Thank you AP. I think that better chain could help the Stihl but I am 100% positive the clone is more powerful and much more simple. Good design on these saws for sure!
@@aaronpowell4885 Sunday, my exhaustive chain test comes out. Just finished editing, interested to see the opinions. Sure a humbling video for sure but I think I learned something that may teach some ppl. Dukes, EXL, Holzfforma, hand file, raker setting and grinder time comparison. Hope to see you soon buddy!
To have a real accurate comparison you need to have the same size of bar and chain. Preferable the same bar and chain on both saws. Cause a shorter bar will cut faster cause the saw isn't pulling as much weight of a chain.
Good comparison Oakie 👍👍. I'd add that with the Proyama (like all clone saws) you just have to be prepared to wrench on the saw yourself as there aren't too many saw shops that will touch them.
You are 100% correct. Dealer support is key. If you need that or if that has value for you, that is of utmost importance to understand. Thank you for the input!
I have a 194t that has a 1/4 sprocket and chain and I run a 12'' bar it definitely starts and cuts much better than Brock's saw. I also use an unguarded chain which Stihl do not offer. What size chain did you use for the test?
Neighbor Joe. Great video as always. A little while back i picked up a cheap top handle. Hope it performs as well as the proyama. If it does for the money you cant beat it. Well, if the saw is cheap and performs you cant beat em
I fully agree with you on that one. One thing to consider is that all of them clone the same saw but not all the parts quality are equal. That is one thing that many don't understand about the clones saw market. There are good quality manufacturers and poor quality. Fit and finish, plastic quality and casting call all vary wildly. Normally, even the cheapest run fairly well but the plastic tens to be very brittle.
@@oakiewoodsman Joe that is great information. I'll get this one inspected and give it a go when I get a few days off. Itching to test it out. Thanks again
@@oakiewoodsman Thank you Mr Joe. It was alot of fun and a great learning experience. I haven't yet I've been busy at work. I'll finish getting it broke in and tuned up real soon.
I have an echo 355t and a stihl 194t. The echo is sturdier and more powerful but I hate it. I use the 194t for pretty much everything. The anti vibe on the echo harmed my hands after constant use for months. Trigger finger and tendinitis had my dreading work. Since I switched to the stihl, hands are much happier. The air filter set up on the 194t is less than ideal and the carb was difficult to dial in initially but it starts and runs good now. The echo is a tool of last resort now. My hands and wrist hurt just thinking about. Literally. The 500$ is nothing compared to the value of hands and fingers working right.
This is a very important thing. I have never run a 355t before so I cannot comment on where these saws compare to it. I will need to pay attention specifically to the vibration next time I run the Proyama. I dont remember it being harsh but I also do not use this type of saw as often. Great comment!
@brianc3481 it's a porker. Durable and strong. It will cut with the best of them but for finesse work pruning trees, I don't recommend it. It's well suited to chunking down 7 to 12 inch sections of tree but constant use may give your hands trouble. It certainly caused me some issues. Took about a year to heal up from. Occasional use and it shouldn't be an issue, just not very comfortable.
@@oakiewoodsman I just came out of the woods with a 194t cutting some hardwood some smaller than what you cut some larger,from what I can tell my saw cut almost twice as fast as yours.🍻
@@1911bg This is not my saw but Brock did mention, it has always been a bit of a let down. Maybe it was never right out of the dealer. I have heard a couple people mention good things about them but most of the comments have been that the saw is a little on the underwhelming side. I surely appreciate you sharing your experience. That is helpful for others who visit the comment section. This Proyama is not necessarily been stellar either. I have lots of content about that on my channel when I did videos later.
NOT a Stihl guy. That Stihl with a sharper chain would have decimated the cheap saw, However for occasional and homeowner use the cheap saw is a great buy. I bought a Sheppach top handle for $125 on ebay. Brand new, it is my go to for tops when cutting firewood at the farm .
I actually disagree. I do not think it would have made up 30%. It would have been closer but that clone is a bit more spicy out of the box. The 194T is not know to be a killer powerful saw.
Again not a Stihl fan, however. the Stihl should beat it with a Sharp chain. on a side note i love my cheap saw and it always starts and runs, not as fast and as hungry as I would like. @@oakiewoodsman
Excellent! Thank you for letting us all know. I have been very happy with this saw and others just like it. For a person looking for a stock saw that does a decent job at a good value, this saw is very good!
Fun fact, if you pull the side plate off of the 194 there will be a opening in the exhaust you can really easily widen up with a dremel. It'll double the power of the 194. I'm not even kidding, it turns it from a dog to a ripper and it only takes maybe 5 or 10 minutes.
That is awesome information! I believe you because on my ECHO CS-310, it came alive with a muffler mod. It is really close to the ported one I have and it is just a muffler mod which is awesome! Thank you for sharing Here is a link to the video. Mind blowing! ruclips.net/video/7S-w9YlLCk0/видео.html
Might check out habitat stores if you mechanical at all, My son recently brought me a couple of little top handles that with a little cleaning and tlc are great little saws. Total investment $30.
Nice video gives me even more incentive to buy the proyama. I use to port my race bikes so i want to see what i can do to a chainsaw. I would rather experiment on a $200 saw over a 600 or more dollar saw. 💪
That is another great thing to think about. Many people want to try to get more out of their equipment. If that is you, this is a great option! Plus, they aint bad stock. Thank you much!
I have Chinese saw from Amazon. It lasted a whopping 2 trail cutting sessions of about 4 hrs each before it blew up. Just got a ms194t. The better saw is worth it.
@@oakiewoodsman I have a neotec and the air cleaner isn’t even a real filter. So it sucked in debris and destroyed the top end. It is an easy fix, which I will do and put a better filter element in it. The saw did run well but only lasted a couple sessions in stock form.
Also, dealer support.. With saws like this one, you better be able to tinker or source parts when needed. Not too bad IMO but that is not for everyone. Especially if you are making a living with it. Sometimes you need to drop it off and get back to work and pick it up a couple days later. Thanks Tom
It’s funny really, I hate clone saws and Chinese saws in general. I own 3 194’s that stay with my ground guys and let me be the first to say they are absolutely junk, if one got ran over , one fell in the chipper and the last got left behind a tree I wouldn’t care. So with that said I approve this message 😂
hahahahaha..... very strong approval.... or disapproval however you want to look at it! 😂😂😂😂😂. There has been a few that say the the test was not fair but I am telling you, the 194t is very unimpressive even when it is not stuck in a piece of wood!
@@oakiewoodsman no bevause over ran one 5 years straight every day doing huge jobs ...not one visit to a shop..just changed the clutch 2 weeks ago...I run tree care and landscaping buisness..I've tryed and own 201t and other too handle s..t540 t540i...ran the 194 193.....absolutely nothing beats echo 2511t it's not debate its gospel ..I have 2 new ported versions now..3 total ..it is hands down the best and most used tool I've ever bougt...and can use it 1 hand 🖐...injured or not. I can hold trees &brush with arm and arm pit while cutting and clearing entire lake fronts with other hand ..I just did a Dr's place ,client again thos was 6acres of trees thorns shrubs vines xctra on hillside the excavators had to pack up and go with 1 2511t and 1 rope 1 truck I completed it all in 1 week..trees from full size to small tangled snaggs you name it..red cedar oak hickory walnut maple mulberry...xctra it's nothing compares so it went up 100 bucks all things have went up in cost..it payed for itself first day..years ago..plus I bought 2 new ones before they went up..but again every thing went up
I am no fan of Chinese clones. Don't trust them at all, but I trust them more than stihl. Thats saying something. Every piece of stihl equipment I've ever handled was hot garbage except for an old 440 magnum. My top handle is the new dewalt 60v flexvolt saw. I have to say I think it would have cooked both those saws. I had pretty low expectations when I got it, being a battery saw, but I'm very impressed with it do far.
I know you certainly have a bad taste in your mouth for Stihl! Battery certainly has a place and you are figuring that out right now man! I think you said something about hanging it off of your chipper right?
@oakiewoodsman yes sir. Well I have 2. The dewalt 20v similar to tour rigid. Great for small limbing or letting the kids learn on. The 60v top handle is a different animal entirely. I'm pretty sure it could out cut my 4010. I'll put them side by side one day. Battery definitely has its place I agree, and my top handle does live on my chipper right now, but if I were to take up climbing, based on what I've seen with it so far, I'd have no problem taking 14" or even bigger tops with it. I haven't run a full battery through on it yet. I think I might put a 9 ah battery in it and see how many cuts I get in x side log, 6,8,10, whatever I can just as an experiment. A full battery has no issue limbing stuff for a chipper all day long though, which is impressive.
It is amazing tech for sure. Very nice to have it be on/off when needed rather than idling for a minute cause your goig to used it again shortly. Perfect for climbing, that is for sure
@oakiewoodsman yeah. The dewalt ones actually have a screen on them 😆 it shows battery level, chain break on or off, and if you dog in too hard before it stalls you get a yellow triangle pop up. But it's a pro tier saw. Metal dogs, 60v battery, adjustable oiler, harness lanyard with steel loop, picco oregon chain. It's pretty impressive. Way better than any other battery saw I've seen.
Want to test/compare two chainsaws - use the same bar & chain on both chainsaws. Want to test/compare two chainsaw chains - use the same chainsaw for both chains. A comparison like this doesn't really declare anything in my opinion. If you had switched bars & chains, done the same cuts again, and showed us the same saw wins, then you could have declared a winner. The camera angle changed between using the two chainsaws, but it appeared that the Proyama chain was throwing larger wood chips.
@@oakiewoodsman An older saw with an older chain vs a new saw with a new chain. I got that. I think your point was good, & I wasn't trying to take away from that. If you don't have a big need for a small top handle saw, the more affordable Proyama chainsaw my be the better choice. I judge my chainsaws by how they are doing after 15-20 years of use. 🙂
This is bullshit bro. I have the 194 c-m and cut like razor. You cut with a "dead" chain, Sharp the chain on Stihl and try again. Chinese saw has no hope.
Silly. That saw is known not to be a powerhouse. The owner was never impressed with it himself. I have moved away from clone saws for the most part and have ECHO top handles now. Thanks for sharing
@@alexts359 I understand. My 2511T was underwhelming with 3/8lp on it but when I converted it to nano, all was well. Now it is out for porting. Thanks for writing back.
Can you purchase one brand new tomorrow though? They look great but parts just simply are not as plentiful. Would be very cool to have. Is not a 200T the most desired older top handle though?
@@oakiewoodsman Negative. Production for the S-25 series started in 1974 I believe, and ended in 1994. These saws were sold under many "house brand" names (mine is branded as a Crapsman). It's 2nd only to the Homelite XL-12 in terms of production numbers. There's plenty of parts available for the S-25. NOS, good used, and new production aftermarket. About the 200T. It's a great little top handle that Stihl-Heads cream their underwear over. The 200T certainly isn't anything special to me, unlike some of the Stihl-Heads trying to get as much as $3,000 for an used one. I can get a Husqvarna 3120 or Stihl 881 for that price out the door. It's quite hilarious watching a Stihl-Head looking like they 💩 their pants when they see a S-25 cutting wood.
@@williambray4134 good information for the right person for sure. Really not much different from having to learn and track parts down for one of the clones. Color variation, slight design differences etc. I looked on eBay and there are some parts available for them. Not many whole saws but again, this may be a very good niche for some ppl to know about. Thanks for contributing
@@oakiewoodsman While the S-25 is a very well made saw, I doubt it's legal to use commercially. It's also very easy to work on. The S-25, and 200T are on top of the TH ladder. None better than these two. Both are nearly indestructible unless you go out of your way to kill them.
Clone saws have come a long way! Further proof one doesn't NEED a pro saw for occasional use. Good comparison👍🏻
Thank you AP. I think that better chain could help the Stihl but I am 100% positive the clone is more powerful and much more simple. Good design on these saws for sure!
@oakiewoodsman I agree a good non safety and/or full chisel chain would help that Stihl. Interesting that the zenoah clone has noticeably more power!
@@aaronpowell4885 Sunday, my exhaustive chain test comes out. Just finished editing, interested to see the opinions. Sure a humbling video for sure but I think I learned something that may teach some ppl. Dukes, EXL, Holzfforma, hand file, raker setting and grinder time comparison. Hope to see you soon buddy!
To have a real accurate comparison you need to have the same size of bar and chain. Preferable the same bar and chain on both saws. Cause a shorter bar will cut faster cause the saw isn't pulling as much weight of a chain.
Correct but the 194t would stihl be slower. Thanks for watching.
Good comparison Oakie 👍👍. I'd add that with the Proyama (like all clone saws) you just have to be prepared to wrench on the saw yourself as there aren't too many saw shops that will touch them.
You are 100% correct. Dealer support is key. If you need that or if that has value for you, that is of utmost importance to understand. Thank you for the input!
I have a 194t that has a 1/4 sprocket and chain and I run a 12'' bar it definitely starts and cuts much better than Brock's saw. I also use an unguarded chain which Stihl do not offer. What size chain did you use for the test?
it is the style of chain the saw came with. Pretty sure it is semi chisel. Thanks for watching and commenting.
if it is an older 194 it probably has 3/8 low-profile chain on it.@@oakiewoodsman
Neighbor Joe. Great video as always.
A little while back i picked up a cheap top handle. Hope it performs as well as the proyama. If it does for the money you cant beat it.
Well, if the saw is cheap and performs you cant beat em
I fully agree with you on that one. One thing to consider is that all of them clone the same saw but not all the parts quality are equal. That is one thing that many don't understand about the clones saw market. There are good quality manufacturers and poor quality. Fit and finish, plastic quality and casting call all vary wildly. Normally, even the cheapest run fairly well but the plastic tens to be very brittle.
@@oakiewoodsman Joe that is great information. I'll get this one inspected and give it a go when I get a few days off. Itching to test it out.
Thanks again
I was impressed with you first kit saw build! Good work. Have you got it tuned up better yet? @@TheRustyGarageandHomestead
@@oakiewoodsman Thank you Mr Joe. It was alot of fun and a great learning experience. I haven't yet I've been busy at work. I'll finish getting it broke in and tuned up real soon.
@TheRustyGarageandHomestead awesome man
I have an echo 355t and a stihl 194t. The echo is sturdier and more powerful but I hate it. I use the 194t for pretty much everything. The anti vibe on the echo harmed my hands after constant use for months. Trigger finger and tendinitis had my dreading work. Since I switched to the stihl, hands are much happier. The air filter set up on the 194t is less than ideal and the carb was difficult to dial in initially but it starts and runs good now. The echo is a tool of last resort now. My hands and wrist hurt just thinking about. Literally. The 500$ is nothing compared to the value of hands and fingers working right.
This is a very important thing. I have never run a 355t before so I cannot comment on where these saws compare to it. I will need to pay attention specifically to the vibration next time I run the Proyama. I dont remember it being harsh but I also do not use this type of saw as often. Great comment!
Good point, the vibrations can be a real issue over time. I'm looking at getting a 355t and that was one of my concerns.
@brianc3481 it's a porker. Durable and strong. It will cut with the best of them but for finesse work pruning trees, I don't recommend it. It's well suited to chunking down 7 to 12 inch sections of tree but constant use may give your hands trouble. It certainly caused me some issues. Took about a year to heal up from. Occasional use and it shouldn't be an issue, just not very comfortable.
@@johngardner3020 good information as always!
Good show brother Joe. Good comparison. Was that fire ever glowing hot.
Thank you Kenny! It sure was, I haven't seen whatever happened to it. I know he was hoping to have it burned up as quick as possible.
Extremely valuable comparison! Gonna go with Amazon! Thanks
Appreciated sir! You have a good one neighbor!
Dude you need to sharpen that Sthil
@@1911bg freshly filed semi chisel chain. Rakers adjusted as well. The saw is VERY underpowered
@@oakiewoodsman I just came out of the woods with a 194t cutting some hardwood some smaller than what you cut some larger,from what I can tell my saw cut almost twice as fast as yours.🍻
@@1911bg This is not my saw but Brock did mention, it has always been a bit of a let down. Maybe it was never right out of the dealer. I have heard a couple people mention good things about them but most of the comments have been that the saw is a little on the underwhelming side. I surely appreciate you sharing your experience. That is helpful for others who visit the comment section. This Proyama is not necessarily been stellar either. I have lots of content about that on my channel when I did videos later.
NOT a Stihl guy. That Stihl with a sharper chain would have decimated the cheap saw, However for occasional and homeowner use the cheap saw is a great buy. I bought a Sheppach top handle for $125 on ebay. Brand new, it is my go to for tops when cutting firewood at the farm .
I actually disagree. I do not think it would have made up 30%. It would have been closer but that clone is a bit more spicy out of the box. The 194T is not know to be a killer powerful saw.
Again not a Stihl fan, however. the Stihl should beat it with a Sharp chain. on a side note i love my cheap saw and it always starts and runs, not as fast and as hungry as I would like. @@oakiewoodsman
I have that saw for the past year ported the muffler put a14inch bar it's a beast start like à charme this saw work very well
Excellent! Thank you for letting us all know. I have been very happy with this saw and others just like it. For a person looking for a stock saw that does a decent job at a good value, this saw is very good!
Fun fact, if you pull the side plate off of the 194 there will be a opening in the exhaust you can really easily widen up with a dremel. It'll double the power of the 194. I'm not even kidding, it turns it from a dog to a ripper and it only takes maybe 5 or 10 minutes.
That is awesome information! I believe you because on my ECHO CS-310, it came alive with a muffler mod. It is really close to the ported one I have and it is just a muffler mod which is awesome! Thank you for sharing
Here is a link to the video. Mind blowing! ruclips.net/video/7S-w9YlLCk0/видео.html
👍👍 cheap saw does well.
I am fairly happy with it. Also, I am super happy that the canvas bag actually keeps the oil inside from what I can tell.
Good stuff!
Thank you Ted!
Might check out habitat stores if you mechanical at all, My son recently brought me a couple of little top handles that with a little cleaning and tlc are great little saws. Total investment $30.
Good tip!
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Nice video gives me even more incentive to buy the proyama. I use to port my race bikes so i want to see what i can do to a chainsaw. I would rather experiment on a $200 saw over a 600 or more dollar saw. 💪
That is another great thing to think about. Many people want to try to get more out of their equipment. If that is you, this is a great option! Plus, they aint bad stock. Thank you much!
I have Chinese saw from Amazon. It lasted a whopping 2 trail cutting sessions of about 4 hrs each before it blew up. Just got a ms194t. The better saw is worth it.
Thank for sharing. What failed?
@@oakiewoodsman I have a neotec and the air cleaner isn’t even a real filter. So it sucked in debris and destroyed the top end. It is an easy fix, which I will do and put a better filter element in it. The saw did run well but only lasted a couple sessions in stock form.
interesting. Thank you for sharing!
I have a supmix chainsaw and it starts up right away, redmaxx clone. I think this is better than proyama but unfortunately not top handle.
Thanks or sharing!
Pretty impressive the cheaper saw Cut twice as fast just goes to show you sometimes you’re paying for the branding 😂
Also, dealer support.. With saws like this one, you better be able to tinker or source parts when needed. Not too bad IMO but that is not for everyone. Especially if you are making a living with it. Sometimes you need to drop it off and get back to work and pick it up a couple days later. Thanks Tom
@@oakiewoodsman welcome 👍
It’s funny really, I hate clone saws and Chinese saws in general. I own 3 194’s that stay with my ground guys and let me be the first to say they are absolutely junk, if one got ran over , one fell in the chipper and the last got left behind a tree I wouldn’t care. So with that said I approve this message 😂
hahahahaha..... very strong approval.... or disapproval however you want to look at it! 😂😂😂😂😂. There has been a few that say the the test was not fair but I am telling you, the 194t is very unimpressive even when it is not stuck in a piece of wood!
What to buy neither...2511t smokes em both ..i know
Thanks for sharing. Keep in mind cost and the occasional user. I like the 2511t however they are more $$$.
@@oakiewoodsman no bevause over ran one 5 years straight every day doing huge jobs ...not one visit to a shop..just changed the clutch 2 weeks ago...I run tree care and landscaping buisness..I've tryed and own 201t and other too handle s..t540 t540i...ran the 194 193.....absolutely nothing beats echo 2511t it's not debate its gospel ..I have 2 new ported versions now..3 total ..it is hands down the best and most used tool I've ever bougt...and can use it 1 hand 🖐...injured or not. I can hold trees &brush with arm and arm pit while cutting and clearing entire lake fronts with other hand ..I just did a Dr's place ,client again thos was 6acres of trees thorns shrubs vines xctra on hillside the excavators had to pack up and go with 1 2511t and 1 rope 1 truck I completed it all in 1 week..trees from full size to small tangled snaggs you name it..red cedar oak hickory walnut maple mulberry...xctra it's nothing compares so it went up 100 bucks all things have went up in cost..it payed for itself first day..years ago..plus I bought 2 new ones before they went up..but again every thing went up
I am no fan of Chinese clones. Don't trust them at all, but I trust them more than stihl. Thats saying something. Every piece of stihl equipment I've ever handled was hot garbage except for an old 440 magnum. My top handle is the new dewalt 60v flexvolt saw. I have to say I think it would have cooked both those saws. I had pretty low expectations when I got it, being a battery saw, but I'm very impressed with it do far.
I know you certainly have a bad taste in your mouth for Stihl! Battery certainly has a place and you are figuring that out right now man! I think you said something about hanging it off of your chipper right?
@oakiewoodsman yes sir. Well I have 2. The dewalt 20v similar to tour rigid. Great for small limbing or letting the kids learn on. The 60v top handle is a different animal entirely. I'm pretty sure it could out cut my 4010. I'll put them side by side one day. Battery definitely has its place I agree, and my top handle does live on my chipper right now, but if I were to take up climbing, based on what I've seen with it so far, I'd have no problem taking 14" or even bigger tops with it. I haven't run a full battery through on it yet. I think I might put a 9 ah battery in it and see how many cuts I get in x side log, 6,8,10, whatever I can just as an experiment. A full battery has no issue limbing stuff for a chipper all day long though, which is impressive.
It is amazing tech for sure. Very nice to have it be on/off when needed rather than idling for a minute cause your goig to used it again shortly. Perfect for climbing, that is for sure
@oakiewoodsman yeah. The dewalt ones actually have a screen on them 😆 it shows battery level, chain break on or off, and if you dog in too hard before it stalls you get a yellow triangle pop up. But it's a pro tier saw. Metal dogs, 60v battery, adjustable oiler, harness lanyard with steel loop, picco oregon chain. It's pretty impressive. Way better than any other battery saw I've seen.
wow! I need to see that in action for sure!@@canuck7268
Want to test/compare two chainsaws - use the same bar & chain on both chainsaws.
Want to test/compare two chainsaw chains - use the same chainsaw for both chains.
A comparison like this doesn't really declare anything in my opinion.
If you had switched bars & chains, done the same cuts again, and showed us the same saw wins, then you could have declared a winner. The camera angle changed between using the two chainsaws, but it appeared that the Proyama chain was throwing larger wood chips.
This was all addressed in the video. This is how these two saws are specs from purchase.
@@oakiewoodsman An older saw with an older chain vs a new saw with a new chain. I got that. I think your point was good, & I wasn't trying to take away from that. If you don't have a big need for a small top handle saw, the more affordable Proyama chainsaw my be the better choice. I judge my chainsaws by how they are doing after 15-20 years of use. 🙂
dull chain vs sharp chain. come on. 2 big a bar on the 194. also looks and sounds ragged out
No. Seminchisel vs full chisel. Also that saw is known to be gutless.
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Thank you Buddy!
@@oakiewoodsman 👊 Gonna have 2 add Grizzly 2 your name if you keep up that beard!
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This is bullshit bro. I have the 194 c-m and cut like razor. You cut with a "dead" chain, Sharp the chain on Stihl and try again. Chinese saw has no hope.
Silly. That saw is known not to be a powerhouse. The owner was never impressed with it himself. I have moved away from clone saws for the most part and have ECHO top handles now. Thanks for sharing
@@oakiewoodsman for what it made for... yes is powerful. Try 35cm, 1.3, 50g with a Pico chain. It cuts small trees (10-15") for breakfast
@@alexts359 I understand. My 2511T was underwhelming with 3/8lp on it but when I converted it to nano, all was well. Now it is out for porting. Thanks for writing back.
My S-25 CVA will smoke both of them.
Can you purchase one brand new tomorrow though? They look great but parts just simply are not as plentiful. Would be very cool to have. Is not a 200T the most desired older top handle though?
@@oakiewoodsman Negative. Production for the S-25 series started in 1974 I believe, and ended in 1994. These saws were sold under many "house brand" names (mine is branded as a Crapsman). It's 2nd only to the Homelite XL-12 in terms of production numbers. There's plenty of parts available for the S-25. NOS, good used, and new production aftermarket.
About the 200T. It's a great little top handle that Stihl-Heads cream their underwear over. The 200T certainly isn't anything special to me, unlike some of the Stihl-Heads trying to get as much as $3,000 for an used one. I can get a Husqvarna 3120 or Stihl 881 for that price out the door. It's quite hilarious watching a Stihl-Head looking like they 💩 their pants when they see a S-25 cutting wood.
@@williambray4134 good information for the right person for sure. Really not much different from having to learn and track parts down for one of the clones. Color variation, slight design differences etc. I looked on eBay and there are some parts available for them. Not many whole saws but again, this may be a very good niche for some ppl to know about. Thanks for contributing
@@oakiewoodsman
While the S-25 is a very well made saw, I doubt it's legal to use commercially. It's also very easy to work on. The S-25, and 200T are on top of the TH ladder. None better than these two. Both are nearly indestructible unless you go out of your way to kill them.