So interesting to see all of the differing opinions and preferences of people! Happy to make top 3 for you, Mike! Looking forward to see how the list changes over the rest of 2024.
I was completely blown away how Armour Detail Supply was able to cut through stuck on bugs on my grille with a presoak then wipe, it left nothing behind, I loved it.
Loveeee DIY rinseless it will always be my first true love . That being said the gloss and cleaning power of Hero is amazing. Also when you stack Hero with Amplify its an absolute game changer.
I am really loving Hero as well! Use a sponge because I can be done in 20 minutes.Always appreciate your videos and your honest testing and reasoning!!
I have hero, RRW, absolute, and diy. RRW has great cleaning, probably better than those other three imo, though the others all clean well. I find that I don’t reach for the absolute very often any more. I think the chunkiness just makes it a little more annoying to work with. DIY I don’t use when it’s hot out because it dries on the surface faster than the others. Not a big deal or anything just needs an extra spray on the surface before drying. DIY is really good for interiors though. Hero has been my go to. It’s got all the good things about absolute (slickness, takes longer to dry on the surface, no water spots, great smell) and none of the downsides (cleans better and isn’t annoying to mix up)
I really love rinseless washing..perfect after work for a quick clean to de-stress without getting all the hoses out... i cannot disagree much with your list besides maybe fenylab v3... thats in my top 3. I go back and forth with sponge vs mitt vs microfiber...
Great video Mike. HERO with a sponge is my favorite! On occasion, I do use DIY, Absolute, Hydra, and ONR. I love DIY for interiors. Ivan and Nick did a video using only DIY rinseless for everything on the interior and I've been using it for interiors since watching. I also exclusively use DIY to clean pads, soak spray sealant towels, drying towels, and launder them. I love Hydra for windows.
I’ve used a lot of them and I agree with hero, what I like the most about it is how easy you can dry the panel after using it. When working in high humidity I notice some of the others struggle with drying up as easily. Keep up the good work.
Another great video Mike. I have all three oddly enough. Absolute was my first then got DIY and it's gone. Hero came along and I like it too. A friend sent me a sample of RRW. They're all so good now the average person really can't tell the difference. I just want it easy to dry and not streak.. Your top three does that. You can't go wrong with any of them.
The sponges have made a big difference in the ease of use for Rinseless washes. I’m a Rinseless fan too. I’ve tested DIY and Hero and they are both very good.
I use RRW, It's cleaning ability is outstanding! Your top 3 is literally personal preference as all 3 are all really good products! Side note: I use Rrw even in my house and I really like how it performs, as well as my interiors. Great video!!
Between you and EC, have gotten me into rinseless washing big time. I use rinseless wash for everything now. Saved so much money and time too. I did a hybrid wash on the weekend with Hero and its just simply a quality product to work with, I like the smell- kind of a bubble gum water melon with a hint of kiwi and a touch of strawberry. It feels nice and lubricating. I'm using a Chenille/ noodle wash sponge and it's super safe and rinses out without the grit guard, no marring whatsoever. The polymer spots are one swipe and there gone. I combined in a hybrid wash system- Bilt Hamber touch-less snow foam, Hero and Bilt Hamber Touch-on for all the gaps and radiator areas then a Gtechiq C2 ceramic topper as its been a couple of months since I last applied. Stunning results. Also, thanks Mike for recommending The Wolf pack and steering me away from the Mink Royal, I've pulled the trigger and opted for the Wolfpack. I'm only using them for a quick rinseless wipe over before the cover goes back on to stop the dirt grinding under the cover. Hero works on all surfaces inside and outside in my use case. I really enjoy using it. Glad I've got a US gallon 💥
Great selection, Mike. I haven't had the chance to try RRW yet, so my personal list has DIY Rinseless and OP Eco Wash tying for 2nd place; Hero is definitely number 1 though. The DIY Legacy Sponge with a bucket of Hero is pretty much unstoppable.
I’ve been making 2024 my year to explore RW properly, I’ve now done two hybrid washes as well (DIY&HERO) and think this is where I’m more happy with it, struggle with a dirty bucket as I’m a firm believer in a proper prewash and this has been my go to. Even after one use I’m pretty sure Hero is the one.
In australia, we have "Bowden's Own Dry Spell". Polymer Surfactants. Cleans almost as good as DIY and slightly more lubricated. However DIY (when Ivan came to sydney) helped me get more comfortable with rinseless washes. ONR for random stuff (Mopping the floor, windshield tank for the wipers, in the steamer etc), and DIY/Bowdens for actual washing cars.
Thanks for posting this much anticipated video! My current go to is McKee's 37 N-914 V2 rinseless wash. It does everything that I could ask for in a rinseless wash (great cleaning, doesn't leave protection, economical, etc.) and leaves my car looking brand new. The only thing that I think can be improved with N-914 is a little more lubricity.
V2 was a good upgrade to V1. Definitely in the top 5 for me. The only thing that kept it from the top 3 is that I started to notice V2 dried out a bit too fast in direct sun.
I'm a sponge guy when it comes to exterior washing, so as a long time user of ONR (and Absolute) the cleaning of the wash media was never a big concern of mine. Yeah the oily stuff built up in the sponge when using ONR (less with Absolute), but it never caused me any issues. Whenever I would use it on wheels or the interior, I just used more towels. I do like DIY a lot, but the scent isn't for me and I'll almost always grab something else when it comes to exterior washes since it just doesn't give that easy glide feeling. I know it is safe for the paint, but I just don't enjoy it as much. It goes great in the pad washer and is awesome on interiors though. Definitely looking forward to the new version, though I think they left the scent unchanged which is a bummer. If its as good as Eddie says and they changed the scent to the same one as Ceramic Gloss...it might be fighting off all the others for the top spot. Smell is a very personal thing, and not all that important...but I really enjoy the scent of Rrw. That plus the cleaning ability puts it right at the top of my list with Hero. Even though I still use sponges, I'm liking how well both Rrw and Hero clean my towels when doing wheels and interiors. I haven't used either one in my pad washer yet, though JTC seems to like using Rrw for that. I just have reservations about introducing any kind of silica-type components into that process. I have not noticed any negative effects from the short-acting "protection" on my daily yet (half of it has been getting washed with Absolute and the other half with either Hero or Rrw), so I'm at least to the point of trusting them and no longer needing to compare with my previous default rinseless (Absolute). My current ranking is as follows: 1. Rrw (hopefully they will come out with a 5L at some point) 2. Hero (though its practically a dead heat with Rrw) 3. Absolute (still my default clay lube and I've never had an issue with cleaning ability) 4. DIY 5. ONR
@@RL-ju9ye I like DIY in the pad washer but everything I've read says snappy clean is better. I've used both and the jury is still out for me. I think it'll depend more on which polishes you are using and which product cleans that polish out of the pad better.
@@YanniObkirk thanks for your input. I’ve only used LC Snappy Boost but I’ve been seeing more content about using DIY rinseless and wasn’t sure if it was true experience or marketing lol
Have to say that RRW is tops for me for the shine it leaves (jetting effect richer color) price per liter and mostly the scent similar scent to Chanel Blu cologne. Also if I add it to my foam soap it helps break away dirt off the paint.
Apartment living so no pressure washer or hose access. 1) DetailKegs 150 psi with Fuzion and ik pro12 e Foamer because it foams. 2) ADG Wipeout, then Absolute, then DIY and lastly Wolfgang Uber Rinseless. I use sponges but the Autofiber double flips are spectacular as well👍
I start with n914 and switched to ONR because it was 8 dollars less expensive and I wanted to try something out. Stuck with ONR because of the price although I felt that n914 wiped off better. I am currently evaluating feynlabs v3 since it seems more economical at the recommended 1:384 dilution (1 ounce per 3 Gallons). It works well on very lightly dirty sedan and mini van that are washed weekly. I have also used feynlabs at 1:128 dilution for a waterless wash and works well.... very economical compared to dedicated waterless.
Touch-less is one of the best things I've tried with Hero. It just ends up being super clean. I've got a bottle of Idrosave, I can imagine how glossy and slick it would look. The next overcast day I get will be a hybrid with Idrosave. Did you find the gloss levels through the roof?
I enjoy DIY too. More so than absolute. ADS has very slick labeling. Interesting times for rinseless. Has of late I've been using a large/thick microfiber wash mitt for the lower panels of my car but if you stay on top of it the sponge is all you need. I have the big gold sponge, its very soft. I still use it for the horizontal panels. The flat/thin microfiber wash pads from auto fiber look like a great wash media too I'm not a fan of noodle mitts.
@@MikeGDetailing Frankly, Mike i'm really not a fan of absolute. It feels "cheap". It looks like slop in a bucket. I have just 2oz-3oz left from my 32oz bottle and it will be my last. After a year+ its seems the smell as changed too - in the bottle. Smells like old and stale paint lol
I love all 3 of these. Hero is amazing. I do love that DIY foams really nice, I use as a pre soak all the time. I use a LOT of product doing that, but thats why I buy the gallon LOL.. RRW, I use a lot too, I like it so much I bought 2 bottles on the Memorial day sale a while back.
Great top 3 I have yet to try RRW. Just the name of the smell alone like you said I probably won’t reach for it. My top 3 at the moment with no protection no order DIY, Eco wash and Hero
I’ve been loving RRW lately. Super good cleaning, slick, no water spots. It’s great for interiors too because of the great cleaning power. I personally really like the smell. It’s kind of a masculine type smell, like a cologne almost. I don’t think you’d be disappointed in it
Thx for the video Mike. Just wondering if you've got an update on the performance of the carpro and other glass coatings you applied a few months back? Cheers
What is the scent of RRW? I love rinseless. Started in 2008 with ONR. Currently using DIY. One of the things i like about DIY is it doesn’t have any sealant in it. I know slickness is the hot thing but I don’t want my wash to leave anything if possible. Always a place for surfactant rinseless I think.
If planning to follow up with a spray wax would it be best to avoid the ones with higher polymer count? My assumption is that they will interfere with the wax bonding to the paint... (unlike products that are more surfactant based) With this in mind is N-914 the go-to for those wanting to follow up with a spray wax (or quick detailer) to apply protection? (*Note: I am aware of waterless/rinseless wash&wax products, but this question is specific to the individual process of cleaning & waxing)
The top 3 or really any rinseless not designed to leave protection will not leave anything substantial to interfere with the bonding of a wax or spray wax.
Personally I only use carpro echo2 for years rinse less and I have to say is really good I don’t know how good is compared to the ones in your video but is doing the work and also is very shiny slick and so versatile
Have always used bucket of towels method. Just bought a Rag Co sponge and am trying it out with DIY and Hero. Have a question for you about water. Do you use regular hose water in buckets with these products? Water here in SoCal is terrible for spotting. Reason I ask is that With bucket of towels I used distilled water in the bucket with my rinseless product and didn’t need to dump out the solution if I didn’t use it all on each wash. Lid on the bucket and it’s still good for the next week. If I’m Dunking a sponge in the bucket, I will dump it out after each wash. Distilled water got super expensive lately, like $3.49 gallon at my grocery store, so I don’t want to dump out the contents of the bucket every wash.
If on a budget, the best deal is using filtered Zero Water. They make a 32 cup model which is great for dispensing a gallon at a time. You can store additional gallons with some water jugs. It makes a huge difference when it comes to water spotting.
@@MikeGDetailing the best would be cleaning ability of Feynlab v3, wipe off of Ech2o, surface tension break of rrw, easy of use and direct sunlight of onr, slickness of properly diluted eco shine from shine supply and we have a winner lol
Great list of products Mike can’t go wrong with any of these. Absolutely love where we’re at in the detailing industry with so many great products and options. Appreciate the content and hope everyone has a great week.
I repurposed a Feynlab Pure Rinseless Wash bottle and swapped the label over to this bottle. You can get one from Detailed Image. My discount code is DetailedImage6191 which will save you 10% off at any time. www.detailedimage.com/wax.php?id=48173&url=detailedimage.com/DI-Accessories-M12/Twin-Neck-Measure-and-Pour-Bottle-P1394/16-oz-S1/
I wonder if Hero would cause towels to become hydrophobic if they were to not be soaked and washed, and should be treated like anything else with Sio2 in the ingredients, although not durable by design.
I wonder how come armor hero is considered the best (and with big difference) in America, but all European or small independent testers find it average.. I have old onr (doesn`t say version) and I don`t think it does much of a job, is the v.5 so much better than the old one? thnx
Hybrid style rinseless washes will clean better than a polymer based rinseless wash due to the hybrid having surfactants. ADS Hero for example is a hybrid and will clean better than ONR. ONR V3 is the best version of ONR. ONR V4 was a step backwards and V5 was a step in the right direction. There are much better rinseless wash options on the market. If you are in Europe take a look at Carbon Collective Evolve.
@@MikeGDetailing Unfortunately, most brands are english and there are hardly any english brands in the rest of Europe. I can find onr v.5 (rarely), Koch chemie Rrw which is my only option (it is 1/3 of the price of any other), Ech2o/ ecowash/ idrosave ( I don`t really count them as rinseless), Absolute PnS (I don`t value PnS). Actually, from tests I`ve seen (Detail projects, Forensic) "polymer" rinseless washes clean equally and these categories are not so diistinctive as thought. They showed that onr and rrw clean better than diy, hero and other known brands
Unfortunately I don’t watch any of their content. When it comes to a rinseless wash, not of them will get the job done. They clean and do it safely. These so called tests are just an opinion and the true test is actually using them. Don’t overthink it or over complicate the wash process. Buy a small bottle of one the piques your interest and try it out. And one last thing. There is no best rinseless. Best is subjective and relative to what each individual thinks is the so called best.
Mike do you think Hero is okay to use for removing polish prior to ceramic coating? Since it does leave something behind I'm concerned it might interfere. I would still hit it with an IPA though.
Anyone know why Armour states to use respiratory protection with Hero rinseless? Its stated on the Armour Hero product page in the guide to use section.
Probably due to the ingredients. Most of the rinseless washes are worse off for your health compared to traditional car soap formulas. After dilution there probably isn't much risk either way but always wear gloves with rinseless.
So if I use this as a waterless wash 64:1, should I or could I use a detail spray right after or wait a certain amount of time. Im afraid that what is left over by Hero will interfere with whatever ceramic spray I choose and cause smearing.
I have only used it once as a waterless wash and there was no need to use anything after it. Wipes off very nice. Hero is not designed to leave durable protection behind. Amplify works perfectly fine with Hero as well.
I have a q for you. Have you ever tried using Product A as the spray, and then Product B to dunk the wash media in? In my head, this is a genius idea, but not sure on the practical application as products may not play nice. Cheers
@@MikeGDetailing pick the slickest and best dirt-releaser product for the wash bucket. Pick the best cleaner for the pump sprayer. See what happens? Or some combo you think would produce results you desire?
Over the winter I experimented with using Ammo Frothe Anti-Salt as a pretreatment and then using any rinseless for the contact wash. Worked great, Ammo Frothe pulled off a ton of dirt. I can see using something like DIY for pretreatment and then following with something else. Might not be that big of a benefit, but shouldn't cause any issues. Give it a try sometime and see how it goes!
Thanks for having us in the list, you can’t go wrong with any of these choices.
Thanks. Looking forward to V2.
Hero is leaps ahead of all the others. You are right. They really knocked it out of the park with that product.
So interesting to see all of the differing opinions and preferences of people! Happy to make top 3 for you, Mike! Looking forward to see how the list changes over the rest of 2024.
Appreciate you Bradley. Looking forward to what else you and DJ bring to the market.
Great analysis. I appreciate the detailed evaluation vs. general statements.
I was completely blown away how Armour Detail Supply was able to cut through stuck on bugs on my grille with a presoak then wipe, it left nothing behind, I loved it.
It’s really good. They did a good job with it.
Loveeee DIY rinseless it will always be my first true love . That being said the gloss and cleaning power of Hero is amazing. Also when you stack Hero with Amplify its an absolute game changer.
I am really loving Hero as well! Use a sponge because I can be done in 20 minutes.Always appreciate your videos and your honest testing and reasoning!!
Thank you.
I have hero, RRW, absolute, and diy. RRW has great cleaning, probably better than those other three imo, though the others all clean well. I find that I don’t reach for the absolute very often any more. I think the chunkiness just makes it a little more annoying to work with. DIY I don’t use when it’s hot out because it dries on the surface faster than the others. Not a big deal or anything just needs an extra spray on the surface before drying. DIY is really good for interiors though. Hero has been my go to. It’s got all the good things about absolute (slickness, takes longer to dry on the surface, no water spots, great smell) and none of the downsides (cleans better and isn’t annoying to mix up)
I really love rinseless washing..perfect after work for a quick clean to de-stress without getting all the hoses out... i cannot disagree much with your list besides maybe fenylab v3... thats in my top 3. I go back and forth with sponge vs mitt vs microfiber...
Thanks. Glad to hear you are enjoying Feynlab V3. They did a good job with it and fixing the issues with V2.
Great video Mike. HERO with a sponge is my favorite! On occasion, I do use DIY, Absolute, Hydra, and ONR. I love DIY for interiors. Ivan and Nick did a video using only DIY rinseless for everything on the interior and I've been using it for interiors since watching. I also exclusively use DIY to clean pads, soak spray sealant towels, drying towels, and launder them. I love Hydra for windows.
I’ve used a lot of them and I agree with hero, what I like the most about it is how easy you can dry the panel after using it. When working in high humidity I notice some of the others struggle with drying up as easily. Keep up the good work.
Thanks. Glad to hear you are enjoying Hero.
Another great video Mike. I have all three oddly enough. Absolute was my first then got DIY and it's gone. Hero came along and I like it too. A friend sent me a sample of RRW. They're all so good now the average person really can't tell the difference. I just want it easy to dry and not streak.. Your top three does that. You can't go wrong with any of them.
Thanks. You are right. We are splitting hairs at this point with how good these rinseless washes have become.
The sponges have made a big difference in the ease of use for Rinseless washes. I’m a Rinseless fan too. I’ve tested DIY and Hero and they are both very good.
I use RRW, It's cleaning ability is outstanding! Your top 3 is literally personal preference as all 3 are all really good products! Side note: I use Rrw even in my house and I really like how it performs, as well as my interiors. Great video!!
Thanks.
Between you and EC, have gotten me into rinseless washing big time. I use rinseless wash for everything now. Saved so much money and time too. I did a hybrid wash on the weekend with Hero and its just simply a quality product to work with, I like the smell- kind of a bubble gum water melon with a hint of kiwi and a touch of strawberry. It feels nice and lubricating.
I'm using a Chenille/ noodle wash sponge and it's super safe and rinses out without the grit guard, no marring whatsoever.
The polymer spots are one swipe and there gone. I combined in a hybrid wash system- Bilt Hamber touch-less snow foam, Hero and Bilt Hamber Touch-on for all the gaps and radiator areas then a Gtechiq C2 ceramic topper as its been a couple of months since I last applied. Stunning results.
Also, thanks Mike for recommending The Wolf pack and steering me away from the Mink Royal, I've pulled the trigger and opted for the Wolfpack. I'm only using them for a quick rinseless wipe over before the cover goes back on to stop the dirt grinding under the cover. Hero works on all surfaces inside and outside in my use case. I really enjoy using it. Glad I've got a US gallon 💥
Glad to hear you have been enjoying the rinseless wash process. The wolf pack will be great for what you need.
@@MikeGDetailing Thanks for the recommendation 😀
Great selection, Mike. I haven't had the chance to try RRW yet, so my personal list has DIY Rinseless and OP Eco Wash tying for 2nd place; Hero is definitely number 1 though. The DIY Legacy Sponge with a bucket of Hero is pretty much unstoppable.
Agree with you on Hero. I’m looking forward to DIY V2.
I’ve been making 2024 my year to explore RW properly, I’ve now done two hybrid washes as well (DIY&HERO) and think this is where I’m more happy with it, struggle with a dirty bucket as I’m a firm believer in a proper prewash and this has been my go to.
Even after one use I’m pretty sure Hero is the one.
In australia, we have "Bowden's Own Dry Spell". Polymer Surfactants. Cleans almost as good as DIY and slightly more lubricated. However DIY (when Ivan came to sydney) helped me get more comfortable with rinseless washes. ONR for random stuff (Mopping the floor, windshield tank for the wipers, in the steamer etc), and DIY/Bowdens for actual washing cars.
So what is the ratio for the windshield?
@Coffeedad I do 256:1.
Thanks for posting this much anticipated video! My current go to is McKee's 37 N-914 V2 rinseless wash. It does everything that I could ask for in a rinseless wash (great cleaning, doesn't leave protection, economical, etc.) and leaves my car looking brand new. The only thing that I think can be improved with N-914 is a little more lubricity.
V2 was a good upgrade to V1. Definitely in the top 5 for me. The only thing that kept it from the top 3 is that I started to notice V2 dried out a bit too fast in direct sun.
Great video! Can’t wait for DIY V2!
I'm a sponge guy when it comes to exterior washing, so as a long time user of ONR (and Absolute) the cleaning of the wash media was never a big concern of mine. Yeah the oily stuff built up in the sponge when using ONR (less with Absolute), but it never caused me any issues. Whenever I would use it on wheels or the interior, I just used more towels.
I do like DIY a lot, but the scent isn't for me and I'll almost always grab something else when it comes to exterior washes since it just doesn't give that easy glide feeling. I know it is safe for the paint, but I just don't enjoy it as much. It goes great in the pad washer and is awesome on interiors though. Definitely looking forward to the new version, though I think they left the scent unchanged which is a bummer. If its as good as Eddie says and they changed the scent to the same one as Ceramic Gloss...it might be fighting off all the others for the top spot.
Smell is a very personal thing, and not all that important...but I really enjoy the scent of Rrw. That plus the cleaning ability puts it right at the top of my list with Hero. Even though I still use sponges, I'm liking how well both Rrw and Hero clean my towels when doing wheels and interiors. I haven't used either one in my pad washer yet, though JTC seems to like using Rrw for that. I just have reservations about introducing any kind of silica-type components into that process. I have not noticed any negative effects from the short-acting "protection" on my daily yet (half of it has been getting washed with Absolute and the other half with either Hero or Rrw), so I'm at least to the point of trusting them and no longer needing to compare with my previous default rinseless (Absolute).
My current ranking is as follows:
1. Rrw (hopefully they will come out with a 5L at some point)
2. Hero (though its practically a dead heat with Rrw)
3. Absolute (still my default clay lube and I've never had an issue with cleaning ability)
4. DIY
5. ONR
@jeffc6832 - is DIY Rinseless better in the pad washer in comparison to using LC Snappy Clean Boost beyond its ability to dilute easier?
@@RL-ju9ye I like DIY in the pad washer but everything I've read says snappy clean is better.
I've used both and the jury is still out for me.
I think it'll depend more on which polishes you are using and which product cleans that polish out of the pad better.
@@YanniObkirk thanks for your input. I’ve only used LC Snappy Boost but I’ve been seeing more content about using DIY rinseless and wasn’t sure if it was true experience or marketing lol
Have to say that RRW is tops for me for the shine it leaves (jetting effect richer color) price per liter and mostly the scent similar scent to Chanel Blu cologne. Also if I add it to my foam soap it helps break away dirt off the paint.
Apartment living so no pressure washer or hose access. 1) DetailKegs 150 psi with Fuzion and ik pro12 e Foamer because it foams. 2) ADG Wipeout, then Absolute, then DIY and lastly Wolfgang Uber Rinseless. I use sponges but the Autofiber double flips are spectacular as well👍
RRW over Hydra ? DIY over Sublime from The Gloss Shop ? I like Hero tho but sublime does the same with gloss and slickness.
I start with n914 and switched to ONR because it was 8 dollars less expensive and I wanted to try something out. Stuck with ONR because of the price although I felt that n914 wiped off better. I am currently evaluating feynlabs v3 since it seems more economical at the recommended 1:384 dilution (1 ounce per 3 Gallons). It works well on very lightly dirty sedan and mini van that are washed weekly. I have also used feynlabs at 1:128 dilution for a waterless wash and works well.... very economical compared to dedicated waterless.
Yes I’m loving Feynlab v3 as well, the smells amazing and cleans amazing
Touchless followed by Idrosave. I use mckees37 v1 as an interior cleaner. Thanks for another great video.
Touch-less is one of the best things I've tried with Hero. It just ends up being super clean. I've got a bottle of Idrosave, I can imagine how glossy and slick it would look. The next overcast day I get will be a hybrid with Idrosave. Did you find the gloss levels through the roof?
I enjoy DIY too. More so than absolute. ADS has very slick labeling. Interesting times for rinseless. Has of late I've been using a large/thick microfiber wash mitt for the lower panels of my car but if you stay on top of it the sponge is all you need. I have the big gold sponge, its very soft. I still use it for the horizontal panels. The flat/thin microfiber wash pads from auto fiber look like a great wash media too I'm not a fan of noodle mitts.
DIY is so good and it’s just on the verge of being at the top. Absolute is still good just not on par for me with these others.
Thank you.
@@MikeGDetailing Frankly, Mike i'm really not a fan of absolute. It feels "cheap". It looks like slop in a bucket. I have just 2oz-3oz left from my 32oz bottle and it will be my last. After a year+ its seems the smell as changed too - in the bottle. Smells like old and stale paint lol
Man I'm really surprised fynlab v3 didn't make the list. It is my favorite by far. I haven't tried hero yet. Thank you for the video.
Feynlab did a good job with V3 but its overall user experience for me was not enough to make it into the top 3.
Same here I been using feynlab for the last two month's its been so go I got a gallon of hero two weeks ago and I didn't even open it yet
Im a sponge gal! Legacy sponge all way! Thanks for ur thoughts and ur list!
Sponge all the way for me as well.
Hero is goated. I use the UBS. love it!
Yes it is.
I love all 3 of these. Hero is amazing. I do love that DIY foams really nice, I use as a pre soak all the time. I use a LOT of product doing that, but thats why I buy the gallon LOL.. RRW, I use a lot too, I like it so much I bought 2 bottles on the Memorial day sale a while back.
That’s awesome.
Great top 3 I have yet to try RRW. Just the name of the smell alone like you said I probably won’t reach for it.
My top 3 at the moment with no protection no order
DIY, Eco wash and Hero
Thanks. Eco Wash is another good one.
I’ve been loving RRW lately. Super good cleaning, slick, no water spots. It’s great for interiors too because of the great cleaning power. I personally really like the smell. It’s kind of a masculine type smell, like a cologne almost. I don’t think you’d be disappointed in it
@@ethanblan435 I will give it a go. Definitely at the moment not on top of my list. But I’ve heard great things about its cleaning power
Thx for the video Mike. Just wondering if you've got an update on the performance of the carpro and other glass coatings you applied a few months back? Cheers
I don’t have an update. It has not rained here at all since February so not much to report on. They all still look good though since no wiper usage.
What is the scent of RRW? I love rinseless. Started in 2008 with ONR. Currently using DIY. One of the things i like about DIY is it doesn’t have any sealant in it. I know slickness is the hot thing but I don’t want my wash to leave anything if possible. Always a place for surfactant rinseless I think.
I don’t know the exact scent but to me it smells like detergent.
DIY is good and I’m sure V2 will be a step above.
I haven't tried my diy detail rinseless wash yet buy hopefully it's a good product for me.
Curious to hear your thoughts.
Great list. Hero and Rrw are my top 2. I guess Im in the minority but I love the scent of RRW and don't really care for the DIY scent.
Thanks Mike G. I guess i need to try Hero
It’s really good.
@@MikeGDetailing I keep hearing that. Ordering a bottle now.
If planning to follow up with a spray wax would it be best to avoid the ones with higher polymer count?
My assumption is that they will interfere with the wax bonding to the paint... (unlike products that are more surfactant based)
With this in mind is N-914 the go-to for those wanting to follow up with a spray wax (or quick detailer) to apply protection?
(*Note: I am aware of waterless/rinseless wash&wax products, but this question is specific to the individual process of cleaning & waxing)
The top 3 or really any rinseless not designed to leave protection will not leave anything substantial to interfere with the bonding of a wax or spray wax.
Personally I only use carpro echo2 for years rinse less and I have to say is really good I don’t know how good is compared to the ones in your video but is doing the work and also is very shiny slick and so versatile
CarPro is a good product to use. As you said leaves a nice overall finish and versatile. So good as a drying aid as well.
Wish we could get hero here in Australia. Currently using diy
DIY is still good. Hope ADS makes its way to Australia sometime soon.
@@MikeGDetailing loving diy
It's en-route along with our whole chemical line to The Detailing Shed. Should land anytime.
Hi Mike, can you comment which of the rinseless wash appear to have the dirt settle more in the bucket?
DIY Detail dominates my life
I like it 👍
Thank you.
Diy is my favourite, hero is nice, but nothing beats DIY . When they release V2 everyone will need to go back to the drawing board
Have always used bucket of towels method. Just bought a Rag Co sponge and am trying it out with DIY and Hero. Have a question for you about water. Do you use regular hose water in buckets with these products? Water here in SoCal is terrible for spotting. Reason I ask is that With bucket of towels I used distilled water in the bucket with my rinseless product and didn’t need to dump out the solution if I didn’t use it all on each wash. Lid on the bucket and it’s still good for the next week. If I’m Dunking a sponge in the bucket, I will dump it out after each wash. Distilled water got super expensive lately, like $3.49 gallon at my grocery store, so I don’t want to dump out the contents of the bucket every wash.
I just use hose water and don’t have an issue with spotting with the water in my area.
If on a budget, the best deal is using filtered Zero Water. They make a 32 cup model which is great for dispensing a gallon at a time. You can store additional gallons with some water jugs. It makes a huge difference when it comes to water spotting.
I don’t understand the hype behind hero, it’s good but the best? Eh I don’t think so but that’s just me. Thanks for the review
What’s your best?
@@MikeGDetailing the best would be cleaning ability of Feynlab v3, wipe off of Ech2o, surface tension break of rrw, easy of use and direct sunlight of onr, slickness of properly diluted eco shine from shine supply and we have a winner lol
@@elevatedshineMan, that’s a disingenuous answer…We are talking about available products and options that exist and you can buy silly boy.
@@DownloaderVideo fair enough. RRW has been really nice. Cleans great, slick, easy wipe off.
@@elevatedshine Now you gave us a real opinion my brother. I will try it for sure.
Thank you!
Great list of products Mike can’t go wrong with any of these. Absolutely love where we’re at in the detailing industry with so many great products and options. Appreciate the content and hope everyone has a great week.
Thank you. I agree with you.
Where can I buy that hero bottle, do they have empty ones you can buy?
I repurposed a Feynlab Pure Rinseless Wash bottle and swapped the label over to this bottle. You can get one from Detailed Image. My discount code is DetailedImage6191 which will save you 10% off at any time.
www.detailedimage.com/wax.php?id=48173&url=detailedimage.com/DI-Accessories-M12/Twin-Neck-Measure-and-Pour-Bottle-P1394/16-oz-S1/
I wonder if Hero would cause towels to become hydrophobic if they were to not be soaked and washed, and should be treated like anything else with Sio2 in the ingredients, although not durable by design.
Won’t happen.
@@armourdetailsupply Thanks for the reply, not that it was a deal breaker, I was just curious. Great to hear right from the source! 🫡
I wonder how come armor hero is considered the best (and with big difference) in America, but all European or small independent testers find it average..
I have old onr (doesn`t say version) and I don`t think it does much of a job, is the v.5 so much better than the old one?
thnx
Hybrid style rinseless washes will clean better than a polymer based rinseless wash due to the hybrid having surfactants. ADS Hero for example is a hybrid and will clean better than ONR. ONR V3 is the best version of ONR. ONR V4 was a step backwards and V5 was a step in the right direction. There are much better rinseless wash options on the market. If you are in Europe take a look at Carbon Collective Evolve.
@@MikeGDetailing Unfortunately, most brands are english and there are hardly any english brands in the rest of Europe. I can find onr v.5 (rarely), Koch chemie Rrw which is my only option (it is 1/3 of the price of any other), Ech2o/ ecowash/ idrosave ( I don`t really count them as rinseless), Absolute PnS (I don`t value PnS).
Actually, from tests I`ve seen (Detail projects, Forensic) "polymer" rinseless washes clean equally and these categories are not so diistinctive as thought. They showed that onr and rrw clean better than diy, hero and other known brands
Unfortunately I don’t watch any of their content. When it comes to a rinseless wash, not of them will get the job done. They clean and do it safely. These so called tests are just an opinion and the true test is actually using them. Don’t overthink it or over complicate the wash process. Buy a small bottle of one the piques your interest and try it out.
And one last thing. There is no best rinseless. Best is subjective and relative to what each individual thinks is the so called best.
Mike do you think Hero is okay to use for removing polish prior to ceramic coating? Since it does leave something behind I'm concerned it might interfere. I would still hit it with an IPA though.
You would need to use a panel prep of some kind to remove anything from the surface prior to applying a coating.
Anyone know why Armour states to use respiratory protection with Hero rinseless? Its stated on the Armour Hero product page in the guide to use section.
Probably due to the ingredients.
Most of the rinseless washes are worse off for your health compared to traditional car soap formulas.
After dilution there probably isn't much risk either way but always wear gloves with rinseless.
Standardized precautions for dealing with any type of chemical. These are stated for every product, as a liability.
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Mother cmx car wash soap if u know u know type deal. So strange that it’s not labeled as waterless
Wash & Coat?
So if I use this as a waterless wash 64:1, should I or could I use a detail spray right after or wait a certain amount of time. Im afraid that what is left over by Hero will interfere with whatever ceramic spray I choose and cause smearing.
I have only used it once as a waterless wash and there was no need to use anything after it. Wipes off very nice. Hero is not designed to leave durable protection behind. Amplify works perfectly fine with Hero as well.
I have a q for you.
Have you ever tried using Product A as the spray, and then Product B to dunk the wash media in?
In my head, this is a genius idea, but not sure on the practical application as products may not play nice.
Cheers
Have not tried that just yet but it sounds like it could be a fun experiment.
@@MikeGDetailing pick the slickest and best dirt-releaser product for the wash bucket. Pick the best cleaner for the pump sprayer. See what happens?
Or some combo you think would produce results you desire?
Over the winter I experimented with using Ammo Frothe Anti-Salt as a pretreatment and then using any rinseless for the contact wash. Worked great, Ammo Frothe pulled off a ton of dirt.
I can see using something like DIY for pretreatment and then following with something else. Might not be that big of a benefit, but shouldn't cause any issues. Give it a try sometime and see how it goes!
Mike gggggg
Mr. EC in the house. Good to hear from you.
@@MikeGDetailing Dope video mike!
I guess Gyeon ECO wash doesn't qualify 🤷♂️
Not for the moment. It’s a wash & coat so it doesn’t fit with these that are strictly cleaners.
@@MikeGDetailing I know it leaves something behind but didn't realize it was categorized under wash and coat.
Let's do this
No particular order for me.
Hero
Absolute
Wipeout
Thank goodness you didn't say Idrosave. Would have had to block the channel.
Lol
Can you use Hero to clean the interior like the other rinseless washes?
Absolutely. I have used Hero as a waterless wash and even to clean the interior glass. Worked great doing both as well as a rinseless.