Why Your Rifle Groups Are Erratic, Inconsistent, and Shifting Around

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  • Опубликовано: 26 дек 2024

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  • @frankbrowning328
    @frankbrowning328 7 месяцев назад +15

    Every year shortly before deer season I have people come to me with issues getting on target and erratic accuracy. It is amazing how many are solved with basic screw tightening. Loose stock & action screws, scope bases and scope rings are incredibly common. Broken low quality scopes are the #2 item I see. #3 Lack of familiarity with their gun due to lack of practice causes inconsistent holds which creates inconsistent impacts. Those 3 items are just for regular Joe deer hunters. In order to compete with a rifle, you need to pay attention to the items in this video and everything else that can cause inconsistency

    • @Honkers716
      @Honkers716 7 месяцев назад +3

      Do they come to you with tears in their eyes? 😅

    • @frankbrowning328
      @frankbrowning328 7 месяцев назад +1

      Sometimes & always with the words "I don’t know what happened. It was fine last time I used it" Regardless of the excuse, I still fix them.

    • @Kartyman550
      @Kartyman550 7 месяцев назад +3

      Guys like you are the best. I was handed a 7mm remington Savage axis to go sight in for a family member. Spent hours trying every trick in the book to zero it and nada. I finally decide to google the scope and it was a $200 scope designed for a rimfire application...

    • @frankbrowning328
      @frankbrowning328 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@Kartyman550 I run in to that often. Then I hear "the guy said it was bore sited" The guy could be anyone and many times it is a scope designed for a rimfire or airgun. Then they wonder why it doesnt hold up on a .308, 270, 7mm Mag, etc.

    • @MDTTAC
      @MDTTAC  7 месяцев назад +1

      Yep, very important to check all you screws before going out.

  • @kochj0713
    @kochj0713 Месяц назад +1

    Well, the first ever fully bolt action Matic gun ever seen

  • @rekire___
    @rekire___ 7 месяцев назад +25

    Recoil 404 not found

  • @TacticoolVIKINGBeard
    @TacticoolVIKINGBeard 7 месяцев назад +2

    My dad bought a rifle several years ago and had a hell of a time with it where no matter what he did the rifle just wasnt grouping. Somehow there was something up with the barrel (some sort of inner crack during the manufacturing process i believe it was found) that caused it to shoot erratically do the fix was a new barrel.

  • @jaredandrews379
    @jaredandrews379 7 месяцев назад +4

    Yup been there. The most frustrating thing ever. Total confidence crusher lol

  • @thedude1368
    @thedude1368 7 месяцев назад +36

    Holy shit a full auto bolt action rifle, how much!? Lol

    • @shawngrays9087
      @shawngrays9087 7 месяцев назад +1

      You beat me to it, that's the fastest ever BG I have ever witnessed

    • @mk84ldb
      @mk84ldb 7 месяцев назад +1

      Holds 100s of bullets in the clip also

    • @joesashiify
      @joesashiify 7 месяцев назад +3

      That or he has godlike speed & you can't see him loading every round.

    • @commenter4799
      @commenter4799 7 месяцев назад +1

      It's a legendary mod.

    • @Xiox321
      @Xiox321 7 месяцев назад

      He just has a really fast bolt cycle.

  • @xtremearmor
    @xtremearmor 7 месяцев назад +3

    I sure do enjoy y’all’s videos. Great content 👍🏻

  • @mikess308
    @mikess308 7 месяцев назад +2

    Weve had multiple issues with the turret caps coming just loose enough in our NF scopes that youll get a click but it also bypasses 1 or 2. By the time some guys stop chasing their rounds with adjustments, their zero is lost. Also, The scope mounts are by far the most common issue with guys chasing zero

    • @MDTTAC
      @MDTTAC  7 месяцев назад +1

      Yep, those loose cap screws make a huge difference

  • @Syntax_Error_404
    @Syntax_Error_404 7 месяцев назад +6

    Who else checked all their screws after watching this video? 😅

  • @robertvandell8987
    @robertvandell8987 7 месяцев назад +4

    and the scope does not have to be broken either. if you bought a rifle with a pre mounted scope and cannot shoot reasonably tight groups for your experience level, the scope could be mounted badly. badly = rings not lapped inline well or not at all , badly = scope not screwed into the rings a proper bolt sequence to avoid warping the scope tube. scope is toast after that. baddest badly = scope got taken from another "on sale" rifle rings still attached.. major ugh.... scope lapping kit is well worth the price, in ammo savings if not frustration. target shooting should be fun. its the original point n click sport ya know..

    • @MDTTAC
      @MDTTAC  7 месяцев назад

      Fair point too

  • @sRagnar
    @sRagnar 6 месяцев назад +1

    Вот идея для следующего эксперимента - это будет очень очень полезно для всех! Покажите как влияют ошибки стрелка на точность попадания. Напряжения в теле, положение приклада в плече, разное давление щеки, разное положение стреляющей руки на рукояти и пальца на спуске, возможно что то еще. Все слышали, но мало кто понимает как это работает.

  • @charlesmullins3238
    @charlesmullins3238 7 месяцев назад +2

    Yep…my bottom metal screw on waypoint needs loctite cause I learned this the hard way..

  • @sdwndr66
    @sdwndr66 7 месяцев назад +1

    Can changing your firing pin on your AR change your impact of scope or red dot?

    • @DefZen343
      @DefZen343 7 месяцев назад

      no, you will not notice a difference. you also wont notice alot of things with a 2moa red dot.

    • @sdwndr66
      @sdwndr66 7 месяцев назад

      @DefZen343 for 7 year's I've used it on same weapon,I was once a unit armorer,we never ran into this situation. The red dot I used passed 7 year's was hitting my mark out to 300yards easily, and I could hold over for longer shots,never missed. The last time out, I couldn't hit anything? I checked all equipment, nothing abnormal. Other than firing pin was mushrooming on the pin stop(both faces/sides) behind the hammer impact . So I replaced it, can't get on paper at even 50 yards. Next time out I'll use 4'x4' paper at 25,50 then 100 yards to see what's going on. I'll find it, when there is a problem I always do. I just thunk if someone else had this, they may share

    • @DefZen343
      @DefZen343 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@sdwndr66 if you are completely off target that means your optic lost zero, very little can wear out enough to get you completely off target at 50 yards, even your barrel. check all the screws and mounts with a torque wrench, rezero, if it wanders again your optic might need to be sent in for repairs. ive had budget optics lose zero after similar number of years of use.

    • @sdwndr66
      @sdwndr66 7 месяцев назад +1

      @DefZen343 I did find the optic base was actually twisted(was not sitting flush, base somehow got bent...) I do not recall dropping it. New base installed and now ready for re-zeroing.

  • @iamsomebodynobody
    @iamsomebodynobody 6 месяцев назад

    I wonder what could cause a 6 Dasher suddenly opens up from half MOA group to 1-1.5MOA group at 100? Checked the ACC chassis, Ckye-pod, Era-Tac scope mount and scope etc. cleaned barrel, still the same load, only about 800-900rounds for barrel, couldn't figure out anything.

    • @MDTTAC
      @MDTTAC  6 месяцев назад

      Was there any change in the lot of powder you were using or anything during reloading?

    • @iamsomebodynobody
      @iamsomebodynobody 6 месяцев назад

      @@MDTTAC All from the same lot, MV is about the same range. I wonder if it has anything to do with seating depth. It was 108ELD, and I measured the lands again using a different method, but I don't expect such a big change in therms of group size.

  • @linkchen8245
    @linkchen8245 7 месяцев назад +1

    3:50 extremely quick group = meme worthy

  • @joshmajor8662
    @joshmajor8662 Месяц назад

    EVERYTHING you mentioned was wrong for me Lol my problem was 22LR range ammo at 100 yards haha 😂 I wanted half dollar, quarter size groups. I was getting 2-4 MOA 🤷‍♂️

  • @Mysticlambo
    @Mysticlambo 2 месяца назад

    what is that first song playing in the background? cool video by the way. Im trying to narrow down if my scope rings arent torqued enough at 15 because my groups vary a bit. No spec given. Anyway, could just be the budget gun.

    • @MDTTAC
      @MDTTAC  2 месяца назад

      Which measurement are you torquing them at?

    • @Mysticlambo
      @Mysticlambo 2 месяца назад

      @@MDTTAC 15 inch pounds with a fatwrench. theyre cheap konus one piece mounts tho. Any word on what that soundtrack is? I like it, feels nostalgic in a way..

  • @mr.redefined6010
    @mr.redefined6010 4 месяца назад

    What spotting scope phone mount do you use?

  • @kochj0713
    @kochj0713 Месяц назад

    Should show what it’s like to have a scope torque at about 15inch pounds versus 30inch pounds … mine was moving didn’t even know it

  • @HendoSam
    @HendoSam 6 месяцев назад

    What’s the shock cord looking thing on the bottom of your ocular lens going towards the level?

    • @MDTTAC
      @MDTTAC  6 месяцев назад +1

      It attaches to your LRA so you can see the level lights on the scope and not have to move your head

    • @HendoSam
      @HendoSam 6 месяцев назад

      Where can I get one? I tried googling it but couldn’t find one.

    • @MDTTAC
      @MDTTAC  6 месяцев назад

      You can check out the Brandt Built website

  • @Darthmallxyz36
    @Darthmallxyz36 7 месяцев назад

    What is the adapter you have on your gun holding your Garmin xero c1 ?

    • @MDTTAC
      @MDTTAC  7 месяцев назад +2

      Area 419 clamp

  • @docjamesjdjd
    @docjamesjdjd 7 месяцев назад +2

    Wow, a full auto bolt action, I love it. Don't tell the demo's about this video or they'll say they need to ban all bolt guns. Lol

  • @wdtriplett
    @wdtriplett 7 месяцев назад

    I like how you edited the firing sequences TRex Arms style. Anyone can shoot fast with a video editor.

  • @austinatchison3716
    @austinatchison3716 7 месяцев назад +1

    I’d love to see this done with a hunting weight rifle … using a full custom chassis gun with low recoil is about best case senario for something a little loose what would happen with a 8 lb 300 win mag especially when you only have one shot per target

    • @MDTTAC
      @MDTTAC  7 месяцев назад

      We can look into this

  • @halcon2134
    @halcon2134 7 месяцев назад +1

    With a level it would be better, the lateral inclination affects a lot.

    • @MDTTAC
      @MDTTAC  7 месяцев назад

      Are you referring to having a level on the rifle?

  • @Jeds-vg8ru
    @Jeds-vg8ru 7 месяцев назад +3

    Jerry Miculek eat your heart out

    • @MannyGunzz
      @MannyGunzz 7 месяцев назад

      Never, Jerry can hit dead center with rifle upside down😂

  • @davidsalsedo
    @davidsalsedo 5 месяцев назад

    Great video. Moral of the story here is like a Good women, Good guns are forgiving. Treat them well and you’ll be blessed and don’t waste your time on a high maintenance pain in the ass because life is too short to worry about if her screw is loose today!!

  • @shirleyk6009
    @shirleyk6009 7 месяцев назад

    How are shooting in semi auto when it’s a bolt action I watched your shots very close I can see your scope moving

    • @MDTTAC
      @MDTTAC  7 месяцев назад +1

      It is not, it was how the video was edited

  • @Yeoman7
    @Yeoman7 7 месяцев назад +1

    Why do you have a red dot on your bolt gun? Not a criticism, just curiosity.

    • @Jtmorrison2000
      @Jtmorrison2000 7 месяцев назад +2

      They’ve got a video on it. Short of it is for finding targets at 1x

    • @NiteQwill_
      @NiteQwill_ 7 месяцев назад +2

      To find targets without dialing back magnification.

    • @MDTTAC
      @MDTTAC  7 месяцев назад +1

      It helps with faster target acquisition

  • @wesleyjamison4442
    @wesleyjamison4442 7 месяцев назад +1

    Great video! Nice semiautomatic bolt action. 🤣🤣

  • @samuelmarak2327
    @samuelmarak2327 7 месяцев назад

    do they even support ars?

  • @englishrifleman6556
    @englishrifleman6556 7 месяцев назад

    what red dot is that on that rifle? looks like a great fit

    • @MDTTAC
      @MDTTAC  7 месяцев назад +1

      Vortex RD

    • @englishrifleman6556
      @englishrifleman6556 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@MDTTAC Thank you. Keep up the great work

    • @MDTTAC
      @MDTTAC  7 месяцев назад

      You're welcome and we will make sure to keep them coming

  • @RoyCoughler
    @RoyCoughler 7 месяцев назад

    Where'd you get them targets?

    • @MDTTAC
      @MDTTAC  7 месяцев назад +1

      Here is the link: www.reliablegun.com/reliable-gun-targets-true-moa-18x24-calibrated-for-100-yards-20-pack-version-4

  • @anubis8680
    @anubis8680 7 месяцев назад

    1:05 Full auto Bolt Action!!!! 🤣

  • @Yeoman7
    @Yeoman7 7 месяцев назад

    Someone show Rod Giltaca this video! LOL

  • @joshmajor8662
    @joshmajor8662 Месяц назад +1

    That song was painful to listen to Lol 😂🤮

  • @charliegipplecfpcluchfc9533
    @charliegipplecfpcluchfc9533 6 месяцев назад

    Must have a bump stock on it. 😂

  • @DLN-ix6vf
    @DLN-ix6vf 2 месяца назад

    I see your chin rest is almost flat ? why so flat ?

  • @josephhomen
    @josephhomen Месяц назад

    Good video. Terrible “music”

  • @shirleyk6009
    @shirleyk6009 7 месяцев назад

    Dam poor shooting

  • @thelittledetailscr7231
    @thelittledetailscr7231 7 месяцев назад +1

    Erratic, inconsistent, and shifting around all mean the same thing. lol.

    • @Xiox321
      @Xiox321 7 месяцев назад

      Gotta get that SEO!

  • @timmy101able
    @timmy101able 7 месяцев назад

    You flagged yourself 8 times

  • @JM10344
    @JM10344 7 месяцев назад

    I spent $2,400 with another company because of your rude comments. Not your company, not your RUclips channel. Not your place to speak YOUR mind.

    • @MDTTAC
      @MDTTAC  7 месяцев назад +1

      We are sorry to hear this, which comments in particular were you concerned with?

    • @RickySandoval86
      @RickySandoval86 5 месяцев назад

      @MDTTAC this dude is a schizo hater that's been shit talking the channel for years and still comes back to watch. Don't worry lol