The Secret behind E-ink Displays - Durability Test!
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- Опубликовано: 30 янв 2023
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Zack: snaps the stylus in half
Kindle: **nervous sweating**
Apple: *hastily taking screen shots*
Who are you Mr Unknown? 🤔
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Meanwhile Grandma crying in Corner
bad one bud
Gotta love when a video starts with a 2 min ad
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let him get that bread
Bros just getting that bag
@@ItsJakeJake Yea for 80% of destruction... I mean hey I can do what he does so?
Thanks for 2 min show me that good Produkts don’t need advertise. If a Produkt need an AD on RUclips it sucks so bad.
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The display keeping its contents even after dying is pretty intrinsic to how e-ink works: unlike LCD or OLED, an e-ink pixel doesn't need any power to keep its state, once the pixel is set it remains like that until you force it to change with an electric field. This is why the kindle screen-off mode is a wallpaper instead of just blank screen, it uses no battery to keep it like that. Physically each pixel is made of charged black and white floating balls that move around when you apply an electric field. Once the electric field ceases they stay put, you only need the field to make them move. The reason it needs to "blink" to either black or white on a refresh is because it's very hard to go from one gray value to another with precision, so you'd have a lot of ghosting
@@mustafahussein5599 You mean like emitting harmful lights to the eye? Definitely, because e-ink itself only reflects the outside light, doesn't reflect it. Some kindle models include a white LED "backlight" as well which I don't have a clue if is any different from regular LCD backlights but it's surely much less intense
@@mustafahussein5599Blue light isn't harmful. But it can tire your eyes. E-ink will not.
@@mustafahussein5599 only when refreshing to the next state, once the picture is set that it its not gonna do anything
Zack, we need a durability test for the BOOX Tab Ultra C (a color e-ink android tablet).
@@mustafahussein5599it's exactly like reading on a paper
i love how the most watched part is where the ad ends
contrary to popular belief, that "most watched part" is actually the most skipped to part. where people take the red dot from the duration bar and move it.
also who puts a sponsor at the start??? no one cares anyway just put it at the end
I'm really impressed how calm you are while slowly squeezing life out of this kindle.
thats probably why he buys 2 of them
It’s voice over boomer
@@midogaming2141 i feel like very few humans know that it is a voice over and a lot of people think that he is speaking while destroying
.his narration and voice is half the reason i watch his videos
First time seeing e-ink teared down under the plastic screen: very impressive how much it looks like a printed piece of paper! The way it bends without breaking is uncanny
kinda like live continuous printing until it dies, the last print is then permanent un-eraseable. Old tech but good tech
I always thought eink was pretty crazy tech. They use them in stores for price tags now. And it does not even need power. Simply use NFC to change it to what you want and then it stays like that. Pretty cool tech. I do hope to see it in more things
A wirelessly charging smartwatch would be dope
Being an owner of the Scribe myself you have giving me the satisfaction of knowing what’s inside and saving my Scribe from a fate years down the road.
I love how you make us understand how durable are the items you test though I hate watching perfectly good items get ruined. I'm conflicted between these two feelings every time I watch your videos.
think about is a perfectly good item one that a man can snap in half
I think that, from the perspective of someone who is capable and wants to buy one, this guys serves as a very good helping hand to prevent you to spend money on something that might be not very durable. But seeing this in the perspective of someone who doesn't have much money to spend on these thinks, it kinda sucks... I love Jerry's videos, but I also feel the same as you.
@@TheRockkyLeeProdigialys A great example of this is the recent Pixel Fold video. If someone accidentally sits on that phone while it's open, the phone is dead. That's very helpful to learn, even though I would've gladly taken that phone myself rather than see it be destroyed lmao.
@@TheRockkyLeeProdigialyshated these channels as a kid love them now that im buying the stuff
Interesting to note, this is not actually backlit. EInk doesn't allow light to come through well, as alumina particles are used for the white part of the screen. As such, these are front-lit, and using a neat bit of etching on the inside of the front cover to distribute that light evenly.
Love seeing these teardowns, always does a great job to let us know how careful we need to be with any given device
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Gotta admit, you've become wayyy smoother in your script while changing topics and I love it... been following for so long and haven't let me down whenever I want to relax and see some destroyed phones xD
Been whatching for years. Love the commentary and the terdowns. I've shown my kids you're videos and it's great to see the curiosity light up en ther eyes.
What left me suprised was how realistic the text looked while breaking of the glass, just like it was printed on a paper. Tech has literally come a long way.
I was thinking the exact same thing.
E-ink displays are not new.
@@E-hab the pixel density of the e-ink displays is, though. If you did the same thing to an e-reader from 10 years ago, it would look much more pixelated than it does in this video, because there weren't as many e-ink pixels in them.
it is like live ink
@@joeldowell5059 It's not new either, the paperwhite 3 from 2015 has a 300ppi e-ink display
9:25 “even in death this e-ink display is taking it’s job seriously”
That part got me rolling 😅😂
I like to read real books regularly, especially on my "screen free Saturdays" -- no electronic screens one day a week. But I love my ebook collections too, especially when out and about. I found your channel recently. Cool videos.
Nice!! I have always wanted to see inside a kindle but never had the courage to break apart my own unit...now I know how the e-ink display looks from underneath. Thanks.
It’s fascinating how the text stays even after powering off and being ripped apart. Backlight is handy, since reading in the dark is otherwise impossible
I mean... it's not really fascinating. It's not LED. It's just ink that stays on the screen, just like how ink stays on paper. How is that fascinating?
@@marioluigi9599 Thank you, I appreciate your positive and helpful comment.
I find the technology behind it interesting. It’s fascinating to me. Let others be excited. 👍🏻
@@DanielPoxV Well it's pretty old. Can't believe you haven't seen it before. It's been around for like 20 years. And apparently they still haven't managed to make a colour version yet.
@@marioluigi9599 I have seen it before. There are in fact a number of different color versions, from different manufacturers.
@@DanielPoxV Well I don't think there's anything like that from amazon or the like
Its fascinating to see how the e-ink display works! Since the pixels retain their color, it basically consumes power only when interacting with the screen. Amazing!
Each pixel is a capsule with white and black particles. The device controls those particles with magnets and once they're moved they stay the same until the device moves them again
@@ddnava96 so cool
I tweeted you years ago asking for a tear down of a Kindle. Thank you for that. Now I can rest in peace knowing what's inside.
Wow, Jerry, This is the only channel for the accurate information about tech and what's inside it before purchasing; moreover, we wait till you break it and decides whether buy or not. Thanks mate.
E-ink displays have always been fascinating to me. The fact that they can maintain the same image (rather than just displaying one solid colour) even when disconnected or broken is just crazy to me.
But it's not developing at all...
When you understand how they work, it stops blowing your mind so much. What blows your mind at that point is how tf did they mange to do this is at such a small scale😥
@@syedmuhammadsameer8299 Exactly
@@syedmuhammadsameer8299 like many great inventions it was mostly a matter of trial and error and an accidental eureka.
I mean its pretty much little cells that cange colors based on voltage. After voltage is applied they keep the color because they dont need a charge to keep their color like led's do
Impressive! I honestly never thought that the pixels stay in their last known state, even when being delaminated from the screen's environment!
That's the buty of e-ink, pixel need électricity only to change his status, not to keep it, it's more like a hard drive, that's why battery life on e-ink devices IS so huge, coz when the page IS refreshed, screen don't need électricity anymore, even if you remove thé battery, screen will stay on,see the beginning of the vidéo, screen was already on...same on all e-ink devices.
yeah, e-ink has been around quite a while but it has so many limitations its not wildly adopted. The cheapest kindel uses it though and its a joy to read on. I am looking for the color needed for comics that they have shown as new tech since 2002. I guess when nobody reads its hard to spend the money to develope. 8k screens nobody can tell the difference on with terrible audio is where the money is.
I really liked the way how Zack takes his time and explains even the smallest details
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keep up the great work always enjoy watching your durability test videos
I almost always prefer a physical book to read, but the kindles with e-ink displays are pretty convenient and easy on the eyes to read. It's really cool to see the inside of the screen and how it was still displaying its image after being destroyed.
@@xXGeth270Xx the convenience is great for sure, I prefer physical books also, but like you ive read a ton of books digitally that I probably wouldn't have if I needed to get the physical copy. It also helps a buddy showed me an app where I can download almost any book for free from brand new titles to pretty much anything you can think of lol
@@SICresinwrks Z library?
@@chirantanborah-rh6hn yes I think that's the one, haven't been on it in a while so I'm not 100% sure without looking but if its a different one ill let you know its name
@@chirantanborah-rh6hn i just went to check and realized it was shutdown, went to check reddit for an alternative and somebody figured out a work around so I was able to log in
I'm impressed by how quick it is while taking notes. I expected to see the same delay as you get when scrolling pages from the refresh rate. I wonder if it could be used for taking notes in general or a very expensive "To Do" list.
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I got a different one lol
@@elshazaliibrahim2892 Oh yeah I'm aware. Thank you for looking out for others though :)
If I remember correctly, that's because the pen can directly change the state of the screen. It pulls the "blackness" towards the screen, something to do with the charge of the black pigment. At least if I'm not mistaken.
@@legotechnic27 The black pigments in the screen are actually metal dust. So having sonething to do with magnets makes sense.
boy i do just love reading a good book snuggled on my couch whilst it rains
Really cool to see the tear down of a kindle. I would be interested in seeing more unique tech tear downs!
This must be one of the most interesting tear downs in a while. The fact that the screen 'etches' the last page on the display when it dies is just amazing.
Love your videos. When you work in It and read for a living, e-books is the way to go.
Yep!
I remember when I brought a Kobo Aura with a cracked screen to repair, and the screen cracked while in sleep mode. As Kobo e-readers display the cover of the last read book on the screensaver by default while in sleep mode (they had that feature for many years before Kindle did), I could tell after some searching that the last book that the previous owner read on it was 'Devil's Bride' by Stephanie Laurens. It was already reset when I got it, and when I set it up, it automatically re-downloaded the last book I read on my working Aura, which was 'Flember: The Secret Book' by Jamie Smart. In sleep mode, it looked weird because only around the lower ¼ or so of the display was working. It was so funny to me seeing how wildly different our reading interests were, that I took a photo of the cracked screen.
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Zack: The stylus supposedly never needs to be charged and has no internal batteries of it's own
Me: Hmm I wonder how they manage to make it work without any batt...
Zack: Snaps it in half*
Me: Oh okay
yeah
I don't have a Scribe but have been using Kindle PaperWhites for almost a decade. I'm on my third one now, so obviously I'm a satisfied customer. One point concerning battery life -- the ratings you quoted are for standby operation. If you are actively reading, especially in the dark with backlit LEDs on, you have to charge every few days, not every few weeks. But if the Kindle is just sitting on your desk unused, it does maintain charge for a very long time.
Been subbed for years, going to college soon and these look like a great deal
the speed with which the ink appears when using the stylus is quite impressive. seems like e-readers are getting their glow up
This is because the black (on a white background) and white (on a black background) ink particles are being directly lifted up by the stylus instead of reacting through a digital interface leading to functionally no latency. Which is good because this is a technology that considers 14hz an extremely high refresh rate.
This isn't actually new! Its been standard on the high-end for years now.
@@AyaKho this is incorrect. They use EMR technology like many Wacom tablets to sense where the pen is and then they have optimized the partial screen refresh to respond to the sensed pen position quickly.
I've been a kindle user for almost 5 years now, and it has changed my life in so many ways! It was so interesting to see the durability test on a kindle! Thank you so much for your content!
Genuinely interesting tech, E-Ink, and great teardown and explanation of durability.
This is a cideo I didn't know I needed. I've always been curious about e ink tablets, but never actually bothered to look onto it.
E-readers have always been fascinating to me. Mainly because as the years have gone by, they are still, for the most part, still operating in the same way as they were 15 years ago. Fun stuff, always a pleasure Jerry.
To be fair iPhones are also operating in the same way as they were 15 years ago.
They pretty much nailed e-readers from the start. They are really good at what they were intended for.
that's called a monopoly, amazon uses swings its bick money phallus to sell these things at a loss and lock people into buying non existant books for their "e-readers", thus, no competition developed over the last years.
Performed way better than expected. The bend tests always make me cringe!
Great video as always! One nitpick - it's not the first e-ink tablet for both reading and writing (0:15), just Amazon's first e-ink tablet for reading and writing. Other brands have been making similar products for a while.
Ages
I’d love to see you review the ReMarkable 2 tablet, something that’s in direct competition with the Kindle Scribe. I own one myself, so I also just have affinity to seeing something I rely on daily for taking notes in college get obliterated by your testing 😂
i read books on ocassional basis. Your videos are really informative and i recommended your channel too almost all of my friends. Thanks
*Screen unresponsive after bending front and back*
8:32 Zack: let's find out why
E-ink displays are definitely really cool and it's nice seeing some research and development being put into actually improving and expanding upon what they're capable of. While a lot of people seem to prefer the physical feel of real books and they're not going away anytime soon, having a convenient alternative when carrying around a bunch of books isn't very feasible is nice.
Yes! I don't have a lot of storage for physical books, and I don't want to bring the ones I have out of the house!* I read physically at home, and digitally when I'm out.
On top of that, some of the books I read aren't available digitally and I'd instead have to rely on public libraries or buying my own copies of the books I want to read, so yes, I do make some exceptions. Not only that, but some of the books I read don't have good digital editions, like if a publisher released an illustrated novel in reflowable text formats (like what's used for novels) rather than print-replica formats (like what's used for comics).
*Unless they're pre-owned copies that already had pages curling and such when I got them, like with my copies of stuff like Kitty Quest and Ace Agent Spycat.
I try to keep my physical copies of stuff like Agent 9 and Adventuremice pristine! (I had those from new)
09:20 kind of poetic how the moment when it dies lasts foever
so interesting to see what the flipping and static pixels of an eink device really look like! it really looks like a printed layer
E-ink displays are kinda fascinating with a completely different way to use pixels and interact with the screen. Good job Jerry!
Always amazed by e-ink. The Scribe looks pretty impressive! Thanks for the teardown
Seeing the screen displaying text after it's been torn apart is actually so interesting
Thanks for another informative video. Always interested in how things work inside
I bought the first paperwhite with a built in light in 2010. It has been on 3 overseas combat tours and I still use it today. You can tell the battery has suffered a little but I still love it.
A very interesting tear down Zach, Ive had a kindle paper white for years and I've sometimes wondered what the e-ink displays look like on the inside. I'm not sure that i would have a use for the scribe version but the durability test was impressive.
I read a book just a few days ago and I have one in my bag to read tonight.
going to get a kindle soon, the sound of writings with a pen seems soothing 😊
Genuinely fascinating seeing the constrcution of that display. I'm a product designer by profession but this is the first time I've seen an e-ink display actually torn apart!
Until now I'm still curious about how e-ink works. It's amazing to see the screen still displaying an image when it's been tampered with.
I've never understood how e-ink works, and I still don't..but I'm fascinated at how the pixels stayed their color during this.
Same.
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When you forgot its ebook but you needa turn the page!
The most interesting part of the video is in the end at 9:30 where the text reads "The effect remains.." Lol
I love reading at the pool, nothing better than getting warm and cooling off between chapters
Got a Kindle Paperwhite two weeks ago, it’s definitely really cool! 😄
Honestly, I've always been pretty confused by how e-ink displays work, but this actually explained it pretty well. Yet another great durability test!
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I've always found E-Ink fascinating, and wished it was a technology that could somehow be implemented into mainstream tablets and phones.
There are a few (very few) screens with a bit of color out there. I agree, I want a comic reader that I can use at work for notes. I would drop $900 on that as an early adopter, they just dont seem to exist or are terribly received.
i want a phone with an all week battery
There are phones with dual screen E-ink and LCD. At least 5 of them
E-ink technology has a huge base in China, so e-ink phones are far easier to find as well. I think BOOX also has some really good android einks with different screen sizes.
What I want is a Casio watch with an E-Ink display. No smart watch features, just a slick LCD-like display. While lasting years like common digital faces.
9 months late but this is a wonderful durability test video.
Love your videos dude
Your videos have helped me stay away from things that could harm my devices with solid knowledge of what will harm them. Thank you for making these; I've been a long time fan!
Love what you and your wife do to make the world more accessible for those in need. You are wonderful people Zack, thank you for doing good in the world.
Haven't read a book in a long time. Will read when I get this device from you.
Definitely will have to consider one of these to replace my old kindle that's wearing out
E Ink is still an incredibly fascinating piece of tech! Great video as always, Zack.
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Agree with others, I did not expect it to survive the bend test nearly as well as it did. Very interesting indeed!
I've been reading Neal Shusterman's book series called Unwind. I just finished book 2 and started on the 3rd book. As of this morning, I am on page 33. Neat video! I love e-ink displays. Have you tested the durability of the Light Phone II yet?
Gotta like your work mate!!
I hoped for years that they would finally make a bigger e-ink display, it would be awesome for reading papers. Especially if you can hand scribble notes and scetches on the pdf.
I pretty much always have my old small kindle with me and can highly recommend the touch versions for learning new languages: Don't know a word? Just press on it and any dictionaries you installed will show you a translation. It's no hassle and it's fast enough that you don't use your flow. By now my kindle looks like something thats been living in a backpack for years, still works great but of course I wouldn't mind an upgrade that could help me with my masters thesis :D
Thanks for the review!
They did have the DX for a while. I'm guessing they didn't sell all that well. Clearly Amazon is hoping that adding a stylus might be the killer app. Plus in relative terms, I think the price is lower.
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I've never seen an E-Ink display torn down like that. Actually super interesting how thin everything is and that the pixels stay in there orientation no matter what happens to the display. I've always been interested in a larger E-Ink display for reading because the regular kindle is just too small for my liking. But I've always steered away because of the $300+ price tag of this thing.
I've had the small kindles. About 3 of them. For a while I was just upgrading and giving the old ones to friends and family. Haven't found a reason to go newer than the paper white 11. But this massive display would be great for graphic novels.
I love your videos, Jerry!
sneaky Zack: 9:15 "...which are still amazingly turned on. These 16 shares of gray don't mess around."
It's the first from Amazon. There have been dozens of models from other manufacturers.
It is really interesting to see how the screen works from the inside
been tryinf to read requiem for a dream, pretty good so far
Jerry, thank you for the hardware durability testing. I am impressed on how it survived the bending almost and the burn test, pretty cool. I am a student (at home) software engineer and comp. sci person in the making and have been getting more deeper into programming books. I don't own a laptop, but something like this would be perfect for PDF's, eBooks, and it would replace my thousand of pages of paper notes I got laying around loose and bounded. Hopefully this goes on sale sooner or later like around $320 or less for the 16GB version. Good content as usual. 🙂
Always been impressed with e-ink devices and I enjoy my Kindle a lot. It looks like the stylus was quite responsive considering the low refresh rate of the screen. Thanks for another great video!
I love it when I just wanna watch a video but I get hit with 2 ads and then an ad that’s part of the video
I never know the display inside it is real ink type thing. I often think it's a LCD panel with dim brightness and matt glass over it. Thanks for this, now I too wanna buy a kindle
It’s actually quite cool seeing an eInk display being disassembled or rather broken down to see the insides, would love to see more eInk tests in the future when the tech becomes more advanced!
Love pretty much any video you do, from tech reviews to the wheelchair projects to diy solar. Thank you for all you put out into the world!
I like how the feet aren’t just glued on. I didn’t realize that was the case
Kinda cool how it has no refresh rate but it still draws really nicely
Thinking really hard about replacing my paperwhite 3 with this one. After all other upgraded versions this is the first one that offers something interesting.
As for last read book you asked about, somewhere around last week. All those ebook readers, not only kindle ones, are great things, if you enjoy reading and considering buying any, I would say its a great thing to have.
I've been doing more audiobooks than books lately. This E-Ink tablet is really interesting. I remember looking at a similar one that was also pretty expensive. Amazon might not be the first, but they're probably the first mainstream.
Forget the kindle, If you want a proper ereader get a kobo.
There never seems to be enough memory or expansion options on these things. I reckon Amazon are pulling an Apple game on this one.
Onyxboox makes the best devices.
@@paulmurgatroyd6372how much memory do you need on a device used for reading?
@@parkerwilkins5495 If I want to put every ebook I own and all the ones I will own, then it might work out to be a lot.
That aside, I don't know why they have arbitrary limits on the memory when an SD card socket costs about 50p.
Hi, thanks for showing what's inside this thing.
Wow, that scribe faired pretty well when bending
I’m excited for where e-ink tech goes! Colored e-ink obviously has a lot of potential as does note taking ability, but progress has been frustratingly slow. There are some interesting videos about why the progress has been so slow (I think @TechAltar has a video about this), but there is hope that progress could come faster! Nice work, Zack!
Awesome content as always. It's fascinating to me how e-ink technology is progressing.
What level would you rate titanium nibs that are made for this? I had it for a week but got scared and switched back to the Amazon official ones. Do you think in time it would create scratches on the display?
Dig into color e-ink next! Would love to see a teardown showdown between the BigMe inknote color and the BOOX tab ultra c.
I'm very impressed and satisfied by your teardowns than any other out there.Thanks man!
Love seeing art class come back! Who else wants to see art class come back on glass phones with level 6 deeper grooves? If they want to take away our scratch-able backs, we will adapt!
I love my Kindle from 2014 and I was just looking for a bigger display that would make studying form it easier
I've had problems reading black on white printed lettering my entire life. The centerpoint of my focus just blurs into a blown out highlight, rendering me blind to the specific word(s) I'm trying to read. As a kid, I learned to read through my peripheral vision, which ironically made me a speed reader in lower or reverse contrast scenarios, lol. Dark mode and reverse LCDs were a lifesaver for me. I'm sure that option will help a lot of people. Grayscale, inverted color, tactile matte screen, sounds like laying my eyes on a soft pillow. 😂
That was a very impressive bend test! I'd definitely consider getting one of those for myself when the price goes down as I do a lot of reading.