No matter what it does or how useful it is, it’s way too expensive. And if you already into espresso and you’re used to « expensive », way too expensive means absolutely outrageously expensive.
I just graduated engineering school and could easily reproduce the exact same results with some hardware nails, leftover springs and a 3d printer. Give me $10 and I gotchu
Like I don't care if people are really having fun and I will always respect the talent of a talented barista. But yea, I don't get it. Everytime I've tried coffee I've always thought it just tasted awful but then had a kind of scarily quick followup desire for more. But also it's pretty problematic that it's so addictive but we just allow companies to get people hooked so they have to drink it several times a day.
It's visually quite understated and if it produces a better shot, can it really be called pretentious? Pretentious would be like a solid silver coffee tamper
Thank you for explaining how these are actually used. I thought it was useless to do because you just tamp down the grounds after anyways, but it works sort of like lawn aeration it seems
I use it and like it a lot. It’s true you have to be careful with it however… if you go too deep with a regular basket the slant can bend the needles and get it to « grab » some ground coffee, I use the unifilter now and it makes for a good combo because of straight edges I can go deeper
“I’ve drunk coffee in places you people wouldn’t believe. I’ve seen milk steamers glisten by the Tenhauser Gate. I’ve seen Starbucks on fire off the Shoulder Of Orion. All those beverages will be lost in time. Like froth on a macchiato”
This is such an expensive & unnecessary tool, if you get a really good grinder, it isn’t necessary, Spend £500 or more on a grinder & you won’t need it..
this tool is absolutely horible, yes it does create holes for the water to travel trough after the puck is compressed, but that leads to channeling (where more water goes trough certain parts of the puck then others), this is leads to a bad and uneven extraction, and as you can tell from the footage of the espresso shot being pulled, some parts have little to no coffee coming out, this is a bad shot of espresso
They do. The point of devices like this is to create consistent and controlled channelling throughout and across the puck. It makes sense when you think about it. What doesn't make sense is the frankly insulting price for this specific product.
@@datb0013 It means making something seem more cultured or sophisticated than it actually is. For instance spending thousands of dollars in equipment to make slightly better tasting bean water so that they can impress people they don't know on the internet.
@@UltimateWaifuXD attempting to impress by affecting greater importance, talent, culture, etc., than is actually possessed. Dude wasn’t gloating, wasn’t saying other coffee was bad, and wasn’t telling you that this tool was needed for coffee. He presented facts and some tidbits of opinion If you dislike it, fine, but don’t slander him because you don’t care about coffee.
@@datb0013 The tool isn't needed for coffee which makes it pretentious. You can make a cup of coffee with a tin can, a bottle of water, and a camp fire. None of this equipment is necessary. The fact that he owns this equipment means he's gloating and showing off.
@@UltimateWaifuXD seems like you just don’t care about specialty coffee. Which is fair, but it doesn’t mean this dude is a show off for enjoying such things. Everyone has a strange hobby they go a little too far for, it’s not a bad thing. Why are you judging this guy for enjoying his? Consider the idea of people enjoying things, and wanting to share that with others. Being a dick to him for simply sharing his passion isn’t cool
I can absolutely guarantee you that if you did a blind taste test of exact coffee with and without using this "contraption"....... Not one of them would be able to tell the difference by taste. It's all marketing of something that looks fancy and costs allot to wow your friends with a 200.00 waste of money.
@@Mandragara Right. And while high-extraction espressos can be delicious, extraction is definitely not the whole story or primary test for "best-tasting."
Doesn’t need that, if you have $200 machine you don’t need that, bcoz espresso machine’s filters are very thin, water can’t go through it, when you put coffee espresso’ Handel in, it requires lot of pressure to close it, why ? To press that coffee. and machine press the water pump to go through filter. That’s amazing job machine does. machine push coffee in that filter which water even can’t pass without heavy water pressure.
Same with anything to be honest. Don't ruin people's fun. It goes the other way also though, don't ruin people's fun if they enjoy being a bit obsessive.
The real question is, would the average home barista really notice the difference? Especially considering the price? I feel like new tools come out every single day but only a couple really make a big difference
Yo you guys know when video game just put slightly better gear and watch how people are going and pay insane money for it?. Well, this is the same thing but with coffee
"Better" will be subjective here, but the two are going after different goals. I prefer the results from the WDT which aims for a homogenous bed prior to tamping. The Porcupress instead goes for providing more even channeling, which creates slightly different results that I don't prefer, especially for the cost and faff.
I’ve been using that way on my Mini & GS3. The ear holes are smaller on two sides, so it won’t fit with a quarter turn. If you do a half turn around, so the logo is facing the opposite direction the offset will make a new set of holes instead of going back in the same ones.
ok, this is getting a bit ridiculous. i get that people like coffee, but seriously. the fucking cafe-stabber 9000 is where i draw the damn line. what's next? tampers with dyes on them to add shapes to the tamped coffee grounds, causing flavor irregularities for a greater variety of flavors? maybe an espresso cup, but the inside part of the cup is made of solid 1/8 inch thick gold, so the flavor is kept as pure and unreacted as possible? a special grinder/stabber/tamper/extractor that is kept in a vacuum chamber that removes all oxygen from the area before beginning the process, so the espresso isn't oxidized, thus delivering a more intense product?
It makes good espresso sure, but I could buy a fuckin car with that money. It actually kinda pisses me off that someone would spend that much on coffee
No matter what it does or how useful it is, it’s way too expensive. And if you already into espresso and you’re used to « expensive », way too expensive means absolutely outrageously expensive.
Amen
I would just use the pin art toy and probably get a similar results
I just graduated engineering school and could easily reproduce the exact same results with some hardware nails, leftover springs and a 3d printer. Give me $10 and I gotchu
@@cyan_2169 make me one bro start a business
@@cyan_2169I'll buy one, set up a Kickstarter or something 😸
Just use a brush from dollar store. Why complicate such things
People's obsession with coffee is honestly hilarious to me. The world's most socially acceptable drug addiction.
The world’s most tasty drug *** fixed it for ya ;)
@@MonolithStudiosMelbourne coffee is pretty disgusting tbh fam.
@@tym6217 to each their own ^_^
Like I don't care if people are really having fun and I will always respect the talent of a talented barista. But yea, I don't get it. Everytime I've tried coffee I've always thought it just tasted awful but then had a kind of scarily quick followup desire for more. But also it's pretty problematic that it's so addictive but we just allow companies to get people hooked so they have to drink it several times a day.
Its like the far far cousin of amphetamine.
get a $10 meat tenderizer, call it "porcupress", and sell them for $200 to coffee elitist = Profit!!
Similar to the clear ice maker. Over priced and has almost no actual use in the actual craft.
Well, $295, that's like 20 coffee bags :)
that's about 30 of em
This is the most pretentious thing I’ve seen today
Then don’t buy it, and block this dude. Why are you commenting? You know that pushes more coffee videos into your recommended right?
It's visually quite understated and if it produces a better shot, can it really be called pretentious?
Pretentious would be like a solid silver coffee tamper
Thank you for explaining how these are actually used. I thought it was useless to do because you just tamp down the grounds after anyways, but it works sort of like lawn aeration it seems
I knew exactly what you meant when I read the title haha.
It’s the only one that has ever made me bleed haha
I use it and like it a lot. It’s true you have to be careful with it however… if you go too deep with a regular basket the slant can bend the needles and get it to « grab » some ground coffee, I use the unifilter now and it makes for a good combo because of straight edges I can go deeper
Ok but after you tamp all those holes are gone, like this is completely useless
the equivalent of a magical DAC but for coffee
audiophile power cable
The music feels like you're a kid riding Spaceship Earth again.
Bladerunner-esque
“I’ve drunk coffee in places you people wouldn’t believe. I’ve seen milk steamers glisten by the Tenhauser Gate. I’ve seen Starbucks on fire off the Shoulder Of Orion. All those beverages will be lost in time. Like froth on a macchiato”
@@Torahboy1 Do you make up these quotes? Or do they write 'em down for you?
@@CaveyMoth
Bladerunner
Mis-remembered
Or……. reinvented ?
@@Torahboy1 More remembered than remembered is our motto.
This is such an expensive & unnecessary tool,
if you get a really good grinder, it isn’t necessary,
Spend £500 or more on a grinder & you won’t need it..
this tool is absolutely horible, yes it does create holes for the water to travel trough after the puck is compressed, but that leads to channeling (where more water goes trough certain parts of the puck then others), this is leads to a bad and uneven extraction, and as you can tell from the footage of the espresso shot being pulled, some parts have little to no coffee coming out, this is a bad shot of espresso
Indeed you are correct, I was expecting it to create many holes
After many blind taste test, we have concluded that you guys will waste money on anything.
Why is this dangerous? If you use it correctly then it shouldn't be a problem
doesn't this run the risk of channelling? or do the holes seal up quick enough for it to not be an issue
They do. The point of devices like this is to create consistent and controlled channelling throughout and across the puck.
It makes sense when you think about it. What doesn't make sense is the frankly insulting price for this specific product.
@@it-s-a-mystery It makes sense, but I still prefer the WDT after comparison testing.
@@error.418 This is what matters :)
So its a tool to artificaly create channeling?
Thats just beyond me.
So many pointless tools exist for espresso. Stuff like this is pure snake oil.
absolutely useless
Is what your father regrets saying 9 months before you were born
The lengths coffee snobs will go to make their hobby as pretentious as possible LMAO.
You don’t know what that actually means huh
@@datb0013 It means making something seem more cultured or sophisticated than it actually is. For instance spending thousands of dollars in equipment to make slightly better tasting bean water so that they can impress people they don't know on the internet.
@@UltimateWaifuXD attempting to impress by affecting greater importance, talent, culture, etc., than is actually possessed.
Dude wasn’t gloating, wasn’t saying other coffee was bad, and wasn’t telling you that this tool was needed for coffee. He presented facts and some tidbits of opinion
If you dislike it, fine, but don’t slander him because you don’t care about coffee.
@@datb0013 The tool isn't needed for coffee which makes it pretentious. You can make a cup of coffee with a tin can, a bottle of water, and a camp fire. None of this equipment is necessary. The fact that he owns this equipment means he's gloating and showing off.
@@UltimateWaifuXD seems like you just don’t care about specialty coffee. Which is fair, but it doesn’t mean this dude is a show off for enjoying such things.
Everyone has a strange hobby they go a little too far for, it’s not a bad thing. Why are you judging this guy for enjoying his?
Consider the idea of people enjoying things, and wanting to share that with others. Being a dick to him for simply sharing his passion isn’t cool
Completely unnecessary
Much like your comment
@@Sprometheus turn off the comments then.
Dangerous?? 😂😂 maybe for your bank account.
It seems like it would lead to terrible channeling
I can absolutely guarantee you that if you did a blind taste test of exact coffee with and without using this "contraption"....... Not one of them would be able to tell the difference by taste. It's all marketing of something that looks fancy and costs allot to wow your friends with a 200.00 waste of money.
Coffee can be very dangerous if done properly :-D
That’s a fact
The recent white papers are showing the extremely fine grind applications are doing it wrong, though... I don't think this is a long-term tool.
There's also the basic issue that extraction =\= flavour. High-extraction espressos are not the best-tasting espressos
@@Mandragara Right. And while high-extraction espressos can be delicious, extraction is definitely not the whole story or primary test for "best-tasting."
Doesn’t need that, if you have $200 machine you don’t need that, bcoz espresso machine’s filters are very thin, water can’t go through it, when you put coffee espresso’ Handel in, it requires lot of pressure to close it, why ? To press that coffee. and machine press the water pump to go through filter. That’s amazing job machine does. machine push coffee in that filter which water even can’t pass without heavy water pressure.
Lol, what $200 machine?
@@error.418 $200 Coffee machine Lol
Wow this is really dangerous.
Those needles are stupidly big
It creates channels used like this.
People who cry about other people's coffee preference are honestly sad.
Same with anything to be honest. Don't ruin people's fun. It goes the other way also though, don't ruin people's fun if they enjoy being a bit obsessive.
I put nescafe in hot water...
Why is it dangerous though..huh
I feel like you could take some engineering student to design and 3-d print something similar and it would be much less money.
You don't need an engineering degree to 3D print this. You anyway don't need it, use a WDT or even a needle.
@@KkingRapstar Yes, you don't, that's why I used the word "student"
@@MB-rc8ie Yes, but you don't need the person to be an "engineering" student or even a "student" either.
The real question is, would the average home barista really notice the difference? Especially considering the price? I feel like new tools come out every single day but only a couple really make a big difference
medieval torture device
How is it dangerous?
Wouldnt say its dangerous at all, would say you've got a higher risk of an exploding mocha pot with a clogged pressure relief valve
Yeah pressure vessels are terrifying
People do everything for retention these days
Cleaning this will be a nightmare
Compressed air maybe?
Coffee people will buy anything
Your mom actually paid for this one
@@Sprometheus she was always too generous to the little retards asking her for money
Coffee people have too much time on their hands
People literally spend hours watching TV, playing video games and enjoying other hobbies, how is this any different?
this is cringe lol
Yo you guys know when video game just put slightly better gear and watch how people are going and pay insane money for it?.
Well, this is the same thing but with coffee
If you are into it. Thats fine.
But i am not going to spend all the money and effort just for an espresso.
Why? Lol
Why is this any better than a WDT tool?
"Better" will be subjective here, but the two are going after different goals. I prefer the results from the WDT which aims for a homogenous bed prior to tamping. The Porcupress instead goes for providing more even channeling, which creates slightly different results that I don't prefer, especially for the cost and faff.
Music name? Pls
Stephen Keech - Digital Abyss
I can’t wait to try out their new billet baskets!
For sure, I’ve got some cool stuff coming from him in the near future as well.
“Most dangerous” is a relative term
Like out of a spoon, ladle, and fork the fork is the “most dangerous”
its just coffee
Ll
Great for coffee. Also great for a bad back
I may have to give it a try
Snake oil
what else don't if the tamper is wet as well rule to pack, and clean it every time of use to avoid is a fundamental law
Expresso tools coming right from hellraiser movies.
I love it how authentic espresso uses none of these tools lmao.
the equivalent of a magical DAC but for coffee
Thank you.
You’re welcome my friend!
What is this track??????
If you turn it 180 and press again, the offset insert will double your holes 👍
Unfortunately it doesn’t on La Marzocco portafilters, the ear holes are smaller on one side for some reason I’ll never understand haha
I’ve been using that way on my Mini & GS3. The ear holes are smaller on two sides, so it won’t fit with a quarter turn. If you do a half turn around, so the logo is facing the opposite direction the offset will make a new set of holes instead of going back in the same ones.
Hear me out
Song?
ok, this is getting a bit ridiculous.
i get that people like coffee, but seriously. the fucking cafe-stabber 9000 is where i draw the damn line.
what's next? tampers with dyes on them to add shapes to the tamped coffee grounds, causing flavor irregularities for a greater variety of flavors?
maybe an espresso cup, but the inside part of the cup is made of solid 1/8 inch thick gold, so the flavor is kept as pure and unreacted as possible?
a special grinder/stabber/tamper/extractor that is kept in a vacuum chamber that removes all oxygen from the area before beginning the process, so the espresso isn't oxidized, thus delivering a more intense product?
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Sees perfect for finding that hard to find meridian :)
Video before this was a trans woman debate.
It makes good espresso sure, but I could buy a fuckin car with that money. It actually kinda pisses me off that someone would spend that much on coffee
Get therapy.