More like the army was too small.... just like the modern MLRS, this was area-targetting weapon and was rarely used to actually kill off soldiers. Their primary target was enemy command center, supply depots etc.. stationary strategic targets and they could hit from a long range.
Grant Imahara, one of the Build Team members on The Mythbusters for most of the series, from 2005 to 2014. Grant, Kari and Tory left after the 2014 season. The show only lasted two more years/seasons after that, through 2016. (Discovery/Science channel brought in two new hosts and filmed one more season, spread over 2017-2018.) Grant passed away on July 13, 2020, from a ruptured aneurysm. He was only 49 years old. Although his death was not Covid-related, I have to wonder if that didn't play a role. It's well-known that the coronavirus causes numerous blood clots throughout the body, and causes damage to the lungs, heart, lungs, brain and extremities. In any case, he died far too early.
Yeah. The whole myth was to test 3 aspects of the Hwacha one at a time: 1) could an arrow be launched and travel 500 yards: this was tested and found to be confirmed. 2) Could such an arrow explode with lethal results? This too was tested and confirmed. 3) (this vid) could 200 arrows be fired at once reliably. Well... 199 of 200 isn't bad. It's most certainly a passing grade in my book. If this were an actual Hwacha, we'd see explosions in the distance as the arrows made impact. Scary.
Not even. The arrows are being launched by Powder or Some fuel. I doubt that Anyone during the 15th century had the ability to hit and explode 100 or more arrows on impact when the first Matchlock was invented only 100 years before the Hwacha. Meaning, gunpowder is still VERY new. I 100% promise that either the reconstructions are INACCURATE. Or You Mis-read that explosive arrows are capable with A Hwacha using 14-15th century metals and shit
And today the tech has improved, but the basics remain the same and live on in the MLRS, the grad, HIMAARS, etc. A good idea is a good idea regardless of age
@@alexanderhay-whitton4993 The Mythbusters were testing to see if the Hwacha lived up to the stories told about it. After all, History is filled with stories that were exaggerated to make them larger than life. The Hwacha is clearly not one of those, but that wasn't quite well known two decades ago.
Imagine a castle wall just, LINED with these, like ten of these aimed in the right direction, right at the besieging army. That'd have been amazing to see. From the actual castle at least.
+Lopiny Hwachas were rather used in mountains, moving fast. That is the reason why Hwacha has only two wheels. Also, they were frequently used in naval battles along with 대장군전, an early form of anti-ship missile launched from standard cannons.
While that would be cool, medieval Europe wouldn’t have been a good place for these since their armor was most likely able to withstand those kind of arrows, since these were used by the Koreans in the 15th century to help stop the invading Japanese samurai. Edit: the only real good things about this would be just disorienting and knocking down soldiers to make way for actual killing blows, or a weapon to terrify the enemies
@@originalhumor3797 to terrify the enemies is understandable, though a knight in full plate armor for example wouldnt be too worried id assume just charging on his horse and taking down the people who load these hwachas Its a neat idea and definitely worked our since it was made and used in the past just having to reload it would be a disaster id the enemy has cavalry still up and ready to fuck some dude up with their lances No disrespect just the way i see things could play off
@@originalhumor3797 armor of the knights, or Samurai, maybe. A thick shield will stop one of these, or the wooden palisades used by the Ashigaru and Samurai of Japan though. That's why the Koreans didn't really stop the Japanese, the Chinese did.
Normally I don't participate in "... sent me here"-comments.... but Totally Accurate Battlesimulator did really sent me here! :D These things are awesome (if you don't concider the fact that it kills and would produce a massacre).
Hwacha has been used for centuries, but only as sidekick. Main artilley was just cannon(총통, many of them were 65mm). Hwacha consumed too much gunpowder and Joseon dynasty could not afford the cost.
Korea loved stronger long range fire power(artillery, archers). It has been dominant military doctrine for centuries. Since Korea usually faced enemies with superior number or cavalry(China, Japan, Manchuria). Defensive battle was usually made at mountain fortress.
Also like imagine being a footsoldier in the 1500s who's never seen anything like this in their life ever? Like sure they've been trained to use cannons, but then seeing this relatively tiny thing shoot hundreds of fiery missiles that explode on contact (Obviously the ones here didn't explode but explosive arrows existed especially in the size used here), most soldiers would have pissed themselves right then and there and the officers would have an impossible time maintaining discipline
To ALL the comments .. positive and negative :) I'm Chinese, my wife is Korean ... we agree that history is often muddled and things get confused when passed down verbally and in written form; so let's just watch this AWESOME video :D *peace*
To be fair, the ancient Korean/Chinese people who made the Hwachas would have been well practiced in using it, and therefore a better aim Also, the troops were too close, Samurai ranks were very closely packed and therefore a better target and the defending people would have used more than one Hwacha to defend, i would think.
+General Boomer Few points to mention.####1.Korean/Chinese didn't build Hwacha. Korean did(The name itself is in Korean). Chinese developed world's first rockets. They had various ways to launch them, but not like this.Hwacha is important in terms of multiple launching of rockets & modulization of weapon & aiming system of the cart. It could reload by changing the plate like a magazine. Also, a multiple barrel kit could be mounted instead to convert Hwacha into an early machine gun. Armor modules that could be mounted and removed existed. Lastly, firing angles are measured and recorded on aiming device of the cart. ####2.Rocket Hwachas were not used in close distance. Its strength was to launch strong fire power to superior range. Instead, those machine gun kits I mentioned above were used in close distance combat. You can find records about 행주대첩, Battle of 행주or Great victory of 행주(Haeng Ju) where Korean army achived a definite victory against Japanese troops which overwhelmed Koreans in number by more than 10 times.The name of the machine gun version is 총통기 화차(ChongTongGiHwaCha), meaning Gun type Hwacha. Simply imagine Leonardo De Vinch's multiple barreled machine gun. 총통기 화차 was a Hwacha converted using a machine gun converting kit. ####3.Hwachas were cross-fired to create dense kill zone just like Maxim machine guns in WWI did so. Single Hwacha was barely used but multiple of them were at the same time. Each Hwacha was run by multiple groups of soldiers. One group fire Hwacha and the others change magazine and bring empty ones behind to reload.
+General Boomer Plus, I don't think 15th century is called ancient. We Koreans define 14th~ as modern. 10th~14 is Medival, bc2nd~10th is classical, ~bc2nd is ancient.
The old Korean kingdoms and empires were like Switzerland of East Asia. They were located in the middle of Eastern world, sorrounded by invading strong enemies(Every single Chinese empires, mongolian empire, northern barbarians and Japan), but never lost. Reason why? Creative weapons. We had sniping carbine bows, armored horses, hand grenades, exploding cannon balls, timed fuze, armored battleships, rocket pods, gun launched missiles, automatic cross bows, and machine guns.
*****머신건 있어요. 화차는 모듈식 무기였습니다. 신기전을 발사하는 화차의 신기전 모듈을 드러내고 총통기 유닛을 장착하면 그대로 수래위의 다연장 화승총이되죠. 백발이상의 산탄을 발사해서 탄막을 형성하는걸로 행주산성에서 수십배의 왜군을 상대로 대승을 거두었습니다. 단순히 화승총을 다연장으로 연결한 수래가 어떻게 머신건이냐고 묻겠지만 서양의 더 단순한 형태의 다빈치 오르간건도 머신건의 시초라고 불립니다. 이쪽은 조준장비와 탄창식 재장전 방식, 그리고 산탄발사까지 오르간건보다 훨씬 우수한 면모가 많습니다. 충분히 머신건이라 할 수 있어요.
@@originalhumor3797The Mogols and the Koreans (Goryeo) signed a peace treaty which favored the Mogols, but the Koreans never surrendered. The only time that the Korean king surrendered was to the Manchu (Jurchens) who went on to conquer China and became the ruler of China. They wanted to make sure that the Ming China would not be assisted by Joseon ( Korea).
The thing behind the arrow tip is supposed to explode and have metal pieces flying all around. They did not test this. That can seriously injure the soldier, can blind those around. It was not only psychological but also actually very effective as Japanese and Chinese armies weren't well equipped overall. The armies just had to be damaged enough to be unable to constantly climb over the mountain ranges AND hundreds of castles Korea had.
How? Explain how a Rocket propelled Arrow with enough fuel to Propel it a long distance is then gonna have Stored and Compressed/ Pressure in a tube that is firing a fuel. Will explode? THEIRS NOTHING compressing it, pressuring it. Bombs only work when UNDER PRESSURE/ in closed space like a hand grenade. (Even then, a hand grenade would work better if it Under Pressure). Which then expends pressure. I’m no bomb expert. But neither are you judging by how a thin, Not-so well balanced arrow is going to explode on impact
I can only assume they would adjust the wagon's angle during the launch to allow for higher accuracy if the troops were running away from the arrows. Arrows are expensive to fire so shooting from a static angle isn't the best thing to do.
This would definitely be effective for moving targets. At the very least it would terrify and confuse oncoming armies. You'd obviously want multiple of them at various locations.
우리나라 고대무기가 Mythbusters에서 나왔었구나.. 영상의 화차는 1400년대 초에 만들어진 한국의 '화차'라는 장치입니다. 발사되는 추진체가 달린 화살은 '신기전'이라고 하고, 소신기전, 중신기전, 대신기전으로 나뉩니다. 중신기전은 유탄이 달려있어 목표에 맞은뒤 터지며, 대신기전은 수kg에 달하는 폭약을 발사시키는 지대지로켓입니다. 특히 산화신기전은 2단로켓이 사용되었습니다. 위 실험에선 소규모 인원에게 발사되지만, 대규모 전투에서 양쪽에서 쏜다면 큰 피해를 입힐 수 있습니다.
I think this weapon best used in a fortified defensive positions like a castle where you know ranges and the enemy is coming into your engagement area. Like if you are on the ground in an unfortified position your army misses or shoots over you will get routed especially if they have a commander that understands how the weapon works.
It's funny to see Grant Imahara, a Japanese American, be the one to ecstatically light the fuse to the weapon that was probably responsible for the deaths of many of his countrymen centuries ago X-D.
There were arrow heads designed to punch through plate armour. The problem was, they had larger heads that wouldn't punch through the chain mail underneath. This wouldn't do much against good armour and shields, true, but it would take out a number of lesser equipped soldiers which would make up the bulk of certain armies, like rebels. it would also be a very effective disruption or intimidation tool. The Koreans were known to make use of psychological warfare through intimidation.
Full plate armor is pretty much immune to arrows. Only projectiles from war machines like catapults are able to damage a man in full armor. That's why it was worth the massive cost.
@marinus18 I'm not sure that's entirely true. Muskets, crossbows, and longbows were all capable of punching through plate armour at close range. I wouldn't describe any of those as 'war machines'.
The Chinese made a portable version, but I like the Korean original the best. Took until the Nebelwefer, Mattress, and Katyusha in World War 2 to surpass this
@VNPrince yes i know that. but this is perfectly made by koreans. only gunpowder is from china. this is korean version of multi arrow firing system. it's totally different from chinese one.
@drakken717 to be honest, this was used extensively to repel invasions of enemy forces. If this didn't work, then Korea would mostly likely be a part of Japan or china in modern times
@woo1693 Well, think about it. The Hwacha is basically a 15th century multi-rocket launcher. Does that sound too awesome to be true? It does to me, and many other people. And yet, it does in fact work!
@KoriSenbay I dont understand your logic, your saying Qing and Yuan dynasty are not Chinese history because the rulers were not ethnic han Chinese?. So, is Japanese occupation of Korea "Korean" history?. Or when Korean were vassal states "Korean history"?. The last time I checked, the Manchu abandoned their culture and language to join the han chinese. Its always nice to see Koreans taking stabs at China under the banner of "Sinocentrism".
King Moonjong made this and also ShinGi-Jeon which is almost like a rocket so far I heard. Only wish King Moonjong didn't die that early... He was the son of Sejong the great who made Hangeul, the genius father and son.
Recheck your history, that weapon saw a lot of action and most Southeast Asian historians believe that weapon played key roles in defending Korea from China and Japan.
@woo1693 my mistake, but never the less not everyone has seen those reenactments like you. so most people would not know. and just becasue its in a reenactment doesn't mean it actually works it's probably just a prop. so there is reason for mythbusters to look into the hwatcha.
@KoriSenbay Sorry to spoil it but Sui and Tang dynasty are han chinese history. The emperor of Tang had small percentages of xiabei (because Xiabei was sinicized). but otherwise a han chinese Even the emperor himself said that his family traces back to the han dynasty. How about Korea?, were you not tributary/vassal state to foreign power for most your history?. Did your rulers not used Chinese until the mid 1400s?.
i think when soldiers see a hwacha firing they will most like disperse and spread out...but they don't know that hwacha's fire is spread out and some shoot farther range which make it likely to hit the enemy more.
I feel like this is one time where they were limited by their budget and time. If they'd hand more money and more time, they could have built 10 more of these things a much larger enemy army, and then we could have really seen what it looked like.
@HyunClown - I get what you're saying, but as you said, they (the Japanese people) changed the name from C->Korea, and Tiger->Rabbit as well. But that was back then - if the ROK wanted to change their name to 'ROC' today, I'm sure Japan wouldn't object.. As for the Tiger/Rabbit issue, it was obviously propaganda in order to persuade the Japanese that Korea could be invaded - I doubt the majority of the Japanese don't even know about it, because it's not something they consistently argue about.
@drakken717 do you understand how complex it would be for an arrow head to shoot something? It's rediculous. Second, depending what armor soldiers wear, results differ. Chain mail won't do much against this.
@KoriSenbay "I think that you're confused a little. Nobody says that Manchus were Korean". Countless posts were made trying to link Koreans with Manchu. You Koreans are trying to assoicate yourselves with the Manchus so you could bask in Manchu acheivements.
The only reason it missed was they UNDERESTIMATED its firepower. The army was too close and this is a long-range weapon.
they landed beside the "army". it was just wind.
+Marbles McGee they overshot
Bk Jeong wind can blow the arrows in any direction, even over the target.
More like the army was too small.... just like the modern MLRS, this was area-targetting weapon and was rarely used to actually kill off soldiers. Their primary target was enemy command center, supply depots etc.. stationary strategic targets and they could hit from a long range.
would you stand among those soldiers on the field and feel safe thinking the wind would deflect it? lol doubt it.
RIP Grant. You will be missed.
I can’t believe it happened he was so young. RIP Grant, thank you for an awesome childhood.
Wow, I didn't know he passed until I read this. Now I am sad 😥
HokiePitcher22 who is grant?
Grant Imahara, one of the Build Team members on The Mythbusters for most of the series, from 2005 to 2014. Grant, Kari and Tory left after the 2014 season. The show only lasted two more years/seasons after that, through 2016. (Discovery/Science channel brought in two new hosts and filmed one more season, spread over 2017-2018.)
Grant passed away on July 13, 2020, from a ruptured aneurysm. He was only 49 years old. Although his death was not Covid-related, I have to wonder if that didn't play a role. It's well-known that the coronavirus causes numerous blood clots throughout the body, and causes damage to the lungs, heart, lungs, brain and extremities. In any case, he died far too early.
Michael Hong - DMV Music ohh sad. I really liked him. He was one of my favorite people there
Yeah. The whole myth was to test 3 aspects of the Hwacha one at a time:
1) could an arrow be launched and travel 500 yards: this was tested and found to be confirmed.
2) Could such an arrow explode with lethal results? This too was tested and confirmed.
3) (this vid) could 200 arrows be fired at once reliably. Well... 199 of 200 isn't bad. It's most certainly a passing grade in my book.
If this were an actual Hwacha, we'd see explosions in the distance as the arrows made impact. Scary.
It WAS tested - they broke and routed a numerically superior Japanese force (and that ain't easy, take it from a wargamer).
Not even. The arrows are being launched by Powder or Some fuel. I doubt that Anyone during the 15th century had the ability to hit and explode 100 or more arrows on impact when the first Matchlock was invented only 100 years before the Hwacha.
Meaning, gunpowder is still VERY new. I 100% promise that either the reconstructions are INACCURATE. Or You Mis-read that explosive arrows are capable with A Hwacha using 14-15th century metals and shit
And today the tech has improved, but the basics remain the same and live on in the MLRS, the grad, HIMAARS, etc.
A good idea is a good idea regardless of age
@@alexanderhay-whitton4993 The Mythbusters were testing to see if the Hwacha lived up to the stories told about it. After all, History is filled with stories that were exaggerated to make them larger than life.
The Hwacha is clearly not one of those, but that wasn't quite well known two decades ago.
@@alexanderhay-whitton4993 As reported by Korean sources XD
Imagine a castle wall just, LINED with these, like ten of these aimed in the right direction, right at the besieging army.
That'd have been amazing to see. From the actual castle at least.
+Lopiny Hwachas were rather used in mountains, moving fast. That is the reason why Hwacha has only two wheels. Also, they were frequently used in naval battles along with 대장군전, an early form of anti-ship missile launched from standard cannons.
While that would be cool, medieval Europe wouldn’t have been a good place for these since their armor was most likely able to withstand those kind of arrows, since these were used by the Koreans in the 15th century to help stop the invading Japanese samurai.
Edit: the only real good things about this would be just disorienting and knocking down soldiers to make way for actual killing blows, or a weapon to terrify the enemies
@@originalhumor3797 Disorder the enemy, and be onto them at the charge right afterwards? Deadly!
@@originalhumor3797 to terrify the enemies is understandable, though a knight in full plate armor for example wouldnt be too worried id assume just charging on his horse and taking down the people who load these hwachas
Its a neat idea and definitely worked our since it was made and used in the past just having to reload it would be a disaster id the enemy has cavalry still up and ready to fuck some dude up with their lances
No disrespect just the way i see things could play off
@@originalhumor3797 armor of the knights, or Samurai, maybe. A thick shield will stop one of these, or the wooden palisades used by the Ashigaru and Samurai of Japan though. That's why the Koreans didn't really stop the Japanese, the Chinese did.
Totally Accurate Battle Simulator sent me here.
Normally I don't participate in "... sent me here"-comments.... but Totally Accurate Battlesimulator did really sent me here! :D These things are awesome (if you don't concider the fact that it kills and would produce a massacre).
Yeah I hate sent me here but I thought no one else would relate to this.
Well you found at least one... more to follow :D
same
Me too
After using this weapon in Ghost of Tsushima, going back and seeing this happen IRL is fucking awesome :D
If only they were used properlyn
Just came here from Ghost of Tsushima lol
The Koreans definably knew how to achieve More Dakka..
Hats off to you guys, nice re-make.
hitting on 6+... xD
I thought Dakka was some kind of ancient Korean philosophy/policy like sadae
Hwacha has been used for centuries, but only as sidekick. Main artilley was just cannon(총통, many of them were 65mm).
Hwacha consumed too much gunpowder and Joseon dynasty could not afford the cost.
Korea loved stronger long range fire power(artillery, archers). It has been dominant military doctrine for centuries. Since Korea usually faced enemies with superior number or cavalry(China, Japan, Manchuria). Defensive battle was usually made at mountain fortress.
Just in case someone got curious:)
Thanks for the facts, lad.
Also like imagine being a footsoldier in the 1500s who's never seen anything like this in their life ever? Like sure they've been trained to use cannons, but then seeing this relatively tiny thing shoot hundreds of fiery missiles that explode on contact (Obviously the ones here didn't explode but explosive arrows existed especially in the size used here), most soldiers would have pissed themselves right then and there and the officers would have an impossible time maintaining discipline
To ALL the comments .. positive and negative :) I'm Chinese, my wife is Korean ... we agree that history is often muddled and things get confused when passed down verbally and in written form; so let's just watch this AWESOME video :D *peace*
First time in my life seeing a hwacha launch in video form and OMG it's so cool.
To be fair, the ancient Korean/Chinese people who made the Hwachas would have been well practiced in using it, and therefore a better aim
Also, the troops were too close, Samurai ranks were very closely packed and therefore a better target and the defending people would have used more than one Hwacha to defend, i would think.
+General Boomer Few points to mention.####1.Korean/Chinese didn't build Hwacha. Korean did(The name itself is in Korean). Chinese developed world's first rockets. They had various ways to launch them, but not like this.Hwacha is important in terms of multiple launching of rockets & modulization of weapon & aiming system of the cart. It could reload by changing the plate like a magazine. Also, a multiple barrel kit could be mounted instead to convert Hwacha into an early machine gun. Armor modules that could be mounted and removed existed. Lastly, firing angles are measured and recorded on aiming device of the cart.
####2.Rocket Hwachas were not used in close distance. Its strength was to launch strong fire power to superior range. Instead, those machine gun kits I mentioned above were used in close distance combat. You can find records about 행주대첩, Battle of 행주or Great victory of 행주(Haeng Ju) where Korean army achived a definite victory against Japanese troops which overwhelmed Koreans in number by more than 10 times.The name of the machine gun version is 총통기 화차(ChongTongGiHwaCha), meaning Gun type Hwacha. Simply imagine Leonardo De Vinch's multiple barreled machine gun. 총통기 화차 was a Hwacha converted using a machine gun converting kit.
####3.Hwachas were cross-fired to create dense kill zone just like Maxim machine guns in WWI did so. Single Hwacha was barely used but multiple of them were at the same time. Each Hwacha was run by multiple groups of soldiers. One group fire Hwacha and the others change magazine and bring empty ones behind to reload.
+General Boomer Plus, I don't think 15th century is called ancient. We Koreans define 14th~ as modern. 10th~14 is Medival, bc2nd~10th is classical, ~bc2nd is ancient.
+Yonguk Lee Tbh, this wasnt exactly the kind of reply I was expecting, but hey, learn things :P
+General Boomer Are you talking about the Hwacha issues or the historical eras?
CORRECTIONS:
Samurai is neither Korean nor Chinese, they're Japanese
1:06 glad the camera crew is safe lmao
The old Korean kingdoms and empires were like Switzerland of East Asia. They were located in the middle of Eastern world, sorrounded by invading strong enemies(Every single Chinese empires, mongolian empire, northern barbarians and Japan), but never lost. Reason why? Creative weapons. We had sniping carbine bows, armored horses, hand grenades, exploding cannon balls, timed fuze, armored battleships, rocket pods, gun launched missiles, automatic cross bows, and machine guns.
***** 당나라의 마지막 원정에 진것 이외에 진적 있습니까? 아시아 국가들을 다 정복한 몽골에게도 제후국으로 들어간걸로 그치고 당나라와 수나라의 백만단위의 원정도 모두 물리쳤습니다. 임진왜란도 결국에는 승리했죠.
*****머신건 있어요. 화차는 모듈식 무기였습니다. 신기전을 발사하는 화차의 신기전 모듈을 드러내고 총통기 유닛을 장착하면 그대로 수래위의 다연장 화승총이되죠. 백발이상의 산탄을 발사해서 탄막을 형성하는걸로 행주산성에서 수십배의 왜군을 상대로 대승을 거두었습니다. 단순히 화승총을 다연장으로 연결한 수래가 어떻게 머신건이냐고 묻겠지만 서양의 더 단순한 형태의 다빈치 오르간건도 머신건의 시초라고 불립니다. 이쪽은 조준장비와 탄창식 재장전 방식, 그리고 산탄발사까지 오르간건보다 훨씬 우수한 면모가 많습니다. 충분히 머신건이라 할 수 있어요.
YEEAAAAAAHHH Koreans are awesome :)
Well the mongols did take over Korea for a bit, but your point is still valid
@@originalhumor3797The Mogols and the Koreans (Goryeo) signed a peace treaty which favored the Mogols, but the Koreans never surrendered. The only time that the Korean king surrendered was to the Manchu (Jurchens) who went on to conquer China and became the ruler of China. They wanted to make sure that the Ming China would not be assisted by Joseon ( Korea).
Rip Grant.
The single coolest moment in MythBusters history.
The rocketsled is a solid contender
@@Daedalus33 "That didn't mess around!"
The thing behind the arrow tip is supposed to explode and have metal pieces flying all around. They did not test this.
That can seriously injure the soldier, can blind those around. It was not only psychological but also actually very effective as Japanese and Chinese armies weren't well equipped overall. The armies just had to be damaged enough to be unable to constantly climb over the mountain ranges AND hundreds of castles Korea had.
How? Explain how a Rocket propelled Arrow with enough fuel to Propel it a long distance is then gonna have Stored and Compressed/ Pressure in a tube that is firing a fuel. Will explode?
THEIRS NOTHING compressing it, pressuring it. Bombs only work when UNDER PRESSURE/ in closed space like a hand grenade. (Even then, a hand grenade would work better if it Under Pressure).
Which then expends pressure. I’m no bomb expert. But neither are you judging by how a thin, Not-so well balanced arrow is going to explode on impact
@@shadowdeslaarThe thing grapeace is talking about technically isn't an arrow. It's just rockets. Rockets that are shaped to be arrows.
I am korean and knew that there is those thing displayed in the Museum bu never seen them firing -- cool!!
I can only assume they would adjust the wagon's angle during the launch to allow for higher accuracy if the troops were running away from the arrows. Arrows are expensive to fire so shooting from a static angle isn't the best thing to do.
This would definitely be effective for moving targets. At the very least it would terrify and confuse oncoming armies. You'd obviously want multiple of them at various locations.
This was one of my favourites, seeing a weapon that hasn't been used in hundreds of years was pretty cool.
우리나라 고대무기가 Mythbusters에서 나왔었구나.. 영상의 화차는 1400년대 초에 만들어진 한국의 '화차'라는 장치입니다. 발사되는 추진체가 달린 화살은 '신기전'이라고 하고, 소신기전, 중신기전, 대신기전으로 나뉩니다. 중신기전은 유탄이 달려있어 목표에 맞은뒤 터지며, 대신기전은 수kg에 달하는 폭약을 발사시키는 지대지로켓입니다. 특히 산화신기전은 2단로켓이 사용되었습니다. 위 실험에선 소규모 인원에게 발사되지만, 대규모 전투에서 양쪽에서 쏜다면 큰 피해를 입힐 수 있습니다.
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I was looking up war wagons after the turtle ship and this was so fantastic to see.
They'd better Hwacha where they're pointing that thing.
Not to mention the shock value of such a weapon. It'd damn well scare me to see one of these firing!
Hank Hill walks up to them and asks "Hwacha doing there guys?"
Hwachu saaaaaay
Greatest job in the world, being a Mythbuster.
I think this weapon best used in a fortified defensive positions like a castle where you know ranges and the enemy is coming into your engagement area. Like if you are on the ground in an unfortified position your army misses or shoots over you will get routed especially if they have a commander that understands how the weapon works.
I am Korean, and I agree. There are much more important things to do out there.
It's funny to see Grant Imahara, a Japanese American, be the one to ecstatically light the fuse to the weapon that was probably responsible for the deaths of many of his countrymen centuries ago X-D.
How to beat every formation without shields in TABS
They didn't even mention the fear such a weapon would cause.
imagine if the koreans put bamboo whistles on the arrows. It would scare the F out of anyone.
awesome episode
How is a well recorded and understood piece of ancient technology a "myth" lol?
The myth was the extent of what the ancient technology could do. Sometimes history books like to embellished the capabilities of their weapons
There were arrow heads designed to punch through plate armour. The problem was, they had larger heads that wouldn't punch through the chain mail underneath.
This wouldn't do much against good armour and shields, true, but it would take out a number of lesser equipped soldiers which would make up the bulk of certain armies, like rebels. it would also be a very effective disruption or intimidation tool. The Koreans were known to make use of psychological warfare through intimidation.
Full plate armor is pretty much immune to arrows. Only projectiles from war machines like catapults are able to damage a man in full armor. That's why it was worth the massive cost.
@marinus18 I'm not sure that's entirely true. Muskets, crossbows, and longbows were all capable of punching through plate armour at close range. I wouldn't describe any of those as 'war machines'.
POV your here after watching season 11 TWD
It's a proud of korean weapon
it's korean ideal with chinese Gunpowder I think :)
Ngọc Minh Hoàng Phước The Chinese did invent gunpowder and rockets but we're the ones that figured out a way to launch hundreds at once.
@@bkjeong4302 China invented it way before Korea.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiple_rocket_launcher
@@Gongolongo they are both rocket launcher but mechanism is different
and the turtle ship.
too short the tubes, too much angle... but magnificent ****
i actually kinda thought that they would all blow up but they fired perfectly. it couldnt have gone any better.
Why couldn't you test the range with a couple of arrows before firing all 100 and realising the entire army was positioned too close 🤷🏻♂️
RIP Grant. Anyone here because of Ghost of Tsushima?
The Chinese made a portable version, but I like the Korean original the best. Took until the Nebelwefer, Mattress, and Katyusha in World War 2 to surpass this
Best hwacha❤❤🗿
Failed to calculate the projectile distance and missed the soldiers. But appreciated .
For real, for smart people they sure are dumb. They should have shot a few to get the distance and then fire all of them at once.
TVTropes sent me here. Definitely a Macross Missile Massacre!
RIP Grant
@VNPrince yes i know that. but this is perfectly made by koreans. only gunpowder is from china. this is korean version of multi arrow firing system. it's totally different from chinese one.
@drakken717 to be honest, this was used extensively to repel invasions of enemy forces. If this didn't work, then Korea would mostly likely be a part of Japan or china in modern times
@Hananim91
Jin dynasty? i'm not aware there was a Korean Jin dynasty.
Hwacha was invented by Korea in 1448.
Imagine a whole line of them with a crew who knows how to aim them.
Hwacha gonna do when the well runs dry?
The original MLRS
Can we see this on a movie?
I forgot the title..
@woo1693
Well, think about it. The Hwacha is basically a 15th century multi-rocket launcher. Does that sound too awesome to be true? It does to me, and many other people. And yet, it does in fact work!
@KoriSenbay
I dont understand your logic, your saying Qing and Yuan dynasty are not Chinese history because the rulers were not ethnic han Chinese?. So, is Japanese occupation of Korea "Korean" history?. Or when Korean were vassal states "Korean history"?. The last time I checked, the Manchu abandoned their culture and language to join the han chinese.
Its always nice to see Koreans taking stabs at China under the banner of "Sinocentrism".
@woo1693
like when? i've never seen a movie using this robot arrow thing before.
Gunny ran into the same problem on Lock N' Load but the Hwacha works like a charm
King Moonjong made this and also ShinGi-Jeon which is almost like a rocket so far I heard. Only wish King Moonjong didn't die that early... He was the son of Sejong the great who made Hangeul, the genius father and son.
@KoriSenbay isn't Korz the forefather of all asian civilizations? Didn't Kor invent the universe?
Basically this is medieval style of the first rocket launcher
Recheck your history, that weapon saw a lot of action and most Southeast Asian historians believe that weapon played key roles in defending Korea from China and Japan.
It’s not one, but hundreds of them, and they shoot in turn.
@AnticDispossession
especialy when you consider how the territories, and who controls them, in Asia have changed a lot over the centuries.
It annoys me that she says this is an ancient weapon at the start.
This is a medieval weapon.. made in the 1500s.
Ancient means roman times or before.
Love using these in Civ V.
and aoe2. They are named as war wagons.
@woo1693
my mistake, but never the less not everyone has seen those reenactments like you. so most people would not know. and just becasue its in a reenactment doesn't mean it actually works it's probably just a prop. so there is reason for mythbusters to look into the hwatcha.
I imagine theyd be pointed down directly at incoming bogies with ladders.
@KoriSenbay
Sorry to spoil it but Sui and Tang dynasty are han chinese history. The emperor of Tang had small percentages of xiabei (because Xiabei was sinicized). but otherwise a han chinese Even the emperor himself said that his family traces back to the han dynasty.
How about Korea?, were you not tributary/vassal state to foreign power for most your history?. Did your rulers not used Chinese until the mid 1400s?.
This was invented in China in the 11th century. Not Korea.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiple_rocket_launcher
ya. All things in the earth were invented by Chinese. you sure but nobody else.
@@jkluchiano4490 you forgot india son.
Why are they dubious whether it will work or not? Apparently it was a nightmare of its time.
In our country we had bamboo guns and cannons firing coconut
i think when soldiers see a hwacha firing they will most like disperse and spread out...but they don't know that hwacha's fire is spread out and some shoot farther range which make it likely to hit the enemy more.
wow... 500 arrows and not a single wounded styrofoam soldier...
I feel like this is one time where they were limited by their budget and time. If they'd hand more money and more time, they could have built 10 more of these things a much larger enemy army, and then we could have really seen what it looked like.
They actually didn't have a blue print. Tori built that just looking at photos of the thing.
@Hananim91
I thought Chinese invented woodblock printing? Korea had a bronze press but woodblock printing?.
@HyunClown - I get what you're saying, but as you said, they (the Japanese people) changed the name from C->Korea, and Tiger->Rabbit as well. But that was back then - if the ROK wanted to change their name to 'ROC' today, I'm sure Japan wouldn't object..
As for the Tiger/Rabbit issue, it was obviously propaganda in order to persuade the Japanese that Korea could be invaded - I doubt the majority of the Japanese don't even know about it, because it's not something they consistently argue about.
@uhihyigtuuoj okay great... so what great battle was this? name and date please? :)
"hwacha"out
really awesome!
Coming from ghost of tsushima after using this weapon on story mode
This is exactly what happens in minecraft with dispensers and a cake.
traditional MLRS
Reminds me of the HailFire Tanks on Star Wars Episode 2
They should have known where the wind was blowing and how strong the wind was so they could move their aims
Dosho!
most awsome thing ever.
that looks so badass
HWACHAAAAAAAAAA!
I made a hwacha in woodshop, thinking about launching tons of model rockets...........
what episode
Metal Storm of 15C. Simply awesome.
Chinese lost everything in Qing Dynasty.
Ironclad Multiple launch rocket system
The Koreans were ahead of their time
definietly THE COOLEST mythbusters moment when all the arrows went off! nothing beats this!
Why do they scream and jump so much?
@drakken717 do you understand how complex it would be for an arrow head to shoot something? It's rediculous. Second, depending what armor soldiers wear, results differ. Chain mail won't do much against this.
Chain mail wouldn't do much against anything. It never existed. MAIL, on the other hand....
Looks like an Ancient MLRS.
@KoriSenbay
"I think that you're confused a little. Nobody says that Manchus were Korean".
Countless posts were made trying to link Koreans with Manchu. You Koreans are trying to assoicate yourselves with the Manchus so you could bask in Manchu acheivements.