Erens goal was never to die so his friends could become the heros. He genuinely wanted to wipe out the rest of humanity, just so happened to be a win win no matter if he was stopped or not. As his primary goal was to ensure his friends lived happy long lives. Wiping the rest of the world did that and so does his friends stopping him to become the hero. Its never an act for Eren. One of the best aspects of his character is that he is an idiot. Hes an idiot who got incredible power. He is an angry idiot who loves his friends, and got incredible power. This is the main difference for me between Le Louch and Eren. Le Louch gets incredible power and is hyper intelligent. Eren gets incredible power and is a relatively regular person who never shines until he gets his power. For me this makes AOT a more interesting story (i loved code back when i watched it too)and one of my favourites of all time.
@@Zhwach999 He literally said he didn't want to die, but that it was inevitable. And Eren's plan wasn't just for his friends to become heroes. Either he wipes out all humanity outside the walls, so his friends are safe and will live a long life. Or his friends stop him, so they're seen as heroes and live a long life. His plan was two alternatives in which he wins in both cases.
@@marcgittard9534 Doing a 100% rumbling was definitely better. It eliminates the risk of the world continuing the cycle of hatred and guarantees the future of the island. Eren really only stops at 80% just to make his friends feel better about themselves
how do people make videos on eren and lelouch when actually BOTH CHARACTERS MOTIVATIONS ARENT EVEN REMOTELY SIMILAR? lelouch is a selfless character and Eren isnt lol he literally hid his selfish desire of seeing the outside world as a plain sight BEHIND a noble cause of saving paradise/friends saving paradise/friends IS AN EXCUSE to achieve his own personal desire......... EXACTLY LIKE REINER who also hid his selfish desire of gaining respect BEHIND a noble cause of saving the world and this is the whole reason why eren in s4 ep5 says to reiner 'I AM THE SAME AS YOU REINER'....................
@@AM17titan You missed the point. It's not the character that is similar, it's their character arc. Eren's character development made too much sense for it to be an act, that's why the ending didn't work for a lot of people
@@lehothaiduong4363 what development are you even talking about that is the point i am not understanding lol you first said understanding the world , okay i agree with that BUT what does that have to do with the ending? i am not understanding where did eren deviated from his goal? did people like you seriously believed that he will finish off mikasa and armin even though kruger says to grisha 'to save mikasa and armin' ? (you do know right that it is actually eren sending his memories to kruger FOR KRUGER TO SAY IT TO GRISHA?, eren sended memories to his past shifters after gaining the founder and thats the only reason why ONLY THE ATTACK TITAN WASNT CAUGHT BY MARLEY) that is just not even paying attention to the story
and what character development you mean? when eren literally says 'I AM THE SAME AS I ALWAYS HAVE BEEN' to zeke in s4 ep20 LOL there is no character development regarding eren ONLY HIS PERSPECTIVE CHANGED
@@AM17titan Reiner: You said you would make it your mission to us die the most excruciating death possible. That's why you're here isn't it? Eren: Oh... Did I say that? Well... Let's forget about that Is it too much to say that this is character development?
@@lehothaiduong4363 didnt he transformed in that episode itself possibly killing reiner? AND LIKE I SAID HIS PERSPECTIVE CHANGED....he now knew the truth but even after that he still was about to kill reiner and falco
@@lehothaiduong4363 BEAR WITH ME PRETTY PLEASE this can be long but it explains everything whole s4 ep5 episode was like this..... Eren was basically taunting reiner like 'you were forced to attack paradise to save the world, you were just kids....that would have been too much on you , YOU DIDNT HAD ANY CHOICE , right reiner?' BUT WHAT HAPPENED AFTER ? Reiner went down on his knees, cried and said 'NO EREN YOU ARE WRONG, I DID HAD A CHOICE , but i still did it because i wanted to gain everyone's respect for me' WAHT IS ERENS REPLY TO THIS? 'Like i thought , I AM THE SAME AS YOU' in the same way when eren beats up those men to save ramzi HE SAYS 'I AM THE SAME AS YOU REINER, a half assed piece of shit' and then admitted that 'saving the island, paradise BUT THERE IS MORE TO THIS, when i realised that the outside world wasnt the same as armins book , i was disappointed, i wanted to wipe everything away, I WANTED THIS' AND then what we see? KID EREN ENJOYING FREEDOM ( THIS IS THE EXACT SAME FORM OF EREN WHO WAS FIRST SHOWN BOOK TO ARMIN) btw eren is closing his eyes as he cant see the horror of it , he is a hypocrite because at least villains enjoy killing to achieve their goals BUT he is crying as well as enjoying it just like reiner says to himself in s2 ep6 'I AM A HALF ASSED PIECE OF SHIT' he says this because he is crying even thought he wants to kill everyone in paradise to achieve his own selfish desire'
@@AM17titan A character changing their perspective, which indicates growth, learning, and a deeper understanding of the world, themselves, or others, is the definition of character development, no?
@@lehothaiduong4363 yea i guess you are right on that BUT again that didnt amounted nothing to eren because just like titans , he hates the outside world yes his understanding of the world became bigger BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY IT DIDNT AMOUNTED TO ANYTHING as for armin and others because of their understanding of the world better, they didnt wanted to kill them all BUT FOR EREN ITS THE SAME RESULT before and after which is to KILL to see the world as plain sight yes he hates the titans because they are a threat to humanity BUT HE MAINLY (primary reason) HATES THE TITANS BECAUSE THEY BLOCK HIS VIEW
Eren never went against his ultimate goal. He still wanted to wipe out humanity but he had more than 1 goal. He was conflicted due to his nature to want to destroy humanity & fight for "freedom", he wanted to find a solution that would keep his friends & ppl safe for he rest of their current lives, & he had a part of himself that realized he felt bad bout wantin to kill the rest of humanity. His plan was to fulfill all his conflictin goals to the best of his ability even if that meant he had to die for it(tho he also didn't want to die). This doesn't contradict but rather adds extra layers of conflictin ideals on him on top of the ones he alr had
Hey, can I get your opinion? Do you think the majority of AOT viewers struggle to comprehend basic writing skills? Most of the people I've seen think the ending was good or at worst, fine.
how ironical because i dont understand your type of people....how did you guys even missed the point of the ramzi conversation in chapter 131 and also the most important line regarding erens character which is 'REINER, I AM THE SAME AS YOU' ?? ITS JUST STUPID LOL
@AM17titan What does that Reiner line and Ramzi conversation mean to you? I interpreted it as Eren, despite knowing that the people outside the walls are no different from him, still choosing to kill them when they declare war. He's the same as Reiner because he keeps moving forward until his enemies are crushed, even though he knows his enemies are not all evil. The conversation with Ramzi isn't that interesting. Eren is disappointed that the outside world is hostile and disgusted with himself for killing so many innocent people.
@@lehothaiduong4363 bear with me pretty please because this can be a bit long whole s4 ep5 episode was like this..... Eren was basically saying to reiner like 'you were forced to attack paradise to save the world, you were just kids....that would have been too much on you , YOU DIDNT HAD ANY CHOICE , right reiner?' BUT WHAT HAPPENED AFTER ? Reiner went down on his knees, cried and said 'NO EREN YOU ARE WRONG, I DID HAD A CHOICE , but i still did it because i wanted to gain everyone's respect for me' WAHT IS ERENS REPLY TO THIS? 'Like i thought , I AM THE SAME AS YOU' in the same way when eren saves ramzi HE SAYS 'I AM THE SAME AS YOU REINER, a half assed piece of sh*t' and then admitted that 'saving the island, paradise BUT THERE IS MORE TO THIS, when i realised that the outside world wasnt the same as armins book , i was disappointed, i wanted to wipe everything away, I WANTED THIS' AND then what we see? KID EREN ENJOYING FREEDOM ( THIS IS THE EXACT SAME FORM OF EREN WHO WAS FIRST SHOWN BOOK FROM ARMIN) btw eren is closing his eyes as he cant see the horror of it , he is a hypocrite because at least villains enjoy killing to achieve their goals BUT he is crying as well as enjoying it just like reiner says to himself in s2 ep6 'I AM A HALF ASSED PIECE OF SH*T' he says this because he is crying even thought he wants to kill everyone in paradise to achieve his own selfish desire'
@@AM17titan What choice did Eren have in that scene? Kill everyone or let them freely declare war on the island. The latter doesn't seem advantageous at all. Yes, Eren wanted to destroy his enemies and secure a future for his island. This is his motivation. The Ramzi scene has been confirmed by the author that Eren is disappointed that humanity outside the wall is hostile and cruel towards paradis and each other. You can't argue about anything in this scene. Also does Eren even have a selfish desire? He wants his friends to live long lives, and wants to protect the island. The rumbling isn't what he wants, it's the means to achieve what he wants. The world forced him to go this path, if the world accepted peace, the rumbling wouldn't happen.
@@lehothaiduong4363 where did isayama confirmed that? eren literally has a selfish desire lmao thats the only reason he says 'I AM THE SAME AS YOU REINER' AFTER reiner admits that he destroyed the wall not to save the world but for to gain respect idk how you are putting eren on a pedestal of this good being when he is LITERALLY ENJOYING THE FREEDOM SCENE LOL and always MENTIONS THE 'SIGHT' he mentions this back in s4 ep21 to zeke 'WHAT A SIGHT IT WAS'..... and also after the freedom scene he is literally looking at armin and says 'right armin?' and after what did armin says ? 'the outside world wasnt a plain sight like we imagined' to annie i am not bringing these quotes on interpretation ITS LITERALLY SHOWN IN THE EPIOSDE/MANGA yes eren had many choices HE COULD HAVE COOPERATED WITH ARMIN who is btw much smarter than him but didnt and as a result SASHA dies lol this is where your contradictory lines arises.....he wants to save his friends but in the process KILLS SASHA,HANGE,FLOCH lol
I don’t think Eren’s actions at the end are inconsistent with his goal. From the beginning his main goal was eliminate the titans, both as revenge for them killing his mother and as revenge for them keeping him confined to the walls. When he finds out about the outside world and that the outside world was 100% onboard with keeping him confined he transferred his desire for revenge to the outside world. But more than that he had access to the Attack Titan’s future memories and knew that taking these actions would eliminate titans from the world, thus fulfilling his primary motivation. I also think the downside of the attack Titan is that its users essentially become slaves to their own fate, unable to make decisions that would change the ultimate course of events that leads to Ymir’s moving on. We see this with Grisha begging Zeke to stop Eren, while that seems odd because that Grisha had the ability to stop Eren by simply not giving him the Attack Titan I think that he was essentially forced by the Attack Titan to pass it to Eren. For him revealing he had feelings for Mikasa that does come out of left field considering Eren hadn’t particularly shown any romantic interest in anyone.
in the final episode he literally says that he didn't do it to save his friends, and that was a front for his real selfish goal. Line by line says that
Bro you can't criticize AOT, AoT is a perfect anime/manga, its the best out there. Nothing is better than AoT despite the inconsistency and plot holes we're gonna ignore those because AoT is peak fiction.
Rarely have I seen so much bullshit in a video and someone who understands a character so poorly. Since season 1, it's been clear that Eren is extremely frustrated by the fact that he's constantly being saved by Mikasa. This frustration wouldn't make sense if he wasn't in love with her, because he'd have no reason to be frustrated about being saved by the one he'd see as a sister. Only if he's in love with her does it make sense, because he thinks he's not worthy of her until he can save her in turn. That's why he refused her kiss at the end of season 2, because it would be an admission of defeat. And in season 4, he literally said word for word that his friends are his most precious possession, and he wishes them a long and happy life. This makes perfect sense with Eren's need for freedom, present from the start, as he has always seen being enclosed within walls as an obstacle to his and humanity's happiness. So him being ready to do anything to protect his friends and the island makes perfect sense, which is therefore linked to his need to protect his friends, which is also linked to his need to protect Mikasa, whom he loves.
@@lehothaiduong4363 you don’t need characters saying ‘I love you’ every episode to say they are a couple Every time when eren says ‘home’ mikasa is in it as well Same goes for mikasa as well
yea with the girl who he had zero romantic interactions with ...okay! and with a girl who he literally put her in guilt in chapter 130 i believe when historia was willing to sacrifice herself because genocide is bad BUT eren reminded that she is the worst girl in humanity and she should put herself over humanity and basically become selfish
@@kennyulysse2163 so what are you saying? eren shouldnt show emotions? he is btw on his deathbed about to be killed by his own best friend and cant live with his girl forever lol if he is stoic in that situation you cant even call him human at that point lol...he will be just a robot
Yeah forsaking the girl who was always there for him and going after a girl who gives him thrill and has greater social standing than him. Yeah right seems like typical low life male behaviour..
I could write a book about your ignorance to fill the library of Alexandria 7 times and 14 more times to analyze the complexity of AoTs story and Erens character. AoT should be taught in schools and the fact that you don't get it shows the story's high complexity and that it's not for everyone. Better keep watching Code Geass it's more for you man (probably the worst written anime of all time tied with SAO)
This reeks of illiteracy so bad, anyone with a basic understanding of subtext would realise that eren was lying about his reasoning for the rumbling to his friends so they could see him in a sympathetic light. His actions were incongruent with his words and armin literally calls him out on it. Eren admits he did it for himself more than anything else Eren never wanted to make his buddies heroes or any of that nonsense, from a selfless stsndpoint he wanted to save his island and eliminate the titan curse, which is why he had Mikasa and gang kill him. Light and eren are fundamentally different characters, comparing them is illiteracy if anything. Boxing eren into a trope like lelouch means disregarding his complexity.... But that's to be expected from somebody who exclusively analyses manga/anime, most of you clowns have zero reading comprehension skills whatsoever
Yeah this guy is either a psudeo intellectual weeb or a rage baiter. Just cause you see code geass two or three times doesn’t mean you become as smart as Lelouch
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Erens goal was never to die so his friends could become the heros. He genuinely wanted to wipe out the rest of humanity, just so happened to be a win win no matter if he was stopped or not. As his primary goal was to ensure his friends lived happy long lives. Wiping the rest of the world did that and so does his friends stopping him to become the hero.
Its never an act for Eren. One of the best aspects of his character is that he is an idiot. Hes an idiot who got incredible power. He is an angry idiot who loves his friends, and got incredible power.
This is the main difference for me between Le Louch and Eren. Le Louch gets incredible power and is hyper intelligent. Eren gets incredible power and is a relatively regular person who never shines until he gets his power. For me this makes AOT a more interesting story (i loved code back when i watched it too)and one of my favourites of all time.
That would be a better ending if eren didn’t say that his whole plan was to die so his friends would be seen as heroes in the last episode
@@Zhwach999 He literally said he didn't want to die, but that it was inevitable. And Eren's plan wasn't just for his friends to become heroes. Either he wipes out all humanity outside the walls, so his friends are safe and will live a long life. Or his friends stop him, so they're seen as heroes and live a long life. His plan was two alternatives in which he wins in both cases.
@@marcgittard9534
Doing a 100% rumbling was definitely better. It eliminates the risk of the world continuing the cycle of hatred and guarantees the future of the island. Eren really only stops at 80% just to make his friends feel better about themselves
LELOUCH MY GOAT
The inability of people understanding Eren's motivatioms continues.
how do people make videos on eren and lelouch when actually BOTH CHARACTERS MOTIVATIONS ARENT EVEN REMOTELY SIMILAR?
lelouch is a selfless character and Eren isnt lol
he literally hid his selfish desire of seeing the outside world as a plain sight BEHIND a noble cause of saving paradise/friends
saving paradise/friends IS AN EXCUSE to achieve his own personal desire.........
EXACTLY LIKE REINER
who also hid his selfish desire of gaining respect BEHIND a noble cause of saving the world
and this is the whole reason why eren in s4 ep5 says to reiner
'I AM THE SAME AS YOU REINER'....................
@@AM17titan
You missed the point. It's not the character that is similar, it's their character arc. Eren's character development made too much sense for it to be an act, that's why the ending didn't work for a lot of people
@@lehothaiduong4363 what development are you even talking about
that is the point i am not understanding lol
you first said understanding the world , okay i agree with that BUT what does that have to do with the ending?
i am not understanding where did eren deviated from his goal?
did people like you seriously believed that he will finish off mikasa and armin even though kruger says to grisha 'to save mikasa and armin' ?
(you do know right that it is actually eren sending his memories to kruger FOR KRUGER TO SAY IT TO GRISHA?, eren sended memories to his past shifters after gaining the founder and thats the only reason why ONLY THE ATTACK TITAN WASNT CAUGHT BY MARLEY)
that is just not even paying attention to the story
Omg i stopped reading after the armin thing lmao you really think that eren did the rumbling because of some book when he was 6 😂😂😂
@@AM17titanwhy did eren say multiple time that he didnt know if his friend would survive the rumbling lmao was he playing ?
@ where he said ?
He only said he tried different routes but failed (which is him lying)
He didn’t said anything of sorts other than this in the anime
and what character development you mean? when eren literally says 'I AM THE SAME AS I ALWAYS HAVE BEEN' to zeke in s4 ep20 LOL
there is no character development regarding eren
ONLY HIS PERSPECTIVE CHANGED
@@AM17titan
Reiner: You said you would make it your mission to us die the most excruciating death possible. That's why you're here isn't it?
Eren: Oh... Did I say that? Well... Let's forget about that
Is it too much to say that this is character development?
@@lehothaiduong4363 didnt he transformed in that episode itself possibly killing reiner? AND LIKE I SAID HIS PERSPECTIVE CHANGED....he now knew the truth but even after that he still was about to kill reiner and falco
@@lehothaiduong4363 BEAR WITH ME PRETTY PLEASE
this can be long but it explains everything
whole s4 ep5 episode was like this.....
Eren was basically taunting reiner like
'you were forced to attack paradise to save the world, you were just kids....that would have been too much on you , YOU DIDNT HAD ANY CHOICE , right reiner?'
BUT WHAT HAPPENED AFTER ?
Reiner went down on his knees, cried and said 'NO EREN YOU ARE WRONG, I DID HAD A CHOICE , but i still did it because i wanted to gain everyone's respect for me'
WAHT IS ERENS REPLY TO THIS?
'Like i thought , I AM THE SAME AS YOU'
in the same way
when eren beats up those men to save ramzi
HE SAYS 'I AM THE SAME AS YOU REINER, a half assed piece of shit'
and then admitted that
'saving the island, paradise BUT THERE IS MORE TO THIS, when i realised that the outside world wasnt the same as armins book , i was disappointed, i wanted to wipe everything away, I WANTED THIS'
AND then what we see? KID EREN ENJOYING FREEDOM ( THIS IS THE EXACT SAME FORM OF EREN WHO WAS FIRST SHOWN BOOK TO ARMIN)
btw eren is closing his eyes as he cant see the horror of it , he is a hypocrite because at least villains enjoy killing to achieve their goals BUT he is crying as well as enjoying it
just like reiner says to himself in s2 ep6
'I AM A HALF ASSED PIECE OF SHIT'
he says this because he is crying even thought he wants to kill everyone in paradise to achieve his own selfish desire'
@@AM17titan
A character changing their perspective, which indicates growth, learning, and a deeper understanding of the world, themselves, or others, is the definition of character development, no?
@@lehothaiduong4363 yea i guess you are right on that BUT again that didnt amounted nothing to eren because
just like titans , he hates the outside world
yes his understanding of the world became bigger BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY IT DIDNT AMOUNTED TO ANYTHING
as for armin and others because of their understanding of the world better, they didnt wanted to kill them all
BUT FOR EREN ITS THE SAME RESULT
before and after which is to
KILL to see the world as plain sight
yes he hates the titans because they are a threat to humanity BUT HE MAINLY (primary reason) HATES THE TITANS BECAUSE THEY BLOCK HIS VIEW
Eren never went against his ultimate goal. He still wanted to wipe out humanity but he had more than 1 goal. He was conflicted due to his nature to want to destroy humanity & fight for "freedom", he wanted to find a solution that would keep his friends & ppl safe for he rest of their current lives, & he had a part of himself that realized he felt bad bout wantin to kill the rest of humanity. His plan was to fulfill all his conflictin goals to the best of his ability even if that meant he had to die for it(tho he also didn't want to die). This doesn't contradict but rather adds extra layers of conflictin ideals on him on top of the ones he alr had
Hey, can I get your opinion? Do you think the majority of AOT viewers struggle to comprehend basic writing skills? Most of the people I've seen think the ending was good or at worst, fine.
how ironical because i dont understand your type of people....how did you guys even missed the point of the ramzi conversation in chapter 131 and also the most important line regarding erens character which is 'REINER, I AM THE SAME AS YOU' ?? ITS JUST STUPID LOL
@AM17titan What does that Reiner line and Ramzi conversation mean to you?
I interpreted it as Eren, despite knowing that the people outside the walls are no different from him, still choosing to kill them when they declare war. He's the same as Reiner because he keeps moving forward until his enemies are crushed, even though he knows his enemies are not all evil.
The conversation with Ramzi isn't that interesting. Eren is disappointed that the outside world is hostile and disgusted with himself for killing so many innocent people.
@@lehothaiduong4363 bear with me pretty please because this can be a bit long
whole s4 ep5 episode was like this.....
Eren was basically saying to reiner like
'you were forced to attack paradise to save the world, you were just kids....that would have been too much on you , YOU DIDNT HAD ANY CHOICE , right reiner?'
BUT WHAT HAPPENED AFTER ?
Reiner went down on his knees, cried and said 'NO EREN YOU ARE WRONG, I DID HAD A CHOICE , but i still did it because i wanted to gain everyone's respect for me'
WAHT IS ERENS REPLY TO THIS?
'Like i thought , I AM THE SAME AS YOU'
in the same way
when eren saves ramzi
HE SAYS 'I AM THE SAME AS YOU REINER, a half assed piece of sh*t'
and then admitted that
'saving the island, paradise BUT THERE IS MORE TO THIS, when i realised that the outside world wasnt the same as armins book , i was disappointed, i wanted to wipe everything away, I WANTED THIS'
AND then what we see? KID EREN ENJOYING FREEDOM ( THIS IS THE EXACT SAME FORM OF EREN WHO WAS FIRST SHOWN BOOK FROM ARMIN)
btw eren is closing his eyes as he cant see the horror of it , he is a hypocrite because at least villains enjoy killing to achieve their goals BUT he is crying as well as enjoying it
just like reiner says to himself in s2 ep6
'I AM A HALF ASSED PIECE OF SH*T'
he says this because he is crying even thought he wants to kill everyone in paradise to achieve his own selfish desire'
@@AM17titan
What choice did Eren have in that scene? Kill everyone or let them freely declare war on the island. The latter doesn't seem advantageous at all.
Yes, Eren wanted to destroy his enemies and secure a future for his island. This is his motivation. The Ramzi scene has been confirmed by the author that Eren is disappointed that humanity outside the wall is hostile and cruel towards paradis and each other. You can't argue about anything in this scene.
Also does Eren even have a selfish desire? He wants his friends to live long lives, and wants to protect the island. The rumbling isn't what he wants, it's the means to achieve what he wants. The world forced him to go this path, if the world accepted peace, the rumbling wouldn't happen.
@@lehothaiduong4363 where did isayama confirmed that?
eren literally has a selfish desire lmao thats the only reason he says 'I AM THE SAME AS YOU REINER' AFTER reiner admits that he destroyed the wall not to save the world but for to gain respect
idk how you are putting eren on a pedestal of this good being when he is LITERALLY ENJOYING THE FREEDOM SCENE LOL and always MENTIONS THE 'SIGHT'
he mentions this back in s4 ep21 to zeke 'WHAT A SIGHT IT WAS'.....
and also after the freedom scene he is literally looking at armin and says 'right armin?' and after what did armin says ? 'the outside world wasnt a plain sight like we imagined' to annie
i am not bringing these quotes on interpretation
ITS LITERALLY SHOWN IN THE EPIOSDE/MANGA
yes eren had many choices HE COULD HAVE COOPERATED WITH ARMIN who is btw much smarter than him but didnt and as a result SASHA dies lol
this is where your contradictory lines arises.....he wants to save his friends but in the process KILLS SASHA,HANGE,FLOCH lol
I don’t think Eren’s actions at the end are inconsistent with his goal. From the beginning his main goal was eliminate the titans, both as revenge for them killing his mother and as revenge for them keeping him confined to the walls. When he finds out about the outside world and that the outside world was 100% onboard with keeping him confined he transferred his desire for revenge to the outside world. But more than that he had access to the Attack Titan’s future memories and knew that taking these actions would eliminate titans from the world, thus fulfilling his primary motivation. I also think the downside of the attack Titan is that its users essentially become slaves to their own fate, unable to make decisions that would change the ultimate course of events that leads to Ymir’s moving on. We see this with Grisha begging Zeke to stop Eren, while that seems odd because that Grisha had the ability to stop Eren by simply not giving him the Attack Titan I think that he was essentially forced by the Attack Titan to pass it to Eren.
For him revealing he had feelings for Mikasa that does come out of left field considering Eren hadn’t particularly shown any romantic interest in anyone.
i think you didnt got erens motivations to even join the survey corps in the first place....rewatch s1 ep11
i like that you arent wasting time and making a valid point in a short amount of time
in the final episode he literally says that he didn't do it to save his friends, and that was a front for his real selfish goal. Line by line says that
Bro you can't criticize AOT, AoT is a perfect anime/manga, its the best out there. Nothing is better than AoT despite the inconsistency and plot holes we're gonna ignore those because AoT is peak fiction.
Such as?
Rarely have I seen so much bullshit in a video and someone who understands a character so poorly.
Since season 1, it's been clear that Eren is extremely frustrated by the fact that he's constantly being saved by Mikasa. This frustration wouldn't make sense if he wasn't in love with her, because he'd have no reason to be frustrated about being saved by the one he'd see as a sister. Only if he's in love with her does it make sense, because he thinks he's not worthy of her until he can save her in turn. That's why he refused her kiss at the end of season 2, because it would be an admission of defeat. And in season 4, he literally said word for word that his friends are his most precious possession, and he wishes them a long and happy life. This makes perfect sense with Eren's need for freedom, present from the start, as he has always seen being enclosed within walls as an obstacle to his and humanity's happiness. So him being ready to do anything to protect his friends and the island makes perfect sense, which is therefore linked to his need to protect his friends, which is also linked to his need to protect Mikasa, whom he loves.
From a thematic perspective, Eren and Mikasa is worst couple in AOT ngl
@@lehothaiduong4363 you don’t need characters saying ‘I love you’ every episode to say they are a couple
Every time when eren says ‘home’ mikasa is in it as well
Same goes for mikasa as well
Eren being in love with historia felt more right 2 me
yea with the girl who he had zero romantic interactions with ...okay! and with a girl who he literally put her in guilt in chapter 130 i believe when historia was willing to sacrifice herself because genocide is bad BUT eren reminded that she is the worst girl in humanity and she should put herself over humanity and basically become selfish
@AM17titan eren having a breakdown over a girl doesn't work 4 me
@@kennyulysse2163 so what are you saying? eren shouldnt show emotions?
he is btw on his deathbed about to be killed by his own best friend and cant live with his girl forever lol
if he is stoic in that situation you cant even call him human at that point lol...he will be just a robot
He is doing all that while killing billions of people thats retarded 😂😂@@AM17titan
Yeah forsaking the girl who was always there for him and going after a girl who gives him thrill and has greater social standing than him. Yeah right seems like typical low life male behaviour..
was that never see me again?
yup
It’s funny, because the majority of ppl understand erens character makes sense. Some people just refuse.
I could write a book about your ignorance to fill the library of Alexandria 7 times and 14 more times to analyze the complexity of AoTs story and Erens character. AoT should be taught in schools and the fact that you don't get it shows the story's high complexity and that it's not for everyone. Better keep watching Code Geass it's more for you man (probably the worst written anime of all time tied with SAO)
This reeks of illiteracy so bad, anyone with a basic understanding of subtext would realise that eren was lying about his reasoning for the rumbling to his friends so they could see him in a sympathetic light. His actions were incongruent with his words and armin literally calls him out on it. Eren admits he did it for himself more than anything else
Eren never wanted to make his buddies heroes or any of that nonsense, from a selfless stsndpoint he wanted to save his island and eliminate the titan curse, which is why he had Mikasa and gang kill him.
Light and eren are fundamentally different characters, comparing them is illiteracy if anything. Boxing eren into a trope like lelouch means disregarding his complexity.... But that's to be expected from somebody who exclusively analyses manga/anime, most of you clowns have zero reading comprehension skills whatsoever
Yeah this guy is either a psudeo intellectual weeb or a rage baiter. Just cause you see code geass two or three times doesn’t mean you become as smart as Lelouch