Underappreciated Historical Weapons: the Billhook or Bill

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  • In this episode of Underappreciated Historical Weapons we look at one of the most iconic polearms of the medieval period, the Billhook or Bill.
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  • @Thaumogenesis
    @Thaumogenesis 5 лет назад +3398

    Underappreciated historical weapons: every pole weapon ever.

    • @irugelgumiho5195
      @irugelgumiho5195 5 лет назад +62

      acurrate

    • @skylarheitzman7958
      @skylarheitzman7958 5 лет назад +181

      You mean every weapon that isn't a sword, spear or I suppose axe or mace. While I don't think axes or maces are exactly underappreciated, they are definitely undersold how good they are, and underused in pop culture. Spears as well I'd say.

    • @ruben307
      @ruben307 5 лет назад +63

      put a useful tool and extend the reach with a pole seems to make most stuff better. A Billhook or a knife or whatever else they think is good.

    • @darkblood626
      @darkblood626 5 лет назад +97

      It's like if people of the future ignore the machine gun.

    • @guntherdoesaliltrolling5757
      @guntherdoesaliltrolling5757 5 лет назад +99

      The Virgin Sword vs The Chad Polearms.

  • @ItRemindMeOfHome
    @ItRemindMeOfHome 5 лет назад +245

    It seems like there's two ends on the spectrum of "Farm Tools Turned Weapons".
    On the "Mostly Useless" end is the Farm Scythe, which the Europeans admittedly tried to find combat applications for given how widespread its use was.
    On the "Ridiculously Useful" end was the Billhook, a tool which accidentally proved so useful that, when most of Europe was beginning to move towards the arquebus and pike, the English kept fielding formations of billmen and longbowmen.

    • @chrisgibson5267
      @chrisgibson5267 5 лет назад +8

      1. Source staff.
      2. Source farm scythe.
      3. Remove scythe blade from handle provided.
      4. Attach blade to end of staff.
      5. Hand it to your levies.
      www.londonremembers.com/subjects/monmouth-rebellion

    • @lordfelidae4505
      @lordfelidae4505 4 года назад +16

      Chris Gibson yep. Scythe blades just need to be re-oriented to make it a terrifying polearm.

    • @skell6134
      @skell6134 Год назад +4

      ​@@lordfelidae4505Yeah
      War Scythe
      Literally scythe blade rotated vertically and basically just a two-handed sword

  • @pirateraider1708
    @pirateraider1708 5 лет назад +1836

    Medieval Shopkeeper trying to sell billhooks: "It's a versatile, cheap, and effective weapon."
    Medieval college kid forced into war: "You had me at cheap."

    • @TheArklyte
      @TheArklyte 5 лет назад +109

      It's great for opening tin cans too!

    • @ryankunst668
      @ryankunst668 5 лет назад +95

      Like that time Cambridge University declared war on the town of Cambridge.

    • @sevenproxies4255
      @sevenproxies4255 5 лет назад +36

      Fetch me some turnips as well. I'm gonna need some cheap field rations for this war.

    • @konstellashon1364
      @konstellashon1364 5 лет назад +11

      GS Abridged?

    • @Cahirable
      @Cahirable 5 лет назад +26

      Anyone in a medieval university was doing well enough to afford a more expensive and prestigious weapon. They were known for using swords and bucklers rather than polearms.

  • @Tadicuslegion78
    @Tadicuslegion78 5 лет назад +557

    Medieval Sergeant: What is that thing?
    Medieval Peasant soldier: Wot? This? This is me bill, I use it to trim hedges.
    Medieval Sergeant: But can you kill Frenchies with it?

    • @CazadorSlayer
      @CazadorSlayer 5 лет назад +147

      Medieval Peasant: Well, it kilt me neighbor Robert when he tried te fuck me goat, so...Ye?

    • @robertdevito5001
      @robertdevito5001 5 лет назад +53

      @@CazadorSlayer Robert attempted no such thing!

    • @CazadorSlayer
      @CazadorSlayer 5 лет назад +56

      @@robertdevito5001 Ah, of course not. It was Roberto, his evil twin! That dastardly fiend!

    • @oneofmanyparadoxfans5447
      @oneofmanyparadoxfans5447 5 лет назад +22

      @@CazadorSlayer Was he really that desperate?

    • @CazadorSlayer
      @CazadorSlayer 5 лет назад +48

      @@oneofmanyparadoxfans5447 Robert(o)'s wife died of the Black Plague last spring, n' he was banned from the local brothel after he stabbed another patron with a pitchfork fer buyin' his favorite girl, so...Ye. Ye he was.

  • @shadfacts6465
    @shadfacts6465 5 лет назад +1562

    Shad Fact: Shad has sworn off Volleyball after a slight miss understanding about the term "Spiking the ball at the other team".

    • @ASmartNameForMe
      @ASmartNameForMe 5 лет назад +53

      The creativity behind each of these facts, is this just what you do in your spare time?

    • @影山平ら
      @影山平ら 5 лет назад +65

      @@ASmartNameForMe you can't make up something which is real.

    • @ASmartNameForMe
      @ASmartNameForMe 5 лет назад +31

      @@影山平ら oh yeah? How did we make our accounts?
      We made them up, *and they're real**

    • @影山平ら
      @影山平ら 5 лет назад +25

      @@ASmartNameForMe you are a man of intellect

    • @Usammityduzntafraidofanythin
      @Usammityduzntafraidofanythin 5 лет назад +5

      @@ASmartNameForMe "Deyz real honey." *snap snap*

  • @Benzy670
    @Benzy670 5 лет назад +159

    I love the idea of just calling your weapon, “Bill,” like it has a mundane name. I’d have two of them so I can call the other one, “George”.

    • @stein1919
      @stein1919 5 лет назад +9

      not Ted?

    • @DieGoetterdaemmerung
      @DieGoetterdaemmerung 5 лет назад +15

      In german it's called a Roßschinder which translates to something like "horse tormentor"

    • @nikmenn2751
      @nikmenn2751 2 года назад +10

      @@DieGoetterdaemmerung ironically it was made to torment the horseman.

    • @sameerthakur720
      @sameerthakur720 2 года назад +4

      Call one Clinton and the other, Gates.

    • @ericlayton8888
      @ericlayton8888 Год назад

      Surely the other should be Ben after Bill & Ben the Flowerpot Men?

  • @AdamSmith-jb2lf
    @AdamSmith-jb2lf 5 лет назад +1346

    *opens every attachment on a Swiss Army knife
    *puts it on the end of a stick

    • @user-vp5dn3uz8t
      @user-vp5dn3uz8t 5 лет назад +33

      😂😂😂
      TOO TRUE BRO

    • @falsefight
      @falsefight 5 лет назад +30

      Where's the corkscrew, though? Nail file?

    • @user-vp5dn3uz8t
      @user-vp5dn3uz8t 5 лет назад +25

      @@falsefight the world may never know

    • @lars0me
      @lars0me 5 лет назад +64

      @@falsefight Thats how it connects to the stick

    • @akezhantoleukhan2510
      @akezhantoleukhan2510 5 лет назад +10

      larsme great comment

  • @juliahenriques210
    @juliahenriques210 5 лет назад +140

    "Someday I'm gonna be a Haaaaaaaalberd... But today I'm still just a bill."

    • @scoman91
      @scoman91 5 лет назад +14

      I understand that reference.

    • @kevingooley9628
      @kevingooley9628 5 лет назад +2

      @@scoman91 me too!

    • @mvmlego1212
      @mvmlego1212 5 лет назад +4

      Those were the good old days. Now they just do everything executioner's orders... I mean, executive swords, uh...

    • @WhatsTheTakeaway
      @WhatsTheTakeaway 5 лет назад

      Giggity!

  • @alkatron768
    @alkatron768 5 лет назад +1000

    Shad, YOU are underappreciated

  • @wildtanuki6556
    @wildtanuki6556 5 лет назад +101

    I love how some of the most interesting weapons are formed from field tools.

  • @doctorofallrats
    @doctorofallrats 5 лет назад +490

    What's better with a sharp pointy stick? That's right, a sharp pointy stick with other pointy sticks on it! What's not to love?

    • @Gauntlet1212
      @Gauntlet1212 5 лет назад +5

      I want one!

    • @오주환-b1n
      @오주환-b1n 5 лет назад +3

      Ratman Jeff: What's not to love?
      Me: The fines for an illegal weapon.

    • @incredibilisman2909
      @incredibilisman2909 4 года назад

      Knifes with other knives are also good. But that's the Kpinga which a completely unrelated weapon.

  • @SuperDipMonster
    @SuperDipMonster 5 лет назад +220

    Seeing some of these weapons, I'm surprised *anyone* survived.

    • @WardOfSouls
      @WardOfSouls 5 лет назад +53

      "Let's stay away from all those guys with the pointy things!"
      *cannon has entered the chat*
      "Let's get as close to those guys with the pointy things as we can!"

    • @joefollo4891
      @joefollo4891 5 лет назад +11

      @DefinitelyNotDan that’s not how history happened

    • @lordfelidae4505
      @lordfelidae4505 4 года назад

      @DefinitelyNotDan
      You sadden me, you chloroplast deficient birch wood buttplug.

    • @ondras5241
      @ondras5241 4 года назад +4

      @DefinitelyNotDan Actually it was the opposite, the "whites" meaning Europeans became so prominent because of gunpowder. Ottoman Empire, Mongolian hordes etcetera were causing major problems to Europeans, until they gained this huge advantage in guns thanks to weaponizing gunpowder (needless to say, gunpowder was firstly weaponized by the Chinese, but the Europeans were the ones that really shined in using it)

    • @mikefule
      @mikefule 4 года назад +7

      Serious answer: in any war (apart from the very few that were motivated by raw hatred) most warriors survive. Enemy soldiers have a value as hostages or slaves, and who is going to work the land you've captured if you kill al the peasants? In fact, most warriors never kill anyone and most weapons are never even used in combat. Think about it: 10,000 men on each side. At the end of the battle, the victors have lost 20% and the defeated have lost 40%. 6,000 men out of the 20,000 present have been killed, and 14,000 have survived. If only 6,000 have died, no more than 6,000 people can have killed anyone. The first lot to be killed were taken out by missile fire, often before they ever managed to close with the enemy. Some heroes maybe killed 2 or 3 or 10 enemies, meaning that someone else on their side did not kill anyone. Most warriors carry 2 or 3 weapons, and use 1 by preference keeping the 2nd and 3rd in reserve. War is about manoeuvring, siege, threatening, marching, retreating, occupation of prime sites, bluffing, and eventually negotiating a peace. You only meet in open battle if you feel sure you'll win, or if you are trapped no other choice. The weapons were nasty, the wounds horrendous, but most were carried all the way there and all the way back again without needing to be used. I have a jack and wheel brace in my car just the same. I hope never to need them, but I'm willing to if I need to. :)

  • @zvonimirtomac7896
    @zvonimirtomac7896 5 лет назад +758

    Some blacksmith: So what weapon do you want on a wooden staff?
    Knight: Yes.

    • @ls200076
      @ls200076 5 лет назад +55

      @Ebiegberi Adonkie you: Weird comment.
      Commenter: no

    • @edwartvonfectonia4362
      @edwartvonfectonia4362 5 лет назад +28

      @Ebiegberi Adonkie nobody:
      Adonkie: Yes

    • @dreysantillan
      @dreysantillan 5 лет назад +36

      @Ebiegberi Adonkie looks like someone has no sense of humor

    • @deadmansdeeds3787
      @deadmansdeeds3787 5 лет назад +22

      ​@Ebiegberi Adonkie You made a similar joke a few comments below are you trolling or just that dull?

    • @undyingUmbrage
      @undyingUmbrage 5 лет назад +15

      @@Skedge THaTs nOt HUmOuR

  • @iansmith4702
    @iansmith4702 5 лет назад +159

    "Bills and bows!"
    Common English call to arms.

    • @scottmantooth8785
      @scottmantooth8785 5 лет назад +7

      whoa!...a Billhook modified with a small crossbow on the pointy end? ...how awesome would that be...

    • @wahoo2384
      @wahoo2384 5 лет назад +5

      No, the length of the bill hook is the body of a 5,000 lb crossbow

    • @GargoyleBard
      @GargoyleBard 5 лет назад +6

      No, a ballista that shoots bills attached to giant rubber bands (gotta get that hooking action in somehow)

    • @scottmantooth8785
      @scottmantooth8785 5 лет назад +11

      @@wahoo2384 something of that magnitude would definitely qualify as a hand held siege weapon...something that might be wielded by a troll employed by the Ankh Morpork Watch

    • @haillobster7154
      @haillobster7154 4 года назад +1

      Bills before bows.

  • @MrPanzerCatYT
    @MrPanzerCatYT 5 лет назад +310

    Mounted opponents have left the chat

    • @AVGyerra22
      @AVGyerra22 5 лет назад +6

      Lance: NOT YET.

    • @camper1749
      @camper1749 5 лет назад +7

      You're not a real mounted opponent unless you can destroy billmen with ease.

    • @derrickstorm6976
      @derrickstorm6976 2 года назад +1

      @@camper1749 you're not a real billman unless you can destroy a mounted opponent with ease ,')

  • @thegreatsilverone1629
    @thegreatsilverone1629 5 лет назад +177

    Thrusting is very useful - shad 2019

    • @Darth_Enigma
      @Darth_Enigma 5 лет назад

      XD underrated comment

    • @graywolfdracon
      @graywolfdracon 5 лет назад +6

      Well he does have several kids......

    • @robertdevito5001
      @robertdevito5001 5 лет назад +8

      He's not wrong, without thrusting, humanity would've gone extinct by now, as well as all mammals

    • @michaelharder9737
      @michaelharder9737 5 лет назад +1

      @@robertdevito5001 there are other ways to accomplish the task, but humans seem to be the only ones who employ them.

  • @danc6167
    @danc6167 5 лет назад +327

    everyone: name a more iconic Bill than Nye.
    Shad: hold my water.

  • @PHENOXSPARTAN
    @PHENOXSPARTAN 5 лет назад +458

    No wonder people named their kids after this.

    • @zigzaghyena
      @zigzaghyena 5 лет назад +28

      You jest but that almost definitely happened.

    • @Matagu1
      @Matagu1 5 лет назад +21

      Swiss people name their kids Bill after Wilhelm Tell. Wilhelm or female version Wilhelmina are many variant names for the nickname "Bill". Wilhelm Tell is the most Legendary figure from Switzerland. :3

    • @PHENOXSPARTAN
      @PHENOXSPARTAN 5 лет назад +15

      GhiraLink Nice to learn. I was joking, but that’s a cool fact to learn.

    • @neilwilson5785
      @neilwilson5785 5 лет назад +6

      I don't know many kids called Shadiversity but I'll take your word for it.

    • @LibertyGryphon
      @LibertyGryphon 5 лет назад

      Not to mention the most heroic pony ever.

  • @reichspepe1587
    @reichspepe1587 5 лет назад +104

    Holy Sigmar, bless this ravaged weapon!

  • @CephusSmith
    @CephusSmith 5 лет назад +24

    Another point to consider, billhooks (given their simplicity) were also faster to produce than most other comparable medieval weapons. This is a significant advantage if one had to suddenly and rapidly provide arms to a large number of soldiers for a war.

  • @crukih7527
    @crukih7527 5 лет назад +682

    My girlfriend won't let me buy a billhook for house defence reasons. Please talk sense into her :o

    • @NeocrimsonX
      @NeocrimsonX 5 лет назад +9

      Lol

    • @someaussieguy140
      @someaussieguy140 5 лет назад +117

      Crukih at this point I think it’s time to start thinking about whether or not you want to stay in that relationship.

    • @bigredwolf6
      @bigredwolf6 5 лет назад +23

      What country do you live in? Lol. As awesome as that would be, studies have shown you’re 5x more likely to be injured defending yourself with a weapon other than a firearm. I’m pretty sure you’re just joking, but I’d rather you be safe than be on the news for getting killed for trying to defend yourself with a billhook.

    • @crukih7527
      @crukih7527 5 лет назад +84

      @@bigredwolf6 But what if a burgler breaks into my house wearing full plate mail? How am I meant to defeat his armour and end him rightly? :(

    • @bigredwolf6
      @bigredwolf6 5 лет назад +76

      Crukih Well, if you’re an American you’re obviously going to have a cannon filled with grapeshot pommels at the top of your stairs. Need I say more?

  • @CanisMythson
    @CanisMythson 5 лет назад +52

    Honestly, I expected you to cover this sooner. Billhooks are FANTASTIC weapons, and really deserve to be heard of and seen. Such a shame everyone is so obsessed with swords that they don't realize that swords are essentially sidearms, for the most part...

  • @-Pathos-
    @-Pathos- 5 лет назад +216

    Bane of my existence when im a cavalry in Mordhau

    • @Kkey884
      @Kkey884 5 лет назад +53

      This is why I’m a billhook Main. Your agony is my joy.

    • @angelmin8819
      @angelmin8819 5 лет назад +23

      HAVE AT THEM BOYS

    • @aralon4510
      @aralon4510 5 лет назад +4

      Good.

    • @ls200076
      @ls200076 5 лет назад +1

      @@Kkey884 Neej mi lord

    • @A.ManAlone
      @A.ManAlone 5 лет назад +7

      One of the reasons I got Mordhau in the first place was because it had obscure weapons like the billhook and executioner's sword.

  • @Riot076
    @Riot076 5 лет назад +12

    Fun fact about billhook: in Polish we call it "gizarma",which term seems to origin directly from the French word for it,which is "guisarme",which you would literally translate to smth like "mistletoe weapon"

  • @shiro_the_trap2513
    @shiro_the_trap2513 5 лет назад +70

    "Here's my polearm, I call him Billy the Hook. I must say something though, he hates horses so he'll often catch the riders, no idea why, he just does"

    • @ForestofCicadas
      @ForestofCicadas 5 лет назад +3

      Actually, targeting the riders may mean that he likes horses. Since yoinking the rider off the horse is a way to take care of a mounted enemy without hurting the horse.

    • @shiro_the_trap2513
      @shiro_the_trap2513 5 лет назад +1

      @@ForestofCicadas I guess, it's just that he often says that he hates horses so I usually just go with that

    • @H.G.Halberd
      @H.G.Halberd 4 года назад

      @@shiro_the_trap2513 actually in german they are called (amongst other names like hippe) rossschinder which translates to horse ruiner (or horserapist but lets ignore that), also i own a halberd, i named it bob

  • @blitzkrieg2928
    @blitzkrieg2928 5 лет назад +26

    Knight : time to charge
    Billhook: maybe you should be more careful next time

  • @Echowhiskeyone
    @Echowhiskeyone 5 лет назад +21

    I started playing AD&D many years ago. I was amazed at the number of pole arms. This is what got me interested in historic weapons, especially weird looking ones and how they developed.
    Researching pole arms is as frustrating as fun. The internet simplified the searching.

  • @ErikMello96
    @ErikMello96 5 лет назад +67

    Underappreciated weapon: the Flip Flop. Mothers across the world used this weapon to smack their kids. Effective at both close quarters and at a distance!

    • @retrygames4129
      @retrygames4129 4 года назад +2

      No don’t tell them about it , you’ll doom us all

    • @aidanwilson1028
      @aidanwilson1028 4 года назад +1

      The dreaded Chancla strikes again

  • @alicecarter3742
    @alicecarter3742 5 лет назад +58

    I don’t know where..... I don’t know when...... but somewhere in my D&D world a large group of Billman has been created

  • @AdamCeladin
    @AdamCeladin 5 лет назад +30

    Awesome Episode! I just discovered yesterday that very similar thing are using Fire fighter for pulling burning cloth from roof

  • @rebbyra
    @rebbyra 5 лет назад +299

    My weapon of choice: Bill
    I've tied a guy named Bill to the end of a pole

    • @falsefight
      @falsefight 5 лет назад +9

      Too heavy

    • @arx3516
      @arx3516 5 лет назад +24

      Try with a much younger and lighter Bill!

    • @Ditidos
      @Ditidos 5 лет назад +6

      @@arx3516 I'm not sure, I have tried with a Bil but it doesn't seem very powerfull. Maybe it is because it is already paid.

    • @bodkin7841
      @bodkin7841 5 лет назад +6

      He's a real feisty one ain't he?

    • @falsefight
      @falsefight 5 лет назад +1

      @@arx3516 Even the average newborn is heavier than I would want. Total weight of a weapon should be 8lbs max and even that is far too much for most people to wield effectively

  • @Maninawig
    @Maninawig 5 лет назад +6

    I originally learned about the Billhook watching an episode of Time Team, a Brittish archeology show. In this episode, they were retracing the steps of I believe the peasant's revolt.
    The polearm's origin was expressed as (paraphrased) " you had farmers who were being recruited to fight soldiers bearing polearms. So a need rose to create mass amounts of polearms while limited to cost and time. As such, it was easier for a blacksmith to fashion a spike to an existing tool and attach that to a staff than it would be to melt down metal and make them from scratch. The most readily available and useful tool at the time was the Billhooks, which is why the polearm was never created with a defined profile, as it was a makeshift weapon."
    The conclusion is that to respect the exploits of the revolt, the guards maning the castle (now market) in England still use mismatched billhooks while standing ceremoniously.

  • @rielboneman
    @rielboneman 5 лет назад +34

    Shad, my friend. Please do more polearms! Maybe like the Voulge and the like. I've loved your videos for a long time and seeing a polearm notification gives me a really spooky smile. Thanks for your vid, Shad. And keep it up!

  • @TheHornedKing
    @TheHornedKing 5 лет назад +12

    Yes you finally did it!
    Ever since it was added in Vermintide 2, I have had this growing interest in it, which just grew further as I started to look into it.
    Really cool look, kinda vicked looking really, and it's very effective.
    I'm actually thinking of having a DnD character use a billhook, using the halberd's stats since the billhook isn't a listed weapon, but it's easy to just re-skin one.

    • @bribabletick7966
      @bribabletick7966 5 месяцев назад

      Add some bonus to trip and disarm cause of the hook too

  • @chaoswolff1035
    @chaoswolff1035 5 лет назад +11

    Here's one of the best ways to kick off my morning! I love the billhook and really glad to see you shining some light on it.

  • @Kkey884
    @Kkey884 5 лет назад +8

    As a billhook main in Mordhau, this literally made my week. If only I could find a dragon to rip a wing off of...
    If you all want someone with a billhook in Mordhau, add me on steam!

  • @Izunundara
    @Izunundara 5 лет назад +4

    I just spent my entire morning with a billhook trimming hedges, the timing on this video cannot be more perfect

  • @davidwiman7850
    @davidwiman7850 5 лет назад +76

    “This weapon is relatively unknown outside of medieval historians”
    *Total war nerds coughs internally*

    • @baronprocrastination1722
      @baronprocrastination1722 4 года назад

      I don't see many billmen in the newer games, but since you specified nerds I imagine most of them would've known about medieval 2 already.
      Though, even then, simply saying 'bill' isn't very informative about the troop type. I mean, I did get quite confused when I first found out about them.

    • @shok24199
      @shok24199 4 года назад +1

      Was gonna say this exact thing. Billmen army + Auto Battle = win the game on a budget.

  • @darthalex3
    @darthalex3 5 лет назад +33

    "lets put a piece of metal on a stick but like put every kind of weapon we can think of on it lol"

  • @troperhghar9898
    @troperhghar9898 5 лет назад +54

    Bill: one handed tree cutting tool
    Billhook: two handed tree and human cutting tool
    Bullhook: Indian elephant training tool
    Know the difference

    • @SMT-ks8yp
      @SMT-ks8yp 5 лет назад

      So how to call the thing which has a spear shaft but no cutting edge at all? Only a spear spike and a hook.

    • @troperhghar9898
      @troperhghar9898 5 лет назад

      @@SMT-ks8yp you mean a staff?

    • @SMT-ks8yp
      @SMT-ks8yp 5 лет назад

      @@troperhghar9898 why staff? I mean, it's at least a spear and also with a hook.

    • @mr.numbers5968
      @mr.numbers5968 5 лет назад +2

      Bill: name
      Bill: nickname for dollar
      Bill: tool
      Bill: contract
      Bill: article waiting to become law
      Bill: another name for beak

    • @LucyWest370
      @LucyWest370 3 года назад

      @@mr.numbers5968 Bill: flying yellow demon dorito

  • @Aggnog
    @Aggnog 5 лет назад +62

    Particularly effective when wielded by cows.

    • @HighDesertComics
      @HighDesertComics 5 лет назад +2

      First Diablo on GOG for $10 US right now.

    • @scottmantooth8785
      @scottmantooth8785 5 лет назад +8

      dare we say it was udderly effective?

    • @megashark1013
      @megashark1013 5 лет назад +1

      @@scottmantooth8785 I've heard it's the perfect cownter to the sword.
      Alright, we should probably stop milking it.

    • @scottmantooth8785
      @scottmantooth8785 5 лет назад

      @@megashark1013 probably the most advantageous course of action to preserve what sanity remains on this comment thread

    • @HighDesertComics
      @HighDesertComics 5 лет назад +1

      @@scottmantooth8785 So, yes, stay a while...and listen.

  • @cewkietron6571
    @cewkietron6571 5 лет назад +13

    Dang, I didn't even know what a Billhook was when I saw the thumbnail-- but that sucker's scary right off the bat! 😮

  • @QuantumLeapCosplay
    @QuantumLeapCosplay 5 лет назад +10

    Been waiting for this! The billhook is one of my favorites polearms. :D

  • @Leo122188
    @Leo122188 5 лет назад +6

    The invention of the Billhook.
    "Hey Bill! Get over here!"
    "MAKE ME!"

  • @Eeter26
    @Eeter26 5 лет назад +128

    What’s it called when someone seduces a person by paying for their drink?
    A billhook

  • @A._is_for
    @A._is_for 5 лет назад +1

    I love billhooks, great gardening tool. And useful for climbing trees too (one handed) splitting logs, general clearing, shaving sticks...

  • @duchi882
    @duchi882 5 лет назад +38

    *Just Imagine*
    getting hit with that thing even with armor on
    _OOF!_

  • @isaaclaw7317
    @isaaclaw7317 5 лет назад +1

    With regards to medieval settings, i've recently been creating one with a variation on the Anglo-Saxon Fyrd with soldiers being required to provide their own billhook.
    A brilliant and very British weapon, wonderful video thanks.

  • @rikremmerswaal2756
    @rikremmerswaal2756 5 лет назад +8

    Billhook and Trebuchets excellent adventure.

  • @Serahpin
    @Serahpin 5 лет назад +17

    "When all you have is a hammer, all your problems look like nails."

  • @theserpent6070
    @theserpent6070 5 лет назад +11

    Can’t wait for Stormlight 4 and I what you’re going to bring to the table. I think Sanderson chose wisely

  • @ericcadwell5193
    @ericcadwell5193 5 лет назад +2

    This was a great presentation, and one that I've been looking forward to for a long time! Thank you!

  • @Hostility1812
    @Hostility1812 5 лет назад +4

    My father always called his a Brush Hook. It was mounted on a 4ft haft.

  • @nathanaelhoward9485
    @nathanaelhoward9485 5 лет назад

    I love this Chanel and especially this series. I’m writing a medieval fantasy for a college course. Through this channel you have helped me in more ways than I could have imagined to make my books realistic, while still having a magic and fantasy aesthetic. Keep them coming! And thank you for all the work you put into your videos.

  • @PhilBagels
    @PhilBagels 5 лет назад +12

    All the polearms and combo-polearms from Deendee:
    "So whatdya got?"
    "Well, there's glaive-guisarme, glaive-fauchard-guisarme, glaive-spetum, halberd-spetum, glaive-guisarme-halberd-spetum, spetum-voulge-fauchard-spetum, spetum-voulge-spetum-halberd-fauchard-guisarme-spetum, lucerne hammer and spetum, Bohemian ear spoon and spetum, spetum-spetum-mancatcher-spetum, spetum-spetum-spetum-spetum-spetum-spetum-spetum-spetum-khopesh-spetum-spetum-spetum-spetum, and a double-bladed dwarven urgosh with a removable balanced throwing pommel, spring-loaded poisoned dagger blade, sharpened quillions, blood grove, retractable sling and built-in carrying case for a dozen bullets and a bore down the length of the whole thing that you can use as a blowgun and spetum."
    "Have you got anything without spetum?"
    "Well, there's spetum-voulge-fauchard-spetum. That's not got much spetum in it."
    etc.

  • @leemaiden388
    @leemaiden388 2 года назад +1

    can confirm these are still used in UK farming and land maintenance, billhooks are mainly for hedgelaying since any experienced user can cut a branch enough to bend it down in one or two blows forming the base of the hedge. The shape of the polearm blade is actually more akin to a type of bill for re-laying older hedges (sometimes called a northern billhook here) heavier for thicker branches, with a strait blade on the back in case you need an axe like chop, the spike jutting out the side obviously was an addition made for combat.
    People are still paid to do hedge laying today so it's a design that has lasted the test of time even if it been more phased out with advances in recent years.

    • @again5162
      @again5162 2 года назад

      It's an intensive job the billhook maybe sharp but I use secutuers its cleaner and easier in most jobs I do

  • @valory13
    @valory13 5 лет назад +6

    The hook would also be good at tripping unmounted units to allow for a deadly blow.

  • @BeachTypeZaku
    @BeachTypeZaku 9 месяцев назад

    This is the greatest polearm arm ever made! My absolute favorite! Thank you for doing a dedicated video on it!❤❤❤

  • @jacopoarmini7889
    @jacopoarmini7889 5 лет назад +4

    the billhook reminds me of that old tv series: Merlin. The (useless) guards of Camelot used those, and now that I think about it, that series had really pretty, and somewhat accurate, weapons and armor.

  • @bastianstiefler3390
    @bastianstiefler3390 5 лет назад +1

    Loved the video and I mostly agree with your made statements. With one exception: As you mentioned yourself soldiers armed themselves considering two factors: prize of equipment and enemy they were going to face. Therefore I'd say the reason upper class, heavy Infantry picked up poleaxes instead of billhooks is they are way better in fighting armor. There might allways be some soldiers who will wear a kind of armor or weapon because it is "hip" (I'd argue that might be why in the crusades suddenly blocky helmets are back, when better curved ones are allready avaiable), but most of them are going to plan to survive and therefore use the equipment they believe is strongest against their expected enemy. For light infantry, they have to expect cavalry. For heavy Infantry fighting light and heavy infantry is the most reasonable expectation.

  • @SuperAnime4444
    @SuperAnime4444 5 лет назад +3

    It is like the Chinese polearm, Ji. Amazing how different worlds would come up with similar designs

  • @gewoonik687
    @gewoonik687 5 лет назад

    Towns and cities where in love with this thing, so many depiction of townguard and cityarmies with billhooks finally someone gives them some love.

  • @piecicle7652
    @piecicle7652 5 лет назад +5

    "Thrusting is very useful" ~Shad, 2019

  • @kohinarec6580
    @kohinarec6580 5 лет назад +2

    The English billmen were my favourites in Medieval: Total War and Medieval II: Total War.
    Effective.
    Terrifying.
    Bane of the French when utilized in support to longbowmen.

  • @rayceeya8659
    @rayceeya8659 5 лет назад +75

    I just want to know who Bill was.

    • @Gormathius
      @Gormathius 5 лет назад +5

      Ray Ceeya
      Some dude with a hook.

    • @Sol_ttu
      @Sol_ttu 5 лет назад

      Joe mama

    • @leebennett1821
      @leebennett1821 4 года назад

      I heard he was Best mates with CLAY MOORE 😆😆😆😆😆

  • @ztbmarine
    @ztbmarine 5 лет назад

    Just got your book on Audible, took about two chapters before I ordered a hardcover copy. Shadow of the Conqueror is an awesome piece of work. Love your work Shad, I can hardly wait for more.

  • @mrman5517
    @mrman5517 5 лет назад +10

    the modern version of the billhook is the billfold... guaranteed to beat any opponent if large enough!

  • @wolfgang8391
    @wolfgang8391 5 лет назад

    hey, Shad I just picked up the audio version Shadow of the Conquer. I'm in chapter 13 and I've got to say I'm loving it. Keep on good sir

  • @MajoraZ
    @MajoraZ 5 лет назад +6

    I'd love for you to take a look at some of the weapons used by Mesoamerican or Andean city-states, kingdoms, and empires in this series: They tend to get largerly ignored by military historians and that sort of youtube content, despite having organized armies that used armor and designed weaponry, fought in formations, had rank structures, barracks, garrsions, etc. The Mesoamerican Macuahuitl is sort of infamous, but they and other civilizations had a variety of polearms (from analogs to halbreds to glaives to more mundane thrusting spears), clubs (spherical and flanged maces, batons, the Aztec had a sort of morning-star esque weapon), and projectile weapons (atlatls, bows, slings, etc).

  • @blythan3134
    @blythan3134 5 лет назад

    Recently dug up an old story of mine. Needed a weapon for the main character still.
    This one...
    fits the bill.
    Thanks Shad!

  • @jerichamesclammay3107
    @jerichamesclammay3107 5 лет назад +13

    looks like the perfect weapon to unhorse a mounted soldier

    • @edi9892
      @edi9892 5 лет назад +3

      Many halberds are the same. Concave axe blade to bite into armour and a hook on the back doing the same as the hook on the front of a bill...

    • @dreadnought8363
      @dreadnought8363 5 лет назад +5

      Hence their name in German: “Rossschinder“ Ross meaning horse and Schinder meaning abuser, basically a metaphor for use against cavallary.

    • @jerichamesclammay3107
      @jerichamesclammay3107 5 лет назад +1

      @@dreadnought8363 nice. Germans really know how to name their weapons.

  • @albertjackinson
    @albertjackinson 5 лет назад

    This channel always has a mix of education and fun! That's why I LOVE IT!

  • @TeutonicViking
    @TeutonicViking 5 лет назад +39

    "Hey bill, what you got there?"
    "a new polearm, I dont know what to call it. But it has a cool hook!"
    "BILLHOOK! "
    "what?..."
    "billhook..."

    • @scottmantooth8785
      @scottmantooth8785 5 лет назад +2

      here in the south we would call those billybobsticks....or maybe just thumpwhoppers

    • @gabriel300010
      @gabriel300010 5 лет назад +2

      @@scottmantooth8785 and after it proved effective, the ASSWHOPPER

  • @Aurogos
    @Aurogos 5 лет назад

    Excellent stuff! These are the very reasons why I have Centaurs in my D&D campaign use Halberds, Poleaxes but primarily Bills or Spears since they live in woodland areas and the pruning bill does come in handy as a weapon, especially when they are able to push enemies to the ground and trample them. :D

  • @Camooses
    @Camooses 5 лет назад +8

    Welp, looks like the foot Soldiers in my campaign setting are going to be using Billhooks.

    • @sarojolibois6088
      @sarojolibois6088 5 лет назад +3

      And spears and pikes! :D give the pointy sticks more love, there's a reason they were used for thousands of years

    • @angquangnguyenthac2833
      @angquangnguyenthac2833 5 лет назад

      Well play Medieval 2 total war for the accurate Billmen experience

  • @chrisshorten4406
    @chrisshorten4406 5 лет назад +1

    I'm so glad you made this video! One of the characters in the stories I've been writing uses a billhook, but I was having trouble finding info about it.

  • @slinkerdeer
    @slinkerdeer 5 лет назад +3

    The intro visuals are better than before, but the voice saying "Shadiversity" definitely was better in the previous one

  • @hughtuller6344
    @hughtuller6344 5 лет назад

    I work a lot in rural Southeast Asia, and folk there regularly use the “agricultural variant”, as you call it for just about every type of cutting. Bamboo, small trees, grasses, whatever. The hook portion is useful for helping to pick up or move cut vegetation.

  • @barrybend7189
    @barrybend7189 5 лет назад +7

    You know what's another underappreciated weapons............
    The Battle Anchor!

  • @jasonrandall5148
    @jasonrandall5148 2 года назад +1

    When i was kid 80s early 90s i use to types of Bill to chop fire logs on a farm.

  • @Chris-ok4zo
    @Chris-ok4zo 5 лет назад +3

    I remember seeing the "tool" in stores. My dad has a long one for fruit on trees.

    • @adrianfirewalker4183
      @adrianfirewalker4183 5 лет назад +1

      Every farm supply store in the Southern US still carries them

  • @blakeprocter5818
    @blakeprocter5818 4 года назад +1

    Thanks for doing this video Shad. I've been trying to think of some unique but appropriate weapons for a culture in my fiction (though it is more late bronze age/early antiquity fantasy rather than medieval) and the billhook seems perfect. From a little reading I did, it seems it was also deployed not just as an anti-cav weapon, but against heavily armoured foot as well, which is perfect for what I need. Cheers for this bit of inspiration.

  • @HipposHateWater
    @HipposHateWater 5 лет назад +3

    *Shad releasing a new video* "Today's video will be on one of history's most underappreciated weapons: the bill."
    *Americans crash in through the wall* "BILL! BILL! BILL! BILL! BILL!"

  • @Aryan_homophobe
    @Aryan_homophobe 5 лет назад +2

    It was also surprisingly effective against shields that were all over the early/mid medieval battlefields. With some fun and dirty tricks you could have pull with that weapon.

  • @MrLamorso
    @MrLamorso 5 лет назад +19

    "Saltspyre would like to know your location"

    • @wahlex841
      @wahlex841 5 лет назад +1

      Ravaged body blessed.

  • @TheAmbientWarrior
    @TheAmbientWarrior 5 лет назад

    Thank you! My favorite polearm finally gets some recognition!

  • @youraveragerussiansanta3810
    @youraveragerussiansanta3810 5 лет назад +9

    Ill remember this the next time someone rides on their horse the entire match.

  • @PrincessSixThirteen
    @PrincessSixThirteen 5 лет назад

    Thank you, Shad and Oz, for an informative and well-edited video.

  • @phyrexian_dude4645
    @phyrexian_dude4645 5 лет назад +35

    No surprise that the golden rule also apply: cheap, effective and easy to use.

    • @scottmantooth8785
      @scottmantooth8785 5 лет назад +1

      not much of a learning curve either...

    • @scorpixel1866
      @scorpixel1866 5 лет назад +7

      @@scottmantooth8785 Ah yes, losing your time twelve hours a day swinging a ridiculously short weapon that couldn't cut through even a Gambeson, and then dying to a guy with a 2 meters long pointy stick because you though dual wielding swords with a cape looked cooler than having a shield and/or actual armour.

    • @scottmantooth8785
      @scottmantooth8785 5 лет назад +4

      @@scorpixel1866 the tragic consequence of being more focused on being fashion conscious than on actual defensive postures and having various bits of your anatomy hack off... bits you might need later and that are really difficult to replace with anything else

    • @scorpixel1866
      @scorpixel1866 5 лет назад +3

      @@scottmantooth8785 "Just a flesh wound" as they say^^

    • @scottmantooth8785
      @scottmantooth8785 5 лет назад +2

      @@scorpixel1866 nothing like walking off a sucking chest wound to properly invigorate the senses

  • @EthanStrode
    @EthanStrode 5 лет назад

    I did not know about this weapon before today, I love your videos in this series, very educational.

  • @k-bot2.047
    @k-bot2.047 5 лет назад +7

    For your next pop culture weapon video. How bout the Master Sword and Biggoron sword from the Legend of Zelda

  • @ronalddavies1091
    @ronalddavies1091 5 лет назад

    I was one of those who didn't know of the Billhook. The very first thing I thought of was it's use of pulling a rider off it's mount. The second was using the hook to sweep a leg of a opponent. So see you're teaching me & I'm learning how to look at weapons in a more critical other than "it looks cool". I love learning. 👍✌️

  • @thefirstprimariscatosicari6870
    @thefirstprimariscatosicari6870 5 лет назад +4

    I remember seeing one of these at the Royal Armoury in Turin. Was really curious about what they were, so this video is much appreciated. I would live you to do a video about its cousins I found there, but unfortunately there were no name tags and my ability to describe them boils down to "meat cleavers with a really long handle", so that's not really useful.
    Another interesting thing I saw there that would be an interesting subject were sabres and sideswords with knife handles, which made me wonder how effective such weapon hybrids would be.

    • @NoOne-ju8fi
      @NoOne-ju8fi 4 года назад

      THAT SOUNDS LIKE A BARDICHE

  • @AgentWest
    @AgentWest 5 лет назад +1

    Having used a farming bill hook (similar to one at 1:00 ) i can confirm that they work incredibly well for taking excess small limbs off trees, as well as for clearing unwanted vines off said trees. The blade is not heavy enough to wear a user out like a regular axe, yet heavy enough for a nice swing. Couple that with a really narrow blade and you get a pretty handy chopping thingy.

  • @wtffy
    @wtffy 5 лет назад +4

    The billhook is slightly more subtle and understated in appearance than most anime MC's hairdos.

  • @N8Dawgg314
    @N8Dawgg314 5 лет назад +1

    Thank you, Shad, for making me do a complete 180 on the bill. I used to think "Oh you'd, or at least I'd, never use those more exotic bits sticking out of other polearms, why not stick with the more elegant and cool looking spear?"
    Well now after realizing just how AWESOME the hook would be in combat, the spiked bill is now by far my favorite medieval weapon and even see it in a totally different light. Instead of a stupid bit sticking off the side, now the hook looks like a claw or a talon.

  • @savitbharadwaj4023
    @savitbharadwaj4023 5 лет назад +24

    The most underappreciated weapon, historical or not, is a good old hammer.

    • @Epicmonk117
      @Epicmonk117 5 лет назад

      Savit Bharadwaj *_B O N K ! ! !_*

    • @robertdevito5001
      @robertdevito5001 5 лет назад +3

      Hammers are used as a weapon to kill more people every year than any other weapon in the U.S., by far.
      So they're appreciated in society, just not on television, I guess.

    • @ErdricksArmor
      @ErdricksArmor 5 лет назад

      @@robertdevito5001 that's not true. Handguns are used far more often.
      www.statista.com/statistics/195325/murder-victims-in-the-us-by-weapon-used/

    • @savitbharadwaj4023
      @savitbharadwaj4023 5 лет назад +1

      @@ErdricksArmor I agree with you, that is just not true. Things like hammers and sickles are used as weapons in countries with disarmed citizens. Take India for example. You can tote around a large sledgehammer in public and nobody will bat an eyelid. But carry a *kitchen knife* and you're liable to be handcuffed and taken in for questioning.

    • @ErdricksArmor
      @ErdricksArmor 5 лет назад +1

      @@savitbharadwaj4023 yes, banning specific weapons is pointless. If someone wants to cause harm, they'll always find a way.

  • @vinx.909
    @vinx.909 3 года назад

    came for a weapon i didn't really know about, also learned about the origin of knotwilgen (dutch word, translates to pollard willow). and this is why i love shad.

  • @ryanmettler1953
    @ryanmettler1953 5 лет назад +12

    Medieval Total War 2 players: "The bill is underappreciated?"

  • @Shaun_Jones
    @Shaun_Jones 5 лет назад

    I actually own one of the two-handed brush axes, and it is effective. It will sever a branch as big as your thumb without even slowing down, and can cut a single branch that is twice that with a proper swing.