2019 Mazda CX-9 Unfiltered Buddy Review: Has Mazda Crossed Into the Premium Segment?
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- Опубликовано: 21 июл 2024
- ( www.TFLcar.com ) Mike and Nathan take a ride in the 2019 Mazda CX-9 to see how it does with a real-world 0-60, road noise test, tech test, and ride quality test. At the end, they give it a TFL rating of Buy it, Lease it, Rent it, or Forget it.
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Everyone here is missing an important point. The CX-9 s MADE IN JAPAN. The MDX, Pilot, Highlander, etc...none of them are made there. If you ever visit japan and witness the care and attention their workers apply to their craft, you would understand why this is so important. That to me is a huge selling point of this vehicle.
agree
The more pure the better. Like good Colombian coke. But when it gets to the use it’s not so pure anymore. Same with the cars
Are you kidding me?? I would absolutely buy this for 42 grand. Considering a fully loaded Platinum Limited Highlander is nearly pushing 50k, this is a far better value for the money. It’s more stylish, more sporty and more premium than a Highlander.
What about the Lexus RX 350L?
And has the best transmission and platform.
soiceyboy33 and less reliable! Just like the mid size sedan segment - RUclips comments say they’d get the Mazda over Honda or Toyota, yet sales numbers show no one actually ever buys it and goes that route
@@sweeshu9513 That's because a lot of Toyotas are fleet sales! Think about how much lower their sales would be without selling to rental companies, taxis etc. . Not only that, there are only 2 Mazda dealerships for every 5 Toyota Dealerships. Toyota's dealership network trumps Mazdas
@@soiceyboy33 think about it. why is toyota the favorite choice for fleet sales? reliability and long term use
I'd buy it. I know many people that have Mazdas that range from 2008 to 2015. Not only are they reliable cars. They are built well, easy to maintain, and fun to drive!
I got a 2016 6 GT a few months ago and I do not regret buying it. Absilutly love that car.
I have a 2007 CX-9 I bought used in 2012. I've put over 100k miles on it, no major issues
@@johndbro1 Good to know! May be the next car for the wife!
@@sreilly 2010 mazdaspeed3 with 133k kms. Nothing besides brakes and oil.
You obviously didn't own my old one. That was a turd.
Nathan is usually pretty knowledgeable about cars in general but is way off on his analysis about price. Almost all competitors to the CX-9 top out higher! Including the smaller Sorento they mentioned. The Kia tops out near $48K. Even the smaller GMC Acadia goes over $50K and isn't nearly as nice. Have you guys not ever looked at the competition? MDX is much more expensive when you add similar features.
I own a 2018 CX-9 grand touring and already got 10k miles on it. I absolutely love my mazda and I don't regret buying it at all in fact I test drove all the vehicles in this segment such as highlander, pilot, pathfinder and grand cherokee and I liked this one the most. If you have good bargaining skills, you can get it pretty cheap. I paid $37k for the CX-9 including tax tag and title in the state of georgia.
Rohan Dalwadi
2019 pilot EX-L FWD 6spd Nav/RES was 40700 and I paid $36700 ,1.99% interest rate for 5 years +TTL
I do think Honda Pilot is better in every way
Rey Perez it depends upon your taste. I test drove the 2018 Pilot Elite and honestly it felt like I’m driving a minivan and the interior was built out of cheap plastic and it was just bland and boring. However I agree that pilot has best in class space but it’s just boring. I don’t have a huge family as I never use the third row seats in my mazda but I enjoy to drive it coz it’s feels very sporty and handles way much better than the pilot or any other crossovers in this segment. Also I have thoroughly experienced the driver safety features such as the lane departure and adaptive cruise control on both pilot and cx9. The pilot’s cruise control was very harsh and less accurate compared to the safety tech on mazda. I have had a Nissan maxima which had all those features in it and it still wasn’t as good as mazda’s.
I paid the same for my grand touring in CA. I was cross shopping this with the MDX. I have two relatives with the MDX, so I’ve driven them a great deal. It is a lot faster, but like the Pilot I agree it feels like driving a mini van even with the SH-AWD. What sold me on the CX-9 was the driving position, the handling and the way the cabin wraps around your body. The CX-9 just provides a much better driving experience for me.
I’m driving my 3rd CX-9 and this is by far the best one. I have a 2018 also and got mine for around the same price. I couldn’t be happier🤗
Like they said in the video and in past videos, the Mazda is one of the best handles vehicles in its class! Get what suits you best. The mazda’s Seem great if you want the sportier feel. I have a friend with the pilot and it’s huge on the inside, he loves it. And I have a outlander, I like it. It’s just nice to have videos like this to help you research and point you in the right direction for what’s best for you. 👍🏻
price is right considering how much other suv's in this class are going for!
Looking at this objectively, I'm not understanding what the complaining about the price is coming from. An MDX STARTS where CX-9 comes fully loaded. A Ford Explorer Platinum already pushes $54K MSRP. The CX-9 has it's faults, by I have to call BS on this video.
As a 2018 Mazda3 owner I can say Mazda makes really exceptional vehicles. Especially at that price with that interior and looks. The new Mazda3 is amazing just as the current one. Very excited to see where they go.
A comparably equipped MDX is $55k+ and even the Highlander and Explorer are $50k+. I don't know what vehicles you are comparing it to that you are finding the price high, if anything it is low for the segment. I find the CX-9 comparing better with luxury models like the MDX and even the Q7, and the only area it doesn't compete with those two is in outright available features and drive train options. I agree Kia has come a long way, and value for the price may be appealing, but I don't think you can truly compare the Kia when you consider driving dynamics, design, materials, fit & finish, and content. The Mazda is a huge value. I don't even own one, nor do I need one, but I would be confident telling friends and family to compare this to an Audi or Acura.
My dad's top 3 were the mdx,q7 and cx9 the mdx was cut nd hes deciding between the signature and the q7
I think you guys don't understand Mazda's customer demographic. People who don't want a boring vehicle. The engine note is welcomed. My wife chose this car because she didn't want the Mom cars like highlanders, pilots, mdx's, mini vans, etc. This is a big 4 banger and that low torque exhaust sounds better then the Ford Rangers anemic tone 😄. We traded the MDX for this, and the CX9 to me feels more luxurious. To me all the Acuras I've owned feel like budget luxury. An equally appointed Honda to me is the same except for badges and body lines.
Recently purchased a 2019 CX-9 touring model. This particular trim does not come with a power moonroof( there are four trim levels, Sport, Touring, Grand touring, and Signature trim). Though I was surprised to see on the lot a particular touring model with optional equipment such as Bose 12-speaker audio system, Mazda navigation system, SiriusXM with 3 month trial, LED fog lights, second row window sun shades, front parking sensors, and power moonroof. These options ran $2,390. Original MSRP was $38,700 with the optional equipment mentioned. I bargained down around $2,000 and got what I thought was a great deal on this car! I do not regret buying this car, it's just been fantastic and I believe that 0 to 60 time is even better than what they recorded( Road and Track Magzine test was 6.8 to 7 seconds)The ride is very smooth, it's great over rough surfaces. I'm proud of the Mazda badge, and yes it's built in Japan, (final assembly point Hiroshima Japan). Engine: Japan Transmission: Japan. 90% parts content, Japan. Very satisfied with my purchase.
Great video guys!
The rotary dials grow on you. I have a 17 Mazda 6 grand touring I drive to work..when I get back in my f150 on the weekends I always reach for the dials.
I love my 6 GT everyone wants it.
I can attest to this. Just bought 2019 CX-9 Grand Touring for 43,000 out the door from the SF Bay Area! It's the best car i've ever bought. It has so much tech that you can only find in high end SUVs like the HUD. It displays more information than x5. For this price, you can't beat it. Don't let the 4 cyl fool you, it's fast and more power than you need even at high elevation. By the way the 3rd is very roomy for me and my kids.
We leased a 2019 signature. It’s not perfect but offers a solid value in quality and reliability. We are buying out the lease early.
I didn’t realize MICHAEL was only 14 years old, according to his father Nathan. Lol
The current GMC Acadia also has a 6-speed transmission even though it's three other platform mates have 9-speed transmissions. Would you spend extra MSRP on the CX-9 or the Acadia with the same equipment levels?
I have the smaller baby brother, CX5 GT. I agree with everything you say. Especially the info-tainment.
For 42K this car has very good value! Quality, style, solid and technology on point.
I had 2016 GT and the things I wanted to be in the car: 360 view camera, Android Auto, panoramic sunroof. I'll wait for update when they will add a panoramic sunroof. It has the best third row in terms of comfort at that time.
Best father and son car reviewers on the interwebs!
In this class what do you guys think is the best bang for your buck?
Front looks awesome 🔥
Good job guys!
This Vehicle is priced way below other comparable 7 seaters.
Nice review. For comparison, please do buddy review of Subaru Ascent 😊😊😊
Finally an automaker putting a torque laden engine in a utility vehicle. More companies should take notice.
Hey Nathan look what you made me do!! Oops I can paste the pic of our 2019 WHITE CX9
Did it feel stronger than the v6’s the competition have at a mile above sea level?
I'm not sure what other SUV's in this category "are a lot less"? A comparably equipped Highlander is 45k ( an go as high as 49K) and has no where near the luxury appointments and features of the CX-9. It doesn't even come with LED headlights at any trim level and the CX-9 has them standard on all trims. New Santa Fe is interesting and also the same money with a 2.0 4 cylinder turbo that puts out less torque. It's a nice rig but still not nearly as fun to drive and does not have styling inside or out. Sorrento feels smaller and cheaper. I wouldn't own an Explorer. Your right to compare it to the MDX because for 15k less ( or more) the CX-9 comes damn close as far as luxury appointments, ride comfort, handling and usable power. And it looks better.
Now that Mazda listened to the critics and added the all important Android/Apple set up, cooled seats, LCD dash, heated rear seat's/steering wheel and a 360 camera the vehicle now has everything. Only other item that people complain about is no Pano roof which I don't get. They add a weight and can make a hot car hotter even with the shade cover. There have also been several instances of them exploding. How many times do you really have any sun roof open? Dealers are discounting CX-9's now and you can find 2018 GT's out there for 38k and have them put the Apple/Android in which immediately updates the "dated infotainment" that others complain about. It's a lot of car for the money.
The new Santa Fe looks great, but it's only 2 rows. The soon to be released Palisade will be the new 3 row Hyundai. The Santa Fe XL still remains as a 3 row stop gap, but it's the left over model from 2012.
For me, the difference between the CX-9 and the Sorento was the amount of recalls for each vehicle
Mazda sells a lot of cx 9's here in nyc
Can you guys do similar review on 2019 Buick Enclave Essence?
I Plan On Picking One Of These Up After My MX5ND Miata Gets Paid Off, I Want a 2016 Grand Touring in White Exterior/Tan Leather AWD...
At least you guys are changing the snarfs test up a bit. Surprised Android Auto did not find it actually. Android Auto and Apple CarPlay are usually very good
Great review guys! I’d only rent it.
The CX-9s zero to 60 is around 7.3 seconds! It's 310 lb of torque makes it one of the quicker three-row SUVs on the market. Power down low were you need it getting off the light or entering a Highway.
What color blue is he talking about?
I personally own CX9 Signature 2019 after i waiting for some upgrades since 2016. I liked it but its missing couple of things. 1.Wireless Charging 2.Panoramic roof 3.Entertainment system screen needs an upgrade. 4. Android auto & Apple carplay not fully okay. other than this i say its good with what they offering for 50k Canadian money. If you compare it with MDX, Highlander, Pilot you gotta pay 10k to 15k more for premium high end model.
That was actually a very good honest review. But if there's somebody out there who's a Mazda fan would hear this they would really take this as a buzzkill but it pays to be honest right gentleman? We are all Hyundai in this family and I would like to see a review other than the one that Roman did for the Santa Fe. But more of a buddy review.
I have a 2011 CX-9 its a fantastic vehicle that is totally reliable and fun to drive.
The previous gen makes more use of its interior than the current one. Its interior space have been compared to the CR-V and Sorento. A larger compact SUV and the smallest 3 row mid sized SUV.
I just bought a 2021 CX-9 Grand Touring AWD. The CX-9 definitely could use more power, have a more rearward bias with the AWD system and I personally would like a smaller diameter steering wheel with a faster steering ratio, and the 6AT definitely needs two extra gears and to shift faster.
Mazda really nailed the quality and drive quality of this generation
You don't like the machine grey colour? I'm torn between the machine grey or the snowflake white pearl for the 2019 cx-5.... I would have also considered black if it weren't for the fact that black will show scratches and dings a lot more easily. Any suggestions between the two?
Snowflake looks good !
This car is totally worth the money. Highlander, Pilot, Pathfinder all similar in price. So many people compare to MDX and QX60. Which those start in the low $40k for far less features. Not sure what other SUVs offering more features are a lot less $
The engine cover has 2 cup holders, so, so if you want to keep your coffee hot, you just have to drive with open hood
No gas hood struts?
I take it a lot of people commenting have never set foot in one or driven one. They are priced right
What about is overpriced since it is cheaper than almost every other brand in its segment,and pretty much every review on youtube is that it is a great buy.I think you just personaly hate Mazdas and came to tell everyone that since you have done nothing but leave negative reviews.
One car review out of dozens says that,so that justifies you replying many times that they are junk!I think you have to much time on your hands and this is how you stay relevant.Being a negative Nancy in life lowers your longevity in life so does that mean you"r junk too!Try being positive with your comments or just say nothing at all.And as far as price goes all new cars are overpriced...especially new trucks.
If Motor Trend gave you that very care would you say no because after all it is junk!
Just read the motor trend review you posted,funny how they said the interior was just as nice as 11 months ago,only complaint was the piano black areas had minor scrathes.They also loved the car!
So would you take it if they gave it to you?
Price is affordable if you ask me. The Americans are well over $50k and don’t as nice interiors...
@Norm T - Mmm... that’s not quite what Motor Trend said, actually PRAISING the durability of the leather and most trim(!). They did fault the Piano Black plastic, as it can be easily scratched. Here’s the direct quote: “The leather and other soft surfaces have withstood the abuse that a vehicle takes after driving 27,000 miles in less than a year. The one glaring exception to this observation, though, is the heavily scratched piano black finish on the center console and door armrest.”
As the happy owner of a 2016 CX-9 ‘Signature’, I can attest that the Rosewood trim doesn’t have the same issue (...the wood ‘replaces’ the ‘exposed’ piano black trim on ‘Sig’ models. At nearly 26,000 miles, my leather & rosewood trim still look fresh, and the dash, door panels & armrests are like-new. I commute 20 mi round-trip M-F to work, have taken numerous 200-500 mi road trips (...no kids, tho. Just antiques). Just love this well built, fun to drive suv!
@Norm T - I zoomed-in, and the seats in the M/T article look great... Regardless, the ‘16 CX-9 ‘Signature’ I own and drive daily has been amazing. Caveat: I can only speak to my personal experience and overwhelmingly positive reviews I’ve read of the car as an inhabitant of this dimension. The car may indeed not perform as well in other universes.
@@impsrule60 Just ignore Norm T. He's a Buick salesman. You'll see him troll most video reviews of Japanese vehicles, and all always says they're junk. He especially trolls Lexus/ Toyota reviews.
@Allen Portz which american vehicle in the same class has a nicer interior/exterior or even comes close to quality, i'll wait
Do a buddy review on the SRT Durango
Would be good if you could do some some dump tests on turbo and non turbo at altitude and sea level to prove that hypothesis
Just curious why is 93 octane not available where you are? I don’t think I’ve ever seen a gas station that didn’t have it (east coast).
93 Octane is mostly unobtainable in the west.
Stephen Hendricks really? I had no clue. I figured especially in places like southern California they would have it since there’s a big car scene.
@@eroc718 Has to do where refineries that supply gasoline to various regions are located and their production capacity.
Octane explained by popular mechanics, "Octane is the ability of a fuel to resist knock, and high-compression engines tend to knock more. The obverse of that is that lower-compression engines can run on lower-octane gas. Air is thinner the higher above sea level you go. Less air going into the cylinders means less pressure at top dead center when things go bang. It's a lot like lowering the compression ratio in the engine, reducing the need for high octane. Cars will run just fine on lower-octane fuel when they're well above sea level--and all of those states are. Hopefully, by the time you get back down to denser air, you've burned off most of the low-octane stuff, and can refill the tank with higher-grade fuel." Lots of debate on topic but they are usually pretty accurate and modern cars handle engine knock a lot better and you really only lose power with lower octane, risking damage to vehicle is unlikely.
Don't you just love a father and son review....
You guys should test more minivans. It’s been a while
Look guys. RDX costs more than $46k. And RDX is a much smaller car with less 2nd row leg rooms. Honda Pilot is priced about the same with CX-9 Signature but a lot uglier than CX-9.
How good is the cx9 in the sand ?
This may be a dumb thing, but I use my dash for a lot of stuff to sit there temporarily. The shape of this dash would take that option or feature away from me completely. So for me, that's a deal breaker. Too bad. Otherwise, I'm a big fan of 2.5L 4 bangers. I've had many, from GM, Chrysler, Toyota etc. and they just always seem to work well and be reliable no matter who makes them.
Has anyone leased a 2019 CX9 Grand Touring recently? Looking at 10k miles/year 36 months and a payment around 400-415 first payment/taxes down....possible?
I think there is no Snarf's sandwich shops,you need to film at one.😀
Neat review , now we need a review of all the GM squarebody trucks in the parking lot , is someone in the tfl family a squarebody hoarder ?
GM, heck. Review the blue OBS F250 4x4 parked next to the Lincoln. Old vs new Ike Gauntlet towing test!
No, those are the trucks that are used for plowing purposes there.
Up until yesterday I had a 2011 cx7. Went to test drive the cx9 and was shocked at how little leg room the driver and passenger seats had. Esp since the car is so large. The center console and door storage take up so much room. Notice these 2 look stuffed into the front seats at 5:00
Good value overall to me.
that hulu doll will be an interesting extraction at the hospital after an airbag deploys...
They are crazy for saying CX-9 overpriced. Everyone else in that "class" is more expensive for their top tier model. Not to mention the fact that the CX-9 is almost in a class above.. nicer design and materials than the mainstream competition. The CX-9 in underpriced.
Sorry dude, come to my area (Lawrenceville, GA) with regards to the cost of ownership, you'll see the CX-9 everywhere .
I will get the grand touring and cost $3000 less but basically same feature as the Signature.
really liked this video
How bout y’all do this with a 2018 Ford Explorer Sport or Platinum trim. Then when you get your hands on the 2019 we will have a good base level to judge it.
My dad is acc considering this over the Audi q7
Why is 42 grand so high? Honda, toyota, GM and so forth all start around 30k and top out in some cases to 55k. Even the Kia gets to close to 45k. Just confused on what three row is way cheaper.
Why were Michael's knees so close to the dash? please tell me that seat was pushed way forward otherwise that thing is short on legroom.
Agreed, the whole thing looked tiny...like it really needs to be a two-row, rather than a three-unusable-row-with-tiny-cargo-space crossover.
Because the CX-9's allocation of interior space is among the worst of any vehicle at any price. It has less passenger room in each of the three rows than a KIA Sorento that's 10 inches shorter. Its 71 cubic feet of overall cargo space is less than a Honda CR-V.
@@stephenhendricks103 Wow... that's a big difference!
@@cwescapexlt4x4 And perhaps most surprising is that third row legroom is the same as a Mustang. Ever tried to sit in the backseat of a Mustang?
I've looked but never tried since high school
What's up with all those Squarebody GM's (one is a plow truck)? And who's got the purple Ferd?
Apparently all those Squarebody GMs are plow trucks. Not sure about the Ford, though.
Is that true about the gas in CO? Here in Louisiana every single gas station has 87, 89, 93
93 Octane is very rare in the west. Here in Washington State it's almost unobtainable.
Guys... the reason you cant find 91 octane is because at our elevation, 91 IS 93.
Why always tests acceleration at places 1 mile above sea level
The rear seat in this are only for kids they are really small and if you dont need to extra space you can get the cx5 for way less
Wait until the 7th gen cx-9 interior and exterior like the Mazda3 body and interior and exterior
Wow you have super low octane fuel in the US. Here in Australia 91 is the absolute lowest. There is also 95 and 98 as well as some ethanol blends like E10 94 octane and E85 (unsure of the octane on this one).
So a power tailgate but no hydraulics on the front bonnet.
I own a 2018 signature model which I paid 42,000. I don’t regret it one bit after having for one year. Just talking about the styling, it is very sleek and sporty looking outside and the inside is very premium feeling (signature matches or even exceeds Acura MDX which is10,000 more). I’m sorry but I disagree about the Kia being a rival. This suv drives awesome and handles great with good acceleration, it is also very quiet. We owned a 2010 Cx9 which held up great for 8 years until we bought this. I don’t really get excited about suvs, but this thing is a bargain.
Different strokes for different folks but for a vehicle that's longer than a VW Atlas as well as every other midsize crossover except the GM twins and the Dodge Durango while providing less passenger room and cargo space than the 10" shorter KIA Sorento that, among other things, offers a quieter, smoother, naturally aspirated V6 with more linear power delivery, a much better infotainment system and a panoramic sunroof the CX-9 doesn't look like a bargain to me.
@@stephenhendricks103, definitely different priorities... I read your other post too and have to disagree. CX-9 is way more desirable. I have a Signature and it's fantastic. I sat in both 3rd rows, the CX-9's is much roomier. CX-9 has more space behind 3rd row. CX-9 has a lot more torque which you notice in every day driving. CX-9 has much more luxurious interior. This is all not to mention best in class styling and driving dynamics. Sorry, but Sorento is plain and not much off from minivan looks which is why it has better space efficiency. I'm glad Mazda added 10" to the hood!
@@Josh-179 Wow! Takes some guts to claim the CX-9 third row when it has 29.7" legroom (same as a Mustang back seat) vs the Sorento's 31.7"; 35.8" CX-9 headroom vs Sorento 36.3"; and 40.1" hip room vs the Sorento's 41.4". The third row isn't the only place where passengers are shortchanged in the CX-9. Total passenger volume for the CX-9 is 135.1 cubic ft vs 154.2 for the Sorento. You're correct that the CX-9 has slightly more cargo capacity behind the third row (14.4 vs 11.3) but the total cargo volume of the CX-9 is 71.2 cubic ft vs the the Sorento's 73.0 cubic ft. All figures from Mazda's and KIa's published specs.
As for the additional 10" under the hood, you should try Viagra to scratch the same itch. It's much more economical and more effective.
@@stephenhendricks103, you realize you're building the Sorento up because it has a half inch to inch more in the 3rd row? And if you knew anything about cars, it isn't just about numbers. People notice all the time that actual comfort and feel don't always jive with numbers. I'm telling you I've sat in many of the class's 3rd row while shopping, Highlander and Sorento were the worst. I'm 6'1" and can sit for a while back there. These 3rd rows are for kids anyways so who cares?
And what's up with the stupid Viagra jokes? We're talking about car styling. The CX-9 just looks way better with a long hood vs minivan proportions of competitors. Are we not allowed to be into design now? I could just argue that you're compensating by preferring a V6. Wouldn't that be ridiculous?
@@stephenhendricks103 Sorry but Sorento falls in Soccer Mom category - different strokes for different folks sound about right
The snarfs test is inaccurate,
android auto means it’s using google assistant just like car play uses Siri it’s not actually the cars voice assistant system. That was a fail on his phone and googles part not Mazdas or the car.
I think we have 93 at like every gas station here in detroit.
The price is way better than the American offerings. The explorer is pushing 55k the traverse is too.
I take it any day
Correct me if I'm wrong but don't all crossovers look like the Mazda body style. I think the the Mazda goes way back to 2008. So who is coping who.
It s shame they don’t bring this to the UK, maybe they think the size and brand doesn’t fit the sector in this country
Considering the number of comments about price on this thread it's worth keeping some things in mind. Reviewers have no choice except to quote MSRP's but an MSRP is only a rough guide to the actual price one can expect to pay for many vehicles. A real world price is likely to emerge only in the context of a serious price negotiation where one's skills go a long way to determining the actual out-the-door price from a dealer. But there are other factors, as well.
Manufacturer rebates come and go and often depend upon financing a vehicle through the manufacturer's own credit organization. The MSRP is a government mandated requirement (i.e. the Moroney sticker) and usually represents the highest price one can expect to pay for a vehicle. There are exceptions, of course, for especially popular models but some dealers make it a practice not to add a "market adjustment" sticker to a vehicle regardless of demand. It's always worth telling a salesperson upfront that you have no intention of paying a "second sticker" price upfront even if you cave later in negotiations. The time of the month when one purchases a vehicle may influence price, as well. Manufacturers typically calculate "dealer holdbacks" (rebates and other benefits to dealers based on overall sales volume) based on monthly sales. Purchasing a vehicle near the end of a month (especially a month when sales have been less than usual) can result in a significant savings. Likewise, purchasing a particular vehicle that's been on a lot for an extended period can save money. Dealers pay "carrying charges" on vehicles in their lots and every day a car sits unpurchased costs the dealer real dollars.
In addition to all these factors manufacturers vary in terms of the message they want to send with an MSRP. Some set an artificially low MSRP for a base model meant to draw customers into a showroom. When you arrive you find that such a model is not (and may never have been) on the lot. Or you may find that practically everything but four wheels and an engine have to be added to derive the price for a car most customers would like to have. (Who doesn't want AndroidAuto/Apple CarPlay?) This approach is especially popular among European premium brands.
On the other hand, a manufacturer may want to send a message that their top trim vehicle is a viable competitor in a higher price category. KIA, for example, sets an MSRP of near $48K for a fully loaded top trim (SX-L) Sorento. I purchased that exact vehicle last year for $40K plus tax, title, license. In fact, KIA appears to be sending different messages with the MSRP's of various Sorento trim levels. The base "L" version is meant to suggest it's a bargain among 3 row crossovers, while the MSRP of the SX-L is meant to suggest that it's comparable to an upper trim Highlander or Honda Pilot. In the real world KIA dealers sell relatively few base "L" models and few SX-L trim Sorentos at the MSRP.
In other words, do your homework and don't necessarily be misled by an MSRP. But be prepared to sit down and seriously negotiate before estimating the price you'll pay. And while we're on the subject, don't be misled by a salesperson offering to show you the invoice for a particular vehicle, hoping to convince you that the dealer is making almost nothing at the price they're offering. This is a common tactic (Some would call it a scam) since "dealer holdbacks" make the invoice price nothing much more than a sales tool. Then there's the "fixed price" no negotiation approach. If negotiating a price is something you hate the idea of doing, you may want to try that. But you'll probably pay significantly more than you would from a dealer where negotiation is possible.
5 years later and $42K gets you a compact crossover (a CX-50 tips out at over $43K).
The Brown color hides dirt the best, so you'll save money at the carwashes XD
Cool
Hey guys this is a sporty Wagon/SUV therefore you should expect to get a lot more feedback from the ride. I am getting one for my woman.
Lease it for sure.
Let's put it this way, if Mazda were to make either a twin turbo V6 or V8 variant of their Mazda6 I would trade in my current one and get that one. I love my mazda, and I honestly this whole thing about "having X badge for Y money" is dumb. KIA gets crap from brand snobs about a 50K RWD car (Stinger); except that said 50K Stinger is AMAZING value for your money, looks great, and will smoke the competition in many respects.
I am looking forward to seeing how Mazda's future is going to be like, I know they are having some more partnerships with Toyota; and I would not be against them having closer ties.
When people tend to drive a car they drive it for a decent amount of time. That being said I think your perspective gets skewed from driving so many different cars. For example when you said the 6 speed transmission is dated. When most people drive everyday they don't really pay attention to things like that. Maybe look at things that would actually bug someone everyday about the car. You guys are doing great other than that
I see Mazda slowly taking lead in this segment...people want C/SUV’s, and Mazda offers quality, reliability, styling and driving dynamics plus overall value... for a package that the Toyhonda’s out there do not offer.
I think for the money the highlander xle is a much better buy
42 geez sure makes the case for a 2-3 yr old CPO.
You haven't gone car shopping in a while, huh? How about $53K for an Explorer that has a cheap plastic interior?
yup. the mazda3 was 18k now its 21k
With this cx9 we need a little bit more power than just the new Cx5 2.5 liter turbo! Yes Mazda do everything right with all models but the power train is not seem in the right place yet, so far they did right with the new 2019 Cx5 and Mazda 6
@@normt5463 Top speed (and top end) power is not a major priority for purchasers in this class but if that's a personal priority, the Dodge Durango has power trains that are significantly faster.
Drive one, it's actually pretty quick for the size SUV it is. My brother has the twin turbo explorer and he's only running 1 second faster 0-60 if I remember right.
That's with actual test numbers not the bullshit these guys pull.
Power is sufficient...look at the torque! Best in class, this is coming from an actual owner not keyboard critic.
anybody that has paint scratchin OCD will be bothered like me @ 2:24 😥😥😥
Or could just wait three years buy off lease for nearly half the price
That's what I'm going to do haha
You can do that with 2016 CX-9 now 👍
Or less.
It isn't even close to half the price for a 2016 in Ohio. Top trim still around $35000. I wish it was half price.
For anything outside of the Signature, this is true. I wanted the signature for the few extra bits and I had a hard time finding clean title, good condition Signature's under 36-38k. I got mine out the door for 41k due to Mazda loyalty, Mazda trade in discounts. Totally worth getting new vs. 30k for the few thousand difference in price.
Come on Mazda. For such a vehicle can't you have gas struts to hold up the hood?