I feel like the man and the dog are each other‘s mirror. When the soldier sees the dog killing the innocent little creature, he sees himself, having to take another soldier‘s life - and almost as if to escape that, he himself shoots the dog, killing it. Now he‘s free. Or is he? There is no safe haven to come home to. Just a burning hellscape. Ultimately, he will follow the dog‘s footsteps, becoming a being that was „trained to kill“ and will fall to another‘s bullet. Just my thoughts here, I love that this animation has made me reflect about this so much! Truly inspiring.
Another interesting thing is that sometimes God is depicted as a burning bush (or at least speaks through one) and while a tree isn't a bush it has the same imagery; it almost feels like it's a sobering punishment for the soldier running away from his line of duty. Kind of like some spiritual message of - hey, get back there!
I know there are probably larger themes and points made in this short, but what really struck me was the portrayal of violence. Outside the gate there is war, in all its large-scale chaos, but the violence inside the fenced garden is just as cruel. It is not the dog's fault that it is chained and violent, it simply doesn't know better. The man has to use violence to get out because persuasion doesn't work. The man might know better, but the circumstances don't allow him to make better choices. The violence inside the garden is self-perpetuating and takes away his choices, just as much as the war outside the garden does.
While I'm sure that there is some deeper meaning that can be pulled out of this piece, on the surface it really strikes me with what I imagine war must be like. It's confusing, scary, frustrating, violent, and doesn't always make sense. It reminds me of a quote by Tim O'Brien: “A true war story is never moral. It does not instruct, nor encourage virtue, nor suggest models of proper human behavior, nor restrain men from doing the things men have always done. ... As a first rule of thumb, therefore, you can tell a true war story by its absolute and uncompromising allegiance to obscenity and evil.” Anyways beautiful work as always. Love this channel.
What I got from this at first glance. The guy was a deserter or someone who just didn't like to kill others. He met the dog, which symbolized the war in this case, and was eventually forced to kill it. It was either him or the dog. In the end he came to terms with it and decided to walk back into combat through a gate with a three headed dog on it, representing the gate of Hades.
I honestly thought he’d kill that chained rabid dog with chocolate, but instead a reddish brown stray eats the chocolate piece instead, but he winds up being killed by that chained rabid dog even though he just ate that piece of chocolate anyway.
from 6:27, there's this dog with three heads at the top of the entry (or exit ?), which seems to represent Cerberus, the guardian of the entrance of Hell in Greek Mythology does that represent the fact that the man is getting out from Hell or the fact that he is going in Hell ? any idea ?
i guess cerberus is supposed to guard the gates of hell from escapees.it may be that war throws those gates open, chocolate means something, animal behaviors and demons yada yada. i thought it looked pretty.overanalysis takes something out of poetry, there are certain hints but it looks as it is.
I thought the same too. I think he's entering hell since beyond the gate is the fire from the war. Also when he killed the dog the tree burst into flames, I see the tree as being the tree of life or something, some sort of safety that he loses once he's killed the dog
my first interpretation is that our current world which is catastrophic with wars can be compared with Hell. You can see that in the background is the vast world in chaos and he killed the dog so it could be a metaphor of someone killing Cerberus then enters hell
How he tried to find some sweetness in his soul (represented by the chocolate, I think) after everything he had experience truly broke my heart, specially because of how the animation ended. He even tried to share it with the dog, which, in my opinion, represented the violence that grew inside of him during the war. So sad, but so true.
As a Polish being I really apreciate this animation. He was a really good character. i named him Jurek. Here, in Polish we loves to eat wedelski chokolate and play with dogs. We don't kill dogs. I have dogs, his name is Czarek. I have chokolate as well. I named her Paulina. also in this animation there wasn't the most important polish word "Kurwa". I give this animation 9/11 plastic bags and snail.
I can’t get over how everything is in simple shapes and with minimal detail, and still so lifelike? Like the emotions in the man’s face after killing the dog were so realistic. I can’t imagine the amount of effort it took to mimic that feeling
I'd just like to point out two things I haven't seen in the other comments: Did you notice, that the dog in the end at 5:50 look way more brownish and less scrubby than before the night? Also, his bandage isn't blood soaked anymore in the morning at 5:54 and even completely taken off at 6:11. Maybe the scene occurred mostly in his head? And the cerberus depicts that now his mind is the real hell after all he endured. There are so many angles to look at and interpret it, I love this animation!
True dog is a symbol of cynicism & and cynicism towards value of human life is always a part of war. It evokes anxiety that dehumanizes people - the anxious see normal people as faces without eyes. So dog can represent soldier's uneasy mind whose wrong codes dragged him into war
This was really amazing and tragic. Watching this as a Pole really made the experience better. I always love it when I see anything related to my home bc it makes me proud and happy to be Polish!! :^)❤🇵🇱 Truly a beautiful job 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 and a really well done representation of what it's like to be in a war and how it changes you, whether that be for the better or worse or both
I've heard polish language in this. I was really surprised. Great accent. Polish history is really inspire and watching this as a pole was great experience. Love the animation and story.
bruh the expressions and sound effects are just so ajdfhirfgh. Especially the sound effect used for when the dog was (spoiler) shot was heart-wrenching. And then the movements of the man were so fluid it was almost like a film that was digitally painted over. So good bro I'm crying.
The symbolism in this one is really cool. I haven't yet worked it all out yet, but I'm certain the burning tree is a reference to the incident in the Bible when Moses sees the presence of God in a burning bush. Like in the Bible, this tree is not consumed by the flames, it burns without withering. I suspect in this film it represents the man's guilt over killing the dog, and likely his fellow humans as well. In that moment, he broke, and felt as though he were in the presence of God himself. When he goes back to the city in the morning, I can't tell whether the image of Cerberus over the gate is meant to signify that he is leaving the Underworld (his dark night of the soul) or entering into a Hellish place (the war).
The burning tree can also be interpreted more litterally. The burning bush was Moses's first encounter with God and it gave him his purpose. If the soldier didn't crawl down from the tree to face the dog, he evidently would have burned to death, solidifying he made the right choice by fighting. Maybe it even gave him enough purpose to carry on. I like your spin on which side of the gate could be considered hell. I didn't think of that.
@@Style50360 Thanks! I actually didn't think of the last part (which side of the gate), until I saw someone else's comment further down... I can't remember who said it, but it got me thinking. I'm inclined to believe he was reentering hell, personally.
just wanna drop my take here too. after he shoots the dog and he lashes out and kicks its corpse, he's mad nature. it's natural instinct. he didn't want to have to kill it, but it was self defense. hes mad at the world and its fighting. the explosions in his town to the fangs in the innocent dog's neck (now that i think about it, the second dog may be representative of bystanders of wars. the man's chocolate would have killed it if not for the first dog. innocent lives are lost) after his outburst, the tree, his refuge, is set alight. the flames of man's battles are seen everywhere. war. nature. he picks up his gun, readjusts his arm band and forges back into his battle
It was beautiful. I think about the chocolate. I think it is a wonder of a good time, of the peace, of a friendly approach. In the beginning, the man try to eat this, but then we give him a gun. Then, he try to be friendly to the dog, and it doesn't move or had any reaction. It had be contionned to not react and to hate the ennemi. Then, the kind dog arrived and eat the chocolate, so it was kind, friendly, it tried an approach, but in war it is impossible. The first dog killed it. It was incredible
Please don't stop posting these shorts. I love how I always watch your videos and assess myself on what's the video might be about and after that searching through the comment section for other perception of the short. Thank you Gobelins for inspiring young minds of ours!
Le chien garde l'entrée d'une porte au dessus de laquelle se distingue un cerbère, porte des enfers ouvrant sur une vision d’apocalypse. Le soldat est mort dés le début, l'arbre est son purgatoire. La guerre l'a englouti. C'est très beau.
@@narutouzumaki-kj8uf Nope il est (selon moi) au purgatoire. Je cite la définition wiki du purgatoire "Dans le catholicisme, le purgatoire est le lieu de purification où les âmes des défunts morts en état de grâce, et assurés du salut éternel, vont expier les péchés dont ils n'ont pas fait une pénitence suffisante avant leur trépas" Ce soldat doit expier le péché de meurtre commis pendant la guerre (c'est un péché qu'il n’a pas vraiment choisi, je pense d'ailleurs qu'il s'en sent très coupable vu sa réaction à la mort du chien) à l'issu du passage au purgatoire (et dans la logique catholique) l'âme doit être dirigée soit au paradis car ces fautes expiées sont finalement pas "si grave" ou en enfer si quoi qu'il en soit l'expiation n'est pas suffisante (c'est le cas pour un meurtre). On voit donc se soldat se diriger vers le passage de la porte des enfers. car son âme est de toute manière perdue à cause de ces faits de guerre. Qu'il soit réellement mort ou non il part en enfer (que se soit l'enfer chrétien ou l'enfer de la guerre) C'est une interprétation personnelle qui semble se tenir :)
@@forkawaza2 merci pour votre explication... Je suis désolée pour soldat.Tout à cause des guerres (Je suis Azerbaïdjanaise . j'apprends la langue française et je suis très contente que vous répondrez ma question) merci
Everyone writes about meaning, symbolism, and I would like to point out that in my life I would not expect an animation with a Polish partisan in Gobelins!
Wow, this is a masterpiece! Not only the brushes of color but also It shows how the war kills humanism. Because of the war, the dog;the symbol of happiness, warmth, guard of the house get changed the symbol of terror, war, and carnnivalism. Then the man walks to the hell, the war. (Cerberus is the dog of the hell.) 재미있게 보았습니다! ^^ 생각할 거리를 던져주는 작품이네요~!
Très beau dessin ! Surtout pour les décors. Intelligent d'avoir allongé l'homme en "chien de fusil" à 5:55, faisant à la fois référence au chien (qu'on voit avant) et au fusil (qu'on voit après)
i know cerberus symbolizes the soldier walking through the gates of hell to the battlefield, but i can’t help also thinking about how it has three heads and there were three dogs in the yard- the wolfhound the stray and the soldier, a dog of war
@@felifeli7668 Oh no... I had no idea. I'm so sorry to here that your nation's in such a state of turmoil. I hope that the government realizes what's right and that the violence stops soon. Best wishes and love from the United States.
The gate had a cerberus on it. Guardian to the entrance of hades/the afterlife. The man was fleeing. The dog was metaphorical to death. He had to overcome his fear of dying/trauma/PTSD to go back to the battle field and fight.
A wandering soldier walks away from an inferno-torn battlefield. He seeks refuge. He's stripped of his weaponry from a chained dog. Forced into a tree he has never been in before. Trained to kill his enemy. To see his enemies as dogs. As lowly beings. A chained dog who knows nothing but survival. The primal urges that have lead it to living as long as it has. It ignores the chocolate bribe. A wandering dog comes in to take the chocolate. But the chained dog knows nothing of sharing. It only knows to fight those who come to hurt it. To take away from it when it has already lost freedom. Freedom the other dog already has away from the tree. Freedom he chooses to use to take away from others. It's what's deemed natural to him. And he dies in pursuit of his endeavors. A soldier provoked to act. The chained dog has killed. He already attacked previous to the wandering dog. He needs to be stopped. But...this is all the dog has ever known. Is it right to...*he fires.* The chained dog joins its victim. The same tree the soldier found refuge in ignites into the very hellfire he sought to escape. The soldier has continued the cycle. The wandering dog's corpse a grim reminder of the fate that could've been his. He packs up his gun. Returning to the hell-scape of war once more.
Even though I dont get the meaning, I love this. The animation and the sound was great! I also love how it uses it a language everyone understands, movement! Please, *more of this!*
There was a 3 headed dog on top of the gate.That must have been Cerberus(guard dog of the underworld).If that is the case,the burning land behind it must have not just been war,but a representation of heck through war.Also,I think the interaction between the man and the 3 dogs symbolized that while we are innocent or were innocent originally,we all have to succumb to kill or be killed to some degree at some point when conditions have become too life threatening for us.Sometimes we have a choice and sometimes we don’t.Also,I think the yard represented a sort of temporary heaven or sanctuary.I say this because it is the only thing other than the field beyond it that hasn’t been blown up or caught on fire(until the tree set on fire).I think the attack and the yard as a whole was a way of saying to the man,”You can stay here as long as you want.But at the cost of fighting for your life against the dog.If you want this to be yours,it’s either him or you.Peace isn’t always free.”Though at the end it belonged to no one.Lastly,I feel like the burning tree resembled the burning bush Moses encountered before setting off to save Gods people.However,instead of the message “Save my people”,It served as a reminder to the heck that the man had to go back to.In that case,the message was,”You had your time of rest,now go back to heck where you belong.”I say this also because the tree was burning,yet at the end at 6:19 it’s completely fine.
I think that the man resented that the chained dog was being violent out of necessity, because then it is not easy to categorize the dog that is attacking him as a "bad dog" or an enemy. The dog was only lashing out because it has to to eat and protect itself. Maybe the soldier resented that the chained dog had been forced into his situation while the man probably made a CHOICE to be a violent soldier who commits unneded acts of pure evil. The man is not killing to survive like the dog is. He is killing because he chose to enter a war. Maybe the man hated that he had no real reason to hate the chained dog. When the dog acted scary again, he used it as an emotional opportunity to kill it. He kicked the dead dog out of spite for the dog for not being evil and out of spite for whatever made him feel like he was supposed to make the choice to be a bad person.
À la jolie métaphore des portes de l'enfer avec le chien, ce fût très émotionnel et très touchant, quelque chose qui manqué aux derniers sortis pour des sujets durs.
What strikes me the most is the burning tree. It reminds me of Moses' encounter with God, who embodies as a fire that seemingly burns the tree. The first kill is always the hardest, and as a soldier, he can't always run away from what he is tasked to do. The burning tree represents guilt, sin, betrayal of his conscience.
6:28 A 3 headed dog; A Cerberus, There are 3 characters in the short film; the man, the chained dog, and the stray dog. The chained dog killed an innocent stray dog, The man killed the chained dog, which in turn made him a murderer. He then lefts and is headed towards the gate. 3 heads, onr body.
lovetson marquee I wouldn’t say poor dogs, because the vicious one deserved to be killed, we literally saw it tear the other dog into pieces and it would have done the same to the man.
@@username01675 Deserved would be too big word. I think it had rabbies and it rather wasn't its fault it got infected. Bad things happen. It had to be killed. It would pose danger otherwise
Saw a comment by ella dara nora that sums it up pretty well(I think). Essentially, we are what we've been trained or conditioned to become. The chained dog probably wasn't treated very well, so he's mean as hell. The stray is a chill dog. The soldier we see in the story hasn't been fully turned into a, "mean as hell" person or a, "chill dog person." When he finally chooses to end the chained dog, it seals his fate as a soldier and he returns to hell/war since that's what soldiers do.
So, he tried leaving the literal war, but found war outside as well with the dog, and goes back into "Hell" - going back to the war. Like it's an inescapable thing - death, fighting, pain, killing. He definitely tried to walk away from the war by leaving the city in the beginning.
The man dies at the beginning from the bombs. His soul wanders but cant find peace. The dog is anger and violence personified ready to tear anything to shreds - a symbol of war. The man's spirit wrestles with it before finally moving on past the gates of Cerberus into the underworld
I was wondering why no comments talk about the opening. If the guy has already been killed by the bombs, it could be very different from those many other commentors' perceptions. 🤔 p.s. I do hope that the storyteller can render some more explanations in the introduction. 🙄
So this is my interpretation of this, might I add, beautiful film. At the end of the film it shows us the three-headed dog on the gate, which in Greek mythology, is Cerberus who guards the underworld/hell. Most tales you hear from war make it sound like hell, which I can imagine it is, so killing that dog was his "test" to grant him passage into hell/underworld. I thought I might share that, but you don't have to listen to me, you can make it out to be whatever you want it to be.
The good dog is the symbol of the sacrifice that needs to be taken to free the people from the enemy. It's the symbol of Warsaw Uprising luring out the enemy to leave ordinary people alone, the enemy that's already on a short leash alone, bound to death due to starvation anyway. This scene is reflecting the reason of uprising to the man to come back to the battleground, it's pointed out by the revelation moment.
@Retro Clem it's like the polish resistance in the 40s, that polish armband in his arm looks like it. and the ruins at the first of the video looks kinda like Warsaw to me
@@jakartagamer6188 Read further: "A young Polish partisan flees from the Warsaw Uprising. Whilst hiding in the yard of a countryside manor, he is chased up a tree by a large wolfhound. With his rifle out of reach, there seems to be no way to escape his predicament."
Je voulais trouver un explication dans les commentaires mais la plupart sont en anglais XD J'ai fait Espagnol LV1 -_- Sinon c'est super c'est passé trop vite T-T Je m'y connais pas trop mais j'ai adoré le style des dessins et l'animation (Le chien était super effrayant XD) Et les détailles des paysages et arrières plans... ouuuaaah rien à dire
There’s a three-headed dog on the gate. The stray and the rabid dog are the first 2 dogs, and the soldier is the last dog. It’s a metaphor of how all soldiers end up as dogs for the government, and they all end up killing one another. In the end, it’s all for survival, but wouldn’t it be better if we didn’t have to kill each other in the first place?
The media I'm working on was pointed out to be similar, however mine is motion art using sculpture video. My own invented method. And instead of wormy fingers the characters seem to move or have life even when still and the environment is as machine like and pulsing as possible. It's related to animation I would say only by the waiting process which is long. I really do like your flat tone single pallets and prefer something similar, so I see a relative technique as has been pointed out to me. A difference in pallet is my use of somewhat shocking or violent unnatural extra neon or bright colors. I like to bring com ffg or snd familiar melody first and then drop the beat and elevate the dramatics to keep attention of audiences. Fireworks. So I enjoyed this intro immensely. On the similar pallets; Perhaps it's french or perhaps it comes from the study of classical art styles. We must both be equal subjects in such influences. I did enjoy your work. So I will not deny any future similarities as anything less than direct influence.
Is that Cerberus atop the gate at the end? Considering the explosion at the beginning it seems the man is already dead. Perhaps he comes to that realisation and as there is no escaping hell, he walks back into it. Could be totally wrong, but either way, Gobelins has put some really deep existential layers into this piece. It's core is both dark and consuming, but Imho, very well done.
По всей видимости центральная идея короткометражки - гражданская война. Так как повязка на руке героя бело-красная это может быть связано с граждананской войной в Польше. Главный герой - мужчина, который уходит из города, охваченного войной. В дезертирстве он встречается с собакой, которая возможно представляет абсолютное зло (представитель государственной власти?) и, будучи неспособным ей противостоять (теряет оружие, возможно символизирует отсутствие рычагов давления на власть), прячется на дереве. Дерево имеет какое-то символическое значение, потому что оно загорелось в конце анимации, при этом явно не для развития сюжета, на него это никак не повлияло. Дерево-дуб по всей видимости символизирует что-то светлое, в Древней Греции его ассоциировали с духовной силой. Там мужчина чувствует себя в безопасности, хотя и не способен там долго просидеть. Либо же дерево может символизировать несвободу, т.к. мужчина не может дальше продолжить свой путь и вынужден сидеть на дереве. В какой-то момент он пытается задобрить абсолютное зло, но одной шоколадки для этого оказывается недостаточно. Сбежать он решается в момент, когда собака отвлекается на что-то внешнее, но встретиться лицом к лицу с врагом всё равно приходится и он с трудом и сквозь слёзы принимает решение использовать оружие. Это переломный момент, несмотря на то, что в начале мужчина тяжело принимает тот факт, что смог убить живое существо (а человеческие потери неизбежны и в гражданской войне), он в итоге уже не может вернуться к светлому избеганию и дезертирству (дерево сгорело) и возвращается в охваченный гражданской войной город, готовый сражаться, видя в этом единственный выход. Либо же дерево горело как божественный символ (неопалимая купина в христианстве) призывающий вернуться в город и сражаться за свободу. В итоге я придумала две трактовки с полярными мнениями: пацифистским и радикальным, честно говоря не знаю какая из них мне кажется правдивей
The soldier saw a premonition of defeat. The tree represents the country, the dog the soldiers bounded to fight for her like they are chain. As the war thickens and defeat is imminent, soldiers became like that dog. He knows that when they stepped beyond that point there are no other salvation but being killed in the field which in turn would set fire to the country in which it was tied, meaning losses. But he still heads to war despite
I noticed how he tried to feed the dog chocolate before the other one came. He wanted to kill the vicious dog before he saw it kill the innocent one. But even if the vicious dog did not kill the normal dog, the normal dog would have died because it ate the chocolate, even if the man did not intend for that to happen
Gobelins messed up and uploaded it the wrong way it seems. They should have apologized to the directors because it's disrespectful to their work in my opinion. Great work guys!
The man is dead, he die in the beginning...I think this is his journey to where he will spend eternity. The chained dog represents himself/ the tragic end of his life. The tree delivers his judgement & he enters hell as he will know it.
I feel like the man and the dog are each other‘s mirror. When the soldier sees the dog killing the innocent little creature, he sees himself, having to take another soldier‘s life - and almost as if to escape that, he himself shoots the dog, killing it. Now he‘s free. Or is he? There is no safe haven to come home to. Just a burning hellscape. Ultimately, he will follow the dog‘s footsteps, becoming a being that was „trained to kill“ and will fall to another‘s bullet.
Just my thoughts here, I love that this animation has made me reflect about this so much! Truly inspiring.
I had almost the same idea!
Btw I like your description of it being like a hellscape which makes sense because of the tree 👍
Another interesting thing is that sometimes God is depicted as a burning bush (or at least speaks through one) and while a tree isn't a bush it has the same imagery; it almost feels like it's a sobering punishment for the soldier running away from his line of duty. Kind of like some spiritual message of - hey, get back there!
@@KingSKRILby I did not think of that, but that is so interesting! Man, I love it when my mind gets blown like this.
@@katostrich I'm right there with you! I love when you can take your own meaning and interpretations from an art piece - thus is the beauty of it!
I know there are probably larger themes and points made in this short, but what really struck me was the portrayal of violence. Outside the gate there is war, in all its large-scale chaos, but the violence inside the fenced garden is just as cruel. It is not the dog's fault that it is chained and violent, it simply doesn't know better. The man has to use violence to get out because persuasion doesn't work. The man might know better, but the circumstances don't allow him to make better choices. The violence inside the garden is self-perpetuating and takes away his choices, just as much as the war outside the garden does.
I love how everything looks oil painted
@Jakub BEDNARZ oh wow!!!
While I'm sure that there is some deeper meaning that can be pulled out of this piece, on the surface it really strikes me with what I imagine war must be like. It's confusing, scary, frustrating, violent, and doesn't always make sense. It reminds me of a quote by Tim O'Brien: “A true war story is never moral. It does not instruct, nor encourage virtue, nor suggest models of proper human behavior, nor restrain men from doing the things men have always done. ... As a first rule of thumb, therefore, you can tell a true war story by its absolute and uncompromising allegiance to obscenity and evil.”
Anyways beautiful work as always. Love this channel.
What I got from this at first glance. The guy was a deserter or someone who just didn't like to kill others. He met the dog, which symbolized the war in this case, and was eventually forced to kill it. It was either him or the dog. In the end he came to terms with it and decided to walk back into combat through a gate with a three headed dog on it, representing the gate of Hades.
@@charl9414 cerberus
War is so obscene because the people who start wars and send men to fight in them never have to see it or be a part of it.
I love the landscape and scenery, it’s such a beautiful setting for a tragic story.
I wonder if this art style was intentionally modeled after Van Gogh. I can't quite tell if it's just a coincidence.
@@VerbenaHA Surely it was taken inspired of when they made this short.
lol, i thought the man would kill the dog by giving him chocolate.
No, he would have to give the dog like two pounds of chocolate to kill him.
I honestly thought he’d kill that chained rabid dog with chocolate, but instead a reddish brown stray eats the chocolate piece instead, but he winds up being killed by that chained rabid dog even though he just ate that piece of chocolate anyway.
Giving the dog chocolate was clever, whether to make it sick or to befriend it. Shame it didn't work out...
same
Me too
I thought this video was going to be a heartwarming story about a human becoming a dogs friend....... I was wrong
Lmao😂😂
from 6:27, there's this dog with three heads at the top of the entry (or exit ?), which seems to represent Cerberus, the guardian of the entrance of Hell in Greek Mythology
does that represent the fact that the man is getting out from Hell or the fact that he is going in Hell ?
any idea ?
He had to defeat Cerberus to enter Hell=War
i guess cerberus is supposed to guard the gates of hell from escapees.it may be that war throws those gates open, chocolate means something, animal behaviors and demons yada yada.
i thought it looked pretty.overanalysis takes something out of poetry, there are certain hints but it looks as it is.
I thought the same too. I think he's entering hell since beyond the gate is the fire from the war. Also when he killed the dog the tree burst into flames, I see the tree as being the tree of life or something, some sort of safety that he loses once he's killed the dog
@@sebastianalvarez4211 Either way, by going through that gate, the man goes from one Hell in another.
my first interpretation is that our current world which is catastrophic with wars can be compared with Hell. You can see that in the background is the vast world in chaos and he killed the dog so it could be a metaphor of someone killing Cerberus then enters hell
I love the imagery of this one! It's cerberus and the gates to the underworld!
How he tried to find some sweetness in his soul (represented by the chocolate, I think) after everything he had experience truly broke my heart, specially because of how the animation ended. He even tried to share it with the dog, which, in my opinion, represented the violence that grew inside of him during the war. So sad, but so true.
oh he was Cerberus, keeping the man from entering hell, but his fate was hell. Deep
We don't know from which side the gate opens. Maybe he was exiting hell because he finally found his purpose?
@@Style50360 From the imagery beyond the gate in the ending scene, it seems pretty clear that the war going on is supposed to be hell.
As a Polish being I really apreciate this animation. He was a really good character. i named him Jurek. Here, in Polish we loves to eat wedelski chokolate and play with dogs. We don't kill dogs. I have dogs, his name is Czarek. I have chokolate as well. I named her Paulina. also in this animation there wasn't the most important polish word "Kurwa". I give this animation 9/11 plastic bags and snail.
I can’t get over how everything is in simple shapes and with minimal detail, and still so lifelike? Like the emotions in the man’s face after killing the dog were so realistic. I can’t imagine the amount of effort it took to mimic that feeling
I'd just like to point out two things I haven't seen in the other comments:
Did you notice, that the dog in the end at 5:50 look way more brownish and less scrubby than before the night?
Also, his bandage isn't blood soaked anymore in the morning at 5:54 and even completely taken off at 6:11.
Maybe the scene occurred mostly in his head? And the cerberus depicts that now his mind is the real hell after all he endured.
There are so many angles to look at and interpret it, I love this animation!
True dog is a symbol of cynicism & and cynicism towards value of human life is always a part of war. It evokes anxiety that dehumanizes people - the anxious see normal people as faces without eyes. So dog can represent soldier's uneasy mind whose wrong codes dragged him into war
This was really amazing and tragic. Watching this as a Pole really made the experience better. I always love it when I see anything related to my home bc it makes me proud and happy to be Polish!! :^)❤🇵🇱 Truly a beautiful job 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 and a really well done representation of what it's like to be in a war and how it changes you, whether that be for the better or worse or both
I've heard polish language in this. I was really surprised. Great accent. Polish history is really inspire and watching this as a pole was great experience.
Love the animation and story.
Hi. One of the creators here. This was my voice and I'm Polish. Thanks for the comment on my accent anyways:D very appreciated.
@@kubatolubie you did such a awesome job on this short animation!! It's great to hear fellow Poles 💖🇵🇱 it makes me happy :D
bruh the expressions and sound effects are just so ajdfhirfgh. Especially the sound effect used for when the dog was (spoiler) shot was heart-wrenching. And then the movements of the man were so fluid it was almost like a film that was digitally painted over. So good bro I'm crying.
J'adore les jeux de lumières et ombres, ça donne une super ambiance aux scènes
The symbolism in this one is really cool. I haven't yet worked it all out yet, but I'm certain the burning tree is a reference to the incident in the Bible when Moses sees the presence of God in a burning bush. Like in the Bible, this tree is not consumed by the flames, it burns without withering. I suspect in this film it represents the man's guilt over killing the dog, and likely his fellow humans as well. In that moment, he broke, and felt as though he were in the presence of God himself.
When he goes back to the city in the morning, I can't tell whether the image of Cerberus over the gate is meant to signify that he is leaving the Underworld (his dark night of the soul) or entering into a Hellish place (the war).
The burning tree can also be interpreted more litterally. The burning bush was Moses's first encounter with God and it gave him his purpose. If the soldier didn't crawl down from the tree to face the dog, he evidently would have burned to death, solidifying he made the right choice by fighting. Maybe it even gave him enough purpose to carry on. I like your spin on which side of the gate could be considered hell. I didn't think of that.
@@Style50360 Thanks! I actually didn't think of the last part (which side of the gate), until I saw someone else's comment further down... I can't remember who said it, but it got me thinking. I'm inclined to believe he was reentering hell, personally.
I believe that it's he entering hell as the gate open towards the city and war fare
I don't think it's a reference to burning bush😅
@@ilovemylifeyay Why is that?
just wanna drop my take here too. after he shoots the dog and he lashes out and kicks its corpse, he's mad nature. it's natural instinct. he didn't want to have to kill it, but it was self defense. hes mad at the world and its fighting. the explosions in his town to the fangs in the innocent dog's neck
(now that i think about it, the second dog may be representative of bystanders of wars. the man's chocolate would have killed it if not for the first dog. innocent lives are lost)
after his outburst, the tree, his refuge, is set alight. the flames of man's battles are seen everywhere. war. nature.
he picks up his gun, readjusts his arm band and forges back into his battle
It was beautiful.
I think about the chocolate. I think it is a wonder of a good time, of the peace, of a friendly approach. In the beginning, the man try to eat this, but then we give him a gun.
Then, he try to be friendly to the dog, and it doesn't move or had any reaction. It had be contionned to not react and to hate the ennemi.
Then, the kind dog arrived and eat the chocolate, so it was kind, friendly, it tried an approach, but in war it is impossible. The first dog killed it.
It was incredible
Naprawde nie sadziłem ze gobelins zrobi coś o Polsce. I wyszło naprawdę epicko. I smutno.
Amazing animation. Gobelins is truly one of the best.
Each year I’m happy I can watch all of this hard work come to life.
Please don't stop posting these shorts. I love how I always watch your videos and assess myself on what's the video might be about and after that searching through the comment section for other perception of the short. Thank you Gobelins for inspiring young minds of ours!
Le chien garde l'entrée d'une porte au dessus de laquelle se distingue un cerbère, porte des enfers ouvrant sur une vision d’apocalypse. Le soldat est mort dés le début, l'arbre est son purgatoire. La guerre l'a englouti.
C'est très beau.
Quand il reste sur l'arbre ? C'est à dire il est dans le paradis???
@@narutouzumaki-kj8uf Nope il est (selon moi) au purgatoire.
Je cite la définition wiki du purgatoire "Dans le catholicisme, le purgatoire est le lieu de purification où les âmes des défunts morts en état de grâce, et assurés du salut éternel, vont expier les péchés dont ils n'ont pas fait une pénitence suffisante avant leur trépas"
Ce soldat doit expier le péché de meurtre commis pendant la guerre (c'est un péché qu'il n’a pas vraiment choisi, je pense d'ailleurs qu'il s'en sent très coupable vu sa réaction à la mort du chien)
à l'issu du passage au purgatoire (et dans la logique catholique) l'âme doit être dirigée soit au paradis car ces fautes expiées sont finalement pas "si grave" ou en enfer si quoi qu'il en soit l'expiation n'est pas suffisante (c'est le cas pour un meurtre).
On voit donc se soldat se diriger vers le passage de la porte des enfers. car son âme est de toute manière perdue à cause de ces faits de guerre.
Qu'il soit réellement mort ou non il part en enfer (que se soit l'enfer chrétien ou l'enfer de la guerre)
C'est une interprétation personnelle qui semble se tenir :)
@@forkawaza2 merci pour votre explication... Je suis désolée pour soldat.Tout à cause des guerres
(Je suis Azerbaïdjanaise . j'apprends la langue française et je suis très contente que vous répondrez ma question) merci
@@narutouzumaki-kj8uf avec grand plaisir !
The use of frame in frame composition is amazing. This one was really cool
Everyone writes about meaning, symbolism, and I would like to point out that in my life I would not expect an animation with a Polish partisan in Gobelins!
It turned out beautifully wow!! so fantastic seeing how this came together I adore the painterly style!
Wow, this is a masterpiece! Not only the brushes of color but also It shows how the war kills humanism. Because of the war, the dog;the symbol of happiness, warmth, guard of the house get changed the symbol of terror, war, and carnnivalism. Then the man walks to the hell, the war. (Cerberus is the dog of the hell.)
재미있게 보았습니다! ^^ 생각할 거리를 던져주는 작품이네요~!
Très beau dessin ! Surtout pour les décors.
Intelligent d'avoir allongé l'homme en "chien de fusil" à 5:55, faisant à la fois référence au chien (qu'on voit avant) et au fusil (qu'on voit après)
i know cerberus symbolizes the soldier walking through the gates of hell to the battlefield, but i can’t help also thinking about how it has three heads and there were three dogs in the yard- the wolfhound the stray and the soldier, a dog of war
I'm in Chile right now and this really makes sense, all the sense.
What's happening in Chile?
Michael Thompson a social revolution, the goverment tries to errase it with violence. The soldiers are in the streets killing people
@@felifeli7668 Oh no... I had no idea. I'm so sorry to here that your nation's in such a state of turmoil. I hope that the government realizes what's right and that the violence stops soon. Best wishes and love from the United States.
So many possible interpretations and a beautiful video, too. Excellence.
The gate had a cerberus on it. Guardian to the entrance of hades/the afterlife. The man was fleeing. The dog was metaphorical to death. He had to overcome his fear of dying/trauma/PTSD to go back to the battle field and fight.
A wandering soldier walks away from an inferno-torn battlefield. He seeks refuge. He's stripped of his weaponry from a chained dog. Forced into a tree he has never been in before. Trained to kill his enemy. To see his enemies as dogs. As lowly beings. A chained dog who knows nothing but survival. The primal urges that have lead it to living as long as it has. It ignores the chocolate bribe. A wandering dog comes in to take the chocolate. But the chained dog knows nothing of sharing. It only knows to fight those who come to hurt it. To take away from it when it has already lost freedom. Freedom the other dog already has away from the tree. Freedom he chooses to use to take away from others. It's what's deemed natural to him. And he dies in pursuit of his endeavors. A soldier provoked to act. The chained dog has killed. He already attacked previous to the wandering dog. He needs to be stopped. But...this is all the dog has ever known. Is it right to...*he fires.* The chained dog joins its victim. The same tree the soldier found refuge in ignites into the very hellfire he sought to escape. The soldier has continued the cycle. The wandering dog's corpse a grim reminder of the fate that could've been his. He packs up his gun. Returning to the hell-scape of war once more.
Beautiful masterpiece i got very shocked at the burning tree that dog just gave him new life 🔥🔥🎄😭🐶😱😲😘😘😘
Even though I dont get the meaning, I love this. The animation and the sound was great! I also love how it uses it a language everyone understands, movement! Please, *more of this!*
There was a 3 headed dog on top of the gate.That must have been Cerberus(guard dog of the underworld).If that is the case,the burning land behind it must have not just been war,but a representation of heck through war.Also,I think the interaction between the man and the 3 dogs symbolized that while we are innocent or were innocent originally,we all have to succumb to kill or be killed to some degree at some point when conditions have become too life threatening for us.Sometimes we have a choice and sometimes we don’t.Also,I think the yard represented a sort of temporary heaven or sanctuary.I say this because it is the only thing other than the field beyond it that hasn’t been blown up or caught on fire(until the tree set on fire).I think the attack and the yard as a whole was a way of saying to the man,”You can stay here as long as you want.But at the cost of fighting for your life against the dog.If you want this to be yours,it’s either him or you.Peace isn’t always free.”Though at the end it belonged to no one.Lastly,I feel like the burning tree resembled the burning bush Moses encountered before setting off to save Gods people.However,instead of the message “Save my people”,It served as a reminder to the heck that the man had to go back to.In that case,the message was,”You had your time of rest,now go back to heck where you belong.”I say this also because the tree was burning,yet at the end at 6:19 it’s completely fine.
I think that the man resented that the chained dog was being violent out of necessity, because then it is not easy to categorize the dog that is attacking him as a "bad dog" or an enemy. The dog was only lashing out because it has to to eat and protect itself.
Maybe the soldier resented that the chained dog had been forced into his situation while the man probably made a CHOICE to be a violent soldier who commits unneded acts of pure evil. The man is not killing to survive like the dog is. He is killing because he chose to enter a war.
Maybe the man hated that he had no real reason to hate the chained dog.
When the dog acted scary again, he used it as an emotional opportunity to kill it.
He kicked the dead dog out of spite for the dog for not being evil and out of spite for whatever made him feel like he was supposed to make the choice to be a bad person.
Wooow, le clin d'œil à Cerbère le chien a 3 têtes, qui garde la porte des enfers, c'est bien vu.
I just put my dog to sleep and it came into my recommendation
Oh I'm so sorry, my dog just passed recently as well.
À la jolie métaphore des portes de l'enfer avec le chien, ce fût très émotionnel et très touchant, quelque chose qui manqué aux derniers sortis pour des sujets durs.
Every frame looks like an expensive painting! The animation is stunning.
What strikes me the most is the burning tree. It reminds me of Moses' encounter with God, who embodies as a fire that seemingly burns the tree. The first kill is always the hardest, and as a soldier, he can't always run away from what he is tasked to do. The burning tree represents guilt, sin, betrayal of his conscience.
Esto es lo más hermoso y más terrible que he visto en mucho tiempo ❤️
6:28 A 3 headed dog; A Cerberus,
There are 3 characters in the short film; the man, the chained dog, and the stray dog.
The chained dog killed an innocent stray dog,
The man killed the chained dog, which in turn made him a murderer.
He then lefts and is headed towards the gate.
3 heads, onr body.
I didn't read the description and was so pleasantly surprised to hear my language wow
Сильная работа! Под впечатлением.
I have no words to describe how amazing this masterpiece is!
Another masterpiece! great work! Bit depressing those poor dogs died I will admit but fantastically made
lovetson marquee I wouldn’t say poor dogs, because the vicious one deserved to be killed, we literally saw it tear the other dog into pieces and it would have done the same to the man.
@@username01675 Deserved would be too big word. I think it had rabbies and it rather wasn't its fault it got infected. Bad things happen. It had to be killed. It would pose danger otherwise
Saw a comment by ella dara nora that sums it up pretty well(I think). Essentially, we are what we've been trained or conditioned to become. The chained dog probably wasn't treated very well, so he's mean as hell. The stray is a chill dog. The soldier we see in the story hasn't been fully turned into a, "mean as hell" person or a, "chill dog person." When he finally chooses to end the chained dog, it seals his fate as a soldier and he returns to hell/war since that's what soldiers do.
What’s awesome is that I learned French from these videos
Ej Ej Ej!!! Ten genialny film jest POLSKI!!!
Witajcie rodacy! 😊😄
Thanks for introducing me to Jerycho. Polish gregorian chant type band. Wow.
I thought this was Polish before I even clicked on the video
So, he tried leaving the literal war, but found war outside as well with the dog, and goes back into "Hell" - going back to the war. Like it's an inescapable thing - death, fighting, pain, killing. He definitely tried to walk away from the war by leaving the city in the beginning.
The man dies at the beginning from the bombs. His soul wanders but cant find peace. The dog is anger and violence personified ready to tear anything to shreds - a symbol of war. The man's spirit wrestles with it before finally moving on past the gates of Cerberus into the underworld
I was wondering why no comments talk about the opening. If the guy has already been killed by the bombs, it could be very different from those many other commentors' perceptions. 🤔
p.s. I do hope that the storyteller can render some more explanations in the introduction. 🙄
The mix media flows so well with the atmosphere and the colors 🥺
It's so amazing how this channel comes out with beautiful polished animations every week
Keep Up The Work
Me pareció hermoso, el estilo de dibujo, la música, el escenario, la historia; todo tiene un aire a melancolía
So this is my interpretation of this, might I add, beautiful film. At the end of the film it shows us the three-headed dog on the gate, which in Greek mythology, is Cerberus who guards the underworld/hell. Most tales you hear from war make it sound like hell, which I can imagine it is, so killing that dog was his "test" to grant him passage into hell/underworld. I thought I might share that, but you don't have to listen to me, you can make it out to be whatever you want it to be.
Aw the painting look like Van Gogh style somehow. Very relaxing
Animation... is very good.... I LOVE IT!
The good dog is the symbol of the sacrifice that needs to be taken to free the people from the enemy. It's the symbol of Warsaw Uprising luring out the enemy to leave ordinary people alone, the enemy that's already on a short leash alone, bound to death due to starvation anyway. This scene is reflecting the reason of uprising to the man to come back to the battleground, it's pointed out by the revelation moment.
I like this channel , maybe the best ! Continue your great job you all are really talented and good ! Good Works! 💕😍
Superb animation and fantastic visual storytelling :-)
Cerberus guarding the gates of Hell
for some reason this is the polish resistance in the 40s
so what the hell this video means?
@Retro Clem it's like the polish resistance in the 40s, that polish armband in his arm looks like it. and the ruins at the first of the video
looks kinda like Warsaw to me
@@jakartagamer6188 Reading the video description would save you a lot of grief and confusion. 🙄
@@cannibalisticfawn5895 it's in french you baguette
@@jakartagamer6188 Read further:
"A young Polish partisan flees from the Warsaw Uprising. Whilst hiding in the yard of a countryside manor, he is chased up a tree by a large wolfhound. With his rifle out of reach, there seems to be no way to escape his predicament."
@@jakartagamer6188 Its called scrolling, you pierogie. Seriously.
Beautiful piece. I take the screenshots of tree and grass..🌸😀
The art is soooo good 👍
Wow. This is so hauntingly beautiful, really amazing work
C'est troo beau! Vous devez faire un film!
Je voulais trouver un explication dans les commentaires mais la plupart sont en anglais XD J'ai fait Espagnol LV1 -_-
Sinon c'est super c'est passé trop vite T-T
Je m'y connais pas trop mais j'ai adoré le style des dessins et l'animation (Le chien était super effrayant XD)
Et les détailles des paysages et arrières plans... ouuuaaah rien à dire
There’s a three-headed dog on the gate. The stray and the rabid dog are the first 2 dogs, and the soldier is the last dog. It’s a metaphor of how all soldiers end up as dogs for the government, and they all end up killing one another. In the end, it’s all for survival, but wouldn’t it be better if we didn’t have to kill each other in the first place?
The media I'm working on was pointed out to be similar, however mine is motion art using sculpture video. My own invented method. And instead of wormy fingers the characters seem to move or have life even when still and the environment is as machine like and pulsing as possible. It's related to animation I would say only by the waiting process which is long. I really do like your flat tone single pallets and prefer something similar, so I see a relative technique as has been pointed out to me. A difference in pallet is my use of somewhat shocking or violent unnatural extra neon or bright colors. I like to bring com ffg or snd familiar melody first and then drop the beat and elevate the dramatics to keep attention of audiences. Fireworks. So I enjoyed this intro immensely. On the similar pallets; Perhaps it's french or perhaps it comes from the study of classical art styles. We must both be equal subjects in such influences. I did enjoy your work. So I will not deny any future similarities as anything less than direct influence.
Сгорела боль первого убийства. Теперь он готов к войне. (Rus)
The pain of the first murder burned down. Now he's ready for war.
Wasn't expecting that ending, great idea!
this one is my favourite of Gobelins
Is that Cerberus atop the gate at the end? Considering the explosion at the beginning it seems the man is already dead. Perhaps he comes to that realisation and as there is no escaping hell, he walks back into it. Could be totally wrong, but either way, Gobelins has put some really deep existential layers into this piece. It's core is both dark and consuming, but Imho, very well done.
That was truly epic, great job to the entire team!
They painted a 7 minute animation
If we hypothetically say there were 24 frames per second and they animated on 2s, that's 5000 paintings!
I like how his eyes are just shadows for the most part. It's about depersonalization and lacking humanity
Some part of his humanity must have smoldered in him;a beast in human skin wouldn't cry if it killed a dog.
По всей видимости центральная идея короткометражки - гражданская война. Так как повязка на руке героя бело-красная это может быть связано с граждананской войной в Польше.
Главный герой - мужчина, который уходит из города, охваченного войной. В дезертирстве он встречается с собакой, которая возможно представляет абсолютное зло (представитель государственной власти?) и, будучи неспособным ей противостоять (теряет оружие, возможно символизирует отсутствие рычагов давления на власть), прячется на дереве.
Дерево имеет какое-то символическое значение, потому что оно загорелось в конце анимации, при этом явно не для развития сюжета, на него это никак не повлияло. Дерево-дуб по всей видимости символизирует что-то светлое, в Древней Греции его ассоциировали с духовной силой. Там мужчина чувствует себя в безопасности, хотя и не способен там долго просидеть.
Либо же дерево может символизировать несвободу, т.к. мужчина не может дальше продолжить свой путь и вынужден сидеть на дереве.
В какой-то момент он пытается задобрить абсолютное зло, но одной шоколадки для этого оказывается недостаточно.
Сбежать он решается в момент, когда собака отвлекается на что-то внешнее, но встретиться лицом к лицу с врагом всё равно приходится и он с трудом и сквозь слёзы принимает решение использовать оружие. Это переломный момент, несмотря на то, что в начале мужчина тяжело принимает тот факт, что смог убить живое существо (а человеческие потери неизбежны и в гражданской войне), он в итоге уже не может вернуться к светлому избеганию и дезертирству (дерево сгорело) и возвращается в охваченный гражданской войной город, готовый сражаться, видя в этом единственный выход. Либо же дерево горело как божественный символ (неопалимая купина в христианстве) призывающий вернуться в город и сражаться за свободу.
В итоге я придумала две трактовки с полярными мнениями: пацифистским и радикальным, честно говоря не знаю какая из них мне кажется правдивей
is no one gonna talk about the fact that the man gave the dog some chocolate? it wouldve died anyways-
ستايل الرسم جميل جداً
I love this channel ❤️
The soldier saw a premonition of defeat. The tree represents the country, the dog the soldiers bounded to fight for her like they are chain. As the war thickens and defeat is imminent, soldiers became like that dog. He knows that when they stepped beyond that point there are no other salvation but being killed in the field which in turn would set fire to the country in which it was tied, meaning losses. But he still heads to war despite
This will make a movie for sure
much better hehe, love gobelins ❤️
Wow the explosions are incredible
I noticed how he tried to feed the dog chocolate before the other one came. He wanted to kill the vicious dog before he saw it kill the innocent one.
But even if the vicious dog did not kill the normal dog, the normal dog would have died because it ate the chocolate, even if the man did not intend for that to happen
Incroyable.
Please don't give dog chocolate...really depressing but i love the art and yes this is better views than the vr one
Gobelins messed up and uploaded it the wrong way it seems. They should have apologized to the directors because it's disrespectful to their work in my opinion. Great work guys!
Melodie Rm much appreciated !
- talking for all seven of us
@@benjaminberrebi3180 Is this film not the final product? I do like Gobelins films, I'd like to support the artists if I can.
Polish girl here, nice
Wow sad but beautifully made
When the gun goes flying at 1:39, I was half-expecting it to fire & shoot the man when it hit the ground.
Jeez, I can't help but think that without disinfectant the bite will make him rabied or sick over time. Did he really escape without consequences?
Yes
🎬🎥🔥
Man was just tryna eat his chocolate bar😭
The man is dead, he die in the beginning...I think this is his journey to where he will spend eternity. The chained dog represents himself/ the tragic end of his life. The tree delivers his judgement & he enters hell as he will know it.