Here's the full responses sheet for THE survey. Let me know if you find anything that I missed! docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1vphuPQtQevNGUfrl80LEeTcA2K6yQehpTFPMjBEsSZU/edit?usp=sharing
I feel like one thing that massively effects the results is that there wasn’t Korean or Chinese voting, if there was I feel the Chinese teams would be a lot higher ranked
@@Dividingby0 Imo, it's better to have the roughly NA/EU opinion separate from the APAC opinion, as the two communities have been rather separate from the beginning of Season 2 because of the language and forum barriers and the region split has made it even more so. That said, I wish there was an easy way to get ahold of Chinese and Korean fans' opinions from here in NA
As a Seoul fan this is far too relatable. It feels like the team becomes less popular year on year and it’s only the old Lunatic Hai supporters (like myself) and/or fans of players like Tobi or Profit that stick with the team right now. Bring back RJH :(
It's telling that last time I did a match prediction for them I just said f*** it and flipped a coin and it turned out be the correct score and win :/ They have talent but arghhhh please can you just be consistent
i liked seoul for rjh and fleta but when they got replaced by profit gesture and bdosin it kinda sucked but i thought it was doable. honestly it's been so painful being a seoul fan, like ryujekong in s1 and a lackluster performance even with a stacked roster in s2 and 3 I'm honestly thinking of switching to sfs bc I'm a super fan
@Wol Sir, I use your words as mine. I guess my original reasoning was different but I am a current Dynasty fan because for some reason I always choose teams that have potential but are destined to fail.
For me I think that it just came from them being the only Korean team in OWL - back when it started I was just "hur dur Koreans are the best" without really identifying Korean talent across the league, or rising NA talent. But I think it's just important to stick with your pick - it doesn't feel the same when a team I'm jumping on the bandwagon for (Paris) wins, but when Seoul wins big it's huge. The longer you stick by a team, the better the payoff. Looking at all the new Dragon fans with disappointment tbh. I also want to see content from them. Profit and Gesture are actually great personalities and we need more of them. At least I get to see lots of Jecse (RIP) on Outlaws YT.
"Maybe Fuel fans crave an ounce of success once in a while" As a Dallas/Shock fan this hit way too deep. To add to that: Shock got many of their fans due to personalities like sinatra or super. After the beloved Dallas squad of 2018 left, many people might have found in Shock what they loved about Dallas in S1.
That comment about Dallas... Shit hits home. I keep wanting them to do well. I've been wanting this since 2018. At least my first favorite team (Shanghai) are doing great so I have something to look forward to.
Im Philly Fan since the first pre-season in which they didn't even play. Because no team is from my countrie i didn't know who i'd cheer for, i didn't knew a lot of player either, but after looking up all the teams and their players i spottet Carpe and Shadowburn and these were the two most important players for me, I started playing Overwatch because of Shadowburns amazing Genji (it looked so fun and i wanted to learn that too) and learned hitscan a bit later because of Carpes Gameplay and till this day i kept maining McCree and Widow
Really good work done here. I've actually learned more about the owl fan base in 20 minutes that I have over the last 3 years. I think this style of content is your niche, maybe you could tweek the surveys to answer more specific questions around a host of different topics and potentially give a genuine voice to the owl fan base. I'd answer surveys on owl all day.
Tbh you’ve got the London one spot on. I couldn’t imagine supporting another team being as I am from England, this season they’ve been tough to watch with no real big name players or experience they haven’t really given fans anything to cheer for this season and I hope they can fix this with some roster changes for next season.
totally agree. Their gameplay has been frustrating to watch, but as a Brit they're just damn lovable. Plus we have Stylosa and that counts for a lot :D
really interesting and unique video, thank u for making it. didn't see the og survey link but if ur interested, i'm a fusion fan since s1. back then i had a very narrow view of the game so i noticed the people who were good at the few heroes i played - neptuno's mercy, poko's dva and shadowburn's pharah i really enjoyed watching. since then, i've come to love the way they always keep u on the edge of ur seat (it's always map 5 in philadelphia) and carpe and alarm's MONSTROUS gameplay. and sado's redemption arc!!!! i don't have a second favourite team but rather a small group of other teams i cheer for - nyxl, gzc, shd + outlaws.
This is a really good video, and props to you for collecting all the data and putting it all together so well. I have to say, I do wonder how the results would differ if the survey was taken from a larger grouping. The OWL RUclips Streams average well over 20k viewers even when the less popular teams are playing. I'm willing to bet that there would be similar results, but it is food for thought.
"Why would you root for the Justice when the Fusion or the NYXL are a reasonable distance away?" Well, first there are some SERIOUS rivalries between D.C., Philly, NYC, and Boston. My brother hasn't forgiven Bryce Harper for moving from the Nationals to the Phillies. Second, who else is the mid-Atlantic supposed to root for?! There's no one to cheer on between Washington and Atlanta, so guess where many people from Maryland, Delaware, Virginia, and North Carolina are going to put their support.
Yeah as someone from the East coast hearing him say that made me laugh. Philly and NY can't get along and they're practically on top of each other. Washington is like another country to us.
You also have to consider that Washington was an expansion team. In season 1, the East Coast had NYXL, Philly, and Boston, *all 3 of which* made the playoffs that year (and Florida, but they were garbage), so you had ample choice on the East Coast. Those original loyalties, even if Washington became the closest team to them geographically once Season 2 came around, stick, and it doesn't help that Washington was a dumpster fire for the season's first 3 stages
Thank you Dividing! Once again you have made an amazing video with clear effort put into it. I really enjoyed the watch even though i missed the survey! My votes wouldve been Paris and then either the Spark or the Dragons for anime or for the 0-40 Stage 1. Great content, keep it up!
"The French have always been known as a very passionate fanbase in overwatch" I think you mean in LITERALLY ANYTHING EVER! #RememberLunaticHai #RememberAPEX
Dammit, wish I knew this survey was going on I would have loved to have contributed :( maybe next time it would be nice to have a video announcing the survey on here? I don't really look at social media channels of RUclipsrs I follow ^^;
Same, a video with a link in the description would've improved the turnout. Also, I would've been able to unironically put Boston solely because of Jerry.
I really love wachting your content but this video was something else like whole sh*t this was one of the best videos i watched this year for sure. I know it would be even more work but im sure many people would love to see a similiar survey done for most popular player. maybe dont go into specifis and just list all player idk but i sure would like to see that. Appreciate the work keep it up mate
The fuel bit hurt a little. I’m just like a majority of the respondents there. I got into overwatch as a whole by watching Envy in Apex, so I followed them into the league. I question my loyalty every game, but just keep coming back.
I think one of the reason Fusion might've had player origin as a big plus might also be because Poko is hugely popular in the French/ French talking overwatch scene
I've been casually watching owl for a while now. I really like the Justice. They may be a bit of a meme rn but they do try and they try their best in spite of it. If any of you guys see this never give up I'm sure you'll hit your stride soon.
great video, and incredibly interesting concept... i think if this could’ve been done on a larger scale and encompassed more korean and chinese fans, those teams would probably have had slightly more accurate representation overall. either way, incredible work!
This survey's sample does not make it representative of the OW population. But, this is a great indicator of relative trends. This is a lot of hard work and thanks for doing this.
I rarely comment videos but I feel like I need to tell you how amazing this video is. I feel like if the Overwatch League themselves would have done this it would be worse because of the details no one asked for but great to have. I personally don´t have a favorite team but I´d say Chengdu because of their off-meta picks during the Goats era
Really cool video. I loved seeing some of the trends: seeing that London fans liked Paris but not vice versa is very relatable as a London based Paris Eternal fan. Would also be really interesting to see why people no longer supports a team they used to. I was originally a Valiant fan but stopped supporting them as much because they traded my favourite player to their rivals, and all other players i liked left due to the leaked salary cap or otherwise (Kariv, Agil, Custa, Soon the season before) kinda of made me question how competitive they wanted to actually be
Dallas fans be like “we never catch a break”. As a Boston fan I would love to win every once and a while and actually have hope in my team to begin with
I was a Boston fan in season 1. Then they gutted the whole roster, and I don’t know why. They had a good lineup that just needed a few holes filled. It’s hard for me to be a fan of a team that changes so much
I feel that Seoul one so hard. I loved Miro and Zunba from World Cup since they got me into playing Winston and Zarya and were so amazing to watch, but when OWL didn't work out I flocked to the Shock. For me, having Americans finally do well, and having most of them be world cup champions, I got converted.
me looking at the spreadsheet and seeing that i was the only person with my favorite/second favorite combo (HZS/HOU) was not what my individuality complex needed but we love
So about location, i'm pretty sure that the korean/chinese based team and Paris have most of their fanbase in their respective countries. But since there's so few of them who watch anything in English it's hard to tell. And yeah most of the French people don't watch anything in English, but they're pretty dedicated, i remember seeing that the french stream for the summer showdown still had more than 5000 viewers at the end of the finals, which was like 5 or 6 am in EU.
Really good video. I've seen a lot of people say "if you aren't a fan of ______ team, because they lack personality, you're not trying to see their personality" which is a poor way of saying that if you don't like a team with poor marketing, it's your fault. For example, I'm sorry that London's new team was thrown together because they wanted out of the league because even after a finals win, it's not as profit-able as they hoped. Even if they continued making their videos tbh, I probably wouldn't watch them because I didn't know they had such videos in season 1 and 2 because there's a language barrier and I don't enjoy reading subtitles while watch a video or listening to a translator. And I also would still have a tough time liking the team, because their gameplay is relatively low quality. Just an extremely unmarketable team tbh. That being said, I also don't understand liking a team because they're your home team, unless it's Paris. Because that's one of the only teams with players representative of their specific region. However London is first for that and Boston is second? Why? You literally have no reason to like these teams besides, "oh it's the closest one to me" Perhaps it's because I live roughly equidistant from about 3-4 teams (4.5-6.5 hours by car) but I would much rather go watch a better match, than a worse match. For example, if I'm going to go to a Toronto homestand, I'm only going if, at that homestand, Paris and Philly play vs each other as well. Or something very similar to that. I wouldn't go to a nearby homestand to see the team who's homestand it is. I'm going for overwatch, and good overwatch. TLDR: Location, Branding, Social Media presence doesn't matter to me. Marketability (Personality/player nationality) and gameplay are important, because that's what I see as representative of the team more than anything else
I did this survey with the Charge and Spitfire as my favourite, but tbh there are like 6 teams I really like Charge- Cool colours, (admittedly fading) underdog status, great fun to watch a lot of the time, also was a Kyb fan after 2018 World Cup London- Am from UK, being a fan of this team in season 1 was one hell of a ride Toronto- Big Mangachu fan, especially after the Torb 1v1. Also Kruise is on there who I remember watching in 2017 World Cup Boston- Watching team UK beat team USA in 2018 might be my favourite Overwatch memory, so I'll always be a Fusions fan. Also pretty cool colours. Please win more. Paris- Representing EU is pretty cool, and they pop tf off. I really like how 9K proved himself this year as well, shows the Shock wasn't all Krusty Seoul- Cool colours, old London core, and I were super fun to watch last year
Props to Guangzhou for personality! This survey ( I’m assuming ) hit mostly NA fans. The fact that a team that doesn’t speak the same language can get first in personality is astonishing, especially since other teams like Shock, and Reign have more publicity
Dallas fan because i love being constantly disappointed and condtantly being given flashes of hope only for it to be bitterly crushed over and over again.
Wait, Philly are this popular? Damn I didnt expect that. As a philly fan I barely ever encounter any Philly fans anymore after i got banned from their discord server.
For some reason I missed this survey. I'm a Fusion fan because I'm a die hard Philadelphia Flyers fan, which is the bigger brother to the team. I became a Flyers fan in the 90s because of Eric Lindros and because orange is my favorite color (and I think I was 8 when I made that decision) and the Fusion carrying on the colors is very nice. I guess this counts as being a fan because of a prior organization? Over time and through internet-friendship with a bunch of Flyers fans from Philadelphia I was also more or less recruited into rooting for other sports teams from the city, despite being austrian myself. Anyway, I also liked the diversity the Fusion brought on the table, with a lot of different nationalities involved. For some time they even had an austrian player associated with them in Kabaji as a streamer. And of course carpe is awesome.
Holy shit, I’m a la gladiator fan and you got me just right. My favorite player is surefour (still is even after he left) and my second favorite team is the defiant.
I legit chose the shock as my first favorite team, because I liked their ana skin in season 1. Week 2 of stage 1 I chose houston to overtake them simply because houston was better, and I liked LiNkzr and Jake.
I remember I was deciding between Dallas and Philly before season one started cuz they were the two closest teams to me, I chose philly cuz Dallas was the most popular team in the league at the time, and look at me now crazy how times have changed
I chose the shock because the first game I watched was the 2019 stage 2 finals. The location was a bonus, and later I found out about all the personalities.
I appreciate the analysis, super interesting video. Some of this really is statistically meaningful, but 1400 is realistically a small dataset, especially with the actual questions asked. Like, when you say things like “20% of the fan base” when referring to 5 people (Titans), that is virtually meaningless. It would be interesting to see what could be found from this by somebody with a data analysis background, or what could be found with a larger data set (over a longer period of time).
I’m personally surprised the LA Gladiators didn’t place higher. I feel like they have great personality, good gameplay, and they’re overall a good team
When I started watching OWL, the first game I saw was Philly vs Glads all the way back in like Stage 1 of the first season. I didn't know anything about the teams so I picked the Glads to root for because they wore purple. After the Great Bamboozle, I've stuck with them ever since.
As a paris fan i can say that the reason why i love this team is cause i m french and having a french team in owl made me so happy that i became instantely fan. The i was a big fan of soon and fdgod/sparkle due to their performance in contenders. When paris became a top owl team i loved them also for their gameplay. I mean for me everything is so good with this team. And great vid tho
I didn’t answer cuz I didn’t notice the sheet or I woulda answered. But yes I’m a Dallas fan and I’ve been a envy fan since apex and I also have shock as my second fav team cuz like I love the personalities on that team.
Just to mention, the Dragons and Dynasty both have a bigger fanbase in Korea/China so i think they would be higher depending on fanbase (I guess you have more western fans)
Excellent and very interesting video but I'm just gonna put this here without reading the comments because I'm lazy - Western bias. Obviously as an English speaking channel the teams based in the West are going to be favoured over APAC, so the numbers will be skewed towards Western teams. Just something to think about. Edit: Divide if you read this here's another thought, it might have been interesting to add an "indifferent" or "general" option to see if anyone opts out of rooting for a team. It probably wouldn't have gained many additional votes because we all gravitate towards an option but, who knows, could have been interesting. Great video once again!
S4 pretty much got me to top 500 watching his streams. I had no choice but to root for the Glads. Also if you ever watch a Gladiators game, watch Shaz and Big Goose they're so clutch and work so well together
I can understand the Fuel fan's response at this point, I originally got into the Fuel from them having Taimou, xQc and Seagull on their roster thanks to watching them on Twitch, so I tried following Dallas primarily in S1 and the Glads because of Surefour and later Fissure. After the absolute dumpster fire that was S1 Fuel, I stuck with them (and Glads) moving into Season 2 thinking that maybe they were on the right path.....until it was pretty clear they weren't, so after watching the rise of the Shock in Stage 1 and their stonks growing with personalities (don't forget Crusty in that topic, man is a meme) and potential, I decided to get off Dallas's wild ride because there was no hope in sight and move onto a team that was looking good for wins (also because I really didn't like the Titans for some reason). Bearing in mind, I did this probably week 5, so I wouldn't exactly say full bandwagon, but maybe early bandwagon-ish, them losing the Stage 1 final sealed the deal for me though with them and I'm still here now. I got bored of the Glads quickly after Surefour left so I'm sorta into the Mayhem at the moment for 2nd pick because their socials are great, but also they seem like they've got a good group of people at the moment, and yeah, I'll admit full bandwagon with that one though. I have a friend who still follows the Fuel, but I think he's deeply wondering why he's still there at this point lmao.
Here's the full responses sheet for THE survey. Let me know if you find anything that I missed! docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1vphuPQtQevNGUfrl80LEeTcA2K6yQehpTFPMjBEsSZU/edit?usp=sharing
I feel like one thing that massively effects the results is that there wasn’t Korean or Chinese voting, if there was I feel the Chinese teams would be a lot higher ranked
You're absolutely right, unfortunately I just don't have that much reach in those areas.
@@Dividingby0 Imo, it's better to have the roughly NA/EU opinion separate from the APAC opinion, as the two communities have been rather separate from the beginning of Season 2 because of the language and forum barriers and the region split has made it even more so. That said, I wish there was an easy way to get ahold of Chinese and Korean fans' opinions from here in NA
He literally said that at 16:08 did you watch the video?
All of the chinese teams and dynasty are WAY better than half of the NA teams. Im a fusion fan tho, so NA fanboys relax.
@@agent_ad1375 i mean, half the na teams are also significantly better than the other half. Whats your point
As a Seoul fan this is far too relatable. It feels like the team becomes less popular year on year and it’s only the old Lunatic Hai supporters (like myself) and/or fans of players like Tobi or Profit that stick with the team right now. Bring back RJH :(
It's telling that last time I did a match prediction for them I just said f*** it and flipped a coin and it turned out be the correct score and win :/
They have talent but arghhhh please can you just be consistent
I left Seoul this year for Paris and Charge after jehong left :(
i liked seoul for rjh and fleta but when they got replaced by profit gesture and bdosin it kinda sucked but i thought it was doable. honestly it's been so painful being a seoul fan, like ryujekong in s1 and a lackluster performance even with a stacked roster in s2 and 3 I'm honestly thinking of switching to sfs bc I'm a super fan
@Wol Sir, I use your words as mine. I guess my original reasoning was different but I am a current Dynasty fan because for some reason I always choose teams that have potential but are destined to fail.
For me I think that it just came from them being the only Korean team in OWL - back when it started I was just "hur dur Koreans are the best" without really identifying Korean talent across the league, or rising NA talent. But I think it's just important to stick with your pick - it doesn't feel the same when a team I'm jumping on the bandwagon for (Paris) wins, but when Seoul wins big it's huge. The longer you stick by a team, the better the payoff. Looking at all the new Dragon fans with disappointment tbh. I also want to see content from them. Profit and Gesture are actually great personalities and we need more of them. At least I get to see lots of Jecse (RIP) on Outlaws YT.
"Maybe Fuel fans crave an ounce of success once in a while"
As a Dallas/Shock fan this hit way too deep.
To add to that: Shock got many of their fans due to personalities like sinatra or super. After the beloved Dallas squad of 2018 left, many people might have found in Shock what they loved about Dallas in S1.
That legday speech on Dallas struck a cord in me. Now I'm reevaluating my life choices
One day itll get better...right...?
God I hope so
@@Dividingby0 No. The Dallas cycle of disappointment cannot be broken. 😢
@@Dividingby0 they made a super team, AGAIN and they won't win a single title in season 4
At least florida isnt last anymore smile.
That comment about Dallas... Shit hits home.
I keep wanting them to do well. I've been wanting this since 2018. At least my first favorite team (Shanghai) are doing great so I have something to look forward to.
This is one of the best videos about the overwatch league, if not the best! Hope some big guys in the community share this, this deserves more views
Im Philly Fan since the first pre-season in which they didn't even play. Because no team is from my countrie i didn't know who i'd cheer for, i didn't knew a lot of player either, but after looking up all the teams and their players i spottet Carpe and Shadowburn and these were the two most important players for me, I started playing Overwatch because of Shadowburns amazing Genji (it looked so fun and i wanted to learn that too) and learned hitscan a bit later because of Carpes Gameplay and till this day i kept maining McCree and Widow
Really good work done here. I've actually learned more about the owl fan base in 20 minutes that I have over the last 3 years. I think this style of content is your niche, maybe you could tweek the surveys to answer more specific questions around a host of different topics and potentially give a genuine voice to the owl fan base. I'd answer surveys on owl all day.
Tbh you’ve got the London one spot on. I couldn’t imagine supporting another team being as I am from England, this season they’ve been tough to watch with no real big name players or experience they haven’t really given fans anything to cheer for this season and I hope they can fix this with some roster changes for next season.
totally agree. Their gameplay has been frustrating to watch, but as a Brit they're just damn lovable. Plus we have Stylosa and that counts for a lot :D
really interesting and unique video, thank u for making it. didn't see the og survey link but if ur interested, i'm a fusion fan since s1. back then i had a very narrow view of the game so i noticed the people who were good at the few heroes i played - neptuno's mercy, poko's dva and shadowburn's pharah i really enjoyed watching. since then, i've come to love the way they always keep u on the edge of ur seat (it's always map 5 in philadelphia) and carpe and alarm's MONSTROUS gameplay. and sado's redemption arc!!!!
i don't have a second favourite team but rather a small group of other teams i cheer for - nyxl, gzc, shd + outlaws.
This is a really good video, and props to you for collecting all the data and putting it all together so well. I have to say, I do wonder how the results would differ if the survey was taken from a larger grouping. The OWL RUclips Streams average well over 20k viewers even when the less popular teams are playing. I'm willing to bet that there would be similar results, but it is food for thought.
Absolute madman, putting in mad work for all of us. Thank you king
this is such an amazing video wow, you did such an insane job
11:30 I'm guessing the 10% social media fans score for the Valiant is in majority a result of Gamer Snacks but I could be wrong
Valiants twitter has been popping off as of recently as well
valiant and dragons are the only two teams im subbed to on youtube there content is good
The survey being in english is a real disadvantage for the Paris Eternal.
The french cast has good numbers, and 95% of them are diehard Paris fans.
No not really,everyone understands a bit English.
@@Mlgfutter you cant even reply in english
attakaii yes I didn’t say I speak English
attakaii Btw it’s not my first language
finally i have been waiting for this vid for over a month now
2:24
Right there I clicked the sub button so unbelievably fast. You just don’t see this type of dedication from many RUclipsrs anymore
"Why would you root for the Justice when the Fusion or the NYXL are a reasonable distance away?"
Well, first there are some SERIOUS rivalries between D.C., Philly, NYC, and Boston. My brother hasn't forgiven Bryce Harper for moving from the Nationals to the Phillies. Second, who else is the mid-Atlantic supposed to root for?! There's no one to cheer on between Washington and Atlanta, so guess where many people from Maryland, Delaware, Virginia, and North Carolina are going to put their support.
Yeah as someone from the East coast hearing him say that made me laugh. Philly and NY can't get along and they're practically on top of each other. Washington is like another country to us.
Hit the nail on the head with this one
The closest team to Michigan is Philadelphia :(
as a NC fan it was never DC with the boring patriotic branding tbh besides atlanta is equal distance abouts
You also have to consider that Washington was an expansion team. In season 1, the East Coast had NYXL, Philly, and Boston, *all 3 of which* made the playoffs that year (and Florida, but they were garbage), so you had ample choice on the East Coast. Those original loyalties, even if Washington became the closest team to them geographically once Season 2 came around, stick, and it doesn't help that Washington was a dumpster fire for the season's first 3 stages
Dude. I barely like videos, but damn. I want to make new accounts to like this video so you get at least a little back for this effort.
Thank you so much!
i can just aggree with that. thats so much effort you put into one fucking video.
thanks, enjoyed it a lot ^^
I love the LEGDAY bit about the Fuel. Great video and amazing number crunching. I could never do this so I'm impressed. Good job Dividing!!
Thank you!
Great video man, this was super entertaining and i respect all the effort u put into this
Shoutout to Charge fans being "me, an intellectual."
Thank you Dividing! Once again you have made an amazing video with clear effort put into it. I really enjoyed the watch even though i missed the survey! My votes wouldve been Paris and then either the Spark or the Dragons for anime or for the 0-40 Stage 1. Great content, keep it up!
Props for the shear amount of effort put into this.
It’s amazing. Thank you
"The French have always been known as a very passionate fanbase in overwatch"
I think you mean in LITERALLY ANYTHING EVER!
#RememberLunaticHai #RememberAPEX
Owwc 2018 paris group stage
Don’t forget when Team Paris was the first to beat South Korea, the French exploded after that
Great video. These results show one thing. If you win, the fans will come (and hopefully stick around). Rings true for every single sport.
I was not expecting this level of content out of this video. Extremely interesting stats. I hope you do this again someday.
Dammit, wish I knew this survey was going on I would have loved to have contributed :( maybe next time it would be nice to have a video announcing the survey on here? I don't really look at social media channels of RUclipsrs I follow ^^;
Same, a video with a link in the description would've improved the turnout.
Also, I would've been able to unironically put Boston solely because of Jerry.
I really love wachting your content but this video was something else like whole sh*t this was one of the best videos i watched this year for sure.
I know it would be even more work but im sure many people would love to see a similiar survey done for most popular player. maybe dont go into specifis and just list all player idk but i sure would like to see that.
Appreciate the work keep it up mate
I completely forgot I did that survey.
The fuel bit hurt a little. I’m just like a majority of the respondents there. I got into overwatch as a whole by watching Envy in Apex, so I followed them into the league. I question my loyalty every game, but just keep coming back.
no way you could - YES.
god i love this channel
very cool analysis! I'm interested to check out those tables later
You really also have to take into account the fact that the APAC teams are from a different part of the world and have more fans there
When you said nyxl fans are likely to be shock fans too i was so surprised cuz its exactly me
Same lmao, i didnt expect that
I think one of the reason Fusion might've had player origin as a big plus might also be because Poko is hugely popular in the French/ French talking overwatch scene
the amount of work in this video holy shit🔥 respect for this much dedication
I've been casually watching owl for a while now. I really like the Justice. They may be a bit of a meme rn but they do try and they try their best in spite of it. If any of you guys see this never give up I'm sure you'll hit your stride soon.
You should do another one of these during season 4
great video, and incredibly interesting concept... i think if this could’ve been done on a larger scale and encompassed more korean and chinese fans, those teams would probably have had slightly more accurate representation overall. either way, incredible work!
This survey's sample does not make it representative of the OW population. But, this is a great indicator of relative trends. This is a lot of hard work and thanks for doing this.
What a nice video man
I rarely comment videos but I feel like I need to tell you how amazing this video is. I feel like if the Overwatch League themselves would have done this it would be worse because of the details no one asked for but great to have. I personally don´t have a favorite team but I´d say Chengdu because of their off-meta picks during the Goats era
Really cool video. I loved seeing some of the trends: seeing that London fans liked Paris but not vice versa is very relatable as a London based Paris Eternal fan.
Would also be really interesting to see why people no longer supports a team they used to. I was originally a Valiant fan but stopped supporting them as much because they traded my favourite player to their rivals, and all other players i liked left due to the leaked salary cap or otherwise (Kariv, Agil, Custa, Soon the season before) kinda of made me question how competitive they wanted to actually be
Dallas fans be like “we never catch a break”. As a Boston fan I would love to win every once and a while and actually have hope in my team to begin with
Yeah y’all lose 3-0 to contenders players.
I was a Boston fan in season 1. Then they gutted the whole roster, and I don’t know why. They had a good lineup that just needed a few holes filled. It’s hard for me to be a fan of a team that changes so much
how on earth did the sfs not have the best social media following?
Well done on all the hard work in this video, saw my response in the scrolling
I feel that Seoul one so hard. I loved Miro and Zunba from World Cup since they got me into playing Winston and Zarya and were so amazing to watch, but when OWL didn't work out I flocked to the Shock. For me, having Americans finally do well, and having most of them be world cup champions, I got converted.
Wow, this is f*cking amazing!!!
This is a great video idea! Glad to see you are being creative and doing what you want!
Thank you!
Most times when i think why i like a team i alsways think to season 1 stuff, nostalgia makes things seem greater
Can we Dallas Fans catch a break? No.
me looking at the spreadsheet and seeing that i was the only person with my favorite/second favorite combo (HZS/HOU) was not what my individuality complex needed but we love
Amazing video really interesting, thank you
So about location, i'm pretty sure that the korean/chinese based team and Paris have most of their fanbase in their respective countries. But since there's so few of them who watch anything in English it's hard to tell.
And yeah most of the French people don't watch anything in English, but they're pretty dedicated, i remember seeing that the french stream for the summer showdown still had more than 5000 viewers at the end of the finals, which was like 5 or 6 am in EU.
I wonder would this change next year and it will be easy to see how many people in the community just bandwagon
Thank you for taking the time to do all of this. #1 Florida #2 chengdu here btw
I wonder how many of those Dallas answers have changed since then.
Those guys have been through a lot. I doubt this was the breaking point for most of them.
@@Dividingby0 had they not dropped Aero, I would have predicted a mass exodus of Dallas fans switching teams.
@@PhoneHalHome yep this would've been me
Would you like to do that kind of video with players as well?
Seconded
I'm guessing super would be at 1
Really good video. I've seen a lot of people say "if you aren't a fan of ______ team, because they lack personality, you're not trying to see their personality" which is a poor way of saying that if you don't like a team with poor marketing, it's your fault. For example, I'm sorry that London's new team was thrown together because they wanted out of the league because even after a finals win, it's not as profit-able as they hoped. Even if they continued making their videos tbh, I probably wouldn't watch them because I didn't know they had such videos in season 1 and 2 because there's a language barrier and I don't enjoy reading subtitles while watch a video or listening to a translator. And I also would still have a tough time liking the team, because their gameplay is relatively low quality. Just an extremely unmarketable team tbh. That being said, I also don't understand liking a team because they're your home team, unless it's Paris. Because that's one of the only teams with players representative of their specific region. However London is first for that and Boston is second? Why? You literally have no reason to like these teams besides, "oh it's the closest one to me" Perhaps it's because I live roughly equidistant from about 3-4 teams (4.5-6.5 hours by car) but I would much rather go watch a better match, than a worse match. For example, if I'm going to go to a Toronto homestand, I'm only going if, at that homestand, Paris and Philly play vs each other as well. Or something very similar to that. I wouldn't go to a nearby homestand to see the team who's homestand it is. I'm going for overwatch, and good overwatch.
TLDR: Location, Branding, Social Media presence doesn't matter to me. Marketability (Personality/player nationality) and gameplay are important, because that's what I see as representative of the team more than anything else
I did this survey with the Charge and Spitfire as my favourite, but tbh there are like 6 teams I really like
Charge- Cool colours, (admittedly fading) underdog status, great fun to watch a lot of the time, also was a Kyb fan after 2018 World Cup
London- Am from UK, being a fan of this team in season 1 was one hell of a ride
Toronto- Big Mangachu fan, especially after the Torb 1v1. Also Kruise is on there who I remember watching in 2017 World Cup
Boston- Watching team UK beat team USA in 2018 might be my favourite Overwatch memory, so I'll always be a Fusions fan. Also pretty cool colours. Please win more.
Paris- Representing EU is pretty cool, and they pop tf off. I really like how 9K proved himself this year as well, shows the Shock wasn't all Krusty
Seoul- Cool colours, old London core, and I were super fun to watch last year
The western-ness of your audience would definitely affect the results. Great video!
Seoul fan here, I have not yet recovered from losing Jehong, I know it has been awhile, still hurts. Nice to see Fleta thriving tho
Props to Guangzhou for personality! This survey ( I’m assuming ) hit mostly NA fans. The fact that a team that doesn’t speak the same language can get first in personality is astonishing, especially since other teams like Shock, and Reign have more publicity
Dallas fan because i love being constantly disappointed and condtantly being given flashes of hope only for it to be bitterly crushed over and over again.
And here I was thinking I was unique having Philly and Paris as my respective first and second favourite teams.
definitely shock for their personalities like Super and then chengdu for their ball play
I'm surprised you didn't mention Outlaws in dead last in social media. Kinda shows how that alone can ruin their image by quite a lot.
good to see i contributed to the total of 24 people that voted spark
Wait, Philly are this popular? Damn I didnt expect that. As a philly fan I barely ever encounter any Philly fans anymore after i got banned from their discord server.
How'd you get banned?
Tbh I’ve always liked Philly since season one vs London and when fury moved and you have like 3 uk players it’s 100% my second favourite team
Great video mate
this is one of the colonist things i have ever seen so thank you for time doing this
For some reason I missed this survey.
I'm a Fusion fan because I'm a die hard Philadelphia Flyers fan, which is the bigger brother to the team. I became a Flyers fan in the 90s because of Eric Lindros and because orange is my favorite color (and I think I was 8 when I made that decision) and the Fusion carrying on the colors is very nice. I guess this counts as being a fan because of a prior organization? Over time and through internet-friendship with a bunch of Flyers fans from Philadelphia I was also more or less recruited into rooting for other sports teams from the city, despite being austrian myself. Anyway, I also liked the diversity the Fusion brought on the table, with a lot of different nationalities involved. For some time they even had an austrian player associated with them in Kabaji as a streamer. And of course carpe is awesome.
Holy shit, I’m a la gladiator fan and you got me just right. My favorite player is surefour (still is even after he left) and my second favorite team is the defiant.
The ode to Dallas killed me. I hope you're doing well, anonymous Dallas fan.
I legit chose the shock as my first favorite team, because I liked their ana skin in season 1. Week 2 of stage 1 I chose houston to overtake them simply because houston was better, and I liked LiNkzr and Jake.
My 2 favorite teams took the first and last spot. #ShockTheWorld #JusticeIsServed
I'm a Dallas fan. It is impossible for me to like any other team more than Fuel. "F*ck."
Very nice, didn’t consider lots of stuff you did
I remember I was deciding between Dallas and Philly before season one started cuz they were the two closest teams to me, I chose philly cuz Dallas was the most popular team in the league at the time, and look at me now crazy how times have changed
I chose the shock because the first game I watched was the 2019 stage 2 finals. The location was a bonus, and later I found out about all the personalities.
7:04 Too soon man, too soon
I appreciate the analysis, super interesting video.
Some of this really is statistically meaningful, but 1400 is realistically a small dataset, especially with the actual questions asked. Like, when you say things like “20% of the fan base” when referring to 5 people (Titans), that is virtually meaningless.
It would be interesting to see what could be found from this by somebody with a data analysis background, or what could be found with a larger data set (over a longer period of time).
Honestly it’s sad how the number one owl/ow streamer only averages about 5k viewers compared to back in the good ol days when multiple people had 10k+
I’m personally surprised the LA Gladiators didn’t place higher. I feel like they have great personality, good gameplay, and they’re overall a good team
When I started watching OWL, the first game I saw was Philly vs Glads all the way back in like Stage 1 of the first season. I didn't know anything about the teams so I picked the Glads to root for because they wore purple. After the Great Bamboozle, I've stuck with them ever since.
So, one thing that stands out is: people like to cheer for the best team...
As a paris fan i can say that the reason why i love this team is cause i m french and having a french team in owl made me so happy that i became instantely fan.
The i was a big fan of soon and fdgod/sparkle due to their performance in contenders.
When paris became a top owl team i loved them also for their gameplay.
I mean for me everything is so good with this team.
And great vid tho
I didn’t answer cuz I didn’t notice the sheet or I woulda answered. But yes I’m a Dallas fan and I’ve been a envy fan since apex and I also have shock as my second fav team cuz like I love the personalities on that team.
Just to mention, the Dragons and Dynasty both have a bigger fanbase in Korea/China so i think they would be higher depending on fanbase (I guess you have more western fans)
I refuse to believe the ode to Dallas wasn’t anyone other than zeruhh
Seoul fan here, because the first pro overwatch game I saw was SK vs Netherlands in World Cup 2017 and Jehong hit crazy sleep darts.
Excellent and very interesting video but I'm just gonna put this here without reading the comments because I'm lazy - Western bias. Obviously as an English speaking channel the teams based in the West are going to be favoured over APAC, so the numbers will be skewed towards Western teams. Just something to think about.
Edit: Divide if you read this here's another thought, it might have been interesting to add an "indifferent" or "general" option to see if anyone opts out of rooting for a team. It probably wouldn't have gained many additional votes because we all gravitate towards an option but, who knows, could have been interesting. Great video once again!
S4 pretty much got me to top 500 watching his streams. I had no choice but to root for the Glads. Also if you ever watch a Gladiators game, watch Shaz and Big Goose they're so clutch and work so well together
The 1st game I ever watched was rouge vs envy and I loved watching that golden dive
Did anyone mention Gamsu and Note for Dallas? As a (former) Boston fan, I would root for Dallas if they weren't terrible.
Maybe you can do more of these?
I can understand the Fuel fan's response at this point, I originally got into the Fuel from them having Taimou, xQc and Seagull on their roster thanks to watching them on Twitch, so I tried following Dallas primarily in S1 and the Glads because of Surefour and later Fissure. After the absolute dumpster fire that was S1 Fuel, I stuck with them (and Glads) moving into Season 2 thinking that maybe they were on the right path.....until it was pretty clear they weren't, so after watching the rise of the Shock in Stage 1 and their stonks growing with personalities (don't forget Crusty in that topic, man is a meme) and potential, I decided to get off Dallas's wild ride because there was no hope in sight and move onto a team that was looking good for wins (also because I really didn't like the Titans for some reason). Bearing in mind, I did this probably week 5, so I wouldn't exactly say full bandwagon, but maybe early bandwagon-ish, them losing the Stage 1 final sealed the deal for me though with them and I'm still here now. I got bored of the Glads quickly after Surefour left so I'm sorta into the Mayhem at the moment for 2nd pick because their socials are great, but also they seem like they've got a good group of people at the moment, and yeah, I'll admit full bandwagon with that one though. I have a friend who still follows the Fuel, but I think he's deeply wondering why he's still there at this point lmao.