Biden Thinks Debt Relief Will Save Black Farmers From Extinction
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- Опубликовано: 4 окт 2024
- The United States Department of Agriculture says it’s ready to help black owned-farms. After generations of discrimination, black farmers are skeptical. VICE News investigates whether Biden’s multibillion dollar debt relief will prevent the last black farmers from going out of business.
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The Black man’s Spirit WILL NEVER DIE !!!!!
NEVER!!!
I’m a farmer in Mississippi the was a great story I’m going to carry the torch from my ancestors growing for life the vegan way
What you be growing out there in mississippi brother
Philip, check out the Winston County Self help Cooperative for assistance.
As I will be also carrying the 🔦 likely here in the north east...
Keep pushing man. We’re hungry, we support your work by buying.
Love seeing theses types of comments!! I’m glade more black millennials/gen-z are going into farming!! Shout out to my fellow black vegans. I see a lot of black farmers being from South Carolina I’m glade y’all are getting more attention
Wow there is conflict of interest, you have someone who is a farmer and on the board of the debt relief program agency!
And, he is intentionally IGNORANT of the plight of the Black Farmers & how the govt conspired to steal their land.
As a farmer of color, I was amazed that we're being given debt relief. Still very concerned about the timetable of debt payments. I reached out to the FSA Administrator this morning and was told there still was no definitive timetable. My season starts in September and we'd need debt payments no later than June to start our season. Hoping the USDA follows through with their promises.
As an employee they are slow walking this program. Recent programs through COVID relief was almost immediate. This program should not be taking this long unless they are holding it until some law suite is filed and stops it from being distributed.
@@treomoe The program is in clear violation of the Civil Rights Act of 1964. apnews.com/article/wisconsin-lawsuits-business-31e568255f85fb7655d20319d8dc271d
@@giantschwinn8255 it is not a violation of the civil rights act one again a white fantasy.
@@treomoe The long title of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 says in part: to prevent discrimination in federally assisted programs. This is a federally assisted program that is using race as a basis for discrimination.
@@giantschwinn8255 it’s a law not a program understand the two.
Every farmer who needs help should be helped, anything less is discrimination and is unconstitutional.
Without farmers we won’t eat. With the mega farms we eat mostly chemicals that destroys soil, contaminates streams, rivers, lakes, aquifers, and causes human beings 100’s of illnesses. There is only one answer here - treat all farmers equally. White farmers were given money by Trump. Treat everyone fairly. White and black farmers are all struggling. Before they are all bought out by mega farms
we need to help them. They work a minimum of 10 - 12 hours a day 365 days a year. (That does depend on their crop and which State
they are farming in. Temperature, amount of rain, snow, etc.). HELP OUT THE SMALL FARMS and no help for mega Farmers. Mega are only in it for profit. Small farming is a way of life and they are proud to produce quality food. Please pray for small farmers and especially non-white farmers. Republicans have put people who are racist in positions to deny people of color the ability to advance in almost every walk of life.
that white farmer is a good example of what the conservative media bubble does to you. he admits that he doesn't know why the other side says that there has been discrimination, but that doesn't at all stop him from assuming and proclaiming that they are wrong.
Provide evidence of a vast majority of white farmers even saying this......oh that’s what I thought you Cant.
Max Power what are you talking about? I made no claim of that sort, you vegetable!
The American Rescue Plan debt relief program is in clear violation of the Civil Rights Act of 1964. I see that you are not interested in following the law. apnews.com/article/wisconsin-lawsuits-business-31e568255f85fb7655d20319d8dc271d
@@burritomaker69 I can. It was white farmers who filed suit to block the program......so with what measure they mete let it be measured
All white folks in everything…………
It shouldn’t be about debt forgiveness it should be about holing those who are employees of the FSA and UDSA accountable for their crap
Yes
Thank you to all the Farmers and Ranchers out there!!💙💛#FFA
It's not just Farmers, business owners as well.
Won’t let me open up my god dammed restaurant. Pretty sure it’s cause jerked chicken isn’t considered essential to the whites.
@@semi-chubber2388 • I hear you my brother. Seems like it's rough for all. Blacks like Jerked 🐔 as well. But we all know that what these gentlemen speak is true. Both sides of the fence.
Discrimination and mismanagement exists. Past and present. Equal playing field. White and Blacks, we are one. We need to work together. This is suppose to be America.
Hope you can open your restaurant soon.
Peace
@@semi-chubber2388 imagine thinking it's a problem of race.
@@semi-chubber2388 Or because jerked chicken is for a fact not essential?
@@beco5002 he's being sarcastic. He's not even black.
You're the only channel covering this...thanks a mil...
Not, PBS Newshour was the first to bring it onto a big youtube report. I suggest you look up that one, they talk to the biggest black farmer leading this.
@@dertythegrower I don't watch tv...I was referring to alternative news sources...
Much like everything in else, farming needs a complete overhaul to be sustainable. We’re fucked, basically.
Let’s just save all farmers who cares what color the skin is
Let’s just ignore historic discrimination.
Why didn’t u say that during the last year when black people weren’t getting loans from the usda
@@ricardobarahona3939 What does that have to do with 21st century farming?
@@davidz2808 dicstimation didn’t end when mlk died. Black farm loan applications take 10x longer to be processed on average
@@ad72644 why does it take longer?
god bless our farmers
@Codeman epic
@Codeman based
No matter their race or ethnicity.
How can people think distributing wealth based on race is not racist itself an that combating racism with racism isnt dumb....
Pretty sure Vermont was giving priority of vaccines based on race, seems pretty racist to me
@@tacticalnoodles that has been proven to be false. And if you can rebuttals me please provide a link as far as evidence.
Wealth in America from the onset was taken from Native Americans and built by Blacks that created white wealth that lasts still. Common knowledge. Ignoring that is just foolish and ya racists
@@calientecafe you are the racist my dear
@@burritomaker69 If you could please tell me how it was proven false that would be wonderful. also just a quick old search and you can find a few articles.
We all need to bind as one people. Stop allowing government to divide us.
Why only black farmers? It’s all the farmers
Did you even watch the video?
White men are the only people in the world who will racially discriminate *against* themselves
@@Flashyfinancier puppet
Vice, do investigative reporting on why Bill Gates is the largest private farmland owner in the US.
Hmm I wonder why the MSM has never reported on this
MSM rarely promotes indigenous Black American culture
@@origineeman6421 It was a rhetorical question but ya
I saw a similar story on CNN (united shades with kamu bell) about a year ago about how black famers weren't being given loans and how it was impossible to keep operating farms as well as historic policies from the government has penalized farmers of color.
@@origineeman6421 for all the BS they preach they don’t help at all
Because not everything is about race blackie
When I approve or decline someone’s loan I have no clue of their race. Nor do I care. I just want them to pay it back.
You've been around for generations?
@@meyou3772 wtf? Have you been around for even a decade because that’s a dumb ass question.
@@jaxturner7288 I see your perspective.
Fascinating perspective thank you for sharing its greatly appreciated.
Well color matters to the people in charge and unfortunately the black farmers are on the disadvantage end of it
Yall need a Mexican hand for work let me know brother
I’d be down to work on a farm too , i have nothing else to do but work lol.
I'll be a farm hand in return for 3 meals a day and a little cottage to sleep and a few bucks for moonshine and cigs
@Grand Admiral Thrawn I will check it out thanks
Immigrants...?
6:30 All family farms are being purchased by large corporate owned farms. Why are you only worried about black family owned farmers? Ryan is right.
Look, as someone who grew up working on a farm and in farming communities. This is a goddamn problem. It shouldn't be racial or political. It should be all farmers standing together and pushing uo harder. Agriculture is the basis for all civilization. Not fuckin' commodities. When it all comes down. And it will. The farmers are our only hope. Not politicians. Not auto makers. Not industrial companies. Not the stock market.
As much as I admire your gusto, theres a big racial component to it. Black/White farmer alliances have been tumultuous from the start (ex. Black people not allowed into the 1880s Farmers' Alliance, Southern Tenant Farmers Union trying to kick out its black members), and widespread, documented cases of the USDA discriminating against black farmers (ex. 1965 US Commission on Civil Rights report on widespread USDA against black farmers, 1997 settlement of Pigford v. Glickman) make it impossible for race to not play a role in this. USDA has been taking black farmer's livelihoods for years at a far faster rate than white farmers (Since 1920, the number of black farms have declined by 98%, compared with just 66% for whites), so while I agree that stuff needs to be done, dismissing race in this is ludicrous
If this show isn’t about racism then I don’t know what is…
Yes it literally is about usda worker being racist and not giving loans to minorities
Hit you whiteys hard huh ?
@@ad72644 ✅
How is any of this even remotely "racist"? lol
@@charlesmiv3842 why you hating blacks?
Why mention race in farming
Because Vice are racist.
Because how do you want Vice to get views?
Cos the usda discriminates agosnt black farmers
@@aoflex for exposing racism?
@@ad72644 How so?
Stop taxing the land. The government doesn't even legally own it
Passing down debt really sucks
He didn't have to keep the farm as well. Otherwise, you wouldn't be able to get a loan if you were over 30.
Black farmers are worse at farming? Or why do they need a "relief"? I always tought that farming was hard and not a lot of money, all farmers should get a Relief in my opinion.
I could care less what skin color a farmer has. Is their crop the healthiest that it can be? What type of strain are you putting on the environment? It seems to me that those are more important issues.
Yup
White men are the only people in the world who will racially discriminate *against* themselves
This story is uncomfortable. My Dad is a farmer, he’s called me and asked for operating capital. That’s much more uncomfortable. The real issue with farming is operating loans are like education, there is no collateral.
@Hello Dale are you doing?
@@lydiaanderson7226 okay I guess, who are you?
@@demiller74 Good, Hope we get to know each other with time and patience if you don’t?
Farming is already hard enough, why do they want to make it harder just because they're a different skin colour.
@Joe Blow A leftist browser company won’t answer anything.
@@kovy689 dumb
@Joe Blow Google actively promotes websites, companies, individuals and policies that are politically Left-wing while suppressing and discriminating against anything typically considered politically Right-wing. Religion, guns, martial arts, history, etc. are all demonetized, shadow-banned or placed last. You can use Google to find their own politics. They hire Left-wing employees. Their headquarters are in California.
@@charlesmiv3842 I agree, Google is dumb
@Joe Blow I’m here because I can be. What’s your point?
Farmers in general are down 70%+ since the 20s.
What about the blacks?
@@semi-chubber2388 what about them? Why does race matter?
@@ginch8300 This is what racism is defined as prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against a person or people on the basis of their membership in a particular racial or ethnic group. Understand what you are saying so you can quit making yourself look stupid. 🤡 People like you making your own definition to words is what is fucking this country up. The only thing colorblind is your comprehension skills and grasp on reality.
@@ginch8300 huh what? Leftist logic 101. DON'T be colorblind
Sigh. The issue is that most people claiming to be colorblind just use that as an excuse to not notice or look for the systemic injustices.
media such as Vice serve a very very important purpose in helping to make society function better. Problem is the insurmountable distance from 2 second attention span of self-interested ignorance and in-depth problem solving dialogue.
The American Rescue Plan debt relief program is in clear violation of the Civil Rights Act of 1964. apnews.com/article/wisconsin-lawsuits-business-31e568255f85fb7655d20319d8dc271d
👍...I'm further inspired by seeing you guys carrying on the tradition of husbandry 🙏
White competitors? Does the color of a competitor matter? This sounds like reverse racism. Remember FARM-AID in the 1980's. Millions of farmers where going broke. Farming is a TOUGH business. If you keep giving loans to white people you would end up with white farmers with a mountain of debit, right? Loans don't make farmers stronger they make farmers weaker! I'll tell you the real problem here.
THE TRUTH is to be a good farmer you NEED to be a GOOD equipment mechanic first! I fix ALL my own equipment and THAT'S WHY I MAKE MONEY AT FARMING! My repair shop is bigger than my barn! Paying a mechanic $300,000 a year to keep all the equipment running will BANKRUPT YOU FAST! I say teach all poor or failing farmers how to Repair a broken John Deer on their own! That's where the problem really is, in the costs off machinery repair. Mechanics make THE BEST farmers!!! Its always been that way! Successful farmers know this! Farmers that go broke all the time just don't know enough about tractor repair, I have seen it all my life. White farmers that go broke had the same problem, no repair skills and they are hard to learn without schooling or a strong father like I had who made me watch him work on engines all my young life, I learned! It was not easy!
Not sure if USA or Zimbabwe
..what?
Us Aborigine Americans don't know anything about Africa. Our African ancestors crossed the Atlantic thousands of years ago, when the continents were closer.
@@origineeman6421 no they fucking didnt, we brought them over less than 300 years ago
@@vaqmnrg1688 Way off. We have Afro-Austronesian DNA markers. Thousands of ancient Afro-Austronesian skeletons like "Luzia Woman" were found in Brazil, proving our ancestors crossed the Atlantic many thousands of years ago when Brazil was near Africa.
@@origineeman6421 your fabled Afro-Austronesians are at best present on madagascar.
Vice needs more funding and support.
No they don't. They are nothing more than a bunch of race baiters. They were being incredibly misleading when they only mentioned that Black farms are in decline without also stating that farms in general are in decline.
So that guy is 600k in debt.. and saying it's racist the bank won't give him a 1 million dollar loan
U clearly don’t understand how farming works.
I dont think you understand how farms work. A new combine on its own can cost hundreds of thousands of dollars. That is for just one piece of machinery. This is how ALL farmers work. Iv known a lot of farmers and the stress from the financial situations they can be put in through no fault of their own is insane. And when farmers near me decided to start selling all their land for housing it was hard to argue they were making the right financial choice.
Oh...they will get their loans now, with the land as collateral....and when they canr pay the money back..land grab
@@laetitialogan2017 Can't pay your bills, blame others.
@Juan Mendoza I love how people like you probably did not even watch the video. There is documented evidence of black farmers not getting the same financial assistance for decades that their white counter parts got. Even in this video the farmer calls his local reps and they lie to him because they do not want a black farmer getting money from an available program. But yeah, sure...its never actual facts that prove blacks have been pushed down by a system meant to keep them down, its always just that "they are not as good as whites".
Im glad people that think like you are dying out.
Why is everything always about race? Does it REALLY matter if our farmers are white, black, or Hispanic? Last I checked, all crops grow the same way if they are grown properly.
Because non white farmers are treated differently due to systematic racism.
Check history. Dummy
And those non white in certain cases (state, county or whatever) are predominantly blacks.
Their stealing money on the local level and people need to start going to prison!!!!!
Brett Farve
I would also like to know why all the farmers they spoke to were sugarcane farmers. This is one of the worst performing crops year over year and is also one of the most heavily subsidized....this entire thing sounds like how the ANC got their foot in the door for land appropriation in South Africa....it always starts with “debt relief” but will almost inevitably end with land redistribution.
Exactly
Was gonna say the same thing can't make any money at sugar cane... dairy and beef and chicken usually dominate the profit margins for farming
The land redistribution will definitely happen in our lifetimes the US government stole millions of acres of land from black farmers and from native Americans and the land will almost definitely be given back if you lived in Oklahoma you would know that half of the state got given back to the tribes which will happen in almost every single state until white people and immigrants are on reservations where life will be hard and opressive in 20 years white people will be the minority in the United States and Canada and most Hispanics will begin having babies with native Americans
@@kaylasilverfox473 What the hell are you talking about?
@@giantschwinn8255 the future
Thing about debt relief, is it's always good. Never been an economic collapse from frivolous debt annulment. It's called a debt jubilee, and if a leader wants an easy way into the benevolent chapters of the history books, it's literally all they have to do.
The white farmer made essentially a racist statement by saying black farmers don’t know how to manage their money, and that’s why they don’t get loans. 😂😂😂
He never brought up race you assumed he did in all actuality your the racist🤷♂️ you are assuming he assumes black farmers can’t handle money witch in all reality means you sub-Consciously think this...
@@Catspajamas1776 the interviewer asked him point plank “If discrimination is not the reason for why minority farmers are having to foreclose on their farms, then what is?” And the white guy replied “mismanagement of money”. The people the question was referring to, as well as his reply, were minority people, aka black people. 😂😂😂
@@Catspajamas1776 also, if you can’t use the proper “your” and “witch” in a rebuttal, maybe reconsider whether you should comment at all 🤣🤣
Better credit history gets better loans.
Government relief or debt forgiveness for only one race involved in a situation is systemic racism by definition.
And that’s what so many don’t see. Secluding a race even if the laws are in favor of that race is by definition racism.
You literally just made a racist statement by saying black farmers have worse credit history 😂😂😂
Wow!! All the proof of discrepancies for minority farmers and still NO! I pray these farmers get what they deserve and just as much as non black farmers get. Also the farmer in LA is a racist 🙄
I should also point out that the USDA has a lot of outreach programs and educational tools which could also help.
Dewayne L. Goldmon worked for Monsanto. Maybe he still does, I don't know. He has not updated his Linkedin profile. The committee he is appointed to at the USDA was not listed here as of 8 May 2021: www.usda.gov/our-agency/staff-offices/office-executive-secretariat-oes/advisory-committees
Good report. This is a good topic to cover, and I think you should go to Oregon and talk to black Oregon hemp farmers, thatll get you a ton of views, im tellin you.. south oregon black farmers and mexican both. Small farmers doing hemp cbd
yes fer sure!
Comparative study is needed. In the past few decades have white farmers with the same qualifications as black farmers been given loans at a significantly higher rate?
They cited several reports dating from 1965 to 2019 that black farmers have been discriminated against when they apply for loans and debt relief. They even gave an example where 10 black farmers and 10 white farmers apply for debt relief. All 10 white farmers got the debt relief and all 10 black farmers were foreclosed on
Yes. The history of the used which is sited here is always been biased against blacks. All farmers can't have the same situation. But historically whites have had more support from the federal government. For instance the anecdote from the rep. in the video talking about the 10 whites vs. 10 black farmers and the out come. Even trump in 2019 gave @ 99% of subsidize from the trade war fiasco to whites.
Same things happened at the end of WWII and Vietnam iirc, that's why there is more Asian owned business in the hood than Black owned ones for exemple. And that people assumed that Asians were more hard workers than Blacks because they made it thinking both had the same governmental aids. Even if there is laws against it nobody is there to double check and see if there is refusal for bullshit reasons. Vice did a piece about McDonald's Black franchisees being discriminated last month. I don't know what to think about these issues, one moment you think Blacks are moving upwards but are still being tarnished as a race by a plethora of bad individuals, then there is news of last era bullshit institutionalized racism in the middle of a divisive political agenda. What is bait? was is true? sigh~
That anecdote is not sufficient. I believe there are historic wrongs that need to be corrected, but vice needs to do a better job supporting their reporting with facts, versus porch anecdotes.
You know what will save black farmers, regenerative agriculture. You get far more wealth and nutrition per acre through the biodiversity of regen.
People of color were not enslaved on American soil or terrorized under Jim Crow. Black American descendants of chattel slavery were. There need to be policies specific to American descendants of chattel slavery and not to the broad term of people of color which basically applies to anyone but white men. Notice how the victims are Black Americans but the relief goes to people of color which is basically anyone that’s not a white male. There a multitudes of policies that are SPECIFIC to and for other people.
Plant hemp and raise free range chickens.
The part most farmers don't get is you need crop diversity in order to keep up with the times.
@Gpoplin Greg Poplin yeah but you have to diversify, why plant one crop that takes forever when you can flip micro greens in a matter of 8 weeks.
@Gpoplin Greg Poplin I don't think his point was to super simplify but more to say sugar cane isn't as profitable it seems. Corn for example can be used as a sweetener( health affects aside for this argument) or still be sold as corn. Not to mention I believe corn yields more than sugar.
People keep saying racism doesn't exist
Farmers of all melanin content are having a hard time year over year trying to sell at the lowest so it sells and the price of everything goes up year after year why do we have to make everything a race thing?
Exactly! This is precisely why black americans are hated everywhere!
@@myerwerl hated everywhere? What planet do u live on.
Cos the usda and banks don’t give loans to blacks. They made it a race thing
@@ad72644 This! Did Kalkanort even bother to watch the video or just read the title and formed is convoluted opinion.
@@cb9188 probably not. They just see black and attack it and say it’s racist.
Giving preferential treatment for a racial minority based will always backfire, especially if the other groups are also struggling at the same time. It would be much wiser to use purely economic criteria. Then if the said ethnic group is disproportionately disadvantaged it will receive the larger portion of the given aid regardless.
Well, simply no. Farm subsidies have always been based on economic criteria. The point is those organizations were racist in the past and are often discriminatory presently on the local level. Hence, why you have to be intentional about targeting farmers of color. Otherwise, you end up with what the USDA has been doing with housing and farming for the past 100 years. Ignoring the racial disparity compounds it.
@@h3mogoblin The American Rescue Plan debt relief program is in clear violation of the Civil Rights Act of 1964. Government actions have to be in accordance with the law. apnews.com/article/wisconsin-lawsuits-business-31e568255f85fb7655d20319d8dc271d
They been doing that for white people it's time to even it out. It's our free land lunch now
@@yourdedcat-qr7ln So its not about equality, it's about revenge. "Time to even it out". The oprpressed become the oppressors
@@redstarfarms2778 naw I want land
Why would you knock on the door of a public building, just walk in. Nobody answers the door at the courthouse either when you knock.
The door was locked
@@alexisjohnson3646 lmao
@@alexisjohnson3646 🤣😂
Woot about Indian farmers?!
They are a of color so they should get the same opportunities as whites. However they to are on the racist list to destroy. We need small farmers who produce quality products and are proud farm. Mega farms have to go. They destroy and produce poisoned products.
That white farmer kinda makes a good point though. And he's just been farming since 2007 so it's not like he's actually had any unfair advantages
It's called shifting the goal posts. 400 years ago black Americans were calling for EQUALITY and it was denied. 400 years later now right wingers are onboard with it only to maintain the disparity.
Where is the point in local- committees where a farmer (regardless of race) can advise on giving a loan to her/his competitor farmer. If I want to grow my operation I would naturally advise agains giving anybody else money so that I can get the farmland after they are ruined!!!
@@fritzdeuces he started farming 14 years ago. He did not gain anything from any historic inequality. You can't just give people special treatment because of race. That's what got them into this situation
I don't think the white farmer wracked up as much debt as the black farmer (generationally speaking). Even then, I would say this issue may be more related to class if we want to approach a solution for it to not leave any farmers behind. However, we should still note that it does indirectly perpetuate racism. (not trying to come off as a reductionist here, but this might be one of those cases where competition in certain industries should be redefined and the value of all labor should be at a baseline of manageable so that we give the incentives for more farmers to invest)
@@Mikeybees You are right. It has nothing to do with this white farmer. It has everything to do with black farmers that have been discriminated against for generations.
I love vice but you are leaning so hard to the left now. You said giving African American loans was trapping them, now not giving them loans is also harming them. Last time, I check it is against the federal law to judge loan amount base on race. Can you not also mention large amount of African American sold their farm and chose to move to the city by their own choice? I think better financial literacy along with business operations lessons would help alot more than loan forgiveness. This inequality is not a card to just blame other people but you need finding the problem and solve it. For example, Jewish family value financial education and teach their kids how to manage money at a young age. This resulted in generational wealth along with wealth generation over generations.
Do realize that your argument is basically that black families don't value money management? That's like say black families purposely send their children to terrible schools because they don't care about education. At some point you have to acknowledge that other people don't face the same systemic problems as you.
@@Pasicho I grow up in the hoods with high school that is rated 2/10, I believe that African American have the desire and the ability to be successful. However, most of them grow up without a father and never received any financial advice or lesson from their mother because she is too busy working providing food for the family. I believe that the main issue that's making African Americans suffer is the lack of family value and lack of two parent household. If black life really matters, let the kids have two parents, teach the kids to stay in school and how to manage their money. What do I know? Most kids are more willing to listen to rappers rap about shooting people and doing drugs.
Reality tends to have a left wing bias
@@garyyang3485 What is your solution exactly to combat the African American family household? Force two parent households? HOW? That's the disconnect in your argument. You acknowledge that there is a problem but you REFUSE to look at the root and the reasons.
Why do you think that there could be a lack of family value? Perhaps due to the preoccupation with the stress and challenges that they face? You're acting like African Americans' families CHOOSE to work long hours for small pay.
Like I said "At some point you have to acknowledge that other people don't face the same systemic problems as you."
@@Pasicho Family values are passed from parents to kids, all families face stress and challenges, Hispanic families have have most work hours in the US but they have a high rate of two parent households. Hispanic families have a high chance of generating generational wealth.
Sometime, people need to stop playing the victim card. Accept what the world has given you and improve, instead of blaming on everyone else. You need to ask the African American community a few questions! Why are there so many single parent households? Why are black teens twice more likely to have a baby before 18? Why does a black kid have two to four times the chance of not having a father in their lives?
These handouts or debt relief are not the solution. If you look at the welfare, more people end up and stay on welfare after they passed it. If you look at affirmative action, yes more African American get into top colleges, however it lead to more dropouts which ironically end up with about the same rate of graduation for African American before. People end up relying on handouts instead of trying to improve.
Crazy Idea. Black Athletes could invest in black farmers cutting out the banks. Also build grocery stores in black communities where there's so-called food deserts. Results are everybody WINS. The community gets fresh food. Thousands of jobs are created. The black farmer flourishes tremendously. The athletes get paid in full.
It should not matter what your color is !
If you IDENTIFY as a black farmer instead of just a farmer you have a problem !
This is really interesting, I’m glad to have learned this
Her question was stupid - "don't you think their bad decisions should be forgiven?" What kind of question is that? The question was whether he had data that black farmers had "bad priorities" or mismanaged money. Or if he knew of black farmers who'd been named to FSA review committees. His bubble is the traditional "we did it, so should they", even with data and evidence in their faces that those farmers had been disrespected and denied what he'd been given access to. Advocates should stop being so determined to prove a point that they miss what really needs to be asked.
Maybe instead of putting farmers in debt we should make small scale (10 acres) farming profitable. That way we'd have more farmers and no debt to pay. Without all the equiment the costs if operation could decrease greatly
I'm all about small scale farming. But in your paradigm, the city you live in wouldn't exist.
@@justinkirk5449 not necessarily, with 10 acres you can easily have surplus to sell to cities. But ultimately yeah, north american cities are designed to rely on the car and industrial farms. I say good riddance, we can live in more efficient communities
SOUTH TEXAS FEDERAL COURT MCALLEN TEXAS 7:22-CV -00084. THE USDA HAS OPENLY DISCRIMINATED RACIAL DISCRIMINATION AGAINST BLACK FARMER. LOOKUP DOCUMENT 67,77, AND 86 OF THIS CASE
I dont get it, since when is it competition? The world needs food. The farm community should work in unity, i understand the history and complexity But here we are in 2022? Time for unity and work to get quality products on the table.
Many young men living in the city can't understand this
These farmers need to look into regenerative ag. Listen to guys like Gabe Brown
It takes many years to switch traditional farming techniques to regenerative farming... I’m a sustainable agriculture major and you have to meet a cost for operations and living cost which if you change your techniques suddenly you will lose money and possibly your farm. It also takes lots of knowledge older generations are not quick to change...
@@rooteddwellings very well said
When people comments stopped making sense people stop listening and you shouldn't even have to speak.
what?
This is a good step to remediate a disturbing compounding deficit. Loans should always have been made according to fixed $/acre/crop standards, without the possibility of providing insufficient funds to some farmers selectively. In a credit economy fair access to the same credit resources at the same rates as your competition is a precondition for a fair competitive market, and thus a human right. Making your neighbors uncompetitive makes their lands easy prey for your avarice.
Thanks VICE for shining your torch on this.
Farmers just in general are having a hard time maintaining financial stability if we only focus on one group of those farmers then we will find the problems with the rest will grow to the point we will only be bake to worry about them and this whole process will go back and fourth back and fourth how about we just help farmers in general
Ah yes, the usual, racism doesn't exist, just help everyone equally. Have you not watched the part of the video where they explain how white farmers have little to no issues in receiving aid while black farmers are systematically denied that aid? But sure, let's "help farmers in general".
@@dennispremoli7950 I don't need a video I have seen it and I know for a fact white farmers are also getting denied financial aid the ones who don't have to work too hard to get it are corporate Farmers but that's a corporation so of course it's easy for them but no it's hard as hell for a family gamer to get by white or black but then again I highly doubt you know anything about farming do you
Dennis Premoli VICE did not present any statistics for comparison - they just made the claim without evidence that black farmers got less aid that white farmers purely based on race.
@@dennispremoli7950 The American Rescue Plan debt relief program is in clear violation of the Civil Rights Act of 1964. apnews.com/article/wisconsin-lawsuits-business-31e568255f85fb7655d20319d8dc271d
Queen Sugar is a great representation of this
40 million blk mouths to feed and they are not supporting blk farmers.
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Why are black farmers so light skinned. Colorism???
Why not all Farmers.
Did you not watch the video?!
Because WOKE
“Small” family farms are rare... not just black owned farms.
Shhhhh. Don't tell that to the race baiters at Vice.
Strong story. Thanks VTN
@Hello Robert how are you doing?
Why should, my Indian immigrant families taxes go to pay for black farmers? Wasn’t my fault whatever America’s different ethnic groups were fighting over
No, it’s because most black people don’t live in rural areas
If anything happens to farming in America, this country will starve. Literally.
No, American can import but quality can be low.
As an employee of FSA it is really an issue.
@THE ALPHA the farm service agency, did you watch the video?
That's the old way to farm ... permaculture is the future ...
Well done, Vice!
Nothing better than a race baiting video that lacks context.
Apparently two wrongs make a right these days.
100%. The Civil Rights Act of 1964 doesn't matter these days. apnews.com/article/wisconsin-lawsuits-business-31e568255f85fb7655d20319d8dc271d
Yes! Let’s make farming about race! Good job
I think it’s always been like that...
Please ignore Pigford v Glickman and history.
Historically yes, the USDA and banks definitely made it about race
White people literally made everything about race now you’re just taking on the responsibility of your ancestors to fix the wrong doings
@@sekou3758 Well in the US it kinda has. The white community owned farms and were tended to by the slaves which were typically made out of the Black community. The white community has always had an edge on farming, i can honestly tell you that I’ve never seen a African American farmer.
Of color.... Thats not black American.
I'm glad bidden is trying to fix this problem
@Hello John how are you doing?
Ooookaaayyy... Can we just leave the race part aside and help those who farm the land to feed all humans.
Uh no, because this discrimination has less red decades as proven in Pigford v Glickman, you need to look at history and it’s impact.
Let’s leave race aside while black people are being discriminated against by the usda for the last 100 years. Very convenient
@@ricardobarahona3939 What impact does that currently have?
@@davidz2808 A bad long term impact.
www.google.com/amp/s/thecounter.org/usda-black-farmers-discrimination-tom-vilsack-reparations-civil-rights/amp/
www.google.com/amp/s/www.propublica.org/article/how-a-top-chicken-company-cut-off-black-farmers-one-by-one/amp
@@ricardobarahona3939 thanks for the education
I’m I guess you would say is a white farmer and I’d say we need to help farmer of color I can’t understand how people think that there’s not racism, we need to help farmer from all colors and even more help farmer of nonwhite farmer and preserve America agricultural heritage !
“Nobody can bring you peace but yourself.”
Sugar canes demand is dying. It’s being replaced with cheaper beat and corn sugars. Change your crop or you will gain more debt in the future just trying to stay afloat. That’s why farms come and go. It’s not white or black.
I’m a young farmer who started from scratch. I’ve borrowed thousands from FSA and still owe thousands. Hanging on by a thread. Why is my government discriminating against me? Why can I not get relief? Is my blood, sweat, and tears not equal to a black mans?
No they're not honestly & you're probably lying. These farmers have nothing and have loss nearly everything. I'm sure you live a comfy life unlike them
@@chellelechelleI’m better than you
@farmerjustin9081 I'm from the South..Arkansas to be exact, I know yt trash when I see it😅
Tom Vilsack ran out the clock on Obama's administration without tackling any of these issues. Now he's back on the job and it sounds like it's going to be the same outcome.
I know but I’m hopeful this time because the deputy secretary (number 2 top spot behind head of usda) over the USDA is a black American women from Virginia who’s family are farmers!! Plus joe said if he doesn’t see any immediate improvement at the USDA vilsack will be dealt with
I appreciate all farmers but this is just heartbreaking for minority farmers. It is unacceptable that these local offices are doing these acts against the disadvantage farmers. I think the USDA should just have farmers apply directly to them and they can hand out the debt relief. They need to stop letting these local offices steamroll over these farmers getting aid.
Their local offices are aware that Biden's debt relief plan is in violation of the Civil Rights Act of 1964. apnews.com/article/wisconsin-lawsuits-business-31e568255f85fb7655d20319d8dc271d
Debt relief should be given to all who have farms not just black people who make a tiny minority of farmers in America. This should extend to leases on heavy equipment. Fools go on and on about higher education in a world filled with strife caused by the ideology taught in such places. Too few want to work these days, and even less see the importance of agriculture in this rapidly changing world.
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Vice as always going strong with that diversity quota!
How’s taking about black peopel a diversity quota. Get over yourself
White men are the only people in the world who will racially discriminate *against* themselves
@@Flashyfinancier u mean in favour for their own.
@@ad72644 no i mean against ourselves. Joe Biden is discriminating against White farmers here. His message is very clear.
Alot of reactionaries in the comments section
@Juan Mendoza found one
@Juan Mendoza You have issues
If you want progressive reactions, go to Twitter.
@@charlesmiv3842 He wasn’t wrong tho.
@@fdfischer He’s not wrong...
Sad
I hope that one white farmer will watch this video to better understand his fellow black farmer's situation. Hopefully, then he will see the discrimination.
Believe me, a lot of white farmers are talking about this, and I am one.
also I want to say.. i think it is a good idea but it also prejudices one group of poor farmer, while others are left out. Including many never-born-rich white people. The privilege isnt white, its really rich privilege, and now its going black privilege on this one, and so there is people upset who started out poor.