Notes: I did intentionally skip the Collector SMG and Collector Sniper Rifle since they are exclusive to the Multiplayer of ME3, while the Collector Assault Rifle was usable in ME2's campaign. ME3's heavy weapons would've been universally ranked low because you cant (normally) reload them and they serve exactly 1 purpose most of the time. The heavy weapon ammunition for ME2 Heavy Weapons was changed in the save editor for ease of testing and recording. The weapons were not judged as if they had 7000+ ammo capacity.
On Legendary with Vanguard and not using Cheese? I did it on Legendary, Difficulty Mods, Vanguard, with just an Evicerator. It was HELL. Took like a week of an hour a day give or take (yes it was that hard) Everything will screw you over, cover is terrible, and god forbid you let an engineer put out a turret. Genuine trauma.
@@Samuel034I did it with Soldier class on Insanity. Mattock only. Concussive Shots mostly with fire/electric ammo. Had Liara with me to help out with the Guardians and EDI to help out with shields
@@TheMaineMeta same , except i use the harrier, and piercing armour ammo , i dont want to say it was easy but playing soldier class since the first one
The Carnifex is also great because of the imagery behind it. A high power, 6 shot pistol you gain in a lawless land from a man with a dark past trying to redeem himself. It’s the big iron of Mass Effect.
It also has a ton of symbolic meaning in ME3, because in most cutscenes that show Shepard wielding a pistol, they will be using a Predator, except in Priority: Tuchanka. At the end of that mission, Shepard is using a Carnifex, so if you choose to kill Morden to stop him from curing the Genophage, you do it with the gun that he gave you when you first met.
Oh and there’s it’s location in ME3. With Jacob. Hurray... Always fun to imagine it being there for two reasons. One, to remember all the times you had in ME2 to make the mission more enjoyable Or two, if you stabbed Jacob or Mordin in the back... well, the pistol is there. It knows what you did.
In the original ME3 the Executioner was a straight ticket to "Game Over" if you equipped it on Mars since you couldn't shoot 4 bullets in Dr. Eva in time.
The M-96 Mattock is my all-time favorite ME gun for sure, effective at all ranges it can carry any ME2 playthrough regardless of class and in ME3 you can easily get away with packing this beauty and nothing else, which is again excellent for all classes. (but mainly I just have a thing for semi auto) Great video as always!
The Cerberus Harrier needs a tier of it's own. It so far eclipses any other weapon in the trilogy that it's not even fair to compare it with anything else. Yeah it bleeds ammo like a surgery patient, but that's a necessary nerf to avoid harbinger surrendering instantly. Even in Multiplayer where everything does less damage and is generally worse, the Harrier is still godly. Arguably it's even better in MP because it's 1 weakness doesn't matter with ammo available anywhere. It's truly a monster of a weapon and incredibly satisfying to use.
I got through all my insanity playthroughs never having used the Harrier. It's not that I don't like it. It's just too expensive and I just used my credits upgrading the Black Widow or the Lancer. The Matlock you just pick up in the beginning and effective at every range. There's no reason to use the Harrier if you have a quick trigger finger.
I remember constantly trying to find the Harrier in MP so I could use it. Grinded so hard to get all those weapon packs and still never found it. Now I'm playing Legendary and don't do MP anymore.
@@johncisney15 I feel you. I went through a few months of playing ME3 MP basically all the time and I couldn't get the Harrier for so long. That was the first time I realized how much I hate loot boxes. I even spent a bad amount of time using the Geth Prime missile glitch to speedrun platinum with some friends for a while. It was absurdly rare. But damn was it worth it when I finally got it. Even the Lv 1 Harrier was basically better than any Lv 10 weapon.
The Disciple has an increased stagger capability so while it's not doing obscene damage like some other shotties, its perfect for power builds because that stagger lets you set up combos during cooldowns. It's light enough to also roll with the acolyte to burn shields and barriers.
@@nuclearsimian3281 The Piranha is half again as heavy. It's DPS is fantastic and I wouldn't argue that especially in the right hands. For casters the disciple excels at staggering enemies at longer ranges than the piranha could hope to do tho.
Ranking the venom shotgun as anything less than top is a travesty, especially when used on vanguard. If you get aim or at an enemy and then hit your biotic charge it sets you up for an absolutely devastating combo. The shotgun always staggers enemies so you don’t have to worry about insta kills, anything less than a banshee gets obliterated in one hit and it will take out a harvester in 3 hits if you can hit center mass with the main projectile on insanity difficulty.
agree 100%, they havent used venom shotgun long enough if they think its mid tier, you can shoot the ground next to shielded targets and still instantly kill them on the hardest difficulty. god tier for sure
The Cerberus Harrier is God Tier. To me it felt like a straight upgrade over the Mattock, but maybe that's cause I've used the Mattock in almost every playthrough and got a little bored of it lol
Put this gun on an Infiltrator or any Turian character (especially the Ghost Infiltrator) for their natural stability perks & even Atlas’s melt like butter. The bad part is that you have to live near an ammo box
@@GrimReaderas an Mtg player back in the day, it makes my eye twitch when people talk about "meta" in coop, (or even worse, sp, play), since "meta game" was originally about the fact that the best deck/build/gun/whatever was affected by what deck/build/gun/whatever you would be likely facing, which itself was affected by the meta! In coop/sp, there is no meta in that sense.
The Venom needs to be higher. It melts through everything with ridiculous ease. I did the Omega mission as early as possible with that thing, and I had to check several times if I was really playing on Insanity.
Same here. it takes 3 or 4 shots for that thing to kill either an atlas or a banshe and it bassically ignores 2 of the 3 forms of protection enemy’s can have as it seems to ignore Shields and barriers multiple times I had to check if I was on insanity and not on narrative the gun makes the game a cake walk
You know, it's interesting how in the original Mass Effect, the Avenger was pretty much an upgrade to the Lancer, and that role was effectively reversed in 3 with the Lancer's triumphant return, coupled with the Avenger's role as a starter weapon since 2.
It's stated in the Lancer's description in 3 that a master gunsmith tinkered with that specific rifle, so the average Lancer would still be inferior in universe
Justified; unless ya got an ammo power & somebody detonating the primer power, nobody in their right mind takes the Geth SMG for its dmg output. You’re just a poorer version of a turret thats not using a Typhoon
@@Sumblueguy41As an ammo power focused build, though, it is indispensable. I occasionally run it on my Infiltrator with a rotation of heavy snipers if I'm trying to keep my cooldowns low
I just discovered this channel and this is sooooo amazing...so much effort into the dialogue and so in-depth. The occasional cuts to show the gun sound was a great idea! Thanks for making this.
I remember trying to get the achievement where you beat the arena on the highest difficulty. I really struggled until I used N7 Typhoon. Gave it to 2 squadmates and we were done on the 1st attempt.
I hope the presidents talk about that bug in multiplayer where I think it was the N7 Destoryer could use the rocket with infinite amo. That was beyond fun and such cheese.
The M-97 Viper, M-90 Indra and N7 Piranha are all guns that get a lot of use from me whenever I play the trilogy, but my prized and most used gun has to be the M-7 Lancer. I much prefer the heat sink function on the Lancer in Mass Effect 3 over constantly having to worry about looking for ammo. Have no ammo left? No problem! Just let the gun cool down while you’re in cover. Personally, I prefer to carry around at least 2 or 3 guns per mission so I tend to go for the lighter guns/fully automatics and skip out on using guns like the Black Widow. I just don’t want any gun that heavy slowing down my recharge rate. I use Tech Armor way too much for that.
Before I got the Legendary Edition which came with the bonus weapons included, my standard was the Black Widow, and the Lancer, it is just an amazing gun, it's better than the Avenger in literally every way.
I absolutely agree with you. As a vanguard player I always use m-7 lancer, piranha, and scorpion. All I need are just 3 guns of the best weapons in the game.
The javelin just by itself has a limited see though walls ability scope(which I tend to replace) & limited armor piercing capability. Refined with a better scope & ap muzzle turns this sniper rifle into a deadly workhorse, especially if your team power is amor piercing ammo. The main drawback is a slight power up to fire once you pull the trigger. This delay takes getting used to as sometimes you have to lead a target. Its penetrative abilities are simply amazing, however. I have killed x3 cerberus goons in a single shot to the heads once when they lined up.
Weird take on the Phalanx from the presidential trio. It felt like ass to shoot in ME2, but in ME3 it's smooth as hell. Like a Predator that can actually keep up with mid-game threats. They are 100% right on the Lancer, though. I spent my whole ME3 playthrough lighting enemies on fire and then exploding them with Concussive Shot. The Lancer disrupted that rhythm because a lot of enemies died too fast for me to blow them up. By Priority: Earth, I was smoking Brutes almost as easily as I'd smoked Cannibals in the early game.
M-6 Carnifex is Sarens favorite sidearm its also weapon the killed Nihlus RIP. Speaking of Nihlus he leaves the Normandy equipped with a M23 Katana and arrives to confront Saren holding a Avenger. Just something I noticed for a long time.
Black Widow and Harrier are harmless peashooters compared to the Venom Shotgun. Especially if you're a vanguard. Charged shot+ charge/nova= everything dies
Collector SMG was a god tier weapon for power builds in ME3 multi. Slightly DPS than Hurricane and Blood Pack Punisher maybe, but it's so much more stable so it's ability to brrrrr into someone's head or a boss weakspot for a whole clip is amazing. It gets that 50% boost against armor, pretty unique for SMGs. Also infinite clips.
Downsize: its not viable to be a main dmg dealer even on a power user when its a mark1-3 so it needs the upgrades and mag size is still too small even with a Mag Extender. I know thats a duh statement but the RNG Factor for loot boxes in this game is ass beyond ass
@@Sumblueguy41 Too true. That loot system was brutal. Cheat engine exists though. Otherwise yea it could take hundreds of hours to get all the ultra rares to X.
Excellent as always. Was wondering about the Lancer, phalanx, and punisher. Was not disappointed! Also glad the presidents could all agree on the Lancer.
@@Hellhound23691 The Dire Wolf - or as I prefer it, Daishi, because when House Kurita names your mech "death" you know it's badass - would be at the top. The Marauder is trash tier by comparison. It's literally just a discount IS version of the Timber Wolf, with half the missiles, half the ballistics, and less armor, that somehow still weighs the same. And don't you even utter the name 'Atlas" aloud. Most overrated mech ever and I can't believe it gets all the box art these days. Give me a dual PPC Adder and I'll annihilate any Atlas, regardless of loadout or pilot, in any game under any rule set.
@@austinm5630 The Marauder is a musuem piece that can and will beat the honor out of any Clan mech that steps out of line. Dire Wolf has it beat in firepower, but tell me that duel PPCs and an AC aren’t enough to kill any mech in the setting. The Marauder remains a favorite of everyone, including Clanners, for a damned good reason. It fucking works and it will continue to smash bad guys, good guys, and orphanages wherever it goes. Though I do agree Skelemech is very overrated.
The Venom shotgun is God-tier in my book: Works at any range, you can perform sick trick shots that makes cover irrelevant, relatively lightweight and does a shit-ton of damage.
The Venom shotgun should've been God tier. Makes Insanity easy as easy diff. Most enemies, even shielded ones like the marauder, die to a single charged shot, because all the extra grenades instantly explode as well, if your charged shot hit the enemy directly. Also can use it to take out enemies behind cover, because you can just shoot at the wall behind them. It stuns enemies so even Brutes can be taken out with like 3 charged shots. The few small downsides are low spare ammo and projectile travel time. But since most Cerberus troops like to roll around, sometimes it's easier to just shoot at their feet. And the charge up time is faster than the reload on the Claymore so I think it clears that gun too.
The Geth Plasma shotty was my favorite in MP with the Geth Infiltrator who had boosts for Geth guns, even though the tracking was kinda bad if you weren't host.
How did you decide on which “voice” and general baseline opinions each president would represent in your videos? Which would you say trends closest to your own? I love that you get a consistent sense of character and motivation that Carries across all your videos. S+ tier writting and videos
Earlier on most of my actual opinions surfaced through Obama, which I'm sure a lot of people could tell. Lately it's been coming through all 3 of them. Essentially, Donald is a hard-line renegade player and Joe is a bleeding heart Paragon. Obama would represent the people who are "Paragade". Which is why he'll be "bipartisan" on topics like Organics vs Synthetics. Most of the time Joe and Donald oppose each other, while Obama mediates. You'll see Obama side with Joe since they're bonded as President and VP, but when Joe is being stupid due to his inexperience with Mass Effect, Obama sides with Donald since he's the more hardcore player.
Claymore is really god damn fun. Reload clitching makes it one of my favorites. Also with accuracy mod it's almost like a sniper with headshots because of its massive damage.
I'm right there with you. It's my go to in multiplayer. Sniping armored opponents in one shot from halfway across the map with the alliance infiltrator bot is one of my favorite things in the trilogy.
Something I noticed on my last play through, you might be able to slide this into your excellent writing somehow... Didn't take Garrus on ME1, Shepherd recognizing him in ME2 made sense, but Garrus cites the Noveria mission during the fan service Presidium buddy cop sniper scene
Think Tali talks about the Rachni creeping her out even if you don’t take her in any missions involving them. I always thought it’s implied the others are with you in the lore
I almost never comment on vids, but this effin deserves it!!! Great job, great analysis, love the humor... dude, what a dedication to create this. Of course depends on your style of playing, things may change and the combination with power, example the geth AR is rubbish, until you mix it with fire amo and maximizes your power, (damage and recharge) of concusive shot (soldier class) because then u can have many explosion burst as you want so for me is a God class only when combined with mods. But dude this vid is amazing
Going through all your videos. I don't know who started the AI presidents doing video games things, but no one else has this level of debate and depth. GOAT content
I'm so happy to find someone else that respects the Kishock. Ever since I started using it on the Legendary Edition, I completely fell in love. Definitely my favorite sniper, and top 5 guns across all weapon classes
If I had to rank all your videos, I think they wouldn't be S-tier or S+ tier. They would be God-tier, on par with our messiah Richard Leroy Jenkins himself. I will now stop praising you and these videos to take a lenghty silent prayer in the name of Jenkins.
I'm sad to see the Scimitar ranked so low. I have fond memories of playing vanguard and unleashing an absolute firestorm on my enemies, only to biotic charge into them and detonate all the fire primed enemies. I get why others may not like it, but it will always hold a special place in my heart.
Dedicated vanguard players and speed runners absolutely love the scimitar, considering it one of the best weapons period in 2 and 3. I like it a lot myself.
My only complaint about the Revenant is that it’s muzzle flash it’s so big you can’t track what you’re shooting at if you mag dump while aiming. It also should give an epilepsy warning if you’re playing in a dim-lit room. Dear goodness. I was like that video of a guy playing CS:GO and getting constantly flashbanged but at 50x speed on loop.
Valiant and Mattock, but especially the Mattock, the only gun you need for a Vanguard Insanity playthrough, just as effective as a shottie up close, but also possessing the ability to decimate foes at range when charge isn't available. Let's be honest, on Insanity powers rule and keeping a 200% cooldown reduction is godly.
An argument for the Blackstorm is that it locks opponents caught in the blast radius that have armor, shields, or barriers before slowly stripping the protection and when it explodes, most enemies are flung to the wayside as their protection is shredded or are melted, a perfect counter to the swarm of husks that keep blindly charging at you.
You forgot the Executioner heavy pistol, it should go in god tier. It's so fun and carried me quite a way on insanity, it's the ability to annihilate the face of just about any standard unit with a single headshot is so fun.
They should not underestimate the Geth Plasma SMG. It is essentially a super-fast sniper rifle; if it's loaded with ammo skill, it will destroy anyone.
Nah bro, the Mattock made it that high on ME2 reputation alone. It got power crept in ME3 just as hard as the Locust, and gets outclassed by other guns quickly. It's still good, but it doesn't deserve to be above top tier in ME3.
Wow, the Piranha shotgun is getting borderline disrespected in Mid Tier! Vanguard class can topple any situation with Piranha (close-to-mid range) and Mattock (mid-to-far range), combined with barrier-replenishing Charge & Reave... like an actual whirling dervish of death and bullets
The Crusader was basically my shotgun/sniper rifle in ME3. Loved getting those Cerberus shield guys threw the eye-slit. The M-11 was my pistol of choice, but used the Carnifex long before I played the Citadel DLC. The M-13 Raptor was basically my assault rifle with sniping capability when my ammo is low on the other weapons. Plus its light.
Back in multiplayer days Harrier and Rigar evaporated pretty much anything on the map... Beyond God Tier in my opinion, weapon balancing is a bit different in multiplayer though
It’s honestly crazy to see how much your channel has grown these past few months, you deserve it, keep up the great work!! I people probably ask all the time about dragon age but when do you think you’ll play it? Anyways great vid regardless
The growth is very crazy, every time I think it's going to taper off it doesn't, I'm glad everyone shows up and enjoys these every time. Baldur's Gate 3 has got me wanting to (finally) make a return to Dragon Age Origin, I never played DA2 or Inquisition, so anything on the full series would be quite far off. Something specific on Origin is doable.
They did M29 Incisor dirty. I mean it's both a sniper and assault rifle in one, and takes 2 to 3 shots to kill a target without shields, it deserves more credit. And the ammo capacity it has makes the M29 Incisor OP in my opinion.
The M76 Revenant is AMAZING in Multiplayer when you play as the N7 Destroyer with the Destroyer mode and Missiles active. You become a wirlwind of violence and firepower, the only thing you gotta do is take cover and maneuvre so you don't lose your shields to Collector fuckery or Geth Hunters
The Valiant is God Tier, it's only slightly less powerful than the Black Widow, but it completely outclasses it in every other category, Weight, Rate Of Fire, Reload Speed, Recoil, it is easily God Tier.
With the m7 valiant and the burst sniper, both of them extend the range of your biotic charge on vanguard adding an extra buff on that class. Its so much fun teleporting around the map and they was goated to use on multiplayer back in the day.
Notes:
I did intentionally skip the Collector SMG and Collector Sniper Rifle since they are exclusive to the Multiplayer of ME3, while the Collector Assault Rifle was usable in ME2's campaign.
ME3's heavy weapons would've been universally ranked low because you cant (normally) reload them and they serve exactly 1 purpose most of the time.
The heavy weapon ammunition for ME2 Heavy Weapons was changed in the save editor for ease of testing and recording. The weapons were not judged as if they had 7000+ ammo capacity.
In telltale walking dead season 2 what do you think clementine thanking when gii say cool hat thoughts 👍👍
Ironically something that was never seen when they were still alive.
I don't know if you reed this, but keep making these videos, they are truly remarkable and super fun
There are brilliant man!
@@grinvich.76 I see all, even if I neglect to respond, thank you!
I absolutely love how half of these tier lists spawn into existence because Biden can't complete the Grissom Academy mission.
On Legendary with Vanguard and not using Cheese?
I did it on Legendary, Difficulty Mods, Vanguard, with just an Evicerator. It was HELL. Took like a week of an hour a day give or take (yes it was that hard)
Everything will screw you over, cover is terrible, and god forbid you let an engineer put out a turret. Genuine trauma.
@@Samuel034suffer more it turns me on
@@Samuel034I did it with Soldier class on Insanity. Mattock only. Concussive Shots mostly with fire/electric ammo. Had Liara with me to help out with the Guardians and EDI to help out with shields
Ud think with all the knowledge Joe has with this game and it's classes and guns, he'd complete it by now lol
@@TheMaineMeta same , except i use the harrier, and piercing armour ammo , i dont want to say it was easy but playing soldier class since the first one
The only correct answer for S-Tier is the M-96 Mattock.
Also the N7 Typhoon for infinite BRRRRR.
Thank you for the credits once again Commander!
@@primeradiancy Mass Effect content is always worth supporting. Keep at it.
What about the Cerberus harrier
Seconded. Mattock. Yes. Mattock plus engineer skills is deadly.
I always hated the mattock
Well, someone had to do it:
2:07 Black Widow
3:25 M55 Argus
3:46 M25 Hornet
4:12 M300 Claymore
5:10 M6 Carnifex
5:53 M29 Incisor
6:24 M8 Avenger
7:20 N7 Hurricane
8:06 M7 Crusader
9:04 N7 Eagle
9:30 M90 Indra
9:56 Fayston
10:24 M4 Locust
11:15 Disciple
11:27 M77 Paladin
11:46 Javalin
12:48 Collector Assault Rifle
13:07 M4 Shuriken
13:45 M22 Eviscerator
14:08 M5 Phalanx
14:42 M92 Mantis
15:06 M37 Falcon
15:40 M9 Tempest
16:11 Geth Plasma Shotgun
16:55 M3 Predator
17:13 M13 Raptor
17:38 Geth Pulse Rifle
18:04 Blood Pack Punisher
18:31 Grail Spike Thrower
19:23 Scorpion
19:51 N7 Valiant
20:09 M96 Mattock
20:49 Geth Plasma SMG
21:43 M23 Katana
22:12 M358 Talon
22:35 M97 Viper
22:59 Chakram Launcher
23:30 AT-12 Raider
23:49 ARC Pistol
24:16 M98 Widow
25:00 M76 Revanant
25:27 M27 Scimitar
25:44 M11 Suppressor
26:27 Krysae Sniper Rifle
27:02 M99 Saber
27:30 M11 Wraith
28:08 Acolyte
28:33 Kishock Harpoon Gun
29:06 N7 Valkyrie
29:18 Regar Carbine
29:44 Executioner Pistol
30:13 Vidicator
30:24 N7 Piranah
30:40 Particle Rifle
31:15 Venom Shotgun
31:30 Cerberus Harrier
31:58 AdusAnti-Synthetic Rifle
32:14 M7 Lancer
33:03 Striker Assault Rifle
33:39 N7 Typhoon
34:40 Ml-77 Missile Launcher
35:12 M100 Grenade Lancher
35:40 M451 Firestorm
36:12 M490 Blackstorm
36:50 M622 Avalanche
37:15 M920 Cain
38:15 ARC Projector
38:40 Collector Particle Beam
I'm commander Shephard and this is my favorite comment in the Citadel
You absolute hero
kinda surprised nobody made a comment about the casa locust being the gun that killed 2 presidents.
You mad lad
Had to be you. Someone else might have gotten it wrong.
The Carnifex is also great because of the imagery behind it. A high power, 6 shot pistol you gain in a lawless land from a man with a dark past trying to redeem himself. It’s the big iron of Mass Effect.
It also has a ton of symbolic meaning in ME3, because in most cutscenes that show Shepard wielding a pistol, they will be using a Predator, except in Priority: Tuchanka. At the end of that mission, Shepard is using a Carnifex, so if you choose to kill Morden to stop him from curing the Genophage, you do it with the gun that he gave you when you first met.
@@CivilWarMan Right! Forgot about that!
Oh and there’s it’s location in ME3. With Jacob. Hurray...
Always fun to imagine it being there for two reasons. One, to remember all the times you had in ME2 to make the mission more enjoyable
Or two, if you stabbed Jacob or Mordin in the back... well, the pistol is there. It knows what you did.
He’s not a man he’s a salarian… had to be him… you would’ve gotten it wrong 🥴 sorry. Big mordin fan
Mattock gang rise up 👊🤛
Woop woop!
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Even as a biotic, I gotta have my Mattock. Add the light metal modification, and it carries me through the entire game by itself.
shame 🫵
Mattock all day
These never fail to brighten even a good day. It's not simply the voices but what they say. Perfect. Just perfect.
These videos have done more to make me want to replay the Mass Effect series than any kind of advertising ever could
This is one of the better if not the best weapons list just for the info and demonstrations alone, I even learned a few things watching this.
There is nothing better than seeing the presidents in the morning in debates about my favorite saga
It's so fun listening to these guys bicker on my drive to work each day.
I need the S tier weapons to get me through the spectre level enemies on insanity. Thank you Prime. Love the vids keep it up
I love the running gag that Biden can’t clear Grissom Academy 😂
34:15 "This is the gun that's a major component in helping Garrus ascend to godhood."
I love that reference.
In the original ME3 the Executioner was a straight ticket to "Game Over" if you equipped it on Mars since you couldn't shoot 4 bullets in Dr. Eva in time.
My brother got stuck because he was using the scorpion.
I learned that the hard way on my first playthrough. And had to restart the entire mission because I forgot to make multiple saves
It’s the same story with the Acolyte.
Wait how? I thought you couldn't have any pistol other than the Predator in that mission.
@@ALLMINDmercenarysupportsystem if you ng+ me3 you can use the weapons table and have access to yr previous runs weapons
Idk what I've done to deserve the best written presidents channel to not only be about mass effect, but to also consistently upload. I'm so blessed
The M-96 Mattock is my all-time favorite ME gun for sure, effective at all ranges it can carry any ME2 playthrough regardless of class and in ME3 you can easily get away with packing this beauty and nothing else, which is again excellent for all classes.
(but mainly I just have a thing for semi auto)
Great video as always!
The Cerberus Harrier based on the Mattock is a great gun too
@@MonoKrohm_2020Automatic Mattock for the win.
Falcon grenade rifle. Ultimate bounce headshot.
@@clintbeastwood5116 can’t beat it man, powerful and accurate fire every time
Yep, the paid DLC weapon advantage.
38:05 is why Big B flubbed his shots, the Cain remembers the disrespect.
The Cerberus Harrier needs a tier of it's own. It so far eclipses any other weapon in the trilogy that it's not even fair to compare it with anything else. Yeah it bleeds ammo like a surgery patient, but that's a necessary nerf to avoid harbinger surrendering instantly. Even in Multiplayer where everything does less damage and is generally worse, the Harrier is still godly. Arguably it's even better in MP because it's 1 weakness doesn't matter with ammo available anywhere. It's truly a monster of a weapon and incredibly satisfying to use.
If it weren’t for the higher weight and the limited capacity compared to the Lancer, I’d use the Harrier 24/7. Insanely strong.
Falcon grenade rifle.
I got through all my insanity playthroughs never having used the Harrier.
It's not that I don't like it. It's just too expensive and I just used my credits upgrading the Black Widow or the Lancer.
The Matlock you just pick up in the beginning and effective at every range. There's no reason to use the Harrier if you have a quick trigger finger.
I remember constantly trying to find the Harrier in MP so I could use it. Grinded so hard to get all those weapon packs and still never found it. Now I'm playing Legendary and don't do MP anymore.
@@johncisney15 I feel you. I went through a few months of playing ME3 MP basically all the time and I couldn't get the Harrier for so long. That was the first time I realized how much I hate loot boxes. I even spent a bad amount of time using the Geth Prime missile glitch to speedrun platinum with some friends for a while. It was absurdly rare. But damn was it worth it when I finally got it. Even the Lv 1 Harrier was basically better than any Lv 10 weapon.
I just wanted to thank you for all the great moments.
The Disciple has an increased stagger capability so while it's not doing obscene damage like some other shotties, its perfect for power builds because that stagger lets you set up combos during cooldowns. It's light enough to also roll with the acolyte to burn shields and barriers.
It is definitely and underrated shotgun. It also sends anything killed by it flying backwards as if you hit them with max level throw.
So what, N7 Piranha is just as light, does 1.8x the damage, better against armor, and more reserve ammo.
@@nuclearsimian3281 The Piranha is half again as heavy. It's DPS is fantastic and I wouldn't argue that especially in the right hands. For casters the disciple excels at staggering enemies at longer ranges than the piranha could hope to do tho.
Ranking the venom shotgun as anything less than top is a travesty, especially when used on vanguard. If you get aim or at an enemy and then hit your biotic charge it sets you up for an absolutely devastating combo. The shotgun always staggers enemies so you don’t have to worry about insta kills, anything less than a banshee gets obliterated in one hit and it will take out a harvester in 3 hits if you can hit center mass with the main projectile on insanity difficulty.
Best gun indeed
@@BSoDexeI think you mean best combo.
agree 100%, they havent used venom shotgun long enough if they think its mid tier, you can shoot the ground next to shielded targets and still instantly kill them on the hardest difficulty. god tier for sure
Exactly. The Venom makes Insanity a cake walk.
@@Cheepchipsable no its the best gun in the game.
The Cerberus Harrier is God Tier. To me it felt like a straight upgrade over the Mattock, but maybe that's cause I've used the Mattock in almost every playthrough and got a little bored of it lol
Put this gun on an Infiltrator or any Turian character (especially the Ghost Infiltrator) for their natural stability perks & even Atlas’s melt like butter. The bad part is that you have to live near an ammo box
exactly the harrier is what the mattock wished it was
@@Sumblueguy41 exactly. Or have a buddy play as an N7 Demolisher so they can be a mobile ammo box
Yeah I kinda play each one the exact same way but playing META gets boring so I try and theme the weapons to characters
@@GrimReaderas an Mtg player back in the day, it makes my eye twitch when people talk about "meta" in coop, (or even worse, sp, play), since "meta game" was originally about the fact that the best deck/build/gun/whatever was affected by what deck/build/gun/whatever you would be likely facing, which itself was affected by the meta! In coop/sp, there is no meta in that sense.
The Venom needs to be higher. It melts through everything with ridiculous ease. I did the Omega mission as early as possible with that thing, and I had to check several times if I was really playing on Insanity.
Same here. it takes 3 or 4 shots for that thing to kill either an atlas or a banshe and it bassically ignores 2 of the 3 forms of protection enemy’s can have as it seems to ignore Shields and barriers multiple times I had to check if I was on insanity and not on narrative the gun makes the game a cake walk
Playing on insanity now too and yeah the venom is insane
Thank you for including sound effects! Mass Effect 3 really outdid itself in that departement.
The Cain comes in handy during the Arrival Dlc towards the end where everyone is swarming you.
You know, it's interesting how in the original Mass Effect, the Avenger was pretty much an upgrade to the Lancer, and that role was effectively reversed in 3 with the Lancer's triumphant return, coupled with the Avenger's role as a starter weapon since 2.
It's stated in the Lancer's description in 3 that a master gunsmith tinkered with that specific rifle, so the average Lancer would still be inferior in universe
Done the geth SMG dirty. It has like 0 weight if you put ultra light materials on and it is insanely accurate.
Let's not forget that it's also a fire hose. Spits 100 rounds in seconds lol
Justified; unless ya got an ammo power & somebody detonating the primer power, nobody in their right mind takes the Geth SMG for its dmg output. You’re just a poorer version of a turret thats not using a Typhoon
@@Sumblueguy41As an ammo power focused build, though, it is indispensable. I occasionally run it on my Infiltrator with a rotation of heavy snipers if I'm trying to keep my cooldowns low
They weren't included mods in the rankings
It's good tier imo. The charge-up time is annoying.
I just discovered this channel and this is sooooo amazing...so much effort into the dialogue and so in-depth. The occasional cuts to show the gun sound was a great idea!
Thanks for making this.
I remember trying to get the achievement where you beat the arena on the highest difficulty. I really struggled until I used N7 Typhoon. Gave it to 2 squadmates and we were done on the 1st attempt.
Bro the Typhoon is insane in the hands of squadmates.
@@JAYDOG1337Aif they feeling good today(seriously these mfs always shooting at walls and shit)
I think Garrus and James were up to it
I hope the presidents talk about that bug in multiplayer where I think it was the N7 Destoryer could use the rocket with infinite amo. That was beyond fun and such cheese.
the rocket glitch was patched out of the pc version, and any class could do it.
The M-97 Viper, M-90 Indra and N7 Piranha are all guns that get a lot of use from me whenever I play the trilogy, but my prized and most used gun has to be the M-7 Lancer.
I much prefer the heat sink function on the Lancer in Mass Effect 3 over constantly having to worry about looking for ammo. Have no ammo left? No problem! Just let the gun cool down while you’re in cover.
Personally, I prefer to carry around at least 2 or 3 guns per mission so I tend to go for the lighter guns/fully automatics and skip out on using guns like the Black Widow. I just don’t want any gun that heavy slowing down my recharge rate. I use Tech Armor way too much for that.
Before I got the Legendary Edition which came with the bonus weapons included, my standard was the Black Widow, and the Lancer, it is just an amazing gun, it's better than the Avenger in literally every way.
Just maxed out the Lancer and it's solid!
I absolutely agree with you. As a vanguard player I always use m-7 lancer, piranha, and scorpion. All I need are just 3 guns of the best weapons in the game.
The javelin just by itself has a limited see though walls ability scope(which I tend to replace) & limited armor piercing capability. Refined with a better scope & ap muzzle turns this sniper rifle into a deadly workhorse, especially if your team power is amor piercing ammo. The main drawback is a slight power up to fire once you pull the trigger. This delay takes getting used to as sometimes you have to lead a target. Its penetrative abilities are simply amazing, however. I have killed x3 cerberus goons in a single shot to the heads once when they lined up.
Weird take on the Phalanx from the presidential trio. It felt like ass to shoot in ME2, but in ME3 it's smooth as hell. Like a Predator that can actually keep up with mid-game threats.
They are 100% right on the Lancer, though. I spent my whole ME3 playthrough lighting enemies on fire and then exploding them with Concussive Shot. The Lancer disrupted that rhythm because a lot of enemies died too fast for me to blow them up. By Priority: Earth, I was smoking Brutes almost as easily as I'd smoked Cannibals in the early game.
Venom is god tier. Removes half the challenge of an insanity play through with charged shots.
M-6 Carnifex is Sarens favorite sidearm its also weapon the killed Nihlus RIP. Speaking of Nihlus he leaves the Normandy equipped with a M23 Katana and arrives to confront Saren holding a Avenger. Just something I noticed for a long time.
Weapons in cutscenes are very inconsistent across the whole trilogy, so Nihlus isn't surprising in this regard.
Black Widow and Harrier are harmless peashooters compared to the Venom Shotgun. Especially if you're a vanguard.
Charged shot+ charge/nova= everything dies
Collector SMG was a god tier weapon for power builds in ME3 multi. Slightly DPS than Hurricane and Blood Pack Punisher maybe, but it's so much more stable so it's ability to brrrrr into someone's head or a boss weakspot for a whole clip is amazing. It gets that 50% boost against armor, pretty unique for SMGs. Also infinite clips.
Downsize: its not viable to be a main dmg dealer even on a power user when its a mark1-3 so it needs the upgrades and mag size is still too small even with a Mag Extender. I know thats a duh statement but the RNG Factor for loot boxes in this game is ass beyond ass
@@Sumblueguy41 Too true. That loot system was brutal. Cheat engine exists though. Otherwise yea it could take hundreds of hours to get all the ultra rares to X.
1:15 that aim for the head comment hits a little differently now
These videos is Healing ASMR for my soul. Bless you
Excellent as always. Was wondering about the Lancer, phalanx, and punisher. Was not disappointed!
Also glad the presidents could all agree on the Lancer.
These are my favorite versions of the AI presidents. Would love to hear them yap about other Videogame series especially Cyberpunk
I'm sure it's already been said, but I'd love to see a multiplayer class list for ME3
Particle Rifle aka The Kamehameha gun
Someone should make an AI tier list for mechs of the Mechwarrior franchise.
God yes
Oh fuck yes! Please!
Why so the Marauder can be at the top?
@@Hellhound23691 The Dire Wolf - or as I prefer it, Daishi, because when House Kurita names your mech "death" you know it's badass - would be at the top. The Marauder is trash tier by comparison. It's literally just a discount IS version of the Timber Wolf, with half the missiles, half the ballistics, and less armor, that somehow still weighs the same.
And don't you even utter the name 'Atlas" aloud. Most overrated mech ever and I can't believe it gets all the box art these days. Give me a dual PPC Adder and I'll annihilate any Atlas, regardless of loadout or pilot, in any game under any rule set.
@@austinm5630 The Marauder is a musuem piece that can and will beat the honor out of any Clan mech that steps out of line. Dire Wolf has it beat in firepower, but tell me that duel PPCs and an AC aren’t enough to kill any mech in the setting.
The Marauder remains a favorite of everyone, including Clanners, for a damned good reason. It fucking works and it will continue to smash bad guys, good guys, and orphanages wherever it goes.
Though I do agree Skelemech is very overrated.
Donald always has w takes, the single fact that Joe doesn't like the black widow means I'm voting Trump
The Venom shotgun is God-tier in my book: Works at any range, you can perform sick trick shots that makes cover irrelevant, relatively lightweight and does a shit-ton of damage.
The venom shotgun is THE most underrated guns. It absolutely wrecks tits at any range.
The Venom shotgun should've been God tier. Makes Insanity easy as easy diff. Most enemies, even shielded ones like the marauder, die to a single charged shot, because all the extra grenades instantly explode as well, if your charged shot hit the enemy directly. Also can use it to take out enemies behind cover, because you can just shoot at the wall behind them. It stuns enemies so even Brutes can be taken out with like 3 charged shots. The few small downsides are low spare ammo and projectile travel time. But since most Cerberus troops like to roll around, sometimes it's easier to just shoot at their feet. And the charge up time is faster than the reload on the Claymore so I think it clears that gun too.
The Geth Plasma shotty was my favorite in MP with the Geth Infiltrator who had boosts for Geth guns, even though the tracking was kinda bad if you weren't host.
How did you decide on which “voice” and general baseline opinions each president would represent in your videos? Which would you say trends closest to your own? I love that you get a consistent sense of character and motivation that Carries across all your videos. S+ tier writting and videos
Earlier on most of my actual opinions surfaced through Obama, which I'm sure a lot of people could tell. Lately it's been coming through all 3 of them.
Essentially, Donald is a hard-line renegade player and Joe is a bleeding heart Paragon. Obama would represent the people who are "Paragade". Which is why he'll be "bipartisan" on topics like Organics vs Synthetics.
Most of the time Joe and Donald oppose each other, while Obama mediates. You'll see Obama side with Joe since they're bonded as President and VP, but when Joe is being stupid due to his inexperience with Mass Effect, Obama sides with Donald since he's the more hardcore player.
Claymore is really god damn fun. Reload clitching makes it one of my favorites. Also with accuracy mod it's almost like a sniper with headshots because of its massive damage.
I'm right there with you. It's my go to in multiplayer. Sniping armored opponents in one shot from halfway across the map with the alliance infiltrator bot is one of my favorite things in the trilogy.
Something I noticed on my last play through, you might be able to slide this into your excellent writing somehow...
Didn't take Garrus on ME1, Shepherd recognizing him in ME2 made sense, but Garrus cites the Noveria mission during the fan service Presidium buddy cop sniper scene
Think Tali talks about the Rachni creeping her out even if you don’t take her in any missions involving them. I always thought it’s implied the others are with you in the lore
@@klawschafer7425 You're right, I'd forgotten about that one
I almost never comment on vids, but this effin deserves it!!! Great job, great analysis, love the humor... dude, what a dedication to create this. Of course depends on your style of playing, things may change and the combination with power, example the geth AR is rubbish, until you mix it with fire amo and maximizes your power, (damage and recharge) of concusive shot (soldier class) because then u can have many explosion burst as you want so for me is a God class only when combined with mods. But dude this vid is amazing
Going through all your videos. I don't know who started the AI presidents doing video games things, but no one else has this level of debate and depth. GOAT content
I'm so happy to find someone else that respects the Kishock. Ever since I started using it on the Legendary Edition, I completely fell in love. Definitely my favorite sniper, and top 5 guns across all weapon classes
"If you come at me your better aim for the head." Oh this aged gracefully. 😂
Bonus powers in the trilogy tier list coming 😂?
Cannot believe I was a day late for this work of art.
If I had to rank all your videos, I think they wouldn't be S-tier or S+ tier.
They would be God-tier, on par with our messiah Richard Leroy Jenkins himself.
I will now stop praising you and these videos to take a lenghty silent prayer in the name of Jenkins.
This needs millions of views. Been watching mass effect ranks since for 4 weeks now. This is amazing.
I'm sad to see the Scimitar ranked so low. I have fond memories of playing vanguard and unleashing an absolute firestorm on my enemies, only to biotic charge into them and detonate all the fire primed enemies. I get why others may not like it, but it will always hold a special place in my heart.
Dedicated vanguard players and speed runners absolutely love the scimitar, considering it one of the best weapons period in 2 and 3. I like it a lot myself.
It's my fave gun in all the shooters I've played 🥹
i love how the jokes are so unbiased and well done, this is the only trump i enjoy listening to lol
I fucking love this channel
My only complaint about the Revenant is that it’s muzzle flash it’s so big you can’t track what you’re shooting at if you mag dump while aiming.
It also should give an epilepsy warning if you’re playing in a dim-lit room. Dear goodness. I was like that video of a guy playing CS:GO and getting constantly flashbanged but at 50x speed on loop.
Valiant and Mattock, but especially the Mattock, the only gun you need for a Vanguard Insanity playthrough, just as effective as a shottie up close, but also possessing the ability to decimate foes at range when charge isn't available. Let's be honest, on Insanity powers rule and keeping a 200% cooldown reduction is godly.
An argument for the Blackstorm is that it locks opponents caught in the blast radius that have armor, shields, or barriers before slowly stripping the protection and when it explodes, most enemies are flung to the wayside as their protection is shredded or are melted, a perfect counter to the swarm of husks that keep blindly charging at you.
32:52 “just because the gun can’t say no doesn’t mean it consents” I positively DIED at this hahaha
You forgot the Executioner heavy pistol, it should go in god tier.
It's so fun and carried me quite a way on insanity, it's the ability to annihilate the face of just about any standard unit with a single headshot is so fun.
Excellent. Well-written and entertaining.
this has to be one of the greatest mass effect related videos i have ever seen im fuckin dying over here
The Reegar Carbine may be mid but it is a death ray in the multiplayer with the right set up. The N7 Typhoon is for all the Rambo larpers and badasses
They should not underestimate the Geth Plasma SMG. It is essentially a super-fast sniper rifle; if it's loaded with ammo skill, it will destroy anyone.
Nah bro, the Mattock made it that high on ME2 reputation alone. It got power crept in ME3 just as hard as the Locust, and gets outclassed by other guns quickly. It's still good, but it doesn't deserve to be above top tier in ME3.
The locust really got fucked in me3
Wow, the Piranha shotgun is getting borderline disrespected in Mid Tier!
Vanguard class can topple any situation with Piranha (close-to-mid range) and Mattock (mid-to-far range), combined with barrier-replenishing Charge & Reave... like an actual whirling dervish of death and bullets
When is "Mass Effect Characters Rank US Presidents from 2008-Present" coming out? The world needs answers!
Never. Because cringe
Aw i love how you referenced "Garrus ascends to godhood" when talking about the typhoon, that's immediately what I thought when this gun came up
You need to do one where each president talks about each class and why they like or hate each class
The Crusader was basically my shotgun/sniper rifle in ME3. Loved getting those Cerberus shield guys threw the eye-slit. The M-11 was my pistol of choice, but used the Carnifex long before I played the Citadel DLC. The M-13 Raptor was basically my assault rifle with sniping capability when my ammo is low on the other weapons. Plus its light.
Back in multiplayer days Harrier and Rigar evaporated pretty much anything on the map... Beyond God Tier in my opinion, weapon balancing is a bit different in multiplayer though
It’s honestly crazy to see how much your channel has grown these past few months, you deserve it, keep up the great work!! I people probably ask all the time about dragon age but when do you think you’ll play it? Anyways great vid regardless
The growth is very crazy, every time I think it's going to taper off it doesn't, I'm glad everyone shows up and enjoys these every time.
Baldur's Gate 3 has got me wanting to (finally) make a return to Dragon Age Origin, I never played DA2 or Inquisition, so anything on the full series would be quite far off. Something specific on Origin is doable.
They did M29 Incisor dirty. I mean it's both a sniper and assault rifle in one, and takes 2 to 3 shots to kill a target without shields, it deserves more credit. And the ammo capacity it has makes the M29 Incisor OP in my opinion.
I love these videos so much! The presidents all agreeing on the Typhoon is right, its god tier.
Hear me out
The Revenant at close range as a clearing weapon utterly slaps. No shotgun can compare with its volume of fire. It’s a bullet hose
3:17
“Yeah joe… you like your back being blown out”
This is probably the most entertaining tier list I've ever heard. With actual legit debate, this was great.
The M76 Revenant is AMAZING in Multiplayer when you play as the N7 Destroyer with the Destroyer mode and Missiles active. You become a wirlwind of violence and firepower, the only thing you gotta do is take cover and maneuvre so you don't lose your shields to Collector fuckery or Geth Hunters
Avenger gets the job done, if the job is missing half your shots and running out of ammo.
This guy made 40 minutes of content with this?
I’m not even mad, I’m impressed
There's something sublime about this series having a running gag about being stuck on the Grissom Academy shootout.
I have the biggest smile across my face seeing this!
The Black Widow sniper rifle and the practical rifle are my go to weapons. They're practically the GOAT whenever I use them
I remember the Phalanx was deemed so good in ME3 multiplayer that they nerfed it.
It just dawned on me most of the shotguns were named after swords.
woah
Now I adore the Mattock but there's no world in which the Harrier isn't the GOAT Cerberus rifle
I've grown totally addicted to this. More. Give me more.
The Valiant is God Tier, it's only slightly less powerful than the Black Widow, but it completely outclasses it in every other category, Weight, Rate Of Fire, Reload Speed, Recoil, it is easily God Tier.
The only issues I take with this is the Harrier and Valiant should’ve been God Tier otherwise these were well thought out and beautifully written
The matlock, carnifex, and viper were my go to weapons. Love those guns.
With the m7 valiant and the burst sniper, both of them extend the range of your biotic charge on vanguard adding an extra buff on that class. Its so much fun teleporting around the map and they was goated to use on multiplayer back in the day.
The thing I find funniest about this video is that it's the ONLY one on this platform that actually went through and rated the weapons in this game.