Classical Composer Reaction/Analysis: REN - The Tale of Jenny & Screech - The Daily Doug (Ep. 616)
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- Опубликовано: 2 окт 2024
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In this edition of #thedailydoug, I'm returning to the music of Ren as I listen to Thte Tale of Jenny and Screech. As in past listens, I was completely overwhelmed by Ren's art. These interwoven three short stories (of Jenny, Ren, & Violet) read like a Shakespearean tragedy...in a way that you can't click away from. Come along for the ride as I share my thoughts during this first time listen!
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Jenny and James are "standard" names for orphans, a bit like John/Jane Doe for unknown deceased persons.
I was wondering if it was something like this
Thank you for that information. This rabbit hole is also a teaching proces in english for me. Love from Denmark. Lene/🇩🇰
Why the fuck does everyone comment this.
1. No.
2. It doesn't make sense.
3. Where did you read this?
I haD no idea thank you for that info
If I had to pick one song I think you'd appreciate the most, it would have to be "Chalk Outlines Live w/ Chinchilla." No big producer, no A list music director, no big production and sound stage. Just 2 indie artists, a guitar, and a hallway with great reverb. That's it. It's a fucking crime this duet hasn't gotten multiple awards. It's one of the best duets I've ever heard. You will not be disappointed.
Chalk Outlines is great (and the one I'd listen to first), but I think How to be Me (live) is as good or better. Its truly haunting, and the end gets me more now I've heard Suicide.
@@markwilson7013 They're both excellent, and I feel Doug would really enjoy picking them apart.
Chalk outlines will blow you away. Agreed. ❤
Excellent review. Doug. Was an amazing twist at the end. Thanks.
I concur!
Ren calls this style of music Bardcore (like the bard Jaskier in The Witcher but in modern times) and here's the origin story of the trilogy 🤩😁🤯
This wasn't originally a trilogy story. Ren read a small article in the paper about a 14 yr old boy killing a young prostitute with a knife, in an attempted robbery. Knife crimes had been skyrocketing in London at that time. Later that same evening the boy had been shot and killed by the police . This disturbed him, so he set out to write a commentary, but not just on senseless violence, but also on how desensitized we've become to it. The words he ends both Jenny and Screech's Tales with speaks for itself. "It's such a Shame" we say these words all to often, and just move on without a second thought. The the lead inspector at the scene said " So Young, It's such a shame".
Violets Tale was written over 2 years later adding yet another layer of commentary by Ren. He wanted us to consider not only generational violence but to make us look at all angles of society that we turn a blind eye to Domestic violence/child abuse & homeless youths. Both characters are born out of violence on that cruel night and then both killed with brutal violence on the same evening 14 yrs later. Also, his lyrics have even more meaning when you read in between the lines. For example he doesn't say what Jenny was doing or why she wanted to escape from this place & life, or why Screech thought she was older then himself by saying at Patrick's door "I left this lady lying on the floor". Could it be the way she's dressed & her heavy makeup? Also why is a 14yr old girl out so late at night alone in a sketchy area wearing high heels & thats "she's walked it a thousand times before" everything points to Jenny being an underage prostitute, showing us what Ren writes has reason & makes us think. There's no fat on the bone, every word is weighed & has meaning.
Also, how can both these siblings be so cursed? Jenny has the same traits as her mother Violet, quiet, voiceless, and timid. Where as Screech mirrors his father Stevie in every way, Loud, obnoxious, and easily prone & provoked into violence. They didn't know one another and had never met their biological parents. What made these kids so much like their parents? Was it simply Nature, inherited traits due to their genetic make-up OR Nurture, being brought up in the broken governmental system filled with, mistreated & in many cases, abused children? He organically takes us on this journey, leaving us to think shouldn't we be doing a better job in this so called "advanced, wealthy, 1st world society.
Cheers 🥂
Beautifully done writeup.
I haven't heard anything about the boy being killed by the police in the story Ren read. All I have seen Ren say is that he read about a 14 year old boy who had stabbed a woman and then invented the rest. (It would be highly unlikely for a young boy to be killed by our police.) Would love to read/watch him discuss it in more detail if you know where you saw it?
Loved your commentary @robmarar. The trilogy is one I shy away from (I really can't cope very well with violent imagery0 but I really appreciated your insight. Thank you
@@MissMeKate Yeah, police are not armed in London, generally speaking! There was no 14 year old shot by the police in London, didn't happen. If Ren did take the shooting from a real life occurrence, that happened in the good old USA - Trayvon Martin and Tamir Rice were both very young.
History of Tragedy. 1. Iliad. 2. Romeo and Juliet. 3. Japanese manga. 4. Ren.
What makes this even more tragic is that Jenny is a "girl of the night". She is 14 years old but "walked these streets 1000 times" in "high-heel shoes" and also the "she wanted to escape, can you blame her" hints at that...
I don’t think Jenny was a street walker, but a sweet girl, I think this tale is set in Camden Town a district of London where Amy Winehouse lived and I think Jenny was a fan that dressed like Amy, retro clothing and high heels, the statue of Amy in Camden Market show Amy wearing high heels and she walked the floor 1000 times before to visit Amy’s statue, wanting to escape is what every 14yo wants but also one of the many graffiti’s of Amy all over Camden is next the The Escape Bar which Amy did some of her first gigs in, I think Jenny wanted to sing just like Amy
@@junction6_m27VNC She was a street walker , 100% guaranteed . Ren got the idea of the original Jenny and Screech tales from reading a story of a young prostitute that was the victim of knife violence.
1000 times is around 3 years, so she started at 11? :/
@@andreasbuhrmann8442 Poetic license
@@junction6_m27VNC sorry mate i believe you’re wrong one that one
Actually, Jenny didn't fight back, she froze like a statue, and couldn't even find the strength to move enough to hand over her belongings. That's when Screech yelled about her playing games, and sliced and killed her. Jenny took after her mother Violet, who was a silent girl. She fell for a boy who was just like her father. The cycle of violence continued.
Apparently, there were weeks or months between each video release, and Ren promoted it with more tidbits about the story on TikTok, etc. Patrick, Screech's mate was actually screwing Screech's girlfriend at the time of the incident, which is why Patrick didn't answer the door, and why Screech's gf said she was busy when he phoned her.
From what I have heard, he read a newspaper article about a similar story, then took that story and embellished upon it to come up with this. He added the crazier twists and turns, I don't think all of that was part of the actual story
From what I've heard, the real-life story was that a young man killed a young women, having no idea she was his sister because they had both grown up in Britain's version of foster care. Ren added the rest. The incident took place in 2005. "London city, far from pretty. 2, 0, 0, 5.
Ren read about a young prostitute who was stabbed in London. That was Jenny's Tale. The other two came from Ren's brilliant gift of creative art.
I also wonder if Jenny looked at him funny because he looked like her?
Those lines where she freezes often go unnoticed and they are so good.
@@joshuawiedenbeck6944 I believe you misunderstood that: foxspirit38 got it right.
...she walked this floor about a 1000 times before, she wanted to escape, who can blame...i guess that she escaped is such a shame.
Jenny's tale came out 2019 and the article he read was about a 14 year boy killing a young prostitute. 2005 refers to the birth of the twins 14 years earlier.
When he sings "She never stood a chance" it just breaks my heart. Incredible delivery.
ren is off the scales so good
As a writer, this is everything a short story should be. As a DV survivor, this is both accurate to my emotional experience and, imo, respectful of all the victims.
I love seeing reactors flinch when watching this because youre supposed to - both from a storytelling perspective and in the accuracy with which he conveyed the immersive fear of those who are surviving violent people.
I also watch for the flinch. If a reactor doesn't flinch during Violet's tale I figure they're not really paying attention to the lyrics and it doesn't quite qualify as a reaction.
I'm sorry you have first hand experience to make it relatable ❤
What makes me flinch (every single time) is the description of Violet's beating; "...like a crashing pilot" sets up how vicious it was, then delving into individual blows. Doug's reaction to "...met her throat" shows his level of empathy for her.
Knox Hill did a great interview with Ren and Ren opened himself up for the first time about his best friend Joe's passing by suicide. Worth watching.
The song referencing that is amazing, btw. It had me in tears.
Black Pegasus and Rosalie Reacts also have interviews with him. In both of those interviews he mentions his creative process and gives you a glimpse in his brilliant mind, check them out, it's worth seeing them. ❤❤❤
Little opera in 3 acts. This style he calls "Bardcore" .
Working class reality... reminds me a little of "Threepenny Opera" by Brecht and Weill. Many people talk about him as a modern Shakespeare. He introduced the whole "opera" to his audience in a performance on a public place at night in Brighton. (Also availiable on YT) The crowd gathered by doing a little rally to this place. The whole performance then was awesome, but the connection to the crowd was a breathtaking experience. Ren said, it was one of the best nights in his life...
Cool that you mention Brecht and Weill. That's what I thought and you're the first person I've seen in the comments who have made the same connection.
This is true songwriting/story telling. When I heard "Hi Ren", I thought this is probably a one hit wonder kind of thing. Then I heard this and realized, he is the real thing. Just wow!
commenting to add then I heard losing it and realised he can be fun and enjoyable as well as dark and deep
Ren is writing a musical drama, he's hoping to pitch it to Netflix one day. He said this trilogy is his proof of concept.
As a result of Ren, I'm currently active with a plethora of reactors. YOU sir, are the first one to point out "God Rest Ye Merry". What I heard the first time too. He strung all these together as a courtesy to those of us on RUclips who had no clue what order to play them in. One of my favorite parts of Violet's Tale is his use of ambient reverb, both in the hallway and the stairwell. "Normally" you'd add that in post, but this is a live take. Each piece opens with a beautiful intro, followed by the opening theme...and in all 3 cases, comes back at the end. The kids would have gone to an orphanage, and quickly separated. Screech became a right bastard like grandpa, and Jenny became a quiet streetwalker.
There are 4 major interviews out there: Justin Hawkins, Knox Hill, Black Pegasus. and Rosalie Reacts. I'd make suggestions, but EVERY piece of Ren's work is something of a unique seashell; and it's ALL good. "Chalk Outlines" and "How to Be Me" with Chinchilla (another artist I'd recommend looking into) are pretty amazing.
Jenny was a 14 yr old prostitute (she walked the streets a thousand times before; stayed as still as a statue in high heeled shoes), based on a headlined story Ren read in a paper about a young prostitute stabbed by a young boy.
In Ren's songs, Jenny and Screech are born in violence, raised in the system and both died rough in the street. Their mother was silent, like Jenny and Screech was angry and prone to violence like their "father." (It's also theorized that Violet's father was also the father of her children. That's one of the few ways she'd get a welfare flat at 16... pregnant. Also would explain why Stevie kept calling her a liar and a slut when he got drunk. She was already pregnant when they met)
Generational violence, nature or nurture cannot be answered in this tale because they were "nurtured" in the same abusive type environment that their mother was. So it could still be either/or or a combo of both.
You hear about the violence (not necessarily the twisty Shakespearean part) every day. Unfortunately, children are killed every day because of it. I like how Ren brings this horrible, too often avoided, subject to attention in all its bloodstained horror with the beauty and vivid imagery of a painting. Lyrical imagery. It hurts, but it's beautifully done. I think that sums up a lot of Ren's work. He's amazing and world changing. Definitely one to keep your eyes on!
Did you notice how he used the natural acoustics of the different rooms to color the story? Pure Genius
The Tales Trilogly is a Masterpiece other Tracks 1.Humble with Eden Nash' 2.Power 3.The Hunger 4.Diazepam 5.Chalk Outlines with Chinchilla (another great Reaction Doug)
Wikipedia 2223 A.D.: "REN - Musician & philosopher & poet & bard &... just genius of 21-st century!" Thanks for reaction!
I think you'd really appeciate his newest song 'For Joe". Performed live on keyboard, it's written for his childhood friend who committed suicide thirteen years ago by jumping from a bridge. It's quite stark and powerful, both bitter and beautiful.
Check out the money game parts 1&2 cause Ren said he just finished the video for part 3. It's some of his thoughts on society. Along with "crucify you culture"
So glad someone finally mentioned “Crucify Your Culture”! It’s like the prequel to the Money Game (soon to be) trilogy ❤
Yep, and at 14 years old what is Jenny doing out late at night in high heels walking down a street she knew well and walked a thousand times before? Sounds like she was forced through circumstances into underaged prostitution. So, Ren is shinging a light on..... alcoholism, rape/incest, domestic violence, failure of any kind of functional social safety net or foster care system, drug use, street violence, domestic violence and generational social aberrations of multiple kinds. And he's doing it as an independent artist, live in one take, while working with a great independent cinematographer to boot. Unreal! This is art!
We don’t know it was late at night, all Ren says is it’s a quiet dark night so it could be 7pm in December, it would be dark at that time and not that late, I’m doing a breakdown of all the characters every Sunday on my YT, jenny is already posted
@@junction6_m27VNC not really important how late it was for a working girl, the darkness helps their John's hide their identities though. As far as that goes, working girls work their trade in daylight too.
So glad to see you doing this one. Your reactions are so unique, as is Ren and his artistry. I think Shakespearean tragedy hits the nail on the head for this tale.
Glad you noted the reggae and busker. Ren moved to Brighton some years back and did much busking on his own, and with his band The Big Push. You can do yourself a HUGE favor and check out some of their stuff. Just amazing how good they are at connecting with the crowd.
FYI, Ren has hinted that he has spoken to a studio...possibly to flesh this out into something bigger?
Honestly, if Ren and Samuel don't get a Netflix show of their own, then there is something wrong with this world.
Ren has had studio offers, and turned them down. He's staying independent. Did you hear something different very recently?
@@PoliticallyPinkprobably talking about television studios rather than music ones in this instance?
@@MurkW00d exactly.
Shakespeare with an O. Henry twist. Ren is so literate, so poetic, so powerful. Knew you'd love this Doug.
Such a shame when reactors have the lyrics pulled up and read along instead of just watching the video and enjoying the surprise
Jenny did not fight back sir, she froze scared just like her mother. Congrats, many reactors miss the twins connection there!! Great reaction
One of my favourites by Ren is How to be me (Live) with Chinchilla. I think this will show his songwriting and vocal range. But there's so much more, Money Game, Animal Flow (both versions in one reaction). Genesis or Power will show his rapping flow. He'll keep you going all year.
Was waiting for months for this! Loved it! Thanks for doing this one! I always assume Jenny and Screech were separated at birth and raised in the system , thus didn’t know each other. But who knows. Can’t wait for more Ren reactions!
She didn't fight screech and it's important to the story because how he made it was the kids took the traits of the parents. Jenny was quiet and didn't fight back just like Jenny, while beaten to death by Stevie, just like screech killed jenny. The depth of this story is insanity.
I recommend switching it up a little and doing The Hunger. Ren is a fantastic lyricist.
Money game part 1 and Money game part 2 (lyric video) are your next best options, they are social commentary type stories that always resonate. Then probably Chalk Outlines Live with Chinchilla for just some amazing vocals. He’s approaching a million subs so a push on reactions will help him 😉
Money game part 1
Yep, I got that "God rest ye...." intro. In my mind,, it sets the story on Christmas Eve. (Wish you saved the commentary for when you stop the track - I wanted to hear the lyrics)
Ren is just "art" personified..... A real gem. He's just released a new track "suici#e" , it's deep but heart wrenching, but his other side is fun and goofy, check out loosing it, it's a real rollercoaster of a track with fantastic lyrics and cadence to and EDM beat.
I definitely didn't find Suicide heartwarming. More like heart-breaking, for sure. For Joe was a fresh breath towards life though, which I think we needed. Losing it is one of my favorites! Love it! (then again, which ones AREN'T "*one of* my favorites"??
Ren read a newspaper article about a boy who killed a girl, and was then killed by the police. The cop said "It's such a shame."
I don’t think that is exactly correct.
@@supertuscans9512 That's just what I read awhile back.
London cops don’t carry guns. The first story was in the paper about the girl getting killed by knife. The rest of it is straight from Rens imagination over the next few years.
A hidden side story in Screech’s tale could be that Patrick is not at home because he is with Screech’s girlfriend (that’s why she was “busy”). Maybe Screech figured it out when he yelled at her and decided to face the blue lights.
That. 12:28 "a Shakespearean Tragedy" perfect comparison. Only the bard himself would've wrote anything equal to this. 👏🏻 💖
First time reacting to you and have to be honest the fact that you are repeating what Ren is saying and talking over the video is quite annoying … 😶
this will be interesting. Is it the full version? Violette´s Tale as well?
"The thing that I've heard multiple times is to not read through the lyrics," they said.
You didn't read the lyrics... except, you did.
"Megan has prepared my read-in and the lyrics are here below so I can follow them." I mean - that let me know before the songs started. You had them right there in front of you whilst watching this masterpiece. You're only human. As we all do - you craved that answer. What answer? WHERE DOES VIOLET COME INTO ALL OF THIS?
Can we not see where your eyes go when we watch this? For that reveal at the end? Well, of course, we can... they dropped low. They read the lyrics. You read the lyrics.
Let the man (Ren) tell you the story before you jump the gun.
When you are advised to not read the lyrics... don't read the lyrics.
That being said; it was an enjoyable reaction. I think a little genuine honesty was lost as I saw your eyes picking up the threads of lyrics. So... c'mon, man. Give yourself some credit and react without the need for such crutches.
A little harsh? Maybe. True? Yes.
I agree with your sentiment here Skooten, and would would just underscore that many of us watch multiple reactions to the same piece because each reactor enriches our own appreciation of the piece -- perhaps cognitively with an insight, perhaps technically by bringing their expertise to bear, but most fundamentally when they allow their own visceral response to to pierce through all the layers of technique, all the ways in which the medium through which they reach out to us tends to shape the artist's work, the reactor's work and our own conditioning to just experience a fleeting moment of authentic connection.
Thank you. I left my own comment about it but just today cause I just watched this, and I just found your comment after I already commented. It is obvious sometimes he is even moving the mouth to lyrics that didn't happen yet, and the switching of his eyes from left to right is super obvious...
Got some of the best advice from my 4th grade teacher miss Miller "when your talking your not listening and will miss important things you may need later .
Maybe she should’ve taught you grammar instead.
The story is set in London but was filmed in Brighton on the south coast (hence the seagulls after “she stayed silent”).
I feel this is social commentary on generational trauma. Ren teaches empathy with these dark tales, in a world so Quick to dismiss the suffering of the poor. Violet was never to blame, and her children bore the brunt of her lot in life. Screech became his father, Jenny became her mother, silent and still, unable to fight back. She froze, like her mother stayed quiet and endured her suffering in silence.
Whoever told you Violets tale was a prequel might as well have told you everything…
The use of environmental acoustics especially in Violets tale adds so much to the music
the bit in the stairwell was chilling I felt.
Powerful performance. Haven't heard this guitarist/singer/composer before, but he has some powerful ideas.
Ren is a master storyteller. Many refer to this style of his work as “Bardcore,” and it definitely is a modern day Shakespearean tragedy. It’s a powerful depiction of generational trauma and the cycles of abuse.
Ren even released Instagram stories as Screech that shows more of a backstory. It likely wasn’t a coincidence that his friend Patrick wasn’t home and his girlfriend was busy.
And it’s tragic when you realize that Jenny is only 14 walking the streets alone at night. They likely grew up in foster care. Makes you wonder if Jenny could sense Screech because they were twins or if she could sense the danger. But she froze just like her mother.
Ren can tell a story like none other 💜
This is probably one of the only times you dont want to read lyric as you are watching. It will spoil the impact...and its hard to hide when you already read it.
You're going to love this Doug.
He misses so much because he is so into himself lol
Doug there are so many Ren tracks to choose from - as countless others have mentioned. He has brought so many people from all walks of life together through his art. He has given me hope in the music of today and champions music not as a commodity but as a way of life. I would love to see you react to many more. I think you'd love seeing his band covering "I shot the sheriff/road to Zion/hip hop" and also his duet with Chinchilla "How to be me". Welcome to the Ren-aissance!Thank you for your valuable musical insights. 🔥✌️
For me it’s the clarity of Rens words even when he is showing emotion that is haunting, I felt terrible bobbing my head along to the rhythm as he describes some pretty horrific violence, the pictures painted in my head will stay with me a long time, Ren is a true artist, there should be a serious BBC or Netflix show discussing this masterpiece
I can’t imaging anyone being able to just be able to read the lyrics and not being completely immersed in RENs performance. It’s is just so mesmerising, imaginative and truly a piece of art.
I've been waiting for this a very long time. Thank you so much sir thank you thank you Ren is a good boy a great man thank you for featuring him.
It's a masterpiece! I love Money Game pt2. Give that a try... More brilliance🙌
Ren loves reactors and does interviews with them you don't have to react to the interviews you can just watch them to understand what is behind his creations and what he hsa suffered, endured & enjoyed.
I'm always running into you at these reactions. Hi again! Do you sketch? I DO, a lot!
Great reaction! Absolutely loved it! I think you might enjoy Money Game Pt.1 and Pt. 2, first one is a 5 minute live one take, second one is just "chefs kiss".
FYI you can’t hear the lyrics nor can we if you talk over the song. Pause it if you want to talk. You’re missing parts of the story.
Before watching this, I'm hoping you dont quietly whisper back most every line immediately after Ren says them as you did in "Hi Ren". Fingers crossed.
*Edit: Snake eyes. Y'all.
His most recent video is yet another live performance of his song For Joe, he plays piano in this one. It will also blow you away with its power
I love your channel Doug 👊🏾
Amazing technical insight every time. In answer to your question on where he filmed it, it was filmed in the back lanes of Brighton where he now lives.
I came down to see
If I could find some locations and I found most of them. I also had the extreme pleasure of bumping into Ren and can confirm he’s actually an Angel sent from God 🙏🏾
I AM SO ENVIOUS!!!
I really wish that they would not have spoiled the ending by saying that violets tale was a prequel. Who the fuck does that? The element of surprise is key to the effectiveness of storytelling.
With the Ren stuff- very hard to listen to him over your constant analogy. Could you please leave until the end please. Would let those whonhave not heard before enjoy it first. It is so damn amazing stuff from him. We don't want to miss anything. Thank you very much
You read the lyrics of Violets Tale ahead to the end just before Ren sang it. You insulted the trilogy and fake guessed the ending. How to turn a sub and a like upside down. Annoyingly foolish. Have a good day.and bye.
Ren said he is going to do more tales but they will be about completely different people.
Check out “Chalk Outlines (live)” it’s a beautiful duet with UK artist Chinchilla. Its another live one-take video where Ren really shows his singing
I'm so glad you did this trilogy. It's my favorite to watch people react to. It's an absolute masterpiece of storytelling and he's 100% a modern day bard. Please continue down this rabbit hole, it's well worth your time!
Ive been waiting for this.
You did exactly what ppl said not to do. You read lyrics more than getting the full experience dude. You ruined it for yourself man smh
Hope you keep doing Ren stuff- because he has so many other amazing songs - in MANY different styles. Most of them are NOT in this BARD-CORE style. While Ren's work is mostly about the lyrics, He does also have great tunes - but most of it isn't hugely complex in terms of the music composition, so i know from that angle its not perhaps the best for analysis of that.
But if you want to break down lyrics too, there's a ton more to say on all his songs.
His work falls in a few catagories- bard-core, busking with his old band the big push, songs about his health and or mental issues, rap, and then other songs- plenty of them radio playable more regular kind of music.
His newest For Joe, with him on the keyboard is fantastic- but the first half is a reworking of his song from last month Su!c!de - that one hits very hard- whereas for joe has some beauty and hope in the latter half - I guess it depends on your taste which you like most.. and how hard it hits depends on if things like that have touched your life I guess, or how empathetic you are..
But if you do either, remember not to put the unmodified word in the title or SAY that S word in the first minute or you'll get demonitized.
This trilogy really asks one to consider how society fails people. And I am still thinking about that and if there are any solutions.
Another Ren gem aligned with this live one-take cinematic genre is Money Game 1. Really imersive.
The live version of Chalk Outlines is another one; as a bonus, you'll meet the artist Chinchilla too. Follow that up with their live How To Be Me.
An earlier music video is a total masterpiece - look for Crutch, but be warned that it's heartwrenching.
So many of his other music videos are completely different. He explores a vast array of topics, styles and vibes.
He pays homage to the Verve with a remake of Bittersweet Symphony. He remakes Fisher in Losing It. He lays down hip hop in The Hunger. His song Power will have you singing along.
There's sooooo much to explore.....and then there's his teamwork with Sam Tompkins and also with the busking band The Big Push. It's a very deep rabbit hole when you consider Ren....
You did too much research. 😂 just let it play, you had prior knowledge it was a prequel
Chalk outlines w/Chinchilla should be next. Another masterpiece.
Quite obvious you've seen this before...
Violet, at 9 months gestation, had no idea she was pregnant with twins; she'd slipped through the cracks of the health care system (very common for victims of abuse - whether they themselves don't want to have anyone see the evidence of abuse on their body and push them to leave if they're not ready to leave, or whether the abuser prevents them from seeking medical care in order to prevent the victim from being persuaded to leave the relationship and/or the involvement of law enforcement). She's never had so much as her early pregnancy ultrasound, probably not even the early fetal heatbeat check (although it can happen that the medical tech can miss a second heartbeat in the early weeks).
And yeah, Sam the camera person is an important factor in Ren's ability to tell a story. ❤
I reckon she knew she was pregnant let my babies stay alive I can't imagine her not knowing and loving her unborn children but it is possible she never knew what does Ren say about this?
@@Ruloathesome she knew she was pregnant, but the lyric Ren typed out and pinned to the video says "please let my baby stay alive" so he's saying she didn't know she was carrying twins.
Edit - wow, I see how my comment probably reads! I didn't mean Violet didn't know she was pregnant, I just meant she thought she was carrying *one* baby/didn't know it was twins.
Chalk Outlines with Chinchilla!!! The harmonizing between the two is off the charts.
We don't need guitar lessons or you talking thru the entire video reaction I hate vocal coaches
Perfect pitch and music theory insights are on point! Game recognizes game. Subbed
Genesis, Illest of our time, The Hunger, Losing it, Chalk Outlines, How to be Me, all 🔥!!! For Joe his latest release is a must! Subscribed for more Ren, loved your reaction, you nailed it! ❤
I try to figure out how to categorize what Ren is doing. Shakespearen is absolutley the best description. This is modern musical theater. Amazing art.
Jenny and Screech didn't know of each other. Ren says Jenny was walking up the street about a 1000 times and also wearing high heel shoes. she might had been working the streets. Some people say Patrick and Screech girlfriend were together that is why he couldn't get a hold of anyone. It definitely was a great story.
I don’t think Jenny was a street walker, but a sweet girl, I think this tale is set in Camden Town a district of London where Amy Winehouse lived and I think Jenny was a fan that dressed like Amy, retro clothing and high heels, the statue of Amy in Camden Market show Amy wearing high heels and she walked the floor 1000 times before to visit Amy’s statue, wanting to escape is what every 14yo wants but also one of the many graffiti’s of Amy all over Camden is next the The Escape Bar which Amy did some of her first gigs in, I think Jenny wanted to sing just like Amy. I’m doing a breakdown of all the characters in this tale on my YT every Sunday
@@junction6_m27VNC This is filmed in Brighton at times you can hear the seagulls.
He had the lyrics before the song yet tried to act surprised? 😂
Hi Doug! It was not easy watching/listening was it? But powerful stuff. Ren is amazing. If you take a look at some of his Brighton busking with The Big Push, you will see some background to Ren's story. Keep reacting.
Would love to see your reaction to a couple other Ren songs "Suic*de" and "Chalk Outlines" featuring Chinchilla. Obviously, just like Hi Ren and this one, neither are happy feel good songs, but both are fantastic as well
Ren has stated in an interview that he is working on something he wants to pitch to Netflix or some of the other movie/tv platforms. I hope he does
Ren said in a recent interview that he loves doing stuff like this and is working on another big one and trying to get a Netflix story. That would be awesome 👌
An interview I'd highly recommend, is Ren's interview/discussion with the RUclips reactor, Rosalie. It really gives a great insight into Ren's thoughts and how he views the World. As with his art, he's extremely honest, open and intelligent. He occasionally does that thing where he slightly stumbles over his words. You can tell it's not because he's tongue-tied, it's because he's thinking about 20 steps ahead, down the pathways of various possible pathways and is just trying to get it all out. :)
Ren is one of the most generous & interesting interviewees I've ever seen! No two interviews are the same in content so you won't get the predictably dull plugs for product that you'd expect from an A list popstar. An interview with Ren just flows organicaly & weaves through a maze of random topics that pop up in conversation. All his interviews tho are warm, generous, heartfelt & honest! Yes, please make the effort to set asside 90 - 120 mins of your time to interview him 😁
Ren saw a news report about a teenager who stabbed another (knife crime has risen last few years). The quote "it's such a shame" was a direct quote from a Police Officer during a press conference announcing the crime. That was his inspiration. The test is him - the genius.
Oh my God man, stop talking over the song.
Ren is in a league of his own, so pleased you did this one. If you wish to hear pure vocal brilliance x 2 please do Chalk Outlines X Chinchilla LIVE.
I'd love to follow you, I like your knowledge of music, but I don't think these are your first reactions to the songs - they don't feel authentic. 🤷🏻♀️
He’s reading the lyrics at the same time…
oh and if you liked this style of combination of songs then check out Falling in Reverse Trilogy - Losing my Mind/Life/Drugs 4k.
I know of 3 Ren interviews done by reactors. ‘Rosalie Reacts’ interview. ‘Knox Hill’ interview and ‘Black Pegasus’. All good and all taking slightly different angles.💕👍🦇
This storytelling that he is doing is so far advanced. He's a performer and a writer. An artist who I am beginning to enjoy immensely.
Hey doug I'm a marillion fanatic , but must admit I've become a massive fan of ren ever since a friend of mine from work told me to check out ren , give Losing it a review ,you will love it ,it's my play 10 times a day track
Excellent job, Doug! You completely got what Ren intended, and got the end twist! As others have said, it was a news story about a 14-year-old that had killed a prostitute and that got Ren to really trying to imagine how such a messed-up thing could happen. And then he got the bright idea of tying it all together in Shakespearean tragedy fashion by having Jenny and James (twin names for sure) be brother and sister and Violet as mother. This was the second Ren piece I ever saw, after Hi Ren, and I was, and still am, quite hooked. I was hoping that you would mention that Screech's Tale is in 3 like a waltz, at least the start of it, but so far, none of the hundreds of reactions to this I've seen have mentioned that yet. No worries--I'm sure you noticed it and just didn't focus on that, a really not-so-important detail. But as a fellow composer, I always wonder if another musician or someone else will mention that it's in 3, or if I'm the only one that noticed it. Great job, Doug! Very much enjoyed watching you react to it.
Sorry pal, this is I believe a complete fabrication.
Jenny didn't fight back, she was frozen,still as a statue with fear
Pretty obvious to me that you have the lyrics, and that you knew the end before it happened. Some parts you sang before he even mentioned them and they were not repeated before. Your surprise seemed not really legitimate.
Maybe I'm wrong but 11:07 you are clearly reading, 11:23 you clearly now what comes, cause of your gestures, and he didn't say it yet.
IDK I think you should remain honest, people told you not to have the lyrics, if you had them anyway, you didn't have to lie about it. Anyways your analysis is good, I will move on from your channel though. I wish the best on your Ren journey and a quick recovery through the issues you mentioned on the "Hi Ren" video, I felt my heart heavy for you, I also suffer from mental illness.
Anyways bye bye! Have a good one.
Please give us break down of Ren's latest song, For Joe. I enjoy the way you explain the formulas and things behind the music.
Really this whole trilogy is Violet's story. Everyone is surprised when Jenny dies but it happens. When Screech loses it and is killed by police it's more shocking but he wasn't a good guy and again, it happens. Violet though, we get her story. Her horrible childhood her unsuccessful attempt to break free. Her quiet, because no one ever listened or helped. We invest in Violet. By the time she dies we've almost forgotten about Jenny and Screech. Then BAM... it all comes together. When you go back you realize the easter eggs - Jenny and James... twins are often given the same initials. Side by side on the street. Twins born, side by side, die on the same day.. again side by side etc.. You can actually see the moment you forget about the music and just get stuck in the story.