Battle of Greasy Grass 2021
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- Опубликовано: 11 ноя 2024
- The Battle of Greasy Grass is also known as the Battle of Little Bighorn or Custer’s Last Stand. In 1876, the U.S. Army fell to the combined forces of the Lakota, Northern Cheyenne, and Arapaho tribes. This is Donovin Sprague’s seventh year working with The Journey Museum and Learning Center to provide the Native American mindset of this storied conflict. However, most of this year’s presentation is new with information from his unpublished book on Chief Hump and Crazy Horse. More info at www.journeymus...
Donovan Hump... Great report on your family and their involvement in the Battle of the Little Bighorn. I enjoyed all of your information. I am a student of the Indian Wars and I keep looking for new information. Thank you for your contribution to all of us.
I am of mixed heritage, half Native American I think because of geographical personal family tree, obvious features, my ancestry would be Apache of that region. The other half of my ancestry is Spanish, although I look more Native American, than a Spaniard would look like. I tend to embrace my Indian way of thinking and of doing. Best wishes on all of your endeavors, I am grateful for your time. I extend my hand of peace and of Brotherhood. I was a division soldier of the year in the US ARMY INFANTRY and I achieved the Best Soldier of all of the Division, by finishing in Second of the 7th INFANTRY DIVISION. 1982... I was also a DMZ SCOUT in KOREA, 82 - 83.
I also achieved the rank of Sergeant in a mostly all White Conservative Group, they had high standards but I not only surpased those standards, I showed them who I was. Hoooooahhh!!.. A First Class Warrior !
That is just my background, pleased to meet you... Most whites called me Chief, my face told them who I was... One of the very best Soldiers in the ARMY. I Have always been a Scout, I was raised academic and loved the outdoors and the rivers, that were less than two miles away from my parents home. Yes... I was lucky... I enjoyed a virtual Paradise, In the foothills of the San Gabriel Mountains, Los Angeles, California. I enjoyed great times growing up. My Education taught me to be a leader and a tutor everywhere I went in Civilian life as well as the US ARMY. 77 - 83... WORLD TOUR VOLUNTEERS... HOOOOOAHHH !!..
Great Post, Salute!
It's not about you... you seem very full of yourself
Most excellent, Donovan thank you Sir for sharing the truth,, for those who wish to hear it.,
By all accounts, when Gen. Terry sent Custer south down the Rosebud to turn north at its head and press on to the suspected village, he was unaware that Gen Crooke had left the field. It seems an odd thing that Terry's orders to Custer omitted coordinating instructions concerning an anticipated rendezvous with Crooke. It makes one wonder whether Terry, with his HQ on the Yellowstone, knew of Crooke's action on the Rosebud, and sent Custer to do assume Crooke's mission.
The plan was never for the three columns to make a coordinated attack. The War Department believed that any of the columns, even Gibbon's relatively small force of infantry and cavalry was strong enough to defeat the Indians. Terry and Gibbon met mostly by chance as they followed different trails that converged. There was no way of knowing exactly where the Indians were as they moved camp frequently after they used up the resources in an area. Read Terry's written orders to Custer. It is a magnificent example of writing by a lawyer. It's worded so that Terry can take credit if Custer wins the battle or avoid blame if things went south. Nobody knew about the Rosebud battle because Crook decided to spend some time hunting and fishing while waiting for resupply from Wyoming. Privately, Sheridan was furious about Crook's inaction and thought Crook's actions, or lack thereof, was a major factor in Custer's defeat.
An intelligence mishap to be sure. The kind of thing known to be involved in disasters.
I rather enjoyed the speaker's presentation. Most interesting to me was the part when he revealed where the separate bands and leaders of the Sioux and Cheyenne departed once the battle ended.
I hate to correct a sage like Donovan Sprague, but the Little Bighorn was not the greatest victory the Native Americans had over the U.S. military, far from it. In 1791, along the Wabash River, in what is now northwestern Ohio, a confederation of Indian tribes under Chiefs Little Turtle and Blue Jacket absolutely routed the U.S. forces under General Arthur St. Clair. The casualty rate among St. Clair's soldiers was 97.4 percent. In short, Native forces decimated approximately one-quarter of the entire U.S. Army in that battle.
Donovan made mention of a story in his presentation that I should have liked to ask him about. The story was about a soldier named Barnum who had a horse that wouldn't jump; however, while being pursued by Native warriors during the Reno fight, Barnum's horse suddenly leaped across the riverbank to safety, almost as if it flew. Now, I've read a tremendous amount of literature about the Little Bighorn, but I have never read this story; however, I have read about a mule named Barnum. Barnum, the mule, seems to have been part of the expedition primarily for the 7th Cavalry troopers' amusement, a bit of comic relief. While en route to the Little Bighorn, the stubborn beast apparently didn't care for the packs on its back. If I remember aright, one morning while on the march, the mule tried in vain to remove the packs from its back; it struggled, it kicked, and it rolled. So great were Barnum's efforts that the animal eventually fell off a deep defile whilst the regiment was marching through some badlands in eastern Montana. The 7th Cavalry troopers thought Barnum had met his demise, but later that afternoon the mule suddenly reappeared and fell back in file as if nothing had happened. The packs were still on Barnum's back.
During the fight in the valley, Barnum apparently bolted toward the Indian camp. This time the animal had packs of ammo on its back. Some intrepid trooper from Reno's battalion caught up with the mule and somehow coerced the beast to return back to where it belonged. For that action, the trooper (I forgot his name) was awarded the Medal of Honor. In any event, I'm curious to know if Donovan's 'Barnum' story is coincidental, or if he confused his story with the 'Barnum' the mule story.
One final note worth mentioning, Donovan Sprague - a direct relative of noted Native warriors who fought at the Little Bighorn - knows something that most Americans don't know, or even realize. George Armstrong Custer has become one of America's greatest scapegoats. Indeed, he has Donovan, and thanks for pointing that out!
Actually since the Indians left the battlefield in possession of Custer's troops it was a tactical victory for the Army.
@@aidanjoelogan9358 Yes, you are correct, it was a massacre (of Custer's troops, at least). Then again, if you look at the whole big picture, it was a battle; after all, a good 450 soldiers of the U.S. 7th Cavalry survived the fight. I'm well aware of the irish who perished in the "massacre", as well as the savage mutilations done upon Custer's dead.
@@aidanjoelogan9358 ok
Custer was a punk.
Good program. It starts at 10:01.
thanks
Presenter intro was way too long. I bailed around 9:06
Wonderful presentation donavon! Thank you! Very informative!
Thank you.
Geat Historical account of very sad times.
Video starts at 9.45.
Very interesting talk. Enjoyed ❤
NEW SUBSCRIBER. Informative presentation. I've traveled extensively and the 2 poorest regions of the country I saw were in the lower portions of Eastern Oklahoma and the Indian reservation in the Dakotas.
The book up where do I get the book? I tried to look it up I can’t find it.
He’s likes the spot light like Custer !
having just won this great battle why did most instantaneously go to the forts to surrender? how would they know they might be shot? I assume they must have figured after killing off the 7th cavalry they knew they would be chased down?
won the battle - lost the war, Custer had provided that eventuality !!!
Most didn't. The ones that did, about 300 surrendered almost a year later because of starvation.
I live in Germany. Where can I buy your book?
at the Dollar Store
@@Antonio-j1g The title could not be found there!
"Calvary" is where Jesus was crucified, outside of Jerusalem. "Cavalry" is what we call military, mounted on horses.
Any chance the USA will honor the Fort Laramie Treaty ?
Any chance the USA will honor any Treaty it makes ? with out putting it self 1st
😆
Ted
Seems you are still confused as to what country we are living in.
The United States of I.zrael NEVER EVER honored a single Treaty they signed!
Our Government was Gaslighting Native Americans long before they started Gaslighting the Southern Confederacy into the Civil War
and long before they Gaslighted us over “systemic racism” or “CRT” or “BLM”
> History Is Being Repeated Then Obliterated
@@LaGrandeBayou So are you inferring that the culture and country were built by "virtuous white men" that were gaslighted by an evil government?
Ted
“ LaGrandeBayou So are you inferring that the culture and country were built by "virtuous white men" that were gaslighted by an evil government?”
No I’m inferring our Country was built by INDUSTRIOUS White Men.
The fact that you called them “virtuous” tells me your an insufferable Leftist.
What your history books censored (along w/ the Lying Yankee Media for a almost 2centuries)..have censored and LIED about was the fact that Jim Crow Laws were FORCED upon the South by Lincoln himself to force ex slaves North because the Mills were desperate for labor forces to operate them. After Yankee labor forces of simpleton White men had been decimated by the Confederacy.
And YET the Yankee “historians” continue to tell us grand LIE after LIE about how the all powerful and all wicked and penniless Confederacy were guilty of creating the:
•YANKEE CREATED•
Jim Crow LAWS
literally REVERSING and Lying and distorting the Confederate historical record. Utter corruption.
And Yet,
The South not only had a solid legal foundation for Seceding, (as explicitly outlined by the founding fathers and Thomas Jefferson himself..states the “independent confederacies’” have a Constitutional Right to Secede in the event of
-Misrepresentation
-No Government investment
-Over Taxation i.e High Tariffs
-Government Over Reach, etc.
Sounds Familiar...? It should.
Same thing goes on TODAY
This is what ultimately leads to the 1850 “Missouri Compromise”)...
By the time 1860 rolls around the Southern politicians were left with NO VIABLE ALTERNATIVE, Aside from being extorted by exorbitant Yankee Tariffs(the Yankees "arbitrary and capricious" extortion payments were well underway by 1850)...So by the time 1860 finally rolls around after another decade of Yankee Meddling, Doxxing and Extorting their Livelihoods and culminating in an illegitimate War upon the Confederate States of America.
-The Confederate’s had an unmistakable & undisputed Legal, Ethical, pragmatic, principled,
and deeply-personal purpose for Secession. And yet, many still sought unity even Jubal Early was the last to finally admit it was useless talking with the recalcitrant, repugnant and sanctimonious Yankees once the “Bolsheviks” we’re running the “Civil War-show”.
The Yankee MEDIApresses of NYC...turned the Civil WAR into an early form of Vaudevillian-esque Agit-Prop Theatre and propaganda.
In Precisely the same fashion that the novel Uncle Toms Cabin was written by a raving zealot for abolishing slavery, which was immediately sensationalized worldwide leading to multi-millions of copies by 1855.
Media propaganda and mindwarping has been around for a very very long time and it was weaponized against the Confederacy and it.still.is.to. this.very.day.
George Soros and Walter Issacson using the cover of The Aspen Institute, orchestrated and inculcated the entire Confederate Hate & Smear Campaign you’ve been witnessing for the last 5 years. They manufactured the current ISIS-like “Confederate Cleansing” that they created by brilliantly getting then DemonicRAT mayor Mitch Landrieu to unilaterally issue his edict to remove 4 Confederate Historical Landmarks in New Orleans. We have the proof proving collusion and that Soros and Issacson orchestrated the entire shitshow including Race-riots, and Astro-turfing City Councils meetings for 2 years. Make NO MISTAKE ABOUT IT..the Confederate Cleansing is 1000% Globalist MANUFACTURED.
Meanwhile,
Imagine living in a 75% White majority Country...
• with massive urban metropolises where black democrat politicians have been in total of power for 4 generations NOW,
• in a White Country with more black billionaires and millionaires than 90% of the worlds countries.
• where blacks are barely 12% of the population YET they commit 52% of all crime and murders same White majority.
• and the 'Icing on the Cake' is how Farrakhan-esque "FU@K White America" NFL sanctioned salutes are praised by the bankingMediaElite.
.... and yet millions of brainwashed racist tools are still on the ground SNIVELING like toddlers about....
"mUh wHiTe sUpEmAcY"
The fact of this battle was that all three calvary forces knew where the indians were gathered but only a smaller attachment of Crooks calvary were the only ones that engaged. Everyone knew where the Indians were but the 3 Generals in charge choose to stay away from the Little Bighorn
Hmmmm........
They didn't know the exact location of the indian village, they also didn't "choose to stay away" they were in route, on their way, and converging on the little bighorn valley, custer just got their first ahead of the other columns, and chose to engage the indians in an attempt to not let them slip away as they had done many times previously.
Custer picked a fight with a superior foe. That's all it was.
I agree, the indian warriors where about 20.000 Custer men only 216
I was watching a video about a warriors eyewitness story. He said there was a window when Custer could have retreated with a rear guard action. In his opinion Custer waited too long. Custer didn’t realize there were warriors already hiding on his side of the river. They surrounded him and it was too late. I had never heard that before.
And the superior force had home field advantage....😅
Do you personally believe that Maj Reno could have saved the Custer group if he had not lost his nerve?
No way
Reno was drunk . If he had done a coherent defense in the timber Custer could have had an opportunity . . I have my doubts if he could have won the battle but sure he had survived
Not Maj Reno but Cpt Benteen could have potentially. He was ordered to go to Custer and help due to the size of the village and was slowly on his way. Maj Reno ordered Benteen to stop and help his shredded battalion when their 2 battalions crossed paths on the hilltop. Benteen was more than happy to stay and disregard his earlier orders.
No. Reno was overwhelmed by too many skilled warriors. Custer was likewise overwhelmed. Neither could have come to the aid of the other. The mistake that set up this massacre was caused by faulty intelligence about the size of the Indian force . In addition Custer was told that the Indians were fleeing. This played into Custer's impulsive temperament and his strong motivation to restore his career.
No Way in Hell
I just read a 380 page novel of Custer and his folly. Incredible story. Tragic both ways but what a powerful and moving piece of indigenous history. Why the animosity between Arikara and the Sioux though?
Accolades. So what’s Donovan doing to to “help the greasy grass” besides selling his book? Money. Just money. He’s figured it out. The Sioux did steal from the the Crows. Arikaras tried to make it right. Fuck off. Make your own story.
You need to do a lot more reading try with the ABCs of Custer's Last Stand😂
Hump , one tough s.o.b.
Was Lazy horse at the battle
10:06
Donovan……you wrong. Pawnee were Scouts also and likely at little big horn. But you forgot 2 research that.
Hey America drive-thru white clay South Dakota and then listen and watch all this money devoted to things that happened any generations ago. I love the hypocrisy of this country
yup...it's pitiful out there. Sickening. I've seen people in pallets tacked together and covered in cardboard that people were living in - and for those who don't know it gets soooo cold out there
You have permission to seek a better life elsewhere.
Custer wore Arrow shirts
Nope, he was shot out of the saddle crossing the river by White Bull Cow.
@@rivrat210 do you homework, Both his wounds were mortal therefore Keogh would've been with Cooke , do any of you people even know the basics of this battle ? Garryowen
Tim makes a good point
Calm down Pat, you weren't there either...lol
@@rivrat210 that Custer was shot at the ford has been debunked. It was likely Lt Smith in buckskins, some say, it has been said Custer wasn’t even wearing buckskin that day. White Bull never claimed to have shot GAC, it was fabricated by journalists. The Indians didn’t even think Custer was there, let alone be able to recognise him no longer with ‘long hair.’ The bullet hole in his left temple is inconsistent with suicide. An excellent lecture by the way. Greetings from an LBH fan, London. 🇬🇧🇺🇸
Terry said to Custer, wait for us , you cannot win the battle with 216 men. Custer replay: The 7th can handle anything😂
Really? 10 minute intro? Stupid!
Cute out all the BS and just do presentations
Whoever that so called Speaker is, he was a USED CAR SALESMAN before someone handed him a microphone. Total self-serving BS. thumps DOWN.
Right on my friend. This idiot used the word CALVARY 22 times, instead of the word CAVALRY. He was introduced as some sort of world class scholar. I've seen better presentations at the local library. I could do much much better as a casual lay-person on this subject. Simply disgusting.
What if Custer had used the Indian tactics against them and ran away like a little girl? do you think that might have saved him? 🤪. RIP.
The LBH failed because of the treachery of Reno and Benteen with help from Grant.
@@aidanjoelogan9358 The LBH was a repeat of the Washita and Benteen was there so he knew exactly Custer was going to do. You divide and maneuver on offense to increase the enemy's lines of expectation so he can't concentrate at the point of your attack. Most everything written about the LBH is nonsense just like your take. DUH!
You got to be kidding. No one was a coward that day.
@@davidpallin772 You were there?
@@davidpallin772...Reno was, and a drunken coward to boot.
He was cute though
It wasn't a battle it was a route get over it.
Very edgy. FYI, battles turn into routes. That's the goal for either side. The Indians won the day.
grew up in colorado springs custer decendent living in oregon now. dont feel proud of the ancestry.
Too bad, Byzantine thinking got to you. Custer saved the Union in the Civil War is historical fact. I'm a drafted disabled Republic of Vietnam combat veteran '68. There are instances when government people can be good and evil.
P.S. I failed to add a note in history about Custer. Custer was stationed in Hempstead, Texas after the Civil War. Army Major Moses Hanson wrote a letter describing an event at Hempstead. A 9 year old black girl had walked 20 plus miles from a slave holder to find her mother.
She was recaptured in Hepstead by a 13 year old black boy. The boy had been sent on orders to capture the girl. He tied the hands behind the girls back and tied a rope around her waist. He started to drag her off with his horse. He cut her loose. The girl died.
The provost Marshall failed to act in the death of the girl. The black mother of the girl then complained to the commander at Hempstead, Major General Custer who was in command and had the boy arrested. This history is in the National Archives.
Custer should be looked at with meaning during his time and not the meaning we put on Custer. Read the Freedom Bureau's information nobody looks at in history with Custer's letters. Read the book by T.J. Stiles, "Custer's Trials: A Life on the Frontier a New America".
@@fastsetinthewest Yes, very good. I remember reading about this story in Stiles' book. But here's the thing....people like this Diane Stuckenberg, a so-called Custer "descendent", she obviously never made a study of the man's life. If Diane put any time doing some thorough research about her famous "relative", she would not be ashamed of her ancestry. She doesn't read, she doesn't research; as a result, all the information she knows about Custer comes from negative propaganda, biased opinions, and erroneous facts.
Which one of his children are you a descendant of?
@@416loren Custer never had any children.