I‘m glad I found this video 🙏 I was pretty sure flat is non reactive as it felt like that. So presence and deep are adding from zero to full and not subtracting from 12 o‘clock downwards and adding from 12 upwards if I got that right!?…
This is very high quality. I bought it for my 2204 Marshall. Worked just like I wanted. Then I tried it through my Engl, Soldano, DR. Z And Marshall Studio plexie. It worked great through all of them. Sound quality is second to none.. Great job Steve and thank you. CW.
Digging these. I've often thought my PS-2 and PS-100 sound "flat" at different settings for different amps / loads. Good to know I'm not any more crazy than I already was before.
And let’s not overlook the shining BLUE Power Stations at Chuck Levins celebrating their Sapphire 65th anniversary. Very well done. Makes me want to get another PS!
Could you develop a 50/50 stereo version of the Power Station - with a stereo FX loop? Just imagine what a game-changing product that would be. You could run ANY tube amp in stereo to two cabinets without needing a separate head, while utilizing the attenuation/re-amping wizardry of the PS.
I'm looking closely at the power station, primarily just to use as a power amp. I'm running a Friedman IR-X from the send out, and want the equivalent of a good tube power stage in an amp. Is the power station going to be too neutral or flat for this purpose? Would I be better off with one of the other Fryette power amps if my use case is NOT to attenuate and then re-amplify a signal that already has power tube saturation going on?
I set mine to where it sounds good and don’t give a thought to if it’s ‘flat’ or not. You’ll end up with overanalysis paralysis otherwise. Let you ears be your guide and not your eyes.
Is there a scenario where it would be more desirable to use the flat setting vs engaging the reactive part of the unit? Like if you were going direct without an actual cabinet using IR’s?
@@FryetteAmpsthanks guys. One more question… i heard somewhere the flattest setting on the ps2 is actually in the middle position of both switches. Is that right?
@FryetteAmps Thank you, thank you. When it comes in, it's my first purchase. I have 3 big amps collecting dust that I am ready to use again. I've done some research and I am extremely impressed by the concept you guys have made here. 👏
This is what confused me about the power station as an attenuator. I look at the knobs and I just scratch my head because all I would want is something that allows me to hear my amp but quieter. I don’t want to hear the power station. I just want a glorified external master volume so to speak.
The Flat setting is Perfect for TrainWrecks. As in Real TrainWrecks JMD's. as close to transparent as you can get, and Lets you Wreck at low volumes. Are the Power Stations Expensive??? NO and Pfhk NO. These are a very strong value for your dollar. It is what you are getting for your money. The PS 100 is a Beast and when you are cranking the Wreck. The KT 88's in the PS really go to work.. I am thinking in Part that the 88's are Attenuating due to the heat that is being dissipated... and that is Brilliant Engineering.
TLDR set where it sounds right... That's a very bad answer to be honest. Many people are asking where is the flattest setting because they want to address EQ adjustments in whatever pre-amp they're using (in the scenario where the PS2 is being used as a power amp). And using the EQ on PS2 for small adjustments (different venues etc). I'm using a Fractal FM3 with a PS2-A and I have to boost the lows to the max I can on the PS2 to make it sound ok. Now it could be that my preset is to bright/doesn't have enough low end or it could be that the PS2 doesn't have enough low end. Without anything to compare too I wouldn't know. In other words what i think people are asking is not about volumes (FM curve), speakers influence, perception, ears, bla bla. It's literally which configuration the PS2 is not adding or subtracting frequencies, aka the "flattest " setting. Is it setting eq on "flat" with presence and depth turned off? Looks like it is. Not sure yet
Yes I agree...I couldnt have said it any better.....That IS why I'd like to know what "flat is" ie: What setting is it where the power-station is not adding or subtracting any "EQ" of it's own
Why are these things so damn expensive? I really only want it for the effects loop because I don't want to mod my amp. But it is way too expensive for just that.
I use mine to add an fx loop to my jcm 2203. Its wonderful. Also being able to play in the house with literally my girlfriend asleep in the next room is an added bonus. Retains your amps original tone, plus with tone shaping options and other channel (which i use just for a volume boost) make it well worth it. Also it can take preamps as well. Its amazing
A great explanation of frequency response and flat is what we perceive as flat.
I‘m glad I found this video 🙏 I was pretty sure flat is non reactive as it felt like that. So presence and deep are adding from zero to full and not subtracting from 12 o‘clock downwards and adding from 12 upwards if I got that right!?…
This is very high quality. I bought it for my 2204 Marshall. Worked just like I wanted. Then I tried it through my Engl, Soldano, DR. Z And Marshall Studio plexie. It worked great through all of them. Sound quality is second to none.. Great job Steve and thank you. CW.
Digging these. I've often thought my PS-2 and PS-100 sound "flat" at different settings for different amps / loads. Good to know I'm not any more crazy than I already was before.
And let’s not overlook the shining BLUE Power Stations at Chuck Levins celebrating their Sapphire 65th anniversary. Very well done. Makes me want to get another PS!
That’s why it’s good to set the EQ on your amplifier while closing your eyes and using your ears
This should be required viewing when you get a power station, great video!
So basically you're telling me to set it to where it sounds good? Wow! That's crazy 🤣
Thank you this is a good format and it's much appreciated
Could you develop a 50/50 stereo version of the Power Station - with a stereo FX loop? Just imagine what a game-changing product that would be. You could run ANY tube amp in stereo to two cabinets without needing a separate head, while utilizing the attenuation/re-amping wizardry of the PS.
Thank you for a great explanation. :)
killer episode, most excellent info!
This video was super useful, thank you!
How does this affect/interact with the negative feedback (or lack of NFB) of the amp connected to it?
The same way a speaker does, or various speakers do.
Shiny Box of Happiness 😆🤣
I'm looking closely at the power station, primarily just to use as a power amp. I'm running a Friedman IR-X from the send out, and want the equivalent of a good tube power stage in an amp. Is the power station going to be too neutral or flat for this purpose? Would I be better off with one of the other Fryette power amps if my use case is NOT to attenuate and then re-amplify a signal that already has power tube saturation going on?
It will work great for that ad confirmed by Dave Friedman himself.
@@FryetteAmps great thank you!
I set mine to where it sounds good and don’t give a thought to if it’s ‘flat’ or not. You’ll end up with overanalysis paralysis otherwise. Let you ears be your guide and not your eyes.
Is there a scenario where it would be more desirable to use the flat setting vs engaging the reactive part of the unit? Like if you were going direct without an actual cabinet using IR’s?
When playing at closer to normal volume levels, setting the load to flat usually sounds better than at low volume levels.
@@FryetteAmpsthanks guys. One more question… i heard somewhere the flattest setting on the ps2 is actually in the middle position of both switches. Is that right?
@@ttop23do you mean the dip switches or the potentiometers?
Any update when more PS-2a's are coming in?
Middle of September after we've moved to our new location. www.fryette.com/
@FryetteAmps Thank you, thank you. When it comes in, it's my first purchase. I have 3 big amps collecting dust that I am ready to use again. I've done some research and I am extremely impressed by the concept you guys have made here. 👏
Flat is what I want a power station to be.
This is what confused me about the power station as an attenuator. I look at the knobs and I just scratch my head because all I would want is something that allows me to hear my amp but quieter. I don’t want to hear the power station. I just want a glorified external master volume so to speak.
The Flat setting is Perfect for TrainWrecks. As in Real TrainWrecks JMD's. as close to transparent as you can get, and Lets you Wreck at low volumes. Are the Power Stations Expensive??? NO and Pfhk NO. These are a very strong value for your dollar. It is what you are getting for your money. The PS 100 is a Beast and when you are cranking the Wreck. The KT 88's in the PS really go to work.. I am thinking in Part that the 88's are Attenuating due to the heat that is being dissipated... and that is Brilliant Engineering.
TLDR set where it sounds right... That's a very bad answer to be honest. Many people are asking where is the flattest setting because they want to address EQ adjustments in whatever pre-amp they're using (in the scenario where the PS2 is being used as a power amp). And using the EQ on PS2 for small adjustments (different venues etc). I'm using a Fractal FM3 with a PS2-A and I have to boost the lows to the max I can on the PS2 to make it sound ok. Now it could be that my preset is to bright/doesn't have enough low end or it could be that the PS2 doesn't have enough low end. Without anything to compare too I wouldn't know.
In other words what i think people are asking is not about volumes (FM curve), speakers influence, perception, ears, bla bla.
It's literally which configuration the PS2 is not adding or subtracting frequencies, aka the "flattest " setting.
Is it setting eq on "flat" with presence and depth turned off?
Looks like it is.
Not sure yet
Yes I agree...I couldnt have said it any better.....That IS why I'd like to know what "flat is" ie: What setting is it where the power-station is not adding or subtracting any "EQ" of it's own
I still need to buy a nerdy device like this one!
Why are these things so damn expensive? I really only want it for the effects loop because I don't want to mod my amp. But it is way too expensive for just that.
I use mine to add an fx loop to my jcm 2203. Its wonderful. Also being able to play in the house with literally my girlfriend asleep in the next room is an added bonus. Retains your amps original tone, plus with tone shaping options and other channel (which i use just for a volume boost) make it well worth it. Also it can take preamps as well. Its amazing
It's worth every penny. It does like 10 super useful things. Nothing else on the market does all this stuff.
6:09 - that's all that matters. This is not hi-fi. Make tone, then make music.
I'm thinking "Off" might have been an option.
Oh man, I’m famous!
u look like mickey rourke when he was younger
Daymn ... lose that blasting loud intro...
run it through your power station to attenuate
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Naa ... I'll just choose "don't recommend this channel".
@@Douglas_Blake_579. Poos
Get a better camera man. 4K is the way.