Well plastic man can only be killed by one thing, frozen and shattered. It’s his only weakness and way to kill him. His comic version is practically DCs version of well Deadpool. A funny man who is seen more as a joke, but unlike mr.pool, Plastic mans jokey battle style of never being serious doesn’t work as much… but like Deadpool if serious he has the potential to rival the greatest hero’s in terms of strength (he can rival Superman in terms of power if Superman couldn’t freeze him that is, Deadpool meanwhile was able to murder the entire marvel universe once)
@@rontheauraknight9606 Actually he doesn't even IF he's frozen and shattered. He has to be kept that way if they don't want him coming back. The dude is basically invincible AND immortal. A powerhouse.
his shinning moment in the comic was sacrficing himself to help the green lantern corps escape from superman's prison and get them their rings back. they substituted to just breaking out 1 man and him still not doing much
@ZernoHD dk man. I liked how Superman and Batman was forced to work together against Brainiac. Also Injustice 2 storyline better fleshed out the side characters
Seems like they killed off the Flash to give Plastic Man and Mr. Terrific more screen time. Like instead of Flash playing chess against Superman, it was Mr. Terrific playing chess against Superman.
@@thehighground7926 and even worse is it was thrown by an angsty emo brat. And my biggest gripe is Nightwing wouldn't die like that when he was Robin he'd go toe to toe with foes like Grundy, Crock and Bane
I thought nightwings death was intense in the comic. I found it very interesting and it shows how amazing the bat family is because they are mortal and can die easily. They aren't God's. And the only reason he died was because he was attacked by someone in his family and was caught off guard. I thought it was heart-breaking. That's just my take on it though
The mighty nightwing, the protector of Bloodhaven and the first to be taught by batman... Dies cause he was hit in the head to strong, because a spoilt angsty brat threw it
I liked it too, it felt like it was supposed to be unceremonious to show that they are just people. And the way it was given a bigger reaction in the comic, we see not just batman grieve but also damien.
The thing I hated the most was them leaving Black Canary out of this. She’s an integral character in the story and I don’t understand why they left her out. The story felt rushed and weird, including the death of Flash. The only part I liked was when Catwoman comforted Batman after Dick’s death, but that’s just straight from the comics.
Actually, as someone who has also read all the comics, she helps in the downfall of Superman by videotaping him and showing to the world how corrupted he had become. She also gives us an interesting perspective on the story after Ollie dies, so… I think she did a little more than nothing. But if that’s your opinion, that’s totally okay. Have a nice day!
It was 30 seconds long and I was tearing up bro not a drill, literally the only time I think I've ever seen Batman break down like that and it was beautiful
I oddly loved how they used Plastic Man in this. I know it doesn't really work in context, but he's the only character to actually make me laugh and his voice acting isn't god-awful
@@ssjdeadpool AND THE FACT THAT YOU *KNEW* I WAS REFERRING TO HOW GILLIAN JACOBS BRITTAD HARLEY QUINN IS EXACTLY HOW BAD SHE DOES IN IT. GILLIAN JACOBS IS A GREAT ACTRESS. HARLEY QUINN IS A RELATIVELY YOUNG CHARACTER. LET GILLIAN GIVE HER A NEW TAKE INSTEAD OF AN IMPERSONATION OF AN IMPERSONATION OF AN IMPERSONATION
"When it comes to evil Superman, they went red kryptonite...when they should have went Brightburn." Jesus, that's a fantastic line. Perfectly succinct.
At least the biggest problem of The Killing Joke was a shitty first half about Batgirl and Batsex. The second half was true to the comic. Injustice just botched up everything.
@@OverLorD768 I mean, kinda? The killing joke part feels more like a cheap copy with no real feeling, but it's true Injustice is just a mess compared to it
@@Brotherofthe4thCompany I noticed that myself and was enjoying the nod to both styles. It was also a lot better to tell them apart than what the game did. I didn't have any trouble keeping track of which one was player one and which was player two.
It was terrible even if we ignore the source material. I'm sorry but it was. I can go on in more details but most already did (hint: flash is one of the complaints). I'm a huge injustice "fan" (that recognizes injustice is far from perfect) but this adaptation was awful if you consider the source material and mediocre at best if you consider its own thing
Didn’t even watch the movie yet, but the thing that annoys me the most up front, is the fact that there are multiple universes like in the games, with good and bad versions of characters fighting each other. This was cool for a fighting game (alternate costumes / interesting match ups) but feels jarring in a movie. Some people might prefer this because it’s more accurate to the source material, but imho this multiverse stuff is ruining als the tension and immersion. Because you just know that nothing matters in the bad universe and that everything is fine at the "real" one. If I wanted the same story, I could just go with the games. What I hoped for was them focusing on this one timeline and making it all play out within this universe. Could have been really cool.
I gotta disagree about Joker's VA. It could be the script or even the voice director's fault. The choice of dialogue is usually not left up to the VA and can make even great VAs underperform.
The worst thing about this movie was how they showed superman's transition . In the comics it takes 4 years for him to become the evil tyrant but here he just instantly becomes one within only mere months . 1.Wonder woman is the one who starts pushing him to the dark side and begins his transition. 2. Sinestro is the main reason to corrupt superman his morals , his belief that get poisoned by sinestro's involvement. This is where superman starts losing control. 3. 'The man who lost everything' is a very important arc in year 3 that leaves a deep scar in his psyche even more . Giving him back what he had lost , showing him what could have been and just taking it away. Honestly i think the movie should have adapted only a few issues from year 1 Till batman and his team invades the fotress of solitude and he gets his hands on the pills and cutting away to build up the hype that now batman can go toe to toe with superman. This would have led to more people joining in and led to a whole new series just imagine How good it would have been for Dc.
@Lujack Shaw ww sucked in the comics. She had no arc and was just an asshole. You don't have to make her completely righteous (which this movie didn't do) but don't make her a completely unlikable jerk.
Injustice WW is hated even by fans of the comics and games since she written as an awful person with nothing in common with her mainstream counterpart. Superman doesn't feel like he was ever a hero in Injustice but at least he had a reason given for becoming a villain. WW just is evil.
@Lujack Shaw Or here's a thought. Maybe they didn't want to portray her like that... because it's completely out-of-character? The writer of the Injustice comics himself (Tom Taylor) has stated multiple times that he's not a fan of the way he wrote her in the comic series. He stated that for the sake of the plot, he basically had to convince himself that he was writing an entirely different character. *And it showed* . The Diana in the Injustice comics acted nothing like Wonder Woman.... she was practically unrecognizable. And from a CHARACTER standpoint, that's just poor writing. Trust me, if the Injustice comics depicted Batman as a complete murdering lunatic who gave up his entire moral compass to scamper around for some random woman's attention, people would be PISSED. Because it's just unbelievably out-of-character. And well, that's exactly what they did to Wonder Woman. So the movie at least TRIED to give her a more believable arc near the end, as rushed as it was. Not saying it was perfect, but it was at least a step up from the comics. At the end of the day, it had nothing to do with 'perfect female depictions' or media reception, and everything to do with knowing the character. The real Diana would never do the crap she did in those comics. And the writer himself would affirm that.
Don’t know what the fuck they were thinking. A series would have been better because it gives MORE TIME to have the story develop. A movie is too fast and at max, a two hour movie can be exhausting. A series helps cover more content during all the years of injustice. Series can also give spotlight to other character development besides batman and Superman.
The moment Martian Manhunter was missing, I knew something was gonna be off. "You never trusted me. Two aliens and you followed the one that looked like you" is an iconic fan loved moment in the Injustice Series that really highlighted how personal biases have influenced if not corrupted the minds of the heroes. Add in the fact there is no Shazam death, Barry gets killed immediately, and we don't see Alfred beat down Superman. The iconic energy that made the series great is severely missing.
@@OmniDan26 What's cringe is making that account and posting what you do for attention. We get it. You want to rile people up because you love the attention whether it's good or bad. That's a sad and cringe filled life to live man.
If Injustice was animated as a show it would’ve blown up bigger than Invincible, given tons of animators new jobs, and potentially gain back some popularity from Marvel
@@immentallyhandicapped2903 they jump the shark waay too much. i get that it's a different universe and all, but the characters do such horrific things that it makes no sense that they started out similar to the characters we know which kind of defeats the purpose of the story imo. like i could buy that superman decides to become essentially a dictator after what joker did to him, but once he starts killing his former friends that's pushing it too far. at that point the story no longer is "superman experienced something horrible which made him turn into a dictator" but "a completely different version of superman becomes evil". and some of the other heroes act so out of character that they essentially are just completely different characters
It had so much potential, They would've just made the "Year" thing like in the comics. Its better and they could have introduced the first animated cliffhangers in the history of animated movies
As someone who didn't play the games and only read injustice 1 and 2, I thoroughly enjoyed this movie and was attached to it from start to stop, I only wish it wasn't all condensed and they made room(there still is) for future movies in this timeline
yeah I thought the first hour was pretty good really. I just think they shouldn't have ended it in one movie. Instead ending with a small victory for the bat team and with public opinion turning totally against superman. Then the next movie could be about beating him.
The disrespect to flash in the movie was disgusting. Flash had a huge part in the games and comics. But...in the movie he died like a dummy, and no one seemed to cared. As s huge flash fan..I was disappointed
To me, it seems like the Joker has a split personality. Just about every time that speaks, he starts off as the Joker personality, then halfway through, his "movie" Pennywise personality takes over and finishes the dialogue. It seems like whoever's in charge of the movie couldn't decide which clown is the more evil one out of the two, so they ended up combining the two, resulting in the character being nothing but an awful joke instead of being the Joker.
Jokers voice reminds me of Star Scream’s voice in Transformers: Prime. It sounds cunning, and deceptive, but definitely lacks intimidation and that iconic Joker sarcasm.
During my call center days, I worked in the back section of a mall. On the other side of the mall was one of the few comic book stores in town. I remember having every issue of Injustice waiting for me in my pull box and it was always an exciting feeling to head over there either on lunch or after I clocked out to get my orders. Injustice Years 1-5 was the first full series I bought from start to finish as it was released (before Injustice Ground Zero, Injustice 2 and all the other crossover comics and spinoff stories). So, trust and believe watching this movie was as disgraceful to any Injustice fan (one who knows the source material; both games and comics) as Nightwing dying by falling onto a rock... The way DC freaked up this film despite ALL OF THE SOURCE MATERIAL TO PULL FROM is as bad as the live action films being trash when they have a nearly INFINITE catalogue of source material to pull from! When they announced the movie I was excited because I thought it would be the start of a series of movies! Maybe a movie per year of the comics or something. Year 2 was probably my favorite because of the Green vs. Yellow Lantern War...oh yeah...was I letdown...
@@ToMtRoOpEr05 you're 100% correct. He got hit in the head by the baton, stumbled and his neck hit the rock resulting in his death. I'm not saying it had to be a gruesome death (trust me Injustice has more than enough of those), but his death should've been a bit more meaningful. Heck, the biggest thing to happen from his death was the massive rift between Bruce and Damian.
@@OurKindofEntertainment that's not true, although it seemed like his death went nowhere at first he ended up being choosen by deadman himself to take the title of deadman. this part was half assed and barley explained in the movie, but basically deadman had to choose someone to take the title of deadman and he deemed nightwing the most worthy. he would have still been dead if deadman didnt pick him.
If was a show, that would be great. It wasnt terrible (like Rob Zombie's Halloween 1 and 2) but I do understand why it wasnt totally like the game but the should have done more directed to the game as a 2 partier movie than push it all into one.
What makes Barry's death worse in the film is he was voiced by Yuri Lowenthal and even more? They had him voice 3 additional roles. Mirror Master, Shazam and The Atom. It's as if they didn't want to pay him additional money for 4 roles so they killed Flash..... AN IMPORTANT CHARACTER IN INJUSTICE KILLED FOR THE SAKE OF DOING IT!
This movie would've been good if I didn't know how much better it could've been. It could've done the games and graphic novels proper justice as a proper series
I know it was probably unintentional since the anime isn't super well known kn the US, but when he sounded like he was inspired by the character Jake Martinez. I swear to god, the way he said "It will be the best joke ever" it was said in the same way Jake said a very similar line. For extra coincidence points, Jake was obviously inspired by the Joker, so this Joker is basically an inferior imitation of a character who was inspired BY the character he was doing an inferior imitation of.
The thing that bummed me out the most about Flash's early death was that we were completely robbed of that moment in the comics where he runs down the longest road in Australia to clear his head and starts throwing up when he sees roadkill that reminded him of a kid the Regime beat the crap out of for no reason.
Couldn't help but notice that they changed Nightwing's death ever so slightly. In the comics as he falls he bashes his neck directly into some broken rubble while knocked out which is what broke his neck but in the movie he just kinda lands on the floor after the initial strike to the head. So in one instance it's more of an accident while in the other the blame is pretty much entirely on Robin.
Wonder Woman is such an interesting case in Injustice. She’s a hard sell, like it took me years to believe that characterization and sometimes it still makes me scoff. But she’s so pivotal to the story that the fact that it was walked back on at all made me roll my eyes. I think everyone knew they wanted evil Superman, and evil Wonder Woman wound up being this interesting, if flawed surprise.
Yeah, I was very interested in Wonder Woman in the series because it was kinda way off base but I was like "Well ok, at least they are sticking to it!" and I remember her kicking Supes ass a few times here and there in the series. I recall getting into endless arguments with people calling her a bitch and this and that, but I was like "Oh...well why is an Evil Wonder Woman a harder sell than a Superman that just killed a teenager?" Now since they walked her entire character back and Supes relationship with her... I'm sorta like what's the point? If you're gonna go evil just commit to it.
I disagree. You have to understand that a gigantic part of Wonder Woman’s characterization is predicated on her relationship with the heroic Steve Trevor. In Injustice, Steve Trevor is actually a Nazi spy that manipulated and tricked the Amazons. It basically completely flips her initial impression of man’s world.
Interesting? Injustice Wonder Woman is absolute character assassination. It is a betrayal of everything she is about, and her reasons for being such are rather weak. She isn't even a captivating villain, just a slutty bitch.
@@FriedChckn13 I'm kinda tired of Wonder Woman being boring as hell in alternate versions of reality where she's supposed to be bad. If Superman can cut loose why can't Diana? Why is it ok to have a Batman who Laughs but Wonder Woman is too previous to be a villain? I kinda like the premise because it's very rarely done and she's always given a way out of her evil in one way or another in most evil versions of herself. They either go too far or not far enough. Like imagine all the cool crap you could give Diana, you could go all Kratos Goddess of War with her and use that greek historic badassery to its fullest peak. I kinda get that dudes are easier to sell as absolute monsters but it's been done so many times. Although whether you agree with me or not I definitely don't think they did a good job here with her. I kinda rolled my eyes when she said _"Your will be done.."_ XD, that line felt like it was ripped from some hyper-sexualized fanfic.
@@Unworshipediety It’s a combination of Wonder Woman understanding that Superman is kind of a psycho that might turn on her, and also believing that a “woman’s place” is meant to be more manipulative. Like think of actual Wonder Woman as a paragon of an empowered woman and Injustice Wonder Woman as embracing the most obnoxious aspects of the conservative defintion of a woman in society. She believes that she can be most powerful by goading Superman into behavior, versus confronting him on these issues directly.
I've grown to really hate Injustice as a franchise because of what it popularized. The whole Evil Superman concept wasn't a new one but that franchise made it really popular to the point there are people that think that should be the canon Superman. No joke, back when I was working in a call centre, I was chatting with two of my co-workers who were into comics and games and I don't remember what led to it but the topic later became about Superman, those two were not fans of the character and said DC should make canon Superman more like his Injustice counterpart. Naturally being a Superman fan, that annoyed me.
I also hate how in the injustice universe EVERYONE lays a beating on Superman Also murdering teenagers? Fuck that And can we talk about the whole “killing a kid” with Billy? By the time it happens Billy would be like 17-18
My classmates always made fun of me for liking Superman, saying he was the worst hero ever and the most boring. Injustice only gave them more material to make fun of me.
If alfred can whip supermans ass with a pill shouldn't goku be able to. Since he is a far better and smarter fighter than alfred. Strong enough destroy an entire universe with his punches. Doesn't make sense
@@king_vision4085 that depends on iteration. Superman is not one character in one universe after all. One might be simply strong dude that can fly and shoot lasers from his eyes, but not immortal and can get hurt with stuff like strong explosives, the other can time travel, tank supernovas and lift literal infinities because the comic writers thought it would be funny.
The DC animated movies lost their luster a while ago ever since they stopped doing tight adaptations and started taking these huge liberties with the source material. Hush sucked. The Killing Joke sucked. Judas Contract wasn't the Judas Contract because they used a totally different cast of characters.
There are a few duds but I wouldn't necessarily say DC lost their luster years ago...Justice League Dark Apokolips was amazing, flashpoint was wonderful. I also enjoyed Death of Superman and Man of Tomorrow. I've never read the Hush comic so I can't compare it to the movie, but I did enjoy the movie. I just hated that they made Riddler Hush...
I get that an adaptation means the creative team doesn’t have to adapt a story 100% (I suppose), but you never want to be known as the worst version of a story.
@@Ikkey The problem is that Injustice isn't a good story. Superman becoming evil is a cliche unto itself. Batman doesn't offer any meaningful response beyond "killing is wrong." The conflict is between two extremes, one who wants superheroes to act like The Elite (villains who Superman fought against) and the other says "never kill ever" with nothing to back it up. If the writers wanted a memorable story they should have made Batman be a villain. And removed most of the killing.
@@Ikkey They really should've. I mean those guys understood how to turn a story that was condensed within more then one comic (Death in the family and Under the red hood) and was able to make a masterpiece.
There were two moments I wanted out of this movie, Alfred beat down and the entire lantern corp getting bodied. Should of been a 3 part movie honestly.
As someone who likes WW, I appreciated this version being somewhat true to the core of her character and turning against Superman, but the turn itself was a bit rushed. Still will take that over the absolute character disgrace that was Injustice Wonder Woman. But yeah, beyond that and the bit of reconcile between Dick and Damian, this story was a complete mess. Just felt weird they decided to cram all of this into one movie, and a short one at that.
yeah but I just dont see Wonder Woman ever supporting a world take over to begin with. I get her not holding Jokers death against superman but I see her wanting to continue business as usual not enforcing supermans will on the world. So if you are going to have her go dark might as well go all the way
"These are 2 Different Stories, But exactly the same thing" Me: I feel like that's DC in a nutshell. Every time I watch a DC media or read a comic by different writers, I chalk each one as a different universe in the multiverse. many have similarities, but also a lot of differences. I think the ending sums it up the best "We're Universe 1 and that's Universe 2" "No no no, We're Universe 1 and your Universe 9" should have only done things year at a time
The thing I truly liked however, was that the creators knew Plastic Man was beloved by many fans in the Injustice comics and gave him his time to shine
Tbh, we didn't need this adapted at all. The games we're basically a movie with mortal Kombat thrown in and we got an animated injustice in the form of both crisis on two earth's and the evil justic league in the animated show.
I mean if they tried to adapt the first five years of the Injustice comics accurately and with enough effort they could've made a killer animated series, probably just as good as Young Justice since the Injustice Comics are amazing. But all they wanted to do was make a weird Frankenstein's monster made from extremely butchered parts of the comic and the first game's story mode and the end result is atrocious, It's sad because Injustice has a lot of potential and this could've been a great project but they cared more about rushing a bad product they could sell straight to dvd than doing justice to Injustice (pun intended)
Say what you want about HQ but at least her redemption made sense in the comic. She had years to reflect and make real relationships outside of the Joker. You can say she didnt earn it but I'd argue that's WHY she is working for Bats. She is TRYING to earn that redemption and you can see her struggle with that when the Joker comes back into the picture. Yea Lex beat the hell out of the Joker and she had gone back to being the old Harley Quinn but afterwords was disgusted in herself for even considering it doing what she did and fully devoted her self to being a better person. Hell she even strapped Joker to a wall and beat him to within an inch of his life TWICE after that with the second time ending with the joker literally crawling to Batman and begging him to send him home. I fully believe that Batman wouldnt let her do half of what she does(go to the bat cave, know about and USE brother eye, know the secret plans etc) if he didnt actually believe in her.
I honestly thought Superman was either voiced by Tim Daly or his son who was the voice of him in the flashpoint paradox . Justin's performance was very close to theirs in regards to sound. Also thought he made a great green arrow in smallsville.
With Harley, the change in character is natural I feel. In the games and comics I mean. Without the Joker's influence, people like Batman and Catwoman could slowly talk her into a better place. Then if the Joker came back, she would ofc fall back into it somewhat, its like offering drugs to an addict who has only been clean for a few years. Then at the end of it all, she comes to a full realization that she doesn't need the joker with people talking her out of it again.
At least in the comics Nightwing didn't get killed by JUST getting a stick to the noggin but also cracking his neck on a rock....The way they did it in the movie from the clips made no sense tho....
@@kingrem3467 So getting hit in the head with a stick and dying makes more sense than falling and breaking his neck on a rock? Okay then, I see you’re just the result of letting idiots believe they’re smart and not telling them how dumb they are.
@@awesomusprime8611 getting hit in the head can be fatal. The right narrow tip, the right angle and velocity, the right pressure, any number of factors. A burst blood vessel in the brain. Lots of potential causes. Just as likely as the neck snap on the rubble. Paralysis, coma, death. All plausible outcomes. But the movie takes away the second part of the scenario. No neck snapping on debris. Which makes the kill less accidental manslaughter and more 2nd degree murder. Placing the blame more squarely on Damien's shoulders. It's an improvement over the source material. Don't go around insulting people.
@@orinanime The original death wasn’t great either but it was better than this for a reason that you mentioned. The original was an accident and that’s what it was meant to be. Damien never meant to kill Dick, and that’s the whole point of this. It makes it less of an accident and therefore weakens the story that is trying to be told. So the logic of the death is kind of even but the actual point of the story was lost in the movie. So the original is still better. I carry the mindset of “If you have nothing intelligent to say then keep your damn mouth shut.” If you don’t want to be called an idiot then don’t act like one, I’ve dealt with too many people that get all offended when they’re called a moron for saying and/or doing stupid things and I’m sick of it. If people stopped acting like a bunch of dumbasses then they wouldn’t be treated like it.
@@awesomusprime8611 calm down. Unclench. Nobody here was acting like a dumbass. It's an accident in both scenarios. But it's more undeniably Damien's fault in this version. Both narrative instances are flawed. But I prefer the way it's handled in the movie. To each their own.
I’m so tiered of how much DC is using Harleyand even Joker. I know they are important to story, but after seeing them in something like 17 films each(including the animated films) in the last five years ruined the characters for me, or at least made me fatigued...
Harley and Joker we're pivotal parts of the injustice storyline. Joker for causing the mess and Harley for her redemption and the way she assisted the rebellion. The issue is that Harley had none of the stuff that made it make sense why Bats let her so close. She just was there. Period. No real build up, earning of trust willing to die to help people and make amends. She was just there because she was in the game. No other reason
@@obsidianfrost9514 I know Joker was a must have for the beginning of the movie and I agree with everything you said about Harley. But The real reason that Harley annoyed me here was not her inclusion or even her bad portrayal or her connection to our heroes(which as you said, was really dumb), it is more because DC is milking the living shit out of her character. I really liked Harley since she was created in BTAS but even in the Arkham games series. And since then it only got worse. She was the main character in 3 out of 11 DCEU films, which is crazy to me how they used her more than Joker or even fricking Batman in their biggest franchise. Not to mention her 10+ appearances on DC animated films in the last 10 years(usually in a really big role) and her annoying tv series which for me, a person who watched every animated DC property in... Ever, was just to much!! They also milking the hell out of joker. DC live action appearances of Batman’s villains. Joker: 5 Harley: 3 Two Face: 2 Bane: 2(well, kinda) Scarecrow: 2(I won’t count is stupid part in TDKR) Penguin and Riddler: 1(soon to change!) Mr. Freeze, Poison Ivy, Killer Croc, Ras’ Al Goul had 1. It’s crazy to me and the overuse of Joker and especially Harley will make other people fatigued of those two also. By the way Joker is still one of my faves, just every time I see him it’s less impactful to me...
SIJW, you worded the fan's relationship with DC pretty well in the beginning. Just, some examples of DC's perfection, like the LiveAction shows that aren't part of the Berlantiverse.
One way to show Superman growing darkness in becoming a dictator is to have someone to temp him, but rather than character assassinate wonderwoman, have someone like Black Adam to help superman become this monster by enforcing his regime and have him kill a hero like Shazam but by the end, have Black Adam betray superman, so Adam can rule the earth. Basically replace Amazo plot line with Black Adam. I'm a black adam fan, but making him a villain here would really help the plot as it is in the injustice movie.
Consider that the "good" universe is the pre-New 52 one. That's my opinion, anyway. Yes, I know "Injustice" isn't New 52, but the game came out after New 52 did, so I see it as taking after the New 52's philosophy.
I understand why some people hate the "Trunks" look for superheroes (RUclipsr Degenerate Jay being one of them!) but I personally have never minded it. A lot of these characters have had better suits, don't get me wrong. Hell, I mean I even like Batman's Long Halloween outfit.
@@Pikashades Superman had trunks until 2011 when the New 52 started. Golden Age Superman had a slightly different emblem on his chest and possibly a different looking belt.
It feels to me like Warner Animation tried to cram too much stuff into a 1 hour and 30 minutes runtime, and it just didn't work. A story like Injustice deserves a lot more.
@@SandMan1998 When Batman said the Riddler was nothing more than a D-list loser villain I was legitimately caught off-guard. The guy is definitely an A-list of Batman Rogues. Maybe if it was the Cluemaster or Killer Moth, but saying the Riddler was a villain the other villains would be ashamed of working with thinking Hush wasn't him was stupid. They should have kept it Thomas Elliot.
Thank you for this, I haven't watched it yet due to how much they changed and yeah... injustice is my favorite story from D.C and I don't seeing me watching this any time soon.
I watched this a week ago. Never been more disappointed in an adaptation since The Killing Joke. The changes that they made to the original story really did not improve it or make it unique, apart from Plastic Man. Too many characters who played a big part in the original story of the game were unceremoniously killed off and I agree that the voice actor for Joker was not the best. So overall, not great, they didn't even use Christopher Drake and Dan Forden's wonderful music and main theme which I love to bits.
They should've made it a Trilogy to flesh out the story a little bit more, or a mini series I don't know, but adapting so much story in less than 90 minutes simply killed the movie
Vee, I have read the five "graphic novels" that actually proceed both games. Those are quite good, and I do consider myself a DC fan. I don't have a massive DC collection though. I was into Marvel more so in my youth(teens and 20"s) but as I got older and in to my 30's and now 40's) I 'm more into DC! Weird right? Well, you did a good review to an animated DC movie I have yet to see, because I would have to go out and buy it, assuming it is not on streaming services: Netflix, and Amazon Prime Video. So maybe I will buy it some day, just to be able to say I saw it. Justin Hartley as Superman, odd casting choice, and I know Kevin Conroy was cast as Batman though. Tim Daly or George Newbern wasn't availible? I like the points you brought up: Harley Quinn's voice casting of Gillian Jacobs trying to imitate Arleene Sorkin is not necessary, and Flash getting killed early on, is also bad.
Would totally live to see you tackle the comics and games there is so much story and characters that were left out of the games such as the green Lantern war and the red lantern war and yellow lantern superman
As a DC fan. I am extremely disappointed about how they went about things in this movie as well as the reactions from the death of each and every character. Batmans reaction to the death of Nightwing (Poor execution of how he dies) was the most accurate one to how someone would react when losing a loved one. Everyone else didn't seem to care about anything. SPECIALLY The Flash.
I think the multiverse being tacked on at the end is going to tie in to a running thread that links the other new dcau films into a multiversal battle, perhaps a convergence event
I don't wanna ever hear anyone say Jared Leto was the worst Joker ever again after this version, I find the voice he does disgusting and they should've gotten Richard Epcar to voice him
Leto is still by far the worst joker! A tiny little joke of a villain who wasn't intimidating in the least and don't even get me started on those ignorant tattoos. Joker would NEVER have the word damaged on him because he believes he's the only person not crazy.
@@flamingcoconuts8298 Jared leto wasn't bad you just don't like him Zack Snyder redeemed him.His tattoos weren't that bad but they shouldn't have put damaged on his head.He felt like a true boss of crime in Suicide squad that everyone feared simply because he was Psychotic.
@@hoodiek6802 Snyder didn’t do shit to redeem Leto. He just doesn’t have those stupid tattoos. But instead he just has strawberry jam smeared on his face instead of the iconic red smile, while still doing that stupid laugh and talking super slow nonsense. At this point we are never going to have a proper live action adaptation of the best version of our Uncle J. We’re never going to see a live action Joker like the many versions that Mark Hamill has voiced.
Here's one of the few good things I found from the movie: Joker's theme (or the music that plays the most whenever he's brought up). It's perfectly disturbing, scary, and cool.
Personally I liked it. I thought to myself “It’s about time Superman realized the error of his ways!”. My belief is that Superman can’t be evil. And even if he could, no self-respecting Superman fan would ever want to see him in that light
@@MrTREEHUNTER22 but the fact is there is only one thing going through my mind when I play these games: “When, Lord? When the hell is Superman gonna see that what he’s doing is wrong?!”
I thought what they did with Green Lantern in the original Injustice didn't make sense. Hal's the guy that narced on Sinestro to the guardians for doing the exact same thing Supes is doing. They even had Sinestro join up with Supes saying "yeah, this is just like what I tried to do with Korugar", and Hal is like "okay, I'm cool with that. Screw the guardians"
Yeah Hal's motivations for initially working with sinestro were pretty poor but i do like the way Sinestro essentially gives him no option but to put on the yellow ring for the first time. Either way I can forgive it just for how badass Yellow Lantern's design is. Really sucks that he was left out of the film since I was really hoping to see yellow hal in anything animated.
I remember turning to my bro and saying “that was the best DC animated film I’ve seen in a long time.” Then again, I don’t know the source material. Also, the ending felt a bit tacked on. Still, the whole thing felt good.
So it's like when they did "Death of Superman" the first time, Condensed 3 books into a 70 minute movie resulting in a mess. I don't see how it couldn't be 2+ movies like they did with other long adaptions. - DKR = 2 movies - Death & Return Of Superman (redo) = 2 movies - Long Halloween = 2 movies And as for Harley being there, She's there because she's Harley. DC feel the need to shove her in ANYTHING nowadays.
Fuck that😡Harley Quinn is nothing more than the Joker's pathetic girlfriend. The fact that the writers and the fanbase have overblown this annoying overrated overpowered character, every single one of you who supports this weak character can go fuck themselves👎
@@WillsonT011 yeah I’m pretty much tired of Harley. She’s so overrated and DC hypes get up more than any other DC female character. Wonder Woman and Catwoman and Batgirl and Supergirl and so on get barely half as much merch as Harley put together. It’s kind of an embarrassment that a character with little to contribute is put on such a high pedestal.
@@WillsonT011 in injustice she was the worst too. She’s responsible for destroying a city and Green Arrow and Black Canary act like she’s their best friend. I kinda wanted her to meet a grisly end for helping the Joker kill a whole city and murdered Lois and the baby since it’s pure evil behavior but Ollie and Dinah were enthralled by her manic pixie dream girl bullshit and kept her alive.
@@WillsonT011 Harley quinn is the kind of women, you wanna have one crazy one night stand, then regret it next day, but still enjoy it. Like how Deathshoot did in Attack on Arkham animated movie.
Anyone remember the Justice League Cartoon series that used to air back in the day , and The Original Teen Titans, man they were all Goated but now they fu*ked up the DC brand , it's actually sad
It was a total let down. They should've known this story could only be done by splitting it into multiple movies or a making a show to truly do it justice.
Here are my main 5 complaints. I know no one asked but I need to vent whenever I think about this movie. 1. Flash's death (like actually, wtf???) 2. Green arrows death (completely removed all the importance of Superman's first step too far.) 3. I agree, Joker was just too wrongly done. 4. The fact nightwing died just from the head trauma alone. I know irl it happens but they should have kept his neck breaking in. 5. The fact that they got rid of the green lanterns, the lantern war was probably my favourite event from the comic and showed how far Superman had gone and how he was no longer holding back. I mean he killed a fkn planet. I have more than 5 but I'm done venting. Thank you.
so tired of Harley being constantly pushed in our face these days. she was great as a background sidekick in the 90s, she was my favorite.. now i just can't stand her in any iteration.
I just wish they'd stop writing her as so stupid and leaving out the fact she has a fucking PHD. She's ditzy, not a moron. Like, make her a lesbian. That's fine. Change her outfit. Fine. Break up w joker?? Great!! But her core character traits seem gone.
I find it mostly comes down to if she's the focus of the story. She's wonderful in the birds of prey movie and harley quinn show. But here and the injustice source material she's just sort of tacked on to sell. When tacked she's written to be Joker's sidekick even when he's not in the story. She constantly references Joker and makes one liners while letting others get all the glory or character arcs. Whereas other stories explore her as a character.
Personally I like Amazo’s look in the Justice League. It’s simple and it makes him look like a classic metropolis style robot and I mean like the Metropolis movie from 1920s kinda vibes. I mean it’s better than looking like a robo mariner.
I remember plastic man not being to prominent in the comics, probably cuz he'd solve most of their problems. Man is a legend.
He and his son had an excellent issue in year 4.
@@novsmith4547 oh no I'm gonna die nah jokes this shits easy
Well plastic man can only be killed by one thing, frozen and shattered. It’s his only weakness and way to kill him. His comic version is practically DCs version of well Deadpool. A funny man who is seen more as a joke, but unlike mr.pool, Plastic mans jokey battle style of never being serious doesn’t work as much… but like Deadpool if serious he has the potential to rival the greatest hero’s in terms of strength (he can rival Superman in terms of power if Superman couldn’t freeze him that is, Deadpool meanwhile was able to murder the entire marvel universe once)
@@rontheauraknight9606 Actually he doesn't even IF he's frozen and shattered. He has to be kept that way if they don't want him coming back. The dude is basically invincible AND immortal. A powerhouse.
his shinning moment in the comic was sacrficing himself to help the green lantern corps escape from superman's prison and get them their rings back. they substituted to just breaking out 1 man and him still not doing much
The cutscenes in the Injustice games are basically the Injustice movie.
I want a TV show animated in the same way as the game cut scenes that covers every year of the comics
1 season = one year
@ZernoHD you mean story mode
@ZernoHD dk man. I liked how Superman and Batman was forced to work together against Brainiac. Also Injustice 2 storyline better fleshed out the side characters
@ZernoHD What complicated things? At worst it was just a basic story that didnt evolve much.
@ZernoHD i thought it was awesome and built upon what came before and fleshed it out.
The split second they killed off Flash, I knew this was a failure.
Did you like the flash in the games?
@@Courier_333 absolutely! Him standing up to Superman in injustice 2 at the end was one of my favorite moments from the series.
Seems like they killed off the Flash to give Plastic Man and Mr. Terrific more screen time. Like instead of Flash playing chess against Superman, it was Mr. Terrific playing chess against Superman.
@@johnolplays3288 bruh watch the cw shows if you want to see those characters
@@johnolplays3288 I caught on to that quick. Like really? What was the point of killing Flash and replacing him with Mr. Terrific and Plastic Man?
DC must really hate Nightwing, because he’s always being beat up by everyone around him.
Nightwing deserves so much better
Dc does hate nightwing because in all of the animated movies he's been in he usually gets beat the fuck up
@@savannahwalz9974 he got hit in the head and died in the Injustice movie. That’s was just actually pathetic
Ikr. Nightwing is such a potential for rivaling Marvel's Spiderman but DC holds no clue in developing him
@@thehighground7926 Fr. At least in the comic it made a bit more sense. Falling on a rock and breaking your neck isn’t the most outlandish way to die
@@thehighground7926 and even worse is it was thrown by an angsty emo brat. And my biggest gripe is Nightwing wouldn't die like that when he was Robin he'd go toe to toe with foes like Grundy, Crock and Bane
I thought nightwings death was intense in the comic. I found it very interesting and it shows how amazing the bat family is because they are mortal and can die easily. They aren't God's. And the only reason he died was because he was attacked by someone in his family and was caught off guard. I thought it was heart-breaking. That's just my take on it though
The mighty nightwing, the protector of Bloodhaven and the first to be taught by batman... Dies cause he was hit in the head to strong, because a spoilt angsty brat threw it
I liked it too, it felt like it was supposed to be unceremonious to show that they are just people. And the way it was given a bigger reaction in the comic, we see not just batman grieve but also damien.
I agree Nightwings death, certainly had it’s build up and build off.
@@finalmountain In my opinion, it's very stupid.
The action replay on the impact was hilarious 🤣
Vee: "Why Didn't I liked Injustice"
Me: _"Because the scene Alfred beating the tar out of Superman is not on the movie, isn't it?"_
I wanted to see zasz cut up cringefred.
@@OmniDan26 bro you post the dumbest comments
@@tiktokwatcher thats the very first comment ive seen of his and i already agree he is the dumbest
Its also cuz he wasn't in the movie at all.
Me: IT BETTER BE BECAUSE FLASH DIED IN 2 SECONDS INTO THE PLOT, AND IT HAPPENED BECAUSE HE COULD'VE STOPPED THE ENTIRE PLOT FROM CONTINUING!
The thing I hated the most was them leaving Black Canary out of this. She’s an integral character in the story and I don’t understand why they left her out. The story felt rushed and weird, including the death of Flash. The only part I liked was when Catwoman comforted Batman after Dick’s death, but that’s just straight from the comics.
It's a DC animation, ie it's going to stay below 90 mins for its intended audience. I guess they prioritised storylines and it didn't make the cut
@Lujack Shaw lol true
@Lujack Shaw I think she helps drive down how far Superman has fallen after he kills Arrow
Actually, as someone who has also read all the comics, she helps in the downfall of Superman by videotaping him and showing to the world how corrupted he had become. She also gives us an interesting perspective on the story after Ollie dies, so… I think she did a little more than nothing. But if that’s your opinion, that’s totally okay. Have a nice day!
@Lujack Shaw she comes back in Injustice 2
The only scene I liked was when batman finally let himself fall apart because catwoman said it was ok she'd be there to hold him together
It was 30 seconds long and I was tearing up bro not a drill, literally the only time I think I've ever seen Batman break down like that and it was beautiful
AGREED!!!! I was saying that as I watched it a couple nights ago, the only worthwhile moment wan'teven a minite long
I oddly loved how they used Plastic Man in this. I know it doesn't really work in context, but he's the only character to actually make me laugh and his voice acting isn't god-awful
@@shrimpfriedstudios LIKE HARLEY FUCKIN QUINN SOUNDS SO BAD
@@ssjdeadpool AND THE FACT THAT YOU *KNEW* I WAS REFERRING TO HOW GILLIAN JACOBS BRITTAD HARLEY QUINN IS EXACTLY HOW BAD SHE DOES IN IT. GILLIAN JACOBS IS A GREAT ACTRESS. HARLEY QUINN IS A RELATIVELY YOUNG CHARACTER. LET GILLIAN GIVE HER A NEW TAKE INSTEAD OF AN IMPERSONATION OF AN IMPERSONATION OF AN IMPERSONATION
"When it comes to evil Superman, they went red kryptonite...when they should have went Brightburn."
Jesus, that's a fantastic line. Perfectly succinct.
The pacing was so terribly fast that it felt like the whole movie happened in one day
I think it did
Injustice: They ruined my adaptation
Killing joke: First time, huh?
At least the biggest problem of The Killing Joke was a shitty first half about Batgirl and Batsex. The second half was true to the comic.
Injustice just botched up everything.
@@OverLorD768 yeah you can skip forward and enjoy The Killing Joke
@@OverLorD768 Yup.
@@OverLorD768 I mean, kinda? The killing joke part feels more like a cheap copy with no real feeling, but it's true Injustice is just a mess compared to it
The only problem with killing joke is the first 30 mins. Skip that and it's a pretty faithful adaptation
"The Man of no Tomorrow." Chilling wordplay of an evil Superman.
I've never heard that title until this video. It's catchy.
@@Brotherofthe4thCompany I noticed that myself and was enjoying the nod to both styles. It was also a lot better to tell them apart than what the game did. I didn't have any trouble keeping track of which one was player one and which was player two.
yeah that title, even by itself goes hard, but given that its based on evil superman makes it extra hard.
It wasn't terrible but Injustice is too big for one movie. Would make a great 8 part OVA series
Yes, also shouldn't change any details of the original one you know
It was terrible even if we ignore the source material. I'm sorry but it was. I can go on in more details but most already did (hint: flash is one of the complaints).
I'm a huge injustice "fan" (that recognizes injustice is far from perfect) but this adaptation was awful if you consider the source material and mediocre at best if you consider its own thing
You're only saying that because you're too married to the orginal story, this film was fine as it's own thing.
@@righteousrawb7225 now you are going to say the killing joke movie was good
Injustice : The Abridged Movie.
Didn’t even watch the movie yet, but the thing that annoys me the most up front, is the fact that there are multiple universes like in the games, with good and bad versions of characters fighting each other. This was cool for a fighting game (alternate costumes / interesting match ups) but feels jarring in a movie. Some people might prefer this because it’s more accurate to the source material, but imho this multiverse stuff is ruining als the tension and immersion. Because you just know that nothing matters in the bad universe and that everything is fine at the "real" one. If I wanted the same story, I could just go with the games. What I hoped for was them focusing on this one timeline and making it all play out within this universe. Could have been really cool.
I gotta disagree about Joker's VA. It could be the script or even the voice director's fault. The choice of dialogue is usually not left up to the VA and can make even great VAs underperform.
The choice growl everything was likely him though
I just hate how high and growly joker's voice is, honestly it's kinda hard to listen to joker's voice here because of how high and growly it is
The worst thing about this movie was how they showed superman's transition . In the comics it takes 4 years for him to become the evil tyrant but here he just instantly becomes one within only mere months .
1.Wonder woman is the one who starts pushing him to the dark side and begins his transition.
2. Sinestro is the main reason to corrupt superman his morals , his belief that get poisoned by sinestro's involvement. This is where superman starts losing control.
3. 'The man who lost everything' is a very important arc in year 3 that leaves a deep scar in his psyche even more . Giving him back what he had lost , showing him what could have been and just taking it away.
Honestly i think the movie should have adapted only a few issues from year 1 Till batman and his team invades the fotress of solitude and he gets his hands on the pills and cutting away to build up the hype that now batman can go toe to toe with superman. This would have led to more people joining in and led to a whole new series just imagine How good it would have been for Dc.
@Lujack Shaw ww sucked in the comics. She had no arc and was just an asshole. You don't have to make her completely righteous (which this movie didn't do) but don't make her a completely unlikable jerk.
Injustice WW is hated even by fans of the comics and games since she written as an awful person with nothing in common with her mainstream counterpart. Superman doesn't feel like he was ever a hero in Injustice but at least he had a reason given for becoming a villain. WW just is evil.
@Lujack Shaw Or here's a thought. Maybe they didn't want to portray her like that... because it's completely out-of-character?
The writer of the Injustice comics himself (Tom Taylor) has stated multiple times that he's not a fan of the way he wrote her in the comic series. He stated that for the sake of the plot, he basically had to convince himself that he was writing an entirely different character. *And it showed* . The Diana in the Injustice comics acted nothing like Wonder Woman.... she was practically unrecognizable. And from a CHARACTER standpoint, that's just poor writing.
Trust me, if the Injustice comics depicted Batman as a complete murdering lunatic who gave up his entire moral compass to scamper around for some random woman's attention, people would be PISSED. Because it's just unbelievably out-of-character. And well, that's exactly what they did to Wonder Woman. So the movie at least TRIED to give her a more believable arc near the end, as rushed as it was. Not saying it was perfect, but it was at least a step up from the comics.
At the end of the day, it had nothing to do with 'perfect female depictions' or media reception, and everything to do with knowing the character. The real Diana would never do the crap she did in those comics. And the writer himself would affirm that.
Don’t know what the fuck they were thinking. A series would have been better because it gives MORE TIME to have the story develop. A movie is too fast and at max, a two hour movie can be exhausting. A series helps cover more content during all the years of injustice. Series can also give spotlight to other character development besides batman and Superman.
@@HarveyDent13 yup
The moment Martian Manhunter was missing, I knew something was gonna be off. "You never trusted me. Two aliens and you followed the one that looked like you" is an iconic fan loved moment in the Injustice Series that really highlighted how personal biases have influenced if not corrupted the minds of the heroes. Add in the fact there is no Shazam death, Barry gets killed immediately, and we don't see Alfred beat down Superman. The iconic energy that made the series great is severely missing.
Martians are cringe.
@@OmniDan26 Says the guy with the murderer as his pfp lol
Omni Guy bro you are replying unstoppably on peoples comments and all of them have cringe in it like stfu
@@OmniDan26
What's cringe is making that account and posting what you do for attention. We get it. You want to rile people up because you love the attention whether it's good or bad. That's a sad and cringe filled life to live man.
If Injustice was animated as a show it would’ve blown up bigger than Invincible, given tons of animators new jobs, and potentially gain back some popularity from Marvel
Yeah, they tried to overstuff all the story in one film. Should have been a miniseries.
Invincible is a much better comic than Injustice and it’s not even close.
@@Akaya7777 up until a certain part in the comics I would agree
@@Akaya7777 yep. Injustice is literally an edgefest. No offense to the people who liked it, I just can't get into it.
@@immentallyhandicapped2903 they jump the shark waay too much. i get that it's a different universe and all, but the characters do such horrific things that it makes no sense that they started out similar to the characters we know which kind of defeats the purpose of the story imo. like i could buy that superman decides to become essentially a dictator after what joker did to him, but once he starts killing his former friends that's pushing it too far. at that point the story no longer is "superman experienced something horrible which made him turn into a dictator" but "a completely different version of superman becomes evil". and some of the other heroes act so out of character that they essentially are just completely different characters
It had so much potential, They would've just made the "Year" thing like in the comics. Its better and they could have introduced the first animated cliffhangers in the history of animated movies
As someone who didn't play the games and only read injustice 1 and 2, I thoroughly enjoyed this movie and was attached to it from start to stop, I only wish it wasn't all condensed and they made room(there still is) for future movies in this timeline
yeah I thought the first hour was pretty good really. I just think they shouldn't have ended it in one movie. Instead ending with a small victory for the bat team and with public opinion turning totally against superman. Then the next movie could be about beating him.
Being a dc fan is like being in a toxic relation ship right now.
WB is that girl
I feel bad for you my guy, seriously. You'd think that they'd get their shit together after I'm not starfire
Being a fan of anything. Star Wars, marvel, games, Harry Potter etc
@Chantip Chea Do I look like the blue haired landwhales running the company?
@@darthdarth4297 atleast they finished HP saga, Snyderverse on the other hand...
The disrespect to flash in the movie was disgusting. Flash had a huge part in the games and comics. But...in the movie he died like a dummy, and no one seemed to cared. As s huge flash fan..I was disappointed
Agreed. It was like Iceman being killed twice in Days of Future Past
He was not only a big character but he also has the best fight scene in the second game… but they just disrespect him
No awesome chess scene with superman, instead of just some random nobody like Mr Terrific
It seems like he was just like, “well I guess I’ll die”
@@guilhermehank4938 Oh that's who that was. Never heard of him.
The Joker's voice is so deep, it almost sounds likes he's trying to portray Killer Croc
The only joker I can approve of that Had a deep voice was John DiMaggio's. That dude nailed it
Yeah
And also -when Lois and joker were killed..superman and Harley Quinn didn't seem that broken from it😂 as if it wasn't their first
To me, it seems like the Joker has a split personality. Just about every time that speaks, he starts off as the Joker personality, then halfway through, his "movie" Pennywise personality takes over and finishes the dialogue. It seems like whoever's in charge of the movie couldn't decide which clown is the more evil one out of the two, so they ended up combining the two, resulting in the character being nothing but an awful joke instead of being the Joker.
@@puffpuffpassmako mark hamil and john DiMaggio other joker actors are garbage
his voice was deep because he smokes alot of Newports 😂😂😂😂😂
Jokers voice reminds me of Star Scream’s voice in Transformers: Prime. It sounds cunning, and deceptive, but definitely lacks intimidation and that iconic Joker sarcasm.
Personally he reminds me of venom
I mean, they crammed all that shit into an hour and a half movie, can't expect anything else than bad.
During my call center days, I worked in the back section of a mall. On the other side of the mall was one of the few comic book stores in town. I remember having every issue of Injustice waiting for me in my pull box and it was always an exciting feeling to head over there either on lunch or after I clocked out to get my orders.
Injustice Years 1-5 was the first full series I bought from start to finish as it was released (before Injustice Ground Zero, Injustice 2 and all the other crossover comics and spinoff stories). So, trust and believe watching this movie was as disgraceful to any Injustice fan (one who knows the source material; both games and comics) as Nightwing dying by falling onto a rock...
The way DC freaked up this film despite ALL OF THE SOURCE MATERIAL TO PULL FROM is as bad as the live action films being trash when they have a nearly INFINITE catalogue of source material to pull from! When they announced the movie I was excited because I thought it would be the start of a series of movies! Maybe a movie per year of the comics or something. Year 2 was probably my favorite because of the Green vs. Yellow Lantern War...oh yeah...was I letdown...
Night wing died by falling on a rock in the comics if I remember right so are you saying they should have had him die a different way
@@ToMtRoOpEr05 you're 100% correct. He got hit in the head by the baton, stumbled and his neck hit the rock resulting in his death. I'm not saying it had to be a gruesome death (trust me Injustice has more than enough of those), but his death should've been a bit more meaningful. Heck, the biggest thing to happen from his death was the massive rift between Bruce and Damian.
@@OurKindofEntertainment that's not true, although it seemed like his death went nowhere at first he ended up being choosen by deadman himself to take the title of deadman. this part was half assed and barley explained in the movie, but basically deadman had to choose someone to take the title of deadman and he deemed nightwing the most worthy. he would have still been dead if deadman didnt pick him.
@@tactical-funky9565, spoiler
DEADman... is dead.
Don't forget Green Lantern Lobo.
Wouldn't it be better if this was a show than a movie.
Several movies at the very least
Yes, either a movie per year or a series
Or a tv show showing each seasons.
Don't know why everyone's mad the whole name is *Injustice* so it would be fair to make the movie and *INJUSTICE* To the original
If was a show, that would be great. It wasnt terrible (like Rob Zombie's Halloween 1 and 2) but I do understand why it wasnt totally like the game but the should have done more directed to the game as a 2 partier movie than push it all into one.
What makes Barry's death worse in the film is he was voiced by Yuri Lowenthal and even more? They had him voice 3 additional roles. Mirror Master, Shazam and The Atom. It's as if they didn't want to pay him additional money for 4 roles so they killed Flash..... AN IMPORTANT CHARACTER IN INJUSTICE KILLED FOR THE SAKE OF DOING IT!
I reckon they killed him off because his story arc was too long to fit in the movie
@@TheKillingJoker1980 It.....really wouldn't surprise me if that is the case
@@SetoShadowVT Barry's arc would have been a two hour movie on its own if u think about it
they could've just removed the atom.
This movie would've been good if I didn't know how much better it could've been.
It could've done the games and graphic novels proper justice as a proper series
The voice actor for Joker sounds like he was trying to do an impersonation of Pennywise
I know it was probably unintentional since the anime isn't super well known kn the US, but when he sounded like he was inspired by the character Jake Martinez. I swear to god, the way he said "It will be the best joke ever" it was said in the same way Jake said a very similar line. For extra coincidence points, Jake was obviously inspired by the Joker, so this Joker is basically an inferior imitation of a character who was inspired BY the character he was doing an inferior imitation of.
Omg I never noticed that until now
"I guess daddy issues and short shorts sell"
local strip clubs: Can confirm.
Yep, apparently it sells. I saw at least 5 people dressed like that version while I was handing out candies earlier.
@@shawn092182 I was never really a fan of the face paints but it's annoying how little they try to innovate with harley quinn
Alfred headbutting the fuck out of Supes never gets old.
Zasz cutting up cringefred never gets old.
That will be the one of the greatest moments of injustice
*Harley Quinn:* "You ain't so tough, Superman."
*Superman:* "What gives you that idea?"
*Harley Quinn:* "Alfred knocked your freakin' ass out!"
@@OmniDan26 Nah, wtf? You talking about Alfred like that?
"It's as as easy as beating a puppy to death... With a kitten"
Sad part is, this line could've been done so well by another Joker VA
I've always thought Kefka's VA from Dissidia would make a good Joker.
Yeah not the greatest VA, kinda feel they thought it was such a short part anyone would do and ruined a few good lines because of it
Why did he say kitten instead of crowbar? Which actually would have gotten under Batman’s skin.
No. This line was garbage.
@@orinanime that's called an opinion. U do get that don't u??
Lol raising the Contrast when you said "there's a lot more to contrast" was perfect.
The thing that bummed me out the most about Flash's early death was that we were completely robbed of that moment in the comics where he runs down the longest road in Australia to clear his head and starts throwing up when he sees roadkill that reminded him of a kid the Regime beat the crap out of for no reason.
Couldn't help but notice that they changed Nightwing's death ever so slightly.
In the comics as he falls he bashes his neck directly into some broken rubble while knocked out which is what broke his neck but in the movie he just kinda lands on the floor after the initial strike to the head. So in one instance it's more of an accident while in the other the blame is pretty much entirely on Robin.
That and the pole hitting him looked like it would just leave a bruise. Him dying from the hit is kinda crazy.
Yeah. Ones manslaughter, the other bumps up to 2nd and maybe even 1st degree murder if you have a decent lawyer.
In all fairness his death in the comics was just as lame as it was in this film
@@ebonkinght it is but the fact the movie removes the rubble makes it seems like Damian threw the stick with enough force with the intent to kill.
@@JohnWilliams-wl9px Good point!
Poor Flash, he is one of the best characters from the comic.
Them killing him is a joke
Yeah but his whole story arc would have took the whole movie time up. There's a reason comics are always better
I'm honestly very disappointed they switched him out during the chess scene. It's probably one of my favorite sections of the entire series
Imagine if all the years of injustice 1 were made into seasons. Year three with Constantine would get me hyped af.
The Joker sounds like he tried tried doing a Hamil/Leader voice but failed miserably. I don’t even understand why he even looks the way he does
My entire reaction was during this shit show,
"Look how they massacred my boy."
Wonder Woman is such an interesting case in Injustice. She’s a hard sell, like it took me years to believe that characterization and sometimes it still makes me scoff. But she’s so pivotal to the story that the fact that it was walked back on at all made me roll my eyes. I think everyone knew they wanted evil Superman, and evil Wonder Woman wound up being this interesting, if flawed surprise.
Yeah, I was very interested in Wonder Woman in the series because it was kinda way off base but I was like "Well ok, at least they are sticking to it!" and I remember her kicking Supes ass a few times here and there in the series. I recall getting into endless arguments with people calling her a bitch and this and that, but I was like "Oh...well why is an Evil Wonder Woman a harder sell than a Superman that just killed a teenager?" Now since they walked her entire character back and Supes relationship with her... I'm sorta like what's the point? If you're gonna go evil just commit to it.
I disagree. You have to understand that a gigantic part of Wonder Woman’s characterization is predicated on her relationship with the heroic Steve Trevor. In Injustice, Steve Trevor is actually a Nazi spy that manipulated and tricked the Amazons. It basically completely flips her initial impression of man’s world.
Interesting? Injustice Wonder Woman is absolute character assassination. It is a betrayal of everything she is about, and her reasons for being such are rather weak. She isn't even a captivating villain, just a slutty bitch.
@@FriedChckn13 I'm kinda tired of Wonder Woman being boring as hell in alternate versions of reality where she's supposed to be bad. If Superman can cut loose why can't Diana? Why is it ok to have a Batman who Laughs but Wonder Woman is too previous to be a villain? I kinda like the premise because it's very rarely done and she's always given a way out of her evil in one way or another in most evil versions of herself. They either go too far or not far enough. Like imagine all the cool crap you could give Diana, you could go all Kratos Goddess of War with her and use that greek historic badassery to its fullest peak.
I kinda get that dudes are easier to sell as absolute monsters but it's been done so many times. Although whether you agree with me or not I definitely don't think they did a good job here with her. I kinda rolled my eyes when she said _"Your will be done.."_ XD, that line felt like it was ripped from some hyper-sexualized fanfic.
@@Unworshipediety It’s a combination of Wonder Woman understanding that Superman is kind of a psycho that might turn on her, and also believing that a “woman’s place” is meant to be more manipulative. Like think of actual Wonder Woman as a paragon of an empowered woman and Injustice Wonder Woman as embracing the most obnoxious aspects of the conservative defintion of a woman in society. She believes that she can be most powerful by goading Superman into behavior, versus confronting him on these issues directly.
I've grown to really hate Injustice as a franchise because of what it popularized. The whole Evil Superman concept wasn't a new one but that franchise made it really popular to the point there are people that think that should be the canon Superman. No joke, back when I was working in a call centre, I was chatting with two of my co-workers who were into comics and games and I don't remember what led to it but the topic later became about Superman, those two were not fans of the character and said DC should make canon Superman more like his Injustice counterpart. Naturally being a Superman fan, that annoyed me.
I also hate how in the injustice universe EVERYONE lays a beating on Superman
Also murdering teenagers? Fuck that
And can we talk about the whole “killing a kid” with Billy? By the time it happens Billy would be like 17-18
@@steve_en5903billy wasn’t a legal adult yet I’m pretty sure and still killing a teen should be naturally frowned upon
My classmates always made fun of me for liking Superman, saying he was the worst hero ever and the most boring. Injustice only gave them more material to make fun of me.
me 2 glad the movie was thrash, good riddance.
Yea I'm getting tired of the whole evil Superman thing, it's just spitting in the face of the best of the best at this point 8).
No Alfred beating the crap out of Superman, it was right there and they threw it away.
Wait that doesn't play out in the animated movie 🙁?
I haven't seen it yet
It would've needed a whole plotline to set it up, one that this movie doesn't have the runtime for.
They never introduced the pills so the scene wouldn't make sense. But I was still mad that he was cut entirely from the film.
If alfred can whip supermans ass with a pill shouldn't goku be able to. Since he is a far better and smarter fighter than alfred. Strong enough destroy an entire universe with his punches. Doesn't make sense
@@king_vision4085 that depends on iteration. Superman is not one character in one universe after all. One might be simply strong dude that can fly and shoot lasers from his eyes, but not immortal and can get hurt with stuff like strong explosives, the other can time travel, tank supernovas and lift literal infinities because the comic writers thought it would be funny.
Also, I feel they were going for a mix between classic Joker and Heath Ledger's Joker with this design.
The DC animated movies lost their luster a while ago ever since they stopped doing tight adaptations and started taking these huge liberties with the source material. Hush sucked. The Killing Joke sucked. Judas Contract wasn't the Judas Contract because they used a totally different cast of characters.
There are a few duds but I wouldn't necessarily say DC lost their luster years ago...Justice League Dark Apokolips was amazing, flashpoint was wonderful. I also enjoyed Death of Superman and Man of Tomorrow. I've never read the Hush comic so I can't compare it to the movie, but I did enjoy the movie. I just hated that they made Riddler Hush...
They started falling off when Dwayne died.
@@racpatrice I also lived the long Halloween.
I get that an adaptation means the creative team doesn’t have to adapt a story 100% (I suppose), but you never want to be known as the worst version of a story.
Really should've got the dudes who did Under the Red Hood to write this movie.
There's only 3 versions lol
Hi, Just Some Guy with a Mustache.
@@Ikkey The problem is that Injustice isn't a good story. Superman becoming evil is a cliche unto itself. Batman doesn't offer any meaningful response beyond "killing is wrong." The conflict is between two extremes, one who wants superheroes to act like The Elite (villains who Superman fought against) and the other says "never kill ever" with nothing to back it up.
If the writers wanted a memorable story they should have made Batman be a villain. And removed most of the killing.
@@Ikkey They really should've. I mean those guys understood how to turn a story that was condensed within more then one comic (Death in the family and Under the red hood) and was able to make a masterpiece.
There were two moments I wanted out of this movie, Alfred beat down and the entire lantern corp getting bodied. Should of been a 3 part movie honestly.
Yeah i wanted to see alfred get cut up by zasz too.
Would have preferred a series Tbh
Should've been a show instead. If they 0layed their cards right, this could've been as big as Invincible.
As someone who likes WW, I appreciated this version being somewhat true to the core of her character and turning against Superman, but the turn itself was a bit rushed. Still will take that over the absolute character disgrace that was Injustice Wonder Woman.
But yeah, beyond that and the bit of reconcile between Dick and Damian, this story was a complete mess. Just felt weird they decided to cram all of this into one movie, and a short one at that.
she's better than the injustice game/comic one (which isn't hard since the comic was a ass) but still rushed and needed more time to develope.
WW has always been a piece of shit, as far back as when she was created. A high strung, man hating, brute.
Wonder woman really deserved better treatment than what she had in both the comics and the game... And so did Dick
yeah but I just dont see Wonder Woman ever supporting a world take over to begin with. I get her not holding Jokers death against superman but I see her wanting to continue business as usual not enforcing supermans will on the world. So if you are going to have her go dark might as well go all the way
"These are 2 Different Stories, But exactly the same thing"
Me: I feel like that's DC in a nutshell. Every time I watch a DC media or read a comic by different writers, I chalk each one as a different universe in the multiverse. many have similarities, but also a lot of differences. I think the ending sums it up the best
"We're Universe 1 and that's Universe 2"
"No no no, We're Universe 1 and your Universe 9"
should have only done things year at a time
The fact that your a d.c fan im with you a hundred percent I always told ppl d.c was the rated r version of marvel
The thing I truly liked however, was that the creators knew Plastic Man was beloved by many fans in the Injustice comics and gave him his time to shine
Tbh, we didn't need this adapted at all. The games we're basically a movie with mortal Kombat thrown in and we got an animated injustice in the form of both crisis on two earth's and the evil justic league in the animated show.
I have been saying this ever since the movie got announced. I'm happy more people share this opinion
Yes!!!! I watched both injustice gods among us and injustice 2 custscenes as movies twice lol
I mean if they tried to adapt the first five years of the Injustice comics accurately and with enough effort they could've made a killer animated series, probably just as good as Young Justice since the Injustice Comics are amazing. But all they wanted to do was make a weird Frankenstein's monster made from extremely butchered parts of the comic and the first game's story mode and the end result is atrocious, It's sad because Injustice has a lot of potential and this could've been a great project but they cared more about rushing a bad product they could sell straight to dvd than doing justice to Injustice (pun intended)
I love how Harley gets away with everything
Again...
Say what you want about HQ but at least her redemption made sense in the comic. She had years to reflect and make real relationships outside of the Joker. You can say she didnt earn it but I'd argue that's WHY she is working for Bats. She is TRYING to earn that redemption and you can see her struggle with that when the Joker comes back into the picture. Yea Lex beat the hell out of the Joker and she had gone back to being the old Harley Quinn but afterwords was disgusted in herself for even considering it doing what she did and fully devoted her self to being a better person. Hell she even strapped Joker to a wall and beat him to within an inch of his life TWICE after that with the second time ending with the joker literally crawling to Batman and begging him to send him home. I fully believe that Batman wouldnt let her do half of what she does(go to the bat cave, know about and USE brother eye, know the secret plans etc) if he didnt actually believe in her.
Still doesn’t make up for helping killing millions she deserves to sit in jail.
I honestly thought Superman was either voiced by Tim Daly or his son who was the voice of him in the flashpoint paradox .
Justin's performance was very close to theirs in regards to sound.
Also thought he made a great green arrow in smallsville.
With Harley, the change in character is natural I feel. In the games and comics I mean. Without the Joker's influence, people like Batman and Catwoman could slowly talk her into a better place. Then if the Joker came back, she would ofc fall back into it somewhat, its like offering drugs to an addict who has only been clean for a few years. Then at the end of it all, she comes to a full realization that she doesn't need the joker with people talking her out of it again.
At least in the comics Nightwing didn't get killed by JUST getting a stick to the noggin but also cracking his neck on a rock....The way they did it in the movie from the clips made no sense tho....
@ArtBuffalo the movie did it better tf a rock killing Nightwing is so dumb at least here it’s reasonable somewhat
@@kingrem3467 So getting hit in the head with a stick and dying makes more sense than falling and breaking his neck on a rock? Okay then, I see you’re just the result of letting idiots believe they’re smart and not telling them how dumb they are.
@@awesomusprime8611 getting hit in the head can be fatal. The right narrow tip, the right angle and velocity, the right pressure, any number of factors. A burst blood vessel in the brain. Lots of potential causes.
Just as likely as the neck snap on the rubble.
Paralysis, coma, death. All plausible outcomes.
But the movie takes away the second part of the scenario. No neck snapping on debris. Which makes the kill less accidental manslaughter and more 2nd degree murder. Placing the blame more squarely on Damien's shoulders.
It's an improvement over the source material.
Don't go around insulting people.
@@orinanime The original death wasn’t great either but it was better than this for a reason that you mentioned. The original was an accident and that’s what it was meant to be. Damien never meant to kill Dick, and that’s the whole point of this. It makes it less of an accident and therefore weakens the story that is trying to be told. So the logic of the death is kind of even but the actual point of the story was lost in the movie. So the original is still better. I carry the mindset of “If you have nothing intelligent to say then keep your damn mouth shut.” If you don’t want to be called an idiot then don’t act like one, I’ve dealt with too many people that get all offended when they’re called a moron for saying and/or doing stupid things and I’m sick of it. If people stopped acting like a bunch of dumbasses then they wouldn’t be treated like it.
@@awesomusprime8611 calm down. Unclench. Nobody here was acting like a dumbass.
It's an accident in both scenarios.
But it's more undeniably Damien's fault in this version.
Both narrative instances are flawed.
But I prefer the way it's handled in the movie.
To each their own.
I’m so tiered of how much DC is using Harleyand even Joker. I know they are important to story, but after seeing them in something like 17 films each(including the animated films) in the last five years ruined the characters for me, or at least made me fatigued...
Harley and Joker we're pivotal parts of the injustice storyline. Joker for causing the mess and Harley for her redemption and the way she assisted the rebellion. The issue is that Harley had none of the stuff that made it make sense why Bats let her so close. She just was there. Period. No real build up, earning of trust willing to die to help people and make amends. She was just there because she was in the game. No other reason
@@obsidianfrost9514 I know Joker was a must have for the beginning of the movie and I agree with everything you said about Harley. But The real reason that Harley annoyed me here was not her inclusion or even her bad portrayal or her connection to our heroes(which as you said, was really dumb), it is more because DC is milking the living shit out of her character. I really liked Harley since she was created in BTAS but even in the Arkham games series. And since then it only got worse. She was the main character in 3 out of 11 DCEU films, which is crazy to me how they used her more than Joker or even fricking Batman in their biggest franchise. Not to mention her 10+ appearances on DC animated films in the last 10 years(usually in a really big role) and her annoying tv series which for me, a person who watched every animated DC property in... Ever, was just to much!!
They also milking the hell out of joker.
DC live action appearances of Batman’s villains.
Joker: 5
Harley: 3
Two Face: 2
Bane: 2(well, kinda)
Scarecrow: 2(I won’t count is stupid part in TDKR)
Penguin and Riddler: 1(soon to change!)
Mr. Freeze, Poison Ivy, Killer Croc, Ras’ Al Goul had 1.
It’s crazy to me and the overuse of Joker and especially Harley will make other people fatigued of those two also. By the way Joker is still one of my faves, just every time I see him it’s less impactful to me...
@@wardenmagellan2643 she’s even had just as many appearances as cat woman (if we’re counting the kinda unofficial catwoman movie)
@@motorwayt-s628 yeah I wanted to count her but didn’t because she’s only kind of a villain in Batman Returns
To me, Joker works better off alone as a villain, and even if Harley was with Joker, she works better as a complete sidekick and not some "couple".
SIJW, you worded the fan's relationship with DC pretty well in the beginning. Just, some examples of DC's perfection, like the LiveAction shows that aren't part of the Berlantiverse.
One way to show Superman growing darkness in becoming a dictator is to have someone to temp him, but rather than character assassinate wonderwoman, have someone like Black Adam to help superman become this monster by enforcing his regime and have him kill a hero like Shazam but by the end, have Black Adam betray superman, so Adam can rule the earth.
Basically replace Amazo plot line with Black Adam.
I'm a black adam fan, but making him a villain here would really help the plot as it is in the injustice movie.
I love how the “good” Superman has trunks
Consider that the "good" universe is the pre-New 52 one. That's my opinion, anyway. Yes, I know "Injustice" isn't New 52, but the game came out after New 52 did, so I see it as taking after the New 52's philosophy.
I like the old school Superman suit I don't like the new Superman suit it looks plain
I understand why some people hate the "Trunks" look for superheroes (RUclipsr Degenerate Jay being one of them!) but I personally have never minded it. A lot of these characters have had better suits, don't get me wrong. Hell, I mean I even like Batman's Long Halloween outfit.
That might have made him the Silver Age Superman.
@@Pikashades Superman had trunks until 2011 when the New 52 started.
Golden Age Superman had a slightly different emblem on his chest and possibly a different looking belt.
It feels to me like Warner Animation tried to cram too much stuff into a 1 hour and 30 minutes runtime, and it just didn't work. A story like Injustice deserves a lot more.
Injustice : they ruined mi adaptacion
The killing joke : welcome to the club
Same with Hush, they botched that one pretty good.
@@Nightman221k true
@@Nightman221k yeah the whole riddle thing really pissed me off
@@SandMan1998 When Batman said the Riddler was nothing more than a D-list loser villain I was legitimately caught off-guard. The guy is definitely an A-list of Batman Rogues. Maybe if it was the Cluemaster or Killer Moth, but saying the Riddler was a villain the other villains would be ashamed of working with thinking Hush wasn't him was stupid. They should have kept it Thomas Elliot.
Objectively the best Amazo was the one from the original DCAU, Young justice had an interesting one off take, but it holds no candles to the king.
Thank you for this, I haven't watched it yet due to how much they changed and yeah... injustice is my favorite story from D.C and I don't seeing me watching this any time soon.
I feel like this would have gone better if it was a television series similar to invincible but alas
I watched this a week ago. Never been more disappointed in an adaptation since The Killing Joke. The changes that they made to the original story really did not improve it or make it unique, apart from Plastic Man. Too many characters who played a big part in the original story of the game were unceremoniously killed off and I agree that the voice actor for Joker was not the best. So overall, not great, they didn't even use Christopher Drake and Dan Forden's wonderful music and main theme which I love to bits.
I liked the killing joke…
@@dallashewitt3742 You should probably read the original if you thought the adaptation was good
@@kirin8735 Not saying it was a good adaptation, just saying I liked the movie itself.
You should totally do worst to best DC animated movies if you haven’t already. just subbed digging the content
i love this harley, good harley is also always nice to see, she finally got over "pudding" and is now allyed with the guy joker has an obsession with
I read the comics after this and I am stunned. There are so many important parts and important characters left out.
That Joker sounds like Pennywise getting electrocuted, but he is a difficult character to pull off.
They should've made it a Trilogy to flesh out the story a little bit more, or a mini series I don't know, but adapting so much story in less than 90 minutes simply killed the movie
Thank you for including Troy Baker at the End. Hearing his Joker Again made me Happy as he’s my Favorite version.
Vee, I have read the five "graphic novels" that actually proceed both games. Those are quite good, and I do consider myself a DC fan. I don't have a massive DC collection though. I was into Marvel more so in my youth(teens and 20"s) but as I got older and in to my 30's and now 40's) I 'm more into DC! Weird right?
Well, you did a good review to an animated DC movie I have yet to see, because I would have to go out and buy it, assuming it is not on streaming services: Netflix, and Amazon Prime Video. So maybe I will buy it some day, just to be able to say I saw it. Justin Hartley as Superman, odd casting choice, and I know Kevin Conroy was cast as Batman though. Tim Daly or George Newbern wasn't availible? I like the points you brought up: Harley Quinn's voice casting of Gillian Jacobs trying to imitate Arleene Sorkin is not necessary, and Flash getting killed early on, is also bad.
Or just walk the plank if you know what I mean
Would totally live to see you tackle the comics and games there is so much story and characters that were left out of the games such as the green Lantern war and the red lantern war and yellow lantern superman
As a DC fan. I am extremely disappointed about how they went about things in this movie as well as the reactions from the death of each and every character. Batmans reaction to the death of Nightwing (Poor execution of how he dies) was the most accurate one to how someone would react when losing a loved one. Everyone else didn't seem to care about anything. SPECIALLY The Flash.
I think the multiverse being tacked on at the end is going to tie in to a running thread that links the other new dcau films into a multiversal battle, perhaps a convergence event
I don't wanna ever hear anyone say Jared Leto was the worst Joker ever again after this version, I find the voice he does disgusting and they should've gotten Richard Epcar to voice him
Leto is still by far the worst joker! A tiny little joke of a villain who wasn't intimidating in the least and don't even get me started on those ignorant tattoos. Joker would NEVER have the word damaged on him because he believes he's the only person not crazy.
This joker was still better than Leto ever will be
@@flamingcoconuts8298 Jared leto wasn't bad you just don't like him Zack Snyder redeemed him.His tattoos weren't that bad but they shouldn't have put damaged on his head.He felt like a true boss of crime in Suicide squad that everyone feared simply because he was Psychotic.
@@hoodiek6802 Yeah... No. 5 seconds of screen time can't redeem a shit character. Especially not with the stupid "we live in a society" line.
@@hoodiek6802 Snyder didn’t do shit to redeem Leto. He just doesn’t have those stupid tattoos. But instead he just has strawberry jam smeared on his face instead of the iconic red smile, while still doing that stupid laugh and talking super slow nonsense. At this point we are never going to have a proper live action adaptation of the best version of our Uncle J. We’re never going to see a live action Joker like the many versions that Mark Hamill has voiced.
Here's one of the few good things I found from the movie: Joker's theme (or the music that plays the most whenever he's brought up). It's perfectly disturbing, scary, and cool.
Dude the comic series covering the five years between superman killing the joker and the other superman fight is the best part of injustice.
I'm not mad they killed Flash. Perhaps tthey wanted to do something different to surprise the fans.
What I am mad about is how they killed him.
And NEVER aknowlaged it, nor did anything interesting with it
Yeah, it was random af
Personally I liked it. I thought to myself “It’s about time Superman realized the error of his ways!”. My belief is that Superman can’t be evil. And even if he could, no self-respecting Superman fan would ever want to see him in that light
Plus I always wanted to see Lois view Superman’s new world
Yep, my sentiments exactly
Yeah but it makes no sense, is rushed, and poorly executed. I'll take an out of character superman with good writing over a half baked redemption arc
@@MrTREEHUNTER22 but the fact is there is only one thing going through my mind when I play these games: “When, Lord? When the hell is Superman gonna see that what he’s doing is wrong?!”
This movie was trash , the games and comics are far superior for this particular story.
I thought what they did with Green Lantern in the original Injustice didn't make sense. Hal's the guy that narced on Sinestro to the guardians for doing the exact same thing Supes is doing. They even had Sinestro join up with Supes saying "yeah, this is just like what I tried to do with Korugar", and Hal is like "okay, I'm cool with that. Screw the guardians"
Yeah Hal's motivations in game were poorly done. They should've used the Emerald Twilight angle, it would've had more meaning to it.
Yeah Hal's motivations for initially working with sinestro were pretty poor but i do like the way Sinestro essentially gives him no option but to put on the yellow ring for the first time. Either way I can forgive it just for how badass Yellow Lantern's design is. Really sucks that he was left out of the film since I was really hoping to see yellow hal in anything animated.
ah the Lady Macbeth comparison for Wonderwhore was spot on
I remember turning to my bro and saying “that was the best DC animated film I’ve seen in a long time.”
Then again, I don’t know the source material. Also, the ending felt a bit tacked on.
Still, the whole thing felt good.
So it's like when they did "Death of Superman" the first time, Condensed 3 books into a 70 minute movie resulting in a mess.
I don't see how it couldn't be 2+ movies like they did with other long adaptions.
- DKR = 2 movies
- Death & Return Of Superman (redo) = 2 movies
- Long Halloween = 2 movies
And as for Harley being there, She's there because she's Harley. DC feel the need to shove her in ANYTHING nowadays.
For harley turning good you gotta read injustice ground zero
Fuck that😡Harley Quinn is nothing more than the Joker's pathetic girlfriend. The fact that the writers and the fanbase have overblown this annoying overrated overpowered character, every single one of you who supports this weak character can go fuck themselves👎
@@WillsonT011 yeah I’m pretty much tired of Harley. She’s so overrated and DC hypes get up more than any other DC female character. Wonder Woman and Catwoman and Batgirl and Supergirl and so on get barely half as much merch as Harley put together. It’s kind of an embarrassment that a character with little to contribute is put on such a high pedestal.
@@WillsonT011 in injustice she was the worst too. She’s responsible for destroying a city and Green Arrow and Black Canary act like she’s their best friend. I kinda wanted her to meet a grisly end for helping the Joker kill a whole city and murdered Lois and the baby since it’s pure evil behavior but Ollie and Dinah were enthralled by her manic pixie dream girl bullshit and kept her alive.
@@WillsonT011
Harley quinn is the kind of women, you wanna have one crazy one night stand, then regret it next day, but still enjoy it. Like how Deathshoot did in Attack on Arkham animated movie.
If you’re going Evil Superman, you go full Homelander.
Anyone remember the Justice League Cartoon series that used to air back in the day , and The Original Teen Titans, man they were all Goated but now they fu*ked up the DC brand , it's actually sad
Thank you. This adaption followed so little from the comic and game origins tgat it hurt to watch
It was a total let down. They should've known this story could only be done by splitting it into multiple movies or a making a show to truly do it justice.
Here are my main 5 complaints. I know no one asked but I need to vent whenever I think about this movie.
1. Flash's death (like actually, wtf???)
2. Green arrows death (completely removed all the importance of Superman's first step too far.)
3. I agree, Joker was just too wrongly done.
4. The fact nightwing died just from the head trauma alone. I know irl it happens but they should have kept his neck breaking in.
5. The fact that they got rid of the green lanterns, the lantern war was probably my favourite event from the comic and showed how far Superman had gone and how he was no longer holding back. I mean he killed a fkn planet.
I have more than 5 but I'm done venting. Thank you.
6. Letting sinestro torture a civilian for information. Sinestro just did it for his own enjoyment, but superman was like "keep at it"
The game cutscenes did a better job conveying the story. And the movie could have been several movies.
Instant like for having Kevin Conroy at the end 👍🏼
Great video! Would love to hear you going into the games and comics to!
so tired of Harley being constantly pushed in our face these days. she was great as a background sidekick in the 90s, she was my favorite.. now i just can't stand her in any iteration.
she was a integral part of batman's forces in the story tho
I just wish they'd stop writing her as so stupid and leaving out the fact she has a fucking PHD.
She's ditzy, not a moron.
Like, make her a lesbian. That's fine. Change her outfit. Fine. Break up w joker?? Great!! But her core character traits seem gone.
@@Ender4175 fanservice killed the character. now she's just a manic pixie bi/les fanboy dreamgirl meme generator.
I find it mostly comes down to if she's the focus of the story. She's wonderful in the birds of prey movie and harley quinn show. But here and the injustice source material she's just sort of tacked on to sell. When tacked she's written to be Joker's sidekick even when he's not in the story. She constantly references Joker and makes one liners while letting others get all the glory or character arcs. Whereas other stories explore her as a character.
@@eduardoflores2780 Last I checked she and her gang were still pretty homicidal in those movies/shows as well.
Personally I like Amazo’s look in the Justice League. It’s simple and it makes him look like a classic metropolis style robot and I mean like the Metropolis movie from 1920s kinda vibes. I mean it’s better than looking like a robo mariner.
Injustice comic: the flash is supposed to represent redemption through hard work
Injustice Movie: nah let’s just kill him
Ughh... * drops coffee * . Do you need to talk about the "complete disappointment" line ? We are here for you...*Bro hug*
Thank you for the Harley singing gif.