Bethesda has got to start including customer input as part of the development cycle. They need to be out here polling the audience and utilizing AB testing, not getting defensive and ignoring the clear priority of the customer. That’s how companies fail.
Bethesda has a no chance as long as Todd and Emile are still around. Todd doesn't want to make unique games, he just wants to make a copy of whatever he's into at the time. Like Lord of The Rings, Game of Thrones, and Star Wars. And Emile, do I even need to say anything? He's a terrible self absorbed writer who hates the fans for wanting to play fun games their way instead of worshiping his writing.
@@goatslayer3160 Speaking of copying....if you look at the Akila City concept art for Starfield, you will see that it was supposed to be a cold town set high in snowy mountains.But guess what game came out right when Bethesda was working on Akila City? RD2. A cowboy western town in a sci fi future doesn't really make a lot of sense.And guess what game came out around the time they were working on Neon City....Cyberpunk. Once you see it, it cannot be unseen.
They make games for themselves, otherwise they'd have chosen either of their blockbuster IPs that have even wowed fans with the most mediocre of schlock. But they chose starfield and we get to live with the repercussions of that decision. Probably til Xbox absorbs them at least lol
To be fair EA, Activision and Ubisoft have all completely ignored fans for 15 years now and they're thriving because everyone keeps shelling out money for shitty games
@@jimethota Tencent is actually in talks with Ubisoft to possibly buy them out in part because they’re doing so poorly, so it definitely does happen unfortunately. Could definitely see it happening with other companies if they don’t make changes. It sucks that those employees have to be worried about losing jobs because a few higher ups don’t have basic business acumen, the tech industry has been a mess the past few years with layoffs…
Fallout 4 was already a "previous gen" game, and Bethesda hasn't been anywhere close to state of the art since Skyrim. The real strength of the studio was always immersive world building. The humorous characters and stellar music also carried the games, but most of the credit obviously goes to the actors and the composer. The gameplay was passable at best, but the immersion was so great that players didn't mind.
Emil saying that people don’t care about the story in fallout 4 is endlessly frustrating. The only reason why people ignored the story, Emil, is because it was a god awful mess.
That incapsulates Emil perfectly, he's too prideful and greedy to realize people are skipping his story not because they want to but because it's boringly mediocre... If Emil doesn't and he won't self reflect, we'll never get anything remotely good from BGS as long as he's in the studio.
Honestly sometimes i don't really think the engine is the core problem, though i definitely think it adds to bethesda's overall problems, the world sizes are usually comically tiny when compared to the canon of the universes, and whilst i 100% think that having a lore-accurate sized elder scrolls or fallout would be more dreadful than fun to play, i don't think we need *entire* countries, but then again, at maximum we might be able to get 1 hold from skyrim stuffed inside the entire skyrim worldspace and chances are it would still be under-scaled when compared to the lore, and 1 city would for a lot of people be really disappointing, and even then, when we did get a proper scaled city in fallout 4 in the form of Boston, one entire spot of the city was so unstable it almost always guaranteed a crash, but then again, you can't really compare a compact urban jungle to a fantastical city that probably has one-floor buildings and is probably really open. Then you have the melee and magic and archery and stealth, all pretty undercooked systems, apart from funnily enough, archery. For melee i feel like it would be cool if they take inspiration from vermintide games or Kingdom Come, or even make their own combat system that has a bit more tactics or mechanics involved than "my sword deals more damage than your sword, and i have more health than you, so i win this fight." And the magic system could be improved by re-introducing the magic crafting system, because i find it pretty ironic that they wanted skyrim to be a power fantasy, yet removed one of the most power-fantasy friendly mechanics in TES games. And archery i think should have a system where the NPC's could maybe hear when the arrow goes off if they're close enough (because lets be honest, most people would really only use archery for stealth), and because i dont really know how else to handle the archery system, and for stealth, i guess making it so heavy armor makes it harder to be stealthy? Anyways, that's my opinion on what i think would help bethesda improve their games, and yes, i know that only like, 2% of the people who saw this comment will actually read it to the end. EDIT: Also the writing in the games is infamously comically bad, i'm not saying to get rid of Emil entirely, he came up with the dragon language, but i think hes better suited as a world builder or overall lore writer, not a full-on story writer.
It cannot be. Someone made the decision to use the engine. It's on the decision makers. If I don't put oil in my car it isn't the car's fault. Especially if I built skyrim with it! Molders are good mechanics and bethesda are bad engineers. Engine don't matter, it's a symptom at best.
If they swapped engines, no more physics simulation for every single item in the game. No more 1 million cheese wheels inside Breezehome. The people who argue the engine needs to be changed or whatever, do not consider the consequences of that change.
@@panzer00 and the mod-ability :/ I don't want them to change the engine but find ways around all the physics simulation causing issues.. like limiting it or something, I could care less about each item being able to fly around or float.. I just care about mods.
It is not the engine that holds bethesda back. It's bethesda. Morrowind did not have loading screens entering cities. Modders fixed many, many bugs. Modders removed loading screens separating cities and the open world in skyrim, added working ladders, drivable carriages, etc.. Modders added driveable vehicles to fallout nv. Even working co-op was added by modders. Heck, even full games much better than bethesda's are on the same engine, such as Enderal. The engine is not the problem; it is quite versatile. The problem is bethesda, their shoddy coders, and an awful writing team.
I heard a rumor that MS told them to let go of gamebryo and learn unreal 5 or just something modern and Beth said no I don't wanna 😢. Though I dont buy it, ms owns them so wouldn't they have final say
First person melee combat rarely feels good. Cyberpunk did improve it in the end with finisher moves that were satisfying. But starfield is atrocious for melee. They didn’t even implement 3rd person killcams/cinematic finisher moves that they had in Skyrim. Just lazy.
@@foxwithagun2540 I was the same but went back after the 2.0 update and it feels great now! Once you unlock the quick dash and slow time and further upgrades, it gets really fun
@@Multifidi20 exactly, Bethesda melee combat just seems to be swinging clubs until someone loses. I’d like to see a countering and depth system, and it’s got to feel like you’re actually holding a sword. These are the basics that you’d think would be a no brainer to implement but it’s Bethesda so who knows 🤷🏾
Bethesda have become so reliant on its modding community to improve and finish its games it no longer knows or wants to create its own content just look at skyrim without mods it still looks like the day it was made graphically but how many updates has that had????
@michaellane5381 if you call those graphics updates we'll good for you the game in vanilla looks the same it did in 2011 ribbons as ropes paper cut out chains zero mesh improvements with the same dirty textures everywhere
@@Vlad-ed6ts the characters look vastly different, they might be side-grades(I honestly prefer the original release at times), but they were changes... A waste of time but an alteration.
The games industry is the only industry that I know of where unfinished or broken products are acceptable. We are seeing a shift away from that acceptance by consumers but there are so many consumers within individual studios' markets who will unabashedly support their favorite studio, no matter what, that it will be a while before we see an industry wide standard and quality adherence. Imagine if every studio was held to the level of quality that PlayStation holds their studio's to. Comsumers have the power to push the industry in that direction.
My problem with the Witcher 3 is I have to play as Garalt. I have the same problem with Fallout 4 - I have to play as the character Bethesda wants me to play as, Nate or Nora. BGS ruined the suspension of disbelief in voicing Nate and Nora and forcing the narrative to be about finding their son. It makes it very difficult to roleplay someone who isn't Nate or Nora because the dialog is constantly bringing up Shawn. I have so many characters in Skyrim that are more than just a build and I don't have to become the Dragonborn, I can RP as a normal citizen of Skyrim or an assassin. There are moments when Dragons or the Dragonborn are brought up but it's rare, especially if you never speak to Balgruuf. Bethesda has fallen into the video game "RPG" trap where builds are "roleplay." Skyrim is one of the closest examples of a video game with true roleplay agency and then add mods to it. If TES 6 has a voiced protagonist, it will be a failure just in that design decision which departs from the established design I imagine most Elder Scrolls players want but aren't cognizant of.
@@Samurix16that literally makes no sense 🤦♂️ plus these two games cannot be compared as the both prioritise completely different things. It’s like comparing battlefield to cod, they may both be military shooters but both offer a different experience.
@broosewain1528 you must be drunk, you can compare battlefield to cod. And you can compare two action adventure games to each other. Skyrim isn't even an rpg. It's action adventure. You can bare role play anything other than a dragon born who uses magic and sword or archery. Witcher 3 action- good combat system and reasonably fun and challenging. Adventure- excellent story and writing . Skyrim- action- probably doesn't even count as a combat system just right click and left click till tour opponents health is lower than yours. Adventure - probably one of the weakest writing in gaming despite the expansive and amazing lore and predecessor games doing that well. It fails at both things it was meant to do right. Modders have been used to make the game playable though .
Bethesda is like your grandad who tells you that his way is the only way and these young whipper snappers and their new little engines and whatnot can’t possibly know what they’re doing.
They were never good in the first place. They got traction on the first Xbox by being one of the few open-world games available, right when gaming was undergoing its huge explosion in popularity. So it was many people's first exposure to fantasy gaming. They were moddable on PC when modding culture was at its peak. So it was lucky timing. Plus they coasted hard on Fallout, a great IP they acquired that was far beyond their league. The games were always outdated at launch, ugly, buggy, un-optimized and with poor writing. They were on the verge of bankruptcy after colossal blunders before Microsoft unfortunately bought them.
Inferior effort and or studio talent. Need technical and creative improvements. ES6 should be a strong GOTY candidate. Lots of time and money developing their most profitable IP. No excuses.
Given how they lost most of their veteran developers, i would say the same too. Their last TES lorehead Kurt Kuhlmann has left Bethesda literally a week after Starfield released, he was with Bethesda since '96 to '98 and returned in 2003 until 2023....
I miss that feeling of "wonder" and excitement that was around every corner that Bathesda was so great at bringing to their games. Also great video btw, keep it up!!
Running down the hill into Riverwood for the first time, adrenal pumping, and looking up and seeing on the opposite bank, a huge, black, gothic building towering over you and knowing one day you’re going to have to go in there.
I buy new games, but I usually shelf them after about 80 hours or so. However, I keep going back to mod and play Skyrim & Fallout for over a decade. Bethesda know this, and their games are still selling on Steam. I'm very thankful that they designed their games to be modded, otherwise I would surely lose interest in gaming. Looking forward to ES6 and F5😊
Starfield was the first single player RPG I had played since Ocarina of Time (or maybe FFX counts even though it's a turn-based team). Still, I was BLOWN AWAY with what Starfield was, but that's because I don't play modern games. I play Diablo 3 over and over every season. I play the mid-aughts LEGO franchise games over and over. I play World of Warcraft (but hate any xpac that came out after about 2012). I had no idea a game could do ANYTHING like Starfield. I liked it so much that I went and got Skyrim... and... it was the same game, but medieval and more customized, which makes sense because in the medieval times very few people traveled that far from home anyway unless they were part of an army. AWESOME! I love medieval games!!! So recently I started looking at Fallout, because clearly I *am* the kind of player the classic Bethesda format is for. I think I might give FO4 a try too since Boston is my favorite city in the world. I'm SO excited to see a whole different style/genre of intricate and hand-crafted wonders courtesy of the nuclear shenanigans. But yeah, compared to Skyrim and Fallout, I understand why people who *HAVE* been playing these games for years already desperately wanted innovation on a theme (and I completely agree they needed an updated engine). I'm the odd one out here just picking up a Bethesda game for the first time. But I've been watching and waiting for YEARS for a good space RPG that wasn't all cartoony. For me, it fits the bill, and I'm going to keep playing it because I truly enjoy it, bugs, empty space, loading screens, and all. It sucks so many people were disappointed by it, but there are a lot of us out here who are having the time of our lives.
Still think there's a place for Bethesda. You mentioned The Witcher 3 blowing Skyrim out the water, but it's apples to oranges. The reason I still love Skyrim is the ability to craft whatever character build I want and explore the world how I see fit. You can explore in the Witcher 3 but ultimately you're just gerralt. There's a big gap in the market for a game like skyrim
Honestly when you compare Witcher 3's world design to Skyrim's, they are close but Witcher 3 still wins, but Starfield's procedurally generated worlds vs any other open world is just a beat down.
@@Vert_GreenHeart yeah I'm a fan of both games, I just think they fulfill slightly different wishes. I wanted to like starfield when it launched but I just didn't enjoy it. It's soulless
I didn't play RDR2 until 2 years after its released. I was always reading and hearing comments how players were now spoiled and couldn't go back to other games. I always asked myself what was so good about a game with cowboys and the old west. It sounded so boring :-s How wrong I was :(( I absolutely love The Witcher 3 because of their immersive questing/side quests(and GWENT of course) but IMO RDR2 is just beyond something so amazing like Witcher 3. That is how good of a game it is. Edit: I honestly think Bethesda is afraid of releasing TES6 because of RDR2, The Witcher 3 and a few others out there, but those 2 are their biggest fear and TES6 is Bethesda's last chance to stay in business. If they fail, that will be it for them.
Bethesda Game Studios has gotten away with their last 2 games being mediocre to bad because their prior games were actually good and had established themselves a huge following. But all that good will and benefit of the doubt people have been giving them is gone. If they were to ever release another Starfield it would flop, as evident with how many people bought the “Shattered Space” dlc. Go look at the comments section on any Shattered Space video, there’s either one comment or most of the time there’s not a single comment discussing the game. People are completely disconnected from BGS games these days
Apparently, there's a Fallout sale over on Steam, with up to 70% off (per the banner)...I can say that New Vegas is from 50 to 60% off (depending on whether you buy the base game only, or the package with the expansions... ...a question from an RPG player (Dragon Quest maven and Final Fantasy fan - I do not enjoy first person shooting at all) - is New Vegas not that bad with the shooting, so that I can overlook it somewhat because the story is the best of all Bethesda Fallouts... ...and more to the point, is there a "Fallout New Vegas Modding for Dummies" somewhere (since I'm very used to not needing to mod anything with Dragon Quest and Final Fantasy, since, at least up to Dragon Quest VIII and Final Fantasy VII, the games haven't had any major bugs, just very minor and barely noticeable occasional graphical glitches)? (And yeah, sticking it to Todd and Emil by buying New Vegas, and ostentatiously NOT buying F3, F4, or F76, is topmost in my mind!)
Thanks for keeping up to date with Bethesda and yes please make more videos on it. Just because I want them to succeed with ES6 but I’m so sad to say that it will be the last chance I’m giving them. I loved Elder Scrolls, and I’m not much of a Fallout fan(I know, don’t kill me please😂) so ES6 is my only hope left. If it’s bad then I’ll be looking for greener pastures 😭
You call it hate, i call it passion for once beloved studio... Do you think Bethesda would improve if we kept buying their games without a single drop of complain about their games ? No, seriously do you believe that we should always be positive and never complain ?
Starfield biggest failure was putting procedural generation on every planet. It's completely immersion and exploration breaking to land on what's supposed to be a remote world and see the same things you saw on the last supposedly remote world. How can I be an explorer when I land on an Uncharted planet and there's already some dudes who have set up their own Homestead or drilling station?
Procedurally generated open world can be done right, despite the voxel based, i find Minecraft worlds so captivatingly immersive, No Man's Sky's planets are sometimes hit and miss, mostly misses tbh but occasionally you land on such a beautiful place in a planet you'd want a whole game made in that area.
They should stick to what they know as Emil says (write what you know). Elder scrolls and Fallout (which was acquired). The writing isn’t interesting enough to branch out.
Bethesda went....adrift from fallout 4 to starfield i see it like content and easter eggs = grain of salt. If you throw 5million grains of salt in a square foot it will be filled with enjoyement but, throw that same amount in 50 feet it WILL feel empty and tedious
I don't think it's the engine really, I just think they need to focus more on what their fans love and Starfield was something new they tried and it failed because that specific type of game DOESNT WORK IN THAT ENGINE so sure it's the engine if we only look at Starfield but not overall, because if they swapped it would just cause more issues imo.
I would be curious to see a video from you on how Starfield’s main story or stories could’ve been written better (if you’re up for it). Or even just a video on what Starfield should’ve / could’ve been gameplay-wise. I think we know Starfield’s shortcomings but hearing how people would’ve done it differently is always interesting. I actually don’t mind seeing more Bethesda videos if you’re able to take fresh evaluations each time or as news comes out. The final straw for me was when I saw that Bethesda literally copy pasted all the temples where you get your space Jesus powers, they were literally all the EXACT SAME BORING MINIGAME. Even Skyrim had multiple methods & varied locations for getting the Dragonborn Shouts 🤦🏻♂️
Very simple. Don't make 1000s of Planets for one. Set the setting to just the Solar System with only 8 Fully Handcrafted Truly HUGE Planets. Since Starfield's setting is about "NASA Punk", And let the story center around Humanity's First Discovery and Contact of a Alien Civilization. End the game once the Alien Civilization is discovered to whet players appetties for Starfield 2 where said Aliens can be a Playable Race. Anything is better than this "Space Magic Sh*t" that Starfield is doing now.
they have evolved at a snails pace. and realistically fallout 3 and new vegas outside of nostalgia have aged pretty poorly by todays standards. I replayed new vegas recently and i love the setting and story for new vegas but actually playing it is pretty boring.
New Atlantis was so barren and there was no map at launch? there are no excuses for that. The npc don't react to the player at all. They just stare at you like your in a zoo. Its the foundation of bethesda games that is failing. if the cities in TES6 are barren like new atlantis i will throw up.
This was a good video❤ something I wonder about is how Microsoft's acquisition of Bethesda has affected the games and development, how much of starfield could be Microsoft's fault? Maybe none, maybe some.
@@jfkst1 Eesh, thats a good point, I dont think they would directly dissolve Bethy, but I do feel like too much major corp in a company does destroy it quicker.. Like ubisoft, or Sony with Helldivers.
Microsoft is famous for having a very gentle hand to allow their properties to produce without an overbearing boss. The problem is that sometimes you need to do a little tough love to get a better product made. Bethesda is so high on their own supply and protected by the parent company that they arent seeing what is actually happening with their games with customer feedback. The only fault Microsoft has that I can tell is that they have let the kids have the run of the house, and they need to be put back in place. Before Microsoft, Bethesda was on this same track anyway so its just been more of the same.
@@davidmacy411 I could see that, ZeniMax owned Bethesda Softworks until 2021, and though Doom, Wolfenstien, and Skyrim were great, the later games like Redfall were a bit of an issue. Maybe its just the flow of things? Like games get better, then get a little worse, then get better again? Maybe its our fault and we just have a lot of expectations and nostalgia? The main guy on top is Phill Spencer, hes probably the one to please. I do worry though about Microsoft buying Activision and blizzard, monopolies arnt good for industries that can push agendas. Is there any resource that talks about Microsoft as an employer? What they are like?
You make it seem that F3 was the last good Fallout. I don't know why Fallout fans hate 4. It is my favorite. It is the only game I ever played for years. I squeezed 5 years out of that game modded! It had the most replay, humor and the best DLC'c. Starfield has gotten a bad rap. It's a good game. It just doesn't have the replay or F4 and they screwed up the DLC. They should offer a new free DLC to get loyalty back. As someone who preordered I feel like I will not buy anymore DLC's after Shat Turd Space.
Judging by the age of your RUclips account you must be in your mid to late 30's possibly early 40's, you ought to know better for someone who was around Bethesda for that long. Just out of sheer curiousity; does the name Kurt Kuhlmann or Michael Kirkebride ring any bells ? and if so what are your thoughts about the two ?
Bethesda is tone deaf and completely ignores the fanbase. As evident in yesterday’s “Fallout Day” event Bethesda hyped up for the last week only to talk about Fallout 76 for 20 minutes. All they care about is trying to reach the biggest audience possible. But in the process they’re just making extremely bland games that few end up enjoying. The only reason 76 has managed to survive is because Fallout has an insanely massive fanbase, and while they brag about 76s numbers the truth is that game is HEAVILY underperforming given the size of the Fallout community. It safe to say 75% of the fanbase is completely uninterested in Fallout 76, yet if you hear BGS talk it’s the latest craze everyone’s going wild over. Fallout 76 does have a loyal fanbase but the Fallout IP in general is under performing because 3/4 of the fanbase are alienated by 76 being the only new Fallout experience for the last decade with no signs of another single player Fallout coming anytime soon.
Lol that meme in the beginning perfectly describes bethesda. I don't blame them though they will still make tons of money either way. Bethesda fan boys will always come in clutch and mod their games for eternity.
So sick of hearing that their engine is the problem from people who 100% know nothing about their engine. Their engine could be completely capable but is just not being used well.
The engine they personally use is horribly unoptimized, i dabbled in Creation Kit while modding Skyrim and Fallout 4 for many hours, while it is very suitable for their games, one can't deny how unoptimized it is, they could make it better but they lack the skills or just don't want to waste more time improving their engine and that reflects poorly on everything they do. tl:dr: they just too lazy to make it any better.
@@Vert_GreenHeart "they just too lazy to make it any better" And THAT is the real problem. Bethesda's hardcore fans have let them get away with this crap for so long, they don't need to try harder.
@@Martial-Mat Not anymore though, i feel like the community as a whole has riled up against Bethesda for once, i mean even Bethesda shills like MrMattyPlays can't help but be disappointed with them.
FromSoftware is ahead of Bethesda really? Have you seen Elden Ring and their hundreds of re-used assests? Now don't get me wrong, I loved Elden Ring, and I even agree with your title but just not with FromSoftware.
You couldn’t be more off. Bethesda needs to stick to what they’re known for. We WANT more of the same. It works. Hand crafted and rich. Starfield failed because they tried something new. No personal touch. We do NOT need them switching up the dojo anymore than they already have.
Bethesda is a studio in deep decline and by the time ES6 comes out it will face being compared to Witcher 4. I don't think that's something Bethesda will survive or maybe Avowed will do the job.
The Engine Is Fine, within the hard limitations the code base of Creation has baked into it. Modders accomplish projects Todd dismisses, like make a Fallout game outside America. Bethesda simply doesn't have enough creative talent - or the free-will of that specific talent - to make a great IP from scratch; Starfield is proof that Bethesda simply cannot create fun new ideas, Starfield's nested multiverse hard-sci-fi premise would have only been interesting during the infancy of Real World America's Space Race, and is only palatable to people whose only exposure to exploration games *is* Bethesda Games.
CD going with Undreal Engine is because all the poeple who knew how to work on it left, they are stuck with DEI hires and UE5 is easier to learn to these "knew poeple"
The Witcher 3 is not a roleplaying video game - we have to play as Geralt. I do not have to be the Dragonborn in Skyrim. I can make whoever I want to make. With mods, I can start Skyrim wherever I want to and never even speak to Balgruuf. I can start Vanilla Skyrim and just not report that Helgen was attacked by a dragon. I can be a farmer, a miner, a hermit, a bandit, a thief, an assassin, a vampire, a lycan, a holy warrior etc, etc, etc. The possibilities are _almost_ endless in Skyrim, add mods and it is endless. I really thought that Bethesda would code more possibilities and agency in questlines but either they lack the talent to do so, they dont want to do it, or it is impossible to do so. Instead, we got a voiced protagonist in Fallout 4 that shoves Shawn in your face every other dialog option and we got an MMO with zero roleplay in Fallout 76 and we got an action adventure fps with ZERO build diversity in Starfield. TES 6 will not have what I want it to have, which is more roleplay agency and less railroading.
The Witcher 3 is absolutely a roleplaying game. Being less open-ended in some respects, like your character's appearance and backstory, allows the game have deeper choices and consequences in the quests/story. It's a tradeoff that Bethesda and CDPR both make, as you mentioned with FO4 and Starfield. But saying one of the best RPGs ever made isn't an RPG is wild.
@fix-error we have fundamentally different definitions of roleplay then. If I could make my own witcher and it was 1pp with the dialog agency, which affects the story and future encounters, I would be more inclined to agree with you.
@@panzer00 I agree, it sounds like my definition of an RPG is less specific than yours. I see it more as an umbrella term for games where players assume a role and can choose how/when they approach certain objectives. Strong narrative focus is also important, I think. I'm curious what other categories games like Mass Effect fall under for you. If not an RPG, what would you call it?
I'd rather play as a predefined character with good writing than a undefined character with boring writing, the real fun is striking a balance between the two, something like Fallout New Vegas where you are courier, you did some things before and have some sort of backstory but still a blank slate when playing him/her.
@Vert_GreenHeart I just don't think playing a predefined character whom the story is written around and predetermined is roleplay. The world exists and consequences will happen regardless of my intervention but if I choose to intervene, my actions _could_ fundamentally alter those consequences and the perception of the world around me; it's ultimately a limitation of what is possible to code while maintaining functionality. My idea of roleplay might never be possible in the context of video games. I believe that AI could get us closer to that, though - altering code in real time as a response to the player characters' actions where the AI plays the role of DM in real time. If that is is possible, is an entirely different problem. Or AI writing an infinite amount of possibilities that when met trigger unique consequences. Developers could leverage AI for roleplay agency.
They lost me right after the last DLC for Fallout 4, and that game is unplayable and unenjoyable without mods. And Fartfield should be the best game they ever made? Todd's baby? Kiss my ass, Crapthesda. I thought the same thing when you released Toddshit 76, the worst and most greedy game I've ever seen, but this time I mean it. I would prefer to swim into your last whale trap than eating Toddfart 76 in space, the saddest and most boring SF universe I've ever seen in 55 years of my life.
Starfield - and the people behind it - really do have a lot to answer for. All that time. All that money. All those promises. And we get a game which is about as fun as a colonoscopy and immersive as a bird bath. What makes it worse is that this is coming from the maker of one of the greatest games ever made, Skyrim. Something is going very very wrong in Bethesda IF they really believe that Starfield is a great game. Personally I think Todd and others must know that it’s garbage. The real question is what are they going to do next and how will it impact TES? The prospect of the Bethesda cast behind Starfield being let loose on the next TES is chilling. Personally I don’t want to be asking Jarl Baalgruf what his preferred pronouns are, do you?
Bethesda had the good fortune of having 2 IPs with established lore and world building already complete elder scrolls fallout both of which had nothing to do with Todd Howard or Emil papayago... now that they are left to their own....skills... we are starting to see just how mediocre they both are, especially Emil's god awful writing skills. the degradation is almost comically visible since oblivion and fallout3, you can almost taste the decay of both IPs as they were whittled down by Todd's 0 innovation approach and Emil's high-school level writing acumen
Couldn't have said it any better... Starfield was the game to show the world they can create something amazing from nothing, but in reality Emil Papayago😅has proven himself to be incompetent and inadequate to make games without already established lore and loremasters helping him. For Skyrim succeeded despite the writing NOT because of the writing, but Bethesda and Emil specifically think they owe the success of Skyrim to him and how awesome his writing is...
@@Gabe_-pw7xv Technically he was in charge of printing CD's or floppydisks back then ? can't remember... Either ways it wasn't until Redguard game he started game production and it ended with Skyrim sadly. Now he's a full-time CEO.
So glad people are finally mentioning his name openly, for so long i saw this idiot and felt like i was the only one thinking this guy is a total clown.
Honestly, I am done with wanting Bethesda to succeed... their laziness and contempt for their fans' legitimate complaints are their only 2 traits I can see growing in recent years. I would like to see their bankrupcy and have other developers tke over thier IPs. Sorry, not sorry, but Bethesda is trash... They have no one to blame, but themselves...
Bethesda has got to start including customer input as part of the development cycle. They need to be out here polling the audience and utilizing AB testing, not getting defensive and ignoring the clear priority of the customer. That’s how companies fail.
Bethesda has a no chance as long as Todd and Emile are still around. Todd doesn't want to make unique games, he just wants to make a copy of whatever he's into at the time. Like Lord of The Rings, Game of Thrones, and Star Wars. And Emile, do I even need to say anything? He's a terrible self absorbed writer who hates the fans for wanting to play fun games their way instead of worshiping his writing.
@@goatslayer3160 Speaking of copying....if you look at the Akila City concept art for Starfield, you will see that it was supposed to be a cold town set high in snowy mountains.But guess what game came out right when Bethesda was working on Akila City? RD2. A cowboy western town in a sci fi future doesn't really make a lot of sense.And guess what game came out around the time they were working on Neon City....Cyberpunk. Once you see it, it cannot be unseen.
They make games for themselves, otherwise they'd have chosen either of their blockbuster IPs that have even wowed fans with the most mediocre of schlock. But they chose starfield and we get to live with the repercussions of that decision. Probably til Xbox absorbs them at least lol
To be fair EA, Activision and Ubisoft have all completely ignored fans for 15 years now and they're thriving because everyone keeps shelling out money for shitty games
@@jimethota Tencent is actually in talks with Ubisoft to possibly buy them out in part because they’re doing so poorly, so it definitely does happen unfortunately. Could definitely see it happening with other companies if they don’t make changes. It sucks that those employees have to be worried about losing jobs because a few higher ups don’t have basic business acumen, the tech industry has been a mess the past few years with layoffs…
Fallout 4 was already a "previous gen" game, and Bethesda hasn't been anywhere close to state of the art since Skyrim. The real strength of the studio was always immersive world building. The humorous characters and stellar music also carried the games, but most of the credit obviously goes to the actors and the composer. The gameplay was passable at best, but the immersion was so great that players didn't mind.
Skyrim was behind for it's time as well.
The engine does not excuse creative bankruptcy.
They didn't stagnate, they regressed.
Emil saying that people don’t care about the story in fallout 4 is endlessly frustrating. The only reason why people ignored the story, Emil, is because it was a god awful mess.
That incapsulates Emil perfectly, he's too prideful and greedy to realize people are skipping his story not because they want to but because it's boringly mediocre... If Emil doesn't and he won't self reflect, we'll never get anything remotely good from BGS as long as he's in the studio.
Honestly sometimes i don't really think the engine is the core problem, though i definitely think it adds to bethesda's overall problems, the world sizes are usually comically tiny when compared to the canon of the universes, and whilst i 100% think that having a lore-accurate sized elder scrolls or fallout would be more dreadful than fun to play, i don't think we need *entire* countries, but then again, at maximum we might be able to get 1 hold from skyrim stuffed inside the entire skyrim worldspace and chances are it would still be under-scaled when compared to the lore, and 1 city would for a lot of people be really disappointing, and even then, when we did get a proper scaled city in fallout 4 in the form of Boston, one entire spot of the city was so unstable it almost always guaranteed a crash, but then again, you can't really compare a compact urban jungle to a fantastical city that probably has one-floor buildings and is probably really open. Then you have the melee and magic and archery and stealth, all pretty undercooked systems, apart from funnily enough, archery. For melee i feel like it would be cool if they take inspiration from vermintide games or Kingdom Come, or even make their own combat system that has a bit more tactics or mechanics involved than "my sword deals more damage than your sword, and i have more health than you, so i win this fight." And the magic system could be improved by re-introducing the magic crafting system, because i find it pretty ironic that they wanted skyrim to be a power fantasy, yet removed one of the most power-fantasy friendly mechanics in TES games. And archery i think should have a system where the NPC's could maybe hear when the arrow goes off if they're close enough (because lets be honest, most people would really only use archery for stealth), and because i dont really know how else to handle the archery system, and for stealth, i guess making it so heavy armor makes it harder to be stealthy? Anyways, that's my opinion on what i think would help bethesda improve their games, and yes, i know that only like, 2% of the people who saw this comment will actually read it to the end.
EDIT: Also the writing in the games is infamously comically bad, i'm not saying to get rid of Emil entirely, he came up with the dragon language, but i think hes better suited as a world builder or overall lore writer, not a full-on story writer.
It cannot be. Someone made the decision to use the engine. It's on the decision makers.
If I don't put oil in my car it isn't the car's fault. Especially if I built skyrim with it!
Molders are good mechanics and bethesda are bad engineers.
Engine don't matter, it's a symptom at best.
If they swapped engines, no more physics simulation for every single item in the game. No more 1 million cheese wheels inside Breezehome.
The people who argue the engine needs to be changed or whatever, do not consider the consequences of that change.
@@panzer00 Also forgot about the physics the engine is capable of entirely, i feel like they really should utilize it more in the future games.
@@panzer00this is nonsense. Bethesda licenses the havok physics engine and slaps it on top of Gambyro, they didn’t make a physics engine
@@panzer00 and the mod-ability :/ I don't want them to change the engine but find ways around all the physics simulation causing issues.. like limiting it or something, I could care less about each item being able to fly around or float.. I just care about mods.
It is not the engine that holds bethesda back. It's bethesda. Morrowind did not have loading screens entering cities. Modders fixed many, many bugs. Modders removed loading screens separating cities and the open world in skyrim, added working ladders, drivable carriages, etc.. Modders added driveable vehicles to fallout nv. Even working co-op was added by modders. Heck, even full games much better than bethesda's are on the same engine, such as Enderal.
The engine is not the problem; it is quite versatile. The problem is bethesda, their shoddy coders, and an awful writing team.
Bethesdas new corporate overlords should force them to have obsidian make a spinoff
I heard a rumor that MS told them to let go of gamebryo and learn unreal 5 or just something modern and Beth said no I don't wanna 😢. Though I dont buy it, ms owns them so wouldn't they have final say
TES6 needs melee combat that feels more satisfying and a really immersive world. Cyberpunk should be the blueprint
Fat chance with the grossly outdated Creation Engine.
I could never get into Cyberpunks combat, honestly.
First person melee combat rarely feels good. Cyberpunk did improve it in the end with finisher moves that were satisfying. But starfield is atrocious for melee. They didn’t even implement 3rd person killcams/cinematic finisher moves that they had in Skyrim. Just lazy.
@@foxwithagun2540 I was the same but went back after the 2.0 update and it feels great now! Once you unlock the quick dash and slow time and further upgrades, it gets really fun
@@Multifidi20 exactly, Bethesda melee combat just seems to be swinging clubs until someone loses. I’d like to see a countering and depth system, and it’s got to feel like you’re actually holding a sword. These are the basics that you’d think would be a no brainer to implement but it’s Bethesda so who knows 🤷🏾
“What went wrong”… Todd getting too much control is what went bloody wrong
The opposite is happening
Todd not leading and Emil being lazy is what went wrong.
Todd is no longer in charge because the algorithm has taken over ;)
Bethesda have become so reliant on its modding community to improve and finish its games it no longer knows or wants to create its own content just look at skyrim without mods it still looks like the day it was made graphically but how many updates has that had????
It has had like 3 graphics upgrades from Bethesda, not counting mods, but breaking them.
@michaellane5381 if you call those graphics updates we'll good for you the game in vanilla looks the same it did in 2011 ribbons as ropes paper cut out chains zero mesh improvements with the same dirty textures everywhere
@@Vlad-ed6ts the characters look vastly different, they might be side-grades(I honestly prefer the original release at times), but they were changes... A waste of time but an alteration.
Starfield is unacceptable bad for a game with 200 million USD budget and active development since the end of 2015 (by Todd's words)
The games industry is the only industry that I know of where unfinished or broken products are acceptable.
We are seeing a shift away from that acceptance by consumers but there are so many consumers within individual studios' markets who will unabashedly support their favorite studio, no matter what, that it will be a while before we see an industry wide standard and quality adherence.
Imagine if every studio was held to the level of quality that PlayStation holds their studio's to. Comsumers have the power to push the industry in that direction.
Idk man, we've been waiting for tes6 for over a decade now. I think it is too late in production to reevaluate the games direction.
The Witcher three is an objectively better game than Skyrim but I still enjoy my time with Skyrim more.
My problem with the Witcher 3 is I have to play as Garalt. I have the same problem with Fallout 4 - I have to play as the character Bethesda wants me to play as, Nate or Nora. BGS ruined the suspension of disbelief in voicing Nate and Nora and forcing the narrative to be about finding their son. It makes it very difficult to roleplay someone who isn't Nate or Nora because the dialog is constantly bringing up Shawn. I have so many characters in Skyrim that are more than just a build and I don't have to become the Dragonborn, I can RP as a normal citizen of Skyrim or an assassin. There are moments when Dragons or the Dragonborn are brought up but it's rare, especially if you never speak to Balgruuf.
Bethesda has fallen into the video game "RPG" trap where builds are "roleplay." Skyrim is one of the closest examples of a video game with true roleplay agency and then add mods to it.
If TES 6 has a voiced protagonist, it will be a failure just in that design decision which departs from the established design I imagine most Elder Scrolls players want but aren't cognizant of.
@@panzer00 I couldn't agree more.
That’s definitely fair to say!
@@Samurix16that literally makes no sense 🤦♂️ plus these two games cannot be compared as the both prioritise completely different things. It’s like comparing battlefield to cod, they may both be military shooters but both offer a different experience.
@broosewain1528 you must be drunk, you can compare battlefield to cod. And you can compare two action adventure games to each other. Skyrim isn't even an rpg. It's action adventure. You can bare role play anything other than a dragon born who uses magic and sword or archery. Witcher 3 action- good combat system and reasonably fun and challenging. Adventure- excellent story and writing . Skyrim- action- probably doesn't even count as a combat system just right click and left click till tour opponents health is lower than yours. Adventure - probably one of the weakest writing in gaming despite the expansive and amazing lore and predecessor games doing that well. It fails at both things it was meant to do right. Modders have been used to make the game playable though .
Bethesda is like your grandad who tells you that his way is the only way and these young whipper snappers and their new little engines and whatnot can’t possibly know what they’re doing.
They were never good in the first place. They got traction on the first Xbox by being one of the few open-world games available, right when gaming was undergoing its huge explosion in popularity. So it was many people's first exposure to fantasy gaming. They were moddable on PC when modding culture was at its peak. So it was lucky timing. Plus they coasted hard on Fallout, a great IP they acquired that was far beyond their league. The games were always outdated at launch, ugly, buggy, un-optimized and with poor writing. They were on the verge of bankruptcy after colossal blunders before Microsoft unfortunately bought them.
Inferior effort and or studio talent. Need technical and creative improvements. ES6 should be a strong GOTY candidate. Lots of time and money developing their most profitable IP. No excuses.
Crossroads? Seems like Bethesda is way beyond the point of no return.
Given how they lost most of their veteran developers, i would say the same too. Their last TES lorehead Kurt Kuhlmann has left Bethesda literally a week after Starfield released, he was with Bethesda since '96 to '98 and returned in 2003 until 2023....
The thing I always find amazing is that Witcher 3 and cyberpunk came from the same studio. They are vastly different games.
While i understand cd project red's move to unreal I must admit I will miss the Red Engine. It can be drop dead gorgeous with good hardware.
I miss that feeling of "wonder" and excitement that was around every corner that Bathesda was so great at bringing to their games. Also great video btw, keep it up!!
Couldn't agree more! Thanks you very much!
Haven't seen that from bethesda since oblivion, fallout 3, and fallout new vegas.
Running down the hill into Riverwood for the first time, adrenal pumping, and looking up and seeing on the opposite bank, a huge, black, gothic building towering over you and knowing one day you’re going to have to go in there.
I buy new games, but I usually shelf them after about 80 hours or so. However, I keep going back to mod and play Skyrim & Fallout for over a decade. Bethesda know this, and their games are still selling on Steam. I'm very thankful that they designed their games to be modded, otherwise I would surely lose interest in gaming. Looking forward to ES6 and F5😊
There will be no changes until top management is retired.
starfield was so BORING. The writing was for a 6 year old
Starfield was the first single player RPG I had played since Ocarina of Time (or maybe FFX counts even though it's a turn-based team). Still, I was BLOWN AWAY with what Starfield was, but that's because I don't play modern games. I play Diablo 3 over and over every season. I play the mid-aughts LEGO franchise games over and over. I play World of Warcraft (but hate any xpac that came out after about 2012). I had no idea a game could do ANYTHING like Starfield.
I liked it so much that I went and got Skyrim... and... it was the same game, but medieval and more customized, which makes sense because in the medieval times very few people traveled that far from home anyway unless they were part of an army. AWESOME! I love medieval games!!! So recently I started looking at Fallout, because clearly I *am* the kind of player the classic Bethesda format is for. I think I might give FO4 a try too since Boston is my favorite city in the world. I'm SO excited to see a whole different style/genre of intricate and hand-crafted wonders courtesy of the nuclear shenanigans.
But yeah, compared to Skyrim and Fallout, I understand why people who *HAVE* been playing these games for years already desperately wanted innovation on a theme (and I completely agree they needed an updated engine). I'm the odd one out here just picking up a Bethesda game for the first time. But I've been watching and waiting for YEARS for a good space RPG that wasn't all cartoony. For me, it fits the bill, and I'm going to keep playing it because I truly enjoy it, bugs, empty space, loading screens, and all. It sucks so many people were disappointed by it, but there are a lot of us out here who are having the time of our lives.
It almost feels unfair to compare other games to RDR2... the game is (almost) perfect, a complete masterpiece
It is boring with zero gameplay innovation, the only one thing that is cool in rdr2 is an immersion
@@EkoFranko Completely disagree w/ that statement.. but that's why they make more than one type of game 😉
Still think there's a place for Bethesda. You mentioned The Witcher 3 blowing Skyrim out the water, but it's apples to oranges. The reason I still love Skyrim is the ability to craft whatever character build I want and explore the world how I see fit. You can explore in the Witcher 3 but ultimately you're just gerralt. There's a big gap in the market for a game like skyrim
Yeah you’re so right about that. Love that analogy
Honestly when you compare Witcher 3's world design to Skyrim's, they are close but Witcher 3 still wins, but Starfield's procedurally generated worlds vs any other open world is just a beat down.
@@Vert_GreenHeart yeah I'm a fan of both games, I just think they fulfill slightly different wishes. I wanted to like starfield when it launched but I just didn't enjoy it. It's soulless
CDPR are in trouble now days cant imagine witcher 4 will be anywhere nr as good as the 3rd one
I didn't play RDR2 until 2 years after its released. I was always reading and hearing comments how players were now spoiled and couldn't go back to other games. I always asked myself what was so good about a game with cowboys and the old west. It sounded so boring :-s How wrong I was :(( I absolutely love The Witcher 3 because of their immersive questing/side quests(and GWENT of course) but IMO RDR2 is just beyond something so amazing like Witcher 3. That is how good of a game it is.
Edit: I honestly think Bethesda is afraid of releasing TES6 because of RDR2, The Witcher 3 and a few others out there, but those 2 are their biggest fear and TES6 is Bethesda's last chance to stay in business. If they fail, that will be it for them.
Bethesda Game Studios has gotten away with their last 2 games being mediocre to bad because their prior games were actually good and had established themselves a huge following. But all that good will and benefit of the doubt people have been giving them is gone. If they were to ever release another Starfield it would flop, as evident with how many people bought the “Shattered Space” dlc. Go look at the comments section on any Shattered Space video, there’s either one comment or most of the time there’s not a single comment discussing the game. People are completely disconnected from BGS games these days
Honestly I don't even care about TES6 anymore, it's fizzled out for me and I'd rather move on to new things
Apparently, there's a Fallout sale over on Steam, with up to 70% off (per the banner)...I can say that New Vegas is from 50 to 60% off (depending on whether you buy the base game only, or the package with the expansions...
...a question from an RPG player (Dragon Quest maven and Final Fantasy fan - I do not enjoy first person shooting at all) - is New Vegas not that bad with the shooting, so that I can overlook it somewhat because the story is the best of all Bethesda Fallouts...
...and more to the point, is there a "Fallout New Vegas Modding for Dummies" somewhere (since I'm very used to not needing to mod anything with Dragon Quest and Final Fantasy, since, at least up to Dragon Quest VIII and Final Fantasy VII, the games haven't had any major bugs, just very minor and barely noticeable occasional graphical glitches)?
(And yeah, sticking it to Todd and Emil by buying New Vegas, and ostentatiously NOT buying F3, F4, or F76, is topmost in my mind!)
And here I am still enjoying Fallout 76 (4200 hours).
I like Fallout 76 also but it is not a roleplaying game.
@@panzer00 it has roleplaying elements lol
Some people just like watching Paint dry. 🙂
@eldonb5131 wtf are 'roleplay elements'?
@@panzer00 hmmm id say elements of roleplay...
Thanks for keeping up to date with Bethesda and yes please make more videos on it. Just because I want them to succeed with ES6 but I’m so sad to say that it will be the last chance I’m giving them. I loved Elder Scrolls, and I’m not much of a Fallout fan(I know, don’t kill me please😂) so ES6 is my only hope left. If it’s bad then I’ll be looking for greener pastures 😭
The amount of hate this game gets for clickbait is laughable. Its a decent game. Has room for improvement, but by no means bad.
You call it hate, i call it passion for once beloved studio... Do you think Bethesda would improve if we kept buying their games without a single drop of complain about their games ? No, seriously do you believe that we should always be positive and never complain ?
They got left behind? I absolutely love every game they released since Morrowind.
You have very poor tastes in games. Perhaps Hello Kitty Island Adventure will also appeal to you? You'll love it too. 🙂
You sound like a complete fucking fool
Starfield biggest failure was putting procedural generation on every planet. It's completely immersion and exploration breaking to land on what's supposed to be a remote world and see the same things you saw on the last supposedly remote world.
How can I be an explorer when I land on an Uncharted planet and there's already some dudes who have set up their own Homestead or drilling station?
Procedurally generated open world can be done right, despite the voxel based, i find Minecraft worlds so captivatingly immersive, No Man's Sky's planets are sometimes hit and miss, mostly misses tbh but occasionally you land on such a beautiful place in a planet you'd want a whole game made in that area.
stream-lining really means, let's do less work or we'll half-assed this ,it's just laziness
According to Bethesda, improvement means "let's put an algorithm in here that does the job for us."
@@vanbolko4620 ur ,absolutely right!
They should stick to what they know as Emil says (write what you know). Elder scrolls and Fallout (which was acquired). The writing isn’t interesting enough to branch out.
Bethesda went....adrift from fallout 4 to starfield i see it like content and easter eggs = grain of salt. If you throw 5million grains of salt in a square foot it will be filled with enjoyement but, throw that same amount in 50 feet it WILL feel empty and tedious
demon's crest has a better story than starfield and its just a sidescroller for super nintendo
I don't think it's the engine really, I just think they need to focus more on what their fans love and Starfield was something new they tried and it failed because that specific type of game DOESNT WORK IN THAT ENGINE so sure it's the engine if we only look at Starfield but not overall, because if they swapped it would just cause more issues imo.
I would be curious to see a video from you on how Starfield’s main story or stories could’ve been written better (if you’re up for it). Or even just a video on what Starfield should’ve / could’ve been gameplay-wise. I think we know Starfield’s shortcomings but hearing how people would’ve done it differently is always interesting. I actually don’t mind seeing more Bethesda videos if you’re able to take fresh evaluations each time or as news comes out. The final straw for me was when I saw that Bethesda literally copy pasted all the temples where you get your space Jesus powers, they were literally all the EXACT SAME BORING MINIGAME. Even Skyrim had multiple methods & varied locations for getting the Dragonborn Shouts 🤦🏻♂️
Very simple. Don't make 1000s of Planets for one. Set the setting to just the Solar System with only 8 Fully Handcrafted Truly HUGE Planets. Since Starfield's setting is about "NASA Punk", And let the story center around Humanity's First Discovery and Contact of a Alien Civilization. End the game once the Alien Civilization is discovered to whet players appetties for Starfield 2 where said Aliens can be a Playable Race.
Anything is better than this "Space Magic Sh*t" that Starfield is doing now.
they have evolved at a snails pace. and realistically fallout 3 and new vegas outside of nostalgia have aged pretty poorly by todays standards. I replayed new vegas recently and i love the setting and story for new vegas but actually playing it is pretty boring.
5:41 nice.
Starfield did not come out 3 after red dead redemption but 5 years later 😂
New Atlantis was so barren and there was no map at launch? there are no excuses for that. The npc don't react to the player at all. They just stare at you like your in a zoo. Its the foundation of bethesda games that is failing. if the cities in TES6 are barren like new atlantis i will throw up.
This was a good video❤ something I wonder about is how Microsoft's acquisition of Bethesda has affected the games and development, how much of starfield could be Microsoft's fault? Maybe none, maybe some.
Appreciate you mate😁
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I do wonder how tolerant Microsoft will be if ES6 is not highly profitable.
@@jfkst1 Eesh, thats a good point, I dont think they would directly dissolve Bethy, but I do feel like too much major corp in a company does destroy it quicker.. Like ubisoft, or Sony with Helldivers.
Microsoft is famous for having a very gentle hand to allow their properties to produce without an overbearing boss. The problem is that sometimes you need to do a little tough love to get a better product made. Bethesda is so high on their own supply and protected by the parent company that they arent seeing what is actually happening with their games with customer feedback. The only fault Microsoft has that I can tell is that they have let the kids have the run of the house, and they need to be put back in place. Before Microsoft, Bethesda was on this same track anyway so its just been more of the same.
@@davidmacy411 I could see that, ZeniMax owned Bethesda Softworks until 2021, and though Doom, Wolfenstien, and Skyrim were great, the later games like Redfall were a bit of an issue. Maybe its just the flow of things? Like games get better, then get a little worse, then get better again? Maybe its our fault and we just have a lot of expectations and nostalgia? The main guy on top is Phill Spencer, hes probably the one to please. I do worry though about Microsoft buying Activision and blizzard, monopolies arnt good for industries that can push agendas. Is there any resource that talks about Microsoft as an employer? What they are like?
You make it seem that F3 was the last good Fallout. I don't know why Fallout fans hate 4. It is my favorite. It is the only game I ever played for years. I squeezed 5 years out of that game modded! It had the most replay, humor and the best DLC'c. Starfield has gotten a bad rap. It's a good game. It just doesn't have the replay or F4 and they screwed up the DLC. They should offer a new free DLC to get loyalty back. As someone who preordered I feel like I will not buy anymore DLC's after Shat Turd Space.
Judging by the age of your RUclips account you must be in your mid to late 30's possibly early 40's, you ought to know better for someone who was around Bethesda for that long. Just out of sheer curiousity; does the name Kurt Kuhlmann or Michael Kirkebride ring any bells ? and if so what are your thoughts about the two ?
Bethesda is tone deaf and completely ignores the fanbase. As evident in yesterday’s “Fallout Day” event Bethesda hyped up for the last week only to talk about Fallout 76 for 20 minutes. All they care about is trying to reach the biggest audience possible. But in the process they’re just making extremely bland games that few end up enjoying. The only reason 76 has managed to survive is because Fallout has an insanely massive fanbase, and while they brag about 76s numbers the truth is that game is HEAVILY underperforming given the size of the Fallout community. It safe to say 75% of the fanbase is completely uninterested in Fallout 76, yet if you hear BGS talk it’s the latest craze everyone’s going wild over. Fallout 76 does have a loyal fanbase but the Fallout IP in general is under performing because 3/4 of the fanbase are alienated by 76 being the only new Fallout experience for the last decade with no signs of another single player Fallout coming anytime soon.
Lol that meme in the beginning perfectly describes bethesda. I don't blame them though they will still make tons of money either way. Bethesda fan boys will always come in clutch and mod their games for eternity.
Thanks 😁I made that meme myself 😅
So sick of hearing that their engine is the problem from people who 100% know nothing about their engine. Their engine could be completely capable but is just not being used well.
The engine they personally use is horribly unoptimized, i dabbled in Creation Kit while modding Skyrim and Fallout 4 for many hours, while it is very suitable for their games, one can't deny how unoptimized it is, they could make it better but they lack the skills or just don't want to waste more time improving their engine and that reflects poorly on everything they do.
tl:dr: they just too lazy to make it any better.
@@Vert_GreenHeart "they just too lazy to make it any better" And THAT is the real problem. Bethesda's hardcore fans have let them get away with this crap for so long, they don't need to try harder.
@@Martial-Mat Not anymore though, i feel like the community as a whole has riled up against Bethesda for once, i mean even Bethesda shills like MrMattyPlays can't help but be disappointed with them.
@@Vert_GreenHeart Yes, that's true. Here's hoping it achieves something. The new fallout 76 content looks like they're listening.
@Martial-Mat lmao just as I said that I received notif about new mrmatty video presumably criticising Bethesda as nothingburger.
FromSoftware is ahead of Bethesda really? Have you seen Elden Ring and their hundreds of re-used assests? Now don't get me wrong, I loved Elden Ring, and I even agree with your title but just not with FromSoftware.
And what risk was taken by from software in creation of elden ring lmao? They literally make the same game over and over again and again
You couldn’t be more off. Bethesda needs to stick to what they’re known for. We WANT more of the same. It works. Hand crafted and rich. Starfield failed because they tried something new. No personal touch.
We do NOT need them switching up the dojo anymore than they already have.
they need new writers man..
Totally see where you’re coming from, but in terms of writing especially we seriously need something new.
It's the opposite. I wouldn't call the style of interactions/conversations/esp characters of Starfield NEW. 🤨
fallout 4 feels more new than starfield imo
Bethesda is a studio in deep decline and by the time ES6 comes out it will face being compared to Witcher 4. I don't think that's something Bethesda will survive or maybe Avowed will do the job.
Cyberpunk released unfinished but fun, and they fixed it. Starfield released unfinished and not fun at all.
The Engine Is Fine, within the hard limitations the code base of Creation has baked into it.
Modders accomplish projects Todd dismisses, like make a Fallout game outside America.
Bethesda simply doesn't have enough creative talent - or the free-will of that specific talent - to make a great IP from scratch; Starfield is proof that Bethesda simply cannot create fun new ideas, Starfield's nested multiverse hard-sci-fi premise would have only been interesting during the infancy of Real World America's Space Race, and is only palatable to people whose only exposure to exploration games *is* Bethesda Games.
CD going with Undreal Engine is because all the poeple who knew how to work on it left, they are stuck with DEI hires and UE5 is easier to learn to these "knew poeple"
The Witcher 3 was a buggy mess on launch just like Skyrim so what are you talking about??
The Witcher 3 is not a roleplaying video game - we have to play as Geralt.
I do not have to be the Dragonborn in Skyrim. I can make whoever I want to make. With mods, I can start Skyrim wherever I want to and never even speak to Balgruuf. I can start Vanilla Skyrim and just not report that Helgen was attacked by a dragon. I can be a farmer, a miner, a hermit, a bandit, a thief, an assassin, a vampire, a lycan, a holy warrior etc, etc, etc. The possibilities are _almost_ endless in Skyrim, add mods and it is endless.
I really thought that Bethesda would code more possibilities and agency in questlines but either they lack the talent to do so, they dont want to do it, or it is impossible to do so. Instead, we got a voiced protagonist in Fallout 4 that shoves Shawn in your face every other dialog option and we got an MMO with zero roleplay in Fallout 76 and we got an action adventure fps with ZERO build diversity in Starfield.
TES 6 will not have what I want it to have, which is more roleplay agency and less railroading.
The Witcher 3 is absolutely a roleplaying game. Being less open-ended in some respects, like your character's appearance and backstory, allows the game have deeper choices and consequences in the quests/story. It's a tradeoff that Bethesda and CDPR both make, as you mentioned with FO4 and Starfield. But saying one of the best RPGs ever made isn't an RPG is wild.
@fix-error we have fundamentally different definitions of roleplay then.
If I could make my own witcher and it was 1pp with the dialog agency, which affects the story and future encounters, I would be more inclined to agree with you.
@@panzer00 I agree, it sounds like my definition of an RPG is less specific than yours.
I see it more as an umbrella term for games where players assume a role and can choose how/when they approach certain objectives. Strong narrative focus is also important, I think.
I'm curious what other categories games like Mass Effect fall under for you. If not an RPG, what would you call it?
I'd rather play as a predefined character with good writing than a undefined character with boring writing, the real fun is striking a balance between the two, something like Fallout New Vegas where you are courier, you did some things before and have some sort of backstory but still a blank slate when playing him/her.
@Vert_GreenHeart I just don't think playing a predefined character whom the story is written around and predetermined is roleplay.
The world exists and consequences will happen regardless of my intervention but if I choose to intervene, my actions _could_ fundamentally alter those consequences and the perception of the world around me; it's ultimately a limitation of what is possible to code while maintaining functionality.
My idea of roleplay might never be possible in the context of video games. I believe that AI could get us closer to that, though - altering code in real time as a response to the player characters' actions where the AI plays the role of DM in real time. If that is is possible, is an entirely different problem.
Or AI writing an infinite amount of possibilities that when met trigger unique consequences. Developers could leverage AI for roleplay agency.
They lost me right after the last DLC for Fallout 4, and that game is unplayable and unenjoyable without mods.
And Fartfield should be the best game they ever made? Todd's baby? Kiss my ass, Crapthesda. I thought the same thing when you released Toddshit 76, the worst and most greedy game I've ever seen, but this time I mean it. I would prefer to swim into your last whale trap than eating Toddfart 76 in space, the saddest and most boring SF universe I've ever seen in 55 years of my life.
Well Nintendo gonna beat them up anyway for starters I know how to make good rpg venture games
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Starfield - and the people behind it - really do have a lot to answer for.
All that time. All that money. All those promises. And we get a game which is about as fun as a colonoscopy and immersive as a bird bath.
What makes it worse is that this is coming from the maker of one of the greatest games ever made, Skyrim.
Something is going very very wrong in Bethesda IF they really believe that Starfield is a great game.
Personally I think Todd and others must know that it’s garbage. The real question is what are they going to do next and how will it impact TES?
The prospect of the Bethesda cast behind Starfield being let loose on the next TES is chilling. Personally I don’t want to be asking Jarl Baalgruf what his preferred pronouns are, do you?
Skyrim is much better than the Witcher I have no idea what you're talking about
Come on man be serious
“Skyrim is much better *with mods than the Witcher”
No it is not (witcher 3 is pretty much also a normie tier garbage btw)
Dipshit Bethesda cuck alert 🚨
Bethesda had the good fortune of having 2 IPs with established lore and world building already complete
elder scrolls
fallout
both of which had nothing to do with Todd Howard or Emil papayago... now that they are left to their own....skills... we are starting to see just how mediocre they both are, especially Emil's god awful writing skills.
the degradation is almost comically visible since oblivion and fallout3, you can almost taste the decay of both IPs as they were whittled down by Todd's 0 innovation approach and Emil's high-school level writing acumen
Couldn't have said it any better... Starfield was the game to show the world they can create something amazing from nothing, but in reality Emil Papayago😅has proven himself to be incompetent and inadequate to make games without already established lore and loremasters helping him.
For Skyrim succeeded despite the writing NOT because of the writing, but Bethesda and Emil specifically think they owe the success of Skyrim to him and how awesome his writing is...
Fallout, I understand. But Elder Scrolls? Dude, Todd has been involved in Elder Scrolls since Daggerfall.
@@Gabe_-pw7xv Technically he was in charge of printing CD's or floppydisks back then ? can't remember... Either ways it wasn't until Redguard game he started game production and it ended with Skyrim sadly. Now he's a full-time CEO.
Baldurs gate free
Emil - The biggest clown in the industry.
So glad people are finally mentioning his name openly, for so long i saw this idiot and felt like i was the only one thinking this guy is a total clown.
Well at least an attend of switch brand of games are getting better for a new console coming up Kentucky Bob with playstation stuff xbox
Honestly, I am done with wanting Bethesda to succeed... their laziness and contempt for their fans' legitimate complaints are their only 2 traits I can see growing in recent years. I would like to see their bankrupcy and have other developers tke over thier IPs. Sorry, not sorry, but Bethesda is trash... They have no one to blame, but themselves...
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