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Sexual assault myths: Part 1 | FACTUAL FEMINIST
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- Опубликовано: 20 янв 2015
- We don’t live in a rape culture, but we do inhabit a culture saturated with gender propaganda. Call it a Ms.Information culture. And nowhere is Ms.Information more rampant than in the area of sexual assault. On this week's episode of the Factual Feminist: The two biggest myths about women and sexual violence.
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We don’t live in a rape culture, but we do inhabit a culture saturated with gender propaganda. Call it a Ms.Information culture. And nowhere is Ms.Information more rampant than in the area of sexual assault. Coming up on the next Factual Feminist: The two biggest myths about women and sexual violence.
Myth one: 1 in 5 college women are raped. This claim has been repeated over and over by journalists, activists and political leaders so often it has become the conventional wisdom. As I and many others have said, the figure is wrong, and now there is new data, released just last month, from the U.S. Bureau of Justice Statistics which gives us a much more reliable estimate. The 1-in-5 claim is based on a 2007 internet survey with vaguely worded questions, a low response rate, and a non-representative sample. Other studies with similar findings have used the same faulty methods. But the real number, according to the BJS, is 1 in 53; too many, but a long way from one in five. Does that mean that sexual assault is not a problem on campus? Of course not. Too many college women are victimized, and too often they suffer in silence. But it is not an epidemic and it is not a culture. Exaggeration and hysteria shed no light and produce no solutions, and actually diminish the real problem
Myth two: Women almost never lie about rape-no more than 2 percent of rape charges turn out to be false. Rape crisis activists often urge us to dogmatically “believe women.” They are reacting to a long history where victims were routinely disbelieved or blamed because of their choice of clothing or sexual history. But the answer to bad old practices is not bad new practices. As Cathy Young has noted in an excellent discussion in Slate: “The myth of the lying woman,” has been replaced by “the myth of the woman who never lies.” Why replace one myth with another. Of course women lie. Not because they are women-but because they are human. And human beings lie. Especially about sex. A woman making a false accusation might feel she has a reason to do so-maybe she wants to explain away an embarrassing sexual encounter, or maybe she is disturbed and seeking attention, sympathy, or revenge. Perhaps, even, she may have recently taken one too many feminist theory seminars and came to believe that drunken or regretted sex constitutes felony rape. The claim that only 2 percent of rape accusations are false is unfounded. It seems to have started with Susan Brownmiller’s 1975 feminist manifesto “Against Our Will.” Other statistics for false accusations range from 8 to 43 percent. But these studies have flaws too. The truth is, we have no idea right now what the figure truly is. And it may be unknowable. For one thing, it is hard to define what we mean by a false accusation. Is it a case where the police refuse to pursue a claim because of too little evidence? That does not prove it’s false. On the other hand, it would be wrong to assume that just because someone is found guilty and sent to jail, that means the charge was legitimate. We know that many men have been found guilty of rape, only later to be exonerated. Think of the high school football star Brian Banks who served 5 years in jail before his accuser admitted that she fabricated the accusation. And recently, we have seen dozens of high-profile campus rape cases revealed to be born of false accusations. The bottom line: false accusations are nearly impossible to define, let alone quantify. We can’t know for sure how common they are. But we do know that they happen far too often. So there is no alternative: we need to treat the alleged victim seriously and respectfully, while at the same time being vigilant about protecting the rights of the accused. That’s called due process.
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"The myth of the woman who lies has been replaced by the myth of the woman who never lies."
Holy shit. I couldn't have said it better myself.
Even though I was raped several times and had to deal with trust issues towards men since then, I'm still able to think correctly. Many people have helped me after what happened. Many of them were male and I'm so thankful for every single one of them. Men aren't monsters and our society doesn't accept rape. If even I as a victim am able to see it, how can so many hardcore feminists be blind about it?
Rebbi LiebtKekse Well said. I'm sorry about what happened to you and I hope it doesn't eat at you too much nowadays.
@@LightningSky541 How do you know that she is lying? Just because some women lie about rape doesn't mean all women do. What is wrong with you? Instead of seeing how courageous she is, you call her a liar? You sound like a psychopath to be honest.
Just because you were raped doesnt mean you should have trust issues with all men thats whats wrong with feminists they believe all men are bad due to the lying towards rape and rape culture when women themselves are acting worse then most men
ethan bassett 👏🏼
The problem is it's all to common for a woman to be raped multiple times. Or otherwise sexually assaulted. It's not that every man is a rapist it's that all women live in a world where it is a very real threat. And all women are terrorized by rape even if it doesn't happen to them. Women's movement are constricted for our safety while the people that we most at risk *from* are left unrestricted. Petiole would be appauled if we suggested men alter their actions because we would be punishing the innocent " meanwhile it's fine to punish women by suggesting they don't go certain places at certain times, don't look away from their drinks, don't wear certain clothing, etc... And then also punish them if they don't give men the benefit of the doubt by calling them to suspicious or bitter.
Not all bees sting, but if you get stung by one, let alone several it's common sense to be much more cautious and not go around assuring everybody that you don't hate bees or mistrust all bees, etc. If you've been raped multiple times by men (likely men whom you trusted at one point), it makes sense to be less trusting for your own protection. That's not bitterness it's common sense.
Finally a feminist that i can support. A non biased factual individual
+CPPRODUCTIONS1001 I agree with your first statement but her lack of bias is most likely wrong. Look at the video publisher, a conservative advocacy group.
+Starf Interesting. And that's when you notice the real enemy.
+Starf except she is a democrat and will never vote republican
"I agree with your first statement but her lack of bias is most likely wrong."
Be careful not to commit the genetic fallacy. She used cold hard data to make her point, so it doesn't matter who the publisher is.
CPPRODUCTIONS1001 She is no feminist. She's an equalist
Damn, I love this woman.
Oh my goddess, did you just profess your feelings to her without her permission? Raaaaaaaaaape!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
yeah, stop harassing her!
Amen.
xD :D
somuchfortalent Agreed. She cuts through the bullshit like a hot knife through bullshit.
Here it is folks: What feminism is supposed to be calling out the internet wannabes who scare the rest of us women away from feminism.
Though one example you could have brought up on the false rape part was...I can't remember the names, but one woman accidentally accused the wrong person, and later DNA evidence showed the actual culprit was another guy within the prison.
Question concerning that footbal player's case: how does that woman sleep at night for 5 years knowing that she lied and sent an innocent man to jail? How does she live with herself? Also, is she under prosecution for slander, perjury and procured damage to his life and career?
Simple... she was told by our culture that men are worthless, dumb, sexual predators. Ask any feminist (besides CHS)... look at some of the comments here by feminists. History has been revised to make all men into predators against women. To most women, hurting a man is just about revenge and they feel a sense of justice in it. It's sad... because men's compassion and instincts to protect women are being abused.
Northern Iggy Yeah, I can't shake the feeling that this new wave of feminist slacktivism is not about women at all, but rather about getting back at men in the most socially damaging manner possible.
Ghost81 True, but also not just men... this attitude toward men hurt women, as they start to view only the dark side of men, and live in fear and animosity. My daughter will have to see through the propaganda if she is to hope to find a virtuous partner (should she decide she wants one). Feminism is, really, a special interest lobby group that influences laws to redirect funds towards other feminist 'education' groups. WhiteRibbon.ca is the poster child of feminist propaganda, and their financials show they make a good living educating our boys in schools how they are just rapists in waiting, if they are not 'careful'. That's just one 'awareness' group in an army of hundreds if not thousands globally. Most charities "for women" are about slandering men, and making money off it. It's my hopes that people like CHS and others start to hurt their bottom line.
Northern Iggy What's troubling is that these ignorant bigots have a following during times of ignorance, and their world view is dystopic. Their ideal world is one where men are turned into second class citizens that can be convicted and sent to prison simply for being accused by a woman of committing rape. A bit like in America in the racial segregation times, when a black person accused by a white person was guaranteed to be convicted, regardless of innocence.
These feminists want to achieve the same exact thing, except with men in place of black people.
Easy.
She's a woman.
OK GUYS! IF YOU'RE BORED AF AND WANT READ A MINI NOVEL HERE IT GOES: I was raped when I was 7 or 8, I'm not sure. Anyway, I used to think I was alone, so when I saw those 1 in 5 statistics when I was older, I didn't believe it whatsoever because I never even heard of that many women saying they've been raped. Then I thought...Well, I never said anything for 7 years...I still have not reported it in fact (and I don't plan to, I can't ruin that person's life, no matter what they did to me I just can't bring myself to do it, I would prob lose the case anyway from how much time has passed). As time went on, I met more more girls who had been sexually assaulted/ raped, and I have yet to meet one who has actually reported it. I went on a trip once and was paired with 3 other girls, all from different states. One night we had a deep talk and discovered that we all had been sexually assaulted or raped and none of us reported it or planned to. At first I felt relieved that I wasn't alone, but then the shock set in. If me and a couple random girls all happened to go through the same thing, who else? How many of these go unreported!? I understand you're here to give facts and thats what you provided. I don't agree that people should skew the facts but... They're no entirely false. There's no way to measure how many go unreported but... I think people are missing the point that "feminazis" are trying to make: so many rapes go unnoticed. I don't agree with blaming men and men are evil blah blah blah, but realistically, those who have experienced something so traumatic will be afraid of men. I used to hate men, because I was so scared. The person that raped me was someone I trusted, and after that experience I was traumatized. In my head, every man wanted to do that to me, because I believed that if someone that close to me would do that, than anyone could. As I got older, I met and got to know more guys and realized that I was wrong, and it to this day surprises me when men care about rape victims or put a woman's needs first. I am slowly learning to trust again. I still have some time. I am 18 and still have never had a bf, first kiss, or even held hands. I don't like to be touched and when men stare too long I get a panic attack (I hate that word because it sounds so dramatic but idk how else to explain hyperventilating, fear, and rapid heart rate lol). I have hope though because I know that not all guys are out to get women, and I hope that one day I can 100% trust a man and let him into my life. Just wanted to share to give you insight from a victims perspective.
You are still so young. I hope in time you do heal and move forward. I know its hard to believe but there are good men out there. I don't think you should try to trust "men," so much as maybe you can trust the right man. Stay strong.
I attended the protests surrounding Bill Cosby's performance here in Hamilton, Ontario to see first hand what occurs and if these myths really make it to the front line. I was skeptical, hoping that there'd be at least some call for due process and an investigation. I was so very wrong. The chants, that I still have stuck in my head, were exactly what is described here, calls to "believe the women" often as a response to a single MRA guy who kept yelling "Lynch mob justice is not justice"
Most disturbing was the cry "arrest him! arrest him!" not investigate, not charge, arrest. Accusations = guilt.
It's refreshing to see these myths addressed directly by someone as eloquent as Prof Sommers because the dialogue out there in regards to this type of issue really does need to change.
So your equating a chanting group of protesters with what happens with police and court proceedings. You know, they didn't convict Cosby "on no evidence" and a chanting mob. Nice false equivalency.
Once again, Based Mom packs our lunchboxes with a healthy diet of statistics and factual evidence
Except there isn't any of that here. Show me exactly where she cites the "Real" statistic of false accusation... give you a hint, she doesn't. She takes the smallest % from one study, ignores there are several gov't studies that vary from 5-8%, wrongly attributes the fake stat to a book, and then completely fails to provide any alternative stat- instead going into the many reasons women lie.
This whole thing is classic misdirection and gaslighting rape sympathizers are lapping up.
Fuck_life_and_Everyone_Else _ The point is, there is no more lying in this kind of allegation than in any other. Overwhelmingly survivors report nothing because they default stance is they lied and everything focuses on that. When they talk about any other crime victim they talk about the perpetrator and what he did. When they talk about sexual assault, they talk about what the victim did to deserve it and the perpetrator's career.
2-5% lie. Same as every other crime.
That's the difference.
No, its not "actually a lot bigger." Under-reporting is the problem here, not over reporting. And 3%-5% is the number. The United States is wholeheartedly into destroying lives with little to no evidence. We do it every day in a variety of circumstances to a deafening chorus of "Meh," from the public. Why should THIS be the only exception? Because its affecting our otherwise untouchable classes? I call BS. Anyone who equates "listen and believe" with "ruining the lives of men on an accusation" is just supporting a double standard, not traditional due process.
Strawman. The variables are irrelevant. Either they are or are not lying. The prevalent problem is men getting away with sexual assault, and people trying to defend it by saying unless we allow men unfettered permission to assault women we will "ruin lives." All women wants is the same consideration as the accuser of any other type of crime gets, and to not be stigmatized when they come forward. That's it.
And where did you put those goal posts?
I knew that the 1 on 5 thing was exagerated. If that were true we weren't living in the world we are now. A lot of people, pseudo-feminists claims that judges should make the law of "guilty until proven innocent", something I find really unfair.
In fact, in Spain they have a law that does that same thing with violence agaisnt women accusations, where it doesn't matters if there is no evidence of violence the man would be inprisoned for a couple weeks.
We can trust but we must verify facts.
If women believed 1-in-5 they would not go to university. It's odd how it got so much coverage when it's so obviously false. But the coverage enables them to implement policies like the one you describe, so the statistic survives.
According to those statistics, I should know at least a handful of rape victims, and at least a few rapists. I don't personally know any.
Mr. Emma Wray If that statistic was true, you'd see a woman getting assaulted/raped on a school campus/residence every 5-10 minutes, like the epidemic that it's claimed to be.
Daniel Márquez "guilty until proven innocent"
That's funny because in my country (Mexico) this is how the law works for everyone, and all in the world know how shitty is my country. This is one of the reasons.
I would leave a country that did that.
That dude casually walking backwards at 2:19
BiscuitFever
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I can't unsee that now, lol 😂
Rofl im dead
Mrs. Sommers, I absolutely love your work. Clear, concise, truthful and reasonable. In a world where hurt feelings and pre-conceptions rule, you bring much needed logic and kindness.
Thanks you.
Thanks Gilless429! Grearly appreciated.
Christina Sommers
Christina Sommers Fake.
***** Agreed. The real one already commented before.
It's refreshing to hear such a calm and reasonable delivery of facts.
What really makes me happy is hearing a woman outwardly say, "I love men." I mean it. That just really makes me feel good.
All this feminist activism and villainization of men has been so damn depressing.
Thank you so much. You really have no idea how much this means for me, to have a women come out and try to show other women the truth behind some of these myths. I would have tired more, but I'll be afriad to be labeled a women hater, or a misogynist.
A false accusation hurts everyone. Not only can it mean that someone who did not commit rape ends up in trouble, it can also mean that future legitimate victims will be less likely believed.
Just last week, at the University I go to in Canada, a group of persons, who's project was accepted by the persons responsible of approving such projects at the University, was randomly selecting tables at lunch time in the cafeteria to go talk about the "rape culture" in Universities. They stated exactly the number you talked about; that 1/5 women have been raped. They were also saying that 90% of rapes are not reported. They weren't there to propose any solution; just to "let us think" about this. I have absolutely no idea what they expected this to change. I found their figures extremely high, and I'm glad I was right to doubt 'em.
It's very sad to see that people coming out of university, who should technically be the most educated bunch, spread misinformation this way.
If anyone comes at me with ridiculous numbers, all I can say is "citation needed".
This women needs more subscribers!
Based mom is back?!?!?!?!?
Holy shit!
Welcome back!!
The first one is hilarious, as if parents would send their children somewhere with a 20% chance of being assaulted lol
I wonder if there is a way to hold women's studies classes to the same rigorous scrutiny as STEM field classes do, because it seems like most of those classes are about opinion and anecdotes instead of history or facts.
This is the thing though isn't it. Feminism harms everyone with the exception of people that want to be professional SJs with SJ degrees. "I need feminism because otherwise I wouldn't be able to make a living out of tweeting all day!"
STEM disciplines are inherently different from the social "sciences" because, at this point, human behavior is all but unquantifiable. Many social "sciences" have the veneer of science, and may even use some scientific tools and a similar process, but are definitely not science. I'm not entirely sure if it's possible.
The problem is, many in the social "sciences" treat findings in the fields as if they were hard science, even factual in nature. The other problem is, many of the SS fields have been overrun by advocates and SJWs with agendas, those who start out with preconceived conclusions that they regard as fact, then work to find evidence to support them. Pretty much the opposite of science.
No because then they would not exist
resistnzisfutl Totally agreed. The soft sciences need to be looked at in a unique way. As it is, we say "If men hated women, we would find an disparity in average income." And then they find one, and assume they had the narrative right all along, because it was "proven". It's abysmal proof methodology. You need the full gamut of combinations. It's like saying 1+3 = 4, therefore any number + 1 is even.
However, I've thought about coming up with more precise numerical methods which are able to do more in the way of generating narratives. Let's take violence for example. Currently when we look at gender violence, we see more men hitting women than women hitting men. It's proven! Men hate women in particular!
Under this method, no system can be analyzed without considering all its combinations. In this case:
M-M violence
M-F violence
F-M violence
F-F violence
Arrange these in a matrix, and a bit of linear algebra can generate potential narrative directly.
Here, you find that most violence done by women is against men, and most violence done by men is against other men. In that case, we are violent to men in particular, and censor violence from women. But because there is so little F-F violence, most of the violence women face is at the hands of men, creating the illusion that male violence is about hating women.
Another thing that would be interesting to see, regarding domestic violence, is the violent crimes between roommates. I'd be willing to bet, to some extent, that much of domestic violence has less to do with hating women and more to do with roommates shoved together.
Haven't you heard? Peer review is oppressive...
Do people have links to the actual research. Can't seem to find them.
sovague
Is there one that isn't gender specific? What are the numbers on all rapes regardless of gender? Also is there an updated version of these statistics put out by the FBI?
Its not rape when its a man according to the fbi its sexual assault when a man is “raped”
www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/ccsvsftr.pdf
Section five is where they start breaking down rape stats.
Interestingly, when asked about lifetime sexual assault experiences, ~20% of women did answer affirmatively. So, maybe the 1/5 isn’t so far off, depending on how you phrase the stat. But it is only about 1 in 53 per year based on that year alone.
Nope. She pulled them out of her ass, like all bigots do.
i have so much respect for this woman, her ability to rationalise her way through all the misconseption and false information calmly and affectivly is extremly admirable.
My boyfriend has been falsly accussed. It's terrifying what a single lie can do to someone's life.
It's not just reported rapes that can be false, many seeking attention will claim to have been raped, will be considered to have been raped, with vigilante justice and shunning of the accused, without any official complaint being made.
It only takes a hint of sexual misconduct (whether true or not), for men to be branded as deviant, with many social penalties applied, including career opportunities.
False rape accusations, while unquantifiable, do exist. Revenge by rumour is in the arsenal of women when it comes to sexual matters. Yet so many people refuse to acknowledge how devastating that particular weapon is, it is a power that women have, the abuse of that power should be considered in the same light as actual sexual assault. Women who lie about being sexually assaulted need to be treated as a liar, just as there is a registry for sex offenders (no second chances), liars of this calibre cannot be trusted to be ever telling the truth.
These are not white lies, though you'd think they were judging by some of the gender feminist rhetoric.
Yep...my ex sucked some bloke off on a night out and said he forced her when I found out.
Same girl accused me of headbutting her....I'm 6'4 and a former Royal Marine...she's 5'4 and tiny.
Not a mark on her....yet I got arrested,night in the cells etc.....following day she gets a warning for wasting police time.
No arrest,no night in cell etc....there's no such thing as equality here only female empowernent over men.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but 1:13 it states "1 in 210.5 female students per year which equates to 1 in 52.6 women over a 4 year period" - I think that's a mathematical error. If your chances of getting sick one year is 50% and 50% for the next year. Your chances of getting sick over the two year period is not 100%, it's still 50%. Likewise, if your chances are approximately 1 in 210 for one year. Unless something drastic happens, it's always going to remain approximately 1 in 210 for every year. I could be wrong, but I'm certain that it's not mathematically accurate.
Not sure about the statistics, you might be on to something there, but if you have 50% chance of getting sick year 1 and 50% chance of getting sick year 2, then getting sick either year has a 75% chance.
To demonstrate: Lets have four people (A, B, C and D),
A gets sick first year, but not second year
B is fine first year, but gets sick second year
C gets sick both years
D is healthy and fine both years.
Thats how it would statistically work out, if the chance is 50% each year, meaning 75% of people would be at least sick one of the 2 years.
What you are unto is that 1 in 210.5 is a 0.475% chance for any given college woman to be raped.
That means 99.525% of women attending college would be fine
0.99525^4 = 0.98113 = 98.113% would be fine over a 4 year period, leaving 1.897% raped, or about 1 in 52.7 being raped.
And I rounded off a bit, so what you know, the numbers here was actually right
Good point to the OP
I think it equates to being there for a longer period of time. If you only go for 1 year your chances would be 1 in 210. The more time you spend there the more likely it is that something will happen, makes sense.
It doesn't refer to the chance of getting raped, it refers to the number of people getting raped over 4 years.
However depending on how what samplegroup was used this could be a faulty way to count. This statistic is correct if they studied the same group of students during that period,
If they studied the whole female student body then the calculation would be faulty since the people in the sample group vary from year to year. That would make 1 in 210 best case scenario and 1 in 52 worst case scenario.
Also made a quick search through the document for "52" and couldn't find the statistiscs in there so I am a little dissapointed about this if Sommers counted this herself, could just be my lazy search being faulty though..
The number is correct. I calculated it. With your 50-50 example, just adding each year's probability double counts a big number. With 1/210, it double counts a tiny number, so the correct value--which she uses--is almost the same as just adding.
1 in 53 women raped/sexually assaulted is still upsetting IMO. But 3rd wave feminism has the wrong approach.
_Exactly_... and which draws your attention sooner?
The fact that indisputably mislabeled _propaganda_ is inflating the reported occurrence of _sexual assault_ by 1325%, and thus, inculcating the general population [repeatedly] with the idea that men are 1325% more guilty of a crime than they are, leading to mass incarceration of innocent men?
Or the fact that this crime has occurred since the dawn of man and you can't find a _single_ person in the US who says they wouldn't do _everything_ they could possibly do to stop it?
I understand there's no way to know how many rape accusations are actually false, but surely there's a way to know how many have been proven to be false.
All women who claim to be raped should be given a benefit of a doubt. Her allegations should be taken seriously, but all rape cases need to adhere to the rules of criminal justice: The accusing party has to meet the burden of proof! Period. This is the rule of criminal justice. Rape cannot be an exception to this rule. The victim needs to understand that justice won't be immediate. It will be time consuming. She'll have to tell her story again and again. Most of all, she has to understand life will go on, win or lose.
I believe in this slow justice because of what Cordelia says to her two scheming sisters (who remind me an awful lot of third wave feminism btw) in Shakespeare's play, "King Lear." "I know what you are... Time shall unfold what plighted cunning hides: Who cover faults, at last shame them derides." Or, if you're not into Shakespeare, you can always go by what Judge Judy says, "If you're telling the truth, you don't have to have a good memory."
If there are false accusations being made, slow justice will give time to reveal them, and prevent an innocent person from being thrown in jail. And I personally think that women who make false accusations should be thrown in jail. Again, provided that the accusing party meets the burden of proof showing that the false accusation did happen, and that it wasn't the result of false idenity. But since that's not likely to happen, thanks Regan and Goneril (aka third wave feminism) at least she should be open to civil suite.
I couldn't agree more with this. But I do think it is important to recognize that our brains are wonderful things, that often block out certain parts of our trauma to protect us. So that bad memory might be a coping mechanism. This isn't to say that people should be thrown in jail without anything other than one half-remembered testimony, but it is something to be aware of.
You can always count on Base Mom to get the facts right. Thank you Ms. Sommers. Well worth the wait even if it was late lol.
I have never heard of this lady before, but I hope she will read my post. This lady supports more than Feminism/Women; She supports individual liberty protected by law for everybody, and that is the master key to a civil and prosperous society.
I believe this sharp lady is not a Feminist, but a lover of the philosophies of "Individual Liberty protected by law", (Individualism, not socialism/communism), no matter what the sex or race of the individual, (Individual Liberty protected by law is blind to differences in sex and race, and it was that philosophy that freed the Black slaves in 1863. The most grateful Black families named their own families after the men who started the USA based on Individual liberty, "Washington". "Franklin", "Jefferson"). It was Individualism where the Feminist movement started from, (but this lady sticks to those first proper principles. Good premise, Good integrity). It was individualism that MLK spoke from. It was Individualism that made the USA exceptional, and with the free market in the thinking individuals hands, grew the national economy, raising the standard of living for all, quicker than any nation ever had or ever will again.
I would like to offer an addition to your channel title from "Factual Feminist" to "Factual Feminist, protecting individual liberty".
I just found this vid on "InfoWars", and if you say InfoWars is all bad, this vid would not have been there, (But I believe Alex Jones is a fraud). It was not on Drudge or probably any other media.
Keep up your good work, but understand, it is the best philosophies of Individual Liberty that you are protecting, and you should mention that fact often.
A guy from Michigan.
I know and have seen so many women lie about rape for status. This is the first video, heck even first women to acknowledge this. Mad respect. A real woman.
Christina Hoff Sommers saved feminism.
Susan Brown-Miller's 1968 claim that only 2% of rape accusations is false are unfounded?
Futurama Fry: "Not sure Double Negative, or Irony..."
yeah, its neither....
***** It means that the percentage proven is unfounded, being a hard percentage to get (which goes from 8% to 43%, but still uncertain); not that false rape accusations are unfounded to be called false.
Thank you for this. I only recently learned of your loss last year. I hope you accept my belated condolences.
Dave.
I am a a woman and a progressive and I completely agree with you Christina. I am thrilled to subscribe to your channel and I hope that no one one will be unhappy with the fact that I might not share all of the same political views. Keep on speaking the truth!!!! 🙂💖
Thank you for doing this. I try to expose the Rape Hoax Culture. On my channel I want to give a voice to the men who have been falsely accused of rape, or those who have been wronged on the basis they could commit the rape. Rather than have an obscure number, have an actual representation of those hurt by false claims.
It isn't enough for a sole voice of reason to exist.
In this time of uncertainty we're so sure that villains lurk around every corner that we will create them ourselves if we can't find them.
For while fear may keep us vigilant, it's also fear that tears us apart.
A fear that sadly exists only too often... outside the Twilight Zone.
Thank you for what you are doing here in this video! Your honesty, candor and character are greatly appreciated!
Thank you, Christina! Your videos help me a lot with my Sociology essays!
Now I don't know much about this world ills, but I occurs to me Anita Sarkessian and fellow Feminist Frequency turn off comment boxes because Anita believes comment sections lead to hateful derogatory comments (I can see that, people are often comfortable protected by anonymity...) and non factual information. (Though, she has been a hypocrite and wrong here and there) That everyone must believe her. By disallowing the freedom of discussion, it only promotes blind devotion or a scam.
A diamond in a pool of mud.
I have nothing else to add.
Once again, great video - look forward to seeing the next one.
Something I'd like to see you comment on (if you haven't already): given the amount of misinformation, propaganda and "non-causes" disseminated by many pop feminists (at least the loud ones), which challenges do you think modern feminists should be focussing on in western society?
Thanks!
I wish she pointed out that the false accusation rate for rape is higher than all violent crime combined.
All good points, however some one cannot legally consent while intoxicated that would mean that it would be rape if it was claimed in a court of law.
But which party was raped if both were intoxicated, tastyscavenger? Do we bring charges against both of them?
What if the man was intoxicated and the woman took advantage of the situation, according to the law a whammen cannot rape a man in this instance. Men call it regret and the feminist calls it rape, that's insanity for you.
You should become the next president.
I would vote for Professor Sommers. Fuck that bitch Hilary Clinton.
frozenbinarystudio I'd vote two times!
The word "rape" used to disgust me so much, just the mention of it and I would cringe. Now it's used so casually by modern radical feminists that it's lost it's power. Rape is not a joke, but the word is certainly being taken more with a grain of salt now, because most feminists seem to think that almost anything that THEY don't like is rape. It completely downplays and destroys the actual meaning of the word rape and instead becomes associated with their la la land, "patriarchy", "women are so oppressed" rhetoric. Honestly the only ones oppressing them are themselves.
What are some things that feminists call rape that you don't equate with rape?
Excellent video, its to the point, honest and most of all factual, I can't wait for part 2 :)
Many rapes are never reported such as; Rapes in marriage, during conflicts (wars), and very young women who may feel that it was their fault or don't realize that what happened to them was rape. Statistics do not include these women. I believe that in this world, might makes right no matter what. "Might" either in money, power or physical strength. So you are right about the real statistics being "unknowable". I have a tendency to believe that number of rapes in the world is much higher than we may suspect.
Sonia Guzman pedophiles tend to like boys over girls. I think there are a ton of boys being raped. that is the true rape culture. priests and Satanists raping boys on a regular basis. I wonder why it is so underreported. oh wait, I know why. it is because the government are all doing it.
+Sonia Guzman Actually a recent study suggests rapes/sexual assaults on campus is about 6.1 per 1000 students aged 18-24 using all data available including the data taken from rape clinics and support centres and show a reducing level of rape across the board with an increase of reports in 2001 which iirc was when there was a big campaign to promote seeking police help. For the US.
Sonia Guzman why is it always women? Men and children are raped too
Lets not forget that when you accuse someone of rape there reputation goes down and ruins there lives forever
Omg, I love your series!! Keep going and never stop!
I do agree. I appreciate these videos. You give good information and you state what your sources are. And you do this with an even tone. I love that.
Such a smart, brave woman. Your very much needed and appreciated in times like these. Keep up the good work
FINALLY!!! Someone who is actually interested in solving real gender issues, rather than making up myths about how all men hate women!
If your factual you're not a feminist you're just factual
How do you explain working with Dennis Prager? He has said many time that there is no rape culture, that unwanted kisses or touching is not rape. Dennis said about the same things as Todd Akin about abortion, that some women claim rape to get an abortion.
Hey well done on being a actual feminist, i completely agree people should be equal and your the first feminist video havent viewed the same as racist propaganda, and well done for being a person that is addressing the fact that girls sometimes do like about sexual assualt.
I feel this is quite a topic these days that need sorting out. its made me lose confidence to interact with most girls i encounter leaving me rather isolated and scared to talk to girls i find attractive or even sometimes just want to be friends with, ive had a friend who was accused of rape when he slept with a girl who had cheated one her boyfriend who almost got my friend sent to prison but luckily the room they though people were asleep in one or two were actually awake and played a large part to saving him.
But i feel this topic is also a double edged sword, it also makes the few cases where a woman sexualy assualt's a male "impossible" and would cause people to be scared to even mention if it happened to them. ive seen a video of a girl throwing some guy around a bathroom smashing his head of a wall and kicking him in the balls because he "cant" hit her back or may just be like me completely none violent and to skinny to do so if he really wanted anyway.
so what are your views on female to male sexual assualt?
thank you christina. i am so sick of being treated as a potential threat by default. just on account of my gender
Its so refreshing to see a prominent feminist applying factual statistics over hysteria, though I dread to think how the extremist element will try to shout her down.
Finally a person who can actually make a difference , because she understands how the popular feminist movement is being manipulated in order to create another division in people
"Rape culture" plays on the fact that every non-psychopath in the world is opposed to rape. Which is all well and good. But then it takes the extra step of saying that rape is caused by all these influences in the culture at large - jokes, pornography, plot points in movies and video games. If you accept that assumption (evidence-free, usually), it's only a short leap to conclude that if we don't censor half of the media in the world, then we're basically signalling tacit approval of the (non-existent) rape epidemic. So any time you hear someone talk about 'rape culture' you can be fairly certain that somewhere along the line, censorship and control of arts and culture is feature of their agenda.
Welcome back!
Zerlina Maxwell said we should believe the victims, without the accused having their day in court. Isn't that something? What is wrong with people today?
Love your work Christina. I hope it continues
Given my own experience with sexual harassment, This trivialization of rape is horrible.
I was in the "believe the woman" camp for a long time, but some of what I've been seeing on the internet has changed my mind. My views are still being formed.
What people forget is that the rights of the accused are to protect the innocent not to help the guilty get away with crimes.
rape is a disgusting inhuman act, but punishing it properly, with a hundred percent excessive violence is impossible these days, ever since women found out they could punish a lying boyfriend or similar by accusing them of having performed rape on the accuser. since there is no way to really prove rape, up to including genuine audivisual recording of the act, since many men and women enjoy some violence in their intercourse, and of course such things as roleplay, we're stuck requiring heaping amounts of evidence. what a disgusting world.
A factual female. I don't have the capacity to tolerate unreasonable women. Unreasonable women would sink a ship that they're on just because some man who rejected or scorned them is on the same ship. I don't want anything to do with that kind of animal. Love Mrs. Sommers for the chance to see a _positive_ view of anything that begins with 'femin'.
My issue with "sexual assault" is I have yet to have anyone offer a clearly defined definition of EXACTLY what it is . Until someone figures that out I have to call BS on the whole premise .
THE RIGHT OF A WESTERN FEMALE CRIMINAL TO DESTROY A MAN USING THE POWER OF THE STATE. IT WORKS FOR ME.
They have more repugnant laws like this one, WAWA, divorce laws, custody laws, slavery laws (alimony/child support), ......
Men had overcome the middle ages, fought for human rights, liberal laws and freedom. All these achievements of humanity have been destroyed by feminism in few years.
Normally, American’s can’t be jailed for debt because debtors’ prisons were thought to be a nonsensical and barbaric practice that was outlawed in 1833.
Yet, the failure to pay child routinely lands American fathers in jail. Even if the fathers become unemployed or hospitalized, the judge could deny their petition to have their child support payments reduced.
Feminism has created a dictatorship, destroyed civil rights and due process, equality under the law and presumtion of innocence, like in rape acusations and domestic violence laws, created dozens of new crimes (sexual harassment, offenses to women, DNA testing your own kid in Britain, afirmative consent, etc).
The atrocities of the reversed burden of proof in criminal cases against men, the spanish nazi courts with their offender based laws.
Women who think they are safe because they belong to the right sex are completly wrong,they will put them in prison for being racist if they are white, or for homophobe if they are heterosexuals , and if they are lesbians and black for Islamophobe.
Remember the German Lutheran pastor Martin Niemöller:
First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out-
Because I was not a Socialist.
Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out-
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out-
Because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me-and there was no one left to speak for me.
If rape culture was prevalent as some claim, the mere allegation wouldn't ruin people's lives. Not only is rape not advocated by society, it's universally detested.
I agree with you on the issue. Also wanna welcome you back from the holidays :)
The issue with ‘1 in 5’ id that the language on some studies is not clear, and can lump in everything from rape to catcalling, but show no data for various forms of sexual misconduct (a broad category that could include rude comments through rape). Sexual harassment, improper sexual comments, etc are wrong, but assault is very different. As far as ‘false claims,’ our court system is flawed, and I feel injustice happens frequently, that hurts both victims and falsely accused people... in ANY crime. In the real world, society doesn’t react the same way towards rape victims as it does victims of mugging, arson, a hit and run, armed robbery, etc. Similarly, we don’t treat victims of child abuse, domestic violence, emotional abuse, etc any better. It happens with male victims, too, and it’s because nobody wants to believe that their friend or loved one might be capable of sick shit. It’s totally ok to shy away from accused abusers if you feel at risk, yourself, but if you are not at risk, it’s fine to hear out both sides of the story. You are ignorant, however, if you say ‘I don’t want to hear either side... I’m friends with both of you and I just want you two to patch this up already so I can stop hearing about it.’ That shows a great lack of empathy, and a willingness to live in a bubble where bad shit never happens. It’s also gross to keep supporting someone you believe to be guilty because ‘they’re popular’ or ‘they’re nice to me, but yeah... he assaulted my friend, so I totally get it.’ That’s someone that will just hurt other friends of yours, but the fact that you look good socially, for being friends with them totally makes up for that (sarcasm). All abuse is under-reported, and improperly handled, therefore we cannot accurately estimate how ‘under-reported’ abuse really is. It’s difficult to talk about, and there is such a stigma about false abuse being rampant, that courts can go in with a very biased opinion. To best determine whether or not an accused abuser is a threat, look for red flags of a narcissist, or sociopath. Also take into account whether or not they are known to be violent in general, and hear out their accusers. Look for holes in any story you hear, and for the love of the gods, go to the source, rather than listen to ‘I heard that’ stories. Also consider who has a history of lying. I’ve been assaulted and raped, and I’ve had many friends that have been as well. I’ve also had two friends falsely accused of abuse (by the same woman, and I was there for one of the ‘abuse’ instances she claimed happened... my friend blocked her fist when she tried to throat punch him while on drugs), and my rapist actually accused me of manipulation and emotional abuse. Both instances are the result of very sick, vial people, and false claims are often cover ups of abuse or other toxic behaviors. I’m an advocate for all survivors. I separate this from my stance on feminism, because abuse is a human issue.
If all feminists were like this I wouldn't have a problem being a feminist. This woman has logic, facts and can speak comprehensively.
That last bit you said about false accusation of assault, well that happens in Kuwait quite often, some young women report on men in a mall or in a park or somewhere, report some kind of assault, victimizing themselves with no actual harm done to them.
She gets so much right, and so much wrong at the same time. By definition false is anything not true, made up, or exaggerated to hurt the victim. There's absolutely no justification for it. Legitimate sexual assault isn't you sent mixed signals and labeled it rape later on, for convenience.
This isn't real feminism.
Christina Hoff Sommers my new hero.
As they say in research: true positives, true negatives, false positives, false negative; all juxtaposed with logic and objectivity - thanks.
best part about this is the open admission of "we don't know" rather than claiming at a figure much higher than 2%.
Could be 2, could be 30, could be 0.006 - nail on the head: we just don't know but it happens, so less just do our best to lower whatever number it happens to be
Wait, one study says 6.1 per 1,000 and this one says 1 in 53. Which is it?
Another issue is rape is far too easy to fake. Unless its a child or something showing signs of force; you can just say "I was raped" after making small talk with someone and how will you know its fake? Your right. We need to have due process on both sides.
You present your arguments well, and your points are valid.
I don't want to distract, as this is a very important topic, being explored very eloquently.
But the clip at 2:18 is played in reverse and there's a guy with a food tray walking backwards and I found that hilarious.
I did an internet search, figuring I could find a few notable examples to use in my studies. It came back with such a landslide of cases that I gave up on trying to compile a list! If anyone doubts that this is a growing trend (perhaps epidemic) just type "False Rape Accusation" into a non-Google search engine and see what happens.
What is wrong with this woman??
How dare she scrutinize and objectively analyze multiple sources of credible data to come up with sensible conclusions?!
How dare she!!
Yay! You're back!
Hey college boys. Ever heard this one? "Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned"? Apparently not.
Thank you so much! I can't explain how much it's great to finally see some common sence on the internet, especially after spending a lot of time on Tumblr ^^;
Though I am not a feminist, but I am seriously considering starting a new feminist movement called the "Sommer's Feminism".
Outside of politics, entertainment, sports, and fraternities, almost all men want to be violent against rapists. Part of the motivation is feeling protective toward women. This is sexist. Eliminate sexism, and increase indifference toward rape of women
I am glad that this is brought up and stated on both sides as a third party. We do live in a culture where the women is a maiden of purity like five years old. Especially in media.
there's a nice circularity to a "statistic" like "only 2% of accusations are false". That then feeds into expectations of juries who deliver verdicts accordingly - which feeds back into the stat, and so on. For a crime which often focuses on intent rather than the facts that's a powerful effect. And "rape culture" is self-evidently an oxymoron. In an actual rape culture the term "rape culture" would have no meaning. It would just be culture. It is only because we have an anti-rape culture that "rape culture" has power as an accusation.
I think rather than trying to destroy an non existent rape culture we should be doing more to advance forensic and investigative technologies to truly help victims of rape/defamation due to false claims of rape.
"Call it a Ms.information culture" such a based motherly pun
Thank you for using your intelligence, and not screaming out of emotion.
It would be terribly dangerous if we had as a standard: "Believe the accuser no matter what". This could result in an extreme inflation of false accusations because accusing someone of rape is a good way of destroying a person's life.
Women are not angels because humans are not angels.
Yes I love your work. Just please keep doing it. We need all the rational thought we can get.
A true feminist that supports REAL equality. Not some gender biased people.
I have a question to the 1 in 5 claim. Isnt the study based on mary koss study from 1987? And was not the study repeated in 2000 and 2012?
What are your thoughts about the current situation in Australia? Namely, a woman was sadly raped and killed in a park and a huge amount of women have been claiming that the police advice on how to avoid the situation is victim blaming and that ALL men are at fault or somehow responsible and that we need to teach boys that rape is wrong because we're ignorant of it somehow
It is false rape accusations that single handedly trivialize the heinous crime of rape.