Using Real Cabs With Amp Sims

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  • Опубликовано: 9 сен 2024
  • Miami experiments with pairing real cabs with amp simulators and shows you a few combinations to play with. Would you try this out? Let us know in the comments!
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Комментарии • 90

  • @kamilsliw19941
    @kamilsliw19941 3 года назад +20

    I wish to see this kind of a combo more often. I think it better showcases the versatility that amp sims actually have

    • @joeymusic
      @joeymusic  3 года назад +2

      It’s extremely useful! I think it’s important for those that are mostly in the box to still understand the experience of moving mics around on a cab
      -Miami

  • @Anshul1614
    @Anshul1614 3 года назад +6

    As I said, it's the new best thing. I use my fav plugins into the return of a combo and I'm golden. Good for practice, good for troubling your neighborhood.

    • @joeymusic
      @joeymusic  3 года назад +1

      Lol, the neighbors definitely aren’t gonna be too happy, but hey! It’s all in search of the tone right?!😂
      -Miami

  • @georgepelekoudis
    @georgepelekoudis 3 года назад +8

    That definitely gives the amp sims a new lease on life! You may as well capture the IR, too :)

    • @joeymusic
      @joeymusic  3 года назад +2

      That’s what I’m saying! And yeah, I’ll be doing some impulse captures soon!
      -Miami

  • @redlettervagrant1159
    @redlettervagrant1159 2 года назад +3

    The slate mic sim, bro! that just made my a world of difference in my guitar sound using an amp sim!! I'm using the t-racks mic room but wow, that's the bite I was looking for, thanks Miami.

    • @joeymusic
      @joeymusic  2 года назад +1

      Glad to be of service!
      -Miami

  • @okaight7248
    @okaight7248 3 года назад +5

    Now all we need is DIY impulse of the cab vs how the same cab with the same mic on the same spot sounds!

    • @joeymusic
      @joeymusic  3 года назад +4

      I’m on it dude
      -Miami

    • @okaight7248
      @okaight7248 3 года назад

      @@joeymusic yooooooo 👏🏼👏🏼

  • @fytakytemusic
    @fytakytemusic 3 года назад +4

    You stole my “secret” right out of my head! Haha - Been doing this for a while now 👍

    • @joeymusic
      @joeymusic  3 года назад +2

      Lol sorry dude. It’s OUR secret now 😀
      -Miami

    • @fytakytemusic
      @fytakytemusic 3 года назад +2

      @@joeymusic I usually run straight from the amp sim with the cab sim disabled out to my reamp box then into the return of my amps fx loop straight into the power amp section and out to the cab.

  • @m4ssee
    @m4ssee 3 года назад +3

    Sounds like something that would be fun to mess around with if you have the money and space for a cab but the best part about plugins, imo, is that you don't need a loud ass cab.

    • @joeymusic
      @joeymusic  3 года назад +3

      That’s def the benefit of plugins. This is more of a thing for people that want to mix the world of technical engineering and software
      -Miami

  • @andygreen5565
    @andygreen5565 3 года назад +1

    Good stuff. All of these short tutorials have been great.

  • @dominicsinicrope2795
    @dominicsinicrope2795 3 года назад +3

    I’ve been experimenting with this running the amp sim out to the fx loop return of a dual rectifier. Basically making the amp sim the preamp section. I don’t have a stand alone power amp here to do like you have in the video. It’s a quick way to get new and interesting tones.

  • @PooNinja
    @PooNinja 3 года назад +2

    Sammy said “you can have the best of both worlds” 🤘🏽

    • @joeymusic
      @joeymusic  3 года назад +1

      It really is! The options are unlimited with this setup
      -Miami

  • @mikesperling9878
    @mikesperling9878 3 года назад +1

    Pffffrrruaaaawahaaat? Ok that's freakin awesome! I will put a poweramp on my wishlist now. XD
    Man miami really, that was cool! I really like the idea of having the option to move around the mic. Thats mostly one thing i really miss on most amp sim plugins/IRs.
    Cool video as always!

  • @AndreChrisyudha
    @AndreChrisyudha 3 месяца назад

    best part is when he talk to mesa hahaha

  • @joshbeer414
    @joshbeer414 3 года назад

    Thats really really cool. I got to get a power amp now.

  • @LykaonMetalMusic
    @LykaonMetalMusic 2 года назад

    Really great video! Funny stuff is the Metal way!

  • @ayewhaddupdoe
    @ayewhaddupdoe 3 года назад +1

    Here I thought I was a genius when I layered Nameless -> KRS PA50 -> Cab with my Dover. "I can't believe nobody thought of this".

    • @joeymusic
      @joeymusic  3 года назад

      The cats out of the bag now. Time to come up with some new innovative techniques lol
      -Miami

  • @raphomet_
    @raphomet_ 3 года назад +3

    Awesome idea!! Can i run into the return of my amp too?

    • @joeymusic
      @joeymusic  3 года назад +2

      Yes! Running into the return works perfectly for this
      -Miami

  • @NihilQuest
    @NihilQuest 3 года назад

    I don't see much point in using an amp sim and a real cab for getting something that sounds just like regular amp (well, unless you only have access to a power amp rather than a guitar amp for some reason). But there are many distortion plugins that do not try to sound like an amp and they're not intended for guitarists. Getting these into a real cab seems like an interesting experiment.

  • @captainskippah
    @captainskippah 3 года назад

    i used to do this on live settings. i use UMC204 interface -> main out -> amp's FX return and it works well.

  • @lllazarrr
    @lllazarrr 3 года назад +1

    Hey, that's an interesting flip :)

    • @joeymusic
      @joeymusic  3 года назад

      Haha yeah! It’s funny because it basically doesn’t have the benefits of being quiet, buttt it lets you get more hands on without having to spend tons of money
      -Miami

  • @USAJ31
    @USAJ31 11 месяцев назад

    I love to hate that style of music. Keep it up! Man, you're a pro. Thanks. Subscribed.

  • @rivr
    @rivr 3 года назад +1

    That’s pretty sweet. I do something similar

    • @joeymusic
      @joeymusic  3 года назад

      What’s your setup like?
      -Miami

  • @Gdude899
    @Gdude899 3 года назад +3

    wait a minute does that slate mic contain 10+ mic circuits that you can switch between using the classic tubes virtual microphone collection plugin

    • @joeymusic
      @joeymusic  3 года назад +1

      I dont know the exact5 number, but its quite a few lol
      -Miami

  • @XRaym
    @XRaym 3 года назад

    This channel should be called "Miami Tones" 😎

    • @joeymusic
      @joeymusic  3 года назад +2

      Lol. The day I make a tone better than Joey that makes me so famous it’s origin is spoken in hushed whispers of forums for a decade we will talk😂😂😂. Appreciate the love though brother
      -Miami

    • @XRaym
      @XRaym 3 года назад

      @@joeymusic Dude, you are on youtube doing thousands of views. You ARE famous 😘

  • @joeysimoneau
    @joeysimoneau Год назад

    Man sometimes I miss reaper. That screen takes me back.

  • @Breathemusic4202
    @Breathemusic4202 Год назад

    OK im very new to all this new tech. Say I have a computer, interface, real tube amp and real cab. Do i just download a cab sim program on the computer? Would i run it OUT of the interface into where? Which input, if at all....total newb here....

  • @mitchdeathblossom
    @mitchdeathblossom 3 года назад +1

    Always flirted with the idea of doing this in a live setting, With Helix and such being 1k and up if someone unlocked this with MIDI it would rule!

    • @joeymusic
      @joeymusic  3 года назад

      You can make scenes with Toneforge Jeff Loomis to do this with midi off a laptop
      -Miami

    • @corey.flowers
      @corey.flowers 3 года назад

      Can confirm. I was able to do that with JL using an old POD HD500 as a midi controller. It's an interesting set up.

  • @lebebop1682
    @lebebop1682 2 года назад +1

    Hey man ! Do we actually need a "real" power amp (1:26) even if we have one simulated in our modelers ?
    Because if I get it right, we will have two power amp : a simulated one going into a real one ?
    Thank you !

    • @ronnieparfait
      @ronnieparfait 2 года назад +4

      The real power amp is sending power to the real mesa cab, it’s not for tone it’s for watts,
      that’s the only way you’ll hear the live sound of the speakers in the room. Hope this helps. 🤘🏼✌🏼

    • @lebebop1682
      @lebebop1682 2 года назад

      @@ronnieparfait Thanks, yes it helps !

  • @g43s
    @g43s 2 года назад

    I thought it was gonna be something like just plugin in from the USB interface outputs into the cab

  • @hariwinarta
    @hariwinarta 3 года назад +1

    What the title of the song, i wanna hear it❤️

  • @kshitijk14
    @kshitijk14 3 года назад

    real cabs shake the air in the room and gives a little nice flavor to it, thats what i figured out, thats why if sometimes i like the placement i made in the room just make and ir😁

    • @joeymusic
      @joeymusic  3 года назад +1

      Yeah, the air in the room def adds a nice flavor!
      -Miami

  • @Black55478
    @Black55478 Год назад

    what’s like a decent but cheap power amp

  • @robinflick5516
    @robinflick5516 3 года назад +3

    Do you only need a reamp box when reamping with a head? Or is this integrated in the poweramp?

    • @nickloper2542
      @nickloper2542 3 года назад +3

      The power-amp section of a head, and standalone amps like the Crown in the video, expect a low impedance line level, so no reamp box is needed (the signal out of the interface is exactly what the power-amp wants).
      Reamp box into a head/combo or preamp, definitely.

    • @robinflick5516
      @robinflick5516 3 года назад +1

      @@nickloper2542 Thanks!

  • @williamharrison54
    @williamharrison54 3 года назад +2

    That girl can sing

    • @joeymusic
      @joeymusic  3 года назад +3

      Thanks bro! I really do be hittin those high notes😂
      -Miami

  • @natebemis
    @natebemis 2 года назад

    What happens when you reamp by sending a track recorded with an amp sim through the front of say a JCM 800 via a reamp box?

  • @Rick_Johnson82
    @Rick_Johnson82 2 месяца назад

    What kinda mic did u use for the cab?

  • @AaronMorgan666
    @AaronMorgan666 2 года назад

    Thanks for this! But would be cool to see this with a modeler if you guys a few laying around that'd be cool to hear/see! Mostly because that's the situation I'm in. I have a hd500x, a precision drive and a few good guitars, 2 agiles (8 and 9 string) , balaguer, and a solar guitar.
    It sound good but can't get the djenty clank and djent quack I want unless I use headphones with the pod.
    HEEEEELLLLLPPPPP!

  • @gibson2623
    @gibson2623 2 года назад

    So, the level type of the output of and audio card, is the same type of level from a real amp preamp circuitry?.....Hummmm....That would be weird

  • @cursedbyzen9510
    @cursedbyzen9510 Год назад

    I tried this setup many times, but it always sounded very flat and muddy... It turns any DPS plugin into very uninspiring crappy distortion...
    Ofc I have disabled cab sim in the plugin and tried different power amps and effect loop returns in a real amp, also there was no clipping, but it always sounded bad and cheap.
    Maybe it's all about impedance? I don't know...

  • @matiasmoreno59
    @matiasmoreno59 3 года назад +2

    nice! can someone tell me wich song he is using?

    • @joeymusic
      @joeymusic  3 года назад +3

      That’s my band, The Words We Use. Unreleased song. I’m the vocalist 😀
      -Miami

    • @halfunder9712
      @halfunder9712 3 года назад

      Nice great vocals

    • @jonathansmithson8732
      @jonathansmithson8732 6 месяцев назад

      When is this song being released?? This riff is sick

  • @walth9092
    @walth9092 2 года назад

    Exactly what I was looking for. I run my Axe Fx through a matrix, and 4x12 Marshall, and absolutely love the sound while using Amp, and cab sims. Now I found a amp plugin that I would like to try connected through my presonas 2626_ out to Matrix" then out to 4x12.Can I choose any of the outputs from the presonas?

  • @EasyHeat
    @EasyHeat 2 года назад

    I've been wanting to attempt something like this using PC or iOS, Orange OMEC Teleport, and two Boss Katanas MkII's "power amp in"...
    In theory it should be an insanely cheap stereo rig of win?!!

  • @Steven_Morell
    @Steven_Morell 3 года назад

    Hey Miami how are you routing this in Reaper?
    I have the FX send from my 6505MH able to produce sounds out of an Orange 2x12 via my Audient but I’m still getting the amp sim sound with bypassed cab through my monitors at the same time

  • @TLBStudios
    @TLBStudios 8 месяцев назад

    What power amp is that

  • @dragtr0n
    @dragtr0n 3 года назад +1

    Miami since you use teles and i wanna buy one. I can only buy an affinity series tele for now which comes with top loader bridge. Do you recommend it for putting heavy gauge string like .60s? like will there be any issue?

    • @joeymusic
      @joeymusic  3 года назад

      Let me actually check this out and get back to you. But I realllllly want to suggest getting a used classic vibe in stead😩. You will be SOO much happier. I’m gonna investigate this with my top loaded right handed tele. I added a gotoh bridge to the one i use in this vid and a diff pickup
      -Miami

    • @dragtr0n
      @dragtr0n 3 года назад

      @@joeymusic i noticed that but im pretty broke rit now thats all i can afford.

  • @DeadOriginal
    @DeadOriginal 3 года назад +2

    What’s the power unit? Going into Mesa?

    • @joeymusic
      @joeymusic  3 года назад +2

      Power Crown xls 1002!
      -Miami

    • @RevelationsStudio
      @RevelationsStudio 3 года назад +1

      I use it for my Revv 2x12 and Helix, It's awesome!

    • @DeadOriginal
      @DeadOriginal 3 года назад +1

      @@RevelationsStudio I use an old 4801 Crest power head that Kurt Cobain used to use, looking for a newer unit

    • @joeymusic
      @joeymusic  3 года назад +1

      I would suggest anything in the crown line. Super cheap when you buy them used!
      -Miami

  • @ebenezeroswald7048
    @ebenezeroswald7048 2 года назад

    Can someone please tell me the name of the song I need to listen to it

  • @jeffreyfigueroa4423
    @jeffreyfigueroa4423 3 года назад

    4k is hard cut in my template so I never have ti hear that

  • @pauliusmscichauskas558
    @pauliusmscichauskas558 3 года назад

    Is there a reason to do this at all?

  • @jessica_video_projects
    @jessica_video_projects Год назад

    Mesa 4 x 12

  • @g43s
    @g43s 2 года назад

    Is it possible to use the cab as a pc monitor speaker?

  • @LOVENISH10
    @LOVENISH10 28 дней назад

    IR's are way cheap and experimental than real cab . Please give us a real amp sim that can sound like axe fx

  • @robbirose7032
    @robbirose7032 3 года назад +1

    Ummm Miami isn't this illegal??????

    • @joeymusic
      @joeymusic  3 года назад

      lol the laws were recently changed. Go forth, and search for the holy grail of tone!
      -Miami

  • @Coggler101010
    @Coggler101010 3 года назад +1

    First!

    • @joeymusic
      @joeymusic  3 года назад +1

      Glad to have you here Hayden!
      -Miami