The Art of White Noise: Andy Wallace Snare Drum Reverb Techniques
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How Andy Wallace developed his signature snare drum reverb using white noise, gates, and harmonizers.
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Dude where are you getting these tricks from???
This is the best explanation I've heard of the Andy Wallace trick. I thought he really was just replacing the snare 😂
Thanks!! Honestly, I've had a lot of this info for 25+ years, but never really thought about explaining or demonstrating them until now. Kind of blown away by the great response!
@ looking forward to more dude!
Dude you're the best... Never stop making videos please!! God Bless
Thanks so much!!
I believe back in the 80s there was a hardware unit that triggered white noise for this trick. For us, in our budget world back then, we would set a small portable TV to a channel that didn't pick up any station, so it would just be white noise, and we would put a crap mic on the tv speaker and gate that.
@@In_Set I love that! Very cool.
Just discovered your channel. I’ve been chasing Andy Wallace and Mutt Lange sounds my entire career and this is an amazing resource. Thanks for the great info!
@@millerlightmoose oh I’ve got some Mutt/Mike Shipley stuff on the way!! Thanks for watching!
No wonder, Andy is my favorite engineer!!
Great video, JP. Been doing white noise on snare for years but have not tried de-tuning - super cool stuff. Will give this a shot on an upcoming mix.
Automating/riding aux sends is something that I found to be remarkably useful.
@@tekis0 absolutely!!
Crazy, I am researching his mixing techniques since years and have not come across this particular one. Always thought the snare samples were the actual snare sound
Thank you for sharing this
Happy to help!
I should also add that it’s been around for a while that people use ambient samples to drive verbs but it’s never even demonstrated so clearly to what degree one can manipulate and control the effect in different ways.
Simply using sample libraries an and presets is great and efficient but understanding how it works behind the scene, as shown in this video, is the key to someone carving their own path and having their own sound
@@AA_MusicGuy1111 man, I’m so glad that comes across in the video!! I’m a big proponent of understanding where ideas came from in the first place.
Stumbled on these vids. Just brilliant!
Thanks for watching!
Thank you, got it. ⭐️
I love Wallace and this was great - thanks!
@@siriusfun thanks for watching!
These are really great man, you have a great way of explaining where you're very quick but it's not hard to follow and it doesn't seem like you're overexplaining.
Thanks so much! Really appreciate that
This is a gem thank you
Thanks for watching!
Love the channel my man !
Glad to hear it!
Really cool trick! Going to try and use this in my live setups.
Just found the channel killer tips man thanks !!
Your welcome!
sick! instant sub & 👍
Your voice is weirdly soothing.
Well thanks!! haha
Thank you so much for sharing all these knowledge!
Your welcome! Thanks for watching!
@ can you advise which pitch shifters can I use in lieu of the eventide one?
@@edwardkenemorales The stock Protools pitch shifter isn't bad, a little grainy compared to H949 but it will get the job done for sure! Nothing really smooths out the noise like the Eventide though, might need to EQ it a little.
@@JPHenryAudio Thanks so much! I hope you can do one for the Kick Drums as well. I think Andy does a similar thing for the kick?
Excellent!
Glad you liked it!
I bought a Yamaha spx 90 just for Andy’s bass trick and it’s worth it. Will be cool to see how u do this in the 📦
Very cool! All of those old toys have a character of their own.
Sounds great man! There’s a few plugins like Harrison Drum Flow that will generate keyed noise which can be nice when in a rush. Also another fun idea is to trigger electronic samples (claps, etc) into that reverb and should be loads of fun as well.
I haven’t tried Drum Flow, but I’ll have to look into it! Thanks!
@@JPHenryAudio I'm not sure if it's that important tbh but it was the first one that came to mind with a noise gen. Great videos man keep it up. I could listen to you talking about compression all day lol
You sir! You really know what you are doing! Killer channel and content. Would LOVE to hear more about dream theater and caveman. Must have been six degrees?
Thanks!! Yep, I was an engineer on the tracking for 6-7 months or so. Caveman mixed, wish I could've spent more time with him but still learned a few things.
Subscribed!
Love this!!!
De nada!!
thankyou so much man you are such a life savere a life saver
Thanks again!!
Thanks!
Your welcome!
Cool technique, i do this all the time with the Erosion/Texture clone i made inside Bitwig.
Nice!!
Damn the levels are hot on all his channels
@@sweetspike in the immortal words of Jason Corsaro, “Red doesn’t mean bad, red means MORE!!!!!”
@@JPHenryAudio Indeed! In the days of tape the saying was "Redder is better!"
Hi J.P. maybe just lack of coffee on my side 😊I am just wondering wasn't his trick to send the white noise bursts to the reverb? Here it seems you are sending the gated snare to the room reverb? And then the white noise goes to the mixbuss? And chamber seems so? I really apologize for the dumb question but the video is amazing and I would like to be sure I get the routing clear. Thanks a bunch again for great content! Please keep it up!
@@myyt4382 gated snare & white noise both go to tiled room reverb send, not mixbus. The blend of the two will vary to taste. Almost everything gets a touch of chamber as the “band in the room” reverb, which I don’t mention but should have. Thanks for watching & asking!
Btw. The toms sound great on this as well. Is there a video planned on Toms as well? 😅
Thanks! I could def do some tom stuff, thanks for the suggestion!
@@JPHenryAudio Yes. Just... yes. lol
I dont recally Andy demonstrating most of this in his mix woth the masters videos. He did have a snare sample with built in reverb that he stated he was using for abience. It my opinion it was slightly more than just ambience. I was surprised that his sample sounds nothing like a steven slate type sample. I recall it was fairly artificial sounding.
I haven't watched that full video, but the samples I remember hearing from him were created like this, both with & without the Tiled Room reverb trail on them. I'm sure he has more options depending on what the project calls for, but agree they're nothing like conventional samples at all.
Great video!
Hard to follow your mouse cursor...
Thanks! I'll see what I can do to improve on that, thanks for the feedback!
I get a very similar result, just using the gated reverb of a SPX 90. Which is of course not available as a plugin, you need the actual device.
@@kaiulrich6185 makes sense! Similar era & technology as a PCM70
@ not only that. The character of that „Phil Collins gated reverb“, which as far as I know, is not available on any plugin, also replaces the white noise.
check out the SSL LMC+ plugin, it's supposed to nail the talkback mic compression... haven't tried it myself yet
I tried this in Logic, but the noise generator on an aux track only recognizes the input signal of the side chain. The output remains constant and overrides the gate. A PT only trick?
@@Drefue2 you want the key input, not side chain. keying a gate is a pretty basic feature, there’s gotta be a way in Logic. I don’t have it to try. Any good gate should have this ability.
Fabfilter Gate
hmm, i don't have that harmonizer plugin. what else would do that part of it?
any type of pitch shifter will work, the stock PT pitch shifter plugin is fine
A low pass filter will give you tighter control for shaping the white noise.
So you send the Snare 3 times in a reverb unit?
No, only the third copy is feeding the Tiled Room reverb & triggering the white noise. The first two are in the full mix, like our last video.
@@JPHenryAudio and the white noise is going into the reverb?
@ yep, it’s only going to Bus 1, the Tiled room send. Same as Snare copy 3.
I think you could pull this off with Magic7 reverb it's 0$
I'll check that out, thanks!
I always set this gated noise thing up when the drummer is nowhere in sight. Save myself an unnecessary argument.
Guerilla Engineering 101, do it when they're not around!! Love it.
You sir! You really know what you are doing! Killer channel and content. Would LOVE to hear more about dream theater and caveman. Must have been six degrees?