The Columbia Disaster in Spaceflight Simulator

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  • @ApexSpaceflight
    @ApexSpaceflight  3 месяца назад +81

    I understand that some of the viewers are concerned about the privacy and dignity of the fallen astronauts as well as their families. But I would like to take note that the families of the crew of Columbia pushed for the release of more information regarding the accident.
    A Flight Surgeon during the STS-107 who is also working as a family liaison during the Columbia Accident Investigation Board said the following:
    "In discussion with the Columbia spouses we were entirely unified in our desire to ensure that all the lessons learned from this mishap be applied to prevent this type of accident from happening again.
    As sensitive as this issue is, it is essential that the facts related to crew survival be disseminated to ensure the next generation of spacecraft are afforded the maximum protection."
    While the statement may refer to the release of the 2008 Columbia Crew Survival Investigation Report (CCSIR), this also applies to this video. The families wanted as much information to be disseminated about the accident as possible, including simulations (which was done on this video), as long as the media showing the remains of the astronauts are not shown.
    "Although we grieve deeply, as did the families of Apollo I and Challenger before us, the bold exploration of space must go on. Once the root cause of this tragedy is found and corrected, the legacy of Columbia must carry on for the benefit of our children and yours."
    - Statement from the Columbia families read by Evelyn Husband, wife of Commander Rick Husband on February 3, 2003, two days after the disaster.

    • @Southboundpachyderm
      @Southboundpachyderm 2 месяца назад +3

      I wouldn't worry about it too much. Those people that are upset are unfamiliar with how mishap investigations happen and why they're deliberately made public. For any that might not understand why it's important that all the details are public, it's because it's literally the only way aviation safety gets better. Every rule there is for aviation and space flight exists because someone died and it's viewed as not only a technical responsibility to inform the public, but a matter of morals for a lot of aviation safety experts We owe it to those who died to make the swiss cheese model as dense as possible so these things don't happen in the future.

    • @outerrealm
      @outerrealm 2 месяца назад

      You're not off the hook. Did you speak with the families yourself? You're exploiting this for clicks just like everyone else is. And you did one of the worst versions of what happened that I've seen here.

    • @charleskavoukjian3441
      @charleskavoukjian3441 2 месяца назад +1

      Lol they should grow up and realize the world isnt always sunshine and rainbows. People die, get a helmet

    • @charleskavoukjian3441
      @charleskavoukjian3441 2 месяца назад +4

      @@outerrealm😂 you probably got 5 vaccines and 3 boosters while wearing a mask alone in your car.

    • @broncoguy4862
      @broncoguy4862 2 месяца назад

      @@charleskavoukjian3441 The point is a good one, however. This content seems to have been churned out for clicks, and doesn't offer any new insight, information or anything that hasn't been pored over thousands of times before. There's nothing new or unique. From an educational point of view, there are far better videos from years ago that provide far better detail.

  • @MartFord
    @MartFord 2 месяца назад +18

    The one thing you never want to hear from mission control... "lock the doors".

  • @Mr.GreenSpace
    @Mr.GreenSpace 3 месяца назад +13

    The Columbia disaster is so sad.. 😢

  • @Curbjaw
    @Curbjaw 2 месяца назад +16

    I worked for a subcontractor of NASA in the late 90s, most of our work was with the ISS and the NBL ISS mock up. The back and forth with NASA was mindblowing. I remember getting off a conference call with NASA engineers, our engineer, and our company's owner and I looked at them and said "How has the Challenger been the only disaster on these guys watches?"

  • @igorschmidlapp6987
    @igorschmidlapp6987 2 месяца назад +8

    The chilling thing is, upon seeing the launch replay, and seeing that piece of foam hit the leading edge of the wing, they were "dead" from that moment on...

  • @marksamuelsen2750
    @marksamuelsen2750 2 месяца назад +10

    I was in Dallas that day going to Flight Safety to get a Type Rating in a Falcon 10. I stood in the parking lot and was stunned as I could see pieces coming off as it broke apart. Sad day for all.

  • @57Jimmy
    @57Jimmy 2 месяца назад +15

    The two most haunting comms of the whole Space Shuttle era…
    Challenger:
    “Challenger, go at throttle up”…(static..)
    “Roger.Go at throttle up…”….😢
    And with Columbia:
    “Lock the doors.”😢
    God bless them all🫡💕🇨🇦

  • @SierraThunder
    @SierraThunder 2 месяца назад +7

    And the only reason that they knew of all of these sensors going offline, is that out of all of the shuttles, ONLY Columbia had a complete suite of sensors from nose to tail. NASA saw no need to install them in all of the shuttles. Plus, you're not actually hearing all of the communications between the flight director and the other systems monitors.
    This has to do with security at NASA. A man that I know who was one of the systems monitors said that it went from relative calm in the building to frantic bedlam in less than a minute, you can't hear all of the phones suddenly beginning to ring as calls began coming in about 1 minute before LOS, to a number of station alarms going off through Mission Control & several other rooms in the building.

  • @wendellsmith1964
    @wendellsmith1964 2 месяца назад +6

    I saw one of the main engines dug up at Fort Polk, LA. When it impacted the earth is splashed mud up to the top of mature longleaf pine trees.

  • @Raykibb1
    @Raykibb1 2 месяца назад +11

    Crew safety was never a big concern for the makers of the Space Shuttle. Those big companies made so much money that a lost Shuttle did not affect their price to put a Shuttle into space. Why NASA did not attempt a rescue is what is so sad to me. The video of the blast off was clear that something, a block of foam, broke off and struck the Columbia. A roll over near Hubble could have assessed the damage, and Atlantis being on the pad could have been brought in as a rescue mission.

    • @ngc-fo5te
      @ngc-fo5te 2 месяца назад

      They would never have okayed Atlantis for such a mission - for various factors.

    • @rmill344
      @rmill344 2 месяца назад +2

      Atlantis wasn't on the pad, it was in the VAB being prepped for STS 114 (7 flights after Columbia. They could have rushed the prep to get in into space as a life boat, but it wasn't anywhere close to being ready to go. Also, Hubble wouldn't have helped, its lens is designed to focus on very very distant objects, not something as close as an shuttle in Earth orbit.

    • @LisaMedeiros-tr2lz
      @LisaMedeiros-tr2lz 2 месяца назад

      @@rmill344 Not to mention tracking an object going 17,000 mph in close proximity. It is a good thing YT commenters are not at the helm of our space agency. Lol.

  • @michaelairheart6921
    @michaelairheart6921 2 месяца назад +5

    When the shuttle disintegrated, the explosion or sonic boom, shook my whole house. When I went outside I could see multiple flaming pieces going across the sky. I instantly knew that it was the shuttle and that something went terribly wrong.

  • @thepirate5955
    @thepirate5955 2 месяца назад +6

    In a recent documentary, on e expert characterized the NASA mentality perfectly when it came to the insulating foam breaking away in earlier missions. He described the clear warning signs were there all along, but over time, the rigid schedule drove all else. He called it "the normalization of deviance" in the data. Truer words were never spoken!

    • @LisaMedeiros-tr2lz
      @LisaMedeiros-tr2lz 2 месяца назад

      There is nothing unique to NASA in this regard. It occurs in countless industries, missions, scenarios, etc. It didn't fail last time (or ever) due to that. This is a human being thing where you have perfect clarity after the fact and a disaster has already occurred.

    • @thepirate5955
      @thepirate5955 2 месяца назад

      @@LisaMedeiros-tr2lz Plausible, but I was narrowing focus on NASA's culture.

  • @JasonSmith-qq1xg
    @JasonSmith-qq1xg 2 месяца назад +6

    This is absolutely TERRIFYING to watch. May the crew of STS-107 rest in peace 💙

  • @richardmattocks
    @richardmattocks 2 месяца назад +8

    They would have known about the tire pressure issues and from that moment at the very least it was going to be a bad landing. Sadly I have zero doubt that they knew what was coming even if it was only for a few brief moments before the catastrophic breakup. We know at least some emergency procedures were performed (like the emergency air supply controls that we know were activated) so it wasn’t instant for them.
    My only solace is that (unlike Challenger’s crew) they got to live their dream of going to space before it all ended.

    • @PatrickMcCarthy
      @PatrickMcCarthy 2 месяца назад

      you are confusing facts between the 2 events(and both made it to space)

  • @Matt-yk5xs
    @Matt-yk5xs 3 месяца назад +98

    The worse thing is that they knew it was damaged, but NASA's leadership prevented any actions to asses the extent of the damage

    • @camdenself541
      @camdenself541 3 месяца назад +3

      That is the fact tho they new it was damaged (the o ring) it was also to cold

    • @camdenself541
      @camdenself541 3 месяца назад +5

      Srry that was challenger mb

    • @PatrickMcCarthy
      @PatrickMcCarthy 2 месяца назад +7

      There was nothing they could do

    • @garysangiacomo8016
      @garysangiacomo8016 2 месяца назад +1

      Yes, the Commander of the crew was sent a message stating that there was no problem or concern

    • @PatrickMcCarthy
      @PatrickMcCarthy 2 месяца назад +2

      @@camdenself541 how about deleting the comment and apology?

  • @christopherruggles887
    @christopherruggles887 2 месяца назад +5

    RIP Columbia we will never forget you.

  • @leokimvideo
    @leokimvideo 2 месяца назад +4

    Can you do the same for the failed Starship 3rd flight that broke up during re-entry. Looked like the heat shield was just peeling away and that lead to the loss of craft

    • @ApexSpaceflight
      @ApexSpaceflight  2 месяца назад +1

      good idea

    • @PatrickMcCarthy
      @PatrickMcCarthy 2 месяца назад

      This already exists, in much more detail
      They even have fluid dynamics models on the fuel/O2.

    • @Sandman-cr6zn
      @Sandman-cr6zn 2 месяца назад

      Not really the cause, Starship IFT3 seemed to be rolling out of control on entry which caused unprotected parts of the ship to be exposed. We cannot really assess the effect of losing some of the heat shield tiles until we have a working attitude control 🤷

    • @SpaceT3
      @SpaceT3 2 месяца назад

      Starship designed to survive re-entry even with multiple loss of heat tile, the roll cause the RUD (RCS failure led to the starship destruction)

  • @captaincaveman1962
    @captaincaveman1962 2 месяца назад +7

    no more haunting words as "lock the door"

    • @Mia1R
      @Mia1R Месяц назад +1

      That repeatedly „Columbia - Houston… UHF ComCheck…“ was hard to bear as well.
      Things will keep to go wrong sometimes, though. Nobody can guarantee for 100 % safety, even not Musk.

  • @TaeSunWoo
    @TaeSunWoo 2 месяца назад +12

    I really wish they had sent Atlantis up to save them since she was already on the pad for her next mission. If this was the NASA Mission Control from the 60s/70s they would’ve attempted it, those men and women were built different

    • @josephhubisz8610
      @josephhubisz8610 2 месяца назад +3

      NASA was never concerned about astronaut safety during the space shuttle program as evidenced by losing 14 astronauts. Absolutely unacceptable and both losses were because astronauts' lives were cheaper than fixing the problems.

    • @davidmurray5399
      @davidmurray5399 2 месяца назад

      One of the benefits of a space walk would have been a vehicle "walk around' before reentry, just to check the heat resistant areas of the hull and wings. this should have been SOP for all shuttle flights.

    • @user-jk8ez5hq4d
      @user-jk8ez5hq4d 2 месяца назад +3

      @@davidmurray5399 Thanks, Captain Hindsight! You're a lifesaver!

    • @samusaran11
      @samusaran11 2 месяца назад

      Shuttle era NASA dident care about safety. Almost lost Atlantis two flights after challenger by same way Columbia was lost.

    • @sammyfoldem3655
      @sammyfoldem3655 2 месяца назад

      Uh no

  • @Kenny4431
    @Kenny4431 2 месяца назад +6

    I know the simulation isn’t great but surprised you didn’t want to show heat build up on the left side. That’s where the failure happened.

  • @nathanb780
    @nathanb780 2 месяца назад +5

    Most sad video I've ever seen. My condolences to their families and friends.

  • @user-ri5ry5tu8y
    @user-ri5ry5tu8y 2 месяца назад +3

    It would be nice to see a representation of the shuttle from above, below, and front during the reentry.

  • @Westongroner
    @Westongroner 2 месяца назад +3

    This channel is super underrated

  • @alx_8563
    @alx_8563 3 месяца назад +1

    Dude this is so cool

  • @Space_Debris
    @Space_Debris 2 месяца назад

    Great Video! An idea? During the re-entry simulation, if you accumulated each noted anomaly as it happens "Chat-style", we could get broader view of the entire disaster as it's happening.
    Knowing of the foam strike, someone sitting at a console had to know things were going to be bad with first landing gear tire warning.

  • @spaceranger3728
    @spaceranger3728 2 месяца назад +4

    One of the NASA reconstructions I saw showed a slow steady roll rate building up as it went out of control (the rolls are about the velocity vector and at the entry angle of attack they looked more like yaws). The crew was still alive then and I suspect they would have been getting all sorts of tones and C&W annunciations as the flight control system was saturated trying to correct the errors.

    • @PatrickMcCarthy
      @PatrickMcCarthy 2 месяца назад

      read the report. early on the ship pitched suddenly. there was a snapping effect. the pullback harnesses all failed resulting in broken necks for some, severe trauma for the rest. additionally all of them were faced with the capsule tearing open just aft of the upper deck chairs.The flight surgeons said the immense sensory overload from the windblast would not have resolved before final LOC. In other words, they never knew what happened.
      The Challenger... that is a different(classified) story

  • @DatDudePlays
    @DatDudePlays 3 месяца назад +3

    RIP to everyone who died..

  • @Tamburello_1994
    @Tamburello_1994 2 месяца назад +1

    That was worth a sub.

  • @christianwentzien1106
    @christianwentzien1106 2 месяца назад +5

    Shame on NASA for NOT learning the lessons of Apollo 1 & Challenger. It’s completely unacceptable that NASA did NOT launch a rescue mission with all of the Space Shuttles in the NASA Fleet.
    GOD Bless our fallen astronauts 💫 and their beautiful families 💖 🇺🇸 💙 🇮🇱 💝 🇮🇳

    • @LisaMedeiros-tr2lz
      @LisaMedeiros-tr2lz 2 месяца назад

      How would a rescue mission have helped in Challenger? Rockets cost hundreds of millions of dollars. Maybe NASA should have used all their technology to create their own money instead of relying on Congress to appropriate it.

  • @tomomar123
    @tomomar123 2 месяца назад +4

    10:24 sounds like someone screaming

    • @aac993
      @aac993 2 месяца назад

      I think that was white noise from LOS

  • @jerrypolverino6025
    @jerrypolverino6025 2 месяца назад +8

    My education is aerospace science. I worked for General Electric with NASA contracts, and also Fairchild. I never like the shuttle. I never trusted it. We should’ve stuck with expendable, rockets and capsule returns. The shuttle never delivered what it promised. It was never even close to budget. The fact that there were two fatal accidents is all the proof we need.

    • @christopherfoote4643
      @christopherfoote4643 Месяц назад

      Actually I think there were risks associated with it that were catastrophic and while it's definitely true that it had potential hazards I don't think anyone really anticipated it either time. It operated successfully most of the time.

    • @jameysingletonvideos
      @jameysingletonvideos Месяц назад +2

      Interesting. Appreciate you sharing your expert input on the bigger issue. Sounds like we need more folks to take these concerns seriously.

    • @jerrypolverino6025
      @jerrypolverino6025 Месяц назад +2

      @@christopherfoote4643 it was always on the edge. Worst aspect, it did not have a method to get away from the solid rockets. If a launch went wrong everyone was dead, The Apollo had an exit sitting on the launch platform all the way up, and liquid rickets you could shut down. The Shuttle was dangerous.

    • @BassGirlSusan1961
      @BassGirlSusan1961 Месяц назад +1

      You worked for 'generally electric'.....mkay.

    • @rustyshackleford1114
      @rustyshackleford1114 Месяц назад

      Too many moving parts. Powered by a controlled explosion. No escape system. An amazing machine, but one that was tried to be too advanced and not practical enough.

  • @markmaz56
    @markmaz56 2 месяца назад +2

    Slight correction: the video of the crew is during reentry, not before it. You can see the plasma clearly out the windows.

  • @archelon-jh7by
    @archelon-jh7by 3 месяца назад +1

    that a good recreation, maybe not the best recreation of the shuttle but one of the best recreation of that disaster in sfs

  • @sodamncutestud2
    @sodamncutestud2 2 месяца назад +3

    If they didn’t lose consciousness they def knew they were dying. We know a few were conscious for like a min after losing signal.

  • @VincentNajger1
    @VincentNajger1 2 месяца назад +2

    The saddest and most infuriating part of this is the 'just keep pushing through the checklist' no matter the cost attitude. It's like 'summit fever'. That massive beurocratic machine just kept pushing for biz as usual, despite them knowing the likely outcome. They saw the missing and damaged tiles. What did they think would happen? They should have ferried them down on soyuz, even if it took several trips and another month in space. Its mind-boggling that nobody was even charged with negligence at the least. Why they allowed the entire crew to board despite knowing the possibility of breaking up, instead of just a minimum crew is mind-boggling as well. It's a lesson on how not to handle extremely high risk and dangerous situations and how risk could have been mitigated, but wasn't.

    • @PhantomDrums917
      @PhantomDrums917 2 месяца назад +1

      "Normalization of Deviance" as spoken by astronaut Mike Mullane. He's right on the money. All the bureaucratic pressure on and amongst NASA admins to push launches and ignore a another problem.

  • @joerhodes213
    @joerhodes213 2 месяца назад +2

    I had always heard that Rick Husband's last words were, "roger....uh oh".

  • @peterresetz1960
    @peterresetz1960 2 месяца назад +6

    Both Shuttles were destroyed as a result of the political hierarchy of the NASA administrators who made reckless decisions. Nor could NASA administrators claim ignorance as they were pre launch/flight warned each time.

    • @bbarott
      @bbarott 2 месяца назад

      They destroyed two shuttles and killed two crews, and for the same lame-assed reason. And they have yet to learn anything at all from either experience.

  • @rogersimpson9725
    @rogersimpson9725 2 месяца назад +6

    I hope they didn't suffer

  • @nofrackingzone7479
    @nofrackingzone7479 2 месяца назад +2

    Senior engineers and managers at nasa knew what was going to happen. What exactly would you have done, have them sit in orbit until the oxygen and power/fuel ran out? There was no backup, taxi to pick them up.

  • @detangojet
    @detangojet 2 месяца назад +1

    If you ever get a chance to visit NASA in Texas, do it. When you see the older rockets and all the other displays, you realize how incredibly courageous all of the astronauts really were. Perhaps a little crazy too.

  • @malcolmclements9254
    @malcolmclements9254 2 месяца назад +3

    They were aware of the damage in fact there was a picture of the crack to the edge of the left wing. This crack was large, there is no way they should have returned. Go back to the space station and wait for a rescue mission of sorts or in space repairs?

    • @danielwillliams9669
      @danielwillliams9669 2 месяца назад

      From what I understand, it wasn't possible to go to the station from their mission parameters. I wish that was possible. It was a death flight once they took off.

    • @LisaMedeiros-tr2lz
      @LisaMedeiros-tr2lz 2 месяца назад +1

      They were not in the orbital plane and inclination of the space station. It takes an enormous amount of energy to change orbital inclination that they did not have.

  • @ronjon7942
    @ronjon7942 2 месяца назад +3

    I did not know the foam piece was as large as was estimated.
    I still have difficulty understanding why either an engineer or a post flight assessment team from previous missions were never sufficiently curious or motivated enough to create a real test or even a simulation of a piece of foam striking the airframe. When I look back at the Cold War Space Race and the lengths NASA and USAF engineers went to, to analyze and test both every imaginable scenario, as well as all observed phenomena, it’s clear that that level of aggressive initiative, and determination, and independent analysis, by both dedicated individuals and teams, had been swapped with bureaucratic inertia and complacency within the NASA of the 80s.
    The fault lay not only with NASA, however. Congress also imposed serious burdens on NASA, putting severe limitations on the agency with such a high priority placed on cost cutting, perpetual interference and oversight (oversight of cost controls, that is). Congress forced NASA to settle on a design based on perceived affordability rather than a properly designed Shuttle program. This re-prioritization led to a compromised system that Congress felt was acceptable, even though it was criticized by the space industry at the time for being insufficient for its mission - as well as, as proven, unsafe.
    Congress bears responsibility for creating an atmosphere of bureaucracy fatigue and a lowering of the morale of the agency, which led directly to the reduction of NASA’s culture of safety as well as the feeling of complacent indifference. When NASA engineers and dedicated administrators are constantly being reined in and second guessed by appointed bureaucrats, it is amazing the Shuttle Program was as successful as it was, upon researching the complete backstory and program background.

    • @LisaMedeiros-tr2lz
      @LisaMedeiros-tr2lz 2 месяца назад

      Really you could summarize it by noting that NASA was given a blank check from the President and Congress back in the Apollo days. This was due to their being a space race and it being a matter of national security. Russia has already launched an orbiting satellite and put the first man in space. It was not just a matter of national pride. The US did not want Russia controlling the space above our country. Remember this was coming off the cold war and nuclear arms race, which was still happening. The NASA budget percentage of the overall federal budget peaked at over 4% in the 1960's. Today it is less than 0.4%. Spaceflight was never safe, and NASA through the 1980's and 2000's never was provided enough funding to beat down risks to a lower level.

  • @Standardbosnian
    @Standardbosnian 3 месяца назад +2

    This is just so sad...

  • @ddrennon
    @ddrennon 2 месяца назад +1

    "Lock the doors"-chilling.

  • @frankfielder
    @frankfielder 2 месяца назад +1

    They had entered the upper atmosphere on the video the flight crew made on re-entry that is why you are seeing the flashes of light out of the windows of the shuttle. That is ionized gas from the shuttle going through the upper atmosphere so fast it strips electrons off of the gas molecules.

  • @gregorysmull8068
    @gregorysmull8068 2 месяца назад +4

    NASA should have done better to protect these astronauts. This wasn't the first foam strike. There was no way to assess the damage which is inexcusable. There was no consideration of a rescue operation should one have been needed. The problem with the government running science operations is the threat of politics getting in the way of objective reasoning. My condolences to the families of these brave souls.

    • @LisaMedeiros-tr2lz
      @LisaMedeiros-tr2lz 2 месяца назад

      "Doing better" costs money. Politics indeed, and more specifically appropriations.

  • @darylb5564
    @darylb5564 2 месяца назад +2

    Space flight is dangerous and bad things happen. I think this incident was preventable

  • @foxholiday4308
    @foxholiday4308 2 месяца назад

    Ugh i watched this fall to the ground that morning, i remember every news channel i didnt have school that day, i don't remember why maybe it was Saturday or summer break but, yeah, terrible day

  • @Autshot20
    @Autshot20 2 месяца назад +1

    Not that they would have been able to do anything about it, but it sounds like, unless the people assessing the situation could guarantee there was going to be a catastrophic failure, the decision makers didn't want to have to consider options. There was no thought process of exploring possible options, just in case the damage was bad.

    • @LisaMedeiros-tr2lz
      @LisaMedeiros-tr2lz 2 месяца назад

      There were no options. Reread your first sentence to find the answer.

  • @ELDLtenors
    @ELDLtenors 2 месяца назад +2

    do Challenger too? good stuff

    • @alonsodsoto4466
      @alonsodsoto4466 2 месяца назад

      He already did it at ruclips.net/video/vcDo8lswh1k/видео.htmlsi=Ze8n3YTKg_-bdpLY

  • @DrawingWithPatchara6778
    @DrawingWithPatchara6778 18 дней назад

    The reason why there was a lost signal from Columbia because of 2 things 1. During reentry there is no signal because since they are entering to atmosphere the heat blocks radio waves from the space shuttle 2. There was a gap in the nose gear

    • @epicuniversal
      @epicuniversal 10 дней назад

      Wrong and Wrong. Because of the TDRS, communications were pretty reliable with the shuttle with only very short periods of disruption. There was no gap in the nose gear or any landing gear. There was a wing leading edge breach in the left wing by the foam strike during launch. That hole allowed hot gasses to melt through the aluminum wing.

  • @cdjsteve
    @cdjsteve 2 месяца назад +3

    And nobody went to jail in either one of these disasters ???

  • @cdjsteve
    @cdjsteve 2 месяца назад +4

    They knew.

  • @ianandjohnandmaniandreni9323
    @ianandjohnandmaniandreni9323 2 месяца назад +2

    It's NASA, they should've always had a rescue rocket ready to power up, fuel up and get up within 24-48 hours of the Shuttle launch.
    Come down in the rescue capsule and leave shuttle up there until they patch it and can rc it down.

    • @AJCANADAPICTURES
      @AJCANADAPICTURES 2 месяца назад

      I don’t think we could rc… the soviets could with their shuttle it went up with no crew for its first and only flight

    • @LisaMedeiros-tr2lz
      @LisaMedeiros-tr2lz 2 месяца назад

      Rescue rockets. Lol. And who would pay for that luxury? Hindsight is always 20-20, and a rescue rocket would not have done anything to save the crew of the Challenger (the only other Shuttle disaster) now would it? They only lost two out of 135. Maybe dwell on the positive.

  • @thomaslohmann3808
    @thomaslohmann3808 2 месяца назад +2

    There’s nothing wrong with showing this. We can learn from it.

  • @metatechnologist
    @metatechnologist 2 месяца назад +2

    So the highest parachute jump has been 128K. From this video the shuttle broke up at 150K. I really believe that a parachute system with a strengthened crew compartment really could have saved the crew on this one. Find Gregg Easterbrook's very prescient editorials on the Space Shuttle.

    • @LisaMedeiros-tr2lz
      @LisaMedeiros-tr2lz 2 месяца назад +3

      Parachute. Lol. Those don't work very well when you are going 17,000 mph.

    • @metatechnologist
      @metatechnologist 2 месяца назад

      @@LisaMedeiros-tr2lz You might be right. But it would not have to deploy immediately until 130K feet. Also note that the front part of the shuttle where the crew were strapped in survived intact after the breakup as you can see here. What I'm saying is this failure mode could have been predicted and planned for. The crew compartment could have been hardened and flight suits pressurized. Especially after a very similar incident in 1988 with shuttle Atlantis and the Challenger disaster. It's a question of engineering and nothing else. Obama ending the shuttle program was a very smart and overdue decision.

    • @callmeshaggy5166
      @callmeshaggy5166 2 месяца назад +3

      At Mach 12+, any parachute would've been destroyed with the rest of the shuttle & cabin. Also can't deploy when tumbling uncontrollably. The g-forces alone before breakup would've been enough to render them all incapacitated anyway.

    • @metatechnologist
      @metatechnologist 2 месяца назад

      @@callmeshaggy5166 at some point the crew compartment would have a terminal velocity. Besides that the shuttle was a bad design from the get-go. Gregg Easterbrook wrote some amazing prescient opinions about that!

    • @callmeshaggy5166
      @callmeshaggy5166 Месяц назад

      @@metatechnologist your parachute drop comparison doesn't work for the reasons mentioned above. Felix reached nearly 900mph, about a dozen times slower than the shuttle cabin at breakup, and he even still he didn't deploy any parachute until he was well into the lower atmosphere. Deploying a parachute at such high speed would either A) destroy the parachute, or B) kill whoever it's attached to from g-deceleration.

  • @TrevorDalton-ij5se
    @TrevorDalton-ij5se 2 месяца назад

    May they rest in peace 🕊️

  • @VincentNajger1
    @VincentNajger1 2 месяца назад +1

    just wondering if thats an AI voice or is that the narrator's genuine Australian accent? Subbed.

  • @thedarksoul2279
    @thedarksoul2279 2 месяца назад +1

    Well now im seeing the simulation gives me a feeling in my stomach

  • @claudelebel49
    @claudelebel49 2 месяца назад +5

    I am thinking that they had plenty of time to realize that they were toast and bravely meeting their fate.

  • @alexanderleach3365
    @alexanderleach3365 2 месяца назад +2

    A terrible tragedy. All because a styrofoam block from the ET tank blowing a hole into the wing of Columbia sealing the fate of the crew.

    • @captainpoppleton
      @captainpoppleton 2 месяца назад +1

      I did a little reading, if the block debris had been heavier there would have been less damage or could have missed entirely. One minute the block was going 1570 mph upwards with the shuttle, then when it broke off it was completely at the mercy of aerodynamic forces and suddenly it was going 530mph DOWNWARDS.
      It didn't just gently fall a few metres, it was catapulted.
      A NASA test facility recreated the incident with a 1.7 pound object and were able to replicate the damage.

  • @Jordan.4x4
    @Jordan.4x4 2 месяца назад +1

    Very Sad

  • @conradsieber7883
    @conradsieber7883 2 месяца назад +4

    Apollo One-Challenger-Columbia
    Similar NASA organizational failures separated by about 17 years each time.
    Totally unnecessary. No one was fired. Some were promoted...

    • @chrisst8922
      @chrisst8922 2 месяца назад

      So we're overdue by 4 years for the next one.

  • @tazzy186
    @tazzy186 26 дней назад

    I hope Linda Ham and her team of other upper managers never get a wink of sleep again.

  • @chrispasini5870
    @chrispasini5870 2 месяца назад +2

    They knew Columbia was damaged but kept quiet 😢sad. They ignored the foam strike.

    • @ericjencson9489
      @ericjencson9489 2 месяца назад +1

      There was nothing that could be done.

    • @timcouch2980
      @timcouch2980 2 месяца назад +1

      I want to know why there never was a backup shuttle readied on the pad for things like this.

    • @ericjencson9489
      @ericjencson9489 2 месяца назад +1

      @timcouch2980 I'm certain if you dug deeper you would find it to be logistics and money.

    • @christophergordon6593
      @christophergordon6593 2 месяца назад

      @@ericjencson9489 They could have rescued them,.

  • @80sbeginner
    @80sbeginner 2 месяца назад +2

    27.4.2024
    Journey - Send Her My Love [my version]
    *_It's been so long_* 🤔
    *_Since I've seen their face_* 👨🏻👨🏻👩🏻👩🏽👨🏾👨🏻👨🏻
    *_Who said they're doin' fine_* 🫤
    *_I still recall_* 😑
    *_A sad live-play_* 😢
    *_How it hurt so bad to see all cry_* 😭
    *_They didn't want to say good-bye..._* 😈😈😈😈😈😈😈
    *_Space ain't above_* 🌎🟰💩 *_shame glories remain_* 🤮
    *_Space ain't above_* 🌍🟰💩 *_posers never fade_* 🧑🏻‍🚀🧑🏻‍🚀👩🏻‍🚀👩🏽‍🚀👨🏾‍🚀🧑🏻‍🚀🧑🏻‍🚀
    *_Space ain't above_* 🌏🟰💩
    *_The same old tale, the same old boom_* 💥
    *_I'm on the mode again_* ✍
    *_They needed so much more_* 🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑
    *_Than truth could give_* 👎
    *_They knew our gov 'could not' pretend_* 🥸
    *_Rotten hearts can always spend..._* 💵
    *_Space ain't above_* 🌎🟰💩 *_shame glories remain_* 🤮
    *_Space ain't above_* 🌍🟰💩 *_posers never fade_* 🧑🏻‍🚀🧑🏻‍🚀👩🏻‍🚀👩🏽‍🚀👨🏾‍🚀🧑🏻‍🚀🧑🏻‍🚀
    *_Space ain't above_* 🌏🟰💩
    *_Cancel out their fame I'm screamin'_* 😡
    *_Infections of fake space I'm healin'_* 👨‍🏫
    *_It's their choice_* 😞
    *_That keeps on hurting me_* 😒
    *_Space ain't, space ain't above_* 🌐🟰💩
    *_Posers never fade_* 🧑🏻‍🚀🧑🏻‍🚀👩🏻‍🚀👩🏽‍🚀👨🏾‍🚀🧑🏻‍🚀🧑🏻‍🚀
    *_Shame glories remain_* 🤮
    *_Space ain't, space ain't above_* 🌐🟰💩

  • @jacksalvin364
    @jacksalvin364 12 дней назад +1

    February 1st, 2003

  • @imagereader_9
    @imagereader_9 2 месяца назад

    10:22 Right about here the crew had to know they were doomed...

  • @ksmith1298
    @ksmith1298 2 месяца назад +2

    The foam doesn't break off and stop...it didn't hit it at 800 fps

  • @johnmarshall6394
    @johnmarshall6394 Месяц назад

    Is the part at 11:10 the crew cabin or something else?

  • @JoseHernandez-vq8rc
    @JoseHernandez-vq8rc 17 дней назад

    Aw... Dang it!

  • @silhouettesilhouette2087
    @silhouettesilhouette2087 2 месяца назад +5

    We all will die one day in the future. It's important to meet that day as a human being not as a bastard or coward.

  • @cdjsteve
    @cdjsteve 2 месяца назад

    I wonder what it's like to travel at 13,000 MPH

  • @Rayman1971
    @Rayman1971 Месяц назад

    Hopefully they were able to tell command exactly what they thought of them..... Joking, but really, so sad and preventable.NASA strikes again

  • @jamaldominicbarr7379
    @jamaldominicbarr7379 2 месяца назад +3

    9:26 Rick Husband says Feeling the Heat. The left wing strike email he got, the left wing sensors going off line. Husband knew, hence his Feeling The Heat comment.

  • @Hendo56
    @Hendo56 2 месяца назад +3

    It's important we study these incidents, so that we can prevent them in the future. Else they died in vain...

  • @spacejunk-ik2yu
    @spacejunk-ik2yu 3 месяца назад +1

    RIP

  • @careycrowson-ud2px
    @careycrowson-ud2px 2 месяца назад

    As for no fire in space, they were in re entry which means atmosphere. Don't be stupid.

  • @peterharoldjanakjr2078
    @peterharoldjanakjr2078 2 месяца назад +3

    Video presentation is a bit rough. And a bit long where it shouldn't be. But overall, good job.

    • @PhillipSalyers-pd3tp
      @PhillipSalyers-pd3tp 2 месяца назад

      Well why don't you do your own so it will be perfect.

    • @peterharoldjanakjr2078
      @peterharoldjanakjr2078 2 месяца назад

      @@PhillipSalyers-pd3tp Why don't you mind your business? Just helpin' out.

  • @chrisrutherfurd9338
    @chrisrutherfurd9338 2 месяца назад +1

    Given the structural forces going into space, the speed and drag on a breached vessel, why didn't Columbia disintegrate on ascent?

    • @peterharoldjanakjr2078
      @peterharoldjanakjr2078 2 месяца назад +2

      Ascent speed was much slower. They werent heating up like with re-entry at much higher speeds

    • @chrisrutherfurd9338
      @chrisrutherfurd9338 2 месяца назад

      @@peterharoldjanakjr2078 understood, but structural failure can occur at high velocity if a vessel has a breach like that. It would still create enough to tear the wing apart.

    • @Peter-976
      @Peter-976 2 месяца назад +2

      ​@@chrisrutherfurd9338 it was the heat that compromised the structure. That heat was not there on ascent

    • @peterharoldjanakjr2078
      @peterharoldjanakjr2078 2 месяца назад

      @@chrisrutherfurd9338 Things that can happen are not always guaranteed to happen.

    • @MartFord
      @MartFord 2 месяца назад +3

      On ascent, the shuttle has some protection from air pressure and drag from the main booster it's attached to. Not only that, the angle of attack on ascent is nose up, to allow the vehicle to punch through the air. On descent, as the shuttle needs to slow down, it doesn't descend nose first, it falls belly first. That angle of descent puts far pore pressure and strains on the tiles as they are facing not only an increase of speed from ascent of about 1,000 mph, but also are in direct contact from the air pressure and drag. Think of it like when you stick your hand out the window of a moving car. In ascent, your hand is pointing forward and flat into the wind, allowing the wind to pass over your hand, but on descent, it's like turning your hand palm up into the wind. Which requires a lot more effort to hold against the wind.

  • @TimothyLipinski
    @TimothyLipinski 2 месяца назад

    Great Video ! The NASA leadership killed the two Crews of the NASA Space Shuttle program ! The big first mistake was stating that the Shuttle was operational after three (3) flights ! The Shuttle Program was a research program as long as problems developed ! ! ! Also NASA planned to develop the Dream Chaser (or Capsule) during the Shuttle Program, but did not fund this Safety Program ! The Dream Chaser is what the NASA Space Shuttle Program should have been ! The Tech developed to return to the moon to stay, can take US and the world to Mars and beyond-Ad Astra... tjl

  • @willie417
    @willie417 2 месяца назад

    so they was still alive during the breakup, I still don't understand why the crew area wasn't made to separate like an ejection capsule something like the f-111 aardvark system, ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
    all of those ship going into space should have them, and re-entry is survivable go up with one

    • @danatompkins5847
      @danatompkins5847 2 месяца назад +1

      I read somewhere on wiki that Columbia initially did have ejection seats/pods based on SR-71, but were taken out after the first six flights. Most likely after the shuttle was proven generally safe and NASA had some confidence and all the squawks fixed. I read back in those days it cost $10,000 per pound to carry something into space. I don’t disagree with your thinking but there is risk in everything we do.

    • @willie417
      @willie417 2 месяца назад

      @@danatompkins5847 Wait! they had and escape system and removed them? what fool thought it was a good ideal to remove the escape systems? the astronauts should had refuse to fly in them, the first two shuttles had two ejection seats, those rocket scientist and engineers would have developed a pod, so how much is an astronaut life worth? The Challenger sure could had used one

  • @RunToOlive
    @RunToOlive 2 месяца назад +7

    Decent attempt. All the wing damage was to the left side; why was your animation from the right?!? You showed the right wing coming apart. The depiction of the fuselage breakup was almost entirely wrong. If you’re going to go to all the effort of doing this, you owe it to the -107 Crew to nail the critical details, -especially- on a monetized video.

    • @ApexSpaceflight
      @ApexSpaceflight  2 месяца назад +3

      As much as I want it to be as realistic as possible, that's the best the game has got.

  • @m0sh159
    @m0sh159 2 месяца назад +1

    it's so scary that your death was burning to death

    • @larrydavid6852
      @larrydavid6852 2 месяца назад +1

      Most likely blunt force trauma.

    • @kingdomofcybercityanimations
      @kingdomofcybercityanimations 2 месяца назад +2

      Actually their cause of death was loss of oxygen (yes they were also burning at the same time of losing oxygen)

    • @matthewbennett4363
      @matthewbennett4363 2 месяца назад +1

      @@larrydavid6852If I remember correctly from reading the official report, they weren’t conscious but for a few seconds at the initial breakup.

  • @PhillipSalyers-pd3tp
    @PhillipSalyers-pd3tp 2 месяца назад +3

    The flight director new this was going to happen or he wouldn't have been asking all those questions.

    • @THE-michaelmyers
      @THE-michaelmyers 2 месяца назад +3

      I have not read any articles nor have I listened to any comment Roy Cain made about that horrible day. Being an Engineer myself what I am hearing with those questions is an Engineers mind working. Just as Gene Kranz did with Apollo 13 after that situation. As Engineers, we can't fix a problem until we get an idea of what has happened. One of the more famous quotes by Kranz was his question to the EECOM controller Sy Liebergot was his questions attempting to see the problem. Was it a problem with the misfin or was there a problem with the spacecraft itself? While I am not an Aerospace Engineer as Roy Cain is, I know what pressure is. When you have 20,000 to 30,000 customers in the dark because of an equipment failure, you had better be quickly sizing up the situation and getting those customers power flowing again. You also can't be "guessing". Cain was in fix-the-problem mode until those folks sitting behind him said there was a video of the spacecraft's catastrophic failure, and his first words were "Lock the doors". For the record, every person in Mission Control that day knew what the worst case was.

    • @vicariousjohnson9823
      @vicariousjohnson9823 2 месяца назад

      No.

    • @vchism712
      @vchism712 2 месяца назад

      Incorrect...he was working the problem and looking for a fix.

  • @LeviGamingPlays
    @LeviGamingPlays 3 месяца назад

    You Said Saturday

  • @davidolie8392
    @davidolie8392 2 месяца назад +1

    Far better videos on this available elsewhere.

  • @Franklin-jj4jz
    @Franklin-jj4jz Месяц назад +1

    NASA became aware of the foam strike later on launch day upon reviewing the tracking camera playback. They could only speculate as to the extent of the damage to the orbiter since the point of impact was not visible to those same cameras. Since Foreign Object Damage (FOD) had been a regular occurrence beginning with the very first Shuttle launch in April of 1981, NASA had become desensitized to the shedding problem. Even after nearly losing Atlantis in 1988 due to heat shield tiles that were shed during the launch of STS-27, nothing substantial was done about the FOD issue.
    Playing devil's advocate however, suppose that NASA had determined that the orbiter and crew were absolutely doomed. What, if any, purpose would disclosing their impending demise serve, other than to subject the crew, their colleagues and their loved ones to intense mental torture in their final days. I'm certain that NASA has written protocols for this scenario, but I don't think declassifying them would serve any useful purpose.

    • @tazzy186
      @tazzy186 26 дней назад

      The human thing to do would be to let their loved ones say goodbye instead of giving them hope of a safe landing only to be ripped away. Prep emergency sevices along it's trajectory route so citizens know to be cautious of falling debris. Literally anything.

  • @allanrose3661
    @allanrose3661 2 месяца назад +1

    You spelled sensor wrong several times.

    • @ApexSpaceflight
      @ApexSpaceflight  2 месяца назад +1

      thanks for pointing out, definitely not gonna make the mistake again soon :))

  • @hootowl2112
    @hootowl2112 2 месяца назад +1

    You used a CELL PHONE APP?

  • @jasonallen1917
    @jasonallen1917 2 месяца назад +1

    The foam broke off and struck the leading edge of the left wing ON LAUNCH, NOT WHILE IN FLIGHT.

    • @kwasisb5390
      @kwasisb5390 2 месяца назад +9

      Have you seen the actual video? It actually occurred during flight. If it were during launch, the foam's speed wouldn't have been enough to damage the thermal shield

  • @Rhysmuth30
    @Rhysmuth30 2 месяца назад +1

    The crash was cause of fire it was crashing into parts
    I know the NASA has a vid but it is long
    It won't be good it was the crash
    The crash happpen cause
    There is no heat sheld
    The NASA build it again and tryied to launch it
    Then it worked thank you
    Guys and NASA

  • @JoeHinojosa-ph8yw
    @JoeHinojosa-ph8yw Месяц назад +1

    How to transform a shuttle into a meteor

  • @johnschmitz6992
    @johnschmitz6992 2 месяца назад +1

    Look at Apollo 13.. they found an away-to bring them home ..they took what they had and made it work.. they could’ve tried something., made a temporary patch..just long enough to hold out till you got through the atmosphere.. no …attempt…at ..alll😢😢

    • @pschroeter1
      @pschroeter1 2 месяца назад

      What did you think they would make the patch out of? It's not like they had kits for it on board.

    • @NealR2000
      @NealR2000 2 месяца назад

      Are you really that stupid?

    • @captainpoppleton
      @captainpoppleton 2 месяца назад +1

      @@pschroeter1 take a tile from elsewhere on the shuttle. The crew are very smart people, they could have TRIED something

    • @Andrew.quigley
      @Andrew.quigley 2 месяца назад

      ​@@captainpoppleton
      The other tiles are shaped specifically to fit on its reavelant part of the shuttle and glued down.
      You just can't remove and put wherever you like.

    • @KP-zi6jx
      @KP-zi6jx Месяц назад

      @@captainpoppleton This isn't like kitchen or bathroom tile where you can rob one to replace a visibly damaged one. Jesus Christ you ppl are stupid.

  • @user-ey5kj8gt4e
    @user-ey5kj8gt4e Месяц назад +1

    r.i.p
    rick husband
    william mccool
    david brown
    kalpana chawla
    michael anderson
    laurel clark
    ilan ramon

  • @rfly-fpv
    @rfly-fpv 2 месяца назад +6

    Cool video but please use metric units for 95% of world's population that uses it :)

    • @Rob-xz6uv
      @Rob-xz6uv 2 месяца назад

      In relation to aviation, "Feet" is the international unit of measure used in relation to height (not metres).
      Nautical Mile is used in relation to distance. (a NM is a little longer than a mile.)
      However, in videos, etc, for public consumption, it would be helpful if metric units were also displayed.
      Regarding speed, kilometres per hour is now the recommended unit (previously Knots).
      In other words, it is a bit of a jumble between imperial and metric.

    • @rfly-fpv
      @rfly-fpv 2 месяца назад

      ​@@Rob-xz6uvYeah, unit madness is still there only because of the USA :P Even ICAO recommends using metric units in aviation but nobody cares :P But I agree, currently in aviation feet and knots are the standard. Thank Good at least SpaceX uses metric system for space flights. NASA potentially switched but they very often doesn't use it right (for example they write kph instead of km/h). Maybe in 100 years this will be finally fixed :)

    • @hootowl2112
      @hootowl2112 2 месяца назад

      To hell with your metric, I'm an American

    • @rfly-fpv
      @rfly-fpv 2 месяца назад

      ​@@hootowl2112 In Global Trade this is really an issue to have one country as stubborn as USA on units. You are angry at metric - I get that. Now imagine 95% of world population as much angry as you at imperial :) Standardization is the key, without standards we will have for example "millions" types of charges for mobile devices. Soon we will have just USB-C even in iPhones. So much less waste and confusion. Same goes for units. Less confusion, better trade, more unified World.

  • @jeffreymelton2200
    @jeffreymelton2200 2 месяца назад +3

    Its Sad dude. Then NASA thinks they are all high and perfect too.
    this is how i imagine comms went on non public channels...
    STS 107 to Houston: We are a little concerned about the damage that the tiles took during launch.
    Houston to STS 107: Yeah... you all right. its fine.
    STS: Are you sure because we got a look at it and it looks like some substantial damage.
    Houston: yeah we are sure.
    STS: but you havent eve looked at it!?!?
    Houston: Standby...
    ...
    Houston: Ok STS, take some photos and send them down to us and we will have some engineer examine them.
    STS: ok thank God.
    STS: what about data compression? itll distort the image right?
    Houston: nah itll be fine.
    before the pics even download
    Houston: ok STS it looks like its ok.
    STS: are you sure?
    Houston: yeah we looked at it.
    STS: ok.
    Challenger was sort of the same. The engineers warned them against launching on a day that cold and NASA didnt listen.

  • @outerrealm
    @outerrealm 2 месяца назад +2

    Boy, how many times are people gonna rehash this story? Like vultures picking the bones of the deceased crew.

  • @imtheonevanhalen1557
    @imtheonevanhalen1557 2 месяца назад +2

    Duh....Umm, someone put on a suit and go OUT AND INSPECT THE FREAKING WING!! But ya know these are the same guys that ignored engineers warnings NOT to launch Challenger.
    This should have been criminal....

    • @spinav8r
      @spinav8r 2 месяца назад +2

      That flight had no EVA suits or other equipment for a space walk (EVA) to repair (or simply inspect the wing) the wing. Their normal "space suits" that they wore during liftoff and reentry were not up to the task of going outside the shuttle. You are absolutely correct that the project managers (and not the engineers) are entirely culpable for this tragedy.

    • @LisaMedeiros-tr2lz
      @LisaMedeiros-tr2lz 2 месяца назад +3

      There were no provisions to perform a repair even if an extremely dangerous EVA was performed (by at least two crew) to perform an inspection. Every one of the leading edge carbon-carbon pieces were unique in their size and shape and there were never any spares on-board (as the whole entire compliment would be needed). There was also no available Shuttle at the ready to perform any rescue mission if they had known, and by the time it could have been readied, their life support would have long expired. Duh to you. Go back and ponder more criminal charges in your own mind while listening to VH. You "are the same guys" NASA would never hire because you have nothing to offer.

  • @tom5051666
    @tom5051666 Месяц назад

    NASA knew about the hole, there was no way to rescue the crew so they gave it a try. They weren't sure if the orbiter would make re-entry and now we know.