Dr. Sadler can you explain the piece of Book 7 where Socrates speaks of the importance of things arousing in sensation the opposite of their sensed concept? I have no idea how to fit that into the theme of ascent or dialectic progression toward the good
@@GregoryBSadler Yes, but he speaks of (If i'm not mistaken) how we should look towards objects that engender the sensation of its opposite, like surfaces giving us both hard and soft. I'm really not sure how he means it.
@@mgk9213 (take all I say with a huge grain of salt, I just read this chapter for the first time and I could be completely off), from what I understood Plato is saying that things that arouse in sensation its opposite have an innate ability to pull you towards the truth, in a way. By observing surfaces, hardness vs softness, and having your soul contemplate whether a surface is hard or soft, your soul is looking for the truth, and since 'the good' is the ultimate truth (form) it's a sort of conditioning (maybe?). If one only looks at things the soul/mind observes as one, without any contemplation, you stay docile. Instead, like the prisoner who is educated by searching further and further towards what is true and real, and ultimately sees the sun, the guardians are to study these 'objects', calculation for example, since calculation has an innate affinity to the truth, ergo to 'the good'. Hopefully, Dr. Sadler can answer this since I have no idea if my answer is in any way legitimate. I'm completely new to philosophy and have only read the Meno/Euthyphro/Apology/Crito/Phaedo before Republic.
If you're like me and grew up in a rural environment, left that environment, and then returned with stories of the world; this story is your [my] life...
Great account of The Cave... I am currently making a graphical adaptation of the Republic with a colleague and professors of Portland State's philosophy department. If it is useful to you, we have the prototype thumbnails up on our website for people to view, which currently includes The Allegory of the Cave, The Ring of Gyges, and The Myth of the Metals. We used a ton of secondary sources to get it "right", and each page is fully annotated. In its current form it's a bit rough, but we are working with a professional artist now and eventually we will have the entirety of the Republic reinterpreted in the comic medium. Feel free to check it out: platosrepubliccomic.com
Man this allegory is so relatable.
Indeed
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Dr. Sadler can you explain the piece of Book 7 where Socrates speaks of the importance of things arousing in sensation the opposite of their sensed concept? I have no idea how to fit that into the theme of ascent or dialectic progression toward the good
It's at the level of sensing visible things, no?
@@GregoryBSadler Yes, but he speaks of (If i'm not mistaken) how we should look towards objects that engender the sensation of its opposite, like surfaces giving us both hard and soft. I'm really not sure how he means it.
@@mgk9213 (take all I say with a huge grain of salt, I just read this chapter for the first time and I could be completely off),
from what I understood Plato is saying that things that arouse in sensation its opposite have an innate ability to pull you towards the truth, in a way. By observing surfaces, hardness vs softness, and having your soul contemplate whether a surface is hard or soft, your soul is looking for the truth, and since 'the good' is the ultimate truth (form) it's a sort of conditioning (maybe?). If one only looks at things the soul/mind observes as one, without any contemplation, you stay docile. Instead, like the prisoner who is educated by searching further and further towards what is true and real, and ultimately sees the sun, the guardians are to study these 'objects', calculation for example, since calculation has an innate affinity to the truth, ergo to 'the good'.
Hopefully, Dr. Sadler can answer this since I have no idea if my answer is in any way legitimate. I'm completely new to philosophy and have only read the Meno/Euthyphro/Apology/Crito/Phaedo before Republic.
better lecture than my professor's
Thanks!
If you're like me and grew up in a rural environment, left that environment, and then returned with stories of the world; this story is your [my] life...
Could be!
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Great account of The Cave... I am currently making a graphical adaptation of the Republic with a colleague and professors of Portland State's philosophy department. If it is useful to you, we have the prototype thumbnails up on our website for people to view, which currently includes The Allegory of the Cave, The Ring of Gyges, and The Myth of the Metals. We used a ton of secondary sources to get it "right", and each page is fully annotated. In its current form it's a bit rough, but we are working with a professional artist now and eventually we will have the entirety of the Republic reinterpreted in the comic medium. Feel free to check it out: platosrepubliccomic.com
I took a look. It's really interesting.