5 Vegan Foods for Strong Bones | Dr. Neal Barnard Live Q&A
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- Опубликовано: 28 сен 2024
- Being vegan doesn’t mean having weak bones! Here is what anyone can eat on a plant-based diet to build bones that are rock solid!
Dr. Neal Barnard has his top five choices when he joins “The Weight Loss Champion” Chuck Carroll on The Exam Room LIVE.
Other topics
- Who should take a calcium supplement?
- Where’s your calcium really coming from?
- How important is vitamin D and why do you need it?
- How exercise can help to make bones stronger
- And more!
This episode of The Exam Room™ Podcast is sponsored by The Gregory J. Reiter Memorial Fund, which supports organizations like the Physicians Committee that carry on Greg’s passion and love for animals through rescue efforts, veganism, and wildlife conservation.
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6 years ago I was mostly vegetarian-no meat but some fish, occasional eggs, and some dairy (mainly cheese & butter). Was diagnosed with osteopenia in my hip and osteoporosis in my lower spine. Before starting prescription drugs, did some research and instead got off the dairy & went 💯 plant based. 2 years later, density scan showed the osteoporosis in my spine had improved to osteopenia, and the 'penia in my hip had improved density. I love telling this story to all the plant based naysayers!
What a wonderful story! Congratulations on healing yourself!!
DO YOU ATTRIBUTE IT TO NO DAIRY & NO FISH?, OR TO ADDING THE FOODS RECOMMENDED FOR BONE HEALTH?🤔 THNX FOR SHARING YOUR STORY.🌺✌🏾💚🌺
Ahhh..The versatility of beans. Told a friend on the phone once I had to go eat dinner. Out of curiosity he asked what I was having. When I told him beans and rice he asked what kind of meat. He couldn’t believe it was JUST beans and rice lol It’s always been a favorite of mine! I’ll eat beans and rice for breakfast, then rice and beans for lunch and finally for dinner I’ll mix’em together lol
@@Thejoeordinary1When you become accustomed to a vegan diet you LOVE beans! Black beans are so hardy and tasteful when you know how to cook them. I'd rather have them than a gourmet meal at a fancy restaurant!
@@annemccarron2281 👍
Dr. Barnard is one of my whole food plant based heros. His books and research helped me lose 175 lbs. Three years plant based and never going back. God Bless him. ❤
CONGRATULATIONS!
Angela Hill ; dr Barnard save my life ; with whole food bassed diet
175 pounds Wow what an amazing goal. congratulations to your success. I only weigh 110 pounds. I'm scared of the wind blowing me to Kansas. keep up the Great Work Angela Hill I'm So Happy for You😃
Became a WPB vegan 7 years ago and now I’m 76 and fallen down (tripping over objects) and have not broken any bones and within a day after the fall all the pain disappears. I can’t believe that after all the studies people are following a carnivore diet.
Thank you for all the information 😊
honestly there is just something about the combo of Chuck + Dr. Barnard that is just so positive and inspiring! I am always so happy about choosing this lifestyle every time I listen!
I agree!!!
I have been Vegan for 9 years now. My main driver was animal welfare but at 59 years old, I am also concerned about my health.
Dr. Barnard has been God sent and true inspiration for me.
I watch Mission Critical every Friday and the impact that PCRM has had on updating laws, regulations and practices to leave animals off our plates and medical research is astounding!
Thank you, Dr. Barnard, for not only caring about human health but also animal welfare. You are a hero!!!
Hummus an mashed avo on toast is my favorite meal! Never get tired of it, have it at least once a day.😂
Try adding a slice or two of ripe tomato and some ripe (purple) olives; delicious. Personally, replacing the toast with rye crispbread digests a lot better too. That combo is a classic favorite of mine, especially with some tofu too: crispbread, ripe avocado base, add some slices of tofu, a little spread of hummus, slap on some slices of ripe tomato and top it off with some ripe olives, tiny sprinkle of salt and pepper to taste.
@@outisnemo8443 Sounds yummy, I'd just swap the salt for some rosemary instead.
@@outisnemo8443 HOw about this? Rice cake, hummus, avocado, saurkraut (instead of egg, for k2), tomato, and some basil, and cracked black pepper and broccoli sprouts (to avoid breast cancer) on top? Side of mushrooms, olives, peas, cucumber, and red bell pepper with some caper berries and dill and you're ready for the day. I thought olives would be better on the side. I can't have rye due to gluten - it makes me unwell.
1 -4 broccoli, kale, collards, brussels sprouts - calcium absorption really high
spinach + swiss chard - low absorption - add squirt of vit c/lemon juice to make calcium and iron more absorbable
5. Beans - pressure cook them to remove lectins, black beans Pinto, soybeans navy beans black eyed peas, garbanzo , hummus
How long do you pressure cook them?
@@KMarkus00 usual cooking time to make it edible
I just soak the beans but it's more about reducing gas from a high bean intake.
You don't have to worry about lectins.
Thank you, Chuck and Dr. Barnard another awesome Q&A. Keep smashing it with the vegan truth, we're here for it!
Hi Chuck! Just wanted to say I wish I was in LA with you guys. Dr Barnard is my hero, he inspired me to properly try the plant based diet out, never looked back. Loved his TED talk, too. Thanks so much for all your hard work - helping people to get healthy.
The key to strong bones is weight training
IN THE CARIBBEAN WE EAT A LOT OF BEANS- RICE AND BEANS ARE A STAPLE, AND THAT INCLUDES GARBANZOS- EITHER STEWED OR COOKED IN THE RICE. GARBANZOS ARE MY FAVE BEANS.🌺✌🏽💚🌺
Thank you Gregory Reiter Fund, Dr Neal & Chuck
Thank you Dr. Bernard and Chuck. You true are two true blessings to the world
Genesis 1:29-30: Then God said, “Behold, I have given you every plant yielding seed that is on the surface of all the earth, and every tree which has fruit yielding seed; it shall be food for you;"
Yes!! Amen!
I very often eat hummus, Ezekiel bread slice; and cherry tomatoes. Very filling. Stays with one for several hours.
You are absolutely right about how a calcium supplement can get into your kidneys. Years ago a nutritionist had me taking calcium for my blood pressure and I wound up with a very bad kidney stone! And my doctor took me off the calcium immediately and I never had a problem afterwards
Try the Moringa plant/ tree..otherwise called the Drumstick tree, or the, Miracle Tree..it is easy to gow, literally saves lives...it's leaves and aspargus like bean pods are rich in calcium, etc
Greens are the best option - because the infrared they emit due to the green color inside the digestive tract can stimulate bone growth from within!
Years ago, a test showed my arms have equal strength.
I groom dogs and practice Tai Chi bilateral training.
Thank you, Dr Barnard and the other wonderful Doctors for teaching Rockford, IL, to eat healthy. I have all your books.
Nothing about sea vegetables? Iziki, kombu, dulse, wakame, arame: lots of minerals, vitamins, oligo elements (correct?) and enzymes.
Confusion re a plant diet & weak bones: A lighter body steps lands lighter, thus stimulating less bone. Probably a non-issue, but resistance training keeps bones strong.
Yes, you must reach a certain mechanical intensity to trigger bone growth, and heavy weight training does this, as does jumping on one leg.
I just love listen to these conversations - and dr Barnard is so clear, informative and very inspiring. Even if I already know most of it - I love to listen - 🙏🌷❤️
Wow, just heard dr. Bernard carry an interview in French. Excellent pronunciation. I noticed also his good Spanish accent when he said “ pico de gallo” . So he’s not only a great person, a doctor but also quite the linguist. 🎉🎉
Beautiful lead-in question to how do bones actually get stronger/denser, Chuck! And what a fantastic answer from Dr. B :D
The #1 vegan food for strong bones is exercise!
consume exercise :) Food can come in many forms and not all are physical items you shove down your gullet lol.
In other words, get up! Walk! But it's raining and cold. No umbrella! I know! Walk indoors. Nonstop for at least one hour. That will equal one mile for me. At 75 don't power walk. Just meander. Garbanzos are good on a salad. Sorry, being silly. Will start walking. Starting today. Have a nice day.
Saw Dr. Batiste at the vegan cruise. He’s great!
A vegan cruise? That sounds awesome! I'm just picturing all the food opportunities on a cruise being VEGAN. WOW!
@@natalietannerblogger-theed9419 Holistic Holiday at Sea
You guys are the best! Thank you for all you do 💚
Keto, high fat, etc. etc.--ruined my health. Now on Cleveland Clinic cardio non-fat diet and I feel stronger, breathe better while walking. So for cardio people...and insulin resistance people as he said...
Can’t wait to see you tomorrow!!! So excited!!! 🎉
Finger Millet. Very high in Calcium. It has the highest calcium content among all cereals (344 mg/100 g)
Love this twosome, bringing truth to us plant based peeps. 🌱 thank you for all of your advice. 💚
Sesame tahini is a good source of calcium. Celery is a good source of nutrients for bones and teeth too.
See you guys tomorrow!
1 - Green Vegetables.
2 - Beans ( is channa and soy high in estrogen and should be avoided by women with hormone issues? PCOS or fibroids? )
I really like this format!!
I do too!!!
What about coconut oil. It is saturated. Sometimes I miss certain foods. So I buy a vegan butter once or twice every six months. However, they all contain saturated fat. My cholesterol is high. Vegan for years. 20 years almost raw. My doctor said it's my liver. Vitamin D3 is my choice. D2 constipated me. Allergic to Statins. Oh well.😅
Thank you for the direct way of expressing each idea. Some doctors go into so.many details that you lose track of the main idea.
Credibility alert! After hearing Dr. Barnard I checked my frozen broccoli and Brussel sprouts. 3 ounces of broccoli yields 4% of the RDA and the same for brussel sprouts. So to get just half of the RDA would require eating over 2 pounds of either/both.
yes and beans are pretty low too. Idk why he recommends any of these when barley grass powder has the most calcium of any food, wheatgrass (actually most grasses), spices like basil, dill, marjoram, etc., celery seed, etc. - these have lots of calcium within them! Why he sticks up his nose to grass when it's where cows get their calcium, yet recommends stuff really low in calcium beats me. Also beans are acidic with anti-nutrients (even if they say cooking removes them - because it cools off in your body) - so why talk about it in calcium discussions?
But when you recall that daily requirements are based on the SAD diet where 60 percent of calcium is not absorbed, the 4 percent in broccoli takes on a different look. You could, roughly, multiply that 4 percent by 6 to get an equivalent amount
@@karen-zb7pu it really doesn't - because that 4% is not all absorbed either - so it's not really an apples to apples comparison. Why care about broccoli when a spoonful of dried basil has about the calcium level of a half cup of cottage cheese?
There was a question regarding magnesium but it wasn't discussed. Do we need to supplement with vegan magnesium?
Thank you for this video!!
Chuck has had gastric bypass. This inevitably leads to anaemia, calcium metabolism problems, osteoporisis, teeth problems and a plethora of nutrient malabsorption issues. Going plant based is going to multiply this many times. And he will be a young, skinny diabetic with sarcopenia, kidney and heart disease and a fatty liver.
You are a star for us
Hello from Jenkintown, PA
Thanks for this! So helpful and entertaining.
Can't wait for you to tomorrow. A dream comes true.
Corn oil is high in Omega 6 fats which promotes inflammation if not balanced with enough Omega 3 fats. Corn oil is also chemically extracted, so you get some chemical residues. Watch the temperature when cooking with cook oil because you'll get gummy residues on your pans. 120 calories per tablespoon, skip the oil and eat organic corn instead.
Love the content!
@ 12:10 Our wonderful Dr. Barnard says to a caller it's good to eat a lot of Brown Rice. Could he comment of DR. Greger's reporting for over a year that it has too much arsenic (varying by where grown) in it so to avoid or greatly reduce amount eaten. This and raw veggie contamination reports are very troubling. How to decide. We have tentatively cut both out (OOUCH!) pending confirmation or clarification. P.S. This format is very efficient and engaging. Masterfully curated questions, thank you, Chuck, and expert responses by Dr. Barnard. Thank you. both!
The reason rice from southern US can be high in arsenic is because arsenic was used as an insecticide on cotton fields for centuries. And now many of those fields are used to grow rice. So buy rice from California or soak or parboil the rice and discard that water before cooking.
Soak rice 30 mins wash & drain until clear water (about 3x) then boil and strain….
Which beans are best?
And how do you prepare them healthiest way? And what do you eat them with? Please help !!?m
You mention whole grain rice but a lot of WFPB gurus are saying cut back on brown rice because of the arsenic levels, esp. in rice from the southern US. But I believe Dr Barnard said in a recent program that although in theory this is a problem ( the levels are much higher than the safe limit defined for arsenic in the water supply) in fact this does not seem to cause problems for us. Where is the evidence that bears this out?
Soak grains and beans for 1 to 2 hours and then dump out the water
The reason rice from southern US can be high in arsenic is because arsenic was used as an insecticide on cotton fields for centuries. And now many of those fields are used to grow rice. So buy rice from California or soak or parboil the rice and discard that water before cooking.
@@broddrI even soak the brown rice from California, because soaked rice takes significantly less time to cook, by half.
Any chance of bringing the live show to Canada some time soon? 😃
I've been a vegan for almost 2 years now. I was recently diagnosed with osteopenia. I already eat a lot of hummus and chick peas. My OBGYN has prescribed me to take calcium and vitamin D supplements. I'm now taking vita fusion calcium and vitamin D gummies. I already do physical therapy excercises for my lower back. I recently added 2 pound ankle weights. I heard that low intensity vibration plates can help. Do have any advice for me, besides upping my broccoli intake?
I can give you some advice to help build back your bone density. I know first hand the following things build back bone: Biosil drops twice daily, marine collagen, strength training three times per week, a daily scoop of AOR Advanced Whey protein (or Immunocal) with 8 oz of soy milk taken at the same time as vitamin D supplementation daily, and 75 grams of sockeye salmon (canned with bones) every day. Trust me! I know that some of these things are not vegan, but after twenty years I figured I would help myself a little bit! The results have been life changing.
One more thing... 2 pounds is not enough for weight training. As fast as possible try to work up to 10 pound weights or more. You must reach a certain mechanical intensity to trigger bone growth, and heavy weight training does this, as does jumping on one leg.
U can drink a spoon of molasses on warm water with a squeeze of lime/lemon juice..and definitely need to work out for strong bones
Prunes (3-4 daily) are supposed to increase bone density.
Avoid excess oxalate intake as well as too much vitamin A. Oxalate grabs onto minerals, inhibiting absorption. There is research indicating women who consume excess vitamin A increase their risk of osteoporosis. Carrots and sweet potatoes and spinach are high in both oxalates and beta carotene, which the body converts into vitamin A. It is helpful to get vitamin D from the sun or a UVB lamp, because supplementation doesn’t provide all of the natural forms of vitamin D made by your own body.
1st time here You guys are very Good Thank You. great show
Baked beans on toast is a very popular light meal here in the uk
I read somewhere that calcium is not absorbed in the oresence of protein. Dunno if it's true. Would like to hear about this.
Where can I find a Doctor like Dr. Neal Barnard in Austin, TX
And in Naples, FL
I was diagnosed with osteo. My doctor recommended that I take alendronate supplement. The other day while on RUclips a doctor had a podcast regarding taking this medicine hardens my bones which you really don't want. I'm so confused whether I should take this or not. I need to add that I have been plant-based for 25 years. And feel I eat lots of beans fair amount of greens. I do take calcium supplement with boron and vitamin d. I'm so on the fence with the continuation of this medicine. I don't know what to do. Thank you Nancy from Connecticut
hey I was born in connecticut! The reason why you don't want hard bones is that they can fracture. That's how it gets stress shocks - it's so hard that it has enough weight and not enough flexibility to handle impacts from the ground! So a little flexibility helps to handle pressure waves rippling through your system. Still you don't want bones so flexible that that would make it break too! I heard how fluoride makes teeth brittle - so brittle means hard but easy to break or shatter. Maybe that's what they're referring to? There's a condition called Osteopetrosis (petr, not por) where bones are too dense. Bones are made of more than just calcium - they're made of connective tissue as well as where blood is borne and comes out of the bones into the body - they need to bend and grow iwth the flow. It's like putting a treehouse in a tree - if the treehouse is an overly dense bone and the branches are blood vessels - you can see that where the blood vessels need to go can eventually not fit into the treehouse. Same with bone - they need to grow and adapt to changing circumstances and can't if they're overly dense.
Yes the NIH says side effects of alendronate are brittle bones! I personally feel with the anti-nutrients in beans I don't believe it's going to help bones (I personally get bone pains after eating beans) - so idk why Dr. Barnard recommends this. Also the ones he recommends just don't have enough greens. I personally eat barley grass powder and that remineralizes bones well - it has the most calcium of any food on the planet! After that basil, wheatgrass, dill, etc. However, I do agree with neil about calcium supplements being bad - because they come with acids that neutralize the calcium - so how is it going into your body?
Also where's your vitamin K2? Have you been eating fermented foods along with your greens - like saurkraut and natto (ok I see why he recommends beans now - but still you can get k2 from lichen)?
Do you exercise? I mean there's only so much to work with with the info you gave here lol.
Try also eating natto, it will help aswell.
I’m in the same boat ...I also saw that dr. that said the meds make the bones worse. It’s so confusing. If you get a reply can you share any info. Thank You 😊
Are you hosting live ?
you're coming all the way out to where I live for me? Wow everyone comes my way for me - so I don't have to go out for them. It's awesome!
And fava beans (foul muddamas) in Egypt
I thought there's an issue with favism in that area? Or is it just me?
Speaking of Menopause, if you're post menopause your estrogen levels are at zero, so if one is on HRT, getting the estrogen we've lost, that protects us from heart disease, heart attack. So why would estrogen be a problem?
I thought sesame seeds are high in calcium
It is
This video doesn't list the full plants that contain calcium. It's merely a top 5.
yes - but poppy seeds have even more calcium than that!
@@k.h.6991 none of the stuff he mentions would be in the top 5 lol - except greens, but not the ones he talks about.
They are, especially unhulled sesame seeds (which have much more calcium than hulled sesame seeds).
Some medics say it's carbs not fats that causes fatty liver...very confusing
I have heard in 1000 years from now the entire world will be vegan. This comes from someone who's frequency is so high she can see the future. It's weird to think no animals will be eaten in that time.. good but I can't wrap my head around it.. because of how people are today.
I’m praying it will happen a lot sooner than that. 🌱💚🕊🙏
Yes please, kinda checks out too with the time Nostradamus said there would be global peace again, like year 3800 something..? I still have no children, i just don't want to put my offspring through 8 generations of misery.
It will never happen. Too much nutrition in meat. Zero chance of this
@@annelizabethnugent6089 it will happen.
@@vanihansen2136 absolutely zero chance . Most people I know are increasing their meat intake. I have twenty nieces and nephews under twenty and they are all big meat eaters. People are realising the nutritional benefits of meat and are ensuring they have it many times daily. My own kids love meat and it is the main part of their diet.
❤Dr.Barnard
I've been vegan for decades and have osteoporosis despite taking vitamins/minerals forever and exercising. I also broke my right foot (although I think anyone would have with what happened) and chipped my ankle bone in 1/2021. :-(
I'm obsessed with Brussels sprouts, by the way.
Vegan can be a lot of things..for health u need to go WFPB. Also strength training
@@albania18 95% of my food is whole and I use body weight exercise. I'm not a junk food vegan by any means. My diet is super boring. LOL
Yet another doff of the hat to these two fine upstanding gents.
What about the need for vitamin K2 to transport said Calcium to our bones?
Sesame seeds
Bring back the humble beans 😁💪
Excellent Q and A. Also, thoroughly researched from the time before humans discovered the way to feed their growing numbers, Jonathan Spitz' new publication, MAN EATING PLANTS (Amazon) , is an extensive study of the history of the world's changing food resources. This book will interest readers who want to embrace the necessary changes to enhance our present health and future human survival. An amazing book, thoroughly enjoyable and understandable for even non-scientists like me!
I have to supplement calcium because I don't absorb enough from my beans and greens. Anything to help absorb the calcium I am eating?
That's what Vit D is for. The sunshine form of Vit D is best in my opinion.
@@curious1366 not everyone can do sun
@@curious1366 I have malabsorpion- too little stomach acid, digestive enzymes and bile. Vitamin D doesn't fix that or I would have recovered after a summer of digging drainage trenches for the back yard.
@@curious1366 I would except for the skin cancer risk in my family. Occasionally medicines and supplements make me more sensitive to sun. It sucks.
Love this!
Medium rare ribeye....YUM! 🥩+ 🥓 + 🍳 = 💪 Or 🍎+ 🍓+ 🌽 + 🥔 = ⚰
for Vitamin B1
Whole grains, beans, ...google it.
What about Ale cal supplement..
Contaminated and under-or tardily reported raw salad veggies are making the news and we need an up-date of effective means of protection. I can't recall where I read the most recent expose (Consumer Reports or AARP? wrote that vinegar washes, and other methods of cleaning are not effective against nasty bacteria and pesticides. Besides growing our own (ARGH!) this 11 year WFPB happy camper is cutting out RAW salads which I LOVE. Dr. Barnard, could you please 💃do an update on this?
Thank you for sharing this information! But are there still SUFFICIENT VITAMINS AND MINERALS in CANNED BEANS? Do they still have ANY VITAMINS AND MINERALS? Is it healthy to eat CANNED beans?
I would honestly appreciate your answer and your help!
Kind regards,
Anna
Think of minerals as stones: you can boil them, they still remain stones. Very small ones, but stones.
Why the guest speaker is not mentioning,
Calcium in bone broth???
High oxalic acids and salicylic acids in plants???
Improperly prepared legumes cause digestive problems???
Please bring guest speakers with extensive knowledge of foods!!!!!
Are thes oils not contaminated because much of the residue from the oil producing countries are using the waste to make food oils. Yike
11:32 I am trying to start eating mainly plant based, I’m a work in progress!😊I have rheumatoid arthritis and antiphospholipid antibody syndrome, and am on warfarin and major RA drugs. There was a six month period where I was on steroids while trying to find a medicine that worked; and now I’ve been diagnosed with osteoporosis. Is there anything to help that along with the foods you mentioned that have calcium?
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well usually people get the way you do by eating dairy. Unfortunately when you eat dairy your bones can deform. It can take a lot to get them back on track - which is where I bet you were taking the steroids - to get your bones back in shape - because that's for the connective tissue (if I remember correctly). It's protein that feeds the connective tissue - and gives us strong bones (calcium's just powder without structure) - but the protein in animal products is just too acidic for bones and that's how you can get kidney stones (because the calcium goes from your bone to turn your kidneys to bone via the blood's acidity and detoxing putting it there) and osteoporosis - not to mention the damaging sugars in dairy too. When you start to eat plants like green peas (because yellow peas are acidic, green is alkaline) - and eat greens and proteins (which're in green peas) and carrots - so that your body can detox from all the hormones you put in your body from the steroids - I have a feeling your bones can start to recover. Eating foods like greens to build a microbiome to create K2 along with probiotics in fermented foods that have microbes that do that - will make your body much better. I know I fixed my bones up that way. That and drinking water - because bones surprisingly are made of water too! Everything is! Not sure about how to handle the antiphospholipid antibody syndrome - but I feel that because meat is so close to the human body - that this is what triggers autoimmune reactions -so plant-based will help!
Realize bone is one part of your body that takes some of the longest to heal - that and nerves. So you're likely going to have to wait for years before your bones go back to normal.
I would just eat barley grass powder - to remineralize the bones. Then I'd try to eat a lot of K2 while trying to avoid vinegar (that gives you jelly bones - it's pure acid!). K2 is the key to vegan survival! You can get K2 in saurkraut - just I'd make it at home to avoid potential vinegar contamination and eat it with greens to help absorb the calcium from there! Getting your body into an alkaline state will help your bones a lot.
I'm not a big fan of beans for calcium - more herbs like basil - because it's more nutrient dense. Beans also have anti-nutrients - so it's best to avoid. Beans are acidic and leaves are alkaline - so greens are better and more packed iwth calcium!
@White Rabbit are you asking the right person?
@White Rabbit oh no I meant disfigured bones - I had bone overgrowths. That's why I got confused. You can get them with arthritis too from what I remember.
I was vegan fornthree mos.then went home in the philippines ,thats where i fall off.start with fish ,then meat.now i will start all over again .
FOOD FORMATE VITS &MINS LIKE TOGETHER HEALTH❤ IS THIS MUCH EASIER FOR BODY TO ABSORB (VEGAN CO) MADE from chickpeas etc THANKYOUIS SLIPPERY ELM OK TO TAKE TO HELP HEAL GUT?
I am always amazed at how you guys completely skip Indian food. A huge chunk of vegetarian food is vegan. When you spoke of chickpeas, all you guys could think of was Italy and hummus? Have you checked the variety of dishes we make with chickpeas alone not to mention other lentils and beans? C’mon, open up your minds and palates unless you think Indian food is what you get in restaurants!
What about vitamin k2
K is in leafy vegetables and natto.
@@studentaccount4354 k1 is leafy vegetables. k2 mk7 is natto. you want the latter for bone health. the reality is that people are not going to eat natto because it is unappealing if you're not accustomed to it. people should take a k2 mk7 supplement.
@@orangemoonglows2692 I’ve been eating natto for 3 years now. I do not dare to eat it by itself; I drown it with kimchi. I introduced natto to my sisters and they somehow liked it on the get-go… lucky them. I eat natto not just because of K2. It has tons of other benefits and my husband and I noticed improved health. My gums have decreased pockets and no longer bleeding… among many other things. Still not my favorite food, but, I get paranoid when missing it for a few days.😅
@@orangemoonglows2692 I can't eat natto because it's soy and soy will make me ill. I don't recommend it to anyone - just in case of that. However, there's other foods like saurkraut that have k2, just much lower. I heard it's Bacillus subtilis that creates K2 - so maybe taking supplements of that to allow it to convert k1 to k2? Idk I haven't tried that, but I could imagine how it helps. I heard that you can ferment chickpeas like natto - and I bet adding that Bacillus subtilis to it would make sense in creating the K2 - as there's mk-7 supplements created via chickpeas! Some say it's like yogurt (although I heard chickpea yogurt isn't the tastiest). Maybe you can eat the Bacillus subtilis drink with the chickpeas and some action happens in your GI. Idk - I never tried. I'm just asying there's more to mk7 than natto.
@@orangemoonglows2692 Your gut microbiome also makes K2. But i also consume some natto weekly (there is one with miso/natto that is quite nice). We eat the natto to help my husband with his diabetes type 2 neuropathy in his lower legs (it's helping, but so is eating low fat plant exclusive ofcourse).
Beef, eggs and cheese. Along with exercise
Wh a t about mandles sesam high kalcium
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If you're eating foods that are rich in OXALATES, and you have a tendency to produce KIDNEY STONES, then isn't it a good idea to take a CALCIUM SUPPLEMENTS to mitigate the risk here?
Leafy greens and veggies are high in oxalate, which may lead to kidney stones. Even though this doc says leafy greens are high in calcium, the calcium in them doesn't seem to combine well with oxalate, which is a convenient way of preventing kidney stones from forming. He says 60% of the diary calcium is not absorbed by the body. That 60% combines with whatever oxalate you're consuming and prevents it from forming kidney stones. So famous kidney stone doctors are saying that, if you're consuming high oxalate foods (nuts, beans, leafy greens, etc), you need to consume diary at the same time.
cruciferous vegetables don't have oxalates. It's the spinaches, beet family greens, amaranth leaves, purslane, etc. that have high oxalates, as well as non-greens like almonds (unnatural vegan did a video on this). He already explained to avoid spinach and chard - so why are you bringing this up?
Actually you're not correct about the oxalate calcium combination - because it's oxalate-calcium stones that're the most common in kidneys. If you eat oxalates - you'd want to drink water after it - because that's how you can wash away the crystals. If you eat calcium - you get stones more likely! It sounds lke you're giving pretty bad advice.
@@extropiantranshuman That's not true. Cruciferous or not, most veggies do have oxalates, although some have more than others. The fact of the matter is, oxalate is only found in plant foods. So when you go plant-based, it can easily add up, unless you're very careful about the oxalate content of each and every veggie you're consuming and painstakingly track their oxalate content like bodybuilders track their calories.
As for the oxalate calcium combination, your belief is the typical big myth about the inner workings of calcium consumed along with oxalate. Do some research before regurgitating what you're told by outdated science. Or I suggest you watch the video titled "Oxalates & Kidney stones" by Nutrition Made Simple!
@@jadedk9916 Ok so I did my research to catch up. My bad about the cruciferous vegetables - yes they appear to have oxalates. And meat doesn't. However, not every part of a plant will have oxalates - like grapefruit juice has virtually none.
The thing is just because you don't eat plants doesn't mean you don't get oxalates in your body. Your body creates them. And certain foods from plants seem to decrease the oxalates in the body.
Look I already listened to Dr. Greger talk about how eating calcium with oxalates helps oxalates not get absorbed into the body and if anything it's already attached so it's not bad. However, to me I would presume that you're still going to absorb some oxalate into your body and calcium at the same time. I'm just saying it just makes more sense just to eat foods low in oxalates to decrease that risk overall. Yes it would be way worse on its own attacking the bones and sending that to the kidneys, but if you're not absorbing calcium then when you eat more oxalates your body is at risk. I am up to date with the science about drinking water to flush out the oxalates. Are you? After you flush them out then it's teh time to eat calcium - because it'll be absorbed. And I did confirm with john hopkin's website that if you eat a lot of oxalates even with calcium - any excess will be absorbed by the body and will get to the calcium in the urine - of which the urinary calcium can come from food (I just don't have any study that says this can happen from a high calcium + oxalate meal - but that doesn't mean we won't in the future!).
Look there's also citrus that flushes out oxalates too. So I'd imagine that's the best bet - because it actually breaks apart stones. So if anything plants can neutralize and decrease the oxalates in the body - even if they contain them themselves.
I haven't been too versed in oxalates because we just don't have much info on them. However, some of my info is old but there's nothing to update it with - so I still work with it. That doesn't mean I haven't looked at new info nor that my info is invalid. That said, thanks for helping me update my info - because there's new science that I was able to look at that you were more versed on - so now I was able to catch up. Still I was incorrect about what I remembered about the info I had - which showed all the plants having oxalates.
@@jadedk9916 Do you also track how much protein you're getting on a omnivorous diet? Because i think that's a lot worse for creating kidney stones than eating a varied plant based diet?
@@extropiantranshuman he said add lemon juice to them to make more absorbable
I also think there getting is ready for it.. like telling us to eat low fat cheese, yogurt milk..etc. I think that's there first step towards a vegan lifestyle. The problem though is that the dietary guidelines have been so messed up for so long nobody is going to adhere to what they say. I should say a good amount won't.. people who come here already know and are on the path to goodness.
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You need 4.5 servings of broccoli to equal the level of calcium in one glass of milk (about 270mg). It is there in the broccoli, but normal people cannot eat that much broccoli every day. Even then, if a woman needs 1000mg/day, it does not take a genius to understand that WFPB is too low in calcium. Beans have some calcium, but the phytic acid blocks it. Drinking a few glasses of fortified soy milk will help get you to the RDA.
So weird to see you two actually together…
I guess you haven’t seen the studies that show vegetarians have more fractures than meat eaters might want to look that one up
If you’re referring to the British study, that conclusion only applied to women. And the result was only statistically significant for women who had never had children.
Goes against the vegan agenda, pal. So they won't like that one.
Dr B, Washington DC has enough hot air without forcing gassy beans on the Old Farts on Capitol Hill.
Bernard’s bottom teeth are rotting. What’s up with that?
Smoker, I thought.
Hey Folks Kundan Saran is a troll he gets paid by the number of angry comment you make. Stop replying to his comments
he doesn't have any sources. He definitely makes stuff up.
Bah, usually i reply to help the algorithm, but not if the troll gets paid by the comment! Glad i could still help the algorithm by commenting to you, haha.
Cows digest differently. But this much science this man who grew up on beef n bacon will surely not know better
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@@Patrick_Ross sure. So is yours
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@@sschreck08 Do you understand your level of comments looks like troll more than someone sincerely questioning and raising concerns
@@sschreck08 Sadly not everyone as you expect are idiots and clowns like you expect from your standard of comment. I am anyways waiting for Neal Barnard to write back to me.
I would propose cooking a cow leg for the collagen and the protein which helps the calcium to settle in the bone structure. I don't trust beans as they bioavailability is low and full of antinutrients.
The only antinutrients in beans are in the coating, which get cooked away. Unless you are eating raw dried beans, there is no such caution. Animal protein does NOT "help calcium settle in...." I propose you go back to school and take some legitimate courses in Human Nutrition.
the only issue with this is that most collagen molecules aren't absorbed by the body and gelatin has a bioavailability of 0 - but you can eat foods that're high in essential amino acids iwth a high bioavailability like potato to help you get the connective tissue your body needs to keep calcium in place to do its job. I don't trust beans either - but luckily there's plenty of alternatives that're high in protein - like barley grass powder - which is both high in calcium and protein! How else do cows build their collagen? We can make collagen the same way!
@@SherryEllesson the issue with beans is that they're acidic! Greens are alkaline and have vitamin K. The one acid that's ok is vitamin c and tha'ts in greens - so we don't need beans. Greens not beans lol.
What anti nutrient does beans have?
Caroline Evert - Great info! Though, would the cows let me eat their legs???