Don’t let this distract you from the fact that Rashford has fed so many children that the Forest keeper decided to return the favour by feeding him a goal….
Spoke facts regarding the state of this once great club and was immediately shunned by the higher ups. They didn’t want to hear the harsh truths - a bit like a majority of the fanbase.
@@jonathanbowling1900 diaby was the one I wanted when we got Antony. Could not for the life of me understand why we didn't go for him. Bad recruitment again. Same thing when we got di Maria, should have got Pedro or Sanchez
@@jamesbarry9477 thats what i dont get with the transfers of Ten Hag and thinking behind them. U compare other teams and they signings like Moyes at West Ham brought in Alvarez and Kudos from Ajax and Ward Prowse all doing great for around 115M then u have Ten Hag with Antony, Casemiro and Mount around double what West Ham paid recruitment is shocking.
Even if Antony was bought at 25M , it would have been an atrocious signing . ETH worked with him and should have known about his strengths , weaknesses and ability to learn. That shows ETH is incompetent , plus letting Degea go for Onana is another sackable offense.
The problem is the recruiters seem to think Eredivisie is similar to EPL. Antony did well in a lesser league. It was the same issue with Depay and van de Beek.
A lot of Dutch players went from Eredivisie to EPL and did great. Van Persie and Ruud van Nistelrooy, Jaap Stam, Gini Wijnaldum. Just to name a few. Depay was very young and is now 2nd on the all time topscorers list for the Dutch national team. Donny should’ve never gone to United since Bruno plays in his spot. Watch him quickly become a good player again in Bundesliga. United has too many injuries and the team is lob-sided as a result. Casemiro being gone being the biggest problem.
I think its important to note that Manchester United had the opportunity to buy Antony earlier that summer. They decided not too, and waited until last minute because the season had started and had no RW. Still shows no real structure to signings or ANYTHING AT ALL.
Indeed and even worse he had at least 4 better wingers than him in Greenwood, Diallo, Sancho and Elanga. Plus playing any Martial, Rashford, Fernandes or Pellistri would provide more than Antony Had to pop back for an edit cause I forgot about a rather unknown being available also called Cristiano Ronaldo.
I feel sorry for eth but cus that signing is labelled under him as a terrible waste of money when it was really the club instead who sonehow effed up a 35-40 mil Euros deal to 85 million-90 mil pounds. Antony was never worth that much.
Van Der Sar came out and said they were quoting ridiculous amounts for Antony and tried to push United as far as they could go! What a joke Murtough is
@@pacyguy7144 McTom was never and will never be good enough to play for Man United. He scored a few goals, big deal. He's a player that can be a good player at Burnley or Luton but not at Man United.
As an Ajax fan I saw this coming. He wasn't even up to the standard of the group of players we had just before him (Neres, Ziyech...). Vd Beek was top top class at Ajax in that group as well, if he didn't make it at Utd then I truly don't understand how they thought Antony would.
@@dogdog2635it was the end of the transferwindow. He was allowed to go in the beginning of the window for 40 mil but UTD didnt want to spend it on him untill they lost their first 2 games.
@@dogdog2635it was the end of the transferwindow. He was allowed to go in the beginning of the window. for 40 mil but UTD didnt want to spend it on him untill they lost their first 2 games.
I actually dont think hes a winger. He doesnt have the pace or dribbling. His first touch is brilliant, he can do little flicks, hes got a wand of a left foot. He should be an AM.
United fans and the board didn't realise that the football last season was terrible as well but they got bailed out so many times by Rashford having a fluke season and De Gea making match winning saves
Msn Utd want wingers but are not making bids for them. Chukuweze went to Milan. Bailey went to Villa. I am sure they did not make a offer or even asked if they were available. Even Doku joined City without any interest from Man Utd.
EtH clearly overrides all decisions pertaining new signings! The fact that he decided against Ralf Rangnick being a central figure for recruitment was a huge red flag! Rangnick, despite his awful coaching was absolutely fantastic in analysing, dissecting and pulling potential solutions to the clubs problems.
You can look at teams 2 ways, the collective 11 or the individuals. Time and time again a team like Luton can drag top teams to the wire, if not beat them, but individually there is nobody a top team would sign. That's because they have what most of the teams in the league don't have, United being the prime example, which is desire, determination and everything else you would want from your club. The problem then becomes you rely on individual skill for moments in a match to save a win or a draw and Garnacho has been one of those players, McTominay in a few games too and Bruno at the start of the season. But that is never ever going to be good enough. So we can't come on here and say we need a new winger or a new keeper or a new central midfielder, because they're just replacing cogs in a broken gearbox, the entire club and team needs a retrofit. We need 2-3 defenders & 2-3 midfielders. We have some great talent that needs games like Amad, Hannibal, Pellistri, but like Garnacho, you're never going to get them to this level until you play them. I'd rather 2-1 to Forest seeing young players make mistakes and learn than watch Rashford stroll around counting his 300k a week or Antony being the biggest fraud since Madoff.
As a Chelsea fan, I applaud this comment. It can apply to my team as well unfortunately as I'm not sure the players we've replaced our home growns with are any better. I'm sure many United fans would prefer to have Elanga back over Antony
I agree with most of what you said, except the parts about Bruno and Antony. Bruno has created the most chances in the PL this season (32), except for Trippier (33), and Antony absolutely has that desire and determination that you mentioned, but like you said, United are less of a team, and more of a collective of individuals. I think a lot of United players do lack that aggressive "grittiness" of not knowing where the next paycheck is coming from though, but it's also that they just don't know their next step a lot of the time during a game, and they end up having to look around for a teammate and thinking about their next step, instead of knowing where that teammate is going to be, like Gary mentioned around 3:20.
"Desire" and "determination" are empty words that people with little tactical understanding use to comment on football. What Luton have is a great understanding of defensive responsibilities, closing the pockets and switching on drifting players. Their compact shape allows them to limit passing options on creative players, forcing them into low quality opportunities.
Shows you the importance of a good sporting director rather than letting your own manager pick their former players. UTD need to realize this to keep up and compete with the Big 6 if they want to contend for the title. Otherwise, they will be midtable at best (from a UTD fan).
@@BOMBADIDILAlso ManU scouting said Antony is valued at 25mils, but paid 85mils instead... How is that work 🤣 Well tbh, he wanted Ajax got all the money in the world because the relationship he got...
The issue with ETH is he has an obsession with names rather than the quality of a player. He was obsessed with Dejong rather than trying to identify similar quality in another player. Pep and Klopp are masters at doing it. They don't buy names. They buy the specific qualities.ETH buys the name instead of the qualities he need.
According to an article in the Athletic scouts recommended Anthony was a £25m player. United played 3 times that, which is madness. Had your pants pulled down on this one.
I said this, that he made his name off the back of the Ajax structure. They set the style of play and handled recruitment. Ten Hag came in over his head and wanted to control everything whereas he has never done it before so to do it at a monster institution like Man Utd is insane. Ten Hag needs sacking for that.
He did. At ajax the players eth bought himseld were reserve players sitting on the bench. Overmars was buying the quality players for the first 11. I'm dutch.
How that man’s not been sacked is beyond me. Spent loads and they’ve got no style of play or plan and his choice of captain has been inspirational. Shocking manager.
Youth football isn't something that can be done to get 7 to 9 first team players especially these days Look at barca it took them years to produce gavi and pedri and fergie was lucky he came in with the best youth team in United history
@@guitarreilly Pogba is the only world class talent in my opinion they've produced since and look how that one turned out. They failed to integrate him in the first team, lost him on a free because of perceived personality flaws, then spent £90m to buy him back for him to apparently be a disruptive influence and leave on a free again.
To be honest i was very surprised when Utd gave McClaren a coaching role given his miserable managerial club record over the five or so years leading up to his Utd appointment.
So glad you pointed out the circumstances around the Antony/Casemiro signings, they really highlight the failings of the recruitment department so clearly for anyone who actually wants to look. The only reason it gets overlooked by people is that Casemiro was decent for a few months.
I don't think the issue was signing Casemiro, it's just the amount and how many years contract they gave him, which they will have to pay him large sums now for a further 4 years, when he will he long past his best. He definitely isn't the issue in what is going wrong on the pitch though.
At least Amad is back but Ten Hag is not dropping his favorite sons. We can't even let Onana go because Ten Hag wants his favorites week in week out even tough they are thrash.
Casemiro was arguably our best player last season; I'd go with Martinez, but Bruno, Varane, De Gea and Rashford did well too, yet Casemiro was in the conversation; I don't know why Casemiro is being given as the poor signing example; given how proven he is and the fact that he's played well most of the time. If you're going to mention Ten Hag signing along with Antony talk about Onana and Mount, although of course Mount has been injured and I've not quite given up on him yet, but I've seen enough of Antony and Onana: they will never be good enough.
Because he cost a ridiculous amount of money (both transfer fee and wages) and Utd will be stuck with him til he's 36. It was a horrendous piece of business and one good season doesn't paper over that. Like Neville said, both Casimero and Real Madrid couldn't believe the amount of money Utd were willing to spend to get the deal done.
You're buying Real Madrid's 31 year old leftovers for 65m to be your starting defensive midfielder. No matter how you slice it, how well he played for a single season, it was just a plainly stupid transfer that no other ambitious club would make. It says everything about how United are run.
A couple of of reasons we lost: 1. Horrible defense - 2 goals scored similarly by unmarked attackers 2. Maino coming off 3. Antony offers nothing, Amad was better 4. Bruno running everywhere like a headless chicken, he needs to be disciplined 5. Eriksen is too slow & predictable to be starting for Man U 6. Injuries- we are just missing too many quality players like Licha, Shaw, Casemiro 7. ETH’s tactics - remember when Ole was blamed for lack of a playing style? ETH’s style isn’t clear either 8. Lack of quality - some of our players can’t even put 2-3 passes consecutively & match them with smart movement 9. I don’t wanna blame Onana cause both goals were by unmarked men but that 2nd goal can be saved by better positioning. Not on him tho. 10. Poor form - while Rashy bagged a goal which is good news but he & many other players aren’t still struggling 4 form like Bruno. 11. Slow Starts - Why can’t we be ones to start games aggressively? Too often it seems we wait 4 the opponents to go ahead b4 we start playing meaningful football, again this is on ETH & laziness from certain players.
Gary "At this moment in time At this moment in time At this moment in time At this moment in time At this moment in time At this moment in time At this moment in time At this moment in time At this moment in time At this moment in time At this moment in time At this moment in time At this moment in time At this moment in time At this moment in time At this moment in time" Neville
What I think has 0:15 happened is ed Woodward was the one over seeing signings with no idea what he was doing. Previous managers hardly ever got their targets and was always 2nd 3rd 4th choice players. We never changed for years, then ed Woodward left and Richard Arnold and John murtough went in a different direction and have allowed the manager to have more say on signings cause 1 they ain’t qualified for doing it and 2 they seen ed Woodward make so many mistakes, and this is why 85 million was allowed to be be spent on Antony cause they listened to the manager. Both Systems have failed massively and we need football people handling footballing decisions with a plan in place to get proper United players in with the right attitude and mentality.
I’m so disappointed in Manchester United. This team really breaks my heart. I was considering purchasing some sport related stocks. Besides who trades the financial market?
The club is really tiring. I don’t know if it’s the management but there’s no consistency. I trade the financial market. Which aspect of the financial market are you referring to?
I’m tired of the club performance. I was referring to the stock market but willing to try out other aspects of the financial market. I made gains from Nvidia this year and got my eyes on Solana. How do you trade?
Nvidia was superb this year. I trade based on the season of the market. It gives me a direction on implementing the right strategies for long or short term. I also trade based on the volatility of the market. Although it wasn’t easy till I came across a mentor who helped to keep me in the market loop. My mentor is Bernard Paul.
@@TylerScot- Interesting. This would act like a deciding factor when implementing your strategies. Do you have any factors you consider when purchasing a stock?
-Your time horizon be it short term, Long term or mid term -Your investment strategy, be it value investing, growth or income -Diversification -Share price and intrinsic value, various metrics in determining valuation such as P/E ratio, P/S ratio and P/B ratio -Balance sheet -The size of the company -Volatility -Dividend history -Revenue and Earnings Growth -Preferred or Common stock -Debt to Equity ratio
Wouldn't be surprised to find that ten Hag favours some specific agents when choosing his signings. He made some shocking ones at Ajax too. Actually the best players he had at Ajax were signings made by his predecessors or youth players who had already had their careers launched by Peter Bosz.
Rangnick your correct would never have made all these purchases. Uniteds biggest mistake was sacking him he would have been the perfect director of footblall. He also wanted to make a lot of good signings for relatively cheap, he was a visionary that got ousted for being too honest with the public.
@@musicmusic6595 I heard on German TV that Rangnick left because Ten Hag refused to speak with him. He didn't see the point in staying in an advisory role if his advice wasn't wanted
The idea is to have two players glued to the line on the left and right and Antony just folds in on himself, this teams fundamental attacking tactic is broken due to a lack of 1v1 chance creatios and thats down to the players and managers, the best way to fix this is to change tactic and look for a better way to control the game this can be done thru posession but this team is de d
Casemiro is very important player, considering there is a shortage of defensive midfielders across Europe, and also I think the third place in the primier league table last season may much attributes to the arrival of Casemiro, cause the goals isn't increased but the conceded is decreased a lot. the only shortcoming is he is to expensive，if the transfer fee is under 50m,and the contract is a little shorter such as 3 years,then this will be the most successful deal among the Eric's signing😂
He was sold by Real Madrid because they actually look at statistics properly, they seen how much earlier in games he was picking up yellow cards leading to the obvious conclusion his legs are going and will only get worse, as soon as he has picked up that first 30 minute yellow he becomes a non entity or worse still he carries on tacking which leads to a red and whoever thought Amrabat who can barely complete 45 minutes in serie A could make a difference in the Prem wants imprisoning.
Its not just the signings made under ETH. Man Utd's signings since Ferguson left have ranged from average to awful. No proper sporting director (director of football) and no decent head scouts are the main contributing factor to that. The best one imo was Daly Blind. Excellent at LB, excellent at CB, decent in DM. Consistent, hard working, good attitude, good ability, no ego.
The transfer of Antony went slightly differently. Ajax did not want to sell Antony as there was not enough time to find a suitable replacement. Antony, however, was determined to leave the club, publicly announcing his wishes and his support for ten Hag. Ajax gave in to Antony, but set such a high price to deter Manchester United from buying him. I do believe that most Ajax fans would agree that a figure of €60-80m (with whatever clauses) would have been more than reasonable for Antony that summer, especially based off his performances in the Champions League in the two seasons before. It was somewhat of a shock to see Kudus go to West Ham. He is a ridiculously talented player that should be playing for a Champions League side, and I am sure that West Ham will see a healthy return on investment. I am surprised that ten Hag was so determined to buy Antony, knowing how good Kudus is (if he was so set on buying one if 'his' players). There was speculation in Dutch media that ten Hag wanted to do Ajax a favour, and doing so by paying over the odds for Antony. Ten Hag would have been much wiser to have spent the Antony + Casemiro money on Kudus (or another winger) and Frenkie de Jong. De Jong was far more crucial to ten Hag than Antony was, and he is a more unique and dynamic player to have, especially if ten Hag had decided on not wanting to play like Ajax at United. That is the part that amazes me. Why be so set on buying Antony, if you do not intend to use him in the same system? It does unfortunately lean towards the idea of ten Hag wanting to do Ajax a favour, and hoping that Antony's talent will come through regardless.
He tried to get Frenkie from Barça. But Frenkie prefers the climate in Barcelona above Manchester. And Frenkie is a Barça fan because of Cruijff. So Casemiro was the alternative. But 70 million euros for a player of 30 years is a huge amount. I agree with you on Kudus and the other points👍.
There’s a silent discrimination in football that has more to do with nationality than race. African players are often overlooked and have a very long and arduous journey to get to top clubs. Their European and South American counterparts are often perceived as being better because of the early exposure they get from the Academy’s etc. Anyone who has their eyes open, knew Kudus was a star.
@bartdoorn9635 I think it was also that Frenkie was interested but Barcelona owed him wages, he'd delayed over covid due to barcas poor financial situation and they said if he left he would forfeit them as they were paying it over the remainder of his contract. They refused to pay the sum up front before he would leave and frenkie refused to leave if Barcelona didn't pay up so no deal could be agreed
Interesting take agree for most part apart from de jong only because we were never gonna get him due to his preferences to sum it up, kudus will leave west ham in a few years or so one of the best clubs in the world, his West ham era is about to be a good run can't wait to see more
Fergie had anderson and the twins as fullback, yet managed to win the league. The team still had passion and hunger for the win, even tho they already won numerous throphies. The additional time after 90 minutes was also called "Fergie's time" because miracle usually did happened as the team never give up. I am chelsea fan, really envy of fergie's champion mentallity squad. The days were gone, we have to let it go, but people still would love to see the warrior spirit in the team.
As a Manchester City supporter I can't believe I'm listening to Gary Neville and agree with pretty much everything that he said there. When it comes to analysis and explaining why things work the way they do, he is unequalled, he is the John Madden of football.... If John Madden wasn't dead!
As a Dortmund fan I can identify with this. Apparently our coach was allowed to overrule the scouting in the summer and we ended up with bang average players.
Ten Hag refused to speak Ragnick if you follow what Ragnick had said on German TV. He would have fixed a lot of issues regarding signings had he been DoF
The strategy is the same, worn record. United were the same with previous coach Solskjaer. Win a match and lose five to six matches, and the team is struggling to book a place in the Champions League. The same thing is happening now with Ten Hag.
We keep saying it’s the same players throwing managers under the bus but we keep ignoring each manager seems too add poor signings to the squad and thus the managers are to blame
I'm not disagreeing. But a possible point to prove you wrong is that plenty of players go to United, who were great at their previous clubs or were wanted by the top clubs, and then they start playing horrifically. It's been happening for years.
@@eamonreidy9534who have we signed that were wanted by other top clubs apart from Martinez with arsenal who’s the only good signing we have made under ten hag the money he wasted on onana and mount could of got us kane
When Antony first started he had a good thing of drawing the Lb and cb to him causing him a nice pass to whoever is behind them. He’s even stopped doing that now
Hojlund for 60m is the wildest for me. Nothing against the kid he's not a bad player and has so much pressure on him but he came from a team that finished 5th in Italy with 10 goals in 34 games.... which is about equivocal to 6 or 7 in the premier league. Mad.
Hojlund isnt hold starting line up consistently in atalanta His gosls in serie a is only vs small club, and he perform poor vs big club Then mam utd make crazy vbid for that kind player 😂
@@hoangatngo1811 in futute maybe he will become a great striker Majority of stiriker start to make many goqls at 23 or 24 years old But to buy him with those price at expect him to make many goals is crazy
The Anfield bootroom didn't need a recruitment specialist. Sir Alex didn't need a recruitment specialist. ETH signed players because a) they were Dutch b) he had them at Ajax. His strategy seems to be throw spagetti at the wall and see what sticks.
People (and Ten Hag himself) have said he can't play Ajax-football with this squad. Since he came here 18 months ago, he signed 16 players. Onana, Martinez, Antony, Eriksen and van De Beek are all former Ajax-players. Amrabat is a former player of Ten Hag. He's got players like Dalot, Evans, Shaw, Mainoo, Amad, Pellistri, Højlund and probably others that easily could play that type of football. Most fans expected him to play that type of football, but he doesn't. We got sold a lie! I get that the club hasn't always given him what he wants, but that is not an excuse. He doesn't have to play Bruno as a 10 when he has Eriksen and van De Beek. He doesn't have to play Rashford when we have all these winger-options. We are once again going nowhere and I'm afraid Ten Hag just isn't the manager many thought he would be, including myself.
But Ronaldo and De Gea were the problem. Especially Ronaldo who scored 26 goals in the worst team he’s ever played in. In the most competitive league in the world. Man United’s whole team has scored 22 goals so far this season. Only the bottom two teams have scored less.
Pep Guardiola would have given 100m to Spurs for Kane that year as a manager becasue that’s what he needed and wanted at the time. He had a competent board telling him it doesn’t fit their strategy to spend 100m on a player with the time he had left on his contract and the age of him. That’s how competent owners work with managers, in every part of a successful club it is a team performance. Sometimes you’ll get it wrong and sometimes you won’t, but to keep getting it wrong over and over and over again and not changing strategy is criminal. Competent boards would have sacked every player Mourinho told them wasn’t good enough. They would have listened to Ragnkicks expertise, but instead they let their employees or should I say “assets” rule the roost and turned on managers instead. Don’t let them do it again before the real viruses are cleared before the manager.
The fans R now th problem like this Comment shows. Kane wouldn't touch United with a barge pole When will Man United fans understand that this IS their level, as considered by Players. lots of clubs have an ancient history as World Class level e.g. Villa, Forest, et cetera. The difference is that other clubs fans Realise that tthey are not at th Level they once Were. In Fact,these clubs are better, because Players coming are not just coming for the money, but for ambitdon
Happened at Liverpool in the 90’s and 00’s. Will happen again, football runs in cycles. Ten hag wanted Antony for 40/50mil at the start of the window (he’s not even worth that)! But the core problem is above him.
Ten hag is the one who also pushed for mount. And he's also the one who got the contract offer taken away from de gea as he was adamant he wanted Onana.....Ten hag is a transfer genius 🤣
Casemiro was phenomenal last season, the main reason we won silverware, done well in the league. Statistically he was the best defensive midfielder in the league, so I don't know why he is going on about a proven world class player, we got him at a fair price. Now Anthony has flopped, that was a crazy signing. Mount hasn't played enough yet to sat he is a flop. Hojlund is clearly a great talent, one for the future. Even Pep, Klopp sign flops it happens, but the majority of Ten Hags signings have been good. Onana is having a shaky start, but there is definitely a great keeper there, he is just taking time to settle. Eriksen was another good signing, he has brought through some exciting academy players.
@jssandhu3581 I'm watching football longer than Gary is alive, he isn't a great football analyst. Jamie Carragher has highlighted his lack of football knowledge on many occasions. Just because someone played the sport at a professional level doesn't mean they know everything about said sport.
As a Liverpool fan I look at it this way... You'll never have another Ferguson.. it's exactly what the owners are trying to do...run the club like Ferguson did. That's why the brought in ten hag, he is a manger who will do as he's told..
Only these media pieces keeping them relevant. Yet we are obsessed with them? We definitely have a notch up of a gear for them post-february-march/in the reverse fixture.
Good point Neville regarding the comments with Sir Alex Ferguson with being a chief scout, seeing players himself from all levels. I’m not sure any of the new managers do that. What better way when the manager sees a player he likes first hand and gives it his stamp of approval.
83 million for Antony was insane, but typical of the club, I can't think of any other club that pay such crazy prices for players and their wages, on the flip side they are also terrible when selling players always letting them go too cheaply.
The fact that they could have had him for something like 45 only makes it worse. But, as usual, they waited too long to the point where Ajax had sold off other assets and no longer needed to sell Antony, hence ramping up the price
How anyone could think there could be a role for "The Wally With The Brolly", Steve McClaren, at ANY EPL club is a mystery greater than the Marie Celeste et al!
He won the Treble with Utd and the players said that his coaching was a significant part in achieving that. Ludicrous to scapegoat Mckaren for this mess
The injuries we have had are ridiculous tho. Redknapp mentions hojlund and mount and how they've been poor but they have never been fit. Hojlund finally scores and then gets ill in training. Never once have man utd have had a consistent team it's mental.
@@29memyselfandiElanga is a counter-attacking merchant. ETH gave him heaps of chances last season yet still did nothing he simply isn’t good enough to be a Man United player.
@@willdeal4367 You mustn’t have noticed that Man Utd are a counter attacking team. They never control possession, certainly not against the decent teams. So Elanga would have been perfect. Certainly better than Anthony.
Sick of hearing how every problem is the Glazers fault, we get it they're not great owners but getting sick of hearing it as blanket excuses for any other failings that have also occured
But every Fan of every club wants to watch this! It’s got everything e.g. intrigue, Drama, bemusement, stand-up comedy, etc. and if that isn’t enough, you get to have a good laugh at Gary Neville’s expense. Hell, what more do you want!?
They are Man Utd after all. It's like when Liverpool went through over a decade of so-so results before Klopp arrived. The big name clubs are always of interest even when they're in a big slump
Casemiro is literally our best signing in 10 years. I think his right about Anthony in a sense , it's a confidence issue but jamie trying to scapegoat him is crazy. How haven't they said anything about the scott change? He was at fault for both goals
I don't personally think sacking Erik ten Hag is going to solve anything. The squad at Manchester United has never felt right in several years, with players who I don't think are good enough quality, play too selfishly and also have not gelled as a team. It's a long term project and I think a lot of the team needs changing.
Manchester United is the most consistent team, one win in August, one win in September, one win in October, one win in November, one win in December, it's just like a menstrual cycle!! if they don’t win in January, know that they are pregnant”
Someone said Bruno spends his time every game gegenpressing the ref😭
😂😂😂😂😂
Don’t let this distract you from the fact that Rashford has fed so many children that the Forest keeper decided to return the favour by feeding him a goal….
He crys more than gets goal contributions
😂😂😂😂
He’s so good in that they should extend his contract 🙏
Antony is a special talent.
Cannot dribble, Cannot run, Cannot pass
One of the best conmans in EPL.
Hanniball kk
He’s a confirmed thug from the favelas of Brazil. And an unconfirmed domestic abuser.
The only guy he has beaten this season is TAA, who's basically a traffic cone defensively. He can beat women, but not his fullback.
Cannot score,cannot assist,cannot shoot,cannot dribble...
you must not have seen his spin its awe inspiring. personally i would pay £100m for that spin alone
Ralf Rangnick was right with everything he said.
Spoke facts regarding the state of this once great club and was immediately shunned by the higher ups. They didn’t want to hear the harsh truths - a bit like a majority of the fanbase.
So was Ronaldo
@@Godzzbinzzyou need to move on. Man Utd finished 3rd and won a cup the season they got rid of Ronaldo…who’d scored 1 goal in 10 games himself!
@@GIBBO4182 This will be only thing you celebrate for the coming 10 years. Heads up champ yall just don't know who to blame now
@GIBBO4182 yeah made loads of progress havent they
Elanga sold for 15 million has 10 goals contributions and Antony bought for 85 has zero this season
Exactly and look at Aston Villa under Emery brought both Diaby and Bailey in for less money than Antony and look how well they doing
@@jonathanbowling1900 diaby was the one I wanted when we got Antony. Could not for the life of me understand why we didn't go for him. Bad recruitment again. Same thing when we got di Maria, should have got Pedro or Sanchez
@@jamesbarry9477 thats what i dont get with the transfers of Ten Hag and thinking behind them. U compare other teams and they signings like Moyes at West Ham brought in Alvarez and Kudos from Ajax and Ward Prowse all doing great for around 115M then u have Ten Hag with Antony, Casemiro and Mount around double what West Ham paid recruitment is shocking.
@@jonathanbowling1900 he's out of his depth, simple as that
@@jamesbarry9477 Anthony was a signing-on present for Ten Hag, the club went out and got the man new manager knew and wanted for his system.
Even if Antony was bought at 25M , it would have been an atrocious signing .
ETH worked with him and should have known about his strengths , weaknesses and ability to learn. That shows ETH is incompetent , plus letting Degea go for Onana is another sackable offense.
Thank u, not to mention he wanted a creative mid and signed mason mount.
When maddison and kudos were available and both balling out right now...
The problem is the recruiters seem to think Eredivisie is similar to EPL. Antony did well in a lesser league. It was the same issue with Depay and van de Beek.
A lot of Dutch players went from Eredivisie to EPL and did great. Van Persie and Ruud van Nistelrooy, Jaap Stam, Gini Wijnaldum. Just to name a few. Depay was very young and is now 2nd on the all time topscorers list for the Dutch national team. Donny should’ve never gone to United since Bruno plays in his spot. Watch him quickly become a good player again in Bundesliga. United has too many injuries and the team is lob-sided as a result. Casemiro being gone being the biggest problem.
@@pawldo10_45recruiters you mean Ten Hag he chose the players who work with same agent as him
12 was a good price
I think its important to note that Manchester United had the opportunity to buy Antony earlier that summer. They decided not too, and waited until last minute because the season had started and had no RW. Still shows no real structure to signings or ANYTHING AT ALL.
Indeed and even worse he had at least 4 better wingers than him in Greenwood, Diallo, Sancho and Elanga. Plus playing any Martial, Rashford, Fernandes or Pellistri would provide more than Antony
Had to pop back for an edit cause I forgot about a rather unknown being available also called Cristiano Ronaldo.
I feel sorry for eth but cus that signing is labelled under him as a terrible waste of money when it was really the club instead who sonehow effed up a 35-40 mil Euros deal to 85 million-90 mil pounds. Antony was never worth that much.
@@utdspiritf1virk758Even if he was signed for 25m, he'd still be a waste of money.
Van Der Sar came out and said they were quoting ridiculous amounts for Antony and tried to push United as far as they could go! What a joke Murtough is
@@thebiglebrowski3695 ye but it would have been known as a calculated risk, with also less pressure on antony to deliver on the price.
Gary is crying inside about man united. You can see it hurts him how bad they've become.
And salford
And long may it continue.
@@JohnMurphy-jh1tg Yep, I was just thinking that.
Only good thing about Man United is they cure millions of depressed people over the world….
Salford going down 🙏
Subbing off Mainoo for McTom was a baffling decision, I think Ten Hag is actually trying to get sacked at this point.
Mctominay is their top scorer ofc its a good decision
@@pacyguy7144 McTom was never and will never be good enough to play for Man United. He scored a few goals, big deal. He's a player that can be a good player at Burnley or Luton but not at Man United.
West ham @@matekraljevic5149
Mctominay is not a holding midfielder
He probably is!
Astonishing that Bellingham aged 20 has more professional maturity than Rashford at 26.
Rashford needs to be part of a clearout
He’s just a better player
Bellingham is in another level as a player. He is a real winner and he has ambitious in
@@marvinbrando722 Real winners go to Real madrid, Trash Fords stay at the Trash Club.
Jude LOVE the game. and as Ambition. Rashy love the money and Fashion. simple as that
As an Ajax fan I saw this coming. He wasn't even up to the standard of the group of players we had just before him (Neres, Ziyech...). Vd Beek was top top class at Ajax in that group as well, if he didn't make it at Utd then I truly don't understand how they thought Antony would.
Wat lul je nou? Hij speelde Neres uit de basis en was grandioos in de Champions League-groepsfase waarin Ajax ALLES won?!?!
Hey dude, what do you think drove Antony’s price so high ? Was it mostly panic buy syndrome ?
@@dogdog2635it was the end of the transferwindow. He was allowed to go in the beginning of the window for 40 mil but UTD didnt want to spend it on him untill they lost their first 2 games.
@@dogdog2635it was the end of the transferwindow. He was allowed to go in the beginning of the window. for 40 mil but UTD didnt want to spend it on him untill they lost their first 2 games.
Former Ajax manager thought he'd work, utd would never had bought him without Ten Hag
It is shocking that a winger signed for over £85 M to play for Manchester United needs pundits to tell him how to play in the wing!
And that to a RB pundit needs to tell him
🤣🤦♂️
I actually dont think hes a winger. He doesnt have the pace or dribbling. His first touch is brilliant, he can do little flicks, hes got a wand of a left foot. He should be an AM.
Elanga is a better winger.
@@tc98826I don't think he should be a utd player full stop.. go back to the Dutch league where he can do his little flicks
United fans and the board didn't realise that the football last season was terrible as well but they got bailed out so many times by Rashford having a fluke season and De Gea making match winning saves
Also teams like Liverpool and Spurs had bad seasons. If they had even mid seasons United would be like sixth at best.
Facts!!
I said the football was terrible last season. Ppl laughed. Not laughing now. De gea saved us at least 15 points
@@incognito96 De Gea is a legend. I don't feel like the fans value his contributions enough
Why cut the last string when we let de gea go.
Ajax valued Antony at 25 million, United didn’t want to buy him at that point, they then panicked and got slammed with 80 mill
And even then i wouldn't say he's worth that amount for what's he been contributing to the team since his arrival.
Msn Utd want wingers but are not making bids for them. Chukuweze went to Milan. Bailey went to Villa. I am sure they did not make a offer or even asked if they were available. Even Doku joined City without any interest from Man Utd.
Best player they bought was Mason Mount. His been outstanding this season. As a Chelsea fan, I really do miss him. Haven't seen him in ages
It was never £25m. You are talking shite
@@5thdawg917I really don't think Chelsea fans are in much of a position to criticise about wasting money on players, eh?
EtH clearly overrides all decisions pertaining new signings! The fact that he decided against Ralf Rangnick being a central figure for recruitment was a huge red flag! Rangnick, despite his awful coaching was absolutely fantastic in analysing, dissecting and pulling potential solutions to the clubs problems.
Brilliant comment...Ten Hag has an over estimated opinion of his coaching and managerial skills
Was it him decided against Ragnick or was it the club? Think Ragnick was too honest and the board didn't like it
@Fatmac11 ETH wouldn't meet with him
Awful coaching?? He's been doing pretty good for Austria. United was the problem yet again
Not keeping him was a huge error he's good in recruitment
You can look at teams 2 ways, the collective 11 or the individuals. Time and time again a team like Luton can drag top teams to the wire, if not beat them, but individually there is nobody a top team would sign. That's because they have what most of the teams in the league don't have, United being the prime example, which is desire, determination and everything else you would want from your club. The problem then becomes you rely on individual skill for moments in a match to save a win or a draw and Garnacho has been one of those players, McTominay in a few games too and Bruno at the start of the season. But that is never ever going to be good enough. So we can't come on here and say we need a new winger or a new keeper or a new central midfielder, because they're just replacing cogs in a broken gearbox, the entire club and team needs a retrofit. We need 2-3 defenders & 2-3 midfielders. We have some great talent that needs games like Amad, Hannibal, Pellistri, but like Garnacho, you're never going to get them to this level until you play them. I'd rather 2-1 to Forest seeing young players make mistakes and learn than watch Rashford stroll around counting his 300k a week or Antony being the biggest fraud since Madoff.
As a Chelsea fan, I applaud this comment. It can apply to my team as well unfortunately as I'm not sure the players we've replaced our home growns with are any better. I'm sure many United fans would prefer to have Elanga back over Antony
I agree with most of what you said, except the parts about Bruno and Antony.
Bruno has created the most chances in the PL this season (32), except for Trippier (33), and Antony absolutely has that desire and determination that you mentioned, but like you said, United are less of a team, and more of a collective of individuals.
I think a lot of United players do lack that aggressive "grittiness" of not knowing where the next paycheck is coming from though, but it's also that they just don't know their next step a lot of the time during a game, and they end up having to look around for a teammate and thinking about their next step, instead of knowing where that teammate is going to be, like Gary mentioned around 3:20.
absolutely!
We've had some bad wingers in our time like macheda, obertan and sanchez but Anthony is the worse for the price we paid.
"Desire" and "determination" are empty words that people with little tactical understanding use to comment on football. What Luton have is a great understanding of defensive responsibilities, closing the pockets and switching on drifting players. Their compact shape allows them to limit passing options on creative players, forcing them into low quality opportunities.
i still remember when jurgen klopp wanted julian Brandt but our sporting director said NO and brought MO Salah and rest is history.
If I've heard correctly, he also wanted a former Dortmund player over Sadio Mane but Michael Edwards said no
Shows you the importance of a good sporting director rather than letting your own manager pick their former players. UTD need to realize this to keep up and compete with the Big 6 if they want to contend for the title. Otherwise, they will be midtable at best (from a UTD fan).
@@jamesduffy7549 Gotze
And our manager wanted mount and our sporting director said, “will £50mil + addons do?” 😂
@@BOMBADIDILAlso ManU scouting said Antony is valued at 25mils, but paid 85mils instead... How is that work 🤣 Well tbh, he wanted Ajax got all the money in the world because the relationship he got...
Diallo done more in ten mins than Antony in 10 games
10 games you say ....stats point out that he only has 1 goal in 2023 the whole year
As a Sunderland fan Diallo is way better than Antonty
33*
Anthony should be sold ,it's that simple .The guy can never be a top player .
Diallo isn't good enough either simple as that
Antony at £86 million is a joke
Ajax CFO laughing the loudest
Beats more Women than Fullbacks
And Forest bought Elanga for 15 million 😮
Club's fault for dragging their feet and then getting stuck with a hefty tab for Antony. He was worth maybe 33% of that price.
As a Liverpool fan I must say it’s a belter 😂
The issue with ETH is he has an obsession with names rather than the quality of a player. He was obsessed with Dejong rather than trying to identify similar quality in another player. Pep and Klopp are masters at doing it. They don't buy names. They buy the specific qualities.ETH buys the name instead of the qualities he need.
That's because Pep and Klopp have a whole (competent) team around them to enable that process to happen
Spot on. You said it all
There isnt another De Jong. De Jong has a very unique skillset
@@unwound9343 There are many players with similar qualities ie. Koopminers, Bisuma, kimich, Enzo, Lavia etc.
No they’re not they got scouts that look for similar players klop and pep don’t do their own scouting
According to an article in the Athletic scouts recommended Anthony was a £25m player. United played 3 times that, which is madness. Had your pants pulled down on this one.
And I don't think we can sell him at that 25m today
Erik Ten Hag can’t be trusted with transfer targets. The players he bought don’t marry up with his very own football philosophy!
let me correct your statement. Erik Ten Hag cant be trusted. There fixed it
Yep, so why did they buy Antony & why pay so much over his value? Something about it looks suspicious to me.
@@MikeC77 it's obvious why 85M is paid to Ajax, a Dutch club where Ten hag comes from!
Because the board didnt buy his first choice signings.
@jawtiks618 so who are his first choice signing?
One of the Ajax fans said Ten Hag did exactly that at Axax until they put ovarmars in as The Director of Football.
I said this, that he made his name off the back of the Ajax structure. They set the style of play and handled recruitment. Ten Hag came in over his head and wanted to control everything whereas he has never done it before so to do it at a monster institution like Man Utd is insane. Ten Hag needs sacking for that.
ten Hag is really only a coach
He did. At ajax the players eth bought himseld were reserve players sitting on the bench. Overmars was buying the quality players for the first 11. I'm dutch.
How that man’s not been sacked is beyond me.
Spent loads and they’ve got no style of play or plan and his choice of captain has been inspirational. Shocking manager.
First united manager to win united their first trophy in nearly 6 years, he's that guy
I agree 👍🏻
@@pacyguy7144it was 5
@@pacyguy7144beating absolutely nobody in doing so. It papered over massive cracks nothing more
@@pacyguy7144mourinho one us 3 so get out of the chat
I would run with Amad, Garnacho and Hojlund as my the front 3. Who cares if we lose. Those 3 are talented and actually have a future
Me too on to the future
Agree if the rebuild is actually happening I'd start them
Ain't Antony part of your future?
Ralf Ragnick we have forgiveness to ask of you.
The most important man at Man U during Fergusons time was the youth team coach. He delivered 7 to 9 first team players
Yes why is that? Because Ferguson came in and one of the first thing he done is to make the sure the youth set up is drastically improved
Youth football isn't something that can be done to get 7 to 9 first team players especially these days
Look at barca it took them years to produce gavi and pedri and fergie was lucky he came in with the best youth team in United history
The class of 92 was a one off. How many other yiuth okayers came after them who were genuinely world class? Its pot luck most of the time
@@guitarreilly Pogba is the only world class talent in my opinion they've produced since and look how that one turned out. They failed to integrate him in the first team, lost him on a free because of perceived personality flaws, then spent £90m to buy him back for him to apparently be a disruptive influence and leave on a free again.
To be honest i was very surprised when Utd gave McClaren a coaching role given his miserable managerial club record over the five or so years leading up to his Utd appointment.
United became so good that even the rival supporters love them. Pure class
Gary Neville said this United team will let you down... They haven't let me down at all 😂😂😂
Great to see
Or let Gary down....they met his expectations perfectly! 🤣
Hauteur Hanniball kk
They let you down last week right?
Love to see it 🎉
Anthony is Absolutely stealing a living
Along with Rashford
So glad you pointed out the circumstances around the Antony/Casemiro signings, they really highlight the failings of the recruitment department so clearly for anyone who actually wants to look. The only reason it gets overlooked by people is that Casemiro was decent for a few months.
Casemiro won 5 champions league winner and he is the problem 😂😂😂 man utd get what they deserve keep that manager for 10 years
@@hargihhe didnt alone. Its pretty obvious it was everyone around him that made him look good, hes been average at best
@@StonedCabbage Casemiro average 😂😂😂😂😂? Casemiro has a bigger Champions League legacy than Man United
I don't think the issue was signing Casemiro, it's just the amount and how many years contract they gave him, which they will have to pay him large sums now for a further 4 years, when he will he long past his best.
He definitely isn't the issue in what is going wrong on the pitch though.
@@EliasRoybro, casemiro is a great dmf. But it doesnt make sense to compare a player legacy to a club one. Its not apple to apple
Seeing Antony play makes me miss Dan James. Gave it his all every time and could actually beat his man
Ralf Ragnick we have forgiveness to ask of you.
Dan James was another awful winger. Seeing Anthony makes me miss prime cristiano Ronaldo at Utd or Ryan giggs
At least Amad is back but Ten Hag is not dropping his favorite sons. We can't even let Onana go because Ten Hag wants his favorites week in week out even tough they are thrash.
@@elvisoteki6495 i do believe his favourites will come good but man they need to get their heads together asap
Casemiro was arguably our best player last season; I'd go with Martinez, but Bruno, Varane, De Gea and Rashford did well too, yet Casemiro was in the conversation; I don't know why Casemiro is being given as the poor signing example; given how proven he is and the fact that he's played well most of the time. If you're going to mention Ten Hag signing along with Antony talk about Onana and Mount, although of course Mount has been injured and I've not quite given up on him yet, but I've seen enough of Antony and Onana: they will never be good enough.
Because he cost a ridiculous amount of money (both transfer fee and wages) and Utd will be stuck with him til he's 36. It was a horrendous piece of business and one good season doesn't paper over that. Like Neville said, both Casimero and Real Madrid couldn't believe the amount of money Utd were willing to spend to get the deal done.
Bruno is poor
Casimeiro waste of money
Martial waste of money
Rest of the team waste of time.
You're buying Real Madrid's 31 year old leftovers for 65m to be your starting defensive midfielder. No matter how you slice it, how well he played for a single season, it was just a plainly stupid transfer that no other ambitious club would make. It says everything about how United are run.
Casemiro´s legs have gone. His performances in early season proved that. We should also not forget his red cards.
A couple of of reasons we lost:
1. Horrible defense - 2 goals scored similarly by unmarked attackers
2. Maino coming off
3. Antony offers nothing, Amad was better
4. Bruno running everywhere like a headless chicken, he needs to be disciplined
5. Eriksen is too slow & predictable to be starting for Man U
6. Injuries- we are just missing too many quality players like Licha, Shaw, Casemiro
7. ETH’s tactics - remember when Ole was blamed for lack of a playing style? ETH’s style isn’t clear either
8. Lack of quality - some of our players can’t even put 2-3 passes consecutively & match them with smart movement
9. I don’t wanna blame Onana cause both goals were by unmarked men but that 2nd goal can be saved by better positioning. Not on him tho.
10. Poor form - while Rashy bagged a goal which is good news but he & many other players aren’t still struggling 4 form like Bruno.
11. Slow Starts - Why can’t we be ones to start games aggressively? Too often it seems we wait 4 the opponents to go ahead b4 we start playing meaningful football, again this is on ETH & laziness from certain players.
Stopped reading when you called Shaw a quality player.
Have some shame.
ETHs style is plenty clear, it isnt working right now, but it’s fairly clear what he want to do.
Yeah putting Luke Shaw next to Casemiro & Martinez is crazy beloved. His apart of the issues this club faces
Forgot to mention took mainoo off for mcsauce who's at fault for both goals
@@shoebpatel8419 that was literally number 2
Gary "At this moment in time At this moment in time At this moment in time At this moment in time At this moment in time At this moment in time At this moment in time At this moment in time At this moment in time At this moment in time At this moment in time At this moment in time At this moment in time At this moment in time At this moment in time At this moment in time" Neville
Gary “in 12 to 18 months time” Neville
😂😂😂
Gary “This is Manchester Utd” Neville
'at a point whereby'
Ooooooo when there’s a VAR review 😂😂
Gary got it spot on. Similar condition at Chelsea but Poch can turn it around once we have everyone fit
What I think has 0:15 happened is ed Woodward was the one over seeing signings with no idea what he was doing. Previous managers hardly ever got their targets and was always 2nd 3rd 4th choice players. We never changed for years, then ed Woodward left and Richard Arnold and John murtough went in a different direction and have allowed the manager to have more say on signings cause 1 they ain’t qualified for doing it and 2 they seen ed Woodward make so many mistakes, and this is why 85 million was allowed to be be spent on Antony cause they listened to the manager. Both Systems have failed massively and we need football people handling footballing decisions with a plan in place to get proper United players in with the right attitude and mentality.
That performance and then Jamie redknapp as the pundit, what did we do to deserve this
In previous seasons it was Sourness…..at least Redknapp doesn’t keep talking about Liverpool when they’re not even playing
Jamie Redknapp actually seems to be the common man that asks the appropriate questions.
😂😂😂
@@shreyaa72081 hi, how are you
Jamie Redknapp is very underrated.
Very capable of critical thinking and very good at bringing his point across.
Needs to be on here more often tbh
1 goal in 33 games in 2023 is absolutely criminal for a player brought in for 85 million pounds
I’m so disappointed in Manchester United. This team really breaks my heart. I was considering purchasing some sport related stocks. Besides who trades the financial market?
The club is really tiring. I don’t know if it’s the management but there’s no consistency. I trade the financial market. Which aspect of the financial market are you referring to?
I’m tired of the club performance. I was referring to the stock market but willing to try out other aspects of the financial market. I made gains from Nvidia this year and got my eyes on Solana. How do you trade?
Nvidia was superb this year. I trade based on the season of the market. It gives me a direction on implementing the right strategies for long or short term. I also trade based on the volatility of the market. Although it wasn’t easy till I came across a mentor who helped to keep me in the market loop. My mentor is Bernard Paul.
@@TylerScot- Interesting. This would act like a deciding factor when implementing your strategies. Do you have any factors you consider when purchasing a stock?
-Your time horizon be it short term, Long term or mid term
-Your investment strategy, be it value investing, growth or income
-Diversification
-Share price and intrinsic value, various metrics in determining valuation such as P/E ratio, P/S ratio and P/B ratio
-Balance sheet
-The size of the company
-Volatility
-Dividend history
-Revenue and Earnings Growth
-Preferred or Common stock
-Debt to Equity ratio
This is classic and great interview from G.Nev!! 💥
Wouldn't be surprised to find that ten Hag favours some specific agents when choosing his signings. He made some shocking ones at Ajax too. Actually the best players he had at Ajax were signings made by his predecessors or youth players who had already had their careers launched by Peter Bosz.
who were those shocking signings at ajax?
@@djsilversun Antony 🤣🤣🤣 He bought the guy twice.
Imagine how different things would be if United kept Ragnick in charge of the building process, no way he would have signed a lot of these players.
If United kept OGS and still had De Gea, Pogba, Ronaldo - they 100% would be higher in the league now
Rangnick > Seven Fraud
Rangnick your correct would never have made all these purchases. Uniteds biggest mistake was sacking him he would have been the perfect director of footblall. He also wanted to make a lot of good signings for relatively cheap, he was a visionary that got ousted for being too honest with the public.
@@musicmusic6595 I heard on German TV that Rangnick left because Ten Hag refused to speak with him. He didn't see the point in staying in an advisory role if his advice wasn't wanted
Hanniball kk
The idea is to have two players glued to the line on the left and right and Antony just folds in on himself, this teams fundamental attacking tactic is broken due to a lack of 1v1 chance creatios and thats down to the players and managers, the best way to fix this is to change tactic and look for a better way to control the game this can be done thru posession but this team is de d
This is the most conherent I've ever seen Jamie Redknapp speak
And he still manages to butcher an obvious point
Casemiro is very important player, considering there is a shortage of defensive midfielders across Europe, and also I think the third place in the primier league table last season may much attributes to the arrival of Casemiro, cause the goals isn't increased but the conceded is decreased a lot. the only shortcoming is he is to expensive，if the transfer fee is under 50m,and the contract is a little shorter such as 3 years,then this will be the most successful deal among the Eric's signing😂
Hes too old. Should never have been bought for that amount
Casmeiro is alright. he needs fresh legs or skill around him to give great performances.
@@thetruth3462 he’s not too old he’s 30.
He was sold by Real Madrid because they actually look at statistics properly, they seen how much earlier in games he was picking up yellow cards leading to the obvious conclusion his legs are going and will only get worse, as soon as he has picked up that first 30 minute yellow he becomes a non entity or worse still he carries on tacking which leads to a red and whoever thought Amrabat who can barely complete 45 minutes in serie A could make a difference in the Prem wants imprisoning.
Ralf Ragnick we have forgiveness to ask of you.
Gary Neville is Absolutely Spot On!
Its not just the signings made under ETH. Man Utd's signings since Ferguson left have ranged from average to awful. No proper sporting director (director of football) and no decent head scouts are the main contributing factor to that. The best one imo was Daly Blind. Excellent at LB, excellent at CB, decent in DM. Consistent, hard working, good attitude, good ability, no ego.
Correct.!
Mkhitaryan was great too
@SpiceOfLife2005 no he wasn't 😂
Pogba was good he just didn't really fit into the system.
The best young players or players aged 23-26 who are on the verge of being world class don’t want to come to us any more.
The transfer of Antony went slightly differently.
Ajax did not want to sell Antony as there was not enough time to find a suitable replacement. Antony, however, was determined to leave the club, publicly announcing his wishes and his support for ten Hag. Ajax gave in to Antony, but set such a high price to deter Manchester United from buying him.
I do believe that most Ajax fans would agree that a figure of €60-80m (with whatever clauses) would have been more than reasonable for Antony that summer, especially based off his performances in the Champions League in the two seasons before.
It was somewhat of a shock to see Kudus go to West Ham. He is a ridiculously talented player that should be playing for a Champions League side, and I am sure that West Ham will see a healthy return on investment. I am surprised that ten Hag was so determined to buy Antony, knowing how good Kudus is (if he was so set on buying one if 'his' players).
There was speculation in Dutch media that ten Hag wanted to do Ajax a favour, and doing so by paying over the odds for Antony. Ten Hag would have been much wiser to have spent the Antony + Casemiro money on Kudus (or another winger) and Frenkie de Jong. De Jong was far more crucial to ten Hag than Antony was, and he is a more unique and dynamic player to have, especially if ten Hag had decided on not wanting to play like Ajax at United.
That is the part that amazes me. Why be so set on buying Antony, if you do not intend to use him in the same system? It does unfortunately lean towards the idea of ten Hag wanting to do Ajax a favour, and hoping that Antony's talent will come through regardless.
He tried to get Frenkie from Barça. But Frenkie prefers the climate in Barcelona above Manchester. And Frenkie is a Barça fan because of Cruijff. So Casemiro was the alternative. But 70 million euros for a player of 30 years is a huge amount. I agree with you on Kudus and the other points👍.
There’s a silent discrimination in football that has more to do with nationality than race. African players are often overlooked and have a very long and arduous journey to get to top clubs. Their European and South American counterparts are often perceived as being better because of the early exposure they get from the Academy’s etc. Anyone who has their eyes open, knew Kudus was a star.
@bartdoorn9635 I think it was also that Frenkie was interested but Barcelona owed him wages, he'd delayed over covid due to barcas poor financial situation and they said if he left he would forfeit them as they were paying it over the remainder of his contract. They refused to pay the sum up front before he would leave and frenkie refused to leave if Barcelona didn't pay up so no deal could be agreed
Agree with Kudos but not Dejong. Everyone knows dejong didn’t want to leave Barcelona
Interesting take agree for most part apart from de jong only because we were never gonna get him due to his preferences to sum it up, kudus will leave west ham in a few years or so one of the best clubs in the world, his West ham era is about to be a good run can't wait to see more
Why do people keep banging on about the Ferguson era? It ended over a decade ago.
Mainly because its the last time United were good. United are basically the first Premier League giants to crumble
@@ThatGuyHelm Arsenal haven’t won a title for 20 years.
@@London666_UKThe expectations at Manchester united and arsenal are different
Fergie had anderson and the twins as fullback, yet managed to win the league. The team still had passion and hunger for the win, even tho they already won numerous throphies. The additional time after 90 minutes was also called "Fergie's time" because miracle usually did happened as the team never give up. I am chelsea fan, really envy of fergie's champion mentallity squad.
The days were gone, we have to let it go, but people still would love to see the warrior spirit in the team.
As a Manchester City supporter I can't believe I'm listening to Gary Neville and agree with pretty much everything that he said there. When it comes to analysis and explaining why things work the way they do, he is unequalled, he is the John Madden of football.... If John Madden wasn't dead!
Even a broken clock gives the correct time twice a day. Neville is the equivalent of that broken clock.
Gary neville Slagged Casmeiro De Gea and Ronaldo.Shows why he could never be a top manager.
Do you agree that Guardiola wasted money on multiple signings?
As a Dortmund fan I can identify with this. Apparently our coach was allowed to overrule the scouting in the summer and we ended up with bang average players.
Ten Hag refused to speak Ragnick if you follow what Ragnick had said on German TV. He would have fixed a lot of issues regarding signings had he been DoF
He would of sussed eric thin ice out as well.
The strategy is the same, worn record. United were the same with previous coach Solskjaer. Win a match and lose five to six matches, and the team is struggling to book a place in the Champions League. The same thing is happening now with Ten Hag.
We keep saying it’s the same players throwing managers under the bus but we keep ignoring each manager seems too add poor signings to the squad and thus the managers are to blame
I'm not disagreeing. But a possible point to prove you wrong is that plenty of players go to United, who were great at their previous clubs or were wanted by the top clubs, and then they start playing horrifically. It's been happening for years.
@@eamonreidy9534 that makes them poor signings as they didn’t deliver…
@@civildiscourse7626 are there good signings for united at this point
@@eamonreidy9534who have we signed that were wanted by other top clubs apart from Martinez with arsenal who’s the only good signing we have made under ten hag the money he wasted on onana and mount could of got us kane
@@phildixon5769 spurs did not want to sell to a prem club
When Antony first started he had a good thing of drawing the Lb and cb to him causing him a nice pass to whoever is behind them. He’s even stopped doing that now
Hojlund for 60m is the wildest for me. Nothing against the kid he's not a bad player and has so much pressure on him but he came from a team that finished 5th in Italy with 10 goals in 34 games.... which is about equivocal to 6 or 7 in the premier league. Mad.
Hojlund isnt hold starting line up consistently in atalanta
His gosls in serie a is only vs small club, and he perform poor vs big club
Then mam utd make crazy vbid for that kind player 😂
@@brorob2582 Yeah, he's worth at best 35m to me 😂, and I don't even think he's good enough for man utd to be fair 😅
@@hoangatngo1811 in futute maybe he will become a great striker
Majority of stiriker start to make many goqls at 23 or 24 years old
But to buy him with those price at expect him to make many goals is crazy
Choose holund over harry kane
@@kendyjapri1559 thats just not true is it
I'm glad he mentioned the context behind the Casimero and Antony signings with the results. Panic signings to appease the fans.
Casemiro has been our best player
@@jacob4690 hahahaha, his legs have gone!!!!!
@@jacob4690doesn’t change the fact that casemiro was brought in with no long term plan
You celebrated him last season
@@polaris7122 how?
Agree 100% with Gary here. The club is in huge turmoil right now behind the scenes.
The Anfield bootroom didn't need a recruitment specialist. Sir Alex didn't need a recruitment specialist. ETH signed players because a) they were Dutch b) he had them at Ajax. His strategy seems to be throw spagetti at the wall and see what sticks.
Casemiro.. Mount.. Ronaldo.. Hoijlund..
Weghorst, Antony, Malaccia, Martinez, Onana but I get your point.@@jayd.o.t
@@jayd.o.t Mount played in Holland, Hoijlund signed with under Ten Hags family. Cr7 was bought under Ole.
@@kase121 ah Okay
Don't forget his obsession with Frenkie de jong
People (and Ten Hag himself) have said he can't play Ajax-football with this squad. Since he came here 18 months ago, he signed 16 players. Onana, Martinez, Antony, Eriksen and van De Beek are all former Ajax-players. Amrabat is a former player of Ten Hag. He's got players like Dalot, Evans, Shaw, Mainoo, Amad, Pellistri, Højlund and probably others that easily could play that type of football. Most fans expected him to play that type of football, but he doesn't. We got sold a lie! I get that the club hasn't always given him what he wants, but that is not an excuse. He doesn't have to play Bruno as a 10 when he has Eriksen and van De Beek. He doesn't have to play Rashford when we have all these winger-options. We are once again going nowhere and I'm afraid Ten Hag just isn't the manager many thought he would be, including myself.
Ralf Ragnick we have forgiveness to ask of you.
He does have to play Bruno and Rashford unfortunately.
@@zinedinezidane4771 Unfortunatly, I think you are right.
Which means we will not go anywhere.
Neville knows his stuff
Excellent summary of United’s problems by Neville.
Everyone's fault apart from the players and manager 😂 . Yeah excellent summary 😂
Spot on they are shocking signings
But Ronaldo and De Gea were the problem. Especially Ronaldo who scored 26 goals in the worst team he’s ever played in. In the most competitive league in the world. Man United’s whole team has scored 22 goals so far this season. Only the bottom two teams have scored less.
ETH needs to come to the realization that Antony is sunk cost and move on accordingly, the sooner the better.
I agree with Gary. Times have changed. It was manger vs manager in recruitment. Now it’s a world of DOF’s vs ten hag.
Eric Ten Hag knew Antony from his Ajax days. This one is on him
Wish I could blow that kind of money at my job on a vanity purchase and not get the sack.
And Onana
As a Liverpool fan this result as made me laugh thank you forest
Pep Guardiola would have given 100m to Spurs for Kane that year as a manager becasue that’s what he needed and wanted at the time. He had a competent board telling him it doesn’t fit their strategy to spend 100m on a player with the time he had left on his contract and the age of him. That’s how competent owners work with managers, in every part of a successful club it is a team performance. Sometimes you’ll get it wrong and sometimes you won’t, but to keep getting it wrong over and over and over again and not changing strategy is criminal. Competent boards would have sacked every player Mourinho told them wasn’t good enough. They would have listened to Ragnkicks expertise, but instead they let their employees or should I say “assets” rule the roost and turned on managers instead. Don’t let them do it again before the real viruses are cleared before the manager.
no spurs said no. they were ready to pay, spurs not ready to sell.
The fans R now th problem like this Comment shows. Kane wouldn't touch United with a barge pole When will Man United fans understand that this IS their level, as considered by Players. lots of clubs have an ancient history as World Class level e.g. Villa, Forest, et cetera.
The difference is that other clubs fans Realise that tthey are not at th Level they once Were. In Fact,these clubs are better, because Players coming are not just coming for the money, but for ambitdon
Well said TBF sir!
@@khadarb4745spurs wanted 150m and city were not ready to pay ....city will not over pay a single dime above their valuation that they have set
Actually, as somebody else has said, the £100m was rejected and then City upped to £123m and that was also a rejected. At that point city walked away
Thank You Mr Levy for Ange. United fans envy such a manager.
I think Antony would be better on the left and Garnacho on the right. Atleast give it a try.
I think he’d be better in the reserves shocking player
@@mybestofriendo4615 🤣
Antony is $850,000 TOPS dead serious
Take off the 3 zeros and you're in the right ball park 😅😅😅😅😅😅
Seen better players at my local 5 a side
Happened at Liverpool in the 90’s and 00’s. Will happen again, football runs in cycles. Ten hag wanted Antony for 40/50mil at the start of the window (he’s not even worth that)! But the core problem is above him.
Ten hag is the one who also pushed for mount. And he's also the one who got the contract offer taken away from de gea as he was adamant he wanted Onana.....Ten hag is a transfer genius 🤣
That's a good idea Gary, move the posts for Anthony! 😀
Casemiro was phenomenal last season, the main reason we won silverware, done well in the league. Statistically he was the best defensive midfielder in the league, so I don't know why he is going on about a proven world class player, we got him at a fair price. Now Anthony has flopped, that was a crazy signing. Mount hasn't played enough yet to sat he is a flop. Hojlund is clearly a great talent, one for the future. Even Pep, Klopp sign flops it happens, but the majority of Ten Hags signings have been good. Onana is having a shaky start, but there is definitely a great keeper there, he is just taking time to settle. Eriksen was another good signing, he has brought through some exciting academy players.
ETH has signed as many flops in 2 seasons as Pep and Kloop have in their entire tenures
Gary Neville knows more than u mate. U have no clue
@jssandhu3581 I'm watching football longer than Gary is alive, he isn't a great football analyst. Jamie Carragher has highlighted his lack of football knowledge on many occasions. Just because someone played the sport at a professional level doesn't mean they know everything about said sport.
Spot on Gary Neville. Well spoken.
As a Liverpool fan I look at it this way... You'll never have another Ferguson.. it's exactly what the owners are trying to do...run the club like Ferguson did. That's why the brought in ten hag, he is a manger who will do as he's told..
They are just incompetent
It's that simple
All they need to do is hire a top DOF
Only these media pieces keeping them relevant. Yet we are obsessed with them? We definitely have a notch up of a gear for them post-february-march/in the reverse fixture.
Good point Neville regarding the comments with Sir Alex Ferguson with being a chief scout, seeing players himself from all levels. I’m not sure any of the new managers do that. What better way when the manager sees a player he likes first hand and gives it his stamp of approval.
The DOF should be in charge of signings not the manager /coach
Erik Ten year contract please🤪
Very right Garry Neville about the price of Antony and style of play. Very honest.
Their 0-0 at Anfield was their best result all season.
We get to play them in ' their fortress' again this season
Rashford looked pretty happy at the end...almost like his goal lets him off the hook with Utd fans for once.
I’m alright jack
83 million for Antony was insane, but typical of the club, I can't think of any other club that pay such crazy prices for players and their wages, on the flip side they are also terrible when selling players always letting them go too cheaply.
The fact that they could have had him for something like 45 only makes it worse. But, as usual, they waited too long to the point where Ajax had sold off other assets and no longer needed to sell Antony, hence ramping up the price
Gary's face at 8:54 sums up Man Utd.
These 3 brazilians Raphinia,Antony and Richarlison are just flashy players for both country and Club.
It’s a myth that all Mahrez could do is cut in, he had an ok right foot and he’d often go on the outside because they were scared of him cutting in
Gary “at this moment in time it’s the glazer’s fault” Neville
How anyone could think there could be a role for "The Wally With The Brolly", Steve McClaren, at ANY EPL club is a mystery greater than the Marie Celeste et al!
😂 Bring in Southgate next
Schteeve.
At least the Wally have won the league in Europe
@@Richard.oo7😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Twente - I remember
He won the Treble with Utd and the players said that his coaching was a significant part in achieving that. Ludicrous to scapegoat Mckaren for this mess
Antony's value was overinflated. Anyone paying attention knew that. I look at him as a $30M player. That current price tag didn't do him any favours.
i look at him as Chesterfield player at best
@@mellomafia98 😂😂
If there is one pundit totally unqualified to comment on a managers performance either signings or otherwise its Gary 'Seville Salford' Neville
The injuries we have had are ridiculous tho. Redknapp mentions hojlund and mount and how they've been poor but they have never been fit. Hojlund finally scores and then gets ill in training. Never once have man utd have had a consistent team it's mental.
still laughing about Man U paying 100 million for Anthony.....love from Amsterdam!!
And got rid of Elanga. Forest bought him for 15 million 😮
@@29memyselfandiElanga is a counter-attacking merchant. ETH gave him heaps of chances last season yet still did nothing he simply isn’t good enough to be a Man United player.
@@willdeal4367 You mustn’t have noticed that Man Utd are a counter attacking team. They never control possession, certainly not against the decent teams. So Elanga would have been perfect. Certainly better than Anthony.
PSA:
Let’s all work together to ensure Manchester United lose 20 league games this season 🙌🏾👐🏾💯
As a palace fan, I think olise would be such a good replacement at united
Top prospect. Him and Eze would walk into this team. However they are more likely to develop under Hodgeson than coming to this shower
He is coming 😊
Andre Kanchelskis and Ryan Giggs were United's best wingers right and left in the mid 1990s.
Sick of hearing how every problem is the Glazers fault, we get it they're not great owners but getting sick of hearing it as blanket excuses for any other failings that have also occured
it’s crazy cos he was never this bad last season no way, i think his confidence is shattered!!!!
The amount of coverage given to this has been team is ridiculous
I want a podcast about Manchester United 24/7. I am obsessed. What about Pogba??
But every Fan of every club wants to watch this! It’s got everything e.g. intrigue, Drama, bemusement, stand-up comedy, etc. and if that isn’t enough, you get to have a good laugh at Gary Neville’s expense. Hell, what more do you want!?
ManUtd still a mega club regardless of where they finish.
Biggest club in the world what do you expect
They are Man Utd after all. It's like when Liverpool went through over a decade of so-so results before Klopp arrived. The big name clubs are always of interest even when they're in a big slump
Casemiro is literally our best signing in 10 years. I think his right about Anthony in a sense , it's a confidence issue but jamie trying to scapegoat him is crazy. How haven't they said anything about the scott change? He was at fault for both goals
Antony is not an 85M player period. That's the criticism. If they paid 20M for him, there would be far less criticism.
@@Romans8-9 I agree
I don't personally think sacking Erik ten Hag is going to solve anything. The squad at Manchester United has never felt right in several years, with players who I don't think are good enough quality, play too selfishly and also have not gelled as a team. It's a long term project and I think a lot of the team needs changing.
Manchester United is the most consistent team, one win in August, one win in September, one win in October, one win in November, one win in December, it's just like a menstrual cycle!!
if they don’t win in January, know that they are pregnant”