As a few commentors have pointed out, a great hybrid idea that still keeps the effectiveness of the mace is a fancy walking cane with a weighted head. It's more inconspicuous, suits a vampire's noble aesthetic, and can be as effective as a mace if designed correctly. And then if they want it can also be a sword cane and have a backup blade when the blunt force isn't as important.
My only retort to that thinking would be keeping with the fashion aesthetic of the time period. If you are basing this in the medieval time period, a traditional walking cane that we commonly associate with vampires and aristocrats wouldn't have been a common fashion statement until the 1600s. It would appear out of place to many people in a medieval period. Certain types of staffs and crooks were common among shepherds and the like, but that isn't exactly the regal look that many vampires seem to go with either.
The bottom shaft of the cane could also feature either silver filigree or pointed oak. The reasoning for this is that one other threat to a vampire (other than Vampire Hunters) would be rival vampires, since chances are if they gravitate towards populated settings, there could potentially be competition for blood.
Same maces and clubs of the ottomans and the Mughals were minimalistic. The head of it wasn’t very big this would be inconspicuous however the flanges of European maces would really hurt. So my design for a mace for a vampire would fuse the two. A small head with good flanges. A blunted executioners sword would also be good. Since they are noble in appearance I imagine some vampires would carry a sword of some sort.
Cane. Fancy accessory for everynight use. Can be used as blunt weapon when food is stupid. Blade inside for thrust only for more stupid food who fancy themselves a hunter.
I'd say a war hammer disguised as a cane. Or a mace head disguised as a simple metal walking stick knob. Hidden blade can still be optional but you're better off carrying a proper dagger.
Pretty much what I was thinking. It depends of how common Vampires are, time period, social class of Vampire in question, and overall society though. A cane and or sword, for self defense of course, would be very appropriate for an upperclass gentleman, slightly harder for a lady to pull off, but again depends on the society. Most canes are also a little bit longer than a footmans mace or warhammer, giving greater reach. Due to the Vampires increased strength it can also be made of heavier woods and metals than normal, hiding its capabilities much like the Vampire walking with it.
@@jlokison maybe metal finger claws or rings for females? though with their str, even just a sharpened pendant would be as strong as a dagger i feel like vampires would just use weapons that enhance their own physical abilities they don't really need swords cause their claws would be good enough slashing weapons to begin so they just pick smaller objects that enhance their claws like metal finger claws and such
The cane does not need a blade inside, due to the extra strength of the wielder the cane/mace can be solid metal and just have the bottom end being pointy. This also fits when facing a dude in armor as the two main weapons against that are blunt weapons for bashing in the armor and thrusting slim weapons that targets the gaps in the armor. One end for bashing, the other for poking - all in a nice walking cane that blends into the human world.
Another advantage of preventing blood loss is that it doesn't cause as much of a scene when a person just vanishes compared with when there is a huge messy pool of blood and a person vanishes (which means there will be less likely for Vampire hunters to come) especially useful when targeting people who nobody would notice if they vanished
I don't think this is the situation where a vampire would even need a weapon. Weapons are for defense against adventurers, when blood loss isn't that much of an issue.
@@Nethan2000 To be fair a dead vampire hunter in a city raises questions. Blood trails also draw hunters. So if a group of hunters is after you it would make sense to take them down 1 at a time with well aimed strikes and no blood loss to track.
Jo Viljar ) If your priority is to avoid causing a scene, you should really just focus on making sure the vampire gets to feed. He turns into a right diva when he’s hungry.
@@Merilirem The vampire hunters might stick closely together but then again either way the vampire benefits... either the vampire can pick them off one at a time or they won't be able to cover nearly as much ground making it much easier for the vampire to simply avoid them and hide from them
A stake through the heart wouldn’t kill Dracula, vampires are all liars. Fun fact Dracula doesn’t die at the end of his novel. In the heat of the moment they rush the steps necessary to kill Dracula.
Point being, vampires are especially weak towards that, if you tried to stab a vampire with your old kitchen knife, even if through his heart, well that wouldn't kill him.
@@matrimalviarin5043 Impaling was usually wayy more gruesome than merely piercing the heart. They'd start at the anus and ram it through to the throat. It might hit the heart, but wasn't necessarily the target
Personally I loved that weapon, it was my best one handed weapon, then again it could never beat wuuthrad with a frost enchantment which I used all the way till I deleted the game
I want to add. If you want to go for the noble aristocrat looking and charming vampire. You can give them a reinforced cane with a fairly heavier and decorated weight in the grip they can hold in the open, and then a longsword in its sheathe. They will then have more options in most situations, look good doing so, and still be vicious when fighting.
Even better, combine them. A cane-sword. The balance would be thrown off if the head was too heavy, but it would provide both kinds of weapon in a stealthy manner. Don't forget, the best way to avoid vampire hunters is to not be noticed in the first place.
@@Benjamin1986980 I have a hard time agreeing because the only thing that comes to mind is the sword flinging off by accident. It wouldn't be uncommon for nobility to have a seperate sword just on your belt and a cane in hand. At least in the renaissance period and beyond anyway.
What if a vampire were to use brass knuckles as a backup weapon? It focuses their punch power onto a small area and is unbelievably easy to conceal and use in a tight space.
Id say with a vampires senses and speed that would likely be a rather good weapon for defense as you could just punch any attack out of the Way so long as it does portrude enough
@@erebys21 It’s been proven that you can punch with a buckler and it’s very effective. It would be nice to have a weapon with a bit more reach so buckler & mace would be perfect
I think the big thing is the armor a vampire(or any undead) could wear, they don't feel fatigue or any real pain since they're dead, and thus, could wear some extremely durable and heavy armor with minimal negative effects.
(pictures an enormous heavily armoured figure creeping up behind someone, reaching into a pouch and pulling out a small cosh, and daintily swiping it across the back of the bystander's head.) Ridiculous, but effective.
Little known fact: Shad once singlehandedly defeated a vampire with only a silver pommel and a holy trebuchet, before killing it with the first ray of dawn (which came from the highest machicolation of the Shadfort)
The mace was actually the first weapon that i thought of due to a reason that you actually didnt even look at. Depending on how much stronger a vamp is they could run into issues with the weapons they use not having enough strength to survival their use and you dont want to be contently replacing your weapon. This was actually something that was looked at in the inheritance cycle after eragon was turned into a half elf. he was offered a mace due to their simplicity and them not really having an edge to protect. Now this would mostly only be an issue if we are talking vamp on vamp fights or if the vamp was up against an opponent with similar strength but i still think ti would come into play if the vamp was using a sword against a weaker opponent and didnt watch their edge alignment
thicker swords? keeps the noble aspect and most of the benefits at the cost of added weight and higher point of balance. the kind of vampires he talks about won't have to worry much about increasing the weight a bit. European blade but with the thickness of a katana? that seems kind of sturdy, or would the reduced flexibility make it too brittle?.
Another thing he was waffling on but not realizing is Vampires typically only drink Human blood so if they were fighting with non-humans would they really care about blood loss? With that said if they were fighting werewolves blunt weapons may not be nearly as effective. I'd say in that situation a better weapon would be a War Pick or a heavy Halberd. For fighting humans I think a vampire might consider a whip or chain that they can bind the human with to collect them for drinking later. When he goes on about vampire hunters yes they probably would go with maces/swords depending on whether they're armored or not but I still think the chain idea would be more viable for a Vampire to use. I think a vampire would have more intelligence than a human so they could theoretically create more advanced weapons than a human would. We could imagine Bolo guns, net launchers, sleep darts, things that incapacitated their prey rather than wound them.
I had this whole long discussion written out here, but then you covered everything I was going to say... Curse you Shad for anticipating possible objections and answering them logically and comprehensively!
In my oppinion the best "weapon" for a Vampire would be the walking stick/staff with a reinforce head to work as a hammer. Easy to disguise as a human with (specially as nobility) as its not technically a weapon, can deal with both armored and un-armored tagets without wasting the precious blood, can disarm/break arms easily with the hook-shaped head and even work as a thrusting weapon if the point is pointy enough, would work well on city setting due to overall legth and the "its not a weapon" thing... Im sure I can come up with more advantages to it. One objection would be that it isnt effective as a defensive tool against cutting edge weapons but it wouldnt be a problem for strong vampires to made the stick out of metal or just reinforce them with it as seen many times as "ornaments" or decoration.
exactly my opinion unfortuanately u were faster in posting this :D metal walking cane blunt except a small beak on the handle woudl allow it to use it with the lighter end kinda swordlike still having HUGE weight and power behind for fightign enemies the blunt side of the handle for caving in armored guards who have snuck up on you and the beak for when u want to open up the armor so u can finally get your meal :D and liek you said the best thing ever noone would expect him of anythign since he is just walking around with a cane ^^ havnt thought about ranged weapon but sling works amazing i have to agree with shad on this one id add that a sling is quite compact and easily confined.. sure doesnt really work underground or in narrow alleys..
For me it depends on the setting: if your noble vampire is walking by the city looking for peasants for dinner, sure, a cane is a great hidden weapon to carry on. However, if I include a vampire lord in a story, close to the end could happen a big battle between an vampire army and an human army, in this setting the lesser vampires and/or brainwashed slaves would fight serious and their master would hate to spoil a great amount of food. Because of this, for me, the bloodsucking army would use blunt devasting weapons and maybe armor to repel the invasors (because it's a serious battle after all, and what call more the attention than an army of nobles carrying canes to fight against a horde of heavy weponize humans)
@@danielmachado4389 sure, the stick might be a practical tool but doesnt really fit the "super powerful evil weapon" type. BUT stick/staffs are also heavily related to magic staffs, so having your vampire character disguised as human with a harmless walking stick and change back to its demonic form with a huge magic cepter sounds like a cool trick to me.
Vampire Hunter comes up in full plate. Vampire with a mace: "I do not like my drinks in a Can!" His Friend: "Come on, five taps on the top to make it go fizzy" His little 'Brother': "I call that Monster Energy"
Not gonna lie, content like this is why I really come here. You think outside the box. Also your knowledge of combat accuracy is useful. It's especially been helpful for my Fantasy writing.
Even though it conflicts with a lot of the traditional imagery of the vampire, I feel like a vampire who had trained in hojojutsu wielding a simple length of chain would be both tremendously effective against a wide range of opponents and REALLY fun to watch in battle.
A great noble weapon for a Vampire? Bolas! It's blunt, it's ranged, it's throwing, and also it ensnares the victims! Perfect for a vampire out on it's a nightly hunt! Why wasn't this considered alongside the sling? Also, a Whip wouldn't be too bad of a weapon either, nor to inconspicuous. So a vampire armed with Bolas, a Horse-whip, a fancy mace disguise as a walking cane. and fancy clothing. Now that would be an interesting opponent.
I meam a whip isn't really that effective as an actual weapon. Sure it can wrap around stuff and it's hard to see where it's going, but it wouldn't actually do much damage against an opponent.
I started by disagreeing with the whip until I thought about strangling too... Not the most effective but, since it's an usual thing I guess, easy to look like you're going to murder people for a litteral living
@@matthewcooper4248 Well a Vampire dosn't really need the damage potential from a whip. It just needs to constrict and could be used for strangling. The vampire itself is a weapon in itself, and the whip is just there to help limit the enemie / prey, prevent it from causing any harm, by disabling the opponent. I good tackle in the leggs causing the opponent to fall over or a good hit at the weapon disarming the opponent. And he's pretty much finished against a vampire.
Real quick fact, the reason why people said long ago that vampires couldn't see themselves in mirrors was because mirrors were made out of silver way back when. Nowadays, vampires probably could see themselves, since most mirrors are made of aluminum or stainless steel.
I was told its because mirrors show the soul. And vampires dont have a soul anymore they are just walking corpses with the memorys of their former selfs
Gary Correia No the main reason is mirror symbolise correcting oneself and positivity. A vampiric zombie would not like that symbolism. What you are thinking about is the draught zombie which is the 9th daughter of the yellow emperor(or descendants) who couldn’t go back to heaven because she was tainted by the something of earth resulting in her looking hideous and thus dislike mirrors. These two are pretty much polar opposite. The former is Yin, came from corpses buried improperly, the latter is Yang, result of divine heir (possible sun god) used for war. Though the two share the same name. So it’s easy to confuse them
the only real problem would be a mancatcher would not prevent the victim from screaming (for help or otherwise) now a simple gag would be easy enough to use, but as the mancatcher catches but otherwise doesn't harm the victim, they would be screaming from the get go
Well, one would assume that a vamp hunter would need to use their weaknesses. So we want silver plated weapons, and probably hardwood spears. They also may want to defensively incorparate crucifixes into their armor/shield/literally crucifixes everywhere. As far as a vamp hunter ranged weapon the classy crossbow should work, with either wood tips or silver coated tips, depending on weaknesses. Perhaps they would use execution weapons to decapitate the vampires. Or just vials of holy water. Beyond weapons a hunter may want to otherwise change their lifestyle, going so far as to eat garlic every day and bathing in water laced with wolf's bane. Perhaps they would carry small trinkets to throw out and have the vampire count.
But we all know that the best weapon for a vampire hunter is an enchanted whip that can be upgraded into a magical morningstar flail of absurd length. Shad's video would be about ten seconds long.
One thing I liked in Blood Omen 2 is that human-made weapons tended to break quickly when wielded by vampires, not being made to deal with the stresses of that strength and speed. In hindsight, the fact that Kain would just brute force his way through armor with swords probably didn't help.
@@geoffreysorkin5774 Titanium is only stronger than steel when compared by weight, steel is however much harder and titanium deforms and bends much easier. titanium has a high tensile strength, meaning it doesn't break easily, but it does deform much easier than steel, so the sword would bend much easier is made of titanium, and wouldn't hold an edge well. steel is just the better option, especially when a much higher force is being applied.
Funnily enough, before starting this video I was thinking a warhammer, due to the fact that they'd be able to wield it with far greater speed and force than a human.
Underrated comment. That said, the mace isn't technically intended for vampires, it's meant to tempt mortals into Molag Bal's service. Where as vampire's souls already belong to him. While you can obviously get the mace AS a vampire in almost every game, from a lore standpoint, the Mace would be wasted on a vampire, in Bal's eyes.
And then sort of wrong with Harkon's sword... though Harkon doesn't really go out hunting and has all his meals delivered so I'm pretty sure the sword is just decorative/ceremonial.
Or just other weapons used for restraining or capturing targets, assuming you can count them as proper weapons: nets, ropes and chains (lassos, rope darts, meteor hammers, kusarigama, etc), blackjack/slapjack/baton/tonfa, and potentially whips. Also a bit surprised shields weren't mentioned, as they can be used as an effective bludgeon, especially in the case you just want to concuss or neutralize an opponent without damaging them much.
@@rythofthefourthhouse7104 Fair point. I think terminators have physical hearts to keep their skin alive and staking the heart on one will just make it mad.
I mean a vampire would use piercing weapons right? Or would they use blunt weapons to conserve the blood? Why am I thinking about this? Internet what have you done to me!?!?!?!?!
@@farmingsimulatordiyugf2846 I'm just wondering if they'd use the weapons to pierce the skin to get blood even though they have fangs or whether they'd try to minimize the victim's loss of blood. Like would they treat it like squandered resources or something?
You wouldn't use a shotgun, or even a crossbow, to kill a rabbit as it would destroy the meat. So a vampire should use blunt weapons for similar reasons; Why would a 1000 year old creature lick blood off the floor?
In conclusion; a cosh or blackjack is the way to go for a vamp. They're quiet, compact, deadly as heck, and about as blunt as you can get. (Also I'm 99% sure that they're illegal even in America, haven't checked in awhile though.)
Small blunt weapon for close combat in densely populated areas? Small... Blunt... Needs to end human rightly... *Traps frantic human in alleyway, approaches, reveals hidden pommels, grins*
Your honor, by the marks on his corpse, it's clear as day that this poor soul got ended rightly, tis vivid proof that there is a blood fiend among us, for it is the only creature capable of such monstrosity.
I love that maces are actually the go to because some of my favorite artwork of vampires has been them in exaggerated thick heavy plate mail (why not, they have strength to burn) and massive maces. Blunt weapons are a really great weapon to use with super strength because they are more strength based, play to your strengths!
But they're also impervious to all classic vampire weaknesses, and essentially impossible to kill; even burning one to ashes and the ashes into glass isn't enough to kill a higher vampire permanently. Daylight, garlic, religious symbols and stakes don't even tickle. And at least how they're portrayed in games, weapons would be a hindrance for them, not help, since they don't fit their natural fighting style, at all.
What about a truncheon (or any small club)? It would be good for knocking out fresh prey and inconspicuous. Or, a cane. The cane head could be used as a blunt weapon, and it could be made into a cane sword. Like some canes from Victorian England. It would be useful against prey and threats, without being arousing suspicion. After all, a vampire would be worried about attracting attention. A mace would probably attract far more attention (as it wouldn’t be that common outside of battlefields) than a truncheon or cane, fairly common weapons for self defence.
Shad: "5-second rule doesn't apply to vampire" *Alucard telepathically controls the blood of all of the dead people in London so that he can drain them from a mile away.*
There used to be a trend of blunt, hard rubber tipped crossbow bolts for rabbit hunting in the UK. They would kill even medium game purely through concussive force without cutting up the meat too much for better eating. Now imagine a vampire that could use a 1000 lb crossbow with a simple lever mechanism for quick loading with an upscaled medieval version of anti riot rubber bullets except so powerful they'd likely incapacitate even through plate armour ...
Pretty sure a flanged mace is not the kind of mace you want if you are dealing with unarmored prey, maybe just a nice knobbed mace instead. Bonus points for actually looking like a meat tenderizer.
With enough force and a bit of sharpening, those flanges can make lethal blades. Flanges only significantly reduce mass and glancing, not effectiveness against targets.
The thought I had when looking at the thumbnail was : Armor Imagine a Vampire properly trained in Armor movement and grappling mixed with the Vampires unnatural endurance, speed and strength. Who needs a weapon when you are a weapon ?
I also briefly thought of Gauntlets and fist weaponry which makes sense considering Strigoi fighters would have hundreds of years of martial arts experience.
In a city full of people it is important to go stealthy most of the time. Going ham and killing half the city/getting overpowered by numbers is not what a vampire wants. But in case he gets caught he might need a weapon to defend himself. Armor isn't silent, and it also stands out.
Now shad we need to ask the _real_ questions here...like: Would a pommel thrown from a vampire be more effective? Or less? Think about it. Theory: The pommel unscrewed and thrown is an extremely effective ranged weapon; we all know this. But my question is _where_ does this efficiency come from. There are two possible reasons why the thrown pommel is so effective. Option 1: the power just comes from pure kinetic energy. As in when the pommel is thrown heavy pommel builds up momentum before making contact with the target after which it then converts its kinetic energy into impact energy cause massive damage to the target. Option 2: the power comes from divine intervention. As in when the pommel is thrown god himself imbues it with holy energy. Giving the pommel the ultimate power to crush the armour of the heathens and infidels; It’s quite simple! however, this can only work if the pommel is thrown by a holy knight in servitude of the lord. Conclusion: really it depends on which of the theories is true. If the first theory is true then the pommel throwing tactic would be even more effective than normal due to the vampires increased strength and reflexes. In fact this technique might even be favored by the vampire race due to the fact that the pommel throwing tactic uses purely impact trauma to kill and therefore would not cause bleeding meaning that the vampires food would loose no blood. If however my second theory was true then the pommel would not work in the hands of such a fowl disgusting heathenous creature such as the vampire in fact if the vampire were to even such as pick up a pommel the lord himself would probably turn the pommel to silver to burn the unholy flesh of the vampiric creature if not smite him from his kingdom with his holy might power and grace
Well this is perfectly timed. I'm currently working on a short D&D campaign featuring vampires as the main antagonists. You have given me some great food for thought, Shad. Thank you. :D
I know that most people don't like to do this sort of thing, but a mechanized quarry (you would have platforms miving at fixed speeds running on timers) would make a great introduction for a tinkerer (II would love to hear your campaign ideas).
Heya same here sort of. I recently put a fully armed vampire bodyguard ("guardian") homebrew on dnd beyond. I was right there with the mace thought, but I felt in terms of crunch the warhammer was the best fit since it was blatantly superior and is one/two handed, and the vampire guardian keeps one hand free for grappling.
When fighting an OP vampire do the following: 1. Kneel down and pledge your undying loyalty. 2 After pleading for your life, Serve the vampire as their faithful servant for a few months. 3. After gaining their trust dismantle their home while they sleep, exposing them to sunlight. Any other strategy will end in death
MrFredstt why would they kill off an unlimited food source? In the long term it’s benefit them more if they kept a willing subject, it’s like having a cow you’re better off just milking it instead of killing it for steak.
Probably a hunting spear (has a crossbar so impaled boars etc can't get close to you) with a silver-inlaid tip. Also works against werewolves. Or a crossbow because range.
Crossbow with silver bolts, and ofc silver plate armor. Maybe a silver sword for sidearm incase things go melee of if you run outta bolts. Just silver everything, and maybe rub garlic on them before the fight for extra effect.
Really late to the party with this one, but I just wanted to add a point about surface area. Assuming the same mass and density, a smaller surface area is better for defeating armor. This has been discussed ad nauseum on a number of medieval weapon channels, but I was watching Skallagrim recently. He pointed out that a larger surface area is actually better for transferring momentum into the target. Something to keep in mind when talking about causing concussions, whip-lash, etc. Even a mallet when wielded by a vampire might not dent or crush a breast plate as much as a proper war hammer, but does it matter if it sends the man flying into a wall or into his allies. Same principle as "it's not the fall that kills you, it's the sudden stop."
Fun fact the being allergic to silver thing is a more modern thing. In some cultures Vampires are not allergic to silver but holy objects repel them. In others your cross will do nothing. It all depends. Besides Vampires can be killed by various things that would kill you.
@@maximilienrobespierre7927 with the exception of ghosts thats true. In most cases anything that would kill you will probably work. Even vampires are only immortal to death via aging.
@Leo Cook D&D sure but realistically running water does nothing to vampires though it found in some folklore about vampires that you can escape one by crossing running water. This ofcourse wouldn't stop a vampire. They would just find anlther way around if say you cross a fast moving river on a boat. Second most Vampires in Europe where Christians before becoming vampires. So crosses and such depend entirely on the vampire and their own belief's. Sun light also doesn't kill vampires at least not pure bloods. The stake to the heart was originally supposed to pin them in the grave before decapataion. Granted it also falls under anything that will kill you will kill a vampire realistically even with superhuman healing factors. So a stake to the heart = dead vampire. A bulet to the head = dead or badly wounded vampire as humans have survived a bullet to the head with proper medical care. Bullet to the heart = dead vampire . Decapataion = dead vampire, being burned alive = dead vampire. etc.
@@atwcat9370 Spoilers for The Witcher 3: Blood and Wine Regis never died, he was just turned to paste and had to regenerate over many years (Accelerated thanks to the help of Dettlaff), and while Geralt was able to defeat Dettlaff in combat (admittedly with some help from Regis), he wasn't able to permanantly kill Dettlaff. Regis revealed that only a High Vampire can kill another High Vampire permanently.
I think that a steel tipped cane would suit a vampire pretty well. It would fit right in with a Victorian setting, and it would allow the vampire to carry a weapon wherever he went without drawing eyes.
A walking cane will be more suitable for vampire if they truely want to have a weapon . A pointy end with heavy handle can truely knock most human down .
Fun coincidence: Vlad Dracula as a playable character in Assassin's Creed: Revelations multiplayer is armed with a mace (though he's not actually a vampire in that setting).
In The Dresden Files, it's very important to have a piercing weapon when fighting vampires of the Black or Red Courts because you can burst their blood reservoirs which limits their regenerative ability and other supernatural abilities.
"Are they strong enough to just crash hardened steel?" They are in some setting. In the Witcher)(books and games) vampires are very capable of ripping hardened plates apart with just their talons. Actually, in the Witcher in particular, most monsters can easily bypass armour either by ripping it apart or hitting hard enough it won't matter. That's why witchers don't use armour and focus on maximum mobility.
@@musicandalltheprettybits2670 Fair point. I forgot about humans. Still, he's got big shoulder pads that'd really get in the way. Just a good suit of chain would be enough for most swords and the like from humans. I have no idea what his huge shoulder pads are for
@@kharnthebetrayer8251 In the books, he only wears light clothing and a leather jacket. The first game stick to that but 2nd and 3rd games had to turn a blind eye on lore to add more diversity in gear. Different, specialized schools of the witchers also were games inventions and didn't make a whole lot of sense: Bear school with focus on the heavy armour (for the reasons above) and especially Sign-focused Griffin school. Signs are just low-level spells every Aretuza's/Ban Aard's freshmen can cast with no effort. Witchers use them exactly because thats the best a non-wizard can possible learn.
Poisons are no good unless we are saying the vampire is immune to it as well. Whatever chemicals you are putting into the target will be consumed by you later on. Does not seem ideal.
True but a since most vampires are immune to toxins (being undead and all) they could easily injest the poison, hell it may even serve as a flavoring to the blood. The real test would be if the vampire was targeting a heavily armoured target
Exactly! so poison wouldn't affect the vampire so they could drink poisoned blood. And depending on the vampire in question they could also leave the corpses in specific places to spread disease and add further protection against vampire hunters since no one wants to travel through a contaminated area except the brave and the desperate, thus still giving the vampire a steady food supply.
I think that it depends on what the poison does taste like. The vampires Are culinarist. Younger Person, like babies taste better because there Are no toxit in the blood ;) So if the poison does make the food taste bad... then it is bad. Cyanid does taste like a almond, so I would think that that one would be actually guite good for hunting, but we should ask vampires themselves what different poison taste to them. They have enhanced Sense and that includes the taste, so maybe any poison would make food taste bad? Any experts in here for good tasting poison?
Don't be silly Shad. The obvious weapon for a vampire in a urban environment is the battle cane. A cane made out of polished metal. That way you get the perfect combo of style, concealability, and effectiveness.
I really think this is the answer, it's small and can be as rigid as any sword made of similar materials, it can be massively heavy if it's solid. Picture the Chinese sword breaker designed as a cane. At cane length moving at Vampire speeds the damage on target is gonna be shocking and it gains agility from not being quite so head-heavy. They can be style appropriately or left as crude rods. You can import basically everything else about their use from Blackthorn sticks or Knobkerries
I feel like a vampires strength and agility coupled with the ‘silent moving creature of the night’ aesthetic, a vampire could make great usage of throwing weapons. Even a stone, in the hands of someone who’s half decent at throwing, could easily kill someone. Imagine the destruction a silent and unseen vampire could wrought. This can also be applied to open battlefields but I feel like vampires fight in their element such as forests or villages during the night, in which a vampire would have no difficulty dispatching any number of foes with no danger to itself.
I will cheat and recommend modern boxing gloves. The padding reduces the chances of causing lacerations and it can act as a layer of protection against silver and the such.
@@damobeck1 My old friend, allow me to point you towards _Castlevania_ and the many beastly forms Dracula gains in the games. Best examples would be _Castlevania 64_ and _Lords of Shadow 2._
You forgot one important vampire combat situation, Vampire on vampire combat. Although humans and hunters are the main enemies, vampires are usually society creatures who use any chance/opportunities to climb the ladder and gain influence. They cant use the classic vampire hunter weapons but their weaknesses would remain. So this is perhaps where ranged/piercing weapons would work there? Rapiers/spears/bows etc
What's awesome about this is that in Skyrim If you do the daedric quest for Molag Bal you get an enchanted MACE, and Molag Bal is also the creator of Vampires in TES lore, so shad's theory lines up perfectly! :D
Walked into this video thinking"Blunt weapons. Why waste food?" Walked out of this video thinking"Yup." Although I had not considered the sling for range. Nicely done Shad. : D
With the vulnerability vampires have I am surprised you don't think to put the vampires in full plate armour. That would counter all vulnerabilities except possibly sunlight depending on how sensitive the vampires are to UV light. Otherwise good choices of weapons for them.
Joe R Bram Stoker states that Vampires DON'T instantly die when exposed to sunlight. What it DOES do is force their superhuman abilities into a dormant state.
@@kristijanmadhukar516 If a vampire is killing it's not always because they need to feed. After all, if they are a noble lord it would be the best protection on the battle field.
Hi there Shad, Don’t you think that your augmentation is a bit wrong in the First few minutes? You start off with saying that a vampire would not need a weapon to hunt its natural prey, that being humans. Then you go on to say that in that case it is a question of figuring out what weapon would be suited to fight a human that is equipped and able to defend itself against a vampire. If that is the case it is a question of self-defence for the vampire. They are already perfectly able to get their food if they want to. So the weapon would be a tool to defend their own lives(undeath). In that case its seems to me that the vampire would not worry about waisting the blood of his attacker. Take this for example: I like to eat boar, whenever I can get it, but if a boar charges at me ill shoot it or stick a spear in it to ward it off. Self-preservation is more important in that moment than spoiling a potential meal. There are more boars in the world, I’ll get one later when my live isn’t in peril.
Just because a vampire might not use a weapon when hunting doesn't mean he doesn't have a dagger or sword at their hip in case things go south. " I'll just drain this cute blond before heading back to my crypt. OH GOD SHE'S A WIZARD!!! GOTTA PULL MY SWORD AND KILL HER QUICK!!" On the flip side a vampire might want to whack a victim in the head to stun them so they don't fight back.
@SuperSimba6: Of course draining a vampire's blood renders you vulnerable to the blood bond, unless you want to drain an elder vsmp's blood and risk being executed as a diablerist. Assuming we're going World of Darkness.
Greetings, Shad! I rather enjoyed your video on weapons a vampire might use in combat within a fantasy medieval setting. I also appreciate how you covered both vampire versus prey and vampire versus hunter scenarios. However, one area I would have loved for you to have explored in more detail is vampire versus vampire. For full disclosure, my wife and I write a historical fantasy series incorporating blood drinker races based on actual myths. In our series Morrigan's Brood, we often depict different blood drinker races coming to blows with other races of blood drinkers; such combat may entail one-versus-one to an army versus a competing army. The nature of combat varies depending on the time period of the specific story (iron age, late Roman Republic, Dark Ages, etc.) and the unique traits of each race based on their myths. For instance, a common thread would be that all blood drinker races required blood for sustenance but did not have to kill to feed (killing the victim is so wasteful, in my view). Also, some races fly while others can only run fast. Some races can detect the nature of other races, while others can only tell blood-drinker from mortal. What we focused on was the use of bladed weapons for combat between vampire races, as in our stories, the head must be severed in order to kill a blood-drinker. A blunt weapon, like a mace, would not completely kill a blood-drinker if it could be fed and healed after sustaining wounds. So, in each period, we had to incorporate bladed weapons relating to the age and culture. I will say that as we have not yet ventured into the middle ages yet with our writing, we will take seriously your comments on likely arms that vampires would use if they existed in the middle ages. Thank you very much for producing this video, and I look forward to seeing more wonderful content. Cheers!
What about a fantasy rearmed for Calvary? Gryphons, Wyverns, Pegasai would be very interesting to cover how Knights would arm themselves and fight on these beasts.
I would vote for the Irish walking stick, shilale (butchered the spelling I'm sure) has a good ball on the end for a mace. A hidden sword inside it would be neat.
Although, in overall, he is most "peacefull" one. He rarley fights, and isn't really good at it. He is average as worst of higher vampires, but better than any of the low.
That mace in your pictures has several blades and pointy parts - would break the "don't spill blood rule". It would more likely look like the maul or like a club (not spiked) or a tonfa or walking stick. Another great idea: armored gloves and helmets and knee protection and boots. Or ... what about throwing nets or a lasso or whip?
He actually explains in the video that they are not sharp enough to draw blood, "something that doesn't necessarily have spikes but enough pointed ends to focus that force onto a condensed part"
You forget to consider that vampire might use blood magic. In that case, they'd use a weapon which causes very spectacular blood sprays in order to shape the liquid to their advantage with magic. I think an ornate saber could be a cool choice.
That sounds like an incredibly stupid application of magic, and therefore Im glad he didnt cover it. It's like waterbending, but worse. Far, far worse.
Blood loss could actually be all but invalidated as a factor here because of two reasons: Immediate survival (escape combat>securing a meal) and variance in the amount of blood required for the vampire to survive, which depends on the lore involved. We are obviously dealing with a fictional creature here. This means we invent our own rules for it, and our own explanation for how it works within the fantasy world we place it in. The basic idea of a vampire is flexible as all ideas are to some degree, we can design a vampire that is very desperate for meals - one that requires GALLONS of blood to survive each night, or we could go for a much more moderate design - one that needs maybe only a cup or two of blood from prey to survive. If we steer more towards the later design, this would imply that actually bleeding out an opponent in combat could be a very effective way of incapacitating them, which would enable the vampire to move in and begin feeding. You don't need to drain literally ALL of the blood out of the victim to subdue them, you could still theoretically manage to get at least enough of a filling for it to be worth it. Not to mention the objective may be different when we're talking about a "warrior vampire" scenario. If we go by traditional vampire lore, then the creature would PREFER to avoid combat at all costs, using stealth or otherwise running away from people who can defend themselves. If prevented from doing this, the vampire would then be forced to engage in combat to survive, and because of that, we may not have to care as much about wasting potential food. Just kill the soldier standing in your way as efficiently as possible, and move on to a more helpless victim. Vampires are also well known in many kinds of fiction for vanity, charm, and fear. They are often emotionally manipulative - sometimes to a magic, mind-control kind of degree, and often use fear tactics to terrorize and demoralize their prey. They are often shown to behave like sadists, but this may not be their true motive - there are reasonable advantages to behavior like this. If a vampire in some town is well known for using very scary slasher-type weapons that leave a huge mess, it can terrorize the locals and make them less willing to actually fight back. If the vampire can brutalize a few people, the cost would be a potential waste of a few meals, but the vampire would gain the advantage of convincing people to just run away more often rather than face such a terrifying enemy in battle. This is compatible with a lot of vampire lore because they're often depicted as creatures who love a little showmanship, often to a narcissistic and self-indulging degree.
The basic idea of the vampire as it is in fantasy is plain stupid anyway , can't handle sunlight , but can walk at night under the moonlight ? Can't you see what s wrong there ? Does the moon produces any light or just reflects the sun's light ? ;) So day or night should end up just the same for those vampires :) Fire burns , either a zippo flame or a flame thrower , just takes longer for one to kill you :)
@@christophedohet8877 the light from the Moon is, as you said reflected. It is also much, much weaker than the Sun's own direct light. By your reasoning, candlelight should slowly kill a vampire.
@@christophedohet8877 ultraviolet rays is what kills them. Moonlight does reflect uv but it's so weak, that human skin cannot trap it like humans do during the day, which is what causes sunburns. Vampires would not burn at night.
I think an interesting choice for a vampire could be a whip. Doesn't cause significant bleeding, great for getting around an opponent's guard, & since they basically have infinite time to practice & master it, they could super quickly use it to disarm & restrain their target. It's also easily hidden when they're just walking the streets, so no suspicious looks from passersby as to why you're carrying a mace with you at all times. Doesn't really hold up against an armoured foe, but for civilian prey, or unarmoured hunters, it seems to work pretty well.
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As a few commentors have pointed out, a great hybrid idea that still keeps the effectiveness of the mace is a fancy walking cane with a weighted head. It's more inconspicuous, suits a vampire's noble aesthetic, and can be as effective as a mace if designed correctly. And then if they want it can also be a sword cane and have a backup blade when the blunt force isn't as important.
My only retort to that thinking would be keeping with the fashion aesthetic of the time period. If you are basing this in the medieval time period, a traditional walking cane that we commonly associate with vampires and aristocrats wouldn't have been a common fashion statement until the 1600s. It would appear out of place to many people in a medieval period.
Certain types of staffs and crooks were common among shepherds and the like, but that isn't exactly the regal look that many vampires seem to go with either.
Weapon of choice for Count Swagula
So basically a "loaded stick", or a shillelagh with weight added into the knob.
The bottom shaft of the cane could also feature either silver filigree or pointed oak. The reasoning for this is that one other threat to a vampire (other than Vampire Hunters) would be rival vampires, since chances are if they gravitate towards populated settings, there could potentially be competition for blood.
Same maces and clubs of the ottomans and the Mughals were minimalistic. The head of it wasn’t very big this would be inconspicuous however the flanges of European maces would really hurt. So my design for a mace for a vampire would fuse the two. A small head with good flanges.
A blunted executioners sword would also be good. Since they are noble in appearance I imagine some vampires would carry a sword of some sort.
Vampire 1: "Oh no! He's bleeding all over the floor!"
Vampire 2: "Ten second rule!"
kevnar loud slurping and tongue licking
"Hold on... let me get some sip"
*pulls out a reusable straw*
@@jamesbarnett5283 Now thats nice, classy
Would the ten second rule work with a silver floor???
Clerics: I can't use weapons that draw blood, so it's maces, flails, hammers, & slings for me
Vampires: *taking notes* Hmm yes yes I see
Thing is, anyone who says that blunt weapons don't draw blood doesn't really understand blunt weapons.
@@Stardweller1 Yeah, gary gygax, known medieval weapon buff really didn't know weapons. It's the principle of the thing bruv
Draw blood means blood spills out. Isn't the bleeding from a blunt weapon generally internal?
@@ZombieFighter95 I think it's the surface scrapes that can be nitpicked
Kaisergun if there is bone close underneath the skin it will open cuts
Wait .. imagine a beefy vampire come out of the woods and aim a Slingshot at you while laughing and saying "Let me show you it's features"
God I love that short beefy German man 🥴
laughs with more testosterone than an grizzly bear*
This comment is so underrated!
A beefy vampire is a obese one
@@chriswentz5197 And therefore a rich vampire. He had so much blood he's obese. In Asia, obesity was a sign of wealth.
I'm now imagining a vampire in Victorian London walking around with a nice solid cane. Classy.
I wonder what a vampire would look like in a modern day ghetto neighborhood.
play the game "Vampyr" which is set in Victorian London and you play as a Vampire ;)
It's disgusted as a walking stick
AC Syndicate with the Dracula coat and Son of the Dragon Cane sword.
Or how about a hermit living in the castle sewers with a walking staff
Cane.
Fancy accessory for everynight use.
Can be used as blunt weapon when food is stupid.
Blade inside for thrust only for more stupid food who fancy themselves a hunter.
I'd say a war hammer disguised as a cane. Or a mace head disguised as a simple metal walking stick knob. Hidden blade can still be optional but you're better off carrying a proper dagger.
Pretty much what I was thinking. It depends of how common Vampires are, time period, social class of Vampire in question, and overall society though. A cane and or sword, for self defense of course, would be very appropriate for an upperclass gentleman, slightly harder for a lady to pull off, but again depends on the society.
Most canes are also a little bit longer than a footmans mace or warhammer, giving greater reach. Due to the Vampires increased strength it can also be made of heavier woods and metals than normal, hiding its capabilities much like the Vampire walking with it.
@@jlokison maybe metal finger claws or rings for females?
though with their str, even just a sharpened pendant would be as strong as a dagger
i feel like vampires would just use weapons that enhance their own physical abilities
they don't really need swords cause their claws would be good enough slashing weapons to begin so they just pick smaller objects that enhance their claws like metal finger claws and such
I literally just made a comment about canes, then looked down and say this one posted 16 hours before.
The cane does not need a blade inside, due to the extra strength of the wielder the cane/mace can be solid metal and just have the bottom end being pointy.
This also fits when facing a dude in armor as the two main weapons against that are blunt weapons for bashing in the armor and thrusting slim weapons that targets the gaps in the armor.
One end for bashing, the other for poking - all in a nice walking cane that blends into the human world.
Another advantage of preventing blood loss is that it doesn't cause as much of a scene when a person just vanishes compared with when there is a huge messy pool of blood and a person vanishes (which means there will be less likely for Vampire hunters to come) especially useful when targeting people who nobody would notice if they vanished
I don't think this is the situation where a vampire would even need a weapon. Weapons are for defense against adventurers, when blood loss isn't that much of an issue.
Deadly people leave a trail of bodies, but the most dangerous killers we have no idea they exist.
@@Nethan2000 To be fair a dead vampire hunter in a city raises questions. Blood trails also draw hunters. So if a group of hunters is after you it would make sense to take them down 1 at a time with well aimed strikes and no blood loss to track.
Jo Viljar ) If your priority is to avoid causing a scene, you should really just focus on making sure the vampire gets to feed. He turns into a right diva when he’s hungry.
@@Merilirem The vampire hunters might stick closely together but then again either way the vampire benefits... either the vampire can pick them off one at a time or they won't be able to cover nearly as much ground making it much easier for the vampire to simply avoid them and hide from them
I like how Shad mentions one of the weaknesses of a vampire is a stake through the heart.
To quote one of the Draculas "Yeah, Who wouldn't that kill?"
That is quite an excellent point. Same thing with beheading.
A stake through the heart wouldn’t kill Dracula, vampires are all liars. Fun fact Dracula doesn’t die at the end of his novel. In the heat of the moment they rush the steps necessary to kill Dracula.
Well vampires are immortal, so something that can actually kill them is of great importance even if it seems like an obvious way to kill something.
Point being, vampires are especially weak towards that, if you tried to stab a vampire with your old kitchen knife, even if through his heart, well that wouldn't kill him.
Shad-Vampires have several weaknesses . . . steak to the heart . . .
Me-Isn't that a weakness for everyone?
Indeed, eating too much steak can be really bad for your heart even if you aren't a vampire :))
Stakes to the heart are a surefire way to kill a vampire
Vlad the Impaler staked his foes up on spears
Conclusion: Vlad the Imapler hunted vampires
The difference is that we can also die to stakes everywhere else :)
@@matrimalviarin5043 Impaling was usually wayy more gruesome than merely piercing the heart. They'd start at the anus and ram it through to the throat. It might hit the heart, but wasn't necessarily the target
I think he was just making a joke Xeras.
The Father of all Vampires in Elder Scrolls lore, Molag Bal, his artifact is a mace. It makes so much more sense now. Thanks Shad.
Personally I loved that weapon, it was my best one handed weapon, then again it could never beat wuuthrad with a frost enchantment which I used all the way till I deleted the game
It’s such a spiked mace though lad😂😂 so much blood. The point of his mace is it’s a symbol of punishment. That’s why it’s spiked 😂👍🏽
I should note that in the Elder Scrolls series, the Daedric artifact associated with Molag Bal, the creator of the first vampire, is a mace.
Yes and the name is so simplistic "The Mace of Molag Bal".
Flameroller, Pale Cislord ) Molag Bal is a Daedra of substance, not like that flamboyant Sheogorath with his Wabbajack.
@@flamerollerx01 *contemplates how to steal their gold for nocturne*
*does a Dagon and goes all Goro on everyone's ass*
@ I never liked Jyggalag. He completely ruins Sheo-chan! I was pleased to end the bastard in Oblivion.
Man, a taser would be a godsend for a modern vampire
It doesn't let me do this as an up vote but 👍👍👍👍👍 you made me laugh but it's very true that a taser would be a god sent for a modern vampire.
Shad: "What medieval weapons would a VAMPIRE really use?"
Me: "Depends, vanilla or modded?"
Damn lord or no dlc
Chocolate swirl
HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH!
"Depends, vanilla or modded?"
My brain: Vanilla Minecraft or modded minecraft
What he meant: I dunno probably something other than minecraft
@@thomassabalbaro1868 I'm assuming it's Skyrim
I want to add. If you want to go for the noble aristocrat looking and charming vampire. You can give them a reinforced cane with a fairly heavier and decorated weight in the grip they can hold in the open, and then a longsword in its sheathe. They will then have more options in most situations, look good doing so, and still be vicious when fighting.
I once got a cane from a flea market, which is basically a metal pipe with a metal skull on top. I imagine it would make a great blunt weapon.
How about a silver rod with a giant garlic clover head to bash others with?
Good for the hunter not for Count Drinkyoula
Even better, combine them. A cane-sword. The balance would be thrown off if the head was too heavy, but it would provide both kinds of weapon in a stealthy manner. Don't forget, the best way to avoid vampire hunters is to not be noticed in the first place.
@@Benjamin1986980 I have a hard time agreeing because the only thing that comes to mind is the sword flinging off by accident. It wouldn't be uncommon for nobility to have a seperate sword just on your belt and a cane in hand. At least in the renaissance period and beyond anyway.
Perhaps a battle-straw? Nay, a vorpal two-handed great-straw! Designed to suck the blood out of pike-formations!
Or maybe a walking cane with a hidden blade: all postive effects of a mace and a sword and still noone can see you're armed.
I now have an image of a vampire using a straw and trying to roll up a person like a near empty juice pouch to get all the red deliscousness.
So you mean a hollow rapier?
Like in Toriko manga)
It bothers me so much that someone already made this joke. I need to be a more dedicated fan.
What if a vampire were to use brass knuckles as a backup weapon? It focuses their punch power onto a small area and is unbelievably easy to conceal and use in a tight space.
They’d be useless to defend weapons, which is the only reason a Vampire would need weapons.
Id say with a vampires senses and speed that would likely be a rather good weapon for defense as you could just punch any attack out of the Way so long as it does portrude enough
@@s.owl9 well, let's just give the guy a buckler then. Can block things and can try to deal a haymaker with it
@@noahthebongoer Very sketchy and not every vampire is that op
@@erebys21 It’s been proven that you can punch with a buckler and it’s very effective. It would be nice to have a weapon with a bit more reach so buckler & mace would be perfect
I think the big thing is the armor a vampire(or any undead) could wear, they don't feel fatigue or any real pain since they're dead, and thus, could wear some extremely durable and heavy armor with minimal negative effects.
(pictures an enormous heavily armoured figure creeping up behind someone, reaching into a pouch and pulling out a small cosh, and daintily swiping it across the back of the bystander's head.) Ridiculous, but effective.
@@rogerramiussergeialexander5541 Don't need to, ive played elderscrolls games.
Little known fact: Shad once singlehandedly defeated a vampire with only a silver pommel and a holy trebuchet, before killing it with the first ray of dawn (which came from the highest machicolation of the Shadfort)
While wearing his finest gambeson and a kite shield. Both were passed down through his lineage and were part of his wedding suit. True story :))
But what about the...
DRAGON IN THE BASEMENT OF THE SHADFORT!?
how the hell did the first ray of dawn reach the top of shadfort?
@@santiagotorrezsegarra7790 It worked hard to get up there. It spent all day climbing, and it would like to be praised for its determination.
Even smaller known fact is that Jazza was in the corner the whole time doodling the epic battle.
Great, now I can only think of a 19th century London gang of vampires using blackjacks.
DIOOOO
The mace was actually the first weapon that i thought of due to a reason that you actually didnt even look at. Depending on how much stronger a vamp is they could run into issues with the weapons they use not having enough strength to survival their use and you dont want to be contently replacing your weapon. This was actually something that was looked at in the inheritance cycle after eragon was turned into a half elf. he was offered a mace due to their simplicity and them not really having an edge to protect. Now this would mostly only be an issue if we are talking vamp on vamp fights or if the vamp was up against an opponent with similar strength but i still think ti would come into play if the vamp was using a sword against a weaker opponent and didnt watch their edge alignment
thicker swords? keeps the noble aspect and most of the benefits at the cost of added weight and higher point of balance.
the kind of vampires he talks about won't have to worry much about increasing the weight a bit.
European blade but with the thickness of a katana? that seems kind of sturdy, or would the reduced flexibility make it too brittle?.
Another thing he was waffling on but not realizing is Vampires typically only drink Human blood so if they were fighting with non-humans would they really care about blood loss? With that said if they were fighting werewolves blunt weapons may not be nearly as effective.
I'd say in that situation a better weapon would be a War Pick or a heavy Halberd.
For fighting humans I think a vampire might consider a whip or chain that they can bind the human with to collect them for drinking later.
When he goes on about vampire hunters yes they probably would go with maces/swords depending on whether they're armored or not but I still think the chain idea would be more viable for a Vampire to use.
I think a vampire would have more intelligence than a human so they could theoretically create more advanced weapons than a human would. We could imagine Bolo guns, net launchers, sleep darts, things that incapacitated their prey rather than wound them.
Ew, Paolini, gorss.
I had this whole long discussion written out here, but then you covered everything I was going to say... Curse you Shad for anticipating possible objections and answering them logically and comprehensively!
In my oppinion the best "weapon" for a Vampire would be the walking stick/staff with a reinforce head to work as a hammer. Easy to disguise as a human with (specially as nobility) as its not technically a weapon, can deal with both armored and un-armored tagets without wasting the precious blood, can disarm/break arms easily with the hook-shaped head and even work as a thrusting weapon if the point is pointy enough, would work well on city setting due to overall legth and the "its not a weapon" thing... Im sure I can come up with more advantages to it.
One objection would be that it isnt effective as a defensive tool against cutting edge weapons but it wouldnt be a problem for strong vampires to made the stick out of metal or just reinforce them with it as seen many times as "ornaments" or decoration.
exactly my opinion unfortuanately u were faster in posting this :D
metal walking cane blunt except a small beak on the handle woudl allow it to use it with the lighter end kinda swordlike still having HUGE weight and power behind for fightign enemies the blunt side of the handle for caving in armored guards who have snuck up on you and the beak for when u want to open up the armor so u can finally get your meal :D
and liek you said the best thing ever noone would expect him of anythign since he is just walking around with a cane ^^
havnt thought about ranged weapon but sling works amazing i have to agree with shad on this one
id add that a sling is quite compact and easily confined.. sure doesnt really work underground or in narrow alleys..
Dumbass. A best weapon for vampires is obiously a Steam Roller
For me it depends on the setting: if your noble vampire is walking by the city looking for peasants for dinner, sure, a cane is a great hidden weapon to carry on.
However, if I include a vampire lord in a story, close to the end could happen a big battle between an vampire army and an human army, in this setting the lesser vampires and/or brainwashed slaves would fight serious and their master would hate to spoil a great amount of food. Because of this, for me, the bloodsucking army would use blunt devasting weapons and maybe armor to repel the invasors (because it's a serious battle after all, and what call more the attention than an army of nobles carrying canes to fight against a horde of heavy weponize humans)
@@danielmachado4389 sure, the stick might be a practical tool but doesnt really fit the "super powerful evil weapon" type.
BUT stick/staffs are also heavily related to magic staffs, so having your vampire character disguised as human with a harmless walking stick and change back to its demonic form with a huge magic cepter sounds like a cool trick to me.
Well they could always hide a thin sword inside that would give protection against cutting edge weapons and thrusting if needed.
I knew Molag Bal was onto something with his daedric weapon!
Amazing
The creator of vampires thought about what he was doing.
@Genesis Titanium skyrim has basis on real world things but its loosly based dont read too much into it
@Genesis Titanium In reference to what are you saying Skyrim "gets a lot of things right"?
Nah. Too many spikes.
Vampire Hunter comes up in full plate.
Vampire with a mace: "I do not like my drinks in a Can!"
His Friend: "Come on, five taps on the top to make it go fizzy"
His little 'Brother': "I call that Monster Energy"
Sounds like someone bumped into some Bruja anarchs. 🤣
Brilliant
Not gonna lie, content like this is why I really come here. You think outside the box. Also your knowledge of combat accuracy is useful. It's especially been helpful for my Fantasy writing.
Obviously the best weapon for a Vampire is the Mace of Molag Bal
No. A steamroller
@@bf2098 A man of culture as well
@@bf2098 Reject your humanity.
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Would they have a stone mask?
I don't know maybe the vampire should use the fork of horripilation instead.
Vampire hunter: alright lads tonight count vlad dies.
Vampire: *pulls out one handed buster sword*
And the other hand has a short buster sword.
OH NO!!!!
Impractical
Galgaldr it’s...a joke
@@deletedaccount3047 sry, clouds sword is so oversized and just silly that I can never see anything funny there.
Even though it conflicts with a lot of the traditional imagery of the vampire, I feel like a vampire who had trained in hojojutsu wielding a simple length of chain would be both tremendously effective against a wide range of opponents and REALLY fun to watch in battle.
A great noble weapon for a Vampire?
Bolas!
It's blunt, it's ranged, it's throwing, and also it ensnares the victims!
Perfect for a vampire out on it's a nightly hunt!
Why wasn't this considered alongside the sling?
Also, a Whip wouldn't be too bad of a weapon either, nor to inconspicuous.
So a vampire armed with Bolas, a Horse-whip, a fancy mace disguise as a walking cane. and fancy clothing.
Now that would be an interesting opponent.
I meam a whip isn't really that effective as an actual weapon. Sure it can wrap around stuff and it's hard to see where it's going, but it wouldn't actually do much damage against an opponent.
Hello, Mr. Bellmont.
I started by disagreeing with the whip until I thought about strangling too... Not the most effective but, since it's an usual thing I guess, easy to look like you're going to murder people for a litteral living
@@matthewcooper4248 Well a Vampire dosn't really need the damage potential from a whip.
It just needs to constrict and could be used for strangling.
The vampire itself is a weapon in itself, and the whip is just there to help limit the enemie / prey, prevent it from causing any harm, by disabling the opponent.
I good tackle in the leggs causing the opponent to fall over or a good hit at the weapon disarming the opponent.
And he's pretty much finished against a vampire.
@@Kameeho Possible sling as well. It is very easy to hide in a populated sosiety. Weapons can be exposed. Things like a war fan as well.
Shad, i keep telling you, stop giving them new idea to kill us, who side are you anyway ?
Edited: wow tks for all the like.
lols, I do do best weapons to fight them eventually.
@@shadiversity
But only after you arm them! Filthy traitor!
The camarilla of course. They own the establishment
plus vampires could pretend to be clerics hunting the undead with those maces.
@@Ed_man_talking9 True, but they´re usually just standing around naked dead people at night, so it´s pretty easy to spot them when they do.
Real quick fact, the reason why people said long ago that vampires couldn't see themselves in mirrors was because mirrors were made out of silver way back when. Nowadays, vampires probably could see themselves, since most mirrors are made of aluminum or stainless steel.
Well that isn't the only reason, but that is an interesting point.
I was told its because mirrors show the soul. And vampires dont have a soul anymore they are just walking corpses with the memorys of their former selfs
I heard that as why vampires don't appear on old black and white film.
@@krautkopf4101994 that's what I was thinking. though I doubt that this was a super common thought.
Gary Correia
No the main reason is mirror symbolise correcting oneself and positivity. A vampiric zombie would not like that symbolism.
What you are thinking about is the draught zombie which is the 9th daughter of the yellow emperor(or descendants) who couldn’t go back to heaven because she was tainted by the something of earth resulting in her looking hideous and thus dislike mirrors.
These two are pretty much polar opposite. The former is Yin, came from corpses buried improperly, the latter is Yang, result of divine heir (possible sun god) used for war.
Though the two share the same name. So it’s easy to confuse them
“I don’t really picture a vampire living in a hut in the Forrest”
Has a picture of Regis who lives in a hut in a Forrest next to a graveyard 😂
He said Often.
@@elfang0r he Said graveyard
I'd say a mancatcher would make sense for low ranked vampires or their thralls. Gotta keep the prey fresh for the master!
mancatcher for close combat and bolas for range weapon :D
the only real problem would be a mancatcher would not prevent the victim from screaming (for help or otherwise) now a simple gag would be easy enough to use, but as the mancatcher catches but otherwise doesn't harm the victim, they would be screaming from the get go
Now, Shad's ɡoinɡ to have to do a video "Vampire Hunter Re-Armed.
It is a must...
Also a Witch Hunter Video.
Well, one would assume that a vamp hunter would need to use their weaknesses. So we want silver plated weapons, and probably hardwood spears. They also may want to defensively incorparate crucifixes into their armor/shield/literally crucifixes everywhere. As far as a vamp hunter ranged weapon the classy crossbow should work, with either wood tips or silver coated tips, depending on weaknesses. Perhaps they would use execution weapons to decapitate the vampires. Or just vials of holy water.
Beyond weapons a hunter may want to otherwise change their lifestyle, going so far as to eat garlic every day and bathing in water laced with wolf's bane. Perhaps they would carry small trinkets to throw out and have the vampire count.
But we all know that the best weapon for a vampire hunter is an enchanted whip that can be upgraded into a magical morningstar flail of absurd length. Shad's video would be about ten seconds long.
For the witch Hunter flintlock pistols and rapier of course
And eventually a regiment of empire state troops
@@mathis6744 I agree. Sigmar Calls.
A Vampiric Mace? Sorry Shad, Bethesda beat you to it. *Mace of Molag Bal*
The Antediluvians chafe at thinking Molag Bal their kindred.
Yo fuk u rite
But that has spikes
Molag Bal is a sick fuck.
@Alex Wishardt
Spelled.
12:37, here Shad is basically describing Alucards sword from the Castlevania animated series.
That's a Picture of Alucard too
I’d kinda love to see a vampire just pick up a cobblestone and chuck it like a baseball at a hunter. *THWACK.*
kungfuskull Bonus points if done with a pommel
One thing I liked in Blood Omen 2 is that human-made weapons tended to break quickly when wielded by vampires, not being made to deal with the stresses of that strength and speed.
In hindsight, the fact that Kain would just brute force his way through armor with swords probably didn't help.
That's why Blade uses a titanium sword. Stronger and lighter is more important than sharper when you have superhuman strength.
@@geoffreysorkin5774 Titanium is only stronger than steel when compared by weight, steel is however much harder and titanium deforms and bends much easier. titanium has a high tensile strength, meaning it doesn't break easily, but it does deform much easier than steel, so the sword would bend much easier is made of titanium, and wouldn't hold an edge well. steel is just the better option, especially when a much higher force is being applied.
When the vampire attack happens Shadiversity will lead the human race to glory
The mandalorian Gaming Network if anything he has just gave the vampires the advantage
@@aaronwalters7194 he meant to a glorious conversion to vampirism
Are you sure? Shad was very concerned about our blood, maybe he is one of them.
He just gave the enemy a free lecture
@@rhett5058 Even the enemy loves a lecture from him.
Funnily enough, before starting this video I was thinking a warhammer, due to the fact that they'd be able to wield it with far greater speed and force than a human.
Warhammer when serious to defend your castle
The Staff/bat to hand and break some kneecaps of your prey :3
So you mean to say that Skyrim got it sort of right with the Mace of Molag Bal?
Underrated comment.
That said, the mace isn't technically intended for vampires, it's meant to tempt mortals into Molag Bal's service. Where as vampire's souls already belong to him. While you can obviously get the mace AS a vampire in almost every game, from a lore standpoint, the Mace would be wasted on a vampire, in Bal's eyes.
And then sort of wrong with Harkon's sword... though Harkon doesn't really go out hunting and has all his meals delivered so I'm pretty sure the sword is just decorative/ceremonial.
@@AmorphisBob yep and no, Harkon's sword is an ancient Akaviri design so i would assume he used it before he became a vampire
Just a reminder, another name for the mace of Molag in canon? the Vampires Mace...more for the reason of draining stamina and shit but still...
The Mace has been in the games since Daggerfall and has been called the Vampire Mace.
a good ol' fashioned pair of bolas would be perfect in almost any situation.
Came down to the comments just to say this myself. A much better mid-range weapon for a vampire looking for a snack than a sling.
Or just other weapons used for restraining or capturing targets, assuming you can count them as proper weapons: nets, ropes and chains (lassos, rope darts, meteor hammers, kusarigama, etc), blackjack/slapjack/baton/tonfa, and potentially whips.
Also a bit surprised shields weren't mentioned, as they can be used as an effective bludgeon, especially in the case you just want to concuss or neutralize an opponent without damaging them much.
Swords for combating other vampires.
maces for foods
Sword for vampire
Stick for food
@@manasameakuma bannana for tiger
*sharp silver tipped sticks for other vampires
@@essexclass8168 just becarefull when you use it or you could hurt your self, just get the silver tip as far away as possible
@@morenoradityan5169 so just like any other swords any human use.
"stake to the heart?" "Yeah well who wouldn't that kill?" Lol
A Lich?
@@beastwarsFTW Pretty sure they don’t have hearts
@@rythofthefourthhouse7104
Fair point.
I think terminators have physical hearts to keep their skin alive and staking the heart on one will just make it mad.
@@beastwarsFTW Terminators are the evil automatons from another reality right?
@@rythofthefourthhouse7104
Give or take, basically automaton skeletons with organic skin.
I mean a vampire would use piercing weapons right?
Or would they use blunt weapons to conserve the blood?
Why am I thinking about this?
Internet what have you done to me!?!?!?!?!
How abouta tri-edged blade? Wouldnt that give a l deep bloody and hard (or near impossible) wound to heal.
@@farmingsimulatordiyugf2846 I'm just wondering if they'd use the weapons to pierce the skin to get blood even though they have fangs or whether they'd try to minimize the victim's loss of blood. Like would they treat it like squandered resources or something?
@@a.t.t.g8359 humans would be just a meatbag to them (also to HK47 :) ), so blunt trauma to the head would me the way to go. Keeps the juices in.
You wouldn't use a shotgun, or even a crossbow, to kill a rabbit as it would destroy the meat. So a vampire should use blunt weapons for similar reasons; Why would a 1000 year old creature lick blood off the floor?
In conclusion; a cosh or blackjack is the way to go for a vamp. They're quiet, compact, deadly as heck, and about as blunt as you can get. (Also I'm 99% sure that they're illegal even in America, haven't checked in awhile though.)
Small blunt weapon for close combat in densely populated areas? Small... Blunt... Needs to end human rightly...
*Traps frantic human in alleyway, approaches, reveals hidden pommels, grins*
😂😂
Human's last words: You monster!
Brass knuckles.
Your honor, by the marks on his corpse, it's clear as day that this poor soul got ended rightly, tis vivid proof that there is a blood fiend among us, for it is the only creature capable of such monstrosity.
Think baseball pitcher with an ironman suit
Shad: I can really only imagine a vampire in a highly populated area
Also shad: uses picture of Regis a vampire known for secluding himself
I love that maces are actually the go to because some of my favorite artwork of vampires has been them in exaggerated thick heavy plate mail (why not, they have strength to burn) and massive maces. Blunt weapons are a really great weapon to use with super strength because they are more strength based, play to your strengths!
"For the average vampire"
> shows a picture of a Witcher Higher Vampire which are anything but average
Yeah speaking of oveerpowered...
I would say classic not average. Shape shifting, invisibility, turning into smoke, super strength and speed. They’re D&D vampire lords
But they're also impervious to all classic vampire weaknesses, and essentially impossible to kill; even burning one to ashes and the ashes into glass isn't enough to kill a higher vampire permanently. Daylight, garlic, religious symbols and stakes don't even tickle.
And at least how they're portrayed in games, weapons would be a hindrance for them, not help, since they don't fit their natural fighting style, at all.
As I said, D&D Vampire Lords.
I guess, but not very classic.
What about a truncheon (or any small club)? It would be good for knocking out fresh prey and inconspicuous.
Or, a cane. The cane head could be used as a blunt weapon, and it could be made into a cane sword. Like some canes from Victorian England. It would be useful against prey and threats, without being arousing suspicion.
After all, a vampire would be worried about attracting attention. A mace would probably attract far more attention (as it wouldn’t be that common outside of battlefields) than a truncheon or cane, fairly common weapons for self defence.
Sometimes I feel like a vampire. I hate the daylight, I'm very pale and I drink human blood for sustenance.
I'm aware of everything except the last part, so thanks for not sucking my blood when I visited last!
Matthew King and of course you dress extremely classy and and have an eternal youthful glow
Same, I even have the teeth…
mmm pretty sure you are a werewolf
That escalated quickly
Shad: "5-second rule doesn't apply to vampire"
*Alucard telepathically controls the blood of all of the dead people in London so that he can drain them from a mile away.*
No wonder why he disappeared for all those years?He got a terrible case of Diarrhea
There used to be a trend of blunt, hard rubber tipped crossbow bolts for rabbit hunting in the UK. They would kill even medium game purely through concussive force without cutting up the meat too much for better eating. Now imagine a vampire that could use a 1000 lb crossbow with a simple lever mechanism for quick loading with an upscaled medieval version of anti riot rubber bullets except so powerful they'd likely incapacitate even through plate armour ...
Pretty sure a flanged mace is not the kind of mace you want if you are dealing with unarmored prey, maybe just a nice knobbed mace instead. Bonus points for actually looking like a meat tenderizer.
With enough force and a bit of sharpening, those flanges can make lethal blades. Flanges only significantly reduce mass and glancing, not effectiveness against targets.
@@necromanticer169 A round ball style mace would be best methinks
if it's unarmed prey, a vampire would just use their claws or fangs
kind of pointless to swing a mace when you can go in for the kill already
The thought I had when looking at the thumbnail was : Armor
Imagine a Vampire properly trained in Armor movement and grappling mixed with the Vampires unnatural endurance, speed and strength. Who needs a weapon when you are a weapon ?
So... simply full-plate tackle your next meal?
Got to work up that appetite !
I also briefly thought of Gauntlets and fist weaponry which makes sense considering Strigoi fighters would have hundreds of years of martial arts experience.
In a city full of people it is important to go stealthy most of the time. Going ham and killing half the city/getting overpowered by numbers is not what a vampire wants. But in case he gets caught he might need a weapon to defend himself. Armor isn't silent, and it also stands out.
Now shad we need to ask the _real_ questions here...like:
Would a pommel thrown from a vampire be more effective? Or less?
Think about it.
Theory: The pommel unscrewed and thrown is an extremely effective ranged weapon; we all know this. But my question is _where_ does this efficiency come from. There are two possible reasons why the thrown pommel is so effective.
Option 1: the power just comes from pure kinetic energy. As in when the pommel is thrown heavy pommel builds up momentum before making contact with the target after which it then converts its kinetic energy into impact energy cause massive damage to the target.
Option 2: the power comes from divine intervention. As in when the pommel is thrown god himself imbues it with holy energy. Giving the pommel the ultimate power to crush the armour of the heathens and infidels; It’s quite simple! however, this can only work if the pommel is thrown by a holy knight in servitude of the lord.
Conclusion: really it depends on which of the theories is true. If the first theory is true then the pommel throwing tactic would be even more effective than normal due to the vampires increased strength and reflexes. In fact this technique might even be favored by the vampire race due to the fact that the pommel throwing tactic uses purely impact trauma to kill and therefore would not cause bleeding meaning that the vampires food would loose no blood.
If however my second theory was true then the pommel would not work in the hands of such a fowl disgusting heathenous creature such as the vampire in fact if the vampire were to even such as pick up a pommel the lord himself would probably turn the pommel to silver to burn the unholy flesh of the vampiric creature if not smite him from his kingdom with his holy might power and grace
@Leo Cook blessed metals like sliver or gold would work because depending on setting, vampires can be vulnerable to silver.
Well this is perfectly timed. I'm currently working on a short D&D campaign featuring vampires as the main antagonists. You have given me some great food for thought, Shad. Thank you. :D
I know that most people don't like to do this sort of thing, but a mechanized quarry (you would have platforms miving at fixed speeds running on timers) would make a great introduction for a tinkerer (II would love to hear your campaign ideas).
Heya same here sort of. I recently put a fully armed vampire bodyguard ("guardian") homebrew on dnd beyond. I was right there with the mace thought, but I felt in terms of crunch the warhammer was the best fit since it was blatantly superior and is one/two handed, and the vampire guardian keeps one hand free for grappling.
When fighting an OP vampire do the following: 1. Kneel down and pledge your undying loyalty. 2 After pleading for your life, Serve the vampire as their faithful servant for a few months. 3. After gaining their trust dismantle their home while they sleep, exposing them to sunlight.
Any other strategy will end in death
But what if pledging loyalty means potentially letting the vampire drain you of your blood at anytime he/she wants?
@@MrFredstt well, I mean if she's hot then I guess it's ok
MrFredstt why would they kill off an unlimited food source? In the long term it’s benefit them more if they kept a willing subject, it’s like having a cow you’re better off just milking it instead of killing it for steak.
What about a neck-light and ultraviolet flashlights.
there is a small problem in your plan...vampires can usually charm humans! you'll be loyal, whether you want to or not
Now I'am waiting for ,,best medieval weapons against vampires".
You mean "how to create UV-flame with a medieval technology"?)
Probably a hunting spear (has a crossbar so impaled boars etc can't get close to you) with a silver-inlaid tip. Also works against werewolves. Or a crossbow because range.
executioner sword
Crossbow with silver bolts, and ofc silver plate armor. Maybe a silver sword for sidearm incase things go melee of if you run outta bolts. Just silver everything, and maybe rub garlic on them before the fight for extra effect.
Really late to the party with this one, but I just wanted to add a point about surface area. Assuming the same mass and density, a smaller surface area is better for defeating armor. This has been discussed ad nauseum on a number of medieval weapon channels, but I was watching Skallagrim recently. He pointed out that a larger surface area is actually better for transferring momentum into the target. Something to keep in mind when talking about causing concussions, whip-lash, etc. Even a mallet when wielded by a vampire might not dent or crush a breast plate as much as a proper war hammer, but does it matter if it sends the man flying into a wall or into his allies. Same principle as "it's not the fall that kills you, it's the sudden stop."
*5 second rule doesn't apply to vampires*
I'm dying.😂😂
Hey Shad! Could you do an “under appreciated weapon” for the quarterstaff. I think people underestimate the power of this weapon :)
This needs to happen
Just watch LindyBeige lol
Jon M I’ve seen his video. It’s pretty good. I just want to know what is Shad’s opinion on them.
A silver dagger to aid in "political" problems within the vampire ranks
Fun fact the being allergic to silver thing is a more modern thing. In some cultures Vampires are not allergic to silver but holy objects repel them. In others your cross will do nothing. It all depends.
Besides Vampires can be killed by various things that would kill you.
I would like to see the effect of radioactive materials, like uranium.
@@John2r1 Regardless of what supernatural being you're facing, decapitation seems to always do the trick.
@@maximilienrobespierre7927 with the exception of ghosts thats true.
In most cases anything that would kill you will probably work. Even vampires are only immortal to death via aging.
@Leo Cook D&D sure but realistically running water does nothing to vampires though it found in some folklore about vampires that you can escape one by crossing running water. This ofcourse wouldn't stop a vampire. They would just find anlther way around if say you cross a fast moving river on a boat.
Second most Vampires in Europe where Christians before becoming vampires. So crosses and such depend entirely on the vampire and their own belief's.
Sun light also doesn't kill vampires at least not pure bloods.
The stake to the heart was originally supposed to pin them in the grave before decapataion. Granted it also falls under anything that will kill you will kill a vampire realistically even with superhuman healing factors.
So a stake to the heart = dead vampire.
A bulet to the head = dead or badly wounded vampire as humans have survived a bullet to the head with proper medical care.
Bullet to the heart = dead vampire . Decapataion = dead vampire, being burned alive = dead vampire. etc.
So Molag Bals weapon being a mace is actually correct? Thats awesome! [Molag Bal is the creator of vampires in Elder Scrolls]
Quarterstaff - Lindybeige, one second before killing the photographer. 1749 - Colourized
John Dee *1849 as the photograph wasn’t invented by that time
Shad: I like Vampires because Vampires have weaknesses
Regis and Dettlaff: hold my mandrake vodka
Died to a middle aged dude with a shiny expensive sword and some magic. Seems like a weakness to me.
@@atwcat9370 Regis was killed by Vilgefortz.
@@atwcat9370 correction, lost to GERALT OF FUCKING RIVIA.
FriendlyNeighbourhoodCrusader Geralt isn't a dude tho. Hes not human
@@atwcat9370 Spoilers for The Witcher 3: Blood and Wine
Regis never died, he was just turned to paste and had to regenerate over many years (Accelerated thanks to the help of Dettlaff), and while Geralt was able to defeat Dettlaff in combat (admittedly with some help from Regis), he wasn't able to permanantly kill Dettlaff. Regis revealed that only a High Vampire can kill another High Vampire permanently.
I think that a steel tipped cane would suit a vampire pretty well. It would fit right in with a Victorian setting, and it would allow the vampire to carry a weapon wherever he went without drawing eyes.
As a bonus, you can hide a blade in the shaft of it.
2 weapons, one classy look.
"For your average vampire..."
*Shows Regis from 'The Witcher', one of the most overpowered portrayals of vampires in fantasy lore.*
Maybe he wanted to show the type of thing he wanted to avoid.
A walking cane will be more suitable for vampire if they truely want to have a weapon .
A pointy end with heavy handle can truely knock most human down .
Fun coincidence: Vlad Dracula as a playable character in Assassin's Creed: Revelations multiplayer is armed with a mace (though he's not actually a vampire in that setting).
Basically you're gonna want a field hockey stick, and to kneecap everything
Well, it works. But if you're going for the kneecaps, you don't even need the stick. Kick the front of the knee to invert the leg, and down they go.
In The Dresden Files, it's very important to have a piercing weapon when fighting vampires of the Black or Red Courts because you can burst their blood reservoirs which limits their regenerative ability and other supernatural abilities.
"Are they strong enough to just crash hardened steel?"
They are in some setting. In the Witcher)(books and games) vampires are very capable of ripping hardened plates apart with just their talons.
Actually, in the Witcher in particular, most monsters can easily bypass armour either by ripping it apart or hitting hard enough it won't matter. That's why witchers don't use armour and focus on maximum mobility.
But... Geralt wears Chain
@@kharnthebetrayer8251 they still need some armor in case someone tries to kill them for being a witcher
@@musicandalltheprettybits2670 Fair point. I forgot about humans. Still, he's got big shoulder pads that'd really get in the way. Just a good suit of chain would be enough for most swords and the like from humans. I have no idea what his huge shoulder pads are for
@@kharnthebetrayer8251 In the books, he only wears light clothing and a leather jacket. The first game stick to that but 2nd and 3rd games had to turn a blind eye on lore to add more diversity in gear. Different, specialized schools of the witchers also were games inventions and didn't make a whole lot of sense: Bear school with focus on the heavy armour (for the reasons above) and especially Sign-focused Griffin school. Signs are just low-level spells every Aretuza's/Ban Aard's freshmen can cast with no effort. Witchers use them exactly because thats the best a non-wizard can possible learn.
Blow dart might be useful for a vampire, hide and paralyse their victims then drag to their lairs
Shad hellsing
Poisons are no good unless we are saying the vampire is immune to it as well. Whatever chemicals you are putting into the target will be consumed by you later on. Does not seem ideal.
True but a since most vampires are immune to toxins (being undead and all) they could easily injest the poison, hell it may even serve as a flavoring to the blood.
The real test would be if the vampire was targeting a heavily armoured target
In a lot of stories vampires don't really breathe.... I mean they are after all dead.
Exactly! so poison wouldn't affect the vampire so they could drink poisoned blood.
And depending on the vampire in question they could also leave the corpses in specific places to spread disease and add further protection against vampire hunters since no one wants to travel through a contaminated area except the brave and the desperate, thus still giving the vampire a steady food supply.
I think that it depends on what the poison does taste like. The vampires Are culinarist. Younger Person, like babies taste better because there Are no toxit in the blood ;)
So if the poison does make the food taste bad... then it is bad. Cyanid does taste like a almond, so I would think that that one would be actually guite good for hunting, but we should ask vampires themselves what different poison taste to them. They have enhanced Sense and that includes the taste, so maybe any poison would make food taste bad?
Any experts in here for good tasting poison?
Don't be silly Shad. The obvious weapon for a vampire in a urban environment is the battle cane. A cane made out of polished metal. That way you get the perfect combo of style, concealability, and effectiveness.
I really think this is the answer, it's small and can be as rigid as any sword made of similar materials, it can be massively heavy if it's solid. Picture the Chinese sword breaker designed as a cane.
At cane length moving at Vampire speeds the damage on target is gonna be shocking and it gains agility from not being quite so head-heavy.
They can be style appropriately or left as crude rods.
You can import basically everything else about their use from Blackthorn sticks or Knobkerries
I feel like a vampires strength and agility coupled with the ‘silent moving creature of the night’ aesthetic, a vampire could make great usage of throwing weapons. Even a stone, in the hands of someone who’s half decent at throwing, could easily kill someone. Imagine the destruction a silent and unseen vampire could wrought.
This can also be applied to open battlefields but I feel like vampires fight in their element such as forests or villages during the night, in which a vampire would have no difficulty dispatching any number of foes with no danger to itself.
I will cheat and recommend modern boxing gloves. The padding reduces the chances of causing lacerations and it can act as a layer of protection against silver and the such.
Hahaha!
The caestus would be the medieval equivalent there. A pair of gauntlets would probably also work.
give that vampire a knuckleduster
kickboxing gloves maybe
most vampires have super human claws
pointless to put them into a glove hinder their use...
Yes, very good argument Shad.
But, Counterpoint:
*SWORDS ARE COOL!*
*AND WHAT ABOUT DRAGONS!?*
Yes! What if a vampire has to fight a dragon?
Tomi Makirinne ) Or what if the vampire *is* a dragon?
Could you imagine a vampiric fucking dragon?
Why has no one touched on this?
@@damobeck1 My old friend, allow me to point you towards _Castlevania_ and the many beastly forms Dracula gains in the games. Best examples would be _Castlevania 64_ and _Lords of Shadow 2._
Have a nice day/night wherever you are. And remember to stay safe from those demonic bat people!
You forgot one important vampire combat situation, Vampire on vampire combat. Although humans and hunters are the main enemies, vampires are usually society creatures who use any chance/opportunities to climb the ladder and gain influence. They cant use the classic vampire hunter weapons but their weaknesses would remain. So this is perhaps where ranged/piercing weapons would work there? Rapiers/spears/bows etc
Are u not forgetting one of your previous under-appreciated weapons??? Aka the mancatcher
...
Mancatcher could be hollow with Spike at the end so Vampire can drink a person through it *haHA*
The gigantic sippy straw of death
@@royalripper7453 like a straw?
Man catchers did (maybe not all, but at least some) have spikes in the ring, causing blood loss.
@@StrakanDocrusReakal Some, but not all, so just get one without.
I know one Vampire that uses a whole Planet as his weapon.
Not just a planet, but THE planet
*[ THE WORLD ]*
@@atrep4585 What weapon would someone who can stop time use?
@@Djorgal Knives. A lotta them
No it's ZA WARUDOU
Vampires mace; "I named it, 'The Tenderiser.'"
The goodnight stick
What's awesome about this is that in Skyrim If you do the daedric quest for Molag Bal you get an enchanted MACE, and Molag Bal is also the creator of Vampires in TES lore, so shad's theory lines up perfectly! :D
Walked into this video thinking"Blunt weapons. Why waste food?"
Walked out of this video thinking"Yup."
Although I had not considered the sling for range. Nicely done Shad. : D
Xiu Yun I don’t know why the wouldn’t just drink it after the stab
With the vulnerability vampires have I am surprised you don't think to put the vampires in full plate armour. That would counter all vulnerabilities except possibly sunlight depending on how sensitive the vampires are to UV light. Otherwise good choices of weapons for them.
Joe R how would they drink then?
@@kristijanmadhukar516 maybe not the head, could possibly put a mail hood on or something in place of a helmet though
Joe R Bram Stoker states that Vampires DON'T instantly die when exposed to sunlight. What it DOES do is force their superhuman abilities into a dormant state.
@@kristijanmadhukar516 If a vampire is killing it's not always because they need to feed. After all, if they are a noble lord it would be the best protection on the battle field.
@@kevinnorwood8782 depends on the lore
Hi there Shad,
Don’t you think that your augmentation is a bit wrong in the First few minutes? You start off with saying that a vampire would not need a weapon to hunt its natural prey, that being humans.
Then you go on to say that in that case it is a question of figuring out what weapon would be suited to fight a human that is equipped and able to defend itself against a vampire.
If that is the case it is a question of self-defence for the vampire. They are already perfectly able to get their food if they want to. So the weapon would be a tool to defend their own lives(undeath). In that case its seems to me that the vampire would not worry about waisting the blood of his attacker.
Take this for example: I like to eat boar, whenever I can get it, but if a boar charges at me ill shoot it or stick a spear in it to ward it off. Self-preservation is more important in that moment than spoiling a potential meal. There are more boars in the world, I’ll get one later when my live isn’t in peril.
Just because a vampire might not use a weapon when hunting doesn't mean he doesn't have a dagger or sword at their hip in case things go south. " I'll just drain this cute blond before heading back to my crypt. OH GOD SHE'S A WIZARD!!! GOTTA PULL MY SWORD AND KILL HER QUICK!!"
On the flip side a vampire might want to whack a victim in the head to stun them so they don't fight back.
Vampire like having their bloodcake and eating it too.
@SuperSimba6: Of course draining a vampire's blood renders you vulnerable to the blood bond, unless you want to drain an elder vsmp's blood and risk being executed as a diablerist. Assuming we're going World of Darkness.
Greetings, Shad! I rather enjoyed your video on weapons a vampire might use in combat within a fantasy medieval setting. I also appreciate how you covered both vampire versus prey and vampire versus hunter scenarios. However, one area I would have loved for you to have explored in more detail is vampire versus vampire. For full disclosure, my wife and I write a historical fantasy series incorporating blood drinker races based on actual myths. In our series Morrigan's Brood, we often depict different blood drinker races coming to blows with other races of blood drinkers; such combat may entail one-versus-one to an army versus a competing army. The nature of combat varies depending on the time period of the specific story (iron age, late Roman Republic, Dark Ages, etc.) and the unique traits of each race based on their myths. For instance, a common thread would be that all blood drinker races required blood for sustenance but did not have to kill to feed (killing the victim is so wasteful, in my view). Also, some races fly while others can only run fast. Some races can detect the nature of other races, while others can only tell blood-drinker from mortal. What we focused on was the use of bladed weapons for combat between vampire races, as in our stories, the head must be severed in order to kill a blood-drinker. A blunt weapon, like a mace, would not completely kill a blood-drinker if it could be fed and healed after sustaining wounds. So, in each period, we had to incorporate bladed weapons relating to the age and culture. I will say that as we have not yet ventured into the middle ages yet with our writing, we will take seriously your comments on likely arms that vampires would use if they existed in the middle ages. Thank you very much for producing this video, and I look forward to seeing more wonderful content. Cheers!
Vampires would use guns and pirate ships obviously. I've been playing a lot of Warhammer 2 total war
vampirates? Damn, I gotta take a look at that game!
@@2MeterLP you're looking for the Total War Warhammer II: vampire coasts DLC. Happy hunting!
@@ubiquitouspanda4466 vampire counts in warhammer 1 are more classic vampire, and they have zombie dragons (answering the 1 question that matters)
Pathetic reavers if I ever saw them; my corsairs will trounce them at every turn.
Oh hail, the mighty. He's arising from the deep.
I Very much liked the lindybeige cameo, nice.
The reason Lloyd likes quarterstaves so much is because most of the wood used for them is rather beige.
What about a fantasy rearmed for Calvary? Gryphons, Wyverns, Pegasai would be very interesting to cover how Knights would arm themselves and fight on these beasts.
I geuss like in Vincent Segrelles 'de Huurling' / the Mercenary.
I would vote for the Irish walking stick, shilale (butchered the spelling I'm sure) has a good ball on the end for a mace. A hidden sword inside it would be neat.
What about Brass Knuckles or even just Gauntlets? For inconspicuous killing/hunting.
Id prefer a lead weighted cane. Combining style and practicality.
"For the average vampires" (then show image of Regis), c'mon! Regis is like one of the most powerful vampire in the witcher 3
Although, in overall, he is most "peacefull" one. He rarley fights, and isn't really good at it. He is average as worst of higher vampires, but better than any of the low.
That mace in your pictures has several blades and pointy parts - would break the "don't spill blood rule".
It would more likely look like the maul or like a club (not spiked) or a tonfa or walking stick.
Another great idea: armored gloves and helmets and knee protection and boots.
Or ... what about throwing nets or a lasso or whip?
He actually explains in the video that they are not sharp enough to draw blood, "something that doesn't necessarily have spikes but enough pointed ends to focus that force onto a condensed part"
Why not a blowgun? The poison or narcotics will leave there system eventually...
One of the maces shown was a round ball.
@@bigcoffinhunter5500 yeah but the mace he was showing while explaining was definitely more likely to pierce skin than a war-hammer
You forget to consider that vampire might use blood magic. In that case, they'd use a weapon which causes very spectacular blood sprays in order to shape the liquid to their advantage with magic. I think an ornate saber could be a cool choice.
Let's take Legendary weapon who are Also "hungry for Blood", a Muramasa, sound really cool too
That sounds like an incredibly stupid application of magic, and therefore Im glad he didnt cover it.
It's like waterbending, but worse. Far, far worse.
@@michaelcherokee8906 far worse, true, but thematic
Blood loss could actually be all but invalidated as a factor here because of two reasons: Immediate survival (escape combat>securing a meal) and variance in the amount of blood required for the vampire to survive, which depends on the lore involved.
We are obviously dealing with a fictional creature here. This means we invent our own rules for it, and our own explanation for how it works within the fantasy world we place it in. The basic idea of a vampire is flexible as all ideas are to some degree, we can design a vampire that is very desperate for meals - one that requires GALLONS of blood to survive each night, or we could go for a much more moderate design - one that needs maybe only a cup or two of blood from prey to survive. If we steer more towards the later design, this would imply that actually bleeding out an opponent in combat could be a very effective way of incapacitating them, which would enable the vampire to move in and begin feeding. You don't need to drain literally ALL of the blood out of the victim to subdue them, you could still theoretically manage to get at least enough of a filling for it to be worth it.
Not to mention the objective may be different when we're talking about a "warrior vampire" scenario. If we go by traditional vampire lore, then the creature would PREFER to avoid combat at all costs, using stealth or otherwise running away from people who can defend themselves. If prevented from doing this, the vampire would then be forced to engage in combat to survive, and because of that, we may not have to care as much about wasting potential food. Just kill the soldier standing in your way as efficiently as possible, and move on to a more helpless victim.
Vampires are also well known in many kinds of fiction for vanity, charm, and fear. They are often emotionally manipulative - sometimes to a magic, mind-control kind of degree, and often use fear tactics to terrorize and demoralize their prey. They are often shown to behave like sadists, but this may not be their true motive - there are reasonable advantages to behavior like this. If a vampire in some town is well known for using very scary slasher-type weapons that leave a huge mess, it can terrorize the locals and make them less willing to actually fight back. If the vampire can brutalize a few people, the cost would be a potential waste of a few meals, but the vampire would gain the advantage of convincing people to just run away more often rather than face such a terrifying enemy in battle. This is compatible with a lot of vampire lore because they're often depicted as creatures who love a little showmanship, often to a narcissistic and self-indulging degree.
If they're a small band traveling together, they might not want to spill no blood, and it might be easier to overpower a victim.
The basic idea of the vampire as it is in fantasy is plain stupid anyway , can't handle sunlight , but can walk at night under the moonlight ? Can't you see what s wrong there ? Does the moon produces any light or just reflects the sun's light ? ;) So day or night should end up just the same for those vampires :) Fire burns , either a zippo flame or a flame thrower , just takes longer for one to kill you :)
@@christophedohet8877 the light from the Moon is, as you said reflected. It is also much, much weaker than the Sun's own direct light.
By your reasoning, candlelight should slowly kill a vampire.
@@christophedohet8877 It's not the sunlight that kills the vampire, it's ultraviolet.
@@christophedohet8877 ultraviolet rays is what kills them. Moonlight does reflect uv but it's so weak, that human skin cannot trap it like humans do during the day, which is what causes sunburns. Vampires would not burn at night.
Flanged mace... I think a walking cane or stick would be enough and less conspicuous than carrying a mace
Good point but perhaps a hybrid then, a walking cane with a large knob on the end for the handle that would effectively function as a mace head.
@@shadiversity the Irish Shillelaghs is the perfect thing then
@@shadiversity Sounds like a shillelagh. Would at least look inconspicuous enough.
EDIT: Oh, SgtLoth already said that. Oh well.~
Whoa. Didn't expect a wild Lindybeige to appear in one of your videos, Shad. Even if it was just a picture.
I think an interesting choice for a vampire could be a whip. Doesn't cause significant bleeding, great for getting around an opponent's guard, & since they basically have infinite time to practice & master it, they could super quickly use it to disarm & restrain their target. It's also easily hidden when they're just walking the streets, so no suspicious looks from passersby as to why you're carrying a mace with you at all times. Doesn't really hold up against an armoured foe, but for civilian prey, or unarmoured hunters, it seems to work pretty well.