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Great video. Thoughts on the design here would include homemade gears on the outside and a theaded rod to the router base so that as you turn the workpiece, you could intiate travel (at your chosen ratio) of the router. Also, how about keying a vertical slot on the ends that allow adjustment of the centers. Finally, I would make a matching jig for my power sander that would allow me to remove the router and set in the sander to sand the workpiece without removing it. TO THE SHOP I GO!!
Fantastic! What a great way to turn legs. Have you thought of putting a cog on the handle shaft that could then run a traversing thread that would push the router along as well?
Genius! I have been struggling with wanting to buy a lathe but can't seem to get over how expensive they are. This is the perfect Jig! My only thought i feel worth sharing is for the vaccuum. Maybe you can double the depth of the box, make it 10in instead of 5" then make a V shape going along the length of the box underneath the wood being cut so it phunnels the saw dust. Then perhaps another set of sloping sides running perpindicular to the first channel then the vaccuum sucks the trimmings from the center of the bottom where all the wood chips are being phunneled. Idk how how much the vacuum picks up by itself but I thought perhaps a little extra preparation might help! Not trying to change your design. I am definately going to replicate, just might mess around with a vaccuum chamber. Thanks for the tips!
You could chuck the rod into an electric drill or add a small motor. Also you could raise the spindle and sand while it's spinning after initial routing and a finish could be applied in a similar manner. Love the simplicity and effectiveness of this design there could be many different variants for more applications.
This is a great looking jig, I'm definitely going to make one but I do have a question/suggestion about the design which is: Could you add a steel cord on a pulley that moves the router along with the turning motion you are already applying? Not that it looks too difficult to move both.
Hobbnobbs I was thinking something similar. Like have a piece of all-thread run alongside the box and have a nut screwed onto it that's attached to the router component. Then using gears or a belt you could have the all-thread spin as you crank the wood. If geared correctly it would spin the wood you're working on and slowly drag the router across the box at the same time!
How about a modification that makes the long sides removable so that you can create profile templates that will give perfectly identical spindle legs. Using a plunge router, you could attach some arms on each side of your router that would travel along the profile of the template.
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If you do a pineapple on table legs you'll sale the table just for the legs :) I do this on walking canes @ $20 bucks a piece , now I going to do a dinning table with such on the legs .
Idea: save handle turning by fitting a slow turning electric motor at the end…..Then you don’t need a router, just fit a plane blade into a jig that will slide along like the router does. Ooooh wait a minute…I have just created a lathe in a box😂 The best bit of the box design is capturing the chippings which conventional lathes throw all over the place.
The simplicity is fantastic! Although, add a couple of wooden gears, a 36" length of threaded rod, and a lead screw in the router plate, and you'll automate the advance of the router, as well as only have one crank to turn. (A few calculations, and this will also allow for spiral cuts.)
If you joined the holes you drilled, then added two floating pieces of ply that just fit inside the box and that had just one hole to hold the piece being worked and one hole for a bolt that went into the slots, you could make the jig infinitely adjustable AND you could do tapers. Once you have the ends positioned where you want them, bolts going through them (a single hole on each floating end) into the slots could be tightened by turning knobs.
Meanwhile.. im over here with a 3/4 roundover, eyeballing running down 2x2x96 with 1 pass and 4 rotations. .. no they most definitely did not look stellar.
Use your cordless drill to spin that blank. Cut a couple of difference size circles from wood as 'gearing', use a small belt, piece of rope or similar to drive as similar to bike chain. Its things like this project that I am always looking for old bikes thrown in the trash. Gears and chains.
I just finished building this box and it worked flawlessly. Thanks George. Rather than the epoxied nut and washer, I used a 3/8 T-nut. Drill a shallow 7/16" hole on the end of the stock and the T-nut tangs will bite into the wood and hold it securely. I also made another set of "bulkheads to place further in board so I could extend the threaded rods allowing for shorter pieces of stock. These ensure the rods stay centered and don't sag. My threaded rods are 1 foot long.
Question: Why not construct a " drill" jig for the end of the rod with the crank handle, then use a variable speed drill to turn the cylinder freeing up both hands to not only turn down the cylinder but also make it easier to use a palm sander freeing up both hands to finish the cylinder? Just a thought.
Excellent video, loved the originality & also the way you glued three planks to make the raw blank for the table leg. The three holes concept took the cake. Look forward to learning lots more from your videos. Thanks.
One thing you forgot to mention was that, since the router's "sled" has some play, you need to keep it pressed against the side. If you don't, that will change the depth of cut (i.e., when it's centered, the cut is deeper than when it's pressed against one side).
I was thinking about the same thing. Just like they say: "Great minds think alike". just kidding :) I was also thinking about a way to add some thread to the router box to make it move as you turn the handle.
an electric drill fitted to the end where the handle is would make for a bit better job you would only have to concentrate on the router and probably get a much more even cut in less time just a thought
I like the idea but why wouldn't you just get a variable speed motor with a small and large gear to increase torque? You could get one pretty cheap and it would free your hands from doing the work, yield better results and you could sand on it like a lathe.
I reviewed about 20 videos and this was the best and simplest. However, I have no idea how to make the Router Setup such as attaching the Router to a piece of wood. Maybe it is just me, but I am clueless!
Much mahalos, now I know how I'm going to turn a large stock for making cups. A stock larger than what my lathe could hold but my chop saw can take down
I am in the process of fine-tuning my own version of this "router/lathe". The main problem is gluing the washer onto the nut at a 90 degree angle! If it is not exactly at right angles, the work piece wobbles. I think having the 2nd nut tight against the glued nut will help align it better. Also it is hard to see exactly where the nuts and washers go - a brief still short in profile would be handy!
Just the video I was looking for. After several attempts neither the epoxy or glue gun glue worked for me, too weak. I ended up widening the drive hole to fit a nut, just deep enough for the nut and left the rest of the hole at 3/8. I then tightened two nuts sandwiching the fender washer. I had drilled three 3/16 holes in the fender washer, I used these holes to screw 3 each #8 x 1/2" sheet metal screws to the end of the stock. Seat the nut and 1" of threaded rod into the hole, screw down, go.
This is very interesting. I was contemplating on getting a lathe, but this seems more economical. Hell I even have an old drill I can use to power the crank so I can just focus on the router.
I made a similar jig to place on my lathe. worked great but you need to have a lathe that can turn turn approximately 1 turn a second. Makes sanding a lot easier as you can do it right on the lathe.
This is a great idea. I live in an apartment and don't have room for large pieces of equipment such as a lathe. I can make this and store it under the bed. Thanks.
Great idea! It's a simple version of the Craftsman Router Lathe without the spiral cut option. I'm not sure your method would work with long small size dowels such as 1/4" to 1 " sizes as seen in my RUclips video. But for making larger size dowels this is a very good idea! Thanks for sharing.
Maybe it would be possible to make an advanced version where the router sled is driven by a spindle or tooth rack mechanism hooked up to the handle, that way you wouldn't have to "pat your head" ;-)
Something to think about would be to add a small motor to the side of the box which could drive the spindle with a belt. This way you could concentrate on moving the router smoothly along the top of the box. I bet the finish would come out a lot less rough.
I was thinking the same thing. Maybe even a corded drill could be used to turn the blank with a suitable adapter in the chuck. That wouldn't even need a belt - just have a bolt going into one end of the blank as he does now, but have the other end of that be a rod that fits in a drill chuck. Set a low speed and lock the trigger on.
Thanks for this tip. I am just discovering the possibilities of my router, so now I know that a router lathe is one of the things i can do. Videos like this are the one and only reason to visit RUclips, it is the place to pick up ideas.
I am thinking about making this but I am a little worried cause I need mine to be a little over 6 ft long. I essentially have to make a wooden dowel that is 1inch in diameter and 6ft long. I am just worried that a piece that size will not stay on or Ill get a bow in the middle or something.
There is a smaller jig that uses a router still but is better for smaller diameters. It is similar to the threading box. You would need a perfect profile to begin with for the starting guide but you could start with a 1 by 1 Square rod. I'll try to find a link
+Nate Doggg Typically you would knock off the square corners on a spindle blank by setting up either your band saw or table saw for a 45 degree cut, and removing enough of the corner material so that you have eight approximately even sides remaining, and a lot less material to remove with your router
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I love that jig, Thanks, Bob
Great video. Thoughts on the design here would include homemade gears on the outside and a theaded rod to the router base so that as you turn the workpiece, you could intiate travel (at your chosen ratio) of the router. Also, how about keying a vertical slot on the ends that allow adjustment of the centers. Finally, I would make a matching jig for my power sander that would allow me to remove the router and set in the sander to sand the workpiece without removing it.
TO THE SHOP I GO!!
Fantastic! What a great way to turn legs.
Have you thought of putting a cog on the handle shaft that could then run a traversing thread that would push the router along as well?
i'm very impressed and feel smarter...thank you
it seems that the design would be something you could do with a lathe too.building the box to hold the router...great project sir.
Very cleverly done - thanks for sharing.
Very good, I like that. I think I would drill the 3/8 hole undersize and thread the rod into it.
Genius! I have been struggling with wanting to buy a lathe but can't seem to get over how expensive they are. This is the perfect Jig! My only thought i feel worth sharing is for the vaccuum. Maybe you can double the depth of the box, make it 10in instead of 5" then make a V shape going along the length of the box underneath the wood being cut so it phunnels the saw dust. Then perhaps another set of sloping sides running perpindicular to the first channel then the vaccuum sucks the trimmings from the center of the bottom where all the wood chips are being phunneled. Idk how how much the vacuum picks up by itself but I thought perhaps a little extra preparation might help! Not trying to change your design. I am definately going to replicate, just might mess around with a vaccuum chamber. Thanks for the tips!
You could chuck the rod into an electric drill or add a small motor. Also you could raise the spindle and sand while it's spinning after initial routing and a finish could be applied in a similar manner. Love the simplicity and effectiveness of this design there could be many different variants for more applications.
awsom . i am going to have to make one and try it .
This is a great looking jig, I'm definitely going to make one but I do have a question/suggestion about the design which is: Could you add a steel cord on a pulley that moves the router along with the turning motion you are already applying? Not that it looks too difficult to move both.
Hobbnobbs I was thinking something similar. Like have a piece of all-thread run alongside the box and have a nut screwed onto it that's attached to the router component. Then using gears or a belt you could have the all-thread spin as you crank the wood. If geared correctly it would spin the wood you're working on and slowly drag the router across the box at the same time!
How about a modification that makes the long sides removable so that you can create profile templates that will give perfectly identical spindle legs. Using a plunge router, you could attach some arms on each side of your router that would travel along the profile of the template.
CJProSound Good idea!
Great idea!
very cool,thanks for video
wow, great idea!
Any chance, that you can create concave or convex shapes with a router?
what kind of router bit are you using here
same way as u make a pin roller ?
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Nice :)
A revertible speed drill will turn it at a Evan pace.
Me being the lazy person I am, I would use a drill or something to spin the leg. Haha
Why not just buy a Sears wood crafter and make all kinds of cuts and spirals :)
I have one and it works good. Need to dig it out
If you do a pineapple on table legs you'll sale the table just for the legs :) I do this on walking canes @ $20 bucks a piece , now I going to do a dinning table with such on the legs .
where is the sound
много говоришь.
12:46 Or learn some damn high school math and figure out your angles so you dont waste a bunch of wood.
Idea: save handle turning by fitting a slow turning electric motor at the end…..Then you don’t need a router, just fit a plane blade into a jig that will slide along like the router does. Ooooh wait a minute…I have just created a lathe in a box😂 The best bit of the box design is capturing the chippings which conventional lathes throw all over the place.
The simplicity is fantastic! Although, add a couple of wooden gears, a 36" length of threaded rod, and a lead screw in the router plate, and you'll automate the advance of the router, as well as only have one crank to turn. (A few calculations, and this will also allow for spiral cuts.)
Good Idea but I would use a Drill instead of hand cranking.
I would need to do this 6' long. Seems like it would work
Brilliant!, just what I need to create a tapered pillar.
Many thanks.
TheScottishGilder
Glad it was helpful!
If you joined the holes you drilled, then added two floating pieces of ply that just fit inside the box and that had just one hole to hold the piece being worked and one hole for a bolt that went into the slots, you could make the jig infinitely adjustable AND you could do tapers.
Once you have the ends positioned where you want them, bolts going through them (a single hole on each floating end) into the slots could be tightened by turning knobs.
Meanwhile.. im over here with a 3/4 roundover, eyeballing running down 2x2x96 with 1 pass and 4 rotations. .. no they most definitely did not look stellar.
Use your cordless drill to spin that blank.
Cut a couple of difference size circles from wood as 'gearing', use a small belt, piece of rope or similar to drive as similar to bike chain.
Its things like this project that I am always looking for old bikes thrown in the trash. Gears and chains.
I just finished building this box and it worked flawlessly. Thanks George. Rather than the epoxied nut and washer, I used a 3/8 T-nut. Drill a shallow 7/16" hole on the end of the stock and the T-nut tangs will bite into the wood and hold it securely. I also made another set of "bulkheads to place further in board so I could extend the threaded rods allowing for shorter pieces of stock. These ensure the rods stay centered and don't sag. My threaded rods are 1 foot long.
Question: Why not construct a " drill" jig for the end of the rod with the crank handle, then use a variable speed drill to turn the cylinder freeing up both hands to not only turn down the cylinder but also make it easier to use a palm sander freeing up both hands to finish the cylinder? Just a thought.
Excellent video, loved the originality & also the way you glued three planks to make the raw blank for the table leg. The three holes concept took the cake. Look forward to learning lots more from your videos. Thanks.
It will save you lots of money on woodwork project if you have the in depth woodwork plan !!!!! >>>>
I'm really sure you can build it yourself. I did this 2 weeks ago thanks to the Woodglut plans.
I like this solution as i dont have a lathe. Gostei dessa solução já que não tenho um torno
One thing you forgot to mention was that, since the router's "sled" has some play, you need to keep it pressed against the side. If you don't, that will change the depth of cut (i.e., when it's centered, the cut is deeper than when it's pressed against one side).
You will find a lot of interesting information and tips on how to do it in Stodoys instructions and projects.
Justin,
Any straight bit will do it, but a larger diameter, ¾” or so, works best.
I use my Miter Lathe Combo, you can see that on my channel. It is much more convenient and faster.
very accurate plans for something like that I found on Stodoys.
I was thinking about the same thing. Just like they say: "Great minds think alike". just kidding :)
I was also thinking about a way to add some thread to the router box to make it move as you turn the handle.
Holy H thats Coool !!! id add a motor to spin the wood tho ...but WOW!!!
an electric drill fitted to the end where the handle is would make for a bit better job you would only have to concentrate on the router and probably get a much more even cut in less time just a thought
Thanks for the great comments. Happy Woodworking :)
I like the idea but why wouldn't you just get a variable speed motor with a small and large gear to increase torque? You could get one pretty cheap and it would free your hands from doing the work, yield better results and you could sand on it like a lathe.
Matthew Prince Not a bad idea, if you have the means & the know-how then go for it! Take his idea and improve on it.
I reviewed about 20 videos and this was the best and simplest. However, I have no idea how to make the Router Setup such as attaching the Router to a piece of wood. Maybe it is just me, but I am clueless!
Thank you
Could you maybe use a drill to turn the wooden piece? Or it would be too dangerous?
I was thinking to use an electric screwdriver to turn the wood.
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Thanks!
Put a crank on at end lol
great gig
Much mahalos, now I know how I'm going to turn a large stock for making cups. A stock larger than what my lathe could hold but my chop saw can take down
I am in the process of fine-tuning my own version of this "router/lathe". The main problem is gluing the washer onto the nut at a 90 degree angle! If it is not exactly at right angles, the work piece wobbles. I think having the 2nd nut tight against the glued nut will help align it better. Also it is hard to see exactly where the nuts and washers go - a brief still short in profile would be handy!
Instead to turned with a handle I just put a drill and that saves much more time
couldn't a r/o sander fit in that box .it would cut way down on elbo grease
Just the video I was looking for. After several attempts neither the epoxy or glue gun glue worked for me, too weak. I ended up widening the drive hole to fit a nut, just deep enough for the nut and left the rest of the hole at 3/8. I then tightened two nuts sandwiching the fender washer. I had drilled three 3/16 holes in the fender washer, I used these holes to screw 3 each #8 x 1/2" sheet metal screws to the end of the stock. Seat the nut and 1" of threaded rod into the hole, screw down, go.
This is very interesting. I was contemplating on getting a lathe, but this seems more economical. Hell I even have an old drill I can use to power the crank so I can just focus on the router.
Thanks Matt!
Just thought I could build a mount for a cordless drill have it turning might end up with a cleaner finish. happy days.
Check out the Cylinder Mill (I think that's what it's called). It uses your table saw.
Yup, take the handle off and put it on a variable speed drill. Would be so much easier.
I made a similar jig to place on my lathe. worked great but you need to have a lathe that can turn turn approximately 1 turn a second. Makes sanding a lot easier as you can do it right on the lathe.
This is a great idea. I live in an apartment and don't have room for large pieces of equipment such as a lathe. I can make this and store it under the bed. Thanks.
Good job explaining your jig. A battery drill might be a good addition for the final pass so the wood turned evenly
great jig! looking forward to building this one... thanks for sharing.cheers TR providence, ri
cool... very cool... i would add a power drill with adjustable speed to turn the wood..this way i concentrate on the router... and its faster
Great idea! It's a simple version of the Craftsman Router Lathe without the spiral cut option.
I'm not sure your method would work with long small size dowels such as
1/4" to 1 " sizes as seen in my RUclips video. But for making larger size dowels this is a very good idea!
Thanks for sharing.
Awesome invention, just the thing I was looking for, thanks.
Hi. think this is a terrific idea. Will be making one up myself.
This is great, i usually have a hand drill to rotate the cylinder its a great way and faster to get this job done!
Thanks. ive learned more from your videos than anyone elses. thank you so much.
Maybe it would be possible to make an advanced version where the router sled is driven by a spindle or tooth rack mechanism hooked up to the handle, that way you wouldn't have to "pat your head" ;-)
How do you keep the nuts on the lag end from unscrewing as you turn the threaded rod?
a recess with a nut knocked in would save the glueing, if you haven't already thought of using a drill ;)
Something to think about would be to add a small motor to the side of the box which could drive the spindle with a belt. This way you could concentrate on moving the router smoothly along the top of the box. I bet the finish would come out a lot less rough.
I was thinking the same thing. Maybe even a corded drill could be used to turn the blank with a suitable adapter in the chuck. That wouldn't even need a belt - just have a bolt going into one end of the blank as he does now, but have the other end of that be a rod that fits in a drill chuck. Set a low speed and lock the trigger on.
a small child tethered to a chain might be suitable also
Or he could have bought a Sears wood crafter and can do more than just octagon .
Thanks for this tip.
I am just discovering the possibilities of my router, so now I know that a router lathe is one of the things i can do.
Videos like this are the one and only reason to visit RUclips, it is the place to pick up ideas.
Try changing the profile of the rails that the router slides on. Creating a concave or convex profile would then be transferred to the turning blank.
very innovative design. could you use a low power corded power drill to turn the spindle while you move the router?
reversed lathe :D
would'nt you use a ball bearing or sleeve on the crank end? to save the jig nice vid subed
you could attach a hand drill to the drive end and rubber band the trigger . make it a lot more simple
you could make the box a different shape at the top 2 edges so the router followed any curves you put onto it
Perfect! exactly what I need. Thank you so much.
I just saw a video called "The Cylinder Mill". It makes cylinders like this but much easier and faster IMO.
I am thinking about making this but I am a little worried cause I need mine to be a little over 6 ft long. I essentially have to make a wooden dowel that is 1inch in diameter and 6ft long. I am just worried that a piece that size will not stay on or Ill get a bow in the middle or something.
There is a smaller jig that uses a router still but is better for smaller diameters. It is similar to the threading box. You would need a perfect profile to begin with for the starting guide but you could start with a 1 by 1 Square rod. I'll try to find a link
Very simple and very effective, brilliant !!!
Yes.
This is the answer
I've had a few ideas around your cylinder box if you'd like me to share them?
Safer than a lathe!
is there some way to attach a motor or a treadle system to this?
You said you cut the corners off of your walnut cylinder. How? Thanks
+Nate Doggg Typically you would knock off the square corners on a spindle blank by setting up either your band saw or table saw for a 45 degree cut, and removing enough of the corner material so that you have eight approximately even sides remaining, and a lot less material to remove with your router
This saved my day. Thank you WGOA !!!
The best thing I've found on the net was plans from Stodoys.
I'm with love with these plans!!! :DDD
Great video! Liked and subscribed!
Very cool -- a great new use for the router!
What if you have a short piece of wood about 24 inches long?
build a shorter box! Same principal just shorter