The Rise and Fall of Dead Space
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- Опубликовано: 4 окт 2024
- moon's haunted
We're actually covering something thematically relevant for the season! Remember last Halloween? Age of Empires? Jeeez.
So, my Dead Space series retrospective. Dead Space is a pretty cool 3rd person shooter built for horror, but it tends to do better with action. I think it's scary enough for the average player, but it only takes one cutscene compilation post-Dead Space 1 to see where they were going with it. Mind you, ALL the games are fun and playable. 1 is closest to its cinematic horror roots, 2's just a blast, and 3's a bit unfortunate. Still, glad I got the chance to play 'em all through.
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So when this team studies dead bodies in a morgue they’re “dedicated” and “thoughtful” but when I DO it I’m “creepy” and “violating patrol”
"The obvious example being the Necromorphs, the resident evil of the USG Ishimura" yooouuuu
oh hey it's the cool guy
Nice to see you here, good taste
Oh your the mortal kombat mini games guy
Love you!
The fact the team actually studied dead bodies in morgues shows how much care the team had.
They really cared for the series, too bad the suits (EA) just pressured them to make the generic action game with some horror elements. And when the game obviously failed, they killed the studio
act. they didnt just studie bodys at morges they also studied the horrors of car crashs and all in between to get the dismemberment animations
Those are some Michelangelo levels of dedication lol.
According to the Art Book this is a rumor, but they still studied dry and wet blood contrast with fish blood and they bought goat meat and let it rot for some textures.
@@strikeforce1500 hurp a Durp it's never the developers fault durp
Remember when isaac was in a skateboarding game
Remember when EA made great single player focused games? Those were days...
1v1 me S.K.A.T.E
Or an unlockable skin in Army of Two: The 40th Day (at least the psp version)
@@istkisaragi4096
Don’t forget Dragon Age 2! You can unlock a Sir Isaac Clarke armor set which actually looked pretty dope but also clashed with the medieval setting.
He was also in a Golf game.
The real dead space was all the weapons we crafted along the way.
"Feels more like, Alive Space.... I forgot how to write."
There's only one Necromorph stronger than the moon's.
EA
Underrated comment ever.
Chaz.
The Brethren Moons are *literally Entertainment Apocalypse appearing in-game.*
I don't wanna be that guy, but it hurt me the whole video so I have to say it. Did you ever flip modes on the plasma cutter? It can shoot horizontally for those nasty leg cutting shots.
Don't worry, it bothered me, too. We're both that guy now.
I was thinking I was the only one that noticed
Here comes another guy
Horizontal is the way
2:48, he has it flipped while talking about how his controller triggers are messed up
I laughed so loud at the "I'm not running for president" joke that I was heard in the other room of the house XD
Haha nice
@Jesus Alonso I don’t know why you think it was directed at just Joe Biden when Trump gave us classic lunatic old man tantrums about injecting bleach to cure COVID and had the military tear gas protesters so he could hold a bible upside down in front of a church for a photo op lmao.
"I'm not running for president," was absolute gold.
@Ch Pe yes
Wait, this isn't an anime fighter
Dead Space 4 isn't out yet, we still have a chance.
I’m not a big fan of remasters but I’d love and I wish they’d make a dead space trilogy remaster collection.
Same.
Pretty sure they’re remastering the first one
Honestly my one issue with the game is how pointless all the other weapons are. There is utterly no reason not to use anything other than the plasma cutter. Sometimes other weapons are slightly more useful for certain enemies, especially in 2, but only slightly. Like the toddlers and the assault riffle. But you can still kill em easily enough with the plasma cutter. And in the first game there's nothing like that. I think its a weakness in design.
You gotta experiment with the weapons to understand their uses all the original weapons in the second game were changed and improved
Plasma cutter is very understandable as a all in one tool
Line gun amazing for taking out two slashers/pukers in one shot to the head and arms and the alternate is great for killing the wall guardians
Edit: I forgot this one but even an achievement/trophy shows you another use that involves shooting all three lurkers tentacles off in a single shot
Pulse rifle like you said very useful for the pack and exploders and its great for beheading them and it functions just like the plasma cutter can be an all in one tool with no leading delay shot accuracy
Force gun great for basic crowd control especially against leapers and they can be finished off with the alternative shot when knocked back and a very good extra use is to clear a group of swarm
Flamethrower Is there for double damage opportunity, you incinerate an enemy and while its taking fire damage switch to another weapon for extra damage works mostly with stalkers , brutes, dividers
The ripper is a tough one but I just use its alternate shot to cripple far enemies to slow them down
Seeker rifle is usefull for precision shots clearly , aiming for the glowing parts on enemies, brutes, exploders, nests, tripods and if you're up for it it can one shot most enemies when upgraded
Detonater can only really be useful for stalker situations but otherwise i wouldn't use it for anything else
Contact beam works best for tank enemies, dividers, brutes, and the ubermorph and the alternate shot with build in stasis helps in moving around the room for a second to breath
Javelin gun is hard to figure which purpose its for
Rivet gun im not sure since I never pre order the game but I've heard it's a terrible weapons that runs out of ammo very quickly
Them there's the hand cannon
@@nestormelendez9005 I always found the plasma cutter boring. Sure it was practical but it was so freaking boring.
@@nestormelendez9005 Seeker rifle is one of my favorites. It's the like the contact beam and pulse rifle had a baby, and it's so powerful and ammo efficient if you have good aim.
Valid criticism. People rarely experiment different weapons on their own. That's why Doom Eternal forces the player to use all his tools.
@@elielc.8459 Yeah try playing Doom Eternal to use only one gun for the whole game. Sure it could be done but its a hell of a lot harder. In any Dead Space game, it hardly makes a difference one way or the other. Then again I've never played the games on hard before.
Nostalgia hitting home but i just remember screaming a little too much while playing at night
I was a little pussy when I first played Dead Space.
That eye machine scared me the most when playing it on Hardcore. God, doing that part made me shake because it had been a few chapters since I saved.
Worth it for the foam finger
@@DakotaofRaptors oh deadass. I don’t know if it was a glitch for my copy or an actual feature but even smacking enemies with the foam finger insta-killed them
This will always be a tough 1 to stomach, Dead Space 1 & 2 were 2 of the best games of the 7th generation & still hold up well today, the 3rd game? Yeah well...
The Man, the Myth, the Legend...
Kbash.
discovered your channel about a weeek ago, ive been in bed recovering from a surgery. hidden gem man, and now a video with what was the scariest game ive ever played. keep up the hard work im sure that sub count is gonna boom.
He's a hidden gem, indeed.
Was it mayhaps eye surgery?
@@benlohmer5703 Tee-hee.
Dead space 2's multiplayer was so unbalanced humans were just too OP and just with one stasis shot can kill the strongest necromoprh like nothing, and the grenades that were so anoying with his stupid stun that every human spam every time to 2 shot kill the necromorphs
Why's everyone doing Dead Space retrospectives now?
Regardless, great video. I remember having been bored of DS3 within the first half hour.
Halloween time
Subliminal message for saying we want that shit back asap
@@JoeJoe-nb3lt Yes.
Because we miss it. It created a wound in the culture that can never be healed.
I glad someone else sees the usefulness and power of the Force Gun. The Force Gun and Plasma Cutter was my go to combo for Zealot difficulty.
"Y'all ever taught kindergarten though?" *KEVIN AND SOPHIA INTENSIFIES*
Because EA killed off the franchise the ending of Awakened DLC will forever haunt me
The series was so good it's my favorite space game next to mass effect
Did it end on a cliffhanger? I never played DS3.
@@Neo_Geisha the DLC showed a cliffhanger with moons reaching earth
They kind of wrote themselves into a corner on that one.
Wow, dept heaven games sure have changed.
12:13 Can you imagine this put out of context?
K bash, just wanted to let you know I've been subscribed to you for close to a year, and you're quickly becoming my favorite gaming RUclipsr. Thank you for your content you cheeky bastard
Fucking love 2. It's about as scary as 1, which is to say not at all, but holy shit is it fun.
The chances you'd upload a Dead Space series retrospective video the exact day after I finally played a Dead Space game (Dead Space 2) for the first time in my life... :O
Awesome series though, I fell in love with the gameplay pretty much immediately.
So happy when i see my fav horror game to this day still get some recognition
I've been starting to watch kbash since yesterday. Diamond in the rough. Seriously great stuff. I just hope when his channel inevitably kicks off it doesn't loose quality like other youtubers I used to watch before him.
I swear the only calm part of the dead space series were the cute little birds in 2
Always thought Isaac didn't speak in 1 because he was scared out of his mind lol.
Not to mention. Why would you want to alert the threat of your presence. Quiet keeps you alive.
@@lampymoth6719 add the fact that mostly everyones dead…Yeah there isnt really any point to talking at all.
As always, very well written and carefully edited review. Thoroughly enjoyed it and I had learned something about the topic on the end of the video. Wonderfull work. Keep at it!
Great series. Sad that we are probably not getting a new one anytime soon... ;(
Visceral is dead and “horror doesn’t sell”. Change anytime soon to ever again and be sure to thank EA afterwards.
The Callisto Protocol and Negative Atmosphere are coming! 🤞
About 4 vids in, Close to a sub. Really enjoying everything I'm seeing so far. Gona be watching and hopefully still enjoying.
Great stuff so far.
I never played a Dead Space game but I do know there was a movie on Netflix and a Wii shooter
A pretty solid shooter, too, by the way.
I really hated the universal ammo and customized weapons aspect of DS3. I get that Isaac's an engineer, blah blah blah. But for me, I very quickly and easily got an overpowered gun. Combine that with many of the newer enemies not having the strategic delimbing being very important, the combat became a lot less interesting to me as all I needed to was aim my gun in the general vicinity of an enemy and hold the trigger down. Good thing you skipped the subsequent side missions, cause from my experience, the first one is the only interesting one. Once you get down to the planet, they all seem to be copy & paste with very little in the way of interesting story elements. I also don't think the coop helps with any horror experience the game might still be trying to hold onto.
This is a tough watch, press F to pay respect to Dead Space
You showed gratitude by mentioning. I showed gratitude by listening.
Love your channel. Feel like I’m watching the golden age of RUclips again but new
I loved Dead Space. RIP to such a high potential series.
Love you Kbash. Do the Time Splitter games next!!
Horror themed action games are some of my favorites, and it makes me sad that fear and dead space are basically the only two franchises that really did that.
Yeah i feel the same. Unfortunately when people think of horror they think of struggling for your life barely scraping by not turning your enemies to chunks with powerful weapons. Theres a reason alot of indie devs and AAA devs try to go for survival than action. Luckily its slowly changing…REALLY slowly actually. Re8 and callisto protocol come to mind. It’s unfortunate most people don’t consider action horror games as actual horror games and pulling the excuse “its not a horror game if its not making you feel helpless just make it an action game.”
I’ve never played Dead Space but this video got me realizing that I’ve been missing out on something good
Always a good day when Kbash uploads.
The weapon crafting of 3 had so much depth and genuinely interesting combinations to futz around with. It had no place in a horror game though (even action horror) due to the reliance on universal ammo, and saddling it to the resource mining robots that were tied to microtransactions certainly didn't help.
In a vacuum I loved it, and I did get a lot more mileage out of the game on repeat playthroughs by just messing around with all the options at your disposal, but it needed to be in a game like Sunset Overdrive where spectacle is a bit more important than mood.
This man is is insane when he used Octopath Traveler music for the outro
Seeing you never turn the pistol made my brain go fucky
Thanks for covering this game
I listen to you read out the Patrons every time just to hear you say simp GOD
This video gave me so many laughs, u gained a sub
This was a great video of Mr bash, dead spaces one of my favorite series I hope to see it return one day but not in the linear shooter format we've seen in one or two games.
Always watch the special thanks for Simp God. Another great video, thank you for the experience
Turn the difficulty up. Handles a lot of the issues you're describing
Even though I would love a Dead Space 4. Knowing EA, it will surely be another DS 3, but even more incomplete and with more microtransactions. And 100% they would make the DS 1 suit a pre order
Edit: I honestly never felt like DS 3 was build with coop in mind. The cinematics in themain campaign are basically Isaac doing stuff, while Carver frick off, off camera
Haven’t even started the vid yet but I know it’s a banger
Stroggification>Needle in the Eye
The story dlcs for 2 and 3, Severed and Awakened, were amazing.
Not if you're on pc:(
Awesome video for an incredible series. You did good man.
Now I really want KBash to cover F-Zero GX
Your content deserves so much more interaction.
Minus the patreon read out. You gotta figure out a different reward man hahahaha
I discovered that blowing the head of every dead human on the floor, stop the infection that creates a lot of those monsters. Actually the bugs can't controll the body and just move around the corpse lol
Yeah, I don't like survival horror as a rule. I hate the idea that eventually I have to start over because I wasn't efficient enough and ran out of items. Deadspace was different enough that I really enjoyed it, 2 especially was good.
I thought the necromorphs in Dead Space 3 were a little bland in design. Though the aliens were cool but still not very appealing. I really enjoyed playing co-op especially when you and your friend were super into Dead Space.
Love your stuff kbash keep it coming
Unpopular opinion I guess but I thought the more action oriented direction was a good choice we already know what the enemies are like from the first one so it felt natural to add more action into the mix
Kbash blesses us during spooky season!
This game was sooo good I just finished it on my channel
The free suits and guns in dead space 2 werent always free, ea got a problem i dont remember why but they had to get everything free
I played and finished the first and second Dead space using only the plasma cutter :D It was do-able and a good challenge. Plus, you get to max out your armor earlier than normal :)
I wish he could have talked about extraction. It was a really good on rails shooter and a solid side story that added some interesting lore.
Can we PLEASE somehow get some kind of DeadSpace x Halo crossover? I want Isaac wielding a plasma sword and shit like that
The "Eyeball thing" is the only reason I won't give the game a shot.
I really want a dead space remaster trilogy collection for the ps4/ps5
Wait, people thought the force gun was weak? that shit never left my quick select once I got itn it's like a hammer with wide sweep and reach out and touch modes, it's disgustingly strong.
I let out the ugliest laugh at "alive space", it's 1:30am here
Dead Space 2 is one of the top ten video games of all time.
2:50 that's a port issue because I got the exact same problem, except sometimes the gun wouldn't fire at all until I reloaded the save or fuckin' died.
At least the franchise seems to be getting a 2nd chance, so that's nice.
Honestly, I really enjoyed the settings of Dead Space 3, until they got to the alien city. The ruined fleet and the abandoned military base on the planet felt really cool to me. When the game started focusing on alien stuff though, it dropped the ball. Hard. I wish the game had been better overall.
Great video! Dead Space is one of my favorite games ever. I actually delved into most of the extended universe when it was still relevant. The Wii game, Extraction, is better than it has any right to be. Seriously, a light gun spinoff that captures the same feel as the main entries is just insane. Highly recommend it. The DLC for Dead Space 2 caps off the story of extraction. It’s not bad, but I wouldn’t bother if you haven’t played the Wii game. The DLC for 3 from what I remember was pretty good. It brought back a lot of the scares for a couple hours and is regarded as what the main game should have been. I also got the Dead Space 2 puzzle prequel for preordering the game from GameStop (PoWeR tO tHe PlAyErS!). It’s a short, easy puzzle game with fuck ugly art and contributes very little to the overall story. Don’t bother.
The novel, Dead Space: Martyr is another case of something being better than it has any right to be. The author must have been a fan or at least done their homework because it’s a faithful and spooky prequel to the first game. The second novel, Catalyst, I found very boring. The first half is a political thriller if you can believe that. Not a very good one either. The second half just meanders around “psychological horror” but it’s very boring.
The comics have some nice art work, but are ultimately pretty boring. They throw them in as a bonus on the Wii game and I believe they’re fully voice acted. Can’t remember if it was any good or not. They’re also probably on RUclips for free.
I never watched the animations. I saw some clips here and there on RUclips and it seemed ok enough, but all the movies were critically panned, so I never bothered.
Tldr: play Extraction, Dead Space 3’s DLC, and read Dead Space: Martyr.
for the algo. We need more videos kbash
Bro I love these games
For the longest time I thought Lost Planet and Dead Space were the same thing lmao
We’re doing kbash baby!!!! LETS GOOOOOOOO
I pets wouldn’t compare Dead Space to RE4 but still good video. My favorite part of Dead Space is that you’re not a soldier or cop you’re just a researcher in a cool suit that’s it. I’d compare it more to RE2 when it comes to the horror elements. But nothing else.
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As someone who doesn't play shooters and generally can't handle horror games, you convinced me to play Dead Space & I loved it. That said, how long were you stuck on the asteroid minigame? Cause fuck that minigame so hard
Saw Dead Space.. instant clicks
I would buy a remake of the first game becuase with the advanced lighting tech it would create an even better atmosphere i would kill for that.
I ave 269 hours on dead space 3. Infact this video makes me want to play it again. So that what I’ll do.
I randomly came across your channel a month ago, and as a dead space fan(read the books) I think your analysis is fair. I feel bad for the potential Visceral had with this IP but EA, like always, screwed it up.
Ahhhh Kbash on a Friday , my meaningless life has 20 mins of pointless meaning. Thanks for all the hard work my fello Canuck.
EA: "Your Mom hates this game"
My Mom: Actually likes Dead Space 2
My biggest gripe in the series is that you can't experience it fully if you are just a person with a pc. Complete dead space 1, 2, 3, do the dlc for 3, and that's it. No dlcs for 1, no story dlc for 2. Such a fucking shitty choice EA made.
Boy you ain't mention the ripper the best weapon in the entire game
How did you feel about the Wii rail-shooting prequel
Ive went back and played 3 recently. Its not as terrible as I remember, I was just pretty upset at all the changes and cash grabs when it came out. Its not amazing but im still glad it exists so i have more deadspace to play when I want a throwback.
It’s a bad Dead Space game, but a pretty good 3rd person, sci-if shooter. If only they balanced the weapon customization. At least it’s fun to make over powered weapons, but it makes every encounter a joke.
Awwwwww this brings back memories, grew up with the first 2 games. Yes when everyone else was out hanging out I was in my room with the lights off playing bioshock, dead space, elder scrolls, mass effect, and resident evil 4. Serious what ea is doing, dont get why they haven't released a port for the switch. Wake up EA, Im literally asking you to take my money, you know just not in that under handed having to pay for multiplayer way.
Never really cared for Dead space but i'd argue in terms of writing a character caring for their loved one; it doesn't matter if you or another player cares it's more if the character cares and their motivations involve protecting or saving them.
I've always disliked the argument of "well I dont like the character the protagonist loves-" It shouldn't matter, you're playing the character's story not the players story.
Idk always made sense to me, I dont think cloud and tifa have much chemistry at all, he's stoic and boring and doesn't really interact with that side of her until super later (and dont get me started on the movie where he disappears and she's still all over him despite him not wanting anything to do with love.) but what matters is tifa wants to try working this out and maybe cloud wants to as well.
Idk it's one of those things that never made sense to me but a interesting topic to broach as well.
I believe a story works best when it's able to make the reader feel invested, especially in a video game, where you literally wear the character's shoes. If the narrative only establishes Isaac's relationship with his girlfriend without developing it, you as the player don't have a good enough reason story-wise to want to rescue her.
Does it matter, in the case of Dead Space? Not really, the gameplay and atmosphere are good enough to make you want to see it through to the end. But if the game managed to make me care about saving the girl, the story could be much more impactful.
Isn't cloud's love interest Aerith?