Don't think anyone else comes close. Everything else is so dry but he gives it some personality. I'm certain I know everything about attributes and I wouldn't be arsed watching a video just in case I got a small bit of extra info usually. But he makes it funny so I just watch them whenever I'm bored
You never stop learning about this game! I've been playing since CM 99-00 so 20 years! I recently took things right back to basics after a 13 season save with Forest Green & watched a lot of your videos. Sure most things weren't new but alongside that is a separate thought process or way of looking at things that changes the perspective. I'd forgotten about some things, like placing a job advert! Also some things were new so...yeah, in summary...great videos!
I'm loving your videos mate! Quality content every time. The game is far from simple, but you sir, are helping a lot! :) Most of the things you are explaining have been explored by most of the people playing the game, but the explanation is super valuable. Everybody has doubts here and there and when someone like you confirms the use/meaning/purpose of something - lesson learnt, case closed. Keep it up!
love ur vids Z! the info, the break downs, and most of all what sets this apart from all the other FM vids, the deadpan sense of humor, what an awesome and unique mix good sir! keep the content coming pls and ty. -Liquor
Bravery is one of the most important attributes in the game for anyone who you need to put in a tackle. I cannot tell you how many players I've transferred out that were worldies but had 5 bravery. If you have 20 tackle, 20 positionings, and 20 work rate, but you have 5 bravery, that means that you'll always be in a position to put in a challenge, but you almost never will. I'd rather have a player with 5 tackle, 5 positionings, and 5 anticipation with 20 bravery. He'll pick up a crap ton of fouls, but I'll always trust that he'll at least try. He'll block shots, he'll jump with bigger guys. He'll dive for the breakaway tackle. Especially at lower leagues, the try is always more important than anything else. This is why I always prioritize work rate bravery and determination in mentals. Because these are the guys that when my RB two foots a guy and we're 2 goals down and we need a draw to win the title are going to put in a shift.
20 bravery increases the chance of getting injured tho And when that happens it will usually drop by 3 - 4 bravery points. But it's without a doubt, a very important atribute. Maybe around 13 - 14 bravery its the sweet spot, enought to challenge the ball, but not high enough to be reckless.
@@anon8510 if a player is able to have 20 bravery, and somehow manages to avoid getting injured, it's amazing. Better than 13 - 14. But the chance of an injury because he decided to challenge the wrong play its way too high. Personally, i prefer having a more carefull player (12 / 15), who is healthy more often, than a brave player who can injure himself easily.
Determination and work rate, yeah I agree. Bravery? Too low is bad, but there's no reason go to for 20. Aggression is really important because even with 20 bravery your RB won't do shit with 1 aggression.
@@maciejkornatowski3026 Aggression is a bad stat, it dictates the ferocity of the challenge, and increases the likelihood that they will argue with officials, you want 10 aggression with strong concentration, but you never want high aggression, especially if they have a high controversy rate, or the dreaded "has a competitive streak" in their report. This means in the big games, he's getting himself sent off 100%.
i thought aggression, workrate and determination are the attributes that define if he is going to try it. bravery comes only into play if the situation is dangerous.
@@ZealandonYT of course at this time, I barely knew anything about soccer. I literally had just started getting into the sport(FM15 was my first) I literally didn't realize looking at attributes was a better way until well into FM16. I thought the star ratings were objective ratings lol
So i'm late to this video and the games. I'm starting at a small club with a poor coaching staff. Are player attributes accurate or are they based on my coaching staff evaluating them like the star ratings?
The video I've been waiting for! Thanks for the content man. One question (that may get answered in the tactics video): when youre managing lower league teams, do you get players that are as high as possible in their primary attributes but everything else is pretty weak, or do you go for the highest average all around? Sometimes it seems picking a player with high primary attributes are never reccomended to be signed after I scout
In my experience the lower the league, the more focus you should put on physicals (especially Speed = Acceleration & Pace). Basically Physicals > Mentals > Technicals. Look at it like this: If your body's not made for it, all your mentals and techniques don't matter. You're the worlds best dribbler? I don't care if your strength & balance is low - Hulk smash puny god. You're the worlds best dribbler? Well, that's nice for you - but I don't care if you only get it done when you're alone on the pitch (= low mentals). Technique's all about the quality and outcome of your actions - which doesn't really matter if you just can't to your action.
@@ZealandonYT in my experience physical attributes are like cash in hand, accepted *everywhere* , no matter what league you are in, what the game situation is, or your tactical setup.
@@anon8510 yeah, another thing I didn't mention is that SI has even said that, since physical attributes aren't affected by a player's inconsistency trait, physically strong players can be more relied on to deliver consistent performances.
I was, correctly or incorrectly, under the assumption that the dark blue "highlighted" attributes were the most important then the grey ones after that but you mentioned the green numbers are?
@@ZealandonYT and it rounds up or down for the profile page, so 15.4 dribbling would say 15, but 15.6 dribbling would say *16* and get that sexy, sexy light green coloring we all like to see.
@@anon8510 no, and that was my point. The game used to show the number to one decimal point in the development "spaghetti" graph lines, but on the player profile page, it has always just been a whole number. A player with 15.4 dribbling is 4% better (on a 1-20 scale) than a player with 14.6 dribbling, but both will just say 15! Each point on the 1-20 scale equals a 5% improvement, or deterioration, so it's a bigger deal than some might think!
Aren't the "blue" highlighted attributes primary and the "grey/green" ones secondary? (makes sense on your wing back example, i.e. passing and crossing more important than marking)... don't tell me I've been doing it wrong this whole time lol
@@ZealandonYT This one confuses me too in your video. As I understand it, important attributes for the role are highlighted in grey and usefull atributes are highlighted in blue. Also the numbers for the attributes are colorcoded: grey (1-5), white (6-10), yellow (11-15), green (16+). Of course, players 'choose' roles that they are good at, so the important attributes of their preferred roles usually have green values. Saying thet the important attributes are highlighted in green however, suggests that the UI chooses the color of the numbers, based on the role. I don't think that's true.
i have several potential 5 star regen goalkeepers, don't know if i should buy them due to 15+ in tendency to punch, now for the 23/24 years i've owned a cm/fm game i've never bought them due to punching the ball instead of taking them but my god they are so good in everything else and the scouts, who are good, have those said goalkeepers at 5 star potential, anyone have success with 15+ tendency to punch goalkeepers?
yeah, in real life I hate goalkeepers constangtly punching the ball away when they can save it. One of the things I least like to see in a player, ( turning back towards your opposition goal and passing it backwards when you are already in your own half is another one). Not sure how it translates to the game though
@@mattylamb9194 playing with back turned to CB's is something target men does? holding up the ball to get the team further up etc. I'm sure other roles like false9/complete forwards does that as well.Think u can train that trait to whoever has the right attributes as well. I think a poacher will do much less of that.
Depends some players are very versatile and play more positions and some not that good its called a hidden stat (like the consistency) u cant see hidden stats if you dont use editor
@@MrOguuz - in the nineties, it wasn;t that unusual to see players that could play at either centre-back or centre-forward, (Chris Sutton, Dion Dublin, Paul warhurst being three examples). You rarely see that represented in FM though
@@ZealandonYT Well since it is divided by 5 when displayed it is for all intents and purposes 10.2, 10.4 etc but the actual coded value goes up to 99 so from a code perspective there are much more increments than what you actually see ingame. You can check that with cheat-engine btw if you wonder how i know that. Edit: Also it's the same thing for staff attribute (mostly)
@@ZealandonYT my thoughts on this debate is that Ronaldo has proven his greatness in the most physical league (premiership) and dominated. I just don't think messis flip flaps would work in the prem, and he would be bullied to the point we're he would have to rely on a more technical game instead of skill..
@@dodgydpad1798 don't limit Ronaldo to just one league! That's not fair. It is extremely important to the Ronaldo case the fact that he has been extremely dominant in multiple leagues for multiple teams. Everyone saw what he did in the Premier League with Man U, his stint with Real Madrid might be the single greatest stint any goalscorer has *ever* had at a club, and now in Italy he has tied the all-time record for games scored in a row in that league. Add to that the fact that he helped his nation win their first major international trophy ever, and that he's the highest scoring European player ever in internationals and almost certain to become the top international goal scorer of all time. Now I'm not saying that Messi couldn't be great in another league for another team, but we are certain C Ronaldo can because he has proven it.
you are becoming, very quickly, my favorite FM RUclipsr. Keep up the great work.
Don't think anyone else comes close. Everything else is so dry but he gives it some personality. I'm certain I know everything about attributes and I wouldn't be arsed watching a video just in case I got a small bit of extra info usually. But he makes it funny so I just watch them whenever I'm bored
You never stop learning about this game! I've been playing since CM 99-00 so 20 years!
I recently took things right back to basics after a 13 season save with Forest Green & watched a lot of your videos. Sure most things weren't new but alongside that is a separate thought process or way of looking at things that changes the perspective. I'd forgotten about some things, like placing a job advert! Also some things were new so...yeah, in summary...great videos!
I remember the good days from when I was learning to play FM 2008 and choosing the players with better names
HAHAHAHAHAHAH xD
I fondly remember my star striker, JOSH WALKER.
Great video, definitely one of the most entertaining FM youtubers. Keep it up!
I'm loving your videos mate!
Quality content every time. The game is far from simple, but you sir, are helping a lot! :) Most of the things you are explaining have been explored by most of the people playing the game, but the explanation is super valuable. Everybody has doubts here and there and when someone like you confirms the use/meaning/purpose of something - lesson learnt, case closed.
Keep it up!
You're really entertaining and is now my go to place for all things FM2020. Please keep it up.
love ur vids Z! the info, the break downs, and most of all what sets this apart from all the other FM vids, the deadpan sense of humor, what an awesome and unique mix good sir! keep the content coming pls and ty. -Liquor
Bravery is one of the most important attributes in the game for anyone who you need to put in a tackle. I cannot tell you how many players I've transferred out that were worldies but had 5 bravery. If you have 20 tackle, 20 positionings, and 20 work rate, but you have 5 bravery, that means that you'll always be in a position to put in a challenge, but you almost never will. I'd rather have a player with 5 tackle, 5 positionings, and 5 anticipation with 20 bravery. He'll pick up a crap ton of fouls, but I'll always trust that he'll at least try. He'll block shots, he'll jump with bigger guys. He'll dive for the breakaway tackle. Especially at lower leagues, the try is always more important than anything else. This is why I always prioritize work rate bravery and determination in mentals. Because these are the guys that when my RB two foots a guy and we're 2 goals down and we need a draw to win the title are going to put in a shift.
20 bravery increases the chance of getting injured tho
And when that happens it will usually drop by 3 - 4 bravery points. But it's without a doubt, a very important atribute. Maybe around 13 - 14 bravery its the sweet spot, enought to challenge the ball, but not high enough to be reckless.
@@anon8510 if a player is able to have 20 bravery, and somehow manages to avoid getting injured, it's amazing. Better than 13 - 14.
But the chance of an injury because he decided to challenge the wrong play its way too high.
Personally, i prefer having a more carefull player (12 / 15), who is healthy more often, than a brave player who can injure himself easily.
Determination and work rate, yeah I agree. Bravery? Too low is bad, but there's no reason go to for 20. Aggression is really important because even with 20 bravery your RB won't do shit with 1 aggression.
@@maciejkornatowski3026 Aggression is a bad stat, it dictates the ferocity of the challenge, and increases the likelihood that they will argue with officials, you want 10 aggression with strong concentration, but you never want high aggression, especially if they have a high controversy rate, or the dreaded "has a competitive streak" in their report. This means in the big games, he's getting himself sent off 100%.
i thought aggression, workrate and determination are the attributes that define if he is going to try it. bravery comes only into play if the situation is dangerous.
Karambiri's skin color attribute needs a lot of development to reach Burkina Faso levels
I remember in FM12 (my first one) I tried to memorize some stats of one player then quickly looked at another player's stats to compare them. XD
I've been playing for a while and never new about the progress graph under development 😂. Thanks man that's very useful
When I first started playing, I never looked at attributes, I purely looked star rating/scout reports.
@@ZealandonYT of course at this time, I barely knew anything about soccer. I literally had just started getting into the sport(FM15 was my first) I literally didn't realize looking at attributes was a better way until well into FM16. I thought the star ratings were objective ratings lol
Oh man, it's the *big* one!
If FM was a solar system, player attributes would be the Sun.
Good video, keep going !, it is confusing though to compare lots of players`, esp different ages. Potential is often a guess !
Will you be continuing this series, its amazing and helpful
@@ZealandonYT Yeah i am watching all videos, feed me, my favourite youtuber
@@ImmortaliusMNE i like the energy bro
excellent tutorial, thanks for your help
The shape of your skull is pretty Belarusian
So i'm late to this video and the games. I'm starting at a small club with a poor coaching staff. Are player attributes accurate or are they based on my coaching staff evaluating them like the star ratings?
The video I've been waiting for! Thanks for the content man. One question (that may get answered in the tactics video): when youre managing lower league teams, do you get players that are as high as possible in their primary attributes but everything else is pretty weak, or do you go for the highest average all around? Sometimes it seems picking a player with high primary attributes are never reccomended to be signed after I scout
In my experience the lower the league, the more focus you should put on physicals (especially Speed = Acceleration & Pace).
Basically Physicals > Mentals > Technicals. Look at it like this:
If your body's not made for it, all your mentals and techniques don't matter. You're the worlds best dribbler? I don't care if your strength & balance is low - Hulk smash puny god.
You're the worlds best dribbler? Well, that's nice for you - but I don't care if you only get it done when you're alone on the pitch (= low mentals).
Technique's all about the quality and outcome of your actions - which doesn't really matter if you just can't to your action.
Thanks to both. That makes sense. Didnt think of that. Cheers!
@@ZealandonYT in my experience physical attributes are like cash in hand, accepted *everywhere* , no matter what league you are in, what the game situation is, or your tactical setup.
@@anon8510 yeah, another thing I didn't mention is that SI has even said that, since physical attributes aren't affected by a player's inconsistency trait, physically strong players can be more relied on to deliver consistent performances.
@@stephenmason9527 - I suppose that is realistic though. I'd say mentals are most affected by inconsistency, (or a player's lack of confidence)
Very good work Sir, big shout out to Dr Dave 😆
I was, correctly or incorrectly, under the assumption that the dark blue "highlighted" attributes were the most important then the grey ones after that but you mentioned the green numbers are?
Strangest thing is coming from Fifa with an attribute Range from 0-100
@@ZealandonYT and it rounds up or down for the profile page, so 15.4 dribbling would say 15, but 15.6 dribbling would say *16* and get that sexy, sexy light green coloring we all like to see.
FM Base i know but still Strange at first
@@anon8510 no, and that was my point. The game used to show the number to one decimal point in the development "spaghetti" graph lines, but on the player profile page, it has always just been a whole number. A player with 15.4 dribbling is 4% better (on a 1-20 scale) than a player with 14.6 dribbling, but both will just say 15!
Each point on the 1-20 scale equals a 5% improvement, or deterioration, so it's a bigger deal than some might think!
Aren't the "blue" highlighted attributes primary and the "grey/green" ones secondary? (makes sense on your wing back example, i.e. passing and crossing more important than marking)... don't tell me I've been doing it wrong this whole time lol
Blue is secondary for me when I went under my attribute page on the Tcs skin
@@ZealandonYT This one confuses me too in your video. As I understand it, important attributes for the role are highlighted in grey and usefull atributes are highlighted in blue. Also the numbers for the attributes are colorcoded: grey (1-5), white (6-10), yellow (11-15), green (16+). Of course, players 'choose' roles that they are good at, so the important attributes of their preferred roles usually have green values. Saying thet the important attributes are highlighted in green however, suggests that the UI chooses the color of the numbers, based on the role. I don't think that's true.
Bro protect your hairline at all costs!! 😂
Have you ever seen madmen?
0:07 - 0:29 is still how I play fm...
What's with the Iceland scarf in the back?
i have several potential 5 star regen goalkeepers, don't know if i should buy them due to 15+ in tendency to punch, now for the 23/24 years i've owned a cm/fm game i've never bought them due to punching the ball instead of taking them but my god they are so good in everything else and the scouts, who are good, have those said goalkeepers at 5 star potential, anyone have success with 15+ tendency to punch goalkeepers?
yeah, in real life I hate goalkeepers constangtly punching the ball away when they can save it. One of the things I least like to see in a player, ( turning back towards your opposition goal and passing it backwards when you are already in your own half is another one). Not sure how it translates to the game though
@@mattylamb9194 playing with back turned to CB's is something target men does? holding up the ball to get the team further up etc. I'm sure other roles like false9/complete forwards does that as well.Think u can train that trait to whoever has the right attributes as well. I think a poacher will do much less of that.
What does current ability mean?
kind of an overall comparing the entire team. Those stars there always compares the player to your team even if they are in a different team
but the stars are what your scouts "think" so take it with a bit of salt
There’s any correlation between the attributes and the stars?
Yea, the stars are a staff members opinion of how good a player is
wow will you get to the point and work through the attributes
I try to train my players in 3 diferent positions (Ex: DR, MR, MC)... is it bad for their development??
Depends some players are very versatile and play more positions and some not that good its called a hidden stat (like the consistency) u cant see hidden stats if you dont use editor
@@MrOguuz - in the nineties, it wasn;t that unusual to see players that could play at either centre-back or centre-forward, (Chris Sutton, Dion Dublin, Paul warhurst being three examples). You rarely see that represented in FM though
Can a players potential attribute rating increase??
No
it depends, its what your scouts "think" of a player
Heh actually attributes go up to 99 and then get divided by 5 and rounded so you think they go up to 20. Because reasons.
@@ZealandonYT Well since it is divided by 5 when displayed it is for all intents and purposes 10.2, 10.4 etc but the actual coded value goes up to 99 so from a code perspective there are much more increments than what you actually see ingame. You can check that with cheat-engine btw if you wonder how i know that.
Edit: Also it's the same thing for staff attribute (mostly)
WHAT THE HELL I ALWAYS THOUGH BLUE HIGHLIGHT IS THE BETTER NO WONDER IT DID NOT MAKE SENSE
guess what.. u did sound like that.. wow, u sounded so different
Dude, what's up with your voice?
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I would prefer if they gave us a option to have OVR lol
The reason they can’t is because they would have to weight the attributes (some are more important than others) and that would give us the cheat code
When your face is the right way around you look like Ryan Reynolds, When it gets reversed you look like Hugh Jackman... Lucky bugger...
Turkish Subtitles pls
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I'm sorry FMB I love you but Messi is the 2nd best player in the world. Ronaldo is 1st
@@ZealandonYT my thoughts on this debate is that Ronaldo has proven his greatness in the most physical league (premiership) and dominated. I just don't think messis flip flaps would work in the prem, and he would be bullied to the point we're he would have to rely on a more technical game instead of skill..
i would say Ronaldo is best in Terms of willpower, he´s a working mashine while messi is almost pure talent
@@dodgydpad1798 don't limit Ronaldo to just one league! That's not fair. It is extremely important to the Ronaldo case the fact that he has been extremely dominant in multiple leagues for multiple teams. Everyone saw what he did in the Premier League with Man U, his stint with Real Madrid might be the single greatest stint any goalscorer has *ever* had at a club, and now in Italy he has tied the all-time record for games scored in a row in that league.
Add to that the fact that he helped his nation win their first major international trophy ever, and that he's the highest scoring European player ever in internationals and almost certain to become the top international goal scorer of all time.
Now I'm not saying that Messi couldn't be great in another league for another team, but we are certain C Ronaldo can because he has proven it.
@@dodgydpad1798 right because Hazard, Sanchez, Bernardo and David Silva who aren’t close to Messi’s level were bad and bullied in Prem 😂