Shane Dawson's Fiancé SILENCES Him, EXPOSES Manipulations Behind The Scene
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- Опубликовано: 15 сен 2024
- Tati Westbrook finally breaks her silence on last year’s drama, Jeffree Star goes missing, and Shane Dawson's fiancé, Ryland Adams, goes off on Twitter.
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Who would have thought that a group of people putting on makeup could be so problematic
right!
I swear.
There are problematic people everywhere, these are just a group of people who are used to monetizing everything to the point they've forgotten where to draw the line
Hahahaa ikr
🤣🤣🤣now that was funny🤣🤣🤣
Remember when he tried to Ruin James's carreer and made a tweet saying that if you're silent, you're guilty? Well... look who's silent now.
Jeffree put a gag order against James so that way James cant legally speak. The proof is out there.
oof I remember this tweet
I'm Bored arc
And Tati put out the bye video to destroy a 19 year old whiles she is 40
@@richardflorida9610 I think they are talking about the fact that Jeffree hasn't spoken
But seriously... does anyone actually believe anything these people say anymore? They are so untrustworthy. All of them.
Tomi Was Taken ikr
Word. I don't trust any of them.
its all for entertainment, theyre acting
I don’t trust them either.
Yea. Like this just sounds so unbeliable. And like nothing is truly proven anyway.
Why does it sound like she's not apologizing for her own actions but rather she's sorry that she is "victim"....?
Yes. Her apology is layered in excuses about how she got manipulated and victimized. But to be honest, all of that was probably proofread by her lawyers so she can't say she was at fault.
💯💯💯💯
Lol Tati is so lame.
That's exactly what it is
"I'm sorry I let them manipulate me" girl that is not an apology
Lord I'm sick of this, I can't trust any of these childish adults.
While not childish, you can trust Wayne Goss, John MacLean and Robert Welsh. True makeup artists that have been in the game for years (or centuries with John)! 😊
They seriously need to grow up already
Fr.
Can somebody give me a full detailed paragraph of the situation? I’m still very confused
Right I’m just over it
Shane: **freaking out**
Jeffree: **probably planning something**
Tati: **emotionally unstable**
James: **sips his pinkity drinkity**
Lol yess
I am so happy James is now fine!
I never like any of them, not even James. But when I saw his content, I realized he is not as bad as I thought, because I though he was irritating.
But Shane and Jeffree Starship always gave off bad *BAD* vibes for me.
Like I liked Jeremiah Patricstar's hair and that he has tattoos, but I didn't like his personality, and Shane... Oh god, I have always been suspicios about him and I did not even want to look at any of his content.
For Tati... I only saw her "Bye sister" video, and, let me tell you I was shooketh.
Emily Cheshire “jerimiah patrickstar” omfg hahahaha
As he pops his gummy bear vitamin lol
James is just as bad
This whole thing feels like watching some strange social experiment.
Agreed!
Yeah
Omg yes I couldn’t put the feeling into words but this is exactly how it feels
honestly
i wish it was
Tati: I don’t want him ruining his career
Also Tati: *proceeds to publicly ruin his career instead of trying to sort it out behind the scenes*
💯
Because, honesty is important ;)
AGAIN
Exactly!!!!
Hun u clearly don't know manipulation. If u have experienced it ull probably agree with me. I'm not defending tati btw.
y’all remember when the beauty community was about beauty? i don’t
Pepperidge farms remembers
lol 2011
I miss watching makeup tutorials 🥺 I just go to tiktok for them
I did! Remember Bubz? I miss her
Bubz and Michelle Phan early days. Wholesome days.
Have we tried putting the beauty community in rice?
maybe we gotta turn it off and on again?
Whole grain rice to turn wholesome
Should we use ramen noodles ?
Can we fit 2020 in there too
aint no saving them 💔
Drinking game: take a shot everytime the blame is thrown onto someone else
Also: *dont trey me*
BAHAHA in dramageddon? you tryna get me alcohol poisoning 😭😭😭
Suddenly this got interesting... 🍻
This should be pinned lol
your edit couldn’t be any funnier 🤣
Haha, when she was reading off his 3 mistakes i died
I’m sorry - but Tati bullied James, and she’s just pointing the finger nowZ
I know right!?!? No one is "the good guy" in this situation!
Exactly. She didn’t just talk about things she heard. She talked about things she witnessed with James and now she’s blaming everyone
Yea
Gabrielle Hendy low-key James kinda is he didn’t do anything wrong except be friends with the wrong ppl
i feel the same... when i watch this i was like... tati is the problem here
What I don't understand is that why Tati never reached out to James and was like "hey, Shane and Jeffree said all of this stuff about you, is it true?" Or something like that. Since they were such good friends or whatever.
Exactly! If Tati said she was like a mentor to James, why would she believe Shane right off the bat instead of asking James to explain himself? Talking about this publicly was never a good idea
She thinks because she's a woman she gets away with it if she says two men manipulated her. Jeffree isn't always the nicest but at least we all know. Tati still pretending to be the innocent housewife.
@@Awkshii the thing is tati witnessed this behavior (her birthday party dinner in Seattle) first hand which is probably why she still went with it and kinda believed them
If i was in her situation, I would not.
She worked very hard writing this script for this and is legit needing to look at what she wrote the entire time pretty much, barely looking at the camera. Kinda seems like a bunch of bull she can't even remember herself without having it right there to read word for word. Smh
Ngl the only reason I’m following this story is to see what happens legally. This could be a HUGE civil suit
I'm hoping Shane goes to jail for everything else he has done.
Stacydsimz me too
Stacydsimz Woah calm down.😬 Wishing terrible things on someone doesn’t make you the better person.
Stacydsimz i don’t. what he said was disgusting but he doesn’t deserve jail. he needs HEAVY therapy
Ashiella it’s only right
I’m not trusting any of them 💀
Same bc they are all trash 🗑
Imma just get my dream body and listen to music and watch non problematic people 😂😂
Mau 606 Same, better that way lol
The only person I’m trusting here is James because James is the only one I’ve seen actually accept their actions
They are too dramatic my head hurts
Tati literally acts like jefree and Shane held her hostage to make that bye sister video. Hun your a grown woman. You messed up on your own no one was in that bye sister video but you
but Shane is known to be a master manipulator so it has nothing to do with age.
Nobody made her edit this video and press send . She did all that herself.
some of y’all have never been in toxic/abuse relationship and it shows
Sarah Schelling i haven’t and even i know the power of manipulation
Sarah Schelling I agree that this rhetoric is often used by victim blamers so I don’t think it’s a good argument but I also think Tati is embellishing the amount of manipulation that was done to get her to make the vid
Something I learnt from the Tati and James situation last year, is to not believe anything if there isn’t evidence. Let’s wait until evidence comes out and then make our decision, because last year, before James gave receipts, everyone was on Tati’s side.
BIG FACTS!
That's probably the most mature response to the situation. I wish people would learn to wait before taking sides.
There are always three sides of the story: the two sides, and the truth.
No one is going to show proof because if they share it in a video, it cannot be used legally in court.
I'm so glad somebody else sees it this way. People were so quick to bash JC without evidence. Now they're doing the same thing again. I need proof before I believe anything
I feel like Jeffery is so silent because he’s putting all of the blackmail together. He’s gonna do a mass exposure.
Jeffree*^
Kevin_ _gosnell girl- it don’t matter he doesn’t deserve the proper spelling of his name
Oh just u wait 😂😂
MJ - 05GE - Ray Lawson PS (1535) 💀😂
Jeffreeeeeeeeeee
Hearing Ryland in the background saying get off live, get off live just shows even Ryland knew shane throwing a tantrum wasn’t a good move
Way better, she was talking about the text message that Shane had send her about not to worry about James taking his own life. Probably a text message she has on that hard drive she has given her lawyers.
Or Ryland knew that Shane was already in a bad emotional state, and that him watching a video where he's dragged to filth was not a good idea.
@@jennifersaar1611 Or both
I thought he was telling the dogs to get off the couch
He was talking to the dog to get off the couch 🙄🙄🙄
Am I the only one who remembers her specifically saying that James was a danger to society.
Or the fact that many of the things in the video she said about him were things she saw in person.
THIS! OMG you guys, I do not get how more people aren't seeing this!
Yup! And funny how people can't see the vid in question anymore
That was jeffree actually. He made a tweet with that exact statement.
Jeffree tweeted that not Tati
bruh why can’t they just do make up and stop talking like ...
Cause it makes them multi millionaires
Because they are flawed people not just makeup canvases
Because that means they get less views and less money
Right? This whole thing is ridiculous and these people need to grow tf up.
That's what really sells, and they know it.
I can’t believe jeffree is being being silent and throwing Shane under the bus.
He did that in order to save himself...But, it clearly didn't work.
I can
SimplyLizzie Logical yeah
Liv Girassol hahah Yupp
SimplyLizzie Logical he has years of history doing this. Check out video by Jools Rosa. All the way back to MySpace days.
James: Eating his pinkity popcorn.
Shane : Losing his mind and career in days.
Jeffree : Haha,new car goes vroom vroom.
Vroom vroom hehehehe
Pinkty popcorn 🤣
Pffft-
as sick as this sounds, i really feel like jeffree is using shane and that sucks. shane has, and always will be, my favorite. shane is jefree's scape goat and he doesn't deserve that.
I lost it at new car goes vroom vroom
Really wish they'd stop calling it a "community." That's not a community.
El Bruce PERIODT
Yeah. It is clearly a competition. lol
The only person I'll ever trust is Garrett Watts, he is an honest king
Foreeal though his videos show it all he's like hey I'm a mess I'm trying but I keep collecting cute things and watching anime I love him 😍
Drew monson?
He’s so precious,everything he does is endearing if only he posted more 😭
Wait is that the right spelling
Frrrr
So... she trusted Shane and JS over James... wasnt James like a “son” to her..🤦🏼♀️
She said herself that she had felt like he had changed and Shane and Jeffree fed into that idea. That’s how manipulation works: you find a weakness (in this case Tati’s doubts regarding James’ character development) and feed into it
Exactly for me it just weird that she started to exposing and ruin her "son" career because he was sponsored by some gummy bear sleeping vitamins🙄
Samira Miller then she never considered him close then if she’s that quick to flip on kin
@@OfficialJuarez exactly
Aye J true.. if she actually cared about him she wouldn’t allow anyone to talk about him behind his back, and she should’ve privately warned him..
who ever thought filming yourself applying makeup was such a dangerous game
Yeah lol
right!? ...jesus christ
@@ThenaBoBena i feel like I’m drowning in all this tea going on
Bc the beauty community’s pocket runs deep
It’s all Jeffree. Have you seen him 💀💀💀
*When you remember this all started over hair vitamins*
But isn't Tati like 40
PUNny guy yup. They started beef with a 19 yo when they’re all over 30. It’s both hilarious and cringey
Ya I remember
and she denying it´s so pathetic and laughable...
she was so immature. she could've easily sorted it out with James in private.
Shane: 😡🤬😤
Jeffree: ✈️🤭🙄
Tati: 😫😩😢😰😔
James: ✨😌☕️💅🏽🦋
That's so accurate...
Trisha: 🤡🤡
He’s literally thriving with the hype house kids
Itzelina•_• 91 ew you tried it
Galy Guerrero 🤨
why cant they just shut up and teach me how to put on my eyeshadow
ino😪
I SCREAMED
😂😂 facts how y’all problematic it’s basically doing art on your face😂
LITERALLY!!
Mau 606 Same question I have with the art community 😂😭😭
Shane: gets thrown under the bus
Jeffree: I’m in my new car broom broom
Shane thrown under one of those transformers Jeffree owns*
shane is an adult and if he chose to act like a clown he deseves the heat
@Calm Aura Don't feel bad for him, he's not innocent.
@Ferisha K THIS IS SENDING MEEEE 💀💀😭
HAHAHA
I used to like hearing Tati’s voice ‘cause like she’s so soft spoken but knowing and hearing these issues she’s bringing up is making me sick. Girl, you’re old enough to own up your mistakes too. Stop blaming and pointing fingers at other people. I watched her Bye Sisters video and it was clear to me that it was all her thoughts because she said SHE WITNESSED EVERYTHING! If you asked your lawyers on what to say then you should’ve consulted them too with your prev. video because dear, they don’t match. Ghad. Stop. You’re 40. Not 12. Jeez.
Her voice in this video is so annoying
Even people who are 12 don't act that way maybe 5 would be a better reference
Also in the bye sisters video, she said every negative thing she could think of about James. That's not the actions of a best friend. Own up to your part in what you did , it's on you.
I'm actually twelve but I'm more mature than she is. It makes no sense
Yep.
I understand what Tati’s trying to say, but she needs to take some responsibility too. Smh
Yamato...hey
i mean she technically did by apologising to James publicly and privately, but i agree she can't just blame Shane and Jeffree
This was approved by her lawyer. If she is looking to sue or take further steps everything she says will be used aginst her. This is the only way she could have done this.
..she apologized to James multiple times
Shee doess
Jeffree's always had that "I can ruin your life vibe"
he legit says that all the time 💀
_and nobody seems to care._
@@accidentalalien4112 there's no need to say that
He is a Scorpio and so am I I’m ashamed that he is the same sign as me 🤦🏽♀️
Right his fans are scary too but it's like.... good people don't need to keep saying they are good people he has always given me a weird vibe.
Jeffree has lawyers involved so he isnt going to say anything. The fact that he ismt popping off on twitter or insta is exactly why I think he has the lawyers handling things behind the scenes.
He's going to give receipts as James did a year ago.
yup.agree
Thats what i think too. Clearly, Shane doesn't have that same support network or else he wouldn't have done that live Instagram
Jeffree is being smart. I don't think he's thrown Shane under the bus either. They're clearly business partners and he probably hurried up and contacted Shane after Shane went live to speak with their lawyers and that's why both of them are being quiet now. It's being very very very smart.
I agree, the proof is with Tati and Shane. At this point, everything they've said is being twisted into something negative for them or the opposite party. Least if all is that neithier has shown any proof. Jeffree could just be waiting for the right moment when he has all the receipts he needs to back himself up.
She is a grown woman and acts like a middle school girl...she is trying to manipulating everyone in believing she didn't make the bye sisters video and push the blame on others! Rather disgusting actions...She is showing her true colors in these videos.
she's annoying
I agree with you wholeheartedly. What she doesn't realize is that this is detrimental to both of Shane's and Jeffree's career.
@@charlottemann2497 jeffree and Shane are not trusted either so maybe she tells the truth. dp you realize that
@@-_YouMayFind_- I do realise that, all I'm saying is that if she is proven to be wrong, she could have a very bad case of deformation of character on her hands. And one she would bound to loose. Because regardless of what you think of Jeffree as a person, or a business man, he is very intelligent
And they are all grown men with racist past. We could all go around pointing out flaws at the end of the day, Tati and Charles made up months ago and apologized to each other. She made a huge mistake that hurt James, but she nowhere near had done something that is so unforgivable. Unlike all the disgusting things SD & JS said and done in the past in relation to black people, children and animals. Those who think Shane and Jeff are innocent should check themselves. Tati has nowhere near done anything that vile. She hurt James in a major way and failed him. She knows that. She does not need anyone’s forgiveness but his.
Every single year people talk about canceling jeffre star...... yet he’s still around??
I think he has something on everyone
Your favs brought him back
It’s because his fan base is literally all insane and wannabees 🤭
Because cancelling people doesn’t work
Shooq Janahi the world is full of injustice
I'm so proud of James not talking about this and he's happy now
Yes he does not need anymore bs in his life cause these ‘friendships’ are more alliances than anything
Right! he’s probably enjoying the peace he has now and tbh he doesn’t need to speak on it everything’s coming out on it’s own! Karma prevails 😁
Same, good for him 🥰
I just hope the leverage jeffree has over him isn't true, because that would be terrible
I wouldn't be so quick to defend James Charles, you might be defending a possible abuser in the case the voice memo is real.
"everyone wants to know why Jeffree's hiding"
he ain't hiding, he's planning. This is the calm before the storm, and it's gonna be the storm of the century.
I love when Tati says we all need to forgive the people Jeffree has dirt on. Coincidence? Hmmm 🤔
I think not
@@AlexMart9 clearly
Omg Jeffree is literally a sewer rat, he is the worst of them all! Go watch deangelo Wallace’s video on Jeffrey before you jump to the defense of that withered silicone sack slender man cosplayer.
@@josephp.1919 I didn't come to his defense, I just said he's not hiding
Can we just ignore them and stop investing to their pockets... cause I don't think they will stop acting like dramatic teens.
Let me summarize her video:
"Im sorry that shane and jeffree -made- me do this" 😒
Okay so;
* They all need help.
* James Charles is thriving!
* Where is Jeffree Star?
* What do y'all want from MacDonalds?
can i get a big mac meal 👉👈
mc nugget meal
2 Double cheeseburger meals, a chocolate milkshake and a chicken nugget meal with a mocha frappe. I haven’t had a McDonalds in over 5 months😭
Can I get the two cheeseburger meal with a Rootbeer and sweet and sour.
I need a mcflury with caramel and m&ms thanks.
Tati sounds like she’s blaming everything on anyone else and she most definitely did say James was a monster when she told those stories about him manipulating straight guys. We didn’t forget, hun.
Yep. She’s acting like she didn’t tell her own stories about James claiming they were true. She didn’t get manipulated to tell things she claimed she saw. We absolutely did not forget about it.
I feel like she did blame herself on some of the matter which is why she apologized to us and james multiple times. I think she just want to explain the entire situation
i think that she isn’t allowed to say things for legal matters rn, which isn’t allowing her to be honest about what specifically she said that she later learned was false.
Are you forgetting that she can't say anything due to legal reasons?
Egg she’s saying heaps about others though lol
Everybody remember that Jackie Aina called out Jeffery as the terrible person he is... she needs a while lotta apologies right now....
YES! I'm glad Tati apologized publicly and privately, but there are a lot more beauty influencers who owe her an apology. Jackie wasn't scared to talk against Jeffree, and he was threatened by that.
What did Jackie say, like what exactky happened?
Fatima Farooqui she really does.. but what exactly all happened?
Fatima Farooqui she talked about this a while ago. She spoke about the way he has talked to and about black women. He called her a gorilla, rat and talked about how bad her credit is which is all code words for he’s talking about her being black.
I agree 100000% a lot more people owe Jackie some apologies
Tati is the one who’s a manipulator. She disgust me. She is always right in the middle of everything! I literally do not believe anything she says.
It looks as if she's reading something I'm not taking sides or anything but.. that seems shady🤔
Olivia P Near the beginning of this video, it says “she read from a prepared statement she wrote”
Olivia P It was 40 mins, she wanted to say everything, thus she needed to read it from a statement. What’s so hard to understand about that?
Everything she babbled in that video could have been condensed into an unscripted speech, well under 10 minutes. Just saying.
"She is always right in the middle of everything!" wait I thought that was her only controversy; she did something before the Bye Sister?? I need this tea girl.
Jeffree: Shane is like family
Also Jeffree: who’s Shane?...
What I’m so lost. When did he abandon Shane? I’m not a jeffree supporter btw
Amelie Angelique well he’s being quiet and letting shane take everything i dont like them either but jeffree had so much to say about james last year but is really quiet when it’s about him and shane
@@DiamondDazzleSparkle lawyers are probably involved, hence the silence.
Olivia J that hasn’t seemed to bother him before.
Ikr i don't like either of them but jeffree just left shane to deal with all this mess meanwhile shane is always there for jeffree.
When she said jefferee went missing i thought he was actually missing 😅
same 😭 i was like : 😃😃
ikr😅
Same😂😂😂😂😂😂
Heh 😏 ok 😆
SAME OMG
I think that J* is listening to his legal team and is remaining silent. We’re gonna see a lovely cease and desist or a lawsuit for defamation
I'm sorry I am not very knowledgeable about these kind of stuff but doesn't there need to be proof for him to do that.
@@missgalaxie7779 a lot of things are probably going on behind the scenes and knowing JStar, hes most likely collecting "receipts".
Why do people turn Jeffree's names into an asterisk?
Aküma cause the asterisk has also been called a star
I gotta say just jeffree is smart. You’re probably right. His lawyers wouldn’t want him talking.
Yeah if Tati was so “nice” and “kind” as she constantly praises herself to be, she would t have ever made that “bye sister” video. Even if JS or Shane told her to, if she was a NICE PERSON she never would’ve made the video PERIOD.
Imagine if she didn’t make that video, if she stood up for her “friend”. What would Jeffrey and Shane have done to ruin Jame’s career?
@@Bebec1t4 she did it expecting them to do just that, didnt you hear when she said she's confused nothing happened after the video, more like waiting for it to happen
I feel like Jeffree's going to say something that will make the whole community forget about the situation all over again
I was in a dark place
@@hyunjinchuu3715 stop 😭💀
I wonder what makes Tati so scared tho, and makes Nate had enough, so fed up, and choose to leave
Aubrey Song honestly i would love to hear nate speak on this cause i feel like he would know so much
That's called manipulation
Jeffree being silent just proves his loyalty to his “friends”.....
Has he ever had a friend?
Victims*
It's likely because lawyers have to be involved at this point, no way Jeffree isn't drafting things up with his lawyer
Jeffree doesn’t have friends. He has real life pawns in his game of chess...
You mean his “family”
I honestly hope James doesn't get involved in this. He's said his piece, he experienced his piece. Don't want to see him dragged back into something that's been dead for a long time.
I think Jeffree is just jealous tbh
Honestly James should get involved legally. If most or all of what Tati mentioned is true then he could take legal action against both Shane and Jeffree and should
That’s how I feel for everyone . It’s so annoying hearing the same stories come back and get 10x more heat because people FINALLY decided to pay attention to everyone’s bs .
@@callieestra1095 if he does I hope he does it privately for his sake. its to much honestly for him mentally to try and keep up with everything when he's still young and needs to work on life
Jeffree has an order against games where he can’t speak about this topic
Ok but like.....if Tati did “bye sister” because she “cared” about James and was worried that he was gonna ruin his image......why did she single handedly ruin his image...and not call him out privately or do a private intervention... so. many. plot. holes.
Jeffree Star is pulling a john cena since he's nowhere to be seen or heard.
Are you sure about that?
"YOU CANT SEE ME"
I'm gonna start referring Jeffre as John Cena now, thanks
He’s pulling the “I need to buy milk from the grocery brb" card
Don’t wanna ruin the 777 likes
I'm sorry but hearing her read the mistakes in tweets is SENDING me 💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀😭
“DO NOT TREY ME RIGHT NOW” SHDJDHSJD
😭😭😭😭💀💀💀
I love it. It gives me life
Remember when the beauty community did makeup? Me neither
😭
😂😂😂😂😂😂
THIS
BRO..💀💀💀
No I never involved myself in beauty community in any way
Make-up is my phobia lol
Well I have a small phobia of make-up lol
everyone’s surprised shane would do that but he literally goes off of anything Jeffree says. he’s following in Jeffrey’s footsteps because Jeffrey helped him realize that he was being cheated moneywise in his career
Her ENTIRE Bye Sister video was her own thoughts and own witnessed account of James. How could they have provided her the information for that video, if she gave her own accounts that she witnessed herself
whit i feel she witnessed what she did and jeffree made out what she saw to be what it really wasn’t and encouraged her to make the video. I’m not placing all the blame on jeffree because she is guilty too for sure, but manipulation is more powerful than people think
whit she literally said she was hella gaslighted. Not defending James nor am I on Tatis’ side cause we only know what they want us to see.
Hannah Arisu i didn’t say anything abt james. none of these ppl are to be trusted bc they just want money and i believe james is just a teenager wanting to have fun sooo i’d completely takes him out of this equation as a bad guy
I'm not surprised. His ex girlfriend told recently the same story about how manipulative Shane is, how he destroys other people's relationships. He likes to describe himself as "an empath" but to be fair all of the dead bodies he left behind, all of the ex friends who don't want to have anything in common with him, and all of disturbing films he made for "fun", kind of point out that he's a narcissistic as**ole.
can they like calm down for a year or 2 there’s way too much going on 😭
Exactly
No kidding man
I mean you aren't wrong
they shouldn’t, I’m sick of their behaviours its time for them to learn their lessons
Yes please
But she should have asked James first if the allegations were true or not , I mean come on she is not 6 yeras old .
she acts like she is
she’s literally twisting it and it’s making me angry
She’s twisting it and making Shane look like. A horrible person which he isn’t
Brooke Salvatore Shane Dawson is a horrible person
see that's how it works @Shamim Ara if she would've confronted him he would have realised that she has been backstabbing him or smth like that then I guess maybe she was afraid to do so and anyways no one in this community is a saint lol
Im getting bored of this issue. this beauty “community” is so old. Time to stan non-toxic people.
EDIT: time to veer away from toxic “influencers” and support unproblematic ones. 😉
How about not stanning people at all? You can support people that have the same morals as you but yall need to stop holding people to this high moral regard and idolizing them to the point where you dehumanize them
@@ぢぢ-l1i finally someone said it
かあん beautifully said. Agree. They’re just humans, after all
stan jung hoseok but you’re a j-hope Stan though opp
Bretman is the only one who's not toxic in beauty community
To be honest at this point I really don’t trust anything that Tati says. She could’ve spoken to James about things before just making a video about him. You can’t be weaponized against anyone unless you allow it
True
True
Which is what she said...."allowing myself to be weaponized..."
Its DISGUSTING that Jeffree is just hiding when SHANE is taking all the heat for him.
a or maybe they are handling it all in private?? You all are always assuming things.
AGG handling in private? all their problems have been brought to the public, handling things in private may be mature but people will just assume things.
And the timing with this coming out right after Shane caught some heat really just adds fuel to the fire.
@@kissurhearts It could be because Jeffree has lawyers at this point.
carrie harlow true, i mean if his lawyers are involved it’s best for him to stay quiet .
I don't care for James Charles as creator, he's talented, but just annoys me, that being said, this poor kid got railroaded by people he trusted. This was so unfair to him.
He’s talented at copying smaller creators. He was so annoying and attacked everyone. But yes, false accusation is not ok.
@@jelly4074 he wasn't copying anyone,.....
@@jelly4074 what copying?
Raven YouDontNeedToKnowMyLastName no i think it’s because sometimes he would steal smaller creators makeup ideas and then wouldn’t give them any credit
i don't even watch those people, i know them by their names but it's really not my type of videos, but people like this always exists, they think they are better than anyone and their head is like a blob of arrogance
oof, 2020 is not anyone's year.
Its james charles year LOL
2020 is zooms year lol
Ikr
I’m Probably Eating 2020 is coronavirus year
and i oop- ok PERIOD
“He will destroy the whole community”
Jeffree Starr doesn’t need to because the whole beauty community is imploding on itself. The beauty community has MASSIVE issues before, after and during dramageddon. From hairy makeup, to racism allegations to the endless apology videos.
They don’t need Jeffree Starr to destroy the community, they’ll all do it to themselves. Tati seems hella manipulative about this, her video, her cryptic tweets prior to the video, the lack of proof.
i thought u meant jeffree LITERALLY went missing for a second and i went 👁👄👁
SAME DJSJDJSJ
If only
Omgggg sameeee
Yeah he was tookith by the truth.
Lowkey tho, it would be for the best if he just... disappeared. Forever.
Jeffree has big dirt on Tati. something fishy about the way she was like “we need to be prepared to forgive the people he’s holding hostage” she’s trying to put herself in the victim roll before whatever comes out.
Omg I’ve been thinking this too!!!! I feel like no one else has brought that up lol
Big dirt probably includes how Bye Sister was nothing but Tati 🙃
OMG STOP, its not her fault she's really sweet, and she was very genuine in her video. This is all shane and jeffrees fault.
If that’s true though why make this video? If that were true I’d come out with my own dirt and show how jeffree was blackmailing me personally instead of just cry and insinuate it
👌🏻👌🏻
I think all the dirt Jeffree has on the beauty community needs to come out so we can get it over with and move on.
So "we" can get it over with? Easy to say when you're actually not one of the possible victims
Astrid Mora well blackmail is usually something bad the person did themself, ao the best would be to come out on your own terms now since it will likely come out anyway
Samira Miller well not really, Nikki was blackmailed too but does it mean being trans is bad? I don’t think so
I want all that dirt to come out and then nobody ends up caring- Jeffree deserves to look like a clown😂
How do you know that any of the “dirt” is actually true, or if it’s about things that are personal and aren’t specifically bad. If its things like him outing people, I don’t wanna hear it. example: gender/identity like how Nikkie tutorials was blackmailed bc she was trans .
I’m canceling my dreams of being a beauty guru now.
just be one & rock it sis / be the better person
DUDE NO
@@honk6748 what Sofia valbuena said!!!
The way she talks about forgiving people that jeffery has dirt on makes me think hes got some dirt on her and shes worried.
EXACTLY.
Right? Also, not everyone deserves forgiveness... Depends on what they did!
Exactly my thoughts as well!
I thought it's more about someone she cares about, like James.
@@pinkflamingodizzle Personally I think we should only forgive if said people have changed and grown from their mistakes. Of course still taking into account what they did.
Has anyone questioned themselves where is Jeffree’s ex and what he knows about all this and why he left before all this unfolded??? 😳
I'm wondering the same thing
Yesss Nate finally saw Jeffery for who he was and dipped
I was wondering that as well!!
Jeffree probably made nate sign an NDA before letting him leave so that he wouldnt be able to air any of Jeffrees secrets. Just a thoeory but sounds like something he would do.
I assume Nate got ownership of the Michigan house, some money, and a buyout in exchange for signing an NDA. He’s got his bag, a new GF, and privacy, he isn’t gonna touch this one.
I do not like nor support either Jeffree Star or Shane Dawson; However, most of what Tati stated about James Charles in her "Bye Sister" video was all based off of her own accounts, meaning she had said that she either witnessed the predatory behavior or heard about it from James himself. So how could have Jefree and Shane orchestrated this entire mess, if she herself said that she had witnessed those actions of James?
Exactly!
Was thinking the same 😅😅
Yesssss thank you!!!!!! Tbh the makeup community should stfup and make beautiful art on their face.
IKR
I really don’t remember her bye sister video but if someone is good enough at manipulating- they can twist something YOU saw. they can change the meaning of it in your own mind. not saying i agree with anyone in the situation but that’s just a kind of generalized thought about manipulators.
Tati trying to gaslight us by claiming she was being gaslighted. She's not a good person. Also, I wish she would stop using her faith as way to make her look like a good person. Super cringe.
those poor lawyers kids having to explain everything to their parents
💀😂💀
Hehe
😂😂😂
Tbh i dont trust anyone. If all of this was an act would we be surprised?..
the only person i trust is garret watts teehee
Same. And it bores me to even care about their dramas
i think all of them need therapy xD lol
Same, idk who to watch/support anymore cuz they be amazing at first then problematic in a snap -.-
Ya same smh
ok but shane when he was reacting to tatis video LITERALLY SOUNDS like he’s rumpelstiltskin from shrek i’m sorry
hahahaha
We needed this
Ik this is supposed to be a joke, but like what counterclaim does anyone have to disprove it???
He looks like it too
Emma Hancock you’re not... wrong
I personally don’t think that Jeffree is “hiding”. I know he has something planned to end Tati’s attempt at blaming other people for her actions.
Omg Felipe
Am now
What irritates me is when Tati says she’s a victim he calls her manipulative, but then he turns around and says he’s a victim as well? Can someone explain that to me..?
They’re both manipulative
Julianne Colosi I think Tati was just confused but I think that video left her with a lot of trauma and so this video was good for her to let everything out
Or when he uses his mental health issues as excuses all the time , mental health is a very important and regular issue but is just taking advantage of it
@@katerinatheofanopoulou6434 thats very true
whats even worse for me is in his book he legit says he was NEVER molested but he is shocked he wasnt cause he was a feminine looking kid i guess. so it sounds like hes trying to make people sympathize with him. EDIT: the quote from the book says "i'm still shocked and slightly offended i was never molested."
“Safe to do so” why do these people think they are part of mafia or something 😂😂😂
overinflated self importance :')
Several others have said that they fear for their lives when speaking out against Jafar Syphilis. That can't just be summed up as a coincidence.
People are a lot more powerful than you think
We don’t know what Jeffree is withholding or planning. We don’t know who he’s going to come out about either. Jeffree has millions and people with that money can do anything. Doesn’t matter how you got the money, long as you got it you can do anything. Some of the screenshots and receipts that will come out sometime could land some of these people in jail or could put their lives in enough danger to not go outside. It’s a big world
Cause the mob funds them it’s very lucrative. + that’s how thay push it! 🤔
Tati literally had no dramas at all ever until Jeffree entered her life. Coincidence? Not when the same thing has happened to other BeautyTubers.
Shane too.
When I saw Shane the first time with Jeffree I literally thought "oh no, this is gonna end bad".
But let's face it, Tati is manipulative too.
At least one person was smart enough to leave
@@noneofyourbusiness273 Shane has been facing backlash for over 10 years. He used to be extremely controversial and was known for being offensive and ~edgy~.
@@noneofyourbusiness273 pretty sure Shane had his own skeletons way before Jeffree came into the picture,but ok.
So she did that “playing with makeup” with Shane in the hopes of being his next biggest docu series 😭
Jeffree acting so proud that he’s got all this “dirt” on other ppl, not realizing that clinging to dirt just makes HIM dirty af... what a sketchball 🤦🏻♀️
Edit: IT ACTUALLY MAKES HIM A DIRTBAG HOLY COW I AM A FOOL FOR NOT SEEING THIS SOONER 😨 oh yeah, it’s all coming together 😏
Sketchball 😂😂
Dirtbag*
I love the wording of this. It’s just *chef’s kiss*
Ally_D1
But a dirtbag is a useful part of a vacuum. I don't see how it's an insult.
Not to mention he always wants people te forget his past but has old dirt on other smh
Tati needs to take some kind of responsibility tho like she's blaming everyone else but herself
Laura Wiscombe yeah she is just as responsible for all this and I really don't hear any accountability in her apology. She's doing whatever she can to come out of this. It's all "trust me. I was manipulated." It's just another 'bye sister' video. How are we supposed to trust her word again?
And if she really cared about James she would've thought about the consequences of her Bye Sister video which almost led James to being suicidal. She opened the door for these people to ruin James and now she thinks being manipulated makes her innocent. If they talked dirt on James with her she should have talked about it with James and asked if it was truth, but she decided to believe it because at the time it was the most beneficial thing for her to do.
She's playing the victim card
00:48
Yeah and she’s obviously reading off something, nothing she is saying is from her heart or mind, it’s all scripted.
remember that time Felix said that it's so weird for people to attack james when there was no proof? yea, pewds predicted dramageddon
5,ooo LightYears Away you like a racist antisemite? 🤢
@@SummerSummerL aawe you believe everything the media says. PewDiePie has donated to the BLM and now he's donating to Yemen, I don't see how only one word makes him racist. He acknowledged his mistakes, move on.
@@SummerSummerL wut how is pewds a racist antisemit?
And they collabed after that, which was wholesome.
I love Pewds
“I never said James Charles was a predator or a danger to society”
I hope I don’t have a memory problem because she took more than like 5 minutes describing how embarrassed she was from James and that he was so gross
James Charles is now chillin, drinking his pinkity drinkity
Honestly he deserves it after what he went through last year☺️✌🏽✨
James being unbothered and a Queen💅🏼✨
have you people forgotten that there’s a voicemail allegedly out here from a victim of James Charles. I wouldn’t be praising him to the heavens yet
as he should
As James should
Jeffree must have a burn book or something, cause y’all are scared.....
Omg lol 🤣
Thank you the original Regina George
the fact i wouldn’t be surprised
Haha MEAN GIRL S
FACTS
I miss when Shane was just blending a bunch of food together.
The Drew and Garret scary vids
or cutting up barbie dolls
• a n g x l • I miss those so much man, I basically only watched those videos for Garret and Drew(I’ve never liked Shane’s content, he gives me a gross vibe,,) and the dynamic they had, it made me laugh a lot
yes I loved shane but rn he deserves to be canceled
Shane was one of my inspiration but after this, this is so hard for alot of fans of Shane,Tati,Jeffre, and James
Cause we miss alot of before.
She’s too old to be making this kind of content. Are her “tears” are also in the script,?
She's reading something instead of talking from the heart
❊Wheels❊ she was reading a script that was approved by her lawyers. It’s for legal reasons.
I believe so
Age has nothing to do with it
Her entire video is obviously scripted, why else would she not be looking directly at the cam talking directly to her audience. She’s a complete joke/degenerate.
Tati ain’t innocent like she acts. She is the one who uploaded it and she can’t blame it on Shane and Jeffree because it backfired
True that, she's salty she betted on the wrong horse and lost.
FINALLY someone who sees it too!! She isn’t innocent smh
I couldn’t agree more
I totally agree! She’s a grown woman and is trying to blame others for her actions. She is too wishy washy and I’m not buying into her BS.
You know that grown adults can be manipulated and used, right?
So why didn’t Tati “educate” herself on Jeffrey Starr, he wasn’t innocent either.... 😭😭😭
$$$$$$$
I think a lot of people were un aware of J* past. I hadn’t heard about it until last year when it started. And I really found out when all this came out again
How are people unaware of js past? We all knew and know how he is . How wasnt a 40 year old woman aware ?
She's also in for the money she just able to manipulate us especially with her "sweet" voice
She did, but she wanted to help him be a better person
Jeffree Star hasn’t gone missing in shame. He has gone quiet to draw more attention to himself so when he uploads his response video it will get more views. This isn’t the first time he’s gone quiet.
Yep. Manipulative much, Jeffree?
I’m excited to see what he says
When’s the last time he was silent
You guys aren't happy that he's quiet and you wouldn't be happy if he said something.Mic drop
PERIODDDT
Why is she reading her "story?" It's like it's scripted
I thought it was me like is she reading this??
Too tired to figure this out, imma just distrust all of these crazy people
Best thing you can do
I'm doing the same thing.
Bingo!
At this point... best decision 🙆🏽♀️
yep
I just don’t understand how Shane isn’t officially a part of the beauty community and has the biggest scandal going on.
Because his entrance into the community was with the most problematic beauty youtuber in the whole community
its cause hes a horrible person ❤️
because he got into business with Jeffree, and nothing good has ever happened to the people that become entangled with him. Manny, Laura, Nikita, and others all came out worse while he's still sitting pretty at the top.
No publicity is bad publicity.
Because anybody can have a scandal?
I feel like whenever jeffree becomes 'friends' with someone he immediately goes to dig up dirt just incase.
I agree! He wasn’t kidding when he said “I have dirt on everyone”
he's sorta like a friend you can't trust, and definitely secretly judges and keeps a side eye on you, a sly snake.
I don’t think it’s just in case, I think it’s so he can manipulate people into song whatever he wants them to do
Secret Mons i have a friend just like that.
Kind of like what Jeffrey Epstein did. Set people up in questionable situations and film the dirt to manipulate people.
I honesty can't take this seriously.. She's reading off her a script that she probably got the help of her lawyer's to write. Her tone of voice when she takes about something sad or important changes for like 3 seconds then " OH back to normal now ". Like " im about to cry but not really ". Then not really addressing anything with hard proof but keeps saying that they showed her messages and things. And why wait this long to come out about it. She 40+ something, she a grown woman who seems to be blaming other people for her mistakes. like come on girl...
Just imagine these people’s lawyers like “I went to law school to defend a bEaUtY gUrU” I’m-
At least, they can charge big for this, but I agree, it's so imature...
PLEASE they’re rich 😂
For real. I was curious about what all this was about because I saw people mentioning it online, but this is just a bunch of grown adults gossiping. Like, there’s a pandemic and racial tensions, and people losing their jobs. These are just rich people that don’t have the problems most normal people do so they spend their free time backstabbing each other.
That's the point of being a lawyer, whatever good or bad or ridiculous your client is.
I imagine the lawyers and the judge in court talking during the case with their juristic lingo but also having to throw in words like „bye sister“ and „sugar bear hair“. 😂 I would not be able to keep a straight face when defending these middle aged people behaving like they are still in Highschool. Good thing I‘m not a lawyer.
All i wanted to know was how to put on eyeliner correctly.
Exactly.
🤣
These instructions are too hard to follow 😂
My wings are wack 😭
John Mclean will help you, he's both beautiful on the inside and outside. With thousands of years worth of wisdom.
Last time I was this early, beauty gurus actually talked about beauty.
I don’t know why Smokey eye tutorials are so controversial
o o f
Remeber when beauty tubers reviewed make up and created looks? Me neither
Michelle Phan memories 😭
Tati is such a little actress i dont believe anything out of her mouth any more she needs to stick to make up