Genshin Boycott ALMOST NEVER cause any change (unless Zhongli). So, this one is probably going to have the same result. It will last a couple week, and people will forget about it.
True. But, it's better to satisfy the majority that actually spends money on the game instead the one that barely spent any and that's what Hoyo actually did
Actually the cn community did the MOST out of all of us. they removed genshin from trending AND FRONTPAGE from bilibili ive also seen many cn people commenting about their disgust about this
not to rain on your parade but hoyo kinda didin't give a shit about 3 milion follower lose so what makes u think " cn " players knocking genshin down do anything? u are aware that star rail is making same if not more then genshin eatch month. so aaaa yeah
@@gintasasdnot to rain you but genshin cares A LOT about CN players. Just look at the Neuvillette incident. Seeing the CN players annoyed made them put an apology in less than a week. Which is incredible fast for hoyoverse. They had have altercations with CN players before and KNOW that it’s not good for them to anger them. Why you think zhongli got buff ? If CN players continue with their protest and actions, we can expect a change in Hoyoverse diversity management.
@@Lola_.drones. bestie u are aware that cn protested against nuvilette "nerf" no your racism u know that right? Read comments and yeah hoyo cares about cn not global so idk fact check next time?
Boycott?? They more like protesting. I understand if they want to be represented but what they are doing is not doing much, hoyo will just ignore under the pretense of being a fiction and not based on reality
I’m Mexican so I was exited about Natlan. Mexico along with other latin American countries are very diverse, you see people of the whitest shades to the darkest shade possible. So it made sense to me that there would white playable characters from natlan. What I wasn’t expecting was for ALL of them to be white against my better judgement. Even with the natlan npc leaks most of them are white. It just didn’t feel right to me and I genuinely can’t see myself spending any money on this game anymore. Like idc at this point if it won’t make any change I just wouldn’t feel right spending my money on a game that disrespects ppl of color like this. I don’t have an issue with other ppl spending money on this game but I just can’t see myself doing it
Honestly, people should have stopped playing at Sumeru, when the 'racism' issue was first raised. Most of the people who complained then, continued playing and spent money for characters then, and later in Fontaine. That's the main reason why I feel that this is all going to lead to nothing. People are still going to spend on Welkin and BP, and even splurge on Natlan characters once further details about them come out. This is currently getting a lot of attention now, thanks to the VAs speaking out, but it's still just lip service at the moment. You know what will really make a difference? If all those VAs actually quit voicing Genshin characters until Hoyo responds. I'll wait for the first one to announce it.
Getting EN va's to all quit, cool the game comes in 3 other languages. Cause no shot if you think the VA's of other languages share the Western perspective. Not to burst your bubble but JP and CN superior to EN.
@@stevenzhao1561 It won't happen. Hoyo wouldn't budge. But you're naive to presume that people wouldn't care if there's no EN voice-acting for Genshin. It's literally the international language. CN VA are only for CN. The rest of the world doesn't really care about CN VAs save for some trying to listen to it. JP on the other hand is actually relevant in global compared to CN due to Japan's soft power from Anime and Japanese culture. But still, only having CN or JP would force others to read subtitles which suck. Also, why do you feel personally attacked? 😂 Hoyo is your mother or something?
@@hijodelsoldeoriente Tell that to snowpoint, I just find it funny how people think boycotting for Genshin about skin tone would work when boycotts about anniversary rewards and old character kits failed. Maybe you right that JP va are more relevant in the global sense compared to CN, but don’t kid yourself if you think EN can still compare. In terms of reading subtitles, if we can do it for anime we can do it for a mobile game.
I'm just gonna say this: There's more to a culture than just the colour of the skin. Boiling down a culture/race to a skin tone is rather insulting when said culture has so much more to offer in terms of representation. Do I want more diversity in terms of skin colour? Yes. But protesting the game for the lack of skin colour under the guise of "representation" is stupid and tone deaf to me.
That's not the issue here. People are upset because Hoyoverse has consistently borrowed aspects (such as language, names, mythology, music, fashion, architecture, etc) from various cultures, while also designing the characters to resemble (superficially) the people who own that culture. They have done this with Mondstadt, Liyue, Inazuma (especially those two), Fontaine and probably Snezhnaya too. Even Sumeru to an extent. Within the limitations and liberties of the anime style, those characters could pass as their real-world ethnicities because they all share similar skin tones with said ethnicities. That's why when you look at an Inazuman character, you think "this looks like someone from Japan in the anime style." Obviously these are still fictional regions, but Hoyo still puts effort into making them resemble their IRL counterparts. I mean did they have to: - Design Yun Jin in a way that feels so authentic to Chinese opera, right down to the Divine Damsel performance that was so widely praised by Chinese media? - Parallel the Japanese history of Sakoku and Katanagari in the Inazuma storyline? - Draw the Shogunate soldiers in Raiden's backstory cutscene in the style of ukiyoe caricatures of Japanese people? - Heavily base the dead and desolate Tsurumi Island on the culture of the Ainu indigenous minority, who risked losing their identity at the hands of Yamato colonisers? With Natlan, even though it's very likely that the region is mostly inspired by Latin America, Hoyo still decided to include very clearly African concepts in the world building, like the namesakes of some tribal leaders and their companions in the Talking Stick lore desc being African leaders and African cryptids. They even use a Swahili term in Kachina's introduction, "uthabiti". So... why bother including African stuff for important details of Natlan's world building at all if they aren't going to bother doing the same for the character design?
@@Syiepherze That's exactly the issue, NOBODY would complain if they made the characters darker skin. Their issue isn't "representation" it's skin color, it's very obvious
And talk realize all the villains have the darker skin tones..it’s like there saying “your culture is so nice and look great in our game!…just not you”
So glad Reverse 1999 doesn't have this issue. They got a variety of skin tones. Anyway there is growing resentment towards foreigners in China. Some American tourists got beaten so bad. The pictures were horrible. There's a reason why many black hair care stores are owned by Asians... Control. Thank you for being realistic with this issue. I agree that unless the Chinese side gets hit hard, Hoyo ain't changing nothing.
@@localshadow21 ruclips.net/video/IOoX9yP2MVE/видео.htmlsi=JOi5DWC3QARoxKnD This video covers it. With sources and proof. That's how I saw the picture of the beaten up tourists.
Really hope they don’t take away the English dub (they probably won’t it’s to popular) Someone on twitter reminded of the 3 wish thing that happened and even China was in on it and everyone forgot in about a month… They lost millions of followers and got them back so fast
I want to say that unfortunately because they’re a Chinese game they are majorly censored by the Chinese government so they can’t show certain things in their games which suck but it’s not hoyo’s fault it’s the Chinese government’s fault.
I dont get the idea of CCP censoring dark skin chara, bcs I dont know what they gain from this. I'd even say that its either CCP censorship is loosen by time or what we know about these censorship stuff is not right. Not trying to defend CCP here, but I think you are barking on the wrong tree
@@pyuppyuku I dont think its that many. Maybe you can find that but like a needle in a haystack. Or they may gather up in somekind of subreddit talking about this topic. The same with JP
I was so surprised to see so many voice actors and bigger creators speaking out, because I've only been seeing hoyovesre defenders and some stupid racist creators who most of the time don't even understand how serious this situation is. I understand unlike what some like to claim it is a completely valid controversy, assuming Hoyoverse questionable history and Treatment of tan characters. Best is to not spend any money and preferably, stop playing!
What bothers me about genshin impact is the fandom itself, sure there are many good people in the fandom like seen in this video but the majority of the fandom just feels toxic due to cyberbulling and jealousy. I surely miss when it first came out when everything about it was new and it didn't have hate. This comment doesn't have to do with the racist controversy, it has to do with maturity and respect. I agree that what mihoyo did was very wrong. But that's the disadvantage of a huge community, fights, hate and rage.
In fact, this is not the first time that genshin has been ostracized for not respecting culture, because sumeru has also been in a situation quite similar to this, but I think hoyo will continue to ignore this like always
Lmao ignoring culture? its literally a game where everything is fictional and is not 100% real life based. they always talk about this, no matter how much white people is tired of seeing white people in games that wont change because no one like black characters in games, specially china.
Honestly they arent even wrong Bc how th do natlan characters remain so pale even tho its probably extremely hot and sunny in there Not to mention it will probably have a desert-like part of the map
I mean are the people of natlan the same type of human in our world is the people of teyvat the same human as us there are cat people elves and yukai rules of reality are not the same in teyvat as its here so getting tanned is impossible @@jenniferdunn5667
I play genshit and I don't really care about the drama Twitter snowflakes can protest about colors whatever they want it's never gonna work unless if it's the Chinese players but if it's global or western audience they're never gonna CARE which is my honest opinion about the drame honestly
I don’t recall Hoyo saying they want to represent. Huge difference between representing vs taking inspiration. Fantasy stories do this all the time it’s literally what fantasy is all about
@@rickeykekoa023that they wanted to represent cultures around the world. They have said that in X.0 livestreams all the time. They always mention what cultures they have integrated into the game.
We'll see what happens. If CN comes with the same energy the west is coming with, Hoyo might do something. I'm skeptical of anything happening like the "3 yr anniversary" situation. Hopefully the characters get their accurate depictions tho
don't take this the wrong way but there's no way i'm gonna stop playing just because some people are crying about something that won't change AGAIN. CN community holds most of (if not all) the power when it comes to Hoyo's Decision making, so unless they make waves nothing is gonna happen. besides, why should i ruin my good times worrying about other idiots who just cry on the internet constantly, all these content creators/VA's don't give a damn and are just trying to appeal to the very loud, and in their eye's, dangerous audience for their channels/careers. None of these people are actually gonna stop playing the game because they don't really care. maybe if all these braindead goofballs stop playing i'll actually consider doing so myself. i'm not racist and it's not that i don't wanna see some change it's just that i already got my own garbage to deal with and i can't bother sacrificing my sanity just for nothing to come from it. love all u idiots reading this
im very agree!!!! even in the cn community they didn't care or reponse for anything tho. but at least for the neu's incident they reponse bcs of the players are going to report them to the law.
Not hard to make them dark, but china haves something against color, but doesn’t mean go crazy over it when it impossible to change, even anime how many are very dark? Even when they’re dark they’re not main part of anime.
The problem is there would be more issues if they use dark colours. Because there would be people who would find it more racist using their colours when Hoyoverse is a Chinese company.
They can say its fiction but how can you get inspiration from all these different landscapes, climates, clothing, the flora there, then relegate the people to antagonist roles or minorities in their own environment. It's like using different cultures as a set for your 'preferred' characters
As long the boycott do not have the full backing of the majority of the fanbase outside of Twitter/X. Like how majority AC fans support the Japanese AC fanbase on the Assassins Creed Shadow drama. Since that trailer have a massive amount of dislikes compare to the meager amount in Natlan trailer. This boycott more likely end in failure and prove this whole drama is just a extreme version of performance activism. Also proving Twitter/X is the worse place to gauge consensus of the majority.
I’m kinda glad that the comments criticizing this “twitter mob” are getting little support in this comment section, especially when out of all the boycotts, this one is probably the most reasonable one
There's actually an extremely racist saying in China that goes something like "yi bai zhe san chou," basically meaning "white skin can make up three uglies," countries like Japan, Korea, and China, are all very beauty centered. I think a lot of genshins popularity has to do with their attractive characters, thats why characters will probably always be single and look nice.
It is really not racist if you know the context it is classist instead if you look pale which means you can afford to not go outside and probably not working in physical labor.
ahhh yes another opportunity for me, lately ive been playing genshin only to learn stuff from it like what not to do and making observation on optimization techniques because personally its the best fthan many games, maybe the best than the rest, not only genshin ive been learning stuff from but several games that are not even gacha, still my dream is to make my lore become a gacha game and ive been writing it for about a year now, learning coding, 3D modelling, anime drawing, about my lore design, ive got interesting ideas on regions such as africa inspired regions with very interesting characters for now i have two specical characters from the africa inspired region one having being inspired by the best story from my traditional lore wont mention it but i consider it a gold mine, and even other regions have cool characters and im very confident its gonna be a banger so, my plan is to make this game on roblox 😅 (a project proposal to game studios and honestly im targeting kuro games), but my initial planning is to create a team to help me create the game in roblox as soon as next year, wish me luck 😉
Best of luck friend!! The closest thing I've seen to a full African-inspired region is the fan-made Pokemon region "Leweka" but it is always nice to see more attempts at showcasing African culture and folklore. It's always overlooked in favour of Western and Eastern stuff these days; whenever someone makes an attempt, people always cry "woke"... I'm also working on a few fantasy projects based on my country, but it's a little difficult because there isn't too much documentation online to work with and draw inspiration from. But I'm trying my best 😂 Cheers!
People really thinking this boycott will work given the history of boycotts with hoyo. If the anniversary boycott and request for character updates boycott (rewards and actual in game gameplay) fail, there is no chance a boycott about skin tone is gonna work.
Boycotts are always guaranteed to work when the audience representing the viewpoint is big enough or able to persuade the entire community. The reason it won't work this time is because only like 1% of the community actually cares about this specific issue. The major problem with this specific issue is one side is trying to override hoyo's artistic freedom for something no one really cares about. Most the hispanic community doesn't care. Which are the only opinions big enough to matter in this case as black people combined hardly make up 10% of the world's population. That is if you include basically all hispanics or anyone even remotely dark skinned so it's prob closer to like 3%. Not all of these people play Genshin for that matter either which is likely to drop the number even more. At most like 1% of the genshin community represent the absolute darkest skin tones they say they want to see. Their opinions on it are stronger than that of the overwhelming majority. You can see how that gets drowned out by people just happy with what they got already. They are being unreasonable for the most part as well. They are trying to force something they want against the rights of a creator. Creators don't like that in general. xD They don't really understand that they are weighing their like 90 000 vs a community that is like 4 billion people wide. I think they should cut their losses and be happy they are getting so many darker skinned people. =3
I know she's Hawaii inspired, but coming from the latinamerican perspective, she's an average skin tone in Mexico and darker than 90% of Argentina. The actual hispanic community loves the character designs and we don't care about skin color lol.
@@Syiepherze Yes it does when they are being unreasonable. Which they've been since they started this controversy. The audience who are exactly represented by the characters don't care. So people shouldn't be caring and representing them either. They can be mad for their own reasons, but they are not allowed to get mad for the representation's cause now. Sure they can stick to the argument that the characters aren't black enough but that just makes them look racist.
June Yoon voices, most recently, Ga ming's fatehr along with kujo sara's father i believe. Hes played a couple other npc's in genshin but he's a super cool VA
they’re even going after hero hei because he called them twitter police and they got mad saying “we were just trying to represent our culture”. No one cares they’re still gonna play the game and pull for them 💀
Hero Hei's a damn hero of justice who's gonna virtue signal whichever side's winning or act "neutral" to look right. All he cares about is social credit points. Don't know why people even take him seriously
For me, I just focus on how they handle the culture since even if it is fictional, things like music or places are derived from real life culture and it would be fun to see that
@@krusher737 thats exactly what everyone should focus on rather than skin color. music, clothing, food and so on have more of an impact on a region rather than skin color. they can introduce new cultures you can research on.
Ororon is a name unrealted to Olorun, the Nigerian deity. This name might be aztec bit seems to be australian too, Oroton. The fandom decided it's based on X and the character is accurately X so must have skin like X... *sighs* As someone who is latin mixed race with a maori deity name, I don't see what the problem is. Why is a chinese gacha game needs to have any representation in a fantasy game is beyond me. Zhongli is pasty white... Chinese people aren't mostly white. They never represented ANY culture, not even their own.
Wow different languages have similar sounding things, shocking. Every single archon is named after one of the 72 demons. Ororun isn’t one of them, neither is Olorun. Notice Nahida isn’t either. Her mythological name is Beur, same with Focalors and the rest of them.
Tbh, I also think the Ororon-Olorun connection is a little bit shaky but the Chinese, Japanese and Korean names are all pretty accurate transliterations of "Olorun". Doesn't matter if you switch the Ls with Rs and vice versa, it's still a very specific combination of phonemes, and there is a LOT of precedent in the game for naming the characters after real historical and mythological figures. You can't really blame people for thinking this Also, that last part is CAP and you know it 😒
I think one of the problems people don’t think about is that Hoyoverse is a Chinese Company. I think they’re more worried that if they use dark colours, some people would find it more racist because they’re using colour that’s not their own. People would cause trouble saying that Hoyoverse is stealing their colour or disrespecting them. Either way people would always find ways to stir up problems.
Enemies and npcs have dark skin so why can’t they do it with playable characters? I just don’t understand why they don’t. The best thing that could happen is the CN also speaking out about it(because that’s where most of their money is coming from, the cn community is the one they listen to).
Iansan is the only one thats accurate. Mualani is fine. Xilolin is also fine. Kinich looks like he's chinese Chasca looks like rosaria if she grew up in fontaine Mavuika? She looks fontainian. Kachina looks like, liyuean. Like yaoyao.
personally i think only the nation is based off it and not the characters but i cant assume but i can say it might be the designer's of the characters fault and not the animators since they cant change the design (not tryna defend them)
Literally nobody apart from twitter insane people care about this. Do you know what people care about? The Neuvillete spin to win nerf. Hoyoverse is gonna roll that back. The backlash for that was so insane in the CN community that they issued an apology, along with 1600 apologems to be credited in a future patch, revealing they are roiling back the so called nerf. All 20 people with 50 twitter accounts that are complaining about skin color most likely dont play the game. This has been tried with the Sumeru region release and Hoyoverse told them to get bent.
the voice actors who agreed to voice these pale af character bc yay money and now afterwards come out with their fake activism lol similar to how genshin fandom loves to pretend they care so much but the moment genshin releases a character they like they spend money again and it is all forgotten. and half of the people who say stuff like "playing the game is fine!! just stay f2p!!" are most likely people who are f2p anyway so they can pretend to care without having to change/give up on anything. why not drop the game? oh yea, you care but only if it means that you do not have to give up a source of entertainment lmao
Genshin will never change if they keep up their revenue. Which of course whales will keep pulling. While some are unhappy, majority of the people playing dont care enough to refuse a new character. I just hope hsr wont be making the same mistakes if they decide to ever release a planet that's culture normally would have more dark skinned people. They have been listening a little better than genshin and I hope they dont take the same path 😓
@@Lola_.drones.controversial is bad and anyone just need to align with the "correct" opinion then? I'm also someone who doesn't care about politics when playing video games, if anything I play them to avoid thinking about politics so there is that
@@Lola_.drones. the thing is that you calling something racist doesn't make it racist. It's your own opinion not a fact. Identity politics is relevant and popular in the US, in China they probably have different issues
It might be a higher chance they might listen because their voice actors are basically calling them out but the truth is they don’t fucking care they care mostly about their Chinese players than their worldwide and I know what you’re trying to say oh it’s like 60% of players who played the game. I don’t fucking care if you’re going to represent a culture you should give them respect. It’s not that fucking hard But the one thing I am glad about is they haven’t did anything worse than what cookie run over break do if you know you know but other than that, they don’t fucking care and that truly is sad but if you want to game that gives good culture I believe reverse 1999 is a pretty good game or maybe other game I don’t know but I am a little bit curious about star rail would they do the exact same thing though? I hope they don’t sorry if this might sound a bit aggressive as a black person if you going to represent a culture, then respect it it’s not that hard (Sorry if you see spelling errors)
@@lukewilson624 I still like the game, but because I still like the game doesn’t excuse the fact that they should respect the cultures if you were confused I’m sorry about that. I should have put it in the post. but yes, if the company is doing something bad, you probably should play something else I do agree with you.
@@lukewilson624 in one more thing I’m still excited for the update it’s just it’s a disappointing that they do that and plus if I sell mad during the past is because I was sorry😅
Genshin: Has story quest showing how prejudice against melusines is bad and how others can successfully integrate into society Leftists: Why are you racist though DEI causes division.
They have black characters and beefy men (Azariq you beautiful man) as enemies and fully clothed npcs that people like, I don't understand why they're so scared to make people with either meat, no fan service or melatonin.
People tend to forget that the main market Hoyoverse is catering towards is the playerbase in Asia and that is why the characters look like they look. They want people to spend money on the game and unfortunately part of the beauty standard in Asia is lighter skin complexion. Just take a look at any K-Pop, Japanese or Chinese idol. Most of them are pale af. I'd love to see more variety in Hoyoverse games but it's just the sad reality.
Even so, at the global release of the game they have claimed that they will seek to accommodate EVERYONE and to be able to represent everyone, but they’ve turn back on their word. Trully a pity
It's so funny to me how people say natland is based on Africa and South America. Some say it is the Ring of Fire region, some say pre-Columbian South America, and they include Mexico, which is not part of South America. if u count mexico into it then why there is no inuit people in natland teaser. If its Ring of Fire, then where are the Japanese characters? If it's pre-Columbian Americans, then how is Africa related to it? Didn't we have the same shitfest when Summeru got realised and people lost their shit and after a few weeks got back playing? ng sounds like bored people are creating first-world problems. like when did we go and ask hoyovers hey where dose every region is based on? if the charcter has irl name it means nothing
Inazuma is already based off of Japanese I do think that It probably has Inspo from Oceania and places near the equator but idk that’s just what I think And literally there basically saying “If you are X and another person is Y and you have the same name then it’s Z” Like huh…
@@Loomine. once again if it's ring of fire "based region" then all the omg no black character bs is community made. If your name is Helga or Olaf yet u are not German u are idk Korean dose that mean u are suppose to represent german/ germanic culture? No names are just names people who complain about characters having God names is funny af
@@Loomine. name is name it had no connection to anything its literary just letters people just need to idk put there phones and see how there life's going
@@gintasasd Not to mention the “fixing” Because like don’t get me wrong they look very pretty with the darker skin. But people saying there fixing them is just telling people from that race they don’t deserve to have original character and have to use already existing characters to have representation and it’s disgusting. If you wanted proper representation make a new character make your own series! If you know about that one my hero academia creator that said that it’s a head cannon when they make characters have a different race. Like it’s not like making a my little pony character black it’s a pony and if that’s how you see them as human they yeah that’s a head cannon! Because they don’t have a race! Or even if someone just says like “hey this is what I think X would look like if they were Y” that’s fine to but calling it ‘fixing” is the problem. Giving a character braces is a head cannon, swapping a characters race is not.
Yeah but it’s just wrong like morally wrong!..like grabbing someone culture and not even going by the culture including the skin is fucking wrong and hurtful for the people that is in that culture!
@@ally7519 what a moral?? It's fantasy game not real life, anything can happen in fantasy world. What culture you mean??, Did saurian life in Africa right now??, Come on IT'S FANTASY
Global players are smaller in comparison to their asian players percentage and US only makes up for a tiny portion of that global player fanbase. Its already clear from day 1 whose target audiences genshin were aimed for. So all of these loud noises from the self-proclaimed majority of the fanbase ain’t gonna do anything to them.
White skin black skin? As a Chinese, to me these characters are just darker yellow and pale yellow. Mihoyo was just wiping up his ass because of bug fixing and weakening the character.
Only EN of course. The loud minority to be exact. The player that doesn't really spend much is very obnoxious.I'm seeing a snowbreak route if the voice creators keeps virtue signaling. I wish this materialize.
Why not just stop playing it instead of "not spending any money on the game"? But if someone really has an acute addiction to Genshin Impact or any Hoyo Games, maybe try taking a break for one or two patches. See what happens with the next patch. If nothing significant changes, you know ? Maybe we will understand SOMETHING....
Apparently the boycott going to be impossible bc nobody want to quit the game AND bc of tos that everyone agreed to when they download the game making it impossible for players to do ANYTHING about it. Unless they're Chinese. The chinese gov obviously isn't going to care either. Some chinese are calling these out tho but so far it seems like a losing battle.
I will say that the only reason I would participate in this is because of ororon well because of the mythology of the culture and if anyone who has been involved in this culture would be misrepresented … that would be the main reason I would boicot 😅
Boycott or not, this whole thing happening again has turned me off to the game. I uninstalled, I won't be coming back and I likely won't be playing any other Mihoyo games. Stuff like this gets exhausting, there's already too much racism and stuff going on just living in the U.S. so I have no interest in seeing my culture get appropriated by a Chinese company while I give them money so it may not change anything but I will not be supporting them. If everyone else speaking out is actually outraged, then stop playing their games too. That's the only thing that actually matters. Sadly, most will not quit and this will die down until they do it again.
You're the only one I follow making videos about it. Not sure is that much of a big deal and maybe you're just milking it? 😅 This is really relevant only for a small portion of Genshin players that are into identity politics and enjoy being offended on behalf of third parties. People from other part of the world aren't too bothered and it's not cause they aren't educated, but just cause they live in a society with different social challenges. I really don't play video games for politics and don't want any of that in video games
You must have missed the Twitter discourse. When they first leaked the Sumeru characters there was HUGE backlash for all of the playable units being light-skinned especially Nahida
@@elizabethk007 But even then I don't see why this is a problem. I am Indian and I barely cared about the skin colour of the Sumeru characters. Not every Indian is a shade of brown. Infact I'm myself pretty pale skinned for how the typical Indian skin tone is perceived to be and I have no ancestry outside this country. Brown skin and other shades spread seemingly equally throughout the population. Up north pale skin is more dominant. Down south it's the opposite. I think as long as the story, the lore, the gameplay is good enough enjoying the "game" shouldn't be a problem right?
@@rsen507 I think people had assumed Sumeru was primarily based on India (instead of Iran which seems to be the actual main inspiration for most of the region, including parts of the desert), so because they were so starved for more dark skinned representation in the game (this is after all a game that explores different parts of a world that mirrors our own) they were hoping Sumeru would finally be that update; where there would be a range of skin tones similar to that seen across the whole subcontinent. But they were probably expecting at least brown characters specifically like people from South India, SL, Maldives, etc. Also not to sound mean, but it isn't really surprising that you don't see the issue, characters who have skin as fair as yours have already been in the game since day 1
This is probably gonna get me hated, but whatever. First of all, it is a fictional game. Does it take inspiration from real like cultures, yes, is it the same thing though? No. If anything, every region except for Liyue and Inazuma are just mixtures of IRL regions. Also, people are mistaken. I think I can speak for at least 30% of players when I say, what I like is the culture and world depicted in the game, not those of real life, okay? I like whatever it is that they made with that inspiration; as for the source of inspiration itself, I am not the least bit interested. No offense, but they are just boring and dull and out of time. Lastly, again, this is fictional game, and a game at its essence. When I play a game, I look for a good story, nice looking characters, good music and cinematic, that’s all. If you care more about representation than what the game has already shown to be able to offer, then stop yelling boycott, just stop playing and find another game, since it is clearly not for you, but don’t ruin it for the rest of us. If you want representation, find it elsewhere; you care about the skin color of fictional characters, go somewhere else please.
@@_butter.cup_ , I don't see it that way. Let's focus on what @shuradurakura8310 was saying. "Genshin Impact" is a fictional game that takes inspiration from different cultures. It's not supposed to be an exact reflection of any real-world region. A lot of us play it for the unique world and storytelling, not for a precise cultural representation. Games have the freedom to mix and match cultural elements to create something new and interesting. The fun comes from the creativity and the immersive experience, not from how accurately it represents real life. Your example about using French and Chinese culture but making all the characters black seems like a different issue from what we're discussing. The main thing should be how the game's story and artistic choices fit its fictional world. Each game handles representation differently, and while it's great to see diversity, it's not always the main focus. In "Genshin Impact," the appeal is in its creative and imaginative take on various cultures.
@@raghatz when Yunjin sang Chinese Opera (regardless of the dub), Chinese opera became well known around the world. It went viral. It literally revived Chinese Opera. The opera singer who voiced Yunjin’s singing voice also got recognition because of it. That’s the effect Genshin had back then. With the growing popularity of the game, they have the ability to do this with other cultures too. Chinese opera is a REAL thing, not fiction.
Like he said in the video nothing is going to change. hoyo only listen to the Chinese player base as long as they are making money everyday. they won't change a dam thing it happened in sumaru people still rolled for the characters. History is repeating itself I will be surprised if something happens but it won't people made hoyo into what it is now a company that doesn't listen to its playerbase
hoyo isn't gonna listen to us. we'd have a better chance to get through to them if the chinese fandom did this, but idrk if that would fully work either. hoyo is scared of their chinese fans for some reason tho
I mean, the Chinese fandom already tried to assassinate one of their higher ups... Apart from that, CN revenue alone beats global & they have the CCP on speed dial so they have much more power
From what I heard, both CN and JP fans are calling out Hoyo, especially JP. Even if CN doesnt cares about the racist drama, JP does and they're a good chunk of the Asian base Hoyo makes money from, assuming most of their money comes from Asia. If JP stops spending money, they'll make Hoyo reconsider their decisions
If you don't like it , don't play it. Numbers does the talking. in both ways. Genshin is a old game and they know their player base. and anime style game they are making. China is now also under a anti-woke mindset in gaming community following GF2, Stellar blade and most importantly wukong's story. pretty sure it will backfire in their face immediately if they try anything funny, especially now there are news/"boycott" to make change.
@@frishter as far as i know hyvrse doesn't release tan characters. Just that. If I say, I like black people in manhwa... does that mean I'm racist towards white people? The answer is up to you, don't think too much about the game, you might go bald:/
@@Lola_.drones. They're not trying to make change. They're slacktivists who have no real world understanding and need to manufacture problems in order to act like they have value themselves instead of actually being productive. They're only interested in appearing virtuous and won't put in any effort to actually improve the world. They add more negativity whilst patting themselves on the back. There is no evidence of hoyo being racist, and instead have pushed storylines against prejudice. Something leftists should actually learn from.
If Genshin Impact was made by Kuro we could have expected changes but it's hoyoverse and thinking that they will listen to the players will be the most stupid thing ever. ( unless it's the CN community on an absolute Rampage on Mihoyo )
It's a game that is trying to rival the gacha market of course they need to build a good reputation. i like that they listen but you know some people are just not have enough so they will keep asking for more and will complain when the devs start to back down a little bit. I have seen people complaining about the rewards from the maintenance 😂. I wonder what will happen if they stop giving free 5 limited pull and 5 standard pull every patch. I hope they won't 😅
Like with all gacha drama, stop playing and stop giving them money. If they don't listen then move on with your life and find another game that does respect your race/culture. Also for F2Ps, you are valuable as a free marketing tool for hoyo and impressive numbers to their advertising partners. Don't let anyone downplay your impact (pun intended).
Honestly I’ve just accepted the game is white washed and not to expect brown characters that have my skin color in the game….so ya…I quit Genshin a while ago but hey- maybe.
![Does Genshin Impact actually NEED to give us GOOD REPRESENTATION? [Pre-Natlan Release]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/eyDV_0AV7b0/mqdefault.jpg)
Genshin Boycott ALMOST NEVER cause any change (unless Zhongli). So, this one is probably going to have the same result. It will last a couple week, and people will forget about it.
Now the drama about Neuvilette, though? maybe they'll listen to that
@@xenoemblem7 they have to. even the CN players sued them
@@AngryLad_80the boycott won't change hoyo's prospective but at least it will give the community the realization the Bs hoyo is doing in genshin.
Maybe because these people kept playing the game while "boycotting" the game.
They did@@xenoemblem7
好笑的是，现在如果米哈游真出了一个深色皮肤的角色，一定会被中国玩家打上“西方政治正确”或者“美式价值观”的标签而遭到更大的抵制。
毕竟在《刺客信条：影》之后，整个东亚游戏圈都对这种政治正确格外敏感。
True. But, it's better to satisfy the majority that actually spends money on the game instead the one that barely spent any and that's what Hoyo actually did
Yeah and since Asia spends more there probably won’t be a dark skinned character that’s meta. Iansan will probably be bad meta wise
This is nonsense, considering the high sales of Assassin
@@raghatznot true
Actually the cn community did the MOST out of all of us.
they removed genshin from trending AND FRONTPAGE from bilibili
ive also seen many cn people commenting about their disgust about this
not to rain on your parade but hoyo kinda didin't give a shit about 3 milion follower lose so what makes u think " cn " players knocking genshin down do anything? u are aware that star rail is making same if not more then genshin eatch month. so aaaa yeah
CN is raging bcs mihoyo nerfed the dragon boy
@@ZakiSCV its funny how people think cn cares what shit fest is in global
@@gintasasdnot to rain you but genshin cares A LOT about CN players. Just look at the Neuvillette incident. Seeing the CN players annoyed made them put an apology in less than a week. Which is incredible fast for hoyoverse. They had have altercations with CN players before and KNOW that it’s not good for them to anger them. Why you think zhongli got buff ? If CN players continue with their protest and actions, we can expect a change in Hoyoverse diversity management.
@@Lola_.drones. bestie u are aware that cn protested against nuvilette "nerf" no your racism u know that right? Read comments and yeah hoyo cares about cn not global so idk fact check next time?
It would only work if they stopped playing entirely stop spending money stop playing hoyo games
Even if they do, they are a miniscule minority of the playerbase. Hoyo couldn't care less because they're not CN
@anyaforgors it's sad that it's true. hope you have a good day
global market is just cheap change compared to CN market
Boycott?? They more like protesting. I understand if they want to be represented but what they are doing is not doing much, hoyo will just ignore under the pretense of being a fiction and not based on reality
Tru that
Teyvat has its own laws. Maybe the creator of it was a racist :P
@@Bullminator Or people are just thin-skinned and so used to REEing to get their way that being told NO has them losing their mind
the funny thing is, is that mostly is the americans complaining, over there in latin america do not care about this, and frankly i understand them.
@@paralixis4500 not only Latin America, there's also Africa and Nations in Polynesia. None of them are complaining at all, just Western Audiences.
I’m Mexican so I was exited about Natlan. Mexico along with other latin American countries are very diverse, you see people of the whitest shades to the darkest shade possible. So it made sense to me that there would white playable characters from natlan. What I wasn’t expecting was for ALL of them to be white against my better judgement. Even with the natlan npc leaks most of them are white. It just didn’t feel right to me and I genuinely can’t see myself spending any money on this game anymore. Like idc at this point if it won’t make any change I just wouldn’t feel right spending my money on a game that disrespects ppl of color like this. I don’t have an issue with other ppl spending money on this game but I just can’t see myself doing it
The darkest character we’ve seen is just slightly tan
Honestly, people should have stopped playing at Sumeru, when the 'racism' issue was first raised. Most of the people who complained then, continued playing and spent money for characters then, and later in Fontaine. That's the main reason why I feel that this is all going to lead to nothing. People are still going to spend on Welkin and BP, and even splurge on Natlan characters once further details about them come out. This is currently getting a lot of attention now, thanks to the VAs speaking out, but it's still just lip service at the moment. You know what will really make a difference? If all those VAs actually quit voicing Genshin characters until Hoyo responds. I'll wait for the first one to announce it.
Exactly
Getting EN va's to all quit, cool the game comes in 3 other languages. Cause no shot if you think the VA's of other languages share the Western perspective.
Not to burst your bubble but JP and CN superior to EN.
@@stevenzhao1561 It won't happen. Hoyo wouldn't budge. But you're naive to presume that people wouldn't care if there's no EN voice-acting for Genshin. It's literally the international language.
CN VA are only for CN. The rest of the world doesn't really care about CN VAs save for some trying to listen to it.
JP on the other hand is actually relevant in global compared to CN due to Japan's soft power from Anime and Japanese culture.
But still, only having CN or JP would force others to read subtitles which suck.
Also, why do you feel personally attacked? 😂 Hoyo is your mother or something?
VAs dont mean anything, they could just hire another.
i mean what sane VAs would quit because of fictional characters' skin color?
@@hijodelsoldeoriente Tell that to snowpoint, I just find it funny how people think boycotting for Genshin about skin tone would work when boycotts about anniversary rewards and old character kits failed.
Maybe you right that JP va are more relevant in the global sense compared to CN, but don’t kid yourself if you think EN can still compare. In terms of reading subtitles, if we can do it for anime we can do it for a mobile game.
I'm just gonna say this: There's more to a culture than just the colour of the skin. Boiling down a culture/race to a skin tone is rather insulting when said culture has so much more to offer in terms of representation. Do I want more diversity in terms of skin colour? Yes. But protesting the game for the lack of skin colour under the guise of "representation" is stupid and tone deaf to me.
facts
Out of all the languages, bro decided to speak the truth
@@krusher737 which is the best language
That's not the issue here.
People are upset because Hoyoverse has consistently borrowed aspects (such as language, names, mythology, music, fashion, architecture, etc) from various cultures, while also designing the characters to resemble (superficially) the people who own that culture. They have done this with Mondstadt, Liyue, Inazuma (especially those two), Fontaine and probably Snezhnaya too. Even Sumeru to an extent. Within the limitations and liberties of the anime style, those characters could pass as their real-world ethnicities because they all share similar skin tones with said ethnicities. That's why when you look at an Inazuman character, you think "this looks like someone from Japan in the anime style." Obviously these are still fictional regions, but Hoyo still puts effort into making them resemble their IRL counterparts. I mean did they have to:
- Design Yun Jin in a way that feels so authentic to Chinese opera, right down to the Divine Damsel performance that was so widely praised by Chinese media?
- Parallel the Japanese history of Sakoku and Katanagari in the Inazuma storyline?
- Draw the Shogunate soldiers in Raiden's backstory cutscene in the style of ukiyoe caricatures of Japanese people?
- Heavily base the dead and desolate Tsurumi Island on the culture of the Ainu indigenous minority, who risked losing their identity at the hands of Yamato colonisers?
With Natlan, even though it's very likely that the region is mostly inspired by Latin America, Hoyo still decided to include very clearly African concepts in the world building, like the namesakes of some tribal leaders and their companions in the Talking Stick lore desc being African leaders and African cryptids. They even use a Swahili term in Kachina's introduction, "uthabiti".
So... why bother including African stuff for important details of Natlan's world building at all if they aren't going to bother doing the same for the character design?
@@Syiepherze That's exactly the issue, NOBODY would complain if they made the characters darker skin. Their issue isn't "representation" it's skin color, it's very obvious
hoyo to EN : "who?.. Cares"
hoyo to CN : "RIGHT AWAY SIR"
And talk realize all the villains have the darker skin tones..it’s like there saying “your culture is so nice and look great in our game!…just not you”
So glad Reverse 1999 doesn't have this issue. They got a variety of skin tones.
Anyway there is growing resentment towards foreigners in China. Some American tourists got beaten so bad. The pictures were horrible.
There's a reason why many black hair care stores are owned by Asians... Control.
Thank you for being realistic with this issue. I agree that unless the Chinese side gets hit hard, Hoyo ain't changing nothing.
Resentment to foreigners? Could you please explain if you don't mind
@@localshadow21 ruclips.net/video/IOoX9yP2MVE/видео.htmlsi=JOi5DWC3QARoxKnD
This video covers it. With sources and proof. That's how I saw the picture of the beaten up tourists.
Thats funny lmao
@@localshadow21 what they probably meant is that China is not the most friendly country towards foreigners and people of color
Really hope they don’t take away the English dub (they probably won’t it’s to popular)
Someone on twitter reminded of the 3 wish thing that happened and even China was in on it and everyone forgot in about a month…
They lost millions of followers and got them back so fast
they are still talking about that lmao even it's not that hot anymore moreover beside the neu's incident that taking the tea currently
I want to say that unfortunately because they’re a Chinese game they are majorly censored by the Chinese government so they can’t show certain things in their games which suck but it’s not hoyo’s fault it’s the Chinese government’s fault.
tbh that makes sence
I dont get the idea of CCP censoring dark skin chara, bcs I dont know what they gain from this. I'd even say that its either CCP censorship is loosen by time or what we know about these censorship stuff is not right.
Not trying to defend CCP here, but I think you are barking on the wrong tree
isnt there plenty of chinese games that have poc tho>? correct me if im wrong
@@pyuppyuku I dont think its that many. Maybe you can find that but like a needle in a haystack. Or they may gather up in somekind of subreddit talking about this topic. The same with JP
Didn't they move to singapore?
I'm happy this is being talked about more. We'll have to see what's gonna happen.
Eitherway strong to see the VA stand up alongside the community ❤
I was so surprised to see so many voice actors and bigger creators speaking out, because I've only been seeing hoyovesre defenders and some stupid racist creators who most of the time don't even understand how serious this situation is. I understand unlike what some like to claim it is a completely valid controversy, assuming Hoyoverse questionable history and Treatment of tan characters.
Best is to not spend any money and preferably, stop playing!
The boycotters are so stupid they can't even stop playing LOL
Nice comment 👍
💯 agreed
I'm praying that those creators and voice actors have an impact, so many of them are literally darker than Natlan characters 😭
The only thing that might work is if Wuwa put out a dark skinned character lol
What bothers me about genshin impact is the fandom itself, sure there are many good people in the fandom like seen in this video but the majority of the fandom just feels toxic due to cyberbulling and jealousy. I surely miss when it first came out when everything about it was new and it didn't have hate. This comment doesn't have to do with the racist controversy, it has to do with maturity and respect. I agree that what mihoyo did was very wrong. But that's the disadvantage of a huge community, fights, hate and rage.
In fact, this is not the first time that genshin has been ostracized for not respecting culture, because sumeru has also been in a situation quite similar to this, but I think hoyo will continue to ignore this like always
Lmao ignoring culture? its literally a game where everything is fictional and is not 100% real life based. they always talk about this, no matter how much white people is tired of seeing white people in games that wont change because no one like black characters in games, specially china.
Honestly they arent even wrong
Bc how th do natlan characters remain so pale even tho its probably extremely hot and sunny in there
Not to mention it will probably have a desert-like part of the map
Yea and most of them spend time outside so they should be atleast somewhat tanned
I mean are the people of natlan the same type of human in our world is the people of teyvat the same human as us there are cat people elves and yukai rules of reality are not the same in teyvat as its here so getting tanned is impossible @@jenniferdunn5667
nah, i like my anime girls to be smooth AF and white
@@Nafets-CThat's him, officer. That's the racist.
@@Nafets-C SIC 'EM, BOY
Not gonna work genshin players bitch about the game but still play and spend money its like theyre in a abusive relationship
I play genshit and I don't really care about the drama Twitter snowflakes can protest about colors whatever they want it's never gonna work unless if it's the Chinese players but if it's global or western audience they're never gonna CARE which is my honest opinion about the drame honestly
I don’t recall Hoyo saying they want to represent. Huge difference between representing vs taking inspiration. Fantasy stories do this all the time it’s literally what fantasy is all about
Litterally the CEO said it when advertising Genshin in the release of liyue trailer
@@BuffBaraBoi they said they wanted to represent African culture?
@@rickeykekoa023that they wanted to represent cultures around the world. They have said that in X.0 livestreams all the time. They always mention what cultures they have integrated into the game.
Natlan is inspired by the countries in the Pacific ring of fire and a bit of African countries @rickeykekoa023
We'll see what happens. If CN comes with the same energy the west is coming with, Hoyo might do something. I'm skeptical of anything happening like the "3 yr anniversary" situation. Hopefully the characters get their accurate depictions tho
numbers are a lot less of the community than you think. CN is never going to get behind a reason like this.
don't take this the wrong way but there's no way i'm gonna stop playing just because some people are crying about something that won't change AGAIN.
CN community holds most of (if not all) the power when it comes to Hoyo's Decision making, so unless they make waves nothing is gonna happen.
besides, why should i ruin my good times worrying about other idiots who just cry on the internet constantly, all these content creators/VA's don't give a damn and are just trying to appeal to the very loud, and in their eye's, dangerous audience for their channels/careers. None of these people are actually gonna stop playing the game because they don't really care. maybe if all these braindead goofballs stop playing i'll actually consider doing so myself.
i'm not racist and it's not that i don't wanna see some change it's just that i already got my own garbage to deal with and i can't bother sacrificing my sanity just for nothing to come from it.
love all u idiots reading this
im very agree!!!! even in the cn community they didn't care or reponse for anything tho. but at least for the neu's incident they reponse bcs of the players are going to report them to the law.
It would be so easy too. Literally just edit hue and saturation.
Not hard to make them dark, but china haves something against color, but doesn’t mean go crazy over it when it impossible to change, even anime how many are very dark? Even when they’re dark they’re not main part of anime.
Umm...this is awkward...
Something against colour? They dont have any. Chinese are just... have and prefer fair skin.
@@Normalperso2833 because background of Ayaka lmao
they don't care about color, they know their market...
The problem is there would be more issues if they use dark colours. Because there would be people who would find it more racist using their colours when Hoyoverse is a Chinese company.
Bruh the character dev said not enough kids so we add more😂
More lolis please
@@xenoemblem7 😭💢🦀
@@xenoemblem7😭💢🦀
@@xenoemblem7😭💢🦀
@@xenoemblem7😭 💢 🦀
They can say its fiction but how can you get inspiration from all these different landscapes, climates, clothing, the flora there, then relegate the people to antagonist roles or minorities in their own environment.
It's like using different cultures as a set for your 'preferred' characters
Present day:
The boycott. Did. Nothing.
As I expected
As long the boycott do not have the full backing of the majority of the fanbase outside of Twitter/X. Like how majority AC fans support the Japanese AC fanbase on the Assassins Creed Shadow drama. Since that trailer have a massive amount of dislikes compare to the meager amount in Natlan trailer. This boycott more likely end in failure and prove this whole drama is just a extreme version of performance activism. Also proving Twitter/X is the worse place to gauge consensus of the majority.
I’m kinda glad that the comments criticizing this “twitter mob” are getting little support in this comment section, especially when out of all the boycotts, this one is probably the most reasonable one
There's actually an extremely racist saying in China that goes something like "yi bai zhe san chou," basically meaning "white skin can make up three uglies," countries like Japan, Korea, and China, are all very beauty centered. I think a lot of genshins popularity has to do with their attractive characters, thats why characters will probably always be single and look nice.
By make up you mean "hide" or "mask"? The translation is just a bit confusing 😅
It is really not racist if you know the context it is classist instead if you look pale which means you can afford to not go outside and probably not working in physical labor.
Is this still ongoing?? No matter even if it gets millions likes as long as it's not CN it will never change 🤷
I heard CN is mad too
CN is mad too, many netizens have already complain on media and started protesting too
@@HazardTone the CN is angry for something different
@@raihanrusli2720 CN is angry with the Nuevi Nerf I know but that whitewashin the western player are angry about Hoyo doesn't give a f*ck about them.
ahhh yes another opportunity for me, lately ive been playing genshin only to learn stuff from it like what not to do and making observation on optimization techniques because personally its the best fthan many games, maybe the best than the rest, not only genshin ive been learning stuff from but several games that are not even gacha, still my dream is to make my lore become a gacha game and ive been writing it for about a year now, learning coding, 3D modelling, anime drawing, about my lore design, ive got interesting ideas on regions such as africa inspired regions with very interesting characters for now i have two specical characters from the africa inspired region one having being inspired by the best story from my traditional lore wont mention it but i consider it a gold mine, and even other regions have cool characters and im very confident its gonna be a banger
so, my plan is to make this game on roblox 😅 (a project proposal to game studios and honestly im targeting kuro games), but my initial planning is to create a team to help me create the game in roblox as soon as next year,
wish me luck 😉
I wish you luck!!!!!
i wish u luck!!! May ur game become sucessful 😊
Best of luck friend!! The closest thing I've seen to a full African-inspired region is the fan-made Pokemon region "Leweka" but it is always nice to see more attempts at showcasing African culture and folklore. It's always overlooked in favour of Western and Eastern stuff these days; whenever someone makes an attempt, people always cry "woke"...
I'm also working on a few fantasy projects based on my country, but it's a little difficult because there isn't too much documentation online to work with and draw inspiration from. But I'm trying my best 😂 Cheers!
People really thinking this boycott will work given the history of boycotts with hoyo. If the anniversary boycott and request for character updates boycott (rewards and actual in game gameplay) fail, there is no chance a boycott about skin tone is gonna work.
Boycotts are always guaranteed to work when the audience representing the viewpoint is big enough or able to persuade the entire community. The reason it won't work this time is because only like 1% of the community actually cares about this specific issue.
The major problem with this specific issue is one side is trying to override hoyo's artistic freedom for something no one really cares about. Most the hispanic community doesn't care. Which are the only opinions big enough to matter in this case as black people combined hardly make up 10% of the world's population. That is if you include basically all hispanics or anyone even remotely dark skinned so it's prob closer to like 3%.
Not all of these people play Genshin for that matter either which is likely to drop the number even more. At most like 1% of the genshin community represent the absolute darkest skin tones they say they want to see. Their opinions on it are stronger than that of the overwhelming majority.
You can see how that gets drowned out by people just happy with what they got already. They are being unreasonable for the most part as well. They are trying to force something they want against the rights of a creator. Creators don't like that in general. xD They don't really understand that they are weighing their like 90 000 vs a community that is like 4 billion people wide.
I think they should cut their losses and be happy they are getting so many darker skinned people. =3
Mualani is normal, I know so cause some of my hawaiian relatives are lighter in skin.
I know she's Hawaii inspired, but coming from the latinamerican perspective, she's an average skin tone in Mexico and darker than 90% of Argentina. The actual hispanic community loves the character designs and we don't care about skin color lol.
@@lil_Perro based.
@@lil_Perro Good for you, genuinely. At least you're happy. But that does not mean your satisfaction gets to overshadow the discontent of other people
@@Syiepherze Yes it does when they are being unreasonable. Which they've been since they started this controversy. The audience who are exactly represented by the characters don't care. So people shouldn't be caring and representing them either.
They can be mad for their own reasons, but they are not allowed to get mad for the representation's cause now. Sure they can stick to the argument that the characters aren't black enough but that just makes them look racist.
June Yoon voices, most recently, Ga ming's fatehr along with kujo sara's father i believe. Hes played a couple other npc's in genshin but he's a super cool VA
The email he wrote was actually super professional and mature, unlike the opinions of some people
@@Syiepherze For real! mad respect to June
they’re even going after hero hei because he called them twitter police and they got mad saying “we were just trying to represent our culture”. No one cares they’re still gonna play the game and pull for them 💀
I watched the video too. Twitter is the media of all time.
To be fair, Hero hei added fuel to the fire to the situation while mocking them
Hero Hei's a damn hero of justice who's gonna virtue signal whichever side's winning or act "neutral" to look right. All he cares about is social credit points. Don't know why people even take him seriously
@@AratakiBullPowerSiddo1 same. Like oh no Hero Hei is a victim
How Long do you think the "Genshin Boycott" Will Last?!
Up until people will just pay money when pulling characters and hoyo will just disregard it 😂
It already ended
20 min
One more week MAX
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Mihoyo don't care as a person of colour I am dissapointed in genshin they will not change anything until they start loosing money nothing will happen
Even so it‘s important to adress this issue and speak your mind about it. Or else people will continue brushing colorism aside.
@@ChipitaDraws Get a life
For me, I just focus on how they handle the culture since even if it is fictional, things like music or places are derived from real life culture and it would be fun to see that
@@krusher737 thats exactly what everyone should focus on rather than skin color.
music, clothing, food and so on have more of an impact on a region rather than skin color.
they can introduce new cultures you can research on.
sure you are black but what's your ethnicity? if you are a black American that doesn't give you any merit to speak on a different culture
Ororon is a name unrealted to Olorun, the Nigerian deity. This name might be aztec bit seems to be australian too, Oroton. The fandom decided it's based on X and the character is accurately X so must have skin like X... *sighs* As someone who is latin mixed race with a maori deity name, I don't see what the problem is. Why is a chinese gacha game needs to have any representation in a fantasy game is beyond me. Zhongli is pasty white... Chinese people aren't mostly white. They never represented ANY culture, not even their own.
Them why does JP have him as Oloron?
Wow different languages have similar sounding things, shocking. Every single archon is named after one of the 72 demons. Ororun isn’t one of them, neither is Olorun. Notice Nahida isn’t either. Her mythological name is Beur, same with Focalors and the rest of them.
Tbh, I also think the Ororon-Olorun connection is a little bit shaky but the Chinese, Japanese and Korean names are all pretty accurate transliterations of "Olorun". Doesn't matter if you switch the Ls with Rs and vice versa, it's still a very specific combination of phonemes, and there is a LOT of precedent in the game for naming the characters after real historical and mythological figures. You can't really blame people for thinking this
Also, that last part is CAP and you know it 😒
@@lilithiris7 Correction, the Japanese name is オロルン、in romaji "Ororun"... Which is basically how you would translate a word like "Olorun" anyway lol
if the JP and CN don't complain then it's not really a big deal
i think the chinese complained aswell
@@skirnchskirnch it's neuvi spin lol
我不知道诸位在争论什么
hoyoverse是mihoyo的国际分部 他们没有任何自主权力 所有角色的设计、模型和规划都是mihoyo总部决定的 你们就算把在新加坡的那个hoyoverse点燃了也改变不了情况 因为他们除了本地化和宣传什么权力都没有 他们甚至很多是本地员工 都没有mihoyo上海总部的员工编号。他们要想去总部开会 还得提前办参观证明 你觉得他们能帮你们发声？
The reference on beemow the homie? Lmfao, absolute cinema.
I think one of the problems people don’t think about is that Hoyoverse is a Chinese Company.
I think they’re more worried that if they use dark colours, some people would find it more racist because they’re using colour that’s not their own.
People would cause trouble saying that Hoyoverse is stealing their colour or disrespecting them. Either way people would always find ways to stir up problems.
Enemies and npcs have dark skin so why can’t they do it with playable characters? I just don’t understand why they don’t. The best thing that could happen is the CN also speaking out about it(because that’s where most of their money is coming from, the cn community is the one they listen to).
Iansan is the only one thats accurate.
Mualani is fine.
Xilolin is also fine.
Kinich looks like he's chinese
Chasca looks like rosaria if she grew up in fontaine
Mavuika? She looks fontainian.
Kachina looks like, liyuean. Like yaoyao.
personally i think only the nation is based off it and not the characters but i cant assume but i can say it might be the designer's of the characters fault and not the animators since they cant change the design (not tryna defend them)
Literally nobody apart from twitter insane people care about this.
Do you know what people care about? The Neuvillete spin to win nerf. Hoyoverse is gonna roll that back. The backlash for that was so insane in the CN community that they issued an apology, along with 1600 apologems to be credited in a future patch, revealing they are roiling back the so called nerf.
All 20 people with 50 twitter accounts that are complaining about skin color most likely dont play the game. This has been tried with the Sumeru region release and Hoyoverse told them to get bent.
To be honest I think people are Karens on both "issues". Society is full of so many immature brats.
the voice actors who agreed to voice these pale af character bc yay money and now afterwards come out with their fake activism lol similar to how genshin fandom loves to pretend they care so much but the moment genshin releases a character they like they spend money again and it is all forgotten. and half of the people who say stuff like "playing the game is fine!! just stay f2p!!" are most likely people who are f2p anyway so they can pretend to care without having to change/give up on anything. why not drop the game? oh yea, you care but only if it means that you do not have to give up a source of entertainment lmao
@niconii3663 you do realize they didn't know they were voiceing pale characters right check the real information before saying dumb shit 💀
Genshin will never change if they keep up their revenue. Which of course whales will keep pulling. While some are unhappy, majority of the people playing dont care enough to refuse a new character. I just hope hsr wont be making the same mistakes if they decide to ever release a planet that's culture normally would have more dark skinned people. They have been listening a little better than genshin and I hope they dont take the same path 😓
Penacony is based off of the Jazz era which was dominated by black people so…
I never wheezing so hard reading a "Boycott title" imma just play whatever that makes me happy who cares about this and that
Alright mister ‘everyone needs to hear my controversial opinion’
@@Lola_.drones.controversial is bad and anyone just need to align with the "correct" opinion then? I'm also someone who doesn't care about politics when playing video games, if anything I play them to avoid thinking about politics so there is that
@@VirtualDarKness racist is bad so yes, avoiding the obvious IS problematic
@@Lola_.drones. cry louder
@@Lola_.drones. the thing is that you calling something racist doesn't make it racist. It's your own opinion not a fact. Identity politics is relevant and popular in the US, in China they probably have different issues
It might be a higher chance they might listen because their voice actors are basically calling them out but the truth is they don’t fucking care they care mostly about their Chinese players than their worldwide and I know what you’re trying to say oh it’s like 60% of players who played the game. I don’t fucking care if you’re going to represent a culture you should give them respect. It’s not that fucking hard But the one thing I am glad about is they haven’t did anything worse than what cookie run over break do if you know you know but other than that, they don’t fucking care and that truly is sad but if you want to game that gives good culture I believe reverse 1999 is a pretty good game or maybe other game I don’t know but I am a little bit curious about star rail would they do the exact same thing though? I hope they don’t sorry if this might sound a bit aggressive as a black person if you going to represent a culture, then respect it it’s not that hard
(Sorry if you see spelling errors)
Then just stop playing the game. Jesus you guys are whiners
@@lukewilson624 I still like the game, but because I still like the game doesn’t excuse the fact that they should respect the cultures if you were confused I’m sorry about that. I should have put it in the post. but yes, if the company is doing something bad, you probably should play something else I do agree with you.
@@lukewilson624 in one more thing I’m still excited for the update it’s just it’s a disappointing that they do that and plus if I sell mad during the past is because I was sorry😅
@@bedosworld4327 i think there's likely more characters. They haven't shown all of them because 9-10 characters for one region is way too tiny
oh no wait sorry i think it isn't but they likely didn't show some as fontaine teaser didn't show emilie
Genshin: Has story quest showing how prejudice against melusines is bad and how others can successfully integrate into society
Leftists: Why are you racist though
DEI causes division.
Melusines are a fictional race. Natlan is based off of a REAL culture with REAL people.
I hope wuthering waves see what happening at genshin and give us black characters.
Lol
They have black characters and beefy men (Azariq you beautiful man) as enemies and fully clothed npcs that people like, I don't understand why they're so scared to make people with either meat, no fan service or melatonin.
"Avengers assemble" ahh Situation
People tend to forget that the main market Hoyoverse is catering towards is the playerbase in Asia and that is why the characters look like they look.
They want people to spend money on the game and unfortunately part of the beauty standard in Asia is lighter skin complexion. Just take a look at any K-Pop, Japanese or Chinese idol. Most of them are pale af. I'd love to see more variety in Hoyoverse games but it's just the sad reality.
Even so, at the global release of the game they have claimed that they will seek to accommodate EVERYONE and to be able to represent everyone, but they’ve turn back on their word. Trully a pity
@@Lola_.drones.And other Chinese Gacha games like Reverse 1999 manage to include dark skinned characters just fine
The Chinese fandom (their main target audience) is complaining about no dark characters too so , thats not really an excuse.
@@ChipitaDrawsand they also accurately represented the culture without racist undertones.
genshin impact has special ability to not give a f about us community. so better not play this game if you want your opinion being hear.
Say or tweet Boycott all they want, they won't do it.... It's just another day HYV making money...
It's so funny to me how people say natland is based on Africa and South America. Some say it is the Ring of Fire region, some say pre-Columbian South America, and they include Mexico, which is not part of South America. if u count mexico into it then why there is no inuit people in natland teaser. If its Ring of Fire, then where are the Japanese characters? If it's pre-Columbian Americans, then how is Africa related to it? Didn't we have the same shitfest when Summeru got realised and people lost their shit and after a few weeks got back playing? ng sounds like bored people are creating first-world problems. like when did we go and ask hoyovers hey where dose every region is based on? if the charcter has irl name it means nothing
Inazuma is already based off of Japanese I do think that It probably has Inspo from Oceania and places near the equator but idk that’s just what I think
And literally there basically saying
“If you are X and another person is Y and you have the same name then it’s Z”
Like huh…
@@Loomine. once again if it's ring of fire "based region" then all the omg no black character bs is community made. If your name is Helga or Olaf yet u are not German u are idk Korean dose that mean u are suppose to represent german/ germanic culture? No names are just names people who complain about characters having God names is funny af
@@gintasasd YES! Like I have a lot of Asian friends and someone called them racist because there name is Quinn 😃
@@Loomine. name is name it had no connection to anything its literary just letters people just need to idk put there phones and see how there life's going
@@gintasasd Not to mention the “fixing”
Because like don’t get me wrong they look very pretty with the darker skin. But people saying there fixing them is just telling people from that race they don’t deserve to have original character and have to use already existing characters to have representation and it’s disgusting. If you wanted proper representation make a new character make your own series! If you know about that one my hero academia creator that said that it’s a head cannon when they make characters have a different race. Like it’s not like making a my little pony character black it’s a pony and if that’s how you see them as human they yeah that’s a head cannon! Because they don’t have a race! Or even if someone just says like “hey this is what I think X would look like if they were Y” that’s fine to but calling it ‘fixing” is the problem. Giving a character braces is a head cannon, swapping a characters race is not.
Yip tak was Gaming's dad in 4.4 or 5?
4.4
@@PeruvianPotato ty I forgot
if you dont like characters, dont play the game. EZ
I'm agree with you, they'r not use their brain for think😂
Yeah but it’s just wrong like morally wrong!..like grabbing someone culture and not even going by the culture including the skin is fucking wrong and hurtful for the people that is in that culture!
@@ally7519 what a moral?? It's fantasy game not real life, anything can happen in fantasy world. What culture you mean??, Did saurian life in Africa right now??, Come on IT'S FANTASY
Probably the sunken cost fallacy, they've spent so much time on it they dont want it to go to waste
Probably the sunken cost fallacy, they've spent so much time on it they dont want it to go to waste
Global players are smaller in comparison to their asian players percentage and US only makes up for a tiny portion of that global player fanbase. Its already clear from day 1 whose target audiences genshin were aimed for. So all of these loud noises from the self-proclaimed majority of the fanbase ain’t gonna do anything to them.
What I get from this is kiss your EN VAs for these games goodbye since, I think they are more concerned with thier biggest market which is CN.
White skin black skin? As a Chinese, to me these characters are just darker yellow and pale yellow. Mihoyo was just wiping up his ass because of bug fixing and weakening the character.
Only EN of course. The loud minority to be exact. The player that doesn't really spend much is very obnoxious.I'm seeing a snowbreak route if the voice creators keeps virtue signaling. I wish this materialize.
Why not just stop playing it instead of "not spending any money on the game"? But if someone really has an acute addiction to Genshin Impact or any Hoyo Games, maybe try taking a break for one or two patches. See what happens with the next patch. If nothing significant changes, you know ? Maybe we will understand SOMETHING....
Apparently the boycott going to be impossible bc nobody want to quit the game AND bc of tos that everyone agreed to when they download the game making it impossible for players to do ANYTHING about it. Unless they're Chinese. The chinese gov obviously isn't going to care either. Some chinese are calling these out tho but so far it seems like a losing battle.
If it gets too bad they’ll just remove all na servers
boycott: ❌❌❌❌
spend 1000$ secretly to c6 a character: ✔️✔️✔️✔️
I will say that the only reason I would participate in this is because of ororon well because of the mythology of the culture and if anyone who has been involved in this culture would be misrepresented … that would be the main reason I would boicot 😅
Boycott or not, this whole thing happening again has turned me off to the game. I uninstalled, I won't be coming back and I likely won't be playing any other Mihoyo games. Stuff like this gets exhausting, there's already too much racism and stuff going on just living in the U.S. so I have no interest in seeing my culture get appropriated by a Chinese company while I give them money so it may not change anything but I will not be supporting them. If everyone else speaking out is actually outraged, then stop playing their games too. That's the only thing that actually matters. Sadly, most will not quit and this will die down until they do it again.
You're the only one I follow making videos about it. Not sure is that much of a big deal and maybe you're just milking it? 😅
This is really relevant only for a small portion of Genshin players that are into identity politics and enjoy being offended on behalf of third parties. People from other part of the world aren't too bothered and it's not cause they aren't educated, but just cause they live in a society with different social challenges. I really don't play video games for politics and don't want any of that in video games
we have in game humans, neko, demons, where racism ?
Wasn't Sumeru partly based on India ? I don't remember people lamenting this much about the lack of brown characters in Sumeru.
You must have missed the Twitter discourse. When they first leaked the Sumeru characters there was HUGE backlash for all of the playable units being light-skinned especially Nahida
@@elizabethk007 But even then I don't see why this is a problem. I am Indian and I barely cared about the skin colour of the Sumeru characters. Not every Indian is a shade of brown. Infact I'm myself pretty pale skinned for how the typical Indian skin tone is perceived to be and I have no ancestry outside this country. Brown skin and other shades spread seemingly equally throughout the population. Up north pale skin is more dominant. Down south it's the opposite. I think as long as the story, the lore, the gameplay is good enough enjoying the "game" shouldn't be a problem right?
@@rsen507 I think people had assumed Sumeru was primarily based on India (instead of Iran which seems to be the actual main inspiration for most of the region, including parts of the desert), so because they were so starved for more dark skinned representation in the game (this is after all a game that explores different parts of a world that mirrors our own) they were hoping Sumeru would finally be that update; where there would be a range of skin tones similar to that seen across the whole subcontinent. But they were probably expecting at least brown characters specifically like people from South India, SL, Maldives, etc.
Also not to sound mean, but it isn't really surprising that you don't see the issue, characters who have skin as fair as yours have already been in the game since day 1
This is probably gonna get me hated, but whatever. First of all, it is a fictional game. Does it take inspiration from real like cultures, yes, is it the same thing though? No. If anything, every region except for Liyue and Inazuma are just mixtures of IRL regions. Also, people are mistaken. I think I can speak for at least 30% of players when I say, what I like is the culture and world depicted in the game, not those of real life, okay? I like whatever it is that they made with that inspiration; as for the source of inspiration itself, I am not the least bit interested. No offense, but they are just boring and dull and out of time.
Lastly, again, this is fictional game, and a game at its essence. When I play a game, I look for a good story, nice looking characters, good music and cinematic, that’s all. If you care more about representation than what the game has already shown to be able to offer, then stop yelling boycott, just stop playing and find another game, since it is clearly not for you, but don’t ruin it for the rest of us. If you want representation, find it elsewhere; you care about the skin color of fictional characters, go somewhere else please.
Okay so if someone made a game where they use French and Chinese culture but make all the characters black, would your answer be different then?
@@_butter.cup_ , I don't see it that way. Let's focus on what @shuradurakura8310 was saying. "Genshin Impact" is a fictional game that takes inspiration from different cultures. It's not supposed to be an exact reflection of any real-world region. A lot of us play it for the unique world and storytelling, not for a precise cultural representation.
Games have the freedom to mix and match cultural elements to create something new and interesting. The fun comes from the creativity and the immersive experience, not from how accurately it represents real life.
Your example about using French and Chinese culture but making all the characters black seems like a different issue from what we're discussing. The main thing should be how the game's story and artistic choices fit its fictional world.
Each game handles representation differently, and while it's great to see diversity, it's not always the main focus. In "Genshin Impact," the appeal is in its creative and imaginative take on various cultures.
@@raghatz when Yunjin sang Chinese Opera (regardless of the dub), Chinese opera became well known around the world. It went viral. It literally revived Chinese Opera. The opera singer who voiced Yunjin’s singing voice also got recognition because of it. That’s the effect Genshin had back then. With the growing popularity of the game, they have the ability to do this with other cultures too. Chinese opera is a REAL thing, not fiction.
@@_butter.cup_ah yes it's not like modern games and media don't already blackwash white characters..... oh wait they do!
@@_butter.cup_getting popular because of a video game doesn't last long lol
yeah 0.5% player-based trying to boycott good luck comrades
You clearly haven’t seen how many people have signed the petition
@_butter.cup_ This game has over 100 million downloads. 80k isn't gonna do shit.
Like he said in the video nothing is going to change. hoyo only listen to the Chinese player base as long as they are making money everyday. they won't change a dam thing it happened in sumaru people still rolled for the characters. History is repeating itself I will be surprised if something happens but it won't people made hoyo into what it is now a company that doesn't listen to its playerbase
To me this will not matter because as long as they make money things will not change and last time that did happen when people wanted change
hoyo isn't gonna listen to us. we'd have a better chance to get through to them if the chinese fandom did this, but idrk if that would fully work either. hoyo is scared of their chinese fans for some reason tho
The Chinese fandom is complaining too
I mean, the Chinese fandom already tried to assassinate one of their higher ups...
Apart from that, CN revenue alone beats global & they have the CCP on speed dial so they have much more power
From what I heard, both CN and JP fans are calling out Hoyo, especially JP. Even if CN doesnt cares about the racist drama, JP does and they're a good chunk of the Asian base Hoyo makes money from, assuming most of their money comes from Asia. If JP stops spending money, they'll make Hoyo reconsider their decisions
You're coping, JP and CN don't care
Actually apparently that might not be true
we got world wide boycott thing b4 gta 6
At least they tried
Not even natlan npcs are dark skinned 😂😂😂
If you don't like it , don't play it.
Numbers does the talking. in both ways. Genshin is a old game and they know their player base. and anime style game they are making.
China is now also under a anti-woke mindset in gaming community following GF2, Stellar blade and most importantly wukong's story.
pretty sure it will backfire in their face immediately if they try anything funny, especially now there are news/"boycott" to make change.
Hoyo wouldn't give a sh1t.
So you would have to convince China people to change Hoyoverse things
I'm just confused why people even care about this that much
Because narcissism :(
@@frishterjust don't play it...
@@issa3036 Why? I'm not the one with the problem
@@frishter as far as i know hyvrse doesn't release tan characters. Just that.
If I say, I like black people in manhwa... does that mean I'm racist towards white people?
The answer is up to you, don't think too much about the game, you might go bald:/
@@issa3036 Like I said, not my problem. I'm not interested what shade they are so long as it's not via force which slacktivists are trying to do.
All of the videos on the change petition are literally like actual 13 year olds who know nothing about anything 😂
At least those 13 year old are trying to make a change and call out of racist company
@@Lola_.drones. They're not trying to make change. They're slacktivists who have no real world understanding and need to manufacture problems in order to act like they have value themselves instead of actually being productive. They're only interested in appearing virtuous and won't put in any effort to actually improve the world. They add more negativity whilst patting themselves on the back. There is no evidence of hoyo being racist, and instead have pushed storylines against prejudice. Something leftists should actually learn from.
@@Lola_.drones. change on a game, not real life.
its not racist if you research cultures and add them on the game.
still not impacting anyone.
@@anapple6912but the problem is that they’ve added the culture but not its people
@@Lola_.drones.The only racists are the ones obsessed with skin color
Although the hoyo community has a lot of talent, along with that talents come very toxic people
The amount of people who have been outing how racist they are....
is anything you don't like toxic? what happened to artistic expression and freedom?
I know that I try play this Gacha game called Project Sekai
Genshit Slactivist: This company is so racist and i hate it but i cant stop playing their games
If Genshin Impact was made by Kuro we could have expected changes but it's hoyoverse and thinking that they will listen to the players will be the most stupid thing ever. ( unless it's the CN community on an absolute Rampage on Mihoyo )
It's a game that is trying to rival the gacha market of course they need to build a good reputation. i like that they listen but you know some people are just not have enough so they will keep asking for more and will complain when the devs start to back down a little bit. I have seen people complaining about the rewards from the maintenance 😂. I wonder what will happen if they stop giving free 5 limited pull and 5 standard pull every patch. I hope they won't 😅
Bro, don't you know there are also very few black characters in Kuro? They're basically the same in this regard.
I reallt hope hoyo listens to us soon-(i fucking sent them an email regarding this)
Haha, I once though the same as you, now, I have quit the game and started playing Wuthering waves.
@@burnking7986 tried wuthering waves and it wasnt for me 😔
@@burnking7986 A game with all light skinned characters? LMAO
@@lukewilson624 your point?
it's not a big deal.
and i don't care.
just replace those DEI infected VA. i only listen JP VA anyway.😂
Like with all gacha drama, stop playing and stop giving them money. If they don't listen then move on with your life and find another game that does respect your race/culture.
Also for F2Ps, you are valuable as a free marketing tool for hoyo and impressive numbers to their advertising partners. Don't let anyone downplay your impact (pun intended).
Oh no I didnt know I should care about ppl feelings in a game, anyway im going to keep whaling in genshin and wuwa
iaint gonna spend a dime on black character. why dont they cry about michael jackson
No one's asking you to, Neal Zheng
Your racism is showing ~
boycott wont work just like what happened with sumeru, though the situation is funny from an outside perspective
They need to put ZZZs designer on Genshin to filter these people out
There's too much negativity & doomerism in the Hoyoverse community.
There's to much stupidity in the community
Honestly I’ve just accepted the game is white washed and not to expect brown characters that have my skin color in the game….so ya…I quit Genshin a while ago but hey- maybe.
Nobody cares