"How much do they get paid?!" Colby Raha has a serious opinion about Supercross rider pay... Gyps...
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- Опубликовано: 27 авг 2024
- On one hand, Colby Raha is the last of a dying breed of hardcore Freeriders that made their name from sending it in the hills to a heavy soundtrack of punk rock and metal. On the flip side of that same coin though, Colby is leading the charge of innovative new riders taking advantage of every opportunity available to them; from X Games competitions, RUclips channels, feature length movies and Factory Husky deals. This has made Colby one of the top dogs in the sport of Freeriding in the last few years and we are stoked to finally get a chance to sit down with the legend himself!
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If they would air the races on an easily watchable platform that would make a big difference in the viewership and increase the popularity.. I am a motohead as well, and couldnt watch a single MX race this year due to the glitchy ass streaming service.. Supercross should be as popular as any other motosport IMO.. Get some better coverage!!!!!!
Agreed!
I love peacock
@@kurk23peacock sucks 🐓
Peacock is pretty good
Don’t know about other country’s but peacock isn’t available in Aus
Raha has so much talent and chill personality.
I’ve been saying since F1 made the Drive to Survive series on Netflix, Supercross and Motocross could do something very similar and have it be very successful. I mean Redbull does the MotoSpy thing and it’s a kick ass series to watch along with the race season, and that’s only covering the Redbull guys. Imagine if the had filmers and producers for each factory team, and then a few of the bigger satellite teams/privateers?? Daniel Riccardo said the Netflix series helped save the sport of F1 and brought in a huge new viewer base. F1 was very niche prior to Netflix, just like SX and MX. I fully believe that something like that could help propel our sport further and garner that bigger audience, meaning more $$$, and more recognition for these pro riders
Shows like The Moto: Inside the Outdoors would be great.
I agree I myself a moto guy never watched a single race of f1 but after the Netflix series I watch f1 every weekend now I’m sure with all the drama that goes around sx and Mx they have enough to make a couple of seasons.
Lmao. F1 was never nishe like motocross or supercross🤣
Motocross and Off-Road motorsports are generally way behind asphalt/tarmac motorsports when it comes to development, budget and fan base. This is hill-billie sport that attracts that type of demographic. It's hard to grow anything when there is no incentive to grow. There is more drama and development in amateur karting than in Pro Motocross and Supercross. When you start working in the industry and you see how things are dealt with and what arrangements and contracts are signed and then you compare that to asphalt racing, it makes moto look like a bunch of middle school kids are running the series.
Lol.. F1 is huge outside the US.. Drive to Survive just opened up the US market to F1…
What killed Mx/Sx are UTV’s… that’s where all the money is going… family’s are going and
Buying a UTV for the family instead of dirt bikes and quads…
At least be able to sell their own merch at the races!
I agree with Raha I never raced Motocross but my grandson's do.people don't know how much work and training that goes into it especially the money side of it. it's time that the most dangerous sport on TV needs to be paid like it!!!
What Roczen did showing up in the NSX, with the Breitling, and the suit was exactly what dirt bike racing needs. Big name sponsors to the point where riders become household names for people who don't really follow racing.
Very good points raised in this discussion. Colby is a super humble dude it’s so awesome to see!
thank you Raha
Riders should be able to sell their own merch . Each state amateur champ series should be televised. That would fill the void in pro racing content . And bring huge views in fan participation. Same format as college football or basketball . I don’t really understand why but something is holding this sport back .
They can sell their own merch can’t they? I mean I know roczen and ciancirillo had there own website that they were selling there own merch. Some of them are getting into RUclips which is dope.
It's probably been raised before, but we need a 'Drive to Survive' for MX/SX.
Colby is the man!! So stoked to listen to the whole podcast.
Hey Gypsy man, you have seriously taken your interviewing to a whole new level. Honestly, you are hitting talking points that need to be discussed. You are seriously the best at what you are doing. Your Casey Stoner interview was amazing. I gained a massive respect for the guy - I'm a #46 fan. That interview was great.
Yes, the riders need to grow up and get organised.
I keep saying this the first one to do a setup where you can watch from each riders viewpoint would be a game changer and attract more sponsors
This dude shreds. I would love to see someone with his skills, transition into some hard enduro and see how well he does.
He would do absolutely horrific, you obviously don’t get the difference between hitting a jump tapped fifth wide and hard enduro lmao 🙈 a 5 year enduro rider is 1000 better then Colby could ever be nice try tho
He wouldn't do well
@@Hunterevans15 I only rode hard enduro, and a lot of the motor cross guys that decide to give things a shot end up being pretty darn impressive in my next of the woods.
@@Hunterevans15 lmaooo okay troll, that’s the silliest opinion I’ve ever seen. Skill on a bike is skill on a bike and can transfer to any discipline with practice. I’ve seen dudes who never ride woods but rail on the track do a woods race and place top 5 easy. But take a woods guy and a lot of them don’t translate to the track speed
@@coreyploof217 lmfao that is so hilarious and if you think about it that’s stupid… every single high level woods racer can fucking shred a track in there sleep blind folded with ease and not break a sweat.. get a moto hoe on a woods track put him behind the women and kids cause he’s frying his clutch and stuck on the first hill.. that being said I’m not even talking about hard enduro you have to be a trials world champ to even be decent and be able to climb a mountain like a goat on a motocrcycle literally and those guys are the only ones on the planet who can do even attempt that shit NOT woods riders and definitely not moto bros and long jump riders Hahahha you my friend are so utterly and entirely lost and ignorant
Raha the smartest business man in moto. Love it. He’s right. The only way to build prestige is to pay more
I completely agree. You guys definitely need to get paid more. Something needs to happen. You guys work so hard and getting injured all the time. Pay these guys for God sakes
About time you got the slayer of the slayground on here. Favourite Rider right here! FTW
Finally raha is here!
RAHA IS THE MAN!!
Full send Raha love watching this guy
This guy is super sharp and well spoken
this is the first interview of his I've watched, and I am shocked on how well spoken he is... I always saw him as a talented punk on a dirt bike. I've gained a lot of respect for him
Hell yeah guys, raising each other up instead of bringing each other down!
Raha comparison to a carnival was spot on. Never thought of it that way.
I love Colby such a rad dude. Those freestyle riders are harder then most racers
No, there not, do the manufacturers make bikes to RACE,,or do gay backflips,
Colby's probably right. Pay the riders more and you'll attract more fans asking "how do they make so much... oh wait, this is kinda cool... I'm hooked!"
You mention mcgreggor. I believe he is the highest paid ufc fighter but not even close to the winningest. People follow his wild and entertaining personality. He brings the drama. We don’t really have that in moto and it’s frown upon in the industry. I’d love to see more emotion, personality, and characters in the sport.
Pro Supercross & motocross event companies are making the sport out to be a joke on the largest media platforms we consume, expecting to get people to come stream, reaching a pitiful amount on stream, acting like they're winning and never address why no one is watching.. Like Colby said, they literally only posts crashes and ads, and the occasional racing post that has 0 context that would entice someone outside of the sport.. these riders need to think for themselves and stop showing up.
i was showing a girl i was dating some moto vids and telling her how it's the gnarliest sport and how fit the athletes have to be. she said that it looks easy and anyone can sit on a motorcycle and go fast. she was being totally serious. I brought her home and never called her again. (she wasn't that cute anyways).
Well said on both of your parts....great point. We gotta work together to grow the sport!!!
Raha’s the man
Twice a week would be dope af
There's a problem with SX/MX Rider pay
Same thing in MMA/UFC Fighter pay
They need a insurance policy for future retirement like what @jakepaul is saying about the ufc fighting action sports needs its own healthcare and mental awareness assistance when the careers are coming to an end
Ragas channel popped up the other day. Huge fan of the dude.
Full podcast Jas please!!
Link is in the description
@@GYPSYTALES Thanks mate.
You know what’s even worse, aussie pro riders down here in Australia having to have a second job just to cover bills. The top 1 percent making just as much as a convenience store worker if not a tad more. Ten grand for a final? Talk about ten grand for a complete championship down here. Provided the sport isn’t as big big it’s just as dangerous. I agree with raha 💯
I'm jealous of the kid that actually has a redline!
Same on the camera side of things. The problem is someone will do it cheaper 😂 and that’s why it’s not my job anymore
Yep inthe 80s there weren't many
Motorcycle Stuntmem or Motorcycle Freestylers and the ones that existed
sold out cheap to be " famous "
it screwed us all !
The promoters took advantage of this
and didn't care about anything except
making money ! Everyone that made money from Motorcycle Freestyle should
feel extremely lucky and grateful because
we didn't make much getting it started. .
I'm stoked at the progression of the riding
and the big paydays !
Who remembers when Supercrosss was available in Canada 🇨🇦 for free on regular TV.
Only an Acura in the US…. Honda for the rest of the world.
2:38 💯!!! The fact people hate on the Deegans! Like, really? I was a teen when MM started wrecking $#IT up and I loved Deegan... Sorry he hit it big on Merch and invented smart for his family... I call that a good man...
AMA has never had an idea how to promote and grow the sport.
One of the biggest problems with motocross salaries has been the fact there’s no collective union that protects the riders salary. Historically, 90% of the money being earned has always gone to the top 10 riders. When there’s this kind of structure in place it makes it real hard for the other 90% to compete. The top 10 have the money to hire personal trainers, nutritionist, etc.…
Yeah they should have 450 and 250 stock class. And factory classes
Dude fuck yeah! So glad you got Raha on, he’s the man!
complain about the money but no one's paying to watch 4 strokes
It was an Acura with the engine in the back
It’s called a acura nsx 100k plus
Everywhere else in the world it was badged and sold as the Honda NSX. It's only marketed as an Acura in North America.
Raha could have gone pro racing. I used to race 50s with him and he was fast as fuck even back then.
Interesting idea Raha. What about 2 or 3 races a week but not all the riders. Kinda like the 250s with east west but will all the riders.
That’s life bud, there is always someone earning more in life. Same applies to any job people do. If you don’t like the pay, change the job you do, pretty simple
Colby Raha your bang on you have point ... use send bike longer than they send a golf ball ... 100% back Colby Raha on that one
The issue is supercross doesn't have enough viewership compared to other sports like golf, which means less ad-revenue which means less money to the athletes.
If supercross wants to stay relevant, grow and make more money they need to attract the younger audience and go were the young audience is, which is on the internet.
Look at what XGames has done the last two years with livestreaming on the internet and doing mass social media exposure.
XGames internet viewership grew by +300% 2021 and amassed over 100million views across all social media platforms.
Supercross can learn a thing or two by trying to replicate what XGames is doing by livestreaming their races on their RUclips channel for free, not behind the paywalls of RUclips TV.
Not to mention they could attract far more young viewers by sponsoring popular content creators that already give Supercross the occasional free exposure like the Deegans or Buttery.
The dirt bike industry as a whole is growing and having a revival since the early 2000s I would say thanks to social media and RUclips so Supercross needs to really start utilizing this.
I think supercross has the viewership, if they didn't than USA, NBC and CNBC wouldn't be airing the races. I think it's how the riders contracts are set up with feld and the actual teams. That's where the fine line is. Just my opinion though. We'll never know why and what's going on..
@@jamesh1402 they averaged like 300k views last year which isn't great. I just think younger audiences aren't watching supercross on TV because younger audiences rarely watch TV. Just got to adapt or eventually you'll get left behind. Also XGames still had broadcasts on ESPN simultaneously so not to say you can't do both, but that depends on contracts.
100k bonus for first is the standard bonus from the factory privateers
Dale Jr made 25-30 million dollars a year while racing nascar and is worth a half a billion dollars. All that and he never had to pull a tear-off. His pit crew did it for him.
how are you gonna even attempt to make that comparison with a tear off lmfao what the fuck
@@JessC792 There are no failures in great attempts!
@@GIT2WORK747 Can't tell if this is a meme response but im proud if it is hahahaha
Quick economics lesson, golfers make more than moto because it’s more accessible. There are more golf courses than mx tracks. For reference, you can make more money playing frisbee golf professionally than mx & a bag of discs is $500 tops. No a days in America, people don’t have the extra scratch to buy a bike let alone race one.
It’s viewership actually. Whilst golfers are more likely to watch golf. It’s not necessarily true.
For example how many ufc fans are mma fighters.
A sport can captivate an audience that doesn’t actually do the sport.
@@oliverlennard fair enough, same with football. Some 80% of viewers have never played the game. However, i think the explanation for that is that those sports require no insight to understand. Run the ball down the field, hit the other guy, etc. try explaining suspension settings to a person who doesn’t ride & watch their eyes glaze over lol
I love colby Raha always speaking FACTS
If we lived in a fair world, sports should pay proportionally to the risk taken... not the world we live in...
The reason the sport doesn’t expand is these companies focus on racing. 99% of people are never goin for push it that hard so they don’t relate. Where are the adds for people just cruising on the weekends or families going camping and taking the bikes ? What they need to do is focus on families and young kids taking there bikes out on the weekend etc. I don’t care if a bike has 10 more hp this year because I’m not pushing it that hard to get wadded. Hospitals are to expensive and I like walking unassisted. Make it about a culture and affordable/accessible like it used to and it will grow like used to.
Simple, 2 classes, Pro and Privatier. If they are short on gates in Pro Class, top X amount of riders from Privatier class to fill out pro class.
Money is numbers and numbers never end, if you are chasing money for satisfaction you will never be happy. After financial freedom, money isnt shit. It just satisfies your materialistic philosophy.
F'ckn Legend, favorite interview to date!
So GOAT bro
thanks raha for just being real bro . slayer!!!!!!!!!
One of the ways that UFC and Boxing get's so much money is for example, UFC 276 is 75$. Not $5-10 a month to see 4 races a month.
McGregor makes that much because the number of eyes on that fight and it’s behind a paywall. Feld might be able to afford to pay more but not near the amount of a ufc fight. Mx/SX doesn’t have the audience ufc has unfortunately.
I personally don't have a single friend (who rides bikes) who is upset about pro riders in ama or Supercross getting too much money. They all deserve more especially the privateers. Theres typically only a handful of the very top riders making good money and its seriously messed up considering the type of sport and the amount of work that has to go into it, whether you're a privateer or a fully sponsored rider.
Net worth isn't an exact science but...🤔
Kevin Windham $4 million
Ken Roczen $4 million
Eli Tomac $5 million
Ryan Villopoto $5 million
Jeremy McGrath $5 million
Ryan Dungey $8 million
James Stewart $18 million
Chad Reed $20 million
Ricky Carmichael $25 million
Travis Pastrana $25 million
(There's no way some of these are right)
Ken n Eli definitely have more then that, Eli’s won like 4.4mill just from SX main wins
N that’s just the oem bonus idk what he gets from monster, astars etc
These are guesses, Id be willing to put kdub at 10m plus and eli 15m plus
@@llLeezy I don't think these are accurate (net worth not money earned) But you're leaving out taxes & money spent. If you make over $500,000 in one year that's the top tax bracket which is 40% then another 8 to 12% depending on the state you live in & (a handful of states with no income tax)
@@richardferrell4362 Agree...
I looked at a handful of different net worth sites & they're all within the borrow Park of each other . You would think RV would be much higher on the list I mean that's $4 million in championships alone (before taxes of course)
Love this dude big time!
Raha 100%🤙
One of these teams needs to make a jersey and pants kit that looks like a suit 🤔
Pisses me off that it’s easier to watch women’s basketball and hockey than it is to watch mx. I’m pretty sure a lot more people wanna watch mx over women’s sports
Action sports are so underpaid in general it’s kinda sad because they are the best and most entertaining to watch
Supercross/motocross is a niche market. Very few people who don't ride dirt bikes have any interest even if it's on tv. Dirt bike riders also tend to be of moderate income levels even compared to street bike riders. There's just not enough interest to generate the kind of sponsor and citizen money to make it worthwhile for any but the very top riders.
So how much do you make coby ..if we want everyone to be so open
The danger and the work ethic to be at the top in supercross/motocross is RIDICULOUS by anyones standards. They should be making crazy money, it’s a crazy life and you typically burn out by the time your 25-28 years old…
We see you Raha, We hear you! We feel all y'alls pain... if the world doesn't blow up and moto and action sports still exists... We'll be respecting the athletes. You're on our radar and Bigfoot said hi! ✌😎
This exact reason why I stopped watching racing.. years ago..
It's even crept it's way down to racing on a local level. Wanna do an outdoor or indorr race in Missouri? You're looking at 40 bucks per class you race. 20 for a transponder. 20 for gate fee per person. Then you get 5 laps practice and 2 5 lap motos. Bare minimum 80 bucks not counting bringing your girl, racing another class, getting food, or the cost of fuel to make a 3 to 6 hour round trip. Realistically your looking at 150 bucks to race a Saturday. Then what? Out of 200+ riders 6 pros make between 500 bucks and 1.5k. I love the sport, but getting gouged at every event sucks. Just remember that as a beginner, c, or b rider you are the backbone of this industry and Raha is right. All it takes is everyone deciding to sit out the first race or few of the season.
1st of all you can't just go to the golf course and start golfing as a kid you have to get a ride over to the course and it's very expensive to play around with golf. Now as a kid you can jump on your bmx bike and just go and practice. And if people knew how hard it is to golf then people would understand why their making millions of dollars being a pro golfer. Trying to hit a golf ball straight down the fairway 250 plus yards, then your 2nd shot with an iron trying to put it right on the pudding green and then your 3rd shot putting it right in the cup for a birdie believe me that's very difficult. I've been golfing for years and it's tough. I used to hate golf & couldn't understand why people would even play golf but when I got into it, it's actually amazing and riding dirt bikes is also amazing!
How many vertebrae have been broken on the golf course? And not from gettin drunk and crashing your weak ass golf cart.
What it will take to bring more money into the sport is more participation at the amateur level, it is possible too its just gonna take a plan and a collective effort!
Wym? Amateur moto is huge
The mx amateur scene literally has hundreds of thousands of kids, men, women that's never been the problem!!! Think about this tho bc this is reality, if you look at just the 250/450 A/B class riders (those are usually the top amateur classes), so let's say there is 200 riders across the country maybe 25 of them get a chance at pro supercross and of that 25 maybe 3 have a career successful enough to never worry about anything after retirement. And that's just in the USA it's an even bigger displacement world wide. Literally only 3-5% of amateur athletes ever make it! Most never make it past amateurs
@@bobbygilbert6955 It is the problem when you step out of a moto bubble and realize that compared to any other sport, we’re lacking at this level. It’s been extensively covered and isn’t a secret that we’ve even been on a decline from the number of participants we used to have. Lying to ourselves about it and convincing ourselves is fine will only kill the sport. Say football for example, easily has a ratio of more than likely 500:1 kids.
@@completelylucid7596 I don't think you can compare little league football to amateur mx i mean the cost of being in those two sports are way different...try comparing it to something on that level like say nascar or F1 something that actually takes $ to get into even on the amateur level!!! And with that said the problem isn't amateur mx it's the greedy selfish organizations who run the sport at the pro level bc that sets the tone for everything underneath it all the way down to beginning amateur level...it's the system that mx sports, feld entertainment and others have created and that's what needs changed, start from the top and it will fix the problems all the way down.... getting into cart racing as a kid then late models as a early teen is the system Nascar built and it worked but they started with the top and fixed the system from there. I don't disagree that there is less mx kids now than what years past have seen but that isn't all the sports fault either you have to account for the economy and all the other outside variables as well, that's why I say amateur mx isn't the problem it's bigger than that
@@bobbygilbert6955 If that’s the case then, tell me how manufacturers keep raising the prices even before inflation went to hell? Literally there incentivizing people to avoid this sport. It is a fair comparison because cost aside they shouldn’t be looked at any differently. What my point is other sports succeed where we fail, is opportunity for growth and availability. Why do we keep comparing our sport to f1 and nascar? I understand it’s logically the most sufficient category but as far as growth of this sport we will keep hitting a brick wall if we keep thinking that way. I used that as just an example of my point which again is availability. You wanna make a bike that costs 10 grand when they’re 16? I’m fine that’s a bit justifiable. But pewee bikes nowadays are ludicrous and the sad truth is as a whole the industry sucks ass at marketing and exposure. Hell whenever I talk about mx or anything related most people look at me like a deer in headlights because to become apart of this sport, you have to put in the effort. Other sports can attract casual fans because they’re strengths are our weakness. Our amateur level is falling apart because 1. The bikes are to expensive for what they are and that needs to change, 2. Marketing and exposure for young children and young parents is borderline non existent, and 3. Were stuck in the past plain and simple. I can’t stand when people compare this sport to f1 and nascar because it’s backwards thinking. Take lead and examples from other sports that have over 100x more exposure than we do rather than competitive racing that I would be willing to bet money on won’t be around longer than other major league sports do.
REAL TALK
Sooooo, how much money is Colby making now???
no joke supercross riders should get paid wayy more. shits not easy, safe, or cheap my any means
Forget the money, ride because you love it. Ride because it's awesome. Thinking about the money takes away from the purity of the sport. If you want to call it a sport. Don't make it commercial like every single thing humans do. It's a mindset
I believe riding for fun is separate than lining up on the gate with 20 of the baddest dudes and risking your life. Going out for fun with your buddy’s is one thing, do that for the love, but racers should be getting paid a lot more.
It’s not a mindset when you work so hard and earn little money. Moto is not easy to be good at it
I think the moto industry is tight enough that a lot of this money would end up getting fed back into it, if they would just pay them more.
Always gonna have Haters... It's all about $$$$ pay up..!
His points all add fuel to that jealousy
It’s the connotation in all action sports. We are all tough grungy dudes who are bros, we grew up hating the spoiled rich kids getting all the nice gear when they sucked, it’s a culture thing
The sound
Personally, I love seeing Moto guys making tons of money.. Most of us grew up poor as hell, with our parents sacrificing time and money(they don't have) just so we can ride..
Racing more than once a week could shorten the race schedule overall. More money and a shorter schedule....
Feld is def a huge problem but the industry isn't exactly looking out for the riders.
What the answer guys?
We’ve gotta have the poorest professional athletes in any sport. Our local pros all have to train kids to fund their racing.
What's up with then WMX...lets see what kind of deal the workout for the woman.
All things being equal... the pay, the fame, the respect whatever... all the top sports people would rather be SuperCross riders. Let that sink in, F1 dudes would do SX if they could and was as lucrative.
Raja and Axell deserve to be paid HANDSOMELY..... well ALL motorcycles racers!!
Late to the subject of why people "look down" or "get upset" when Riders get paid a lot , but I feel its because riding a dirt bike is so hecking fun and a lot of people (me included) saved up their whole life to get one and be able to ride one, and these guys are getting thrown money at them to ride when everyone is emptying out their pockets to ride twice every weekend.
The purse money is a total travesty BUT I don't want the scene to blowup anymore than it already has. Money ruins everything, and it ruined amateur Moto decades ago.
What is with everybody and their mother having a podcast these days?
The host talks to much
You still watch though 😂