Underappreciated Historical Weapons: the Goedendag, spear-club
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- Опубликовано: 26 авг 2024
- In this episode of Underappreciated Historical Weapons we look at the Goedendag or the spear club, where it comes from, why it was developed and how effective it is.
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What if it got in the gaps of the armor?(where you’re supposed to see from)
@@fishyfishyfishy500akabs8 the eye slits? Everyone will become John Cena.
Know that i liked this post but
Alas i cant
Also
SPOILERS!!!
Okay... if someone could turn the book into a D&D campaign ... that would be insane!
Gross fake account with 0 subs with a pin on it... not cool man.
I can see a dwarf using this while yelling "I SAID GOOD DAY!"
If only Goedendags were available as weapons in LOTRO. I want to use one with a dwarf toon now.
*crunch*
Your forgot to say Sir at the end there my good sir.. Dont be rude :)
Ik zei goedendag!
I feel like this would be a perfect weapon for a dwarf.
When you're a Flemish, medieval peasant going to war but your mother always told you to greet stranger nicely:
*Goedendag intensifies*
Schild en vrienden :)
when your a peasant and you don't feel like dragging out the pitchfork and cleaning it after a long days of picking "things" before going into battle of the weekly disgruntled riot in front of the regional overlord/despots manor you can always count on the Goedendag to get the job done with out much fuss or adverse effects to the wielder in question
@@Eugensson may you please translate for us non-multilengual people
@@scottmantooth8785 you know, just the weekly riot
@@scottmantooth8785 Who said you need to clean it puting stuff on it is what the vietnamese did and that worked well.
Burglar breaks into Shad's house
Shad: Goedendag!!!
"Goedendag meneer! Bent u klaar om gestoken te worden?"
@@WittleSofi are you Dutch?
@@maximilianolimamoreira5002 misschien wel misschien niet
@@WittleSofi i find Dutch cool,but only know the basic
@@maximilianolimamoreira5002 but yeah I am mostly Dutch, Sofia de Nijs, how may i be of service?
Hi Flemish history major here! I did my thesis on the weapons of war used in the early 14th French-Flemish war. There are a few important sidenotes to make. At Courtrai the Flemish made extensive use of pike men to stop the French cavalry charge. It is believed that 1 in 2 of the Flemish infantry made use of a longer pole arm (pike, glaive, whatever, ...) The 'goedendag' as u call it was excellent to finish of armoured opponents when the initial charge was halted/disrupted. The weapon fell out of use fairly quickly it seems. I believe that in the sources of the battle of Cassel (1328) its not mentionned anymore. (This I am writing out the top of my head right now) But it was certain that after Courtrai and Mons en Pévèle that weapon is way less mentionned in the sources. Whereas pikes, spears and longer poleweapons gain more renown in the sources. This corresponds also with the Flemish formation trend of fighting more in pike formations from the 1330-1340.
Secondly: in 'Diets' the language spoken in 13th and 14th century Flanders the weapon was called a 'gepinde staf' or simply 'staf' which translates to spiked stick or stave (I believe). Only in French sources the weapon is called 'goedendag' (many variations exist). And only the French attach this story of saying hello to someone before mauling/stabbing someone to death. It is sugested that the word goedendag actually comes from 'goede dagge' which means 'good stabbing tool'
Anyway, dont want to nitpick but spread some more info around our history. Keep up the good work!
Wow, thanks for sharing this!
Woah. Thanks for the notes bro. Really appreciate adding even more info to an already great video.
german here, I say "Guten Tag" multiple times a day and now I'll always think of Shad wielding a huge spearclub when I talk to people
His accent is arggggg.
Guten Tag is wayy to limiting. I just use Moin all day long xD. But yeaaah i believe if someone says Guten Tag to me now i too will think of Shad xD
@@Guderian2 Grüß Gott is even better. that you can safely even say to superiors without them scolding you ^-^ (military is fun, trust me)
@@18947ful If i should go Bavaria, i will go full Bavaria: "I Said Servus! Du Saupreiß!" xD (and i am saying that as someone living on what has been Prussian Territory)
@@Guderian2 Well gotta adapt ;) Freistaat Bayern x3
When you go full circle and become your own sponsor.
Hey, whatever works.
That's how it used to be. if you didn't sell your product, nobody bought it.
what a weird profile picture... is there a meaning to it? would you care to explain that meaning?
@@silkwesir1444 It represents the end result of communism
@@agoodone6446 a good one indeed
This proves whoever came up with this weapon had a great, dark sense of humour. Like calling a pistol handshaker or the salute.
Story i heard is that the Dutch speaking Flemish peasants would carry this thing like a garden tool. And would approach French soldiers with 'goedendag' and if they replied in French or with a French accent they would kill him
@@deeznutz8320 he said that in the video
Pretty sure the ones who invented it didn't name it that.
This is very much the sense of humour in Flanders. Almost every major war in European history had some engagements in Flanders. This left them with a somewhat sardonic outlook.
"Salutations!" *Shots them*
Flemish here! I was excited to see this video and I really appreciate it. The goedendag was famously used in the Battle of the Golden Spurs (1302) which was basically between France and Flanders (mostly peasants and artisans, but that would include blacksmiths). As far as I remember being told, the goedendag was particularly effective when used against chevaliers. The battle itself was fought in Flemish bogland (wet, it rains sooo much in Belgium, and muddy) so the terrain worked against the chevaliers and their charge wasn't quite as effective (On a sidenote, supposedly the French infantry was doing fine until the knights decided they wanted their part of the glory and finish off these upstart peasants). Now the goedendag came in quite handy against a knight on horseback whose charge was broken and is amidst infantry. The reach and angle from the infantry's point of view meant the goedendag could be used to stab upwards into the gap between the top of the breastplate and the underside of the helmet, stabbing the knight in the throat/upwards in the head. Now supposedly the name goedendag, according to how I was told, came from the stabbing in the throat and the subsequent 'nodding' of the head from the knight as if to say 'good day, sir'. Also, quite correct on the militia, particularly in Bruges where the artisans' guilds were quite prominent and a lot of trade came in, so wealthy city, in one night, the Flemish militias went on a hunt for French speaking citizens, besides 'goedendag' which would be basically impossible to say if you spoke French only, the other slogan they used was 'schild and vriend' (Shield and Friend), again one of those phrases only a Dutch/Flemish/German speaker could pronounce properly, if you couldn't do it, you were killed.
That's why 'Schild en Vrienden' has been adopted as its name by a Flemish extreme-right xenophobe group with militia aspirations... :-(
@@PierredeCur Very true =( they also like to use the Lion of Flanders as a flag, and take over the Flemish national holiday, turning it into some kind of right-wing extremist rally, usually at Ypres. They always like to use symbols of power and patriotism.
They forget that Walloons fought the French side-to-side with Flemish in the Battle of the Golden Spurs.
As for the flag, they prefer the battle flag with the black tongue and claws instead of red, as in the real Flemish flag because it was the one chosen by the Nazi and collaborateurs during WWII.
One small detail: knights didn't have breastplates yet in 1302. They would have used chainmail against which the goedendag is even more effective since mail only really protects against cutting.
dude its dutch lmao
Bartender: So what’ll it be?
Shad: Fantasy.
*Patrons turn around in their seats.*
Shad: Err…Hard Fantasy?
Well, "Grunts!" by Mary Gentle is a fairly Hard Fantasy. Bunch of Orcs discover Modern weaponry and start spouting off "Full Metal Jacket", just before the big battle between Good and Evil.
@@lockwoan01 In that case wouldn't it be 'Ard Fantasy? :)
@@joshuawhitlock896 Actually, It would be "Oorah!" Fantasy, complete with a bunch of Orcs charging in with M16s and AK-47s, going full-auto! Afterwards, one would rip the head off of a fallen enemy, and they'd start kicking it around. If said head gets destroyed.....
Good news! You've made the Orcball team! Bad news is! As the ball!
Child: "Mommy? The neighbor is saying "GOEDENDAG" and stabbing the foam man again."
Mom: "Look away little one"
this made me laugh audibly.
IT IS TOO LATE MOTHER I HAVE ALREADY REACHED THE MACHICOLATIONS
@@chucklesdeclown8819 Because you're a dipshit.
@@Loddfafnisodr Geez...Settle down and buy a vowel.
this made me chuckle
Can anybody tell Shad REALLY REALLY loves this weapon? The enthusiasm is dripping profusely here.
Its been 2 years and he recently had a tier list video. His enthusiasm sparked right back when this weapon came up.
18:07 Goedendag connects in club mode, the spike flies off and one hears a scream of mortal agony off in the distance. Shadversity quickly and furtively exits stage left. ; )
When you realize your weapon is just a giant number 2 pencil that you left in the pencil sharpener to long
Without an eraser.
Michael Galvan that would be a very nice paint job for this
@@malikdespanie4344 In this case, the pencil is also the eraser. xD
MEEEEHOY MEEEENOOOIIIII!!!!!
Wiseacres FINLAND!
So, he now have a big pokey stick that doubles as a large smaking stick.
Nice, i'll take 20.
You cannot take 20 on that type of roll.
@@nevisysbryd7450 no, but you can buy 20 on the cheap and hand them out to some hired thugs.
The spear isn’t just attached to cap. It is driven into wood as Shad’s is. BUT the key function of the cap is to prevent the wood grain from splitting. If you drive the tip into a tough substance it tries to drive it deeper. The attached cap prevents this, and even a non attached cap that allows tip to drive slighter deeper the cap will stop the end from splitting and releasing tip.
Not gonna lie, when I saw the thumbnail, I thought it was one of those sticks you use to pick up trash on the side of the road,
I'll never look at volunteer trash pickers the same again
*Heart hurts in Flemish*
Hahahahahajahahahaoh f**k
WHERE IS ALL THIS LITTER COMING FROM
@@Zillzbillz I SAID GOOD DAY, LITTER!
As a Flemish boy myself I always heard it was called "goedendag" because the enemy first gets stabbed in the gut by the weapon. In result they bow forward, like a friendly bow as a form of greeting. After the greeting they would get smacked on the back of the head with the club.
Another Flemish here. I heard they stabbed it in the throat. As that was about the only place that was unprotected by the armor. So the French knight ended up looking as if he nodded "goodday" before dropping dead off his horse.
As a Dutchmen I've heard neither of these stories.
as a unicorn i wonder how i typed this 0.o
@@ruhalfoyls With great difficulty I'd imagine.
@@Artrysa ik denk dat aleen Vlaamse mensen deze verhalen kennen
One day Shad decided to go clubbing...everyone had a Goedendag.
The beauty of this joke is lost on so many people.
"you get a goedendag! you get a goedendag! everybody gets a goedendag!" - oprah winfrey if she was a 14th century warrior 😅
Breaking News : A man with a pointy large stick threatening the entire club
Leon Kootstra I died of laughter I can just imagine Oprah in mail armor giving out spears
Haha! Good one 😁
GOEDENDAG SIR
“What?”
I SAID GOOD DAY SIR!!! *stabs person*
The original vibe check
Well, I mean, it would actually be "Goedendag meneer" but I get what you were going for.
TheUltimateLemonGuy, why thank you French man.
@@silvertheelf I'm not French, I'm Flemish, and I actually hate the French language.
TheUltimateLemonGuy well
I always thought the Goedendag was an underappreciated weapon too. It seems like a versatile and inexpensive weapon that would be ideal for damn near any medieval battle. Makes one wonder why they weren't used more often.
18:17 "I've taken safety precautions, there's no one else around"
Not anymore, there isn't.
who wouldn't want a neighbor who talks to himself and flails dangerous weapons around. rofl 😂😂😂
@@cgamejewels me. I would join him.
Well when you say it like it sounds like a threat
Meanwhile in 1300.
BREAKING NEWS LOCAL WEAPONPRODUCER INOVATES BY PUTTING A SPIKE ON A CLUB!!!
French are sweating wine
"sweating wine" HA!
@starfield2 English longbows did a lot against the french during the 100-year war.
I read "French are eating swine"!
Nice one 🤣.
However, regarding longbows, you really should mind the gap between gameplay and historical accuracy. They're different. There's a reason why the bulk of that sweet longbow action is concentrated in the early parts of the Hundred Years War, and why the French ended up winning the War. Case in point, longbows weren't as relevant as you think they were in this war and... weren't really that concerning after, since firearms rose to prominence. The Spanish Tercios proved far more deadly, lasted longer, and were more dreadful than longbow companies.
Hmmmm...
Anti-Armor Mace Arrows.... No amount of armor is going to protect you from pepper spray in your eyeballs.
The famous Dutch utility weapon combining spear, club, staff, mace. The Swiss made one that also included a bottle opener, flat bladed screw driver and nail file.
And another that was a spear, axe, and pick!
Gotta love the human mind sometimes, whenever we need more effective weapons, it always comes back to some variation of a pointy stick. Heck, even when guns came about, it didn’t take long for the problem of their effectiveness in close quarters to be solved by putting a pointy bit on the shooty end
"How is this better than a spear?"
*goes through the chainmail*
"Oh, I see."
You can't bonk someones's head with a spear
The two main forms of handheld weapons throughout history:
1. Pointy stick
2. Big stick
It was bound to happen.
You forgot
3. rock
4. rock tied to stick
@@jlokison And let's not forget:
5. Rock with pointy thing tied to stick
Its genius, I tell you. Pure genius.
@@jlokison rock without stick is just big stick without stick. Rock on a stick is a sharp stick.
You could mention swords too, but they are just sharp sticks too, so rocks certainly dont count.
Thats the joke. Every weapon is either one of those two, or both.
Now we have Big pointy stick.
This commentary is brilliant. Sometimes, a simple (and relatively inexpensive) weapon can be as effective as a vastly more expensive one.
"I love my gambison so much, I don't wanna damage it"
Relatable AF
Shad, concerned: "Getting hit like that, ugh, you'd KILL someone!"
Me, an intellectual: "That's...why I'm here."
I died 😂
Better "why you think I came all this way?"
I love your pfp lmao.
Break his kneecap, stab his visor - hope his day is still good and well.
@Dragon born Ok, I have the scenario in a battle:
Flemish: Goedendag meneer.
French: Aaaaaaaarrrrrr
**SMASH
**
Flemish: Ik zei GOEDENDAG MENEER!
Haha i've actually bulid one of these as a kid/ preteen with a friend in their workshop. Only longer and with zombiemovie nails to the side.
My parents were horrified
I can see why. X,D
Goedendag is actually pronounced with uvulas trills (harsh guttural sound you hear in languages like European Spanish, Russian and Dutch/Flemish) I’ll transcribe it as kh for non-IPA (international Phonetic alphabet) users.
It’s more pronounced like ‘khuyendakh’ than ‘goodendag’ in Dutch, and Flemish is the same as far as my knowledge.
Of course, this is not a rant, nor is it in any way negative, just some feedback and I’m sure it’ll be helpful 😊
Thanks for reading
It is with an /u/ (oo) sound in dutch. In formal standard dutch you would pronounce the d as a /d/ but in casual speach it is indeed often reduced to a /i/ or /j/
Recently I have been introduced to the Goedendag in a fantastic Germanic based strategy game called "Battle Brothers"
(In Steven Fry voice) "Oh Hullo!" *BONK*
I'm sure it's actually very much appreciated among rodock crossbowmen.
Mount & Blade!!!
It's almost harvesting season!
That’s a nice head you have on your shoulders!
I will eat from your skull!!!
@@rollochairbreaker230
Less talking, more raiding!
0:41 "If you like your magic epic and hard....hard, meaning, hard magic, as in...err...hard magic rules..as, as...as in.....umm.... *[Shad.exe has stopped working]*
In Hai to Gensou no Grimgar, someone named his one-shot-kill technique "Domo!” which meant thank you, in Japanese XD
Fun fact: Domo doesn't only mean "thank you". Its very versatile to the point that you can make a whole conversation simply using the word. So in the right context, it can be used as a greeting. So "Domo" in the context of his finisher move could mean "Thank you" or "Hello"
I was wondering if anyone else was going to mention Grimgar...
I think they were being sarcastic when they named it "good day," because people back then were snarky bastards like we are today
Yeah I always assumed it was a case of intentional blatant irony, cause that thing is likely to seriously ruin somebody's day.
Germanic humor, like naming a giant battle tank the Maus (mouse).
It certainly wasn't the shiboleth used by the Flemish against the French garrison in the Bruges Matins, because the phrase they used there was "schild en vriend" (meaning "shield and friend)", or possibly " 's gilden vriend" (meaning "friend of the guilds"). The two are pronounced almost identically in Dutch, so there's some ambiguity.
They probably launched an internet poll to name it and the inevitable ensued.
If you faced an armored knight with one and lived it WAS a good day.
"Good day" as a name for a weapon.
I never thought "Ol Painless" would be beaten.
try "Fluffy Bunny"
How about the Austrian version of;
Guten Tag, which is " Grüss Gott!" which ironically translates to
"Greet God!" so it's not only a greeting and send off, but a kill quote as well.
Imagine the renegade/rogue crusaders using that line whenever they ambushed someone, would be fitting wouldn't it?
Goedendag. As in good dagger. Good weapon. Contemporary called "gepinde staf", pinned stave (cfrt. quarterstaff). Never used as a pike, too short. Used in combination with pikes. The latter stopping a cavalry charge, the goedendag used to neutralize horse and knight. Hence the length of the goedendag varies by period. Always a bit longer than a knights sword, giving advantage. Needs to have metal cap, to fence of a sword blow that would otherwise split the wood from the top. The concept of a club becomes popular as the knight starts using plate armor, beginning 14th century. Heavy blow will inflict damage without the need for penetrating armor. Popular weapon with city militias who trained the pike-goedendag combination in large formations as they ware often confronted with cavalry armies. Believe that a goedendag was tailor made to the soldier much as the quarterstaff and used in the same way, though heavier. Not unlikely that sports as baseball, cricket or even golf evolved from militia training games with such weapon.
AoE2 newest expansion has it for their new Civ, the Burgundians. The unit is called Flemish Militia.
So glad Shad figured out why they had caps. Many axes, picks, and other tools to this day use a cap or ring for such reasons.
Also, those wooden cannons
Plus that's probably a historically accurate demonstration of how the first guy to do so thought "hey I should stick and end cap on this thing"
Shad: More information about the spike later in the video
Me: Get to the point!
Daniel Adamczyk that’s the idea, the point.
in Finland we have a saying "Hyvää päivää kirvesvartta". It literally translates to 'good day ax shaft'. That could mean something like the Goedendag, but it doesn't though. It just means two people speaking about totally different issue in a conversation.
"Goedendag meneer."
"What?"
"Goedendag, speer in uw hoofd."
My character " I've brought my weapon."
Allie with a spear " that's a stick "
Me " a stick with a spike."
A pointy stick good sir!
I mean that could describe a spear
@@pixelsheep8939 Noooooooo, a spear is a looooooong pointy stick. Or a loooong stick with a knife on the end. O.o Knife is different from spike. More flattish.
@@grayeaglej sounds to me like you got a spear broken in two
I received my copy of your book yesterday. I like the about the author section which simply states "He likes swords." I will be starting it today and will share my opinion with you.
What about DRAGONS?
@@markhorton3994 That is the only question that matters.
Nice how Shad demonstrates at the end of the video what the metal cap on the weapon is for (next to preventing the wood from splitting when using it to stab).
Ok, I have the scenario...
Flemish patroler: Goedendag meneer.
French: Pardon, qu'avez-vous dit?
*SMASH*
Flemish: Ik zei GOEDENDAG MENEER!
[laughs in bruxellois]
To some weapons, chainmail is no longer armor, it becomes just a series of linked holes.
Well.... yeah...
I am not an expert - but as mail was mostly developed to counter strikes and blunt attacks, it also started the whole development of dedicated stabby stuff.
@@robertnett9793 no, no, no.
Mail was made to counter CUTS.
Its even weaker against blunt weapons, because it doesnt absorb the impact at all.
The thing that counters blunt impacts is the GAMBESON
@@Archimedes.5000 Yes and before the mail and before the gambeson, your shield was there to protect against almost everything, and did a fantastic job. You could say that armour was actually your backup protection for the stuff that snuck past your shield. Which I suspect was mostly cutting or blunt attacks since they come in at weird angles. Stabs are more straight line and easier to block with a shield. Of course if you were out flanked or hit a wall of spears that could be coming at you from multiple directions......things got messy.
@@MrBottlecapBill well yeah, piece of steel/wood blocks everything
"Now good day."
"But Shad!"
*Spear club to the face* "I SAID GOOD DAY!"
Haha 😂
And that's how it was used in midevil times.
Isn't this a reference to Fez from that 70's show?
@Star-Lord420 : You got it in one my dude.
But what about dragons?!
Who's here after the Burgundians released in Age of Empires II DE with their OP goedendag users Flemish Militia?
I’m here from mount and blade
In the Netherlands, the Morning star and the Flail are often mistaken for a Goedendag.
By the way, the way you pronounce Goedendag is:
G's have a rough growling sound
OE is pronounced as OU like in the word You
But how does it fare against Dragon? We can not forget about the Dragons! Good day Sir!
If you can use Dragonrend, then possibly, if not, you had better be good with a bow.
Watch the skies traveller.
Too flammable.
Ah, mixing two catch phrases of shad in on statement
Depends on how thick his scales are
You really need a separate channel called Shad's Shop or something (like you named some earlier videos) where you go through the process of how you build these things. Even if you feel like things like this spear-club were too fast and uninteresting, people would be fine with just a 5-10 minute video, I bet a lot of people would watch that channel. Only if you the time for a second channel though what with extra editing and so on.
I really do second this; you're missing an absolute trick Shad.
I mean, you're already making the weapons anyway, It'd be so fun to be able to see you making them.
It doesn't need a seperate channel, it could be here with the audience or alternatively as bonus content on Patreon
Would love to see that, I watch people making weapons all the time on RUclips. So watching one of my favorite RUclipsrs doing it as well would be really cool.
@@iamwhatitorture6072 Doesn't _need_ its own channel but I think it would work better with RUclips's algorithm. These would still be a different sort of content that could attract a different audience, distracting potential Shad viewers who aren't into his workshop videos. Plus, with the outpout Shad lately has, additional workshop videos could overcrowd people's sub box, potentially tiring people into not watching all of his vids. Bonus vids for Patreon is always a possibility but attracts a much smaller audience of course
Shad's Shed? :)
me: "Hello there"
person: "*says something other than General Kenobi*"
me: "so uncivilized" *stabby stab time*
Hundreds of years from now: underappreciated historical weapons, the hello there
Shad, your goedendag reminds me of an improvised weapon idea I had a while back. On a discussion for improvised weapons produced during an emergency, one person was suggesting making a wooden spear and fire hardening the point. I suggested instead of fire hardening, simply drill out the center of what would be the spear, insert a short piece of mild steel round bar, and then sharpen it to a point while tapering the wood haft. It's a lot less work, and produces a much stronger point without being time or resource intensive.
"Good day Sir!" THAWACK!!! Anyone else find this extremely funny?
I can't help but hear the coconut bonk.
Vibe check
Yep
Yes
Yes
Ah. I love it when a medieval soldier walks up to me and says Goedendag with his mouth and giant spear-club.
"Oh, Bonj.." *SMASH*
Ah, I remember this weapon when I'm cutting down Rhodoks with my Bastard Sword.
are you life of boris fan playing mount & blade? :D
Hahaha playing mnb right now I was thinking about the rhodoks the whole time during this video
Never. This and a heavy crossbow for the win, go Rhodocks.
"good day sir"
enemy: *continues persuit*
"I said: GOOD DAY SIR!" *wacks enemy across the face*
Shad: The Goedendag doesn't need a cap
Editor: The Goedendag did, in fact, need a cap
I love this series, never before heard of this baseball-spear, I hope you find more of these.
Now we must take a baseball bat and stick a spike in the end so Lucille can have a friend o.o
This test was not historically accurate, because you didn't shout "Goedendag!" before pummeling the dummy.
you mean... *pommeling* the dummy
Just mount a pommel of mass destruction on the end.
To end them righteously.
@@QoraxAudio And some *machicolations*
@@bulldowozer5858 *MACHICOLATIONSSSSSS!!*
Lol the pommel goedendag will probably fit through the machicolations to rain terror upon thou enemy.
“The spear club”
Personally I prefer “splub” but that’s just me...
Add another couple spikes and it becomes a splubork.
"Spleab"
“Clear”
I hope to make a series that utilize weapons like these. Thank you for making these videos, they offer a great way to find such weapons and do more research.
of course the Australian does a video on a weapon called a G'day
Aussie here. I didn't even think about that. G'daying is just instinctual to us, I guess
A little more work and it'll probably work as a didgeridoo too. It's about the right size.
He should write "G'day" on it!
the cap also serves the function of preventing the wood to split when you thrust.
Edit, note to self. watch till the end before commenting.
I was thinking the same during the video, when i reach the end i was like "I knew it!"
Obviously, and its the same on every other weapon with a wooden shaft. Which makes me wonder about axe behind him because it doesn't look like that axe has an eye, instead the axe is fitted inside the wood and then riveted into place. I haven't looked closely on that axe but if i'm seeing things right i doubt it would stand up to much punishment when its built like that.
@@Lappmogel It's a prop, made out of wood. He tried to get it to look like Kratos' axe in God of War.
@@ozkan576 I see, thanks
Shad: "Getting hit like that... ach it would kill someone."
Me: "I believe, That's the frickin Point"
He's right about metric being the right way to measure. We need to get with the program here in the USA; we're the only ones who use the "standard" measurements.
We are officially metric. We just have the freedom to choose whatever system we want to use. Metric sucks, therefore the US Customary system (which is based off of SI) of measurement prevails. But hey, you want to spend the several billion dollars it would take to convert to metric to be like the cool kids... Me, I have some better suggestions to spend the money on, say, healthcare for everyone, or an updated rail network, or roads that aren't 86 percent potholes, or bridges that aren't on the verge of collapse, or dams that are mechanically sound...
But hey, yeah, lets replace all the signs in the US for no reason! And buy new machinery for everything as well!
@@Mostlyharmless1985 right now I'd be happy if you just changed from "MURICA!" back to "USA" again.
Why would we want to be like other countries?
@@MachineMan-mj4gj Having a global measurement system is not about being like everyone else. It's about strength in unity. You know unity? you should, otherwise I urge you to look up the meaning of the letter U in USA.
@@TheKarmak Unity, not conformity. The US should go out of it's way to not be like other countries, otherwise what's the point of The American Experiment?
The problem is, the catchphrase of any character that uses it will automatically become "good day".
Cyril Gigee And where is the problem with that sir?
In no way is this a problem, my friend.
@@Fyrebrand18 Fair enough.
*"Oi, you got a licence for that tool on a stick?"*
There's a tax for that !
*Whacks officer*
See, no more tool on a stick... hello?
@@bulldowozer5858 If I was drinking something, my computer would be fried right now.
Hey just come here man to Merica where ya dont get fined for that
*Loicense
That description of your book at the beginning... I have never heard a better one. I need your book now.
I'm going to be getting Shadow of the Conqueror via Audible on Dec. 9th when my next credit is available! The fact you got Michael Kramer and Kate Reading to narrate the story is AMAZING. I spent so many years of my life listening to the Wheel Of Time audiobooks that their voices are like 'coming home'. Can't wait to check it out.
I bought the paperback and finished it last weekend. It is one of the best high fantasy I have read in a long time. I can't wait for the sequel *nudge nudge*
People: The spear is just a pointy stick
Goedendag: Hold me
Well... It's still just a pointy stick. Just one that can easially murder someone to death.
It's awesome when people get clever with their memes. XD
For some reason I couldn't get past the first part without hearing Eric Idol's voice.
Then picturing him running away yelling "See!? I told you!" while John Cleese drops a half eaten banana and gets clubstabbed.
"Hold me". You win over 9000 internet points. Is very good
Hold my bier…?
I love how passionate he is. Adorable. Haha
@Shadiversity
I was about to comment "The metal caps are usually added to prevent the wood splitting." right before it happened in the video.
Those caps are very common in woodworking tools with wooden handles.
The level of detail and passion of these videos make me feel bad for many of the so called "experts".
So True. Even R. Lee Ermie did a Katana vs. Longsword video. But I think that he Favored the “Ka-Tan-Ah” too much. Plus used a cheap rip-off metal chest plate. And Cheap steel weapons.
Flemish peasant to French knight: YOU LOSE. GOOD DAY SIR.
Can you imagine Wonka whipped this out during that scene.
Augustus Gloop would be the only one who'd know what to do... maybe.
In dutch and flemish, the expression “goeiedag” or “goedendag” litterally means good day, but it can also be used as an expression of fear or excitement. Like “goeiedag! What the hell is happening there?”
I think I found my new favorite weapon, a spear and club combo is exactly what I was looking for and I didn't even know it!
So instead of pommel throwing, we now have long range good day spikes.
That thing needs a Pommel to throw
'Sees a Dutch word being used in one of Shad's video's'
My Heart: "Yeah! Dutch!"
'Hears Shad's pronunciation'
Me: _"oh honey no"_
tbh Dutch pronunciation is kinda the opposite of obvious
@@BigMek456 It's obvious if you're dutch
@@ToonedMinecraft Well most people aren't dutch, so you can't just assume that they know the pronunciation
I had to look up the pronunciation. Then I had to look up one of the IPA characters, because I'd never seen the initial consonant. ":gargle:U-den DA:drier gargle:" is what I wager "goedendag" sounds like to most native English speakers.
@@savagetapioca1672 That's honestly pretty accurate actually
Can one imagine a police report after this man successfully defends his home/family against intruders? "We had knives. But he had just finished a video and had gambison, mail and a long pointy stick. We didn't stand a chance."
Rip to all robbers
The proper way of doing measurements, indeed. Yup, don’t mind metric myself here in the States.. glad you had fun presenting this item
Nobody:
Shad: **brutally murders a dummy and giggles like it's Christmas morning**
Also, totally grabbing your book on payday!
What do you mean nobody? Shad is a man who follows the long established American policy of crackimg things with a big stick. Truly a man of wisdom and culture.
@@hookedblades6471 Too bad he's Australian
@@benthomason3307 Evidence that this wisdom is so great it has spread throughout the world!
Shad: "Long, hard, shaft", "Penetrate."
Me: giggles like the most immature person alive .
You are a very naughty Hobbit Jerkins.
I wanna like this, but you already have 69. So I won't.
I too am forgoing giving you a thumbs up, so as not to deprive you of your current 69 likes.
So you didn't notice when he said "you might have trouble pulling out".
Careful... Watchful Mommies may flag the video as inappropriate! :P
Admittedly not reading back 4500 comments but as a pike pole user from Canada I could have told you the importance of the end cap right away. We use pike poles for log wrangling with a spike & hook end given a coarse thread by twisting the square stock. That is now screwed into a handy pole through a cap to keep the end from splitting under the pressure because the wood that lends itself to long poles also splits along the grain easily.
Love the weapon and the pike wall part is easy, they "took a knee". It makes sense with the reach of the weapon and the fact that lots of horses are scary as hell but their "blind spot" is low-down buggers that dont move easy and have a stick that allows the ground to stop a horse for them.
What! I thought the Goedendag was a flanged or spiked mace...
not a thicc spear
I am so scared right now.
Common confusion. That would be the morning star/morgenster.
A thicc spear. Yes. This is best name.
Thicc spear wins today's internet award.
Yeah that's a common thing, I think something got lost in translation at one point and when people talked about a pointy club they meant this thing and instead it got depicted as a spiked mace.
Stop it's not thicc there is no butt.
Interesting, I think there may be two stories being confused here. This is what I heard in my history classes (I'm Flemish) : The phrase used to weed out the french was Schild en Vriend (shield and friend) which is very difficult to pronounce by a french speaker. Right now, the phrase is being appropriated by extremist right groups. The name Goedendag was kind of a joke used by the french cavalry because the weapon was the common greeting on the battlefield. The flemish troops called it the pinned staff.
I heard from pops that the same trick was used by the finns against the russians except they were told to say 1 2 3 and if he mispronounced it he'd be shot. Idk about how accurate it is but it seems possible.
Really interesting comment thank you for sharing.
So they didn't actually say "GOOD DAY SIR" and bash them in? :(
At this point there are so many theories surrounding the origins of the Goedendag name that we'll never be sure. The name probably only came into existence after the battle of the golden spurs (and maybe because of it).
I'd highly doubt that the name was coined by French knights though as they didn't speak a word of germanic languages.
The phrase "Schild en vriend" is also uncertain, some say it was " 's gildensvriend" (friend of the guilds) which makes more sense.
In denmark it was "rød grød med fløde" ø=oe
Honestly, the idea behind your book got me interested, Kramer and Reading got me to buy it with no further questions.
The thing about using the spike to penetrate the armor plates, if the weapon does get stuck on the enemy and the enemy survives, the enemy now has a very uncomfortable pole sticking out of them hindering their movement.
Me: a big fan of spears
Me when is see this weapon: I think I'm in love
Should've been
Me: *happiness noises*
I was not expecting the Axe reference, pretty good use of it
Nice to see someone make a video on this. I'm from flanders and I know this weapon very well !! Very nice that you mention my history and culture. Thank you!
Gambeson? Good day, sir!
Chain mail? Good day, sir!
On a horse? Good day, sir!
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Plate? I Said Good Day Sir!
what a polite gentleman.
Plate helmet? Good day sir!
Why does this sound like in infomercial tagline of a product sold on tv? Either that, or a pretext before a Trivago joke comes out.
There are multiple sources of flemish people using language (especially the g sound) to seperate french from felmish people during the flemish-french wars, so that is probably the right explenation. (For another example see "schild of vriend" from the guldensporenslag)
13:08 - "the tip is made from a roofing punch - used to make holes in corrugated iron." colourbond - you made the right choice.
Thank you for the idea! I have a nice billet of oak that I split from a fallen white oak years ago . Now I know what to use it for!