ON THE BENCH #3: Fender Jag-Stang Setup & Mustang Vibrato Overview
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This week we're taking a look at this Fender Jag-Stang, performing some routine maintenance and a setup with a focus on making the Mustang vibrato work as intended. It's one of my favorites from the Fender catalogue, but just like the Jazzmaster and Jaguar vibrato, the Dynamic unit gets a bad rap when all it takes is just a little extra effort to play its best.
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00:00 - 01:51 Intro
01:52 - 2:24 Opening Demo
02:25 - 04:48 The Job
04:49 - 05:29 Vibrato Trouble
05:30 - 07:17 Discovery
07:18 - 10:08 Vibrato Overview
10:09 - 13:51 Electronics & Cleaning
13:52- 14:53 Shimming Basics
14:54 - 15:28 Technical Difficulties lol
15:29 - 19:53 Shimming & Fretboard
21:10 - 22:47 Loc Tite Talk
22:48- 28:34 Vibrato Setup
28:35 - 30:17 Second Demo
30:18 - 31:06 Outro
31:07 - 32:13 Final Demo (clean)
32:14 - 32:34 Post Credits Sequence 
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World needs offsets. Offsets need Mike. World needs Mike.
@@Puisheen I want a jagstang but my wallet say noooooooooo and yes we need more offsets
They teach that syllogism in Logic 101, I believe. :)
@@Puisheen you are the bob ross of offsets
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there aren’t enough jag-stang videos, and there aren’t enough dynamic vibrato videos! THANK YOU
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I still _vividly_ remember being 15 and *horrified* that the bridge on my *brand new* sonic blue Jag-Stang had sunk following a band practise, turning my WEAPON OF GRUNGE into a sitar
How lucky that kids (young _and_ old) nowadays can have access to such helpful, thoughtful and funny content such as this. Party on, Mike. 💕
I had a Japanese Jaguar in high school that I begged my parents for for months, and it had the same problem. Talk about being underwhelmed, and extra sad that I just didn't have the knowledge to address it then.
Thankfully, my local library had a book about how to setup various Fender electric guitars, from tuning heads to the many various bridges, with diagrams showing all the areas that could be adjusted and how to adjust them. As it was the time before the internet was as widespread as today, if they didn’t have that book, it likely would have taken me a long while to figure out those little holes were actually how you adjusted the bridge height, and “cigar” tube height/spring tension. Never been a trem player, so I always just tighten the trem springs to where it basically acts like a hard tail. Improves sustainability and overall stability of the guitar
I was horrified when I bought the mastery bridge and it did the same =) I paid almost 200 bucks for it. But the threadlocker solved the problem. You can't fool physics, no matter how much money you offer to it😄
Just got one of the jag-stang reissues and loved it - that is, until, in just a few hours:
* the brige sank all the way in on the high E side
* I couldn't figure out how to get it restrung
* the springs inside the body came unhooked from their posts
I have no idea how I would have solved all that without this video. It plays perfectly now. I've never been so happy with a guitar. Thank you!!
Mike, you did an incredible job on Ports guitar! THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU!!! 🥳🥳🥳🥳
Tonyyyyyyyyy
@@Puisheen thank you so much!!! Just got a jag stang and I've been struggling to keep it in tune! You are my offset savior!!!
2:38 bout spit up my coffee with that Taps recorder solo -- RIP in peace LOL!!!
My friend had one in high school back in late 90s and it was great guitar. Cheers Mike :)
HEY BUDDY!!!!
I’ve owned a ‘65 Mustang since 1985 when I was 15. Bought it for $10 in pieces. It’s never been right. I think it will be now. Thanks you for this great video.
Was able to clean, string, and setup my old Jag-Stang from this video alone. Thanks man
Thank you Mike for making this video. It was a great reminder of how the FDS vibrato works. I hadn't messed with one since my first Fender guitar, a 1976 Mustang in natural ash, almost 30 years ago. a couple weeks ago I was asked to mod a tele with one of these systems and I couldn't remember much about it so i did some looking and found this video which brought it all back. Great work and thanks again.
How’d I MISS THIS?!? I did a setup on my 1995 JagStang (original owner) a couple months ago and it works with me perfectly. But I would’ve loved to tear it down WITH this video just for fun 😁 I just played it today, still perfect, then I see Trogly reporting the JagStang is BACK for summer 2021! I’m more excited for this video than monitoring vintage sale prices… mine is for playing, not for sale!
Dude your thoroughness and passion is inspirational.
RIP Scarlett, sacrifices had to be made for Port's sake. Thanks for sharing, Mike. My 3 year old also enjoyed watching, I think you have a new fan!
Yaaaaaay young viewers! Makes me feel like PBS!
one of my several dream guitars, honestly. Kudos for demystifying it a little!
When I was in music retail doing sales I said the EXACT same thing about poorly made and/or poorly setup guitars and how It is the probably the biggest deterrent to beginners. Especially younger ones.
Killer video. I loved setting those vibratos up🎉
The papyrus "rip in peace" *chef's kiss*
You have such a gift for explaining this tutorial. Amazing work! Waiting on my lefty Jagstang reissue to arrive!
You know, Todd Rundgren went thru a Mustang phase…and he whammy’d like crazy. I’ve often wondered what kind of attention his stage guitars got prior to touring…as I’m sure they were worked over much like this video showcases.
I respect any and all who embrace the Mustang. We’re all a special kind of crazy.
The Jagstang sounds great.
What a beautiful guitar also.
Excellent! I now have much greater appreciation for the Mustang bridge design.
Thanks a lot! Happy New Year!
Fascinating. Once again you've probably made a go-to vid for anyone wanting to deal with an offset system - the Mustang vibrato in this case. If the kid gets into playing it sounds like he could go hunting for some more sparkly pickups one day.
Agreed. I’m in love with the mustang vibrato since a long time. I used it on stage and studio, my mustang is my trusty guitar. They are very unique guitars with so much charm. (Plus they look very pretty) .
I looooove Mustangs so much.
Thanks Mike for the Mustang bridge setup tips.
Been playing catch up with your vids on offsets. Now a subscriber. Great stuff, Mike. Best, Pete.
This video is everything I ever wanted, thank you. Lovely guitar - and great to see a more in depth dive and understanding on a Mustang vibrato, you have a way of explaining these things that just makes perfect sense!
Matt this is so kind, thank you!
Love your playing. You're an OG. Just ordered a first run 1996 Jag-Stang! I can't wait!
Man, I am just loving your channel recently (watched all 6 “On The Bench” episodes today)! Your Bigsby video was a big help. Thanks so much for the awesome work!
I’ve recently run into an issue with a new Gretsch where depressing the Bigsby causes everything to go sharp until I pull UP on the bar to bring things back to pitch (like what was happening with the Jag-Stang in this video). Do you have a recommendation on where to lubricate the Bigsby itself like you did with the vibrato in this video? The nut slots are nicely cut and smooth so there is no binding there at the moment. Thanks so much!
I love coming back to this video to up my Jagstang. And yeah it always helps. Thanks dude
Thank you for this video. Helped me figure out how to navigate the problem with my bridge.
me halfway into trying to setup a Mustang: "Oh gosh, I have to see what Puisheen says to do here." Amazing reference video 🧡👏👏👏
Just got my first mustang with this vibrato. Really helpful vid! ❤
Thanks for all the good advices on fixing and getting back to life to all those guitars! I watch many of your clips and dawn you're a great artist, really enjoy your guitar style, you ROCK man! 🖖🤘
a very much needed video . im building my first mustang from a warmoth kit. but very inspired by the slash signature lp ananconda burst . its going to be beautiful once done.
Thanks for the guidance. Just bought a horrendously set up Mustang second hand and about to take it apart...
Wow, there’s way more to this guitar than I thought. Love it.
So many good tips I’ve picked up from this tutorial, as I get to know my (new to me) Squier Vintage Modified Mustang. Would love to see video for setting up and INTONATING a mustang. I haven’t found much content - other than this vid - on the balancing act required to intonate this jewel. I have, on order, a bridge from Warmoth and a replacement tailpiece as well. One of the set screws for the, ‘cigar’, is stripped (didn’t want the hassle of what’s required to remove the offending screw. These parts are not very expensive and I’m not so very facile with tools ;-) ). Thanks SO MUCH for the content you offer; very helpful to this, “offset noob”. Peace!
I just subbed after your recent squire mustang review and you had some amazing setup and playing demos thst I haven't seen elsewhere. I love the personal backstories of whose guitars they are and also the explanations of why people often have issues with these types of guitars. It really does help to know what a good guitar is beneath the surface of a little bit of work and persistence.
brilliant video as always mike ! love learning about offsets and offset set up from your channel
All I can say is this; Dude, where have you been all my (youtube) life?!?! I love the “daves world of fun stuff” channel, he has shown me a lot of different techniques for setup work and routines that I was already using, but even some I didn’t know before! I would blend his ideas and theories into mine and bam, then I saw this video! While I hate, absolutely deplore beards, it’s okay cause your a Trekkie, and a big dork! Just like me!!! And your a good player as well, couple that with the just easy and funny way you seem to be, I’m gonna say this; keep it up! This is awesome! Thank you so much for ....... using the entirety of the package if you will! You have a fan and fellow geek!!!!
This is beautiful!!! Got that thing sounding amazing!
Hi Mike! I've been following your channel for a bit, but I haven't commented until now. Thanks to this video, my Kurt Cobain Mustang now has a working tremolo. I was scared to try to do anything to it but watching this video on repeat gave me the confidence to tackle it. So thank you! 😁
this vid is really helpful! i got a mustang a couple weeks ago and followed the video in setting it up - I had an issue with 6th string being in tune on 12th fret and all over the fretboard and guitar going out of tune after using the whammy bar. and lowering down the cigar seems like solved these issues. thanks a lot! now all i need is get me some of those fluids you were using and apply those.
Just played a 1977 fender mustang blonde on blonde at my local guitar shop the other day. I have never been more in love with a guitar it was quite the darling. Mothers birth year, played beautifully, such a comfortable instrument and probably the best tremolo I've ever used. Couldn't knock it out of tune if I tried, and I did pretty hard. I need to go back and get it soon but the price kills me haha. Have a good one mike!
Oh man, jag-stang is such a great hunk of guitar. Props for your bro for giving his guitar to his kid. When i have kids they ain't touching my meteora ;)
Thanks for your public service to the Mustang-playing community. Please, keep it up! However, the three different spring mounting-grooves do NOT (primarily) change how far the spring is stretched - they change how much leverage (“moment-arm”) the spring has, against the force exerted by the guitar’s strings, on the ’cigar’ tailpiece. On this topic, the adjustment which allows raising or lowering the cigar, is there to fine-tune the moment-arm of the string’s force against the vibrato-springs (the ‘other side’ of this force-equation). by the way, you want the extra-low strength (purple) thread-locking compound. (I think it’s used in watch-repair…) Much easier to break free, in the future!
Thank you Mike for this video on setting up a Jag-Stang. I bought a 1977/1978 Fender Mustang from Guitar Center Hollywood and have been fighting with the tremolo so much but since the guitar is vintage, I didn't want to swap out any parts. Your video gave me a lot of hope that I could alleviate most of the tuning issues with a proper set up. - Justice Constantine
Justice, I'm so happy I could help!
Perfect video. Great guitar 🎸
Man that thing looks brand new!
Ironic that Kurt said he preferred the Japanese electronics, but obviously he cared more about the tone than he did the durability, since they would ultimately end up in a pile of sawdust on-stage 🤣🤘🏼
Nah dude did have guitars he cared about.
Strats though, if they were on stage you know they'd end up a pile of sawdust.
iirc he preferred the Japanese electrics because they were cheap and they had smaller frets and slimmer necks. I doubt he was really even thinking about the electronics.
@@seanmckelvey6618yeah this is the reason why, i believe earnie bailey himself said that and i think kurt may have even mentioned it in an interview.
Thanks for posting this video. While I’ve setup my JS, there are still a few tiny aspects of the setup that still don’t feel quite right but wasn’t really clear on what I could do to improve them further. I REALLY wish that the part where you did the shim had made it to the finished video as that is a major point that I want to see in EXTREME detail to make sure I don’t miss some minor, but crucial aspect. I want to see EXACTLY every step and any tricks or possibly unorthodox methods you might use and what you are looking for in an ideal setup. I do appreciate all the little tidbits of advise you spread thru out the video. I will be referring to it over the next few days as I make adjustments to my Jag-Stang! Thanks!
My old Mustang build has never been setup properly so this was most helpful.
I watched the video again and now my Mustang has the perfect setup. I was able to raise the bridge, shim the neck and adjust the Vibrato to be stable.
Once again a great video!!!
Brill learnt so much from your channel bought a beautiful £250 UK 2012 Squire Jazzmaster it was set up ok but after watching your tuitions it now plays beautifully with a deep clean and nourished fingerboard .yes the original trem is fine when set up .your channel is addictive
What a phenomenal comprehensive breakdown on that vibrato. Maybe theres a mustang is in my future...
Thank you, Jesse!
I wish my first guitar was a Jag-Stang
That would have been freaking awesome
that lock tite stuff is amazing every one should have a tube of that if they take care of thier own guitar.
Amazing video! And dude I love the way you play guitar, true master!! You rule 🤘
You're a great teacher dude, I've learned so much about fender vibratos watching you. I would love to see you work on a stratocaster vibrato and maybe a floyd rose, if that's something you dig of course? Anyways, I'm a gibson guy and I'm fixing to build my first jazzmaster because you now have me so intrigued with the instrument. Thank you for your extremely inspiring, entertaining and informative videos!
Great job!
I love your choice of shim.
Happy New Year! Offset guitars rule!
Love this channel. Keep it up bud,
Another great video Mike. Think i may dig out my jagstang this weekend.
Exciting! They're really great guitars, kinda makes me wish I also had one to dig out
Always been curious about mini pots vs full size. Would be a very interesting A/B test on something like a classic vibe.
Great video. In regard to the bridge posts, I used the white plumbers telfon tape (that's what I had) on my standard jag bridge and they don't sink but are still fully adjustable. Did that over four years ago.
Teflon can work! I just prefer the thread locker method
This was SO helpful! Thanks for all the guidance and non-judgmental information- you clearly know what you are doing but don't make us feel dumb for not knowing. haha
That was very informative. Thank you.
Mike the amount of times you blinged the strings starting @24:00 is the BEST. haha
Nice work. I love my mustang but I did hardtail it. I may take another look at the vibrato to see about those adjustments you demonstrated.
These really are just funny shaped Mustangs with a bridge bucker. My very first guitar tech kind of project was refurbishing my brother in laws very neglected 1998 made in Japan Fender Mustang. He didn’t want me to take it, but it was so bad that I stole it out of their house when they were out of town. I learned soooooo much from that project. I had to do a little of everything except dressing the frets.
The more of Mikes videos i watch, the more I need a Jaguar
Your videos are so good! Thanks for all the knowledge you bestow onto us. I also appreciate your positivity even when things may not be going your way...
Wish we had a video like this when I had a CIJ Mustang! (2006-7)
I use a small piece of shrink wrap tube on the bridge screws. They bind just enough to keep the screws from backing out.
Thank you for this awesome video
Love your Tshirt!!!
Just the video I was expecting. I have a jagstang and a mustang ♥️ Love short scale guitars
They're wonderful. I really need to get a Mustang at some point
That's a sick guitar! I've always wanted an all white Mustang with a single P90 in the bridge (either that or the Hello Kitty Strat with a P90.)
Now I finally know. How those Mustang cigar trems worked was the final trem system mystery I hadn’t yet uncovered.
Great video on the Jag Stang repair. Funny side note I had my TV on the back ground while you were your working on the wammy bar springs , I was also watching the Three Stooges episode were Curly is at a fancy dress ball and has a large Spring stuck on his pants 👖 and every time he takes a spill on the dance 🕺 floor he keep popping back up like a returning whammy Bar 🤣😉. sorry for silly side note but that is the hazards of watching RUclips guitar repair videos and the three Stooges at the same time.
Yes love a jagstang
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Some of your tips here have been lifechanging for my jag-stang, I can actually use the vibrato now - it’s a miracle. Definitely vouch for having the cigar lower, huge difference.
THANK YOU
Actually you've just opened my mind with this type of bridge. I mounted a chinese copy on my squier bullet mustang, and wondered why I wasn't able to put the strings in the right position... Those two screws, my gosh, I m so stupid I didn't know they were there, THANK YOU
Not stupid! They're hidden!
Great informative video! So inspiring...
Thank you!
Happy new year Mike
Happy new year!
Thank you so much, there aren't many resources for the mustang dynamic vibrato. And a lot of the ones that do exist (you are an exception) just say its just garbage and buy a strat. Which there is nothing wrong with strats just not my deal, mustangs for life
I did a complete u-turn on the Jagstang, I hated it back in the 90s, I like it now.
This video inspired me to set mine up, put some new Pick ups in. Great unique guitar that I decided to pull out more. Of course now they are reissuing again. Oh well, can't beat an original December 1996.
They're really great guitars. I'm looking forward to the new ones!
Amazing run-through of the setup @Puisheen Loved every minute of it. Going to do a setup of my Jag-Stang now in celebration of this. What is your go-to polishing method / products? Thank you again. Subscribed!
Great information. I had wondered how those vibratos/trems worked since they are different than the other Fender trems.
Yeah they use similar principles to a Stratocaster (springs mounted beneath a pivoting string anchor) but they're also much harder to understand.
Your timing is impeccable for this mustang job I am working on 🤩
Same! I got a 96 Fiesta red jagstang im working on.
Thanks for this video!! I have a Fiesta red 96 jagstang. I just put a dimarzio SD in and man I love that guitar. I've also built a jazzmaster and and currently turning a 64 JM body into a beast. Thanks to you I've finally found the curtis Novak pickups. I've been lookin for a humbucker that drops into a jm no problem. And without your channel I would be very clueless. So thank you for teaching me about these awesome offsets. Not many get it and there's certainly not enough info out there on them. Please continue what you are doing! Sorry for the novel 😅 I went Steven King style for a sec, maybe John Grissom. Much love!
Too kind, I appreciate it!
Awesome video ! Still waiting for the Helix Patch 😂
what an amazing first guitar to have
nice, very helpful.
Thanks for the video, I was so unimpressed with my Mustang constantly being out of tune that I just locked it…. It’s now extremely stable ha. But yea I’ll give the excellent advice a try when I replace my strings.
Just got one of these. Put a jb in the bridge and took the neck pickup out. Got it for £500 which is pretty good
Oh man I bought one of these when I was 16 back in the 90’s. Worked my butt off for it. First thing I did was put a tune-o-matic bridge on it. I hated the pickups on it. It was a weird love hate relationship with that guitar.
I took my Mustang for a "Platinum Setup" at my local guitar Center. The luthier wrapped the bridge posts with some kind of tape so that it wouldn't rock back and forth... 🤦♂️ Time to remove that tape...