I would definitely appreciate that comparison video. I understand the whole concept of minimal single bag travel and it seems a lot of the videos just focus on the size of the pack with airlines' allowance. How come weight is never mentioned? It's great to have a 40L GR2, but that bag alone weighs 5lbs. Some airlines allow only 15lbs for a carry-on, so that leaves only 10lbs to pack (clothes and laptop). Some laptops weigh almost 5lbs with is charging brick, so that leaves 5lbs. Please weigh your pack after having your cubes in there so we can have a more accurate reading of a 40L, not just the dimensions but also the weight. Thanks Pack Hacker!
Hey rogerman10! We'll chalk up +1 for the comparison video from you! We list all weights (empty) on the sidebar of our website for packs we review! Take a look at the GR2 review here: packhacker.com/travel-gear/goruck/gr2/ There's definitely a big variance in what folks carry with them for sure (laptop, weight of clothes, electronics, toiletries, jackets). - Tom
Awesome review. Thanks for the cameo. ;-) The bag looks huge, I doubt that it will be very useful with my height. Looking forward to test it out myself though. Thanks for the great review!
Your videos are good because you think of stuff that no one really thinks of! You should really collaborate with a few bag designers and make an EDC/ One Bag Travel Backpack under the PackHacker name. Would be a great idea!
Thanks Karan! We try to be as detailed as possible. Good idea too! Maybe we'll consider that for future 🤔- still so many bags to review and react to as well! - Tom
I own several Goruck backpacks the problem when traveling with these, is that they are very heavy and they take away from the weight limit when traveling on any airline. I had to check several times my GR2 basically carrying my electronics on hand while I was on the plane.
Hey Alex - thanks for sharing your experience with us. The GORUCK GR2 is very heavy weighing 2.15kg without anything in it, so it can become an issue with airlines that have a lower weight threshold. We've found that carrying a lightweight packable daypack with you to transfer your items over into can make the transition a little easier. packhacker.com/guide/best-travel-daypack/#packable 😊 - Rebecca
I have had my GR1 for 5 years now and it is still in great shape. This bag has traveled the world and I have certainly abused this bag. The only problem is that I would like a little extra room sometimes. It’s such a difficult choice between the GR3 and GR2
@Tweed Penguin I'm thinking of getting a GR3 for travel purposes and trying to do a single backup for travel. I usually bring a daypack with me when I travel to places.
I know this is an old post now, but I bought a GR2 initially, sent it back for a GR3. I now also own a GR1. They complement each other well for different levels of travel. I just felt like the GR2 was very inefficient with space since it is 2 compartments.
@@Tsyras I appreciate it. I still haven’t replaced my GR1. What size GR2 did you buy and return? I liked the idea of organization with the GR2. Do you feel the GR3 is too big?
@@Denali_Rebel 34L GR2. I have the 26L GR1. The GR3 is big, but I am 6’1”, so it doesn’t feel huge to me. I use packing cubes though, and feel like there is more than enough pockets for my “loose” items. I typically travel with the GR1 paired with a Recycled Firefighter 72-hour Duffle. It is pretty heavy walking the long treks through airports, but it feels so much more nimble than dealing with a rolling bag. GR3 is used much less, but I am still glad to have it. I plan on using it next week on a trip paired with a Retrospective 7 camera bag.
@@Tsyras I appreciate the response. I am trying to figure out packing cubes effectively. What brand do you like? GR3 sounds big but has more possibilities.
Great review and also just enjoyed your Outlier pants review. This looks like a great bag and has some nice features including the laptop section.BUT, I have some issues with it as a one bag, travel anywhere item. It "may not be compatible" will all airlines carry on limits. That's a deal breaker for me. Its not that light as the bells and whistles in terms of added material and features adds weight. At 2.2 kg it eats into the international standard of 7kg max carry on. It's very expensive at US$455!! As a comparison I have been using the Mei Voyageur bag the last 10 years. Similar materials over a Lb lighter and made in the U.S. Is the largest size allowable for international carry on. Has an awesome harness, a detachable shoulder strap to use as a sling or can be carried brief case style. It doesn't have a laptop section though. Doesn't have the molly attachments etc but that makes it super light for the light as possible purists like me. The kicker is its only $135 US. Thats a huge difference. 10 years of international use and the material has not faded or ripped. Not connected in anyway to the company. Im just an Aussie who loves to travel light.
Thanks for providing your insights here 26realmc! As you've pointed out, the weight (and size) can definitely cut into limits on international airlines. We'll add the Mei Voyageur to our ever-growing pack list :) Tom
I'm looking for larger packing cubes to fit into the GR3, as a base layer, like in this video. I like the Eagle Creek stuff but their largest cube the PACK-IT™ REVEAL seems too big for this bag. Any suggestions on other larger sized cubes that could fit?
Just unboxed a GR3, and my first thought was in line with a lot of these comments -- damn, it's heavy! Got it to compare with an Arc'teryx Assault 45 (formerly Khard 45, just barely over carry-on dimensions, but hear you can skate by), which I'll probably keep regardless of other potential comparisons, because it's awesome. Also considering a Tom Bihn Aeronaut 45, but I'd primarily use it in backpack mode. I've never handled one in person, but it looks like it'd suck as a backpack when fully loaded. I also have an Osprey Farpoint 40, and it's a bit small -- and awkward to pack, when including a laptop -- in both carry capacity and body length for me. Looking for something at max US airline carry-on dimensions, for casual business and vacation travel. Thoughts?
Nice! We've got the Aeronaut 45 on our shortlist and are curious about the harness system, too. As far as the max US airline carry-on dimensions, for casual/business/vacation, you've got 2 good options on your list already :) We haven't reviewed either of these, but have you taken a look at the Patagonia Black Hole? packha.kr/d8qa How about the Tortuga Outbreaker? packha.kr/q984 - They're both "blocky" and sized for maximum carry. Good luck and let us know what you decide on!
Pack Hacker thanks for the suggestions! I'd looked online at the older version of the MLC (not the Black Hole), and wasn't sure about its strap system either. I've seen some more recent reviews for the MLC which look more convincing, and the Black Hole version seems nice (if a bit on the colorful side). I'm dubious of the flimsiness of the sailcloth material on the Tortugas (for shape retention, and durability), but otherwise like their functional style.
Awesome Daniel! We ran into some durability issues with the Tortuga Homebase (mainly aesthetic marks on the sailcloth - still works really well though), however, their new Setout is larger than the Homebase AND it has a Polyester exterior if that's your jam: packha.kr/eb16 (we'll have a full review up soon)
Very cool review. Do we know if goruck will include the new features in the Gr1? These bags are like the iPhone of backpack, very fancy features and expensive and getting bigger (screen) for every new version 😂
Hah - incredible observation Takahashi! "GR1 8s Plus" 😂 We're not sure what they'll include on future GR1, but they likely won't include a hip belt and compression straps due to the smaller size. - Tom
Hey azazelRising72 - yes - it's fully integrated with the pack when attached. There's more absorption if you compare it to the GR2's attachable MOLLE hip belt, too. Of course, this all depends on your height & torso size as well, but it does the job well.
I'm considering getting one of these but I have one major concern, it doesn't look very comfortable (compared to the straps and back padding of the osprey farpoint 40 or something) and I know it's a bit of a subjective question but do you personally find the bag comfortable? Could you happily walk to a hostel a few miles away and not complain about the arm straps or back padding getting uncomfortable if you were carrying 7 - 10kg worth of stuff ?
Holy crap that thing is enormous. I’m 5’11” and want to check it out. Nervous on the size though. There’s no way that thing passes international carry on standards.
Pack Hacker I love that guide :) i just spent 2 weeks in Europe and KLM and Air France were giving me grief over my AER Travel Pack lol. I got into an argument about inches and centimeters with a gate check agent hahaha
Josh - great guide! Wow - that's unfortunate with the AER Travel Pack, KLM, and Air France! Did they end up letting you on? Was there anything hanging off the pack or anything, making it appear larger? - Tom
Hey Tom, love your review videos. There's a bag out there with very few reviews from a travel perspective. If there's a way for you to snag one somehow, i'd enjoy your review on it. Its an american made pack by Spec Ops Brand. Its called The UAP.
Hey poorpolarbear! Tom here. Hard to say and it depends on your torso length as well. GR2 34L could definitely do 6 months of travel and the Minaal is a good choice too! We left a little comparison of the GR2 vs the Minaal Carry-on 2.0 in the comments of this video if you want to check it out: ruclips.net/video/O3EplEYzvBY/видео.html Good luck!
Hey Tom... loving your reviews. I'm about to finally buy a new backpack and I'm between the GR2 and Timbuk2 Wander Pack. I'd by the GR2 if it had side handles (like the GR3, but those aren't centered and I do want the option to carry it like a briefcase). Quick question. What's the backpack that is right behind you in this video, lower row, first one to your left (our right)?
Hey Gerard - solid choices! That's the Tortuga Setout (we haven't published a full review yet but will be soon!): packha.kr/eb16 Good luck with your selection, Tom
The problem with Gocruck packs is that they are VERY heavy in weight. 4.59 lbs? It weights more than (2) ThinkPad 14" x1 laptop or about 7 days of cloths. People who choose to travel with backpack instead of roller usually prefer a lighter bag. The difference will be day and night especially in summer.
I love one bag travel, what do you recommend for a 30 to 35 liter bag with a hip belt. 40 liter bags are too much I know I can get away with 30 or 35 liters, but have not found the right one yet.
Hey William! Thanks for stopping by. Check out the Cotopaxi Allpa 35L ( packhacker.com/travel-gear/cotopaxi/allpa-35l-travel-pack/ ) or the EVERGOODS Mountain Panel Loader 30 ( packhacker.com/travel-gear/evergoods/mountain-panel-loader-30/ )
Tbh , this backpack reminds me both Standard's Carry-On Backpack and CabinZero Military Backpack but the price of Goruck again is insane. I undersand this to be a value for money but still and thanks god there is a plethora of other variants to choose from
Good morning from Athens, Greece. You do make nice videos as far explaining the true abilities of each bag sice the needs of each individual are different. I wanted to ask you about the prices of bags like this.why are they so expensive? Is only because of the materials?thanks in advance and keep up the good job!
Hey Kostas! Thank you! Agreed - everyone's need is different when it comes to packs. We usually go for packs that are durable & will last a long time. The GR3 is definitely on the expensive side (one of the most expensive packs we've reviewed). Most of it is because of materials. High-grade nylon, Big YKK zippers, (and, in the case of GORUCK, made in the USA, which tends to be more expensive). With more expensive packs, our thought is to buy one expensive pack once vs replacing a cheaper one every couple of years. We may get into more budget packs soon though! Especially if we're able to do a long-term test and verify durability. - Tom
Probably not helpful to you in Athens, Kostas, but for the rest of y'all, GoRuck offers a 25% discount (!!) on apparently everything for active military, first responders, students, teachers, and government employees, verified via id.me (probably USA-centric).
Hi. would you use this as a daily everyday backpack? I do carry heavy coats everyday in addition to my computer, water, and the occasional supermarket purchase. I am 188cm / 6'2" and 90kilos / 180 pounds. Thank you very much
Very interesting. I'm wondering how this will fare as a checked bag though? As a shorter guy, this is too big for me to comfortably carry-on, but as a checked bag, I think it might be a nice alternative to rolling luggage. Because of the way GoRuck designs their strap and laptop compartment I wonder if I can actually stow the straps into the laptop compartment, and the bottom attachment loops into the hip belt pass-thru so I won't have any straps dangling around? Anyone know if that's doable? Can the straps fit into the laptop compartment, all zippered up?
Hey Josh! The main thing you'll get with standard roller luggage is a harder compartment. Although the GR3 is super strong, it's not going to provide hard casing for items like a standard, hard suitcase would. Doesn't mean it won't work for checking the bag, but that's something to keep in mind if you have fragile items inside! As far as the stowing of the straps goes, there's not really an elegant solution GORUCK provides. You may be able to work out some MacGyver-ing, however, the laptop compartment only opens up 1/2 way, making the far strap hard to stow.
Which do you prefer to travel with. I have the GR2 but am thinking about returning it for the GR3 and a bullet bag. So which do you prefer to travel with?
I have decided to return the GR2 and purchase the GR3 and a 10l bullet ruk. I have the Gr1 26l, the 30l kit bag, and now will have the GR3 and 10l Bullet. That should allow me to mix and match for small and long trips. The GR2 is great but sometimes to much organization is best. I’m excited to have that 4 bag combo and should be able to mix and match as needed.
Hey Draphilius - the GORUCK GR3 just about fits into the one bag travel category because at 45L this pack is pretty big. We haven't tried fitting this under the seat, but depending on what airline you're flying with it's going to be a pretty tight squeeze, especially if this bag is fully packed. We also recommend taking a look at the airlines you're flying with for their individual specifications. In addition to this, you can also check out our Carry-On Compliance feature on our full written review. Although this is a guideline for carry-on compliance, if this pack isn't carry-on compliant for a certain airline, chances are it's not going to be able to fit under the seat as a personal item either. packhacker.com/travel-gear/goruck/gr3/ Hope this helps! - Rebecca
Pack Hacker Thanks for the response! Given that you could fit The Chunker beneath the seat I was curious how the GR3 would compare. Speaking of which, as a future suggestion it would be insightful to post pictures or GIFs as to how the bags you review fit beneath airline seats as you did with said Chunker. Thanks again!
Vanquest have the skycap out at the moment, for 199 dollars.. is that bag really half as functional, or of build quality, than the goruck?But as you say, it’s all about opinions...
Hey there Mountain Kim Martial Art Spirit Manassas! We used the Peak Design Sling (5L) ( packhacker.com/travel-gear/peak-design/everyday-sling-5l/ ), GORUCK GR2 Field Pouch ( packhacker.com/travel-gear/goruck/gr2-field-pocket/ ), and the eBags Ultralight Packing Cubes ( packhacker.com/travel-gear/ebags/ultralightpackingcubes/ )
I like GORUCK as a company and the challenges, but their bags are overpriced. They took the rather outdated 25+ year old "3 Day Assault" pack design, made it in a couple different sizes and quadrupled the price. There are many companies that produce USA made packs, out of 1000d cordura, with much better designs, features, and organization at around half the cost. Triple Aught Design, Tactical Tailor, Grey Ghost Gear, Mystery Ranch, and LBT are just a few off the top of my head.
We don't support this feature at the moment but it's another great idea! We list the weight in the sidebar for all of our packs so hopefully that helps you for now! - Tom
Thanks for sharing your thoughts with us pebble888, have you tried the GR2 34L? What's your current go-to pack? We'd love to hear what works for you! 😊 - Rebecca
Pack Hacker hi Rebecca I’m afraid I’m a bit of a backpack “ho” and swap between the Aer Travel Pack, Tortuga Setout 35l and the Tom Bihn Brain bag depending on how I’m feeling and nature of travel. Tend to use the Aer for business and Tom Bihn for more leisure trips. I don’t own the GR2 (yet) but I see that the Aer Travel Pack 35l and the GR2 40l dimensions are neigh on the same (GR2 22x12.5x9 vs Aer 21.5x13.5x8.5) so not sure why GR2 34l is always recommended over GR40l . Any ideas? 🙂
Hey pebble888 - it sounds like you have a great system going on here, thanks for sharing this with us! We tested the GR2 40L and it's a solid pack. When it comes to deciding on the size of the backpack, it really does come down to you and your travel style. The difference in aesthetic, weight, size and carry are all factors and what works for one person, may not work for another. Hope this helps - let us know if you have any more questions! 😊👍 - Rebecca
Looks pretty cool but no way i could afford a $400 pack on my min wage salary. I was lucky and get a Dakine ranger basically new for $59 which seems like a great pack for people with less money to spend.
That is not MOLLE. You are right, MOLLE is supposed to be a universal system, tacked at specific intervals for interchangeability. GoRuck has deviated from that standard so as to make only GR pouches fit perfectly. Standard MOLLE pouches will not mount square on GR packs, and my GR pouches will not mount square on non GR packs. Try it. It was kind of disappointing to find out.
Pack Hacker I’ve got 2 GR 1s, a GR2, and attendant GR mountable pouches just so it doesn’t come across like I hate the company. I’m pretty sure the rationale was related to money, which I wouldn’t care about, except that when Companies say MOLLE customers expect all their MOLLE stuff to interchange, regardless of manufacturer. I’m super curious to hear what they say though.
Yo Lightspeed 1138 - that's a lot of GORUCK gear :) Here's what we heard back from GORUCK: "Standard molle is spaced 1 inch apart and in 1 inch intervals. However, most tend to be spaced slightly more to almost 2 inches which is how wide out intervals are. Our molle is spaced wide enough for most molle to function but our bottom molle is a little different since it is thicker and spaced even wider."
Pack Hacker I’ve gotten better but yes I have a thing for packs. After the word “however” their reply is just tap dancing. “Standard MOLLE is 1 inch apart at one inch intervals, ours deviates from the standard”. End of discussion. Thanks for checking with them to see what they said, I appreciate the effort.
This one is pretty cool BUT ive lookin for a very speciall Backpack ... There is a Commercial of it even on RUclips wich shows how the Backpack is loaded with Wood and then throw by a CATAPULT over 50 - 80 Meters and nothin happens to this Backpack In the Commercial also Dude to see wich wear Army Gear PLEASE TELL ME THE NAME IF U KNOW WICH ONE I MEAN
Pack looks cool, but way too heavy for travel. Some of the budget airlines now limit carry on to 7kg. Not much left for contents then! Good to see that the MOLLE webbing is now optional. It looks too tactical for my taste, and there are certainly countries where you don't want to be associated with anything military.
Absolutely correct! The 7Kg rule is in effect on many Euro airlines so 1-2 more lbs on a naked pack is a deal killer. Since this is carry-on luggage it's overkill to have heavy bomb proof materials. More important is weight and size
I owned over two dozen backpacks and have to say Osprey has the MOST comfortable packs! My only grief is the lack of organization and too many loose straps on some models. If I have to walk a greater distance, it is my pack of choice.
No, there is no comparison at all. I used a Farpoint 40L for several years and used it to travel in over 10 countries. My last 4 trips, 3 to Asia and 1 to Europe I used the GR3. It is very much superior to the Farpoiont. The Farpoint is a lightweight flimsy pack that will damage your laptop if you load it full. the GR3 is solid in every way, and the laptop compartment is the best in the business. GR3 is the king of travel packs for one bag travel!
@@PackHacker I'm actually considering this 3 bag right now. Aer Travel pack 2, Dew Avail 35L or Elveden Hunter from Elveden London. Since I currently live in tropical country, where we only got either hot and humid or raining. So the ventilation is kinda priority for comfort carry.
Price is hard to put as a con because it's relative to each person. We try to focus more on value. For instance, GORUCK products have high durability and a solid warranty. In practice, these packs will last longer than other cheaper packs, so to some, the value is worth it! But of course, you're entitle to your opinion and conversations like this are what make this community great!
Pack Hacker while the do have an S shape to them, where they meet the top of the pack, they look kind of thin. This is where I feel they will eventually tear from the bag. I realize it is a ruck, but sinc it is, ultra comfortable, well built straps would complete the bag. Other than that I like the shape, look, and size of the pack.
Hey C Leh - thanks for the follow up! Yeah they're certainly not AS padded on the top area where the strap connects, but we've found them to be pretty reinforced. After 1.5 years of nearly daily use with the GR2 (that uses a similar strap setup), we haven't had an issue. packhacker.com/travel-gear/goruck/gr2/
YO! We've been thinking about doing a quick GR2 vs GR3 comparison video. Give this comment a thumbs up if you'd find that useful.
- Tom
I would definitely appreciate that comparison video. I understand the whole concept of minimal single bag travel and it seems a lot of the videos just focus on the size of the pack with airlines' allowance. How come weight is never mentioned? It's great to have a 40L GR2, but that bag alone weighs 5lbs. Some airlines allow only 15lbs for a carry-on, so that leaves only 10lbs to pack (clothes and laptop). Some laptops weigh almost 5lbs with is charging brick, so that leaves 5lbs. Please weigh your pack after having your cubes in there so we can have a more accurate reading of a 40L, not just the dimensions but also the weight. Thanks Pack Hacker!
Hey rogerman10! We'll chalk up +1 for the comparison video from you!
We list all weights (empty) on the sidebar of our website for packs we review! Take a look at the GR2 review here: packhacker.com/travel-gear/goruck/gr2/
There's definitely a big variance in what folks carry with them for sure (laptop, weight of clothes, electronics, toiletries, jackets).
- Tom
Awesome review. Thanks for the cameo. ;-) The bag looks huge, I doubt that it will be very useful with my height. Looking forward to test it out myself though. Thanks for the great review!
Tom here - definitely Bo! Had a great time with the interview on your channel - we had some great conversation
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I love that you actually wore the bag and put height/weight specs. Saw a dozen videos and none of them wore it.
Hey Overwatch- thanks! We always test out the items we review- glad you're digging it 👍
Arguably the best pack review I've ever seen. Thank you!
You got it, Eddy! 😊🙌
- Rebecca
Someone said PackHacker wasn't the number 1 resource for travel gear reviews. I told them to GORUCK themselves.
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- Rebecca
Your videos are good because you think of stuff that no one really thinks of! You should really collaborate with a few bag designers and make an EDC/ One Bag Travel Backpack under the PackHacker name. Would be a great idea!
Thanks Karan! We try to be as detailed as possible. Good idea too! Maybe we'll consider that for future 🤔- still so many bags to review and react to as well!
- Tom
Was so curious about those compression straps! Thanks man!
Absolutely!
Yes! Been looking forward to this one!
Boom!
Good review. That thing is a beast!
Thanks Ron! Beast, indeed
Just ordered the GR3, cant wait to get my hands on it.
Great choice Vahan! Let us know how it goes 👍
Vahan Muradkhanyan how are you liking the pack considering getting myself one?
Love it! Very durable and well made
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I wish I could like this video more than once!
Thanks Brian! Feel free to share the video on socials - it really helps us out!
- Tom
I own several Goruck backpacks the problem when traveling with these, is that they are very heavy and they take away from the weight limit when traveling on any airline. I had to check several times my GR2 basically carrying my electronics on hand while I was on the plane.
Hey Alex - thanks for sharing your experience with us. The GORUCK GR2 is very heavy weighing 2.15kg without anything in it, so it can become an issue with airlines that have a lower weight threshold. We've found that carrying a lightweight packable daypack with you to transfer your items over into can make the transition a little easier. packhacker.com/guide/best-travel-daypack/#packable 😊
- Rebecca
I have had my GR1 for 5 years now and it is still in great shape. This bag has traveled the world and I have certainly abused this bag. The only problem is that I would like a little extra room sometimes. It’s such a difficult choice between the GR3 and GR2
@Tweed Penguin I'm thinking of getting a GR3 for travel purposes and trying to do a single backup for travel. I usually bring a daypack with me when I travel to places.
I know this is an old post now, but I bought a GR2 initially, sent it back for a GR3. I now also own a GR1. They complement each other well for different levels of travel. I just felt like the GR2 was very inefficient with space since it is 2 compartments.
@@Tsyras I appreciate it. I still haven’t replaced my GR1. What size GR2 did you buy and return? I liked the idea of organization with the GR2. Do you feel the GR3 is too big?
@@Denali_Rebel 34L GR2. I have the 26L GR1. The GR3 is big, but I am 6’1”, so it doesn’t feel huge to me. I use packing cubes though, and feel like there is more than enough pockets for my “loose” items. I typically travel with the GR1 paired with a Recycled Firefighter 72-hour Duffle. It is pretty heavy walking the long treks through airports, but it feels so much more nimble than dealing with a rolling bag.
GR3 is used much less, but I am still glad to have it. I plan on using it next week on a trip paired with a Retrospective 7 camera bag.
@@Tsyras I appreciate the response. I am trying to figure out packing cubes effectively. What brand do you like? GR3 sounds big but has more possibilities.
Great review and also just enjoyed your Outlier pants review. This looks like a great bag and has some nice features including the laptop section.BUT, I have some issues with it as a one bag, travel anywhere item. It "may not be compatible" will all airlines carry on limits. That's a deal breaker for me. Its not that light as the bells and whistles in terms of added material and features adds weight. At 2.2 kg it eats into the international standard of 7kg max carry on. It's very expensive at US$455!! As a comparison I have been using the Mei Voyageur bag the last 10 years. Similar materials over a Lb lighter and made in the U.S. Is the largest size allowable for international carry on. Has an awesome harness, a detachable shoulder strap to use as a sling or can be carried brief case style. It doesn't have a laptop section though. Doesn't have the molly attachments etc but that makes it super light for the light as possible purists like me. The kicker is its only $135 US. Thats a huge difference. 10 years of international use and the material has not faded or ripped. Not connected in anyway to the company. Im just an Aussie who loves to travel light.
Thanks for providing your insights here 26realmc! As you've pointed out, the weight (and size) can definitely cut into limits on international airlines. We'll add the Mei Voyageur to our ever-growing pack list :)
Tom
thanks,great information..I'm going to check out this GR3 and see if I can get some for my team of skaters/trainers..
Of course michael s- glad we could help out!
I'm looking for larger packing cubes to fit into the GR3, as a base layer, like in this video. I like the Eagle Creek stuff but their largest cube the PACK-IT™ REVEAL seems too big for this bag. Any suggestions on other larger sized cubes that could fit?
the GR2 and GR3 back frame sheet , it also takes the AR500 Armor plates oh yes !!
Just unboxed a GR3, and my first thought was in line with a lot of these comments -- damn, it's heavy! Got it to compare with an Arc'teryx Assault 45 (formerly Khard 45, just barely over carry-on dimensions, but hear you can skate by), which I'll probably keep regardless of other potential comparisons, because it's awesome. Also considering a Tom Bihn Aeronaut 45, but I'd primarily use it in backpack mode. I've never handled one in person, but it looks like it'd suck as a backpack when fully loaded. I also have an Osprey Farpoint 40, and it's a bit small -- and awkward to pack, when including a laptop -- in both carry capacity and body length for me. Looking for something at max US airline carry-on dimensions, for casual business and vacation travel. Thoughts?
Nice! We've got the Aeronaut 45 on our shortlist and are curious about the harness system, too.
As far as the max US airline carry-on dimensions, for casual/business/vacation, you've got 2 good options on your list already :)
We haven't reviewed either of these, but have you taken a look at the Patagonia Black Hole? packha.kr/d8qa How about the Tortuga Outbreaker? packha.kr/q984 - They're both "blocky" and sized for maximum carry.
Good luck and let us know what you decide on!
Pack Hacker thanks for the suggestions! I'd looked online at the older version of the MLC (not the Black Hole), and wasn't sure about its strap system either. I've seen some more recent reviews for the MLC which look more convincing, and the Black Hole version seems nice (if a bit on the colorful side). I'm dubious of the flimsiness of the sailcloth material on the Tortugas (for shape retention, and durability), but otherwise like their functional style.
Awesome Daniel! We ran into some durability issues with the Tortuga Homebase (mainly aesthetic marks on the sailcloth - still works really well though), however, their new Setout is larger than the Homebase AND it has a Polyester exterior if that's your jam: packha.kr/eb16 (we'll have a full review up soon)
Thanks, the Setout does look pretty nice. Looking forward to the review.
Very cool review. Do we know if goruck will include the new features in the Gr1? These bags are like the iPhone of backpack, very fancy features and expensive and getting bigger (screen) for every new version 😂
Hah - incredible observation Takahashi! "GR1 8s Plus" 😂
We're not sure what they'll include on future GR1, but they likely won't include a hip belt and compression straps due to the smaller size.
- Tom
Is this size ok for carry on luggage ?
What is your height and shirt size, want to compare to myself to see if not to big ?.
Is this bike good for riding in the snow
Does it feel like the hip belt is absorbing a significant amount of the load?
Hey azazelRising72 - yes - it's fully integrated with the pack when attached. There's more absorption if you compare it to the GR2's attachable MOLLE hip belt, too. Of course, this all depends on your height & torso size as well, but it does the job well.
I'm considering getting one of these but I have one major concern, it doesn't look very comfortable (compared to the straps and back padding of the osprey farpoint 40 or something) and I know it's a bit of a subjective question but do you personally find the bag comfortable? Could you happily walk to a hostel a few miles away and not complain about the arm straps or back padding getting uncomfortable if you were carrying 7 - 10kg worth of stuff ?
They take about a month or two to break in, but once they're broken in, they're super comfortable. Never had an issue!
Pack Hacker okay thanks !
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Holy crap that thing is enormous. I’m 5’11” and want to check it out. Nervous on the size though. There’s no way that thing passes international carry on standards.
It's a beast! Here's a handy tool to see if an airline will allow it :) www.carryonbagsizes.com/
- Tom
Pack Hacker I love that guide :) i just spent 2 weeks in Europe and KLM and Air France were giving me grief over my AER Travel Pack lol. I got into an argument about inches and centimeters with a gate check agent hahaha
Josh - great guide! Wow - that's unfortunate with the AER Travel Pack, KLM, and Air France! Did they end up letting you on? Was there anything hanging off the pack or anything, making it appear larger?
- Tom
Pack Hacker they let me take it on eventually. Just being a pain with me haha.
Whew!
Hey Tom, love your review videos. There's a bag out there with very few reviews from a travel perspective. If there's a way for you to snag one somehow, i'd enjoy your review on it. Its an american made pack by Spec Ops Brand. Its called The UAP.
Thanks for sharing Joshua! We'll stick this one on our radar and see about fitting it in. What draws you to it if you don't mind us asking?
Hey Tom, this bag is too big for someone of 5^6" height? Do you recomend the Gr2 34L for 6 months traveling? Or the Minaal?
Hey poorpolarbear! Tom here. Hard to say and it depends on your torso length as well. GR2 34L could definitely do 6 months of travel and the Minaal is a good choice too!
We left a little comparison of the GR2 vs the Minaal Carry-on 2.0 in the comments of this video if you want to check it out: ruclips.net/video/O3EplEYzvBY/видео.html
Good luck!
Hey Tom... loving your reviews. I'm about to finally buy a new backpack and I'm between the GR2 and Timbuk2 Wander Pack. I'd by the GR2 if it had side handles (like the GR3, but those aren't centered and I do want the option to carry it like a briefcase). Quick question. What's the backpack that is right behind you in this video, lower row, first one to your left (our right)?
Hey Gerard - solid choices! That's the Tortuga Setout (we haven't published a full review yet but will be soon!): packha.kr/eb16
Good luck with your selection,
Tom
The problem with Gocruck packs is that they are VERY heavy in weight. 4.59 lbs? It weights more than (2) ThinkPad 14" x1 laptop or about 7 days of cloths. People who choose to travel with backpack instead of roller usually prefer a lighter bag. The difference will be day and night especially in summer.
And 5.15 pounds with the hip belt :) It's a heavy one!
What pack do you use Paul?
- Tom
I love one bag travel, what do you recommend for a 30 to 35 liter bag with a hip belt. 40 liter bags are too much I know I can get away with 30 or 35 liters, but have not found the right one yet.
Hey William! Thanks for stopping by. Check out the Cotopaxi Allpa 35L ( packhacker.com/travel-gear/cotopaxi/allpa-35l-travel-pack/ ) or the EVERGOODS Mountain Panel Loader 30 ( packhacker.com/travel-gear/evergoods/mountain-panel-loader-30/ )
Yo PH,have you reviewed the CamelBak Coronado? if so, what materials they've used a polyester or a cordura.. ty😊😊
Tbh , this backpack reminds me both Standard's Carry-On Backpack and CabinZero Military Backpack but the price of Goruck again is insane. I undersand this to be a value for money but still and thanks god there is a plethora of other variants to choose from
There are a ton of MLC choices out there!
Good morning from Athens, Greece. You do make nice videos as far explaining the true abilities of each bag sice the needs of each individual are different. I wanted to ask you about the prices of bags like this.why are they so expensive? Is only because of the materials?thanks in advance and keep up the good job!
Hey Kostas! Thank you! Agreed - everyone's need is different when it comes to packs. We usually go for packs that are durable & will last a long time. The GR3 is definitely on the expensive side (one of the most expensive packs we've reviewed). Most of it is because of materials. High-grade nylon, Big YKK zippers, (and, in the case of GORUCK, made in the USA, which tends to be more expensive). With more expensive packs, our thought is to buy one expensive pack once vs replacing a cheaper one every couple of years. We may get into more budget packs soon though! Especially if we're able to do a long-term test and verify durability.
- Tom
Probably not helpful to you in Athens, Kostas, but for the rest of y'all, GoRuck offers a 25% discount (!!) on apparently everything for active military, first responders, students, teachers, and government employees, verified via id.me (probably USA-centric).
Hi. would you use this as a daily everyday backpack? I do carry heavy coats everyday in addition to my computer, water, and the occasional supermarket purchase. I am 188cm / 6'2" and 90kilos / 180 pounds. Thank you very much
Very interesting. I'm wondering how this will fare as a checked bag though? As a shorter guy, this is too big for me to comfortably carry-on, but as a checked bag, I think it might be a nice alternative to rolling luggage.
Because of the way GoRuck designs their strap and laptop compartment I wonder if I can actually stow the straps into the laptop compartment, and the bottom attachment loops into the hip belt pass-thru so I won't have any straps dangling around? Anyone know if that's doable? Can the straps fit into the laptop compartment, all zippered up?
Hey Josh! The main thing you'll get with standard roller luggage is a harder compartment. Although the GR3 is super strong, it's not going to provide hard casing for items like a standard, hard suitcase would. Doesn't mean it won't work for checking the bag, but that's something to keep in mind if you have fragile items inside!
As far as the stowing of the straps goes, there's not really an elegant solution GORUCK provides. You may be able to work out some MacGyver-ing, however, the laptop compartment only opens up 1/2 way, making the far strap hard to stow.
great review! price aside, would love to see how this new gr3 compares to similar-sized packs. thanks!
Thanks PN! We may have a review of another large travel pack or two in the works :)
- Tom
Which do you prefer to travel with. I have the GR2 but am thinking about returning it for the GR3 and a bullet bag. So which do you prefer to travel with?
A smaller bag is typically better if you can get away with bringing less gear Jeffrey! Let us know what you land on.
- Tom
I have decided to return the GR2 and purchase the GR3 and a 10l bullet ruk. I have the Gr1 26l, the 30l kit bag, and now will have the GR3 and 10l Bullet. That should allow me to mix and match for small and long trips. The GR2 is great but sometimes to much organization is best. I’m excited to have that 4 bag combo and should be able to mix and match as needed.
Awesome Jeffrey - thank you for following up here! Sounds like a great setup.
- Tom
I want to buy a goruck of at least 40 liters, but I cannot find in Europe. Where can I find a dealer inside the European Union, to avoid import fees ?
Keus store sometimes have them, but have been out of stock for a while
How is it for putting beneath an airline seat (if you tried)?
Thank you for making this review!
Hey Draphilius - the GORUCK GR3 just about fits into the one bag travel category because at 45L this pack is pretty big. We haven't tried fitting this under the seat, but depending on what airline you're flying with it's going to be a pretty tight squeeze, especially if this bag is fully packed. We also recommend taking a look at the airlines you're flying with for their individual specifications.
In addition to this, you can also check out our Carry-On Compliance feature on our full written review. Although this is a guideline for carry-on compliance, if this pack isn't carry-on compliant for a certain airline, chances are it's not going to be able to fit under the seat as a personal item either. packhacker.com/travel-gear/goruck/gr3/
Hope this helps!
- Rebecca
Pack Hacker Thanks for the response! Given that you could fit The Chunker beneath the seat I was curious how the GR3 would compare. Speaking of which, as a future suggestion it would be insightful to post pictures or GIFs as to how the bags you review fit beneath airline seats as you did with said Chunker. Thanks again!
hi, what would fit more stuff, this gr3 or a tortuga setout 45 liters? Thanks
Hey Oscar! It’s close, but likely the GR3. It’s boxier and one big compartment. - Tom
Vanquest have the skycap out at the moment, for 199 dollars.. is that bag really half as functional, or of build quality, than the goruck?But as you say, it’s all about opinions...
Hey Facts TRUMP feelings FTF - we haven't checked out the Vanquest but we'll see what it's all about 👍
Weight? Can I ask you a video with the 5 top lightest? where the weight is the main thing? thanks
Hi Mango! This is a great idea for a video - thank you!
Can you tell me what's the name of the cubes you used in the video?
Thanks for the review.
Hey there Mountain Kim Martial Art Spirit Manassas! We used the Peak Design Sling (5L) ( packhacker.com/travel-gear/peak-design/everyday-sling-5l/ ), GORUCK GR2 Field Pouch ( packhacker.com/travel-gear/goruck/gr2-field-pocket/ ),
and the eBags Ultralight Packing Cubes ( packhacker.com/travel-gear/ebags/ultralightpackingcubes/ )
Pack Hacker Thank you so much!
Anytime!
Do you think the bag is too big compared to the GR2? I'm a shorter guy at 5'6" - 5'7".
Have you tried the 34L GR2? As a note, the 40L GR2 and the GR3 have the same "height"! Good luck TheGuin, hope that helps!
I like GORUCK as a company and the challenges, but their bags are overpriced. They took the rather outdated 25+ year old "3 Day Assault" pack design, made it in a couple different sizes and quadrupled the price. There are many companies that produce USA made packs, out of 1000d cordura, with much better designs, features, and organization at around half the cost. Triple Aught Design, Tactical Tailor, Grey Ghost Gear, Mystery Ranch, and LBT are just a few off the top of my head.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts here, Thergood! We've got TAD & Mystery Ranch on our list at the moment. Stay tuned :)
Whats the most affordable bag thats durable enough to carry weights
@@rampartd.1100 +1
I am lookiong at your website: how can I order the luggages by weight?
We don't support this feature at the moment but it's another great idea! We list the weight in the sidebar for all of our packs so hopefully that helps you for now!
- Tom
Hi Tom, how long are the shoulder straps. best regards Tim.
Hey Tim - good question! We'll figure this out & get back to you when we have an answer.
- Tom
Hey Tim! The straps of the GR3 are 48 CM in length.
Hope this helps!
-Hannah
Awesome, thanks Hannah for the measurment. Tim
@@timhell8420 No problem at all!
I wish they did a 35l of the gr3
Thanks for sharing your thoughts with us pebble888, have you tried the GR2 34L? What's your current go-to pack? We'd love to hear what works for you! 😊
- Rebecca
Pack Hacker hi Rebecca I’m afraid I’m a bit of a backpack “ho” and swap between the Aer Travel Pack, Tortuga Setout 35l and the Tom Bihn Brain bag depending on how I’m feeling and nature of travel. Tend to use the Aer for business and Tom Bihn for more leisure trips. I don’t own the GR2 (yet) but I see that the Aer Travel Pack 35l and the GR2 40l dimensions are neigh on the same (GR2 22x12.5x9 vs Aer 21.5x13.5x8.5) so not sure why GR2 34l is always recommended over GR40l . Any ideas? 🙂
Hey pebble888 - it sounds like you have a great system going on here, thanks for sharing this with us! We tested the GR2 40L and it's a solid pack. When it comes to deciding on the size of the backpack, it really does come down to you and your travel style. The difference in aesthetic, weight, size and carry are all factors and what works for one person, may not work for another. Hope this helps - let us know if you have any more questions! 😊👍
- Rebecca
You should also do an EDC video.
Hey Juan! So much to cover with travel - that's our main focus at the moment
Looks pretty cool but no way i could afford a $400 pack on my min wage salary. I was lucky and get a Dakine ranger basically new for $59 which seems like a great pack for people with less money to spend.
That is not MOLLE. You are right, MOLLE is supposed to be a universal system, tacked at specific intervals for interchangeability. GoRuck has deviated from that standard so as to make only GR pouches fit perfectly. Standard MOLLE pouches will not mount square on GR packs, and my GR pouches will not mount square on non GR packs. Try it. It was kind of disappointing to find out.
Yo Lightspeed 1138 - interesting observation! Thanks for sharing! We're going to reach out to GORUCK and see if there was any rationale for this.
Pack Hacker I’ve got 2 GR 1s, a GR2, and attendant GR mountable pouches just so it doesn’t come across like I hate the company. I’m pretty sure the rationale was related to money, which I wouldn’t care about, except that when Companies say MOLLE customers expect all their MOLLE stuff to interchange, regardless of manufacturer. I’m super curious to hear what they say though.
Yo Lightspeed 1138 - that's a lot of GORUCK gear :)
Here's what we heard back from GORUCK:
"Standard molle is spaced 1 inch apart and in 1 inch intervals. However, most tend to be spaced slightly more to almost 2 inches which is how wide out intervals are. Our molle is spaced wide enough for most molle to function but our bottom molle is a little different since it is thicker and spaced even wider."
Pack Hacker I’ve gotten better but yes I have a thing for packs. After the word “however” their reply is just tap dancing. “Standard MOLLE is 1 inch apart at one inch intervals, ours deviates from the standard”. End of discussion. Thanks for checking with them to see what they said, I appreciate the effort.
You bet - glad we got to the bottom of it. Thanks for bringing it up! I'm sure this comment will help other folks, too.
This one is pretty cool
BUT ive lookin for a very speciall Backpack ...
There is a Commercial of it even on RUclips wich shows how the Backpack is loaded with Wood and then throw by a CATAPULT over 50 - 80 Meters and nothin happens to this Backpack
In the Commercial also Dude to see wich wear Army Gear
PLEASE TELL ME THE NAME IF
U KNOW WICH ONE I MEAN
Hey DAMMSE420 - we haven't seen this video, let us know if you find it! 👍
- Rebecca
Heavy af for a backpack. That is a big con...5.15 lbs eats up a lot of that weight limit for carry on. 33% for a 7 kg limit to be exact
Yep! It's a heavy one
Those 2 extra lbs over competitor bags is a deal killer. This is carry on to prevent stingy airline fees for crissakes.
Pack looks cool, but way too heavy for travel. Some of the budget airlines now limit carry on to 7kg. Not much left for contents then! Good to see that the MOLLE webbing is now optional. It looks too tactical for my taste, and there are certainly countries where you don't want to be associated with anything military.
Good points! The pack is definitely heavy! On some airlines it'll be fine. Others, there may be an issue
Absolutely correct! The 7Kg rule is in effect on many Euro airlines so 1-2 more lbs on a naked pack is a deal killer. Since this is carry-on luggage it's overkill to have heavy bomb proof materials. More important is weight and size
big bags r the only way to go!! my edc is often mostly my 5.11 rush 72. 55liters why dont people like bigger bags size matters!!!
Nice bag, but I can't quite wrap my head around a carryon that costs more than all its contents.
Les IsMore - what’s your ideal price range for a pack?
nice, but it can't be compare with osprey farpoint jajaj
I owned over two dozen backpacks and have to say Osprey has the MOST comfortable packs! My only grief is the lack of organization and too many loose straps on some models. If I have to walk a greater distance, it is my pack of choice.
Osprey makes some great packs, too! All depends what you're looking for.
No, there is no comparison at all. I used a Farpoint 40L for several years and used it to travel in over 10 countries. My last 4 trips, 3 to Asia and 1 to Europe I used the GR3. It is very much superior to the Farpoiont. The Farpoint is a lightweight flimsy pack that will damage your laptop if you load it full. the GR3 is solid in every way, and the laptop compartment is the best in the business. GR3 is the king of travel packs for one bag travel!
Thanks Kevin for your comment, i will keep it on my mind ! :D
EXPENSIVE
Hey Hector - it sure is, but it will last forever!! 👍
- Rebecca
That thing is heavyy. It weighs more than my big leather duffel (23"11"11").
Hey potatomatoe - the bag is bit heavier than other bags and highly durable.
Boom. America
No back padded in 45L bag? Wow.. Just a no no.. I don't need a tank. I need a comfy backpack.
Hey Ben, what pack do you prefer?
-Hannah
@@PackHacker I'm actually considering this 3 bag right now. Aer Travel pack 2, Dew Avail 35L or Elveden Hunter from Elveden London. Since I currently live in tropical country, where we only got either hot and humid or raining. So the ventilation is kinda priority for comfort carry.
Understandable, Ben. Let us know what you end up choosing!
-Hannah
$545.00 ??? No way
Thanks for sharing your thoughts with us Maciej Pomaranski! 👍
- Rebecca
His first con shoulda been, it’s seriously overpriced, for what is a very basic boxy bag
Price is hard to put as a con because it's relative to each person. We try to focus more on value. For instance, GORUCK products have high durability and a solid warranty. In practice, these packs will last longer than other cheaper packs, so to some, the value is worth it! But of course, you're entitle to your opinion and conversations like this are what make this community great!
300$
Boooooorrrrrrriiiiiiiiinnnng
Sounds like you're not a fan Jeff, what's your go-to pack? We'd love to hear what works for you! 😊
- Rebecca
Pack looks cool. Straps look like trash.
Can you provide a little more detail on "trash"? Anything you would want that would improve it?
Tom
Pack Hacker while the do have an S shape to them, where they meet the top of the pack, they look kind of thin. This is where I feel they will eventually tear from the bag. I realize it is a ruck, but sinc it is, ultra comfortable, well built straps would complete the bag. Other than that I like the shape, look, and size of the pack.
Hey C Leh - thanks for the follow up! Yeah they're certainly not AS padded on the top area where the strap connects, but we've found them to be pretty reinforced. After 1.5 years of nearly daily use with the GR2 (that uses a similar strap setup), we haven't had an issue. packhacker.com/travel-gear/goruck/gr2/
Way fucking overpriced. I have bags one quarter that price that have lasted for over a decade.
Diminishing returns. It's just cordura nylon.
Which bags have you had luck with?
- Tom
$455!!!! Are you kidding. NO. Just no.
Hey Ben Dover- have you found a pack you prefer that's in your budget? We're always looking for new items to check out!