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  • Опубликовано: 7 окт 2024
  • You Love swords, you love the history then why not just own Nihonto, but wait...Replica Katana are much easier to acquire and I can do more with them? Watch on and let's see what's best for you.
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Комментарии • 64

  • @Matthew_Jensen
    @Matthew_Jensen 5 месяцев назад +7

    Good video sir. You make a good point about modern replica blades and anime keeping the katana more relevant in culture today. Ninja movies are not as popular as they were when I was a kid.

    • @JoeSteel1
      @JoeSteel1  5 месяцев назад

      Well much appreciated Sir Matthew, Yes, we had the terrible but so cool ninja flicks to introduce us, today there is Anima which is much better done, thanks for trail blazing this 👊👊

  • @michaelrizzo5523
    @michaelrizzo5523 5 месяцев назад +4

    You make a great point that often gets overlooked: Inexpensive repros make swords and sword arts SO much more affordable, so folks that can't afford to buy a sword that costs as much as a car can get into the arts and collecting. Hell, if I'm considering trying out a new sword art, I'll usually start with the cheapest quality thing I can find to reduce the cost of admission (and it's the reviewers that help point out those options). Then, if I really get into it and learn what I like, I might save up for something higher-quality and/or custom. And, yeah, I'm definitely in that mindset that I wouldn't want to risk using a high-end piece of art or history for training.
    Figure I've been in the arts long enough that I remember the ONLY options you had for kenjutsu or iaido if you couldn't get your hands on a "real" sword was either a bokken or a cheap aluminum iaito. This renaissance in the sword market is truly a dream come true for practitioners, and has definitely spread and preserved the arts. (And it's also taught me that Euro and Chinese swords aren't all garbage.)

    • @JoeSteel1
      @JoeSteel1  5 месяцев назад +1

      Well Done Sir Michael, amazing follow up comment, you know I appreciate you as a life-long blade enthusiast and Practitioner that you are.

  • @gf2390
    @gf2390 5 месяцев назад +3

    I love buying both replicas and Nihonto.
    I love having both new and old Nihonto too

    • @JoeSteel1
      @JoeSteel1  5 месяцев назад +1

      I'm superstitious about taking home an antique Katana, as much I am amazed of the historical importance, I feel I would unleash the souls and victims of that blade into my homestead...🫣😂

  • @choirboyzcutleryoutdoors
    @choirboyzcutleryoutdoors 5 месяцев назад +3

    I want both! I would absolutely love to own a genuine nihonto.. but I also love my beater! I think the replicas have a place a solid place especially when you can pay upwards of 5, 6, 7, 8 thousand dollars. It's hard to call something that cost 8 Grand a replica😂 but such is life.. well done brother I thought you covered the topic completely and thoroughly

    • @JoeSteel1
      @JoeSteel1  5 месяцев назад

      I totally agree! Bucket list items for sure...With knives it's different as ALL knives are kind of replicas of something before, but with companies like off grid, WTG, KHHI and others overseas, it gives most options to own quality and hence keeps the knife tradition going strong, If not, like Nihanto, owning blades would be a luxury at best.

  • @KF1
    @KF1 4 месяца назад +1

    Great video, Joe. That Walter Sorrels masterpiece blade really tells the tale. I think most people think non-nihonto means "cheap crap", but that's the kind of blade you could actually cut with, while still having the top level artistry and dedication, as far as possible outside of Japan.
    For the Longquan forges, we are collectively blessed with how competition has pushed the boundaries of what a modern sword is capable of. Sx105v steel, for instance, is way beyond the price of entry.
    Impressive vid and very well spoken, man. I'm glad you kept the ball rolling following Matt Jensen's discussion vid.

    • @JoeSteel1
      @JoeSteel1  4 месяца назад +1

      Much appreciated Fisher, IN a nostalgic, traditional and Overall Value standpoint, I would adore a true Nihanto, but as the average Joe, with all the options of amazing steels and options in the "replica" market, that's the way to go....and honestly I would take a Sorrells or Clark American blade with super steel, over a Nihanto if money was not an issue, the beauty and craftsmanship is fantastic....thanks for watching

  • @blindowl-bushcraft-survival
    @blindowl-bushcraft-survival 4 месяца назад +1

    hi Joe, great video thanks for all the information

    • @JoeSteel1
      @JoeSteel1  4 месяца назад

      Thanks for watching Dan...good day to you

  • @MichaelR58
    @MichaelR58 5 месяцев назад +1

    Good informational video Joe , thanks for sharing YAH bless brother !

    • @JoeSteel1
      @JoeSteel1  5 месяцев назад +1

      Well much appreciated Sir Michael, wonderful day to you

  • @rustyknifelover4463
    @rustyknifelover4463 5 месяцев назад +1

    Interesting, Thanks

    • @JoeSteel1
      @JoeSteel1  5 месяцев назад +1

      You're welcome

  • @Rob_Fordd
    @Rob_Fordd 5 месяцев назад +1

    It's been great seeing modern sword manufacturers in China really mature in the last 10 years. Quality can be found at any price point now with a little research.

    • @JoeSteel1
      @JoeSteel1  5 месяцев назад +1

      Yes it is, has been a pleasure seeing sword manufacturers stepping it up, and they listen to our critique in order to improve...and that's excellent...good day in swordcraft world

  • @davidneal6920
    @davidneal6920 5 месяцев назад +1

    I recall seeing an Aikido practitioner go for his 2nd Dan Black Belt and he did a few moves with a Katana. Was poetry in motion. 🇺🇸 🇳🇿 🇯🇵

    • @JoeSteel1
      @JoeSteel1  4 месяца назад

      Excellent 👊 👊, thanks for watching David

  • @devine1rno
    @devine1rno 5 месяцев назад +2

    A genuine Nihinto is my bucket list event! Taking time to chose the maker, traveling to Japan, touring historic area's and being there to recieve it from the builder personally 🙏 Training and saving in the meantime so the wielder is worthy of the blade. Lol
    As far as training goes I am perfectly happy training with replicas. Loving Dragon Kings "Modern Katana "
    Thanks for recommending 👍

    • @JoeSteel1
      @JoeSteel1  5 месяцев назад +1

      Amazing plan and aspirations my friend, I'm with you on all of it...bucket list prime item positively

  • @EloyBushida
    @EloyBushida 4 месяца назад +2

    I own probably $20,000 worth of Katana, if I was restricted to only buying Nihonto I would only have 1-3 swords for that same total cost rather than the 30ish I currently have. That alone keeps me from buying Nihonto. As for antiques, no I personally would not want to own one, I do not want the responsibility of owning something like that which I feel should remain in Japan or in a museum elsewhere.
    The fact I have been able to collect so many different examples of these wonderful swords over the years is a huge positive in my mind.

    • @JoeSteel1
      @JoeSteel1  4 месяца назад +1

      💯the replica market has come a long way, just in 3 years I've seen a major bump up in quality and competitive offerings around the table...have to feel it has been from the samples they have shared and the critique they have accepted

  • @toesone
    @toesone 4 месяца назад

    Great video 🔥🔥🔥

    • @JoeSteel1
      @JoeSteel1  4 месяца назад

      Glad you enjoyed👍👍👍👊👊👊👊🙏🙏👍

  • @apex_alchemy_knives
    @apex_alchemy_knives 5 месяцев назад

    Great video dude. 😎💯

    • @JoeSteel1
      @JoeSteel1  5 месяцев назад +1

      Brotha Billy, much appreciated, my friend 👊👊👊👊

  • @Katana-Karl
    @Katana-Karl 4 месяца назад +2

    You know i love my quality reproduction katana. I wouldn't mind having a Nihonto it being an antique or made by a modern smith for sure. I wouldn't cut with it tho

    • @JoeSteel1
      @JoeSteel1  4 месяца назад +1

      All agreed, Even if the money comes easy and big, how could you bring yourself to cut with True Nihonto

  • @jjw-hv4zz
    @jjw-hv4zz 5 месяцев назад +1

    Great video. Just curious Joe, with all the vendors/companies out there which company would you recommend for customized katana under $1,000?

    • @JoeSteel1
      @JoeSteel1  5 месяцев назад +1

      Soooo many options I can't talk of them all....Skyjiro are always a great recommendation from me...custom? you mean picking the parts to put the sword together,
      Hanbon Forge
      Jkoo swords
      I'm working with a new company Swordis.com
      and definitely try Rvakatana.com speak to John or Scott tell them Joe Steel send you...they have a great selection and are super helpful in Virginia

  • @T-DsGaming
    @T-DsGaming 4 месяца назад

    I completely agree with what you have said here. If it wasn't for replica katana I wouldn't be able to own a katana and enjoy them as I do. I would love to have a true Japanese made katana for my collection but I just can't drop that kinda cash on one. I'm glad things are keeping the traditions and the desire to own katana is as strong as it is today. I'm glad the replica market is as good as it is. It gives a lot more people the chance to own a katana an use a katana than if we were only able to buy a Nihonto. Respect for all the people out there making them and reviewing them so others can get one of their own and enjoy them.

    • @JoeSteel1
      @JoeSteel1  4 месяца назад +1

      Thank you for the wonderful comment, and it has been a pleasure and a joy to review & show to viewers the beauty and power of these historical items

  • @bennyhonda6056
    @bennyhonda6056 5 месяцев назад +1

    Thank you for a very well thought out presentation. The value of a sword is judged by the owner. If someone loves their sword, then it’s all good y’all. Except wall hangers. It’s all fine and dandy until your friends find the rat tail tang.

    • @JoeSteel1
      @JoeSteel1  5 месяцев назад +1

      Hahahah good point, you gotta Love what your fortunate to have

    • @JoeSteel1
      @JoeSteel1  5 месяцев назад +1

      Oh and thanks for your sub & Support for 3 months now

    • @bennyhonda6056
      @bennyhonda6056 5 месяцев назад +1

      Keep up the great content!

    • @greggpennington966
      @greggpennington966 5 месяцев назад

      Remember to do your homework
      ! Thoroughly !

  • @BDoNTheMagician
    @BDoNTheMagician 5 месяцев назад +1

    Please review cloudhammer s5 katana if possible

    • @JoeSteel1
      @JoeSteel1  5 месяцев назад +1

      Actually I believe that exact item is currently in the works

    • @BDoNTheMagician
      @BDoNTheMagician 5 месяцев назад

      @@JoeSteel1 awesome bro thank you

  • @paulalex1597
    @paulalex1597 5 месяцев назад +1

    Great video joe do you think the quenching method is important traditional nihonto would be quenched in water/brine its very unforgiving but makes the hamon pop with activity ashi nioi and all the rest of it .are modern non nihonto quenched in oil for me thats a no no .but i will say if you love it can afford it buy it it doesn't matter what anyone else thinks.

    • @JoeSteel1
      @JoeSteel1  5 месяцев назад +1

      Oil quenching is generally preferred over water quenching for making katanas because it produces a more desirable outcome: While slower than water quenching, oil cools metals more evenly and quickly, reducing the risk of cracking and distortion. Oil quenching also produces a more uniform product with moderate hardness and less stress.
      on the other hand...Water quenching is faster and cheaper than oil quenching, but it can produce a brittle end product. The rapid temperature change in water quenching can also more easily produce a brittle blade...but in the end it as all in the expertise of the smith...i've seen th Nepal people use water and their blades have been strong for the most part

    • @JoeSteel1
      @JoeSteel1  5 месяцев назад +1

      Oh and Paul thanks thanks for your Sub & support for over 2 years now..

    • @paulalex1597
      @paulalex1597 5 месяцев назад +1

      Thanks Joe I've ruined 4 blades that I've made in the last year at the quenching stage in water hiss ding they go .the reason I keep trying is the guys on the nmb website say the beauty and activity of a water quenched blades is far superior to oil quenched these guys can look at a blade and tell how it was quenched.i don't cut with my Japanese swords there just for admiring the beauty.i got some parks oil for quenching delivered the other day I think I need to learn how to walk before I run if you know what I mean.i love your channel brother the pleasure is mine

  • @IR.L971
    @IR.L971 3 месяца назад +1

    I hate that the term "replica" for a non Japanese sword. I think that takes away from time and effort behind a Chinese or non Japanese sword. A beautiful and well made sword is just that, no matter the origin or steel type. Great video sir!!

    • @JoeSteel1
      @JoeSteel1  3 месяца назад +1

      Very well said, and thanks for sharing, the term is more for the respect and considerations of its origin and historical significance

  • @greggpennington966
    @greggpennington966 5 месяцев назад

    I live in central Texas. There are no dealers that carry such items locally. I would have to drive to Austin Texas to be able to buy so much as a " mall sword". Nihonto swords don't really exist around this region of Texas. You're fairly well stuck with on line order warehouses as a start. The reliability of the items they sell could easily be open to question.

    • @JoeSteel1
      @JoeSteel1  5 месяцев назад

      Well if you want a real Nihonto, it is and ordeal to get one and get it shipped, that is why the modern Katana are so important to all those interested in sword craft and they are very easy to get online

  • @notanotherswordreviewchann4901
    @notanotherswordreviewchann4901 5 месяцев назад +1

    Real nihonto are too small most of the time. I like replicas with supersteels more. Monotempered. I have all types. I've settled on that

    • @JoeSteel1
      @JoeSteel1  5 месяцев назад

      Real Nihanto traditionally are consistent of blades in the 26 to 27" size as Japanese men were not very tall...the larger blade size is a modern rendition...but I am certain you can specify the blade size for a new one with all the cost involved, they are made to order for the most part

  • @melissastanton84
    @melissastanton84 5 месяцев назад +2

    I just can't understand how a Nihonto is worth the price. Any artist is a master of his craft. Can you shelter your family in a Nihonto? Can't drive it to work either.

    • @JoeSteel1
      @JoeSteel1  5 месяцев назад +1

      It's the origin of its species, it is now considered Art, they are the swords that all other "replica" are compared to in terms of how we define a quality sword, and you better believe your gonna pay for a genuine piece of History....it is for a certain class of collector, but honestly they do spend up to 1 year to create a full nihonto...and the antiques are just buying into History especially when the smith is known as master of the time....

    • @michaelrs8010
      @michaelrs8010 5 месяцев назад

      It's whatever people will pay for that thing whatever that thing is. Last year somebody paid 2 million for a 1918 24 cents US postage stamp with a airplane accidentally printed upside down on it. And it's definitely not large enough to shelter yourself under much less ones whole family. LOL

    • @JoeSteel1
      @JoeSteel1  5 месяцев назад

      Same goes with anything, even Real Estate abide by those principles, but the question us are they worth the cost??? For those that can appreciate the work involved, the expertise needed and the significance of them then YES....but then again you are only able to appreciate something if you got the money to back it up🤪

    • @slicerpaper
      @slicerpaper 5 месяцев назад +1

      Antiques or Shinsakuto, as Shinsakuto is kinda worth buying since Japanese swordsmiths are seemingly running out of customers. This isn’t to say other smiths are bad just that the smiths is having trouble with business for some Japanese Smiths at least.

    • @JoeSteel1
      @JoeSteel1  5 месяцев назад

      If they were able lower their fees, and maybe cut corners is not so important ways, I think people would be overjoyed to buy from Japan.

  • @charlesard8639
    @charlesard8639 5 месяцев назад

    At this point they can make good swords in any country. Some of my best knives are from China, USA , Italy. Ex ex. I got a lot from this thanks man. I am just starting to get into swords. Forgive me.

    • @JoeSteel1
      @JoeSteel1  5 месяцев назад

      Thanks for sharing...well not necessarily EVERY country...😂 but yes quality is now globally wide spread and that is good for all wanting to enter the craft...thanks for watching...no apologies needed