"Okay...wow...that's great..." Ha ha! I'd let 'er go for 10K. It's a really neat item, but something you'd realistically never use. Plus, it doesn't even come with the bench! What, I've got to bring my own?
The most firm rule is that something is only worth what someone is willing to pay. That's why you set a reserve price in auctions. Better to not sell than sell too cheaply. Nice as that piece was, it's hard enough to find someone who will pay $10K for such a thing. Harder still to find someone who will pay more.
I remember a guy on AR who brought in an antique pistol, Smith and Wesson I believe. Anyway, the owner goes through the history that it was a limited supply gun made in the mid to late 1800s, and pointed out all the documentation and that the guy he purchased it from had the pistol appraised. He also said he'd spent a couple thousand on the gun against his wife's directive and knowledge. Well, the AR appraiser gets a hold of it and just debunks everything he had. The gun was a modified S&W regular model, antiqued heavily and all the paperwork he had was bogus. He basically told the guy he was fleeced to the max and that the gun was worth $50.00, or some such amount. The appraiser did tell the guy he should have listened to his wife. The guy looked very pale.
US 10 - 15 k , you couldn't make it for that much money and what's more you couldn't buy one just like ( if you could find one ) for that amount either . I would have thought 50k + after all its a beautiful piece of work and around 170 years old .
I have a large bore rifle that is a Winchester competition long bore .50 cal. . It's i.d. plate has the year 1881 engraved not stamped into it. I found it in an old dairy barn back in 1992. The dairy went out of business 1971. I found it while inspecting the property that was being sold by the town in a tax auction. It was behind a wall inside the dairy office. It in very good condition I never have fired it. But in 2014 I brought it to a reputable gunshop in town and he offered me $12000 I turned him down. One day in 2017 he came to my place the old dairy property while I was building my house and asked me if I still had the rifle. He asked me if I wanted to sell it. I asked him how much he said $20000 I immediately said no thanks. Without missing a beat he pulled out $30000 in $100 bills in 3 bank wrapped stacks and told me this was the best he could do. I asked him how much he was going to sell it for. He said that he was going to keep it original condition. I told him to wait a minute and produced the gun. I said is this the gun you want he said yes and I was $30000 dollars richer.
Nice story. I wish we could go back in time and find out how the gun ended up in the old dairy barn in the first place. And who left it there and who thought about it and couldn’t retrieve it etc.
I am surprised they didn't mention how heavy this gun would be nor the box with the combined spare barrels. There is a reason they needed to rest them on a bench.
"Bench target shooting was a very precision form of shooting". Excuse me, I need to nit pick, but bench shooting IS STILL a precision form of shooting. My dad was the gunsmith for the Ohio Village at the Ohio historical Society. He made himself a flintlock, a copy of the Edward Marshall rifle, everything made with period tools and even hand forged his own barrel(s). I have a copy of the signed Peter Gonter, the orginal rifle which dad now owns and we compete at the columbus muzzle loading gun club, so it's not a "was" it is an "is" form of target shooting. Sorry I hate the past tense talk about something that is very much alive.
@@glennvengroff7235just an FYI this was posted during the Obama years . The collector market was depressed then . 10-12K was about right , especially when you throw in the fact , that just like the old car hobby , the guys are dying off .
Come on now, this is an antique firearm not designed for modern ammunition. You just want to make up a reason to hate on California. Unless you committed a crime with it, brandished it, etc., no way it would be seized.
Much of a guns value is in who the maker was, This was built by an prison warden. If it was built and signed by a known maker the value would be higher.
Yeah i give you 2000 for it. It takes up al lot of space and is probable gonne be in store for a while 2100 is my max. Im gonna make some money you know.
Rick: how much are you looking for this? Seller: I was thinking of 10,000 Rick: oooookaaay. That's a lot of money. Chum: 10,000 for an old gun? Rick: let me call a buddy of mine who's an expert on this. Expert: wow, cool. Incredible condition. No problem selling this for 7,000. Seller: i disagree with that. Expert: that's what it made at an auction. Seller: which one? Expert: ahh one of the big auctions... anyway i gotta run. Good luck Rick. Rick: so how much do you want for it now? Seller: I'll go to 9500. Rick. No, there's no money to be made. I've gotta find a place to display it. Made a price label. Co.e into work, pay my employees to try and sell it. I'm taking all the risks here. I'll offer you 4,000 cash. Seller: 7? Rick. 5 Seller 6? Rick. No 5. Seller. Oh okay. Done Rick. You have been. A week later... Gun with price tag of $17,000 in display case.
How about showing us what's in the freakn box. Let's stare at an inanimate object from 5 feet away in one single view w/o showing the delectable accoutrements. These people really sk sometimes, not opening drawers or a look underneath, and nothing irks me more when a string instrument isn't even plucked. Not to mention jolly ol appraiser trying to make it interesting while being dry as toast.
Ha! The dude was clearly hoping his guess of ten-thousand was a modest one, so when the guy was like, "Yep, pretty much," he seemed a little bummed.
Yeah I caught that too. Damm fine gun though. If it were mine I don`t know if I would sell it for that. Maybe on a good day. lol
"Okay...wow...that's great..." Ha ha!
I'd let 'er go for 10K. It's a really neat item, but something you'd realistically never use. Plus, it doesn't even come with the bench! What, I've got to bring my own?
yea indeed haha you are right lol
I came to the comment section just to see if anyone else caught that 👍
The most firm rule is that something is only worth what someone is willing to pay. That's why you set a reserve price in auctions. Better to not sell than sell too cheaply. Nice as that piece was, it's hard enough to find someone who will pay $10K for such a thing. Harder still to find someone who will pay more.
there's more metal in that gun than most modern cars.
I remember a guy on AR who brought in an antique pistol, Smith and Wesson I believe. Anyway, the owner goes through the history that it was a limited supply gun made in the mid to late 1800s, and pointed out all the documentation and that the guy he purchased it from had the pistol appraised. He also said he'd spent a couple thousand on the gun against his wife's directive and knowledge. Well, the AR appraiser gets a hold of it and just debunks everything he had. The gun was a modified S&W regular model, antiqued heavily and all the paperwork he had was bogus. He basically told the guy he was fleeced to the max and that the gun was worth $50.00, or some such amount. The appraiser did tell the guy he should have listened to his wife. The guy looked very pale.
Great story.
I would actually like to see that episode
Something similar happened on Pawn Stars. Guy had a parts gun. He left pissed.
@@btm380 Pawn Stars is all staged and not close to reality
US 10 - 15 k , you couldn't make it for that much money and what's more you couldn't buy one just like ( if you could find one ) for that amount either . I would have thought 50k + after all its a beautiful piece of work and around 170 years old .
was kind of blown away by the $10-$15K price range. i was thinking around $50k as well, i guess they're very common?
@@robroy5729 They're not common. There isn't much of a market for them.
Gorgeous gun.
I have a large bore rifle that is a Winchester competition long bore .50 cal. . It's i.d. plate has the year 1881 engraved not stamped into it. I found it in an old dairy barn back in 1992. The dairy went out of business 1971. I found it while inspecting the property that was being sold by the town in a tax auction. It was behind a wall inside the dairy office. It in very good condition I never have fired it. But in 2014 I brought it to a reputable gunshop in town and he offered me $12000 I turned him down. One day in 2017 he came to my place the old dairy property while I was building my house and asked me if I still had the rifle. He asked me if I wanted to sell it. I asked him how much he said $20000 I immediately said no thanks. Without missing a beat he pulled out $30000 in $100 bills in 3 bank wrapped stacks and told me this was the best he could do. I asked him how much he was going to sell it for. He said that he was going to keep it original condition. I told him to wait a minute and produced the gun. I said is this the gun you want he said yes and I was $30000 dollars richer.
Thanks for sharing. Nice.
Nice story. I wish we could go back in time and find out how the gun ended up in the old dairy barn in the first place. And who left it there and who thought about it and couldn’t retrieve it etc.
I think he was disappointed with the amount lol.
I am surprised they didn't mention how heavy this gun would be nor the box with the combined spare barrels. There is a reason they needed to rest them on a bench.
The disappointment was palpable xD
Nice piece
"Bench target shooting was a very precision form of shooting".
Excuse me, I need to nit pick, but bench shooting IS STILL a precision form of shooting. My dad was the gunsmith for the Ohio Village at the Ohio historical Society. He made himself a flintlock, a copy of the Edward Marshall rifle, everything made with period tools and even hand forged his own barrel(s). I have a copy of the signed Peter Gonter, the orginal rifle which dad now owns and we compete at the columbus muzzle loading gun club, so it's not a "was" it is an "is" form of target shooting.
Sorry I hate the past tense talk about something that is very much alive.
Assault rifle in California for sure.
Real Collectors with all the barrels and it being in such a pristine condition easily go to $25,000 the guy underbid it
Bet the appraiser was doing it in the hope he would be disappointed, sell it for a quick profit, then flip it himself
Just an FYI that was 7 years ago..today i would be suprised if it would go for less than 50k
@@glennvengroff7235just an FYI this was posted during the Obama years . The collector market was depressed then . 10-12K was about right , especially when you throw in the fact , that just like the old car hobby , the guys are dying off .
$75,000-$100,000.. Much like coins it would probably be hard to find another in the same condition.
No. The gun wasn’t built by a “name”. Makes all the difference.
There were numerous 'names ' in the gun making business back then , whose names are only known to dedicated collectors nowadays . @@gonepostal9101
I saw a new over/under gun in a Germany gun shop that looked something like this for $12,000. This antique in that condition should fetch 30k at least
I’ve seen that rifle before. It was owned by Josey Wales.
The outlaw?
Jerry Costello I was hoping at least one person would understand the reference. You certainly did.
"I reckon so"
That has to be a low estimate. I don't collect guns, but even I would want that to display in my office.
Interesting how the scope runs almost into the front bead . Scope looks like a Maxwell or Lyman ? But I could be wrong .
What's with the spherical foresight. ? Looks like it's obstructing the view out the scope ?
The gun has a false muzzle that protects the crown while loading, it's removed before firing.
its an Edwin Wesson Percussion Target Rifle, its in pristine condition, what an amazing piece for collectors
He needs to have Ian aka Gun Jesus review it, it will go up in value 1000%. #ForgottenWeapons
Ironically...San Francisco would probably consider this an "assault sniper rifle", seize it and jail the owner as a terrorist
Come on now, this is an antique firearm not designed for modern ammunition. You just want to make up a reason to hate on California. Unless you committed a crime with it, brandished it, etc., no way it would be seized.
I have two family bench rifles in .31 cal. Dont know who or where to find info about.
It's sounded like he was a little bit not so pressed with the value I think he thought it would be a lot more
he appraised it for the value that he offered the guy right after the camera guy left...
"Wow, that's great(but not really, I was hoping for far more money)."
Then he'll get it around $6-7K after the auction but to Rick pawnshop he'll offer it around $4K.
it is the best he can do
If the gun was made by a famous maker it would have been worth 10x that
Much of a guns value is in who the maker was, This was built by an prison warden. If it was built and signed by a known maker the value would be higher.
He shot the prisoners with that bench gun 😂
Bench shooting is still popular. Now we use rail guns.
BR shooting still is
Platinum?
Imagine if he knocked it on to the floor.
Seems to be the value he put on that was a bit low...
Drill and tap it for mounts and make it a real tack driver. Maybe add a compensator and laser for more accuracy
I want to know what Gun Jesus thinks.
Platnium!
Thought it would be worth more..
Yeah i give you 2000 for it.
It takes up al lot of space and is probable gonne be in store for a while 2100 is my max. Im gonna make some money you know.
Rick: how much are you looking for this?
Seller: I was thinking of 10,000
Rick: oooookaaay. That's a lot of money.
Chum: 10,000 for an old gun?
Rick: let me call a buddy of mine who's an expert on this.
Expert: wow, cool. Incredible condition. No problem selling this for 7,000.
Seller: i disagree with that.
Expert: that's what it made at an auction.
Seller: which one?
Expert: ahh one of the big auctions... anyway i gotta run. Good luck Rick.
Rick: so how much do you want for it now?
Seller: I'll go to 9500.
Rick. No, there's no money to be made. I've gotta find a place to display it. Made a price label. Co.e into work, pay my employees to try and sell it. I'm taking all the risks here.
I'll offer you 4,000 cash.
Seller: 7?
Rick. 5
Seller 6?
Rick. No 5.
Seller. Oh okay. Done
Rick. You have been.
A week later...
Gun with price tag of $17,000 in display case.
The appraiser doesnt have a clue
How about showing us what's in the freakn box.
Let's stare at an inanimate object from 5 feet away in one single view w/o showing the delectable accoutrements.
These people really sk sometimes, not opening drawers or a look underneath, and nothing irks me more when a string instrument isn't even plucked.
Not to mention jolly ol appraiser trying to make it interesting while being dry as toast.
What an absolute disappointment
The show is a canard - one great big fix for consumption by the gullible.