Dragon Age: The Veilguard Changed My Mind
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- Опубликовано: 23 июн 2024
- Dragon Age: The Veilguard has met a very mixed reception from its fanbase and gamers. However, after some recent interviews, it's what the developers are saying that's changing my mind more than the gameplay we have seen so far.
Dragon Age: The Veilguard is an upcoming action role-playing video game developed by BioWare and published by Electronic Arts. The fourth major game in the Dragon Age franchise, The Veilguard will be the sequel to Dragon Age: Inquisition.
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As a long time Dragon Age fan, I am used to Bioware changing the game mechanics in every iteration. I expected the game to be like this especially after the leak that happened sometime back. I will play the game for myself and judge it.
good perspective!
I played DAO back in 2009, and then hearing that some of the soon to be released DA2 had some gameplay mechanics like Mass Effect played ME to see what that was like. That got me playing ME1 & ME2 before DA2 came out. Then ME3. Then DAI where the gameplay was slightly familiar, but different again to the previous DA games. It has changed with each game. To me the gameplay and combat looks a lot similar to Mass Effect, and I don't see it as a bad thing, just different. As long as the story and characters are firmly DA and engaging then I think I'll enjoy playing it.
if it would be only mechanics world was changed so much you saw how dark spawns look now mutated clowns sorry but changing looking of world aslo fail and that rare happen in any game coz that never work look how much gothic teaser had hate coz of nothing did fit orginal version changes can be good but only if they dont change everything in game coz then its not the game people did play lets say baldurs now would have enemys that and character that are not looking even a bit like characters from orginal game
lol they only changed so much because the actual good employees of bioware left. Gameplay got WORSE with each every iteration. I guess thats a change.
@@AKABoondock19 well that how end every good game when idiots get job and ones with braing leave
Honestly dragon age is a game that grows on you when playing it
No it isn't! DAO and DA2 were not like that! Hell, I was a HARSH critic of DA2, but compared to this? The DA2 combat-system is a masterpiece!
Games can grow on you dragon age I wasn't sure I liked it but after playing the games they are fun
@@hotwildstud4838 fun and not fun open world was fail big areas with fillers that made me vomit with it farming mats to get beter gear and usless weapon that drop and never was used coz how they were bad compare to crafted things also this skull tablets colectiong that was worst thing i ever meet in game no one like stuff like that
@@TomaszPiotrowski-ly6wd of course no game is perfect but sometimes developers are rushed trying to come out with a game writing code isnt easy I can forgive em for a few filler items if its rushed but i agree no game should put you on a timer or make your guy craft in a open world like dragon age last installment but i still enjoyed it
@@hotwildstud4838 dude they bring that on them self sing up contract with devil have always cost and EA is a Devil in this world
Looking forward to more Veilguard coverage from here as the game gets closer
thanks!
I’ve never played a Dragon Age game before. But as my taste in games differs the older I get, I might give this one a go.
Having not played any of the other games I guess I’m not looking at this with such critical eyes.
If you like good in depth story lines the series are worth playing, although graphically dated.
DA Origins is fabulous
All the the games are different but really good.
You will understand nothing of the story, don't buy it
I think part of the gameplay issue was that it was level 1 gameplay
Exactly. This was literally the tutorial/prologue
@@RandomWandrer It's what they chose to show.
@@BittermanAndyAnd it was a terrible idea
@@alexavier1696
Nah
I think most people play DA for the story and the ability to change Thedas fate. Thats DA for me. The combat system isn't the main selling point. it just a means to an end.
I agree. I'm disappointed that the combat won't let me control the companions or let me have a 4-man party, but I'm willing to bet money that I'll still enjoy playing the game both in & out of combat.
@@ravenfal1496 wachout you can lose all money
As a player who started the Dragon Age series when DA:O was the only one out, I love it's transition into fluid action combat, but I also love all combat types in games.
The trailer doesnt show what its like to control the whole party because they've said you cant control the whole party
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I actually don't mind when I see games played by people who don't play so perfectly. Kind of how I play.
I personally don't care about the graphics or the combat system, only used my MC and rarely switched with my companions , I'm here for the story and funny banter with my crew.
i hear that
Same here the only time I switched usually was to send a rogue to unlock something or warrior to bash something
For it was to get my mage to bri g me to life or cast barrier
And a great story it will be, as evidenced by thwarting the elven god of trickery by pushing over a statue!
I always play my games on easy or story mode
I've played some Dragon Age Inquisition and I'm impressed. I'm hoping that Dragon Age The Veilguard lives up to it's potential
same
Origins was the only stand out in the series.
@@adeptdamage3669no. Inquisition sold more copies and won more awards too.
@@supergirlvideoclips894 because it was explicitly award bait. it was a poorly designed game in almost every respect, but if you are a game journo who only plays a game for an hour it can _feel_ like an actual epic.
@supergirlvideoclips894
You must not have played origins... it's BY FAR the superior game.
The game looked amazing.
agreed just want more gameplay
I don’t care how it looks like as long as the story and combat is good and what would I really want is story co-op enough said.
If new dragon age has a million fans, then I am one of them
If new dragon age has ten fans, then I am one of them
If new dragon age has only one fan, then that is me
If new dragon age has no fans, then that means I am no longer on earth
DA:V looks like exactly what i want. I think making everyone pansexual is weird. I prefer what inquisition did. But i get why they did it., so everyone can eat all the cake and have all the cake and be all the cake too.
My boss said “dress for the job you want, not for the job you have.” So I went in as Batman
lol wut
Hahaha.
Origins was a spectacular RPG...I found 2 a fun time regardless of the direction change, and Inquistion was decent as highlighted by its GoTY win. I think Bioware have earned the benefit of the doubt for Veilguard personally. I'm looking forward to it.
I love this viewpoint, I just started playing Dragon Age Origins thanks to the steam sale and I'm madly in love 5 hours in, even with some crashing here and there. I've watched some retrospectives on 2, and Inquisition and I still feel like I'll enjoy those games too!
@@Ar0474 i do enjoy all DA but i do hate that how much limited game did become since DAO
The lead director for this game only ever worked on Sims3 and 4 and a Tiger woods golf game... loads of awesome rpg expierence right there.😂
I agree with his view on how to showcase gameplay combat. I personally enjoy both turn-based and action rpg combat systems. Whoever was playing Veil Guard in the gameplay showcase didn't really seem to be giving us much as opposed to the gameplay combat showcase for Hogwarts Legacy, for example. During that, the person on the controller did an excellent job of showing the rather fluid parrying mechanic, while devs explained everything that was going on with combat. Hogwarts Legacy's crew was very insightful about it. I wish we could've gotten more out of the combat showcase for Veil Guard, but I'm sure they'll release more vids closer to launch, or at least I hope so. I'm all for 'evolving' the look and feel of DA, but the game still needs to be true to the foundational DA lore and play well if it stands any chance of success.
And I am hoping it does well.
Also, it's been confirmed that there will be some cameos in Veil Guard, so I'm really hoping to see my bestie Dorian and my bae Bull.😂
As a massive DA fan it looks good.
good to hear
With only 3 active skills my guess is they took inspiration from mass effect andromeda as it got praise for the combat. I personally felt like that was a massive design flaw with the combat. Yes there are different profiles you could switch to but it was still a massive limitation for no reason. I personally not a fan of the direction where the combat is going. So when looking at the damage output of the companions it appears to be just very minimal with 5 to 6 attacks doing the same amount of damage as one of the player's attacks so it makes you wonder just how much impact companions are really going to have in combat. Secondly the enemies are just targeting the player character and have to wonder if there's a way to draw aggro from enemies to not attack the squishier characters? Which if not is it going to be like inquisitions where you can give them armor from a yell ability? Aside from healing we have no idea if there's support skills. Everything we've seen so far suggests that if you're character isn't doing damage it's a waste of time so for those who want to play a support character doesn't seem like there's an option or if there is a way you're putting yourself at a massive disadvantage. I hope the game has a good story but the writing quality and many of the line deliveries from what was shown doesn't fill me with confidence that's going to happen. There's probably going to be articles written in the future about how this game like the past few bioware games had an unclear vision of what the game is suppose be which lead to most of the work being done in a relatively short period of time.
definitely wanna see more combat for all the reasons you stated
hones every game EA touch finaly become trash and i dont realy expect new DA will be good so far gameplay and trailer did made me not want to play this game propobly i will just watch some gameplays to see how the story of DA ends
If they show more gameplay, I hope it's someone who is better at the game than the last person. It looked like a lot of user error to me with how slow they were trying to defend against attacks.
yup, i address that in the video! it made no sense.
@ReforgeGaming it looked intriguing to me until I saw the gameplay.
I'm not sure who they were trying to convince with that showing.
Not everybody is a master player. I'm glad they've just showed us a real, average person playing it. In a lot of situations, I just kept thinking how I would have done things differently, and that made me eager to play.
I'll probably get it so I can see the rest of the story, but damn. I don't know why they thought it best to show level 1 gameplay from someone who is complete dogshit at it. They even had lined telegraphs for basic enemy lined projectiles. It just looks like a mobile game.
just watch a youtube video, its not like your choices are going to matter.
@comyuse9103 If they don't bring back dragon keep then sure. But the default world state is far from mine.
@@Joseph_Siri again, not gonna matter. your past choices in DAI led to, like, 3 lines of dialogue and some changes on the war table.
@comyuse9103 Naaah, they could do something with inquisitions choices easily.
I would have wanted to see the consequences regarding the well of sorrows, divine Victoria, Hawke, the ruler of Orlais, if the Wardens are with the inquisition or scattered about, and the consequences of making Cole a spirit or human. ( that last one is just me spitballing a scenario between Cole and Solas. ) I feel like those are pretty big enough decisions to leave an impact for future Dragon Age games.
Don't get me wrong here. I have 0 expectations for Veilguard. None of my wants might even get addressed. These ramblings of mine are just empty wishes and false hope. 💀
@@Joseph_Siri they _could,_ but they _won't._ they aren't good developers, even their high points (like kotor or the original baldur's gate) are honestly kinda mid (just compare to planescape torment or NWN2) and the people who made _those_ are all gone.
Dragon age origins was my first bioware game, and I loved it. Personally, I don't care about the combat system. Although I prefer being able to take my time with it instead of real time button smashing, I will play in story mode anyway. I play dragon age for the story, not for combat. The hard focus on the combat system actually makes me a bit hesitant and afraid they might have sacrificed story and depth of the characters over 'pew pew lasers'. I'll just sit back, watch and see when new information comes out. When we got the character trailer I was noping out, and so far I have moved to 'will probably get at some point, when it is on sale'. Let's see if they can win me over.
Tales of Dragon Age
I bought DA:O as my first Bioware game in 2009 and was enamored with the first level shown and the art direction was amazing, you explored the world and subclasses were found through world interaction not via a tree. It was what made me trust Bioware and buy Mass Effect 2 the following year! After that DA2 was obvs a preorder and boy was I disappointed with the gameplay, but hawk and characters like Anders brought it back to a semi good experience. Inquisition for me felt like a good middle ground and the first level reveal looked a lot like Veilguard. My only worry is all three previous games had similarly good art direction and Veilguard really doesn't. Veilguard also feels more like DA2 in combat. Compare the Pride demons from this trailer and Inquisition, there is a distinct lack of menace and weight. They feel like laser ghosts not demons.....
Im curious on more of the dialog choices and how they will impact your story
I will with hold judgment until I play the the final product. And remember this was the first area you go into to. I agree with Loni if you show case a game stop giving the controller to someone who doesn’t know how to play it.
I haven't ever played any of the old Dragon Age games never really knew about them but I have to say this new one I think actually looks pretty sick and will be keeping my eye on it
Yeah I'm excited for this game never played one but I think I'm going to try to like it
yeah i only ever played one, and this looks fun, just want more gameplay
Yeah, was looking into also. The trailer was not the best. But their Q&A and all of their other released information really made me happy. So then why not show this in a trailer. I loved orgins and inquisition and was kinda sad they didn't perfect what they did in inquisition with this hybred crpg / arpg combat. But if they get rid of it I want them to do the best of what they're trying to create. So I'm happy now just hope they think about this moving forward.
If I wanted to play the same game over n over again I would play Madden every year
Interesting you mention turn based game play as an example of limitation of technology, but fail to recognize the combat controls down grade caused by the limitation that is a console controller. Keyboard and mouse give me many different hotkeys to trigger skills in combat rather than being stuck with only 2 or 3. As someone who disliked the change in combat from Origins to 2( and remembers the awful waves that teleported into being early in DA2's release, thus removing any tactical thinking for defeating such combatants), I have a wait and see approach. The time span between game releases also a reason to be cautious.
So I played Greedfall and feel like I gave it a fair amount of effort but the combat just fell flat. Greedfall 2 combat seems to be inspired by Dragon Age because they know that system works. I think the change of combat for Veilguard is what concerns the core audience
The core audience of Dragon Age games don't care about combat, just about story, characters and lore. Each DA game has been different in terms of gameplay and combat. So the only valid expectation was that it would also be different from the predecessors.
I tried so hard to get into Greedfall but somehow it just kept making me feel nauseous. I hope the combat doesn't bring out motion sickness like that game did (even with settings fixed to help)
i would say i would never buy a bioware game again, but when this fails i doubt they will be around to make anymore.
honest i will wait when game will be 50-70% sale other way i wont buy it
I'm disappointed that there isn't any info going around about PC controls (DAI's PC port was lazy garbage to be real). It was also sad to see how poorly the player showcased the gameplay. Really fucked with my excitement for the game. There're plenty of people who don't care much about combat and that's fine for them, but as somebody who does, seeing that poor gameplay reveal has got me heavily questioning things. It just looks so awkward and empty, but that can easily be because of the unskilled player and their low level/locked gameplay mechanics. Still gonna wait to see some (hopefully) better gameplay showcases. And mod support details.
I am too biased towards this game. I LOVE nearly all of these games, played them years ago. I love the story and the world, and played a lot of them on nightmare mode, though I didn't finish all of them on that. Though I have finished all of the main games at least once, the DLC hasn't always drew me in.
Each has some pretty basic pros and cons.
Origins is probably the most polished of the bunch, plus the story-line hits pretty hard from the beginning to the end. The specialized origin story chapters are something I think ALL fans want to come back, although it might just feel like wasted content for the developers. The combat is pause-play, which has the tendency to lean in the player's favor. You can literally control when combat stops, in a game with strategy. It does feel more organic to me than turn-based, and in origins it usually doesn't feel unbalanced because, like most tactical RPGs, you are always outnumbered. I had a lot of fun with this game, but the combat is never really pushed as far as it can go.
Dragon age II has an egregious amount of reusing assets in the game. Levels, character models, et cetera. The only reason I forgive this is for two things. One, the game was made in around a year, and two the storyline has been made over different chunks (acts) with some large time skips. This doesn't mean most models are changed, no, but having the characters and stories develop over time in one place has its merits. It's been years since I played it, and I don't want to replay it as much as the others. Some opinions seem to think that the combat changed alot in this game, but I never really felt it was very dramatic. You pause, you select abilities, they activate, you run around. The abilities do have more focus how enemies are grouped, and this is a minor increase in being able to control these grouped enemies. But nothing close to anything pure action. The artstyle and attack animations became far more "stylish".
Inquisition has the most content, but some of that content is horrific fetch quests which I NEVER wish to do again. Tresspasser being DLC when it feels like the "true" ending of the game is also heinous. I like that the stylish attack animations stayed from two. The story does feel like a... more pretty tone than the grimier one of origins. Not that the story shies away from sorrow or atrocities, but it is more polite in conveying them.
As for "wokequesition". Zevran and Leiliana were always bi, and all the companions in two were technically bi. Inquisition certainly increased the amount of characters that focused on LGBTQ... content? but it also has a much wider cast. I feel like in origins it was much subtler and for Inquisition I would have preferred a little more depth for a character like Krem. A lot of interactions with him feel like "but he's trans!" and maybe focusing more on other aspects of him would have served as a better teaching moment for players then the interactions you do get with him. I do like the subtle avoidance there is for making Solas straight, and the much friendlier character like Dorian gay. Also, having some characters only romance certain races was a funny touch to me.
GASP They have... a type?!
But it's been around since day one, and since a lot of people like that, it's going to increase. As long as none of the characters are only LGBTQ, but are also brave, duplicitous, wise, funny, and all moral shades of jackass in between, I don't really care.
OK, I care a little. Just how are ALL the veilguard companions pan? Like... ALL OF THEM? It's OK for companions to not want to do the dirty with the PC, somebody tell the developers its OK.
Thank you for reading my essay on my biased rant about the series, anyone who does.
I just want a game that has a good story, isn't rushed, and isn't locked to that friggin EA launcher.
I’m kind of excited as well, but I wanted to contradict something you said. Yes it is “trend chasing” what most developers are doing.
I’ve been disheartened lately as a gamer because so many developers are selling out to be just like Fortnite or over watch (which both have a similar [albeit large] player base).
The question is: when everyone changes to be just like Fortnite or overwatch (in order to get new players from those communities) what will happen to every other gamer that do not enjoy those types of games?
In some way, shape, or form; every game will be some iteration of Fortnite or overwatch.
As someone who’s a massive fan of Dragon Age, maybe I can shed some light on the DAO/everyone else split. Basically, there’s a very vocal subset of Dragon Age fans that are ONLY fans of Origins. DAO plays more like the Baldur’s Gate games than anything - in fact, it was designed to be a spiritual successor to the Baldur’s Gate games. So as the franchise has moved away from the tactical combat, that subset has gotten more and more angry.
The other part of this is that Origins is super fucking dark. By far the darkest in the series. And it makes sense, the story of that game is you fighting the Blight, which is an eldritch zombie apocalypse. That’s not to say the other games aren’t dark either; DA2 is dark in the sense of people doing some really evil things. DAI’s darkness is more implied and in the background. So there’s fear that Veilguard will fail to bring the darkness of the Blight to the forefront. That said, the Blight is so fucked up as a concept that it’s impossible for Veilguard not to have extremely dark moments, and it seems we’ll be getting some body horror elements with Ghilan’nain being unleashed. Still, that fear is there.
TL;DR: there’s a group of very vocal DAO elitists that are angry that the combat isn’t nearly as tactical anymore and the other two games aren’t as dark as Origins.
there is also the fact that the narratives were worse as you go forward in the series. DA2 has some interesting ideas that they just sorta missed the mark on, assuming i am correct on it being a game _about_ inevitability and that is what they were going for. the gameplay was mid, but, if you remove the awful level design, it was over all passable. DAI had an out right awful narrative, making you a perfect mary sue and having everything be as simple as possible for you, along side some of the worst gameplay of any game i have ever played.
I’m gonna be real dude this sounds like bitter basement-dwelling internet hate
@@TheCrimsonOne508 because i have standards?
@@TheCrimsonOne508 dude if you are person who like buying trash game for huge amount of money fine but some people expect more from creators of games that was great
baldur's gate, or Neverwinter Nights? I'd say NWN is also made by Bioware
I was one of the ones that when the first reveal came out said "Nope, not this Fortnite trash". However the gameplay reveal made me 180, it looks right up my alley. I don't care about all the other politics people bring up, as long as the story lines up all the way, and is satisfactory after so long, I'll be fine.
And play as you want. I am a woman and I dont want to play as male
@@everdinestenger1548 As a man, it doesn't matter in a fantasy game if I'm playing whatever gender is there, but thankfully the choice is there!
@@MidoriDad my personal opinion as I am ancient☺️
@@everdinestenger1548 lol don't worry I'm borderline ancient too, 88' baby here.
Problems is everyone try now copy popular games in look and design and put it into games that dont fit but eh give designing to idiot who dont play game and you get trash game
It looks more cartoony than inquisition. You would think with how well god of war made their characters more lifelike that dragon age would do the same. Idk why they want it to look cartoony and fortnite like. Seems kiddish when dragon is a more mature and dark fantasy.
pretty sure it will be a good game as all bioware games
but maybe they shouldn't have called it dragon age if it's completely different genre, imo even the recent DA games have shifted a bit too far from the turn based rpg playstyle
then noone would complain about it being too action rpg and they would just be hyped for that new action rpg from the creators of dragon age
I am super hyped for this new Dragon Age Veilguard game. I have waited 10 years for this and am happy that the story will continue with Solas and my inquisitor who romanced him in Inquisition will be in it too. Cannot wait to see more and see where they take the story. I think the game and combat look great. I just would like to see some mage game play since I always play as mage.
I mean i am not playing dragon age for the combat lol
We used to.....
I loved the combat, but I hated the art style, and hearing that it's not an open world disappointed me. I'm a new player, I started with inquisition and I LOVED everything about it (except minor stuff that didn't hinder my experience) I loved the world, I loved the lore and I loved the exploration...
Sorry, but: 3 Abilities/Skills/Spells ONLY will always always be VERY LIMITED! Especially for mages, who's entire class-fantasy is not being a dumb-apprentice-blaster, but frankly a swiss-army-knife character with spells for every possibility! With only 3 Slots that's not going to happen, either you'll be a Jack of few traits, master of none or a Jack of one trait and still master of none!
It never needed "an evolution" - sure DAO could have done with some quality of life changes (hell: MODS give you those! I am currently doing my 30th or so run of DAO and I've moded that game to hell and back and used cheats to unlock the specializations (my last runs were with the disk-version and the DAO-Servers have been shut of, so my achievements didn't carry over to the Ultimate Edition, so yeah I wanted my specializations!)
To be frank, im a long time dragon age fan, and while i enjoyed inquisition, i am NOT a fan of the fact that theyve done away with the option to have a tactical view during combat. Im also not thrilled at how youre limited to 2 special attacks per character. Also not thrilled that, rather than 3 party members, theyve downsized the part to 3 companions at a time. That being said, I am hopeful for DA:V. Im not going to preorder.... but i will wait for real reviews and remain hopeful.
Im glad i stumbled across your channel again. Watched some of your videos a while back, but forgot to sub. Ive now rectified that issue.
People gotta let go of the past especially with gaming. DAO came out in 2009 and people are down voting becuase it’s not like that game💀2009? Be fr bro that style is never coming back this gameplay feels like a mix of mass effect 3 and inquisition and I’m here for it. That being said whoever they had on the sticks was trash ngl😭
Feels like its moving away from being an RPG.
same more hack and slash game
Yeah remind me a lot of Hogwarts legacy like a really lot which I love that game so great 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
i can see that
Dragon Age got worse with each new game. The second was worse than the first, and so on. Inquisition was tolerable at best. Veilguard looks like it's too focused on gender identity instead of a good story, regardless of what the character might be like. I don't give a shit about people's sexual preferences. People can be anything. But don't force me to like all the fetishes that other people have through a game, or anything else for that matter.
Well I personally am getting sick of smelling everybody's A$$whoole! Everybody has one stop trying to make everybody smell yours. Remember when you would go to gamestop or IGN see whats out and buy a game based on the cover or the demo you played? How bout we go back to that. Nobody playing a game for you or watching a trailer is a logical way to rate a game. Also if you don't like a game leave a rational rating if you must then MOVE ON! stop going to every platform seeking to hate that game or those who like them, aka=Grow Up!
if we stay silence about it nothing will change people need wake up
i'm an OG DAO fan who also loves DA2. DAI was okay, but the large empty maps made the game a slog for me. i really like what i'm seeing of Veilguard, they're going back to a downscaled world which i think bioware does way better. the companions look interesting, and they're picking up a lot of lore from the first game, so i am very interested to see where it goes.
re: visuals, honestly it looks too high fantasy for me, but it's where the franchise has been going for a decade, so it's not something that deters me from playing, as i care about the plot and characters more. and i feel like a stylized style will stand the passage of time way better. thanks for covering this in a level headed way!
As a long time fan..how much are they paying you?
Sponsored videos have to disclaim that. Imagine thinking someone warming up to a game and asking for more gameplay means they’re paid. How insecure are you?
I’m just not a fan of the stylized look and character designs dragon age used to look like actual dark fantasy and the tone and after playing the Witcher 3 last year I want a game similar to it and veilgaurd does not look and feel like that and the gameplay I love action games but it looks downgraded to other party based games. There’s no actual party control and they don’t even have health bars it would be just boring to just give them commands only and again after playing ff7 rebirth it does not look right and kind of boring imo.
The Witcher 3 have a lot of bright, colorful scenery. Are you sure Dragon Age is prohibited of having them? You didn't see not even 1/10 of the game. If you're conflicted, wait for it to launch and take more info through reviews of people who have actually played it before judging the game by what you imagine it will be.
@@GabrielPassarelliG I know it does but it’s subtle and still has the dark and gritty feeling and with its writing. I’m not saying Veilgaurd will be bad but it’s just not what I am looking for but I’ll wait and see.
DA is not about visuals, gameplay, title nor trailers. DA is about the story and characters.
Majority of the main complaint about DAI is the open world concept. I much prefer this kind of layout tbh.
open world maybe but that open world did feel more empty than closed one XD
@TomaszPiotrowski-ly6wd True. DAI open world that's quite taunting was not my preference as well so I don't mind the more mission based approach though as per Dev Q and A, there will areas that we can return to.
@@willows4769 problem is that open world was empty and side quest did look terible compare to main story they just did feel boring and bad made
I wouldn't worry too much about BioWare's future or this new game's negative reaction. BlackRock Inc and the Vanguard Group are EAs two biggest shareholders; so even if Veil Guard repulses more fans than it attracts, the DEI money pouring into EAs coffers will 100% guarantee the survival of BioWare and this franchise.
Honestly, they can afford to lose every single fan of the first three games and it won't make any difference.
Well... The thing is you CAN'T "control the whole party"... And the party is smaller than ever before in the franchise. What you see in the demo is what you get.
It's also a VERY weak retcon of the promised story, and only makes sense if you read ALL THE BOOKS AND COMICS.
I REALLY WANT to be hopeful about this game... I love this franchise... Hells I have multiple DA tattoos FFS. I'm a fan of the world and the story... But THIS game isn't a sequel to DA:o, it's a spin-off action RPG set in the DA universe and based on the fanfic novels/comics.
I'll probably play it, but it's also probably going to be the LAST Bioware game I play.
And FWIW, Darrah DOESN'T care about what his CUSTOMERS say, unless they agree with HIS idea of a"fun game". If he didn't like Dragon Age Origins, maybe he should have sodded off and developed ANOTHER franchise instead of ruining an existing one. 😡
I dunno, I feel like a funless pessimistic git, but my expectations were already so freaking low, and yet I'm still extremely worried and disappointed 😞
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You really can still aee the MMO in this game. The directional lines of attacks seconds before they launch the attack. The overly bright colors. It's like they just took the massive multiplayer and online parts out. Making it the first single player MMO ever. Weird. There are some HIGH profile games releasing close to fall this year. They better pull a big rabbit out of their ass to hold up
yeh i do aggre it feels like mmo wich is so stupid idea coz mmo has limits coz of balance and all while single players game dont need to worry about it coz there is no interaction betwen players so there is less to worry about and they can put in more interesting options for game
I'm still worried about not seeing the new mechanics and features in the first gameplay trailer for a game planned to release in less than a year. It can show up being impressive later on, but for now rather than just wait and see, i'll just get excited for other games coming this year that has shown more.
I find it odd for 'gameplay' to be defined by the OP as combat. (!)
This is an RPG first, unless Bioware has abandoned role-play entirely.
'Companions are now 'pan' -- all of them. That's a hard no for me, because as a Christian, I can deal with having wordly beliefs and actions in a game, but they removed any 'straight' choices.
They promise each companion's backstory will explain why they are 'pan'. Those backstories will make this worse, as if it's fine (reasons) if everyone is 'pan'. It isn't fine, and it isn't good writing. So maybe Bioware is not the RPG they were.
They added more sex, nudity, and increased emphasis on sex to ridiculous levels. (I suppose due to Baldur's Gate 3, from the rumors.) As much as I looked forward to DA4, as long as I waited, (been here since Origins, not sure they care), as good as 'DA: the Veilguard' looks, and as much as I loved the past writing, (and want closure on stories and lore) I can't put money toward this.
Everybody's spoiled brats these days...if the don't get what "they " want they throw a temper tantrum...just wait for the game to come out before you critique....I know some are going to hate the game...just because it's not origins...grow up...everyone is not impressed...things change so enjoy games for what they are and stop living in the past...please it's annoying...go play origins again if you want and leave us alone...lol because nobody cares
Ofcours its better to accept every trash game like they give you shit you eat shit who cares no matter how it taste.
I agree that we need to see more mid to late-game gameplay. I like DragonAge except the 2nd which was a baffling departure from what people expected in the sequel. The combat is a huge part of any rpg and finding the right balance is difficult. I think they are on the right track with Veilguard but need to show us more.
hoping for more reveals this summer!
Everyone thats Played Dragon age Origins, know that is the best one
Inquisition is my favourite. Origins is good but its combat is dreadful.
@@MammothMorals Yeah the combat might not be for everyone but the story was the best told by DA Origins IMO
I'm not sure I entirely agree. Don't get me wrong, Origins has my favorite story/plot out of the the 3 as well as several RPG systems that I regret they got rid of in the later games, but the combat is just such a glitchy mess and so painfully terrible even when it works that it makes the game a slog to get through for me. Sadly, even more of a slog than Inquisition, with as bloated as it admittedly is, because the combat is at least generally better.
@@Xain0209 inquisition is only a slog if you feel the need to 100% each area before moving on to the next
@@MrBulldawg6 will agree that origins story is arguably the best. But Inquisitions story is not far behind IMO. That plus better combat and graphics adds up to it being better overall.
This RUclipsrs think they can criticise everything without basis just for the sake of lights. This guy hasn't even played origins or DA2. Even though Origins had a good RPG combat system it was far from perfect but the gory details and the story was fantastic. DA2 wasn't very good but Hawke was a good protagonist. Inquisition was open world and the combat system was a mix between RPG and a bit more fluid. It was my favourite. Veilguard seems to have a bit of everything with more live action combat. Evn though it has some details i believe it will do great. Honestly this RUclipsrs just shit on everything for their likes that it's disgusting.
No, it looks like Mass Effect Andromed, RESKINNED to look like a Dragon Age Game! Seriously, look at the combat system! 3 Skills/Abilities only (and no profile-switching, so further dumbed down even!), companions that deal negligible damage and are basically just there for either primining or detonating a combo you set up (which is Mass Effect! Seriously, that's what Biotics and Techs in ME do!)...sure they dumped the cover-system, but that only makes sense with guns, so them changing that to parrying, blocking and dodging (and magic-shields for mages)? That's logical! So yeah, it's Dragon Effect Thedas or Mass Age Thedas!
7:40 sounds great!!!! But... why are they telling us it's going to be great, and showing us something rubbish? Nah, not buying it. Anyone can say anything.
same not realy interested int it if they give me it for free i might try it other way no ty back to DAO
BIOWARE=RPG MP plus Three NPC too Take along, its the Building of the Company, RPG is DA, Dark, Every Action HAS CONSEQUENCES!! IF THEIR AREN'T CONSEQUENCES EVEN TOUGH ONES ITS NOT RPG... PAUSE, PLAY, TURN BASE, SOMETHING CHALLENGING TO MAKE ONE THINK OUTSIDE-THE-BOX, TACTICAL MAKES ONE SEES HOW TO STRAGIEST SET UP AND USE YOUR TEAM!! NO ONE LEFT BEHIND, NO ONE LEFT OUT!! THAT MEANS ALL OF THE ONE, THE ONLY HUMAN SPECIES!!! STOP IDENTITY POLITICS AND BS IN OUR GAMES, ONLY YOU ALL ARE THE TRUE RT PEOPLE AND NEED TO LOOK WITHIN YOURSELF!!! ME, KOTOR,ETC, STORYTELLING IS WERE HOLLYWOOD, SBI BS,AND THE DESTRUCTION OF EVERYTHING GOOD AS THEY ALL JUST WANT TO DESTROY SOME MADE UP STABILITY OF NOT HATING EVERYTHING AS THEY ALL SEEM TO BE!!!! IT WILL BE DESTROY LIKE ALL OTHER FRANCHISES!!
OKAY THEY HAVE DESTROYED EVERYTHING!! SO NOW WHAT DO THEY HAVE TO OFFER BESIDES DESTROYING EVERYTHING??? SERIOUSLY WHAT DO THEY OTHER THEN DESTROYING EVERYTHING?? NO CREATIVITY, NO KNEW IDEAS, NO KNEW IMAGINATION, NO KNEW REAL STORYLINES!!! SO DISGUSTING, TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING THEY HAVE NO TALENT TO REPLACE IT WITH BUT LITERALLY STICK AN STONES, NO ONE WILL BUY BECAUSE WE WILL BE BACK INTO THE DARK AGES!! AS A WOMAN THOSE TOOLS WHO ARE HELPING TO DESTROY CIVILIZATION DON'T WORRY YOU ALL WILL BE REPLICATED AS ALL THE EVILS WHO TORE, DESTRUCTED EVERYTHING SO THE FUTURE GENERATIONS HAVE NOTHING ALL BECAUSE OF THE LIKES OF KATHLEEN KENNEDY, NOW TAYLOR SWIFT, DEMOCRATS ALL, WHOOPI, SWEET BABY THE GREATEST EVILS BY TAKING OUR TAXPAYERS MONEYS, HLS IN WASHINGTON ETC.ETC... YOU ALL KNOW YOU CANT CREATE ANYTHING, ALL YOU DO IS DESTROY, TEAR EVERYTHING YOU FAIL TO BE DOWN... HOPE YOU LIKE POVERTY REMEMBER WHEN INDIE, AND DOUBLE A, EVERYTHING THAT ISN'T BY YOU CLOWNS, WOLVES IN SHEEPLE CLOTHING BECAUSE YOU CAN NEVER BE WHAT YOU NEVER HAD!!! GOOD LUCK
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this new mass effect games looks off
Its not about combats but about limits they give into game classes limit espesly in inquisition was huge it dont feel anymore like rpg it was just ready one of this fail games where we got few classes with very limited weaponary and lets be honest people love to make they character being unique but inqisition was very limiting same go about designing look of character and what he wear it was limited bah armor of inquisitor was ugly as hell also other thing is trailer we saw just show look of world changed i get graphic improve and all but its not that many armors from DAO look 10x better in design than ones from DA inqisition and look at monsers in DA veilguard they look in traler is totaly changed dark spawns dont look like darkspawns but some mutated clowns sorry but there are some rules you should never change in game if world have it look keep it and dont change it each time coz it will start not look like same game plus coz its game controlled by EA lot of people dont belive it will be good coz lets be honest EA destroy every game they put they hand on and it never change
I lost interest as soon as I saw the combat. 🤷🏽♂️ Just looks like generic 3rd person action rpg to me now; the combat reminds me of that Dungeons and Dragons: Dark Alliance game that came out a few years ago. Don’t plan on buying it Day 1 or at all really and if I do end up buying it it’ll definitely be when it’s on a deep sale.
RPG stands for Roleplaying Game. Not Strategy Game. There is nothing like "an RPG should be tactical and strategic, and not action realtime". If we get to properly roleplay, then that is an RPG. People should understand that there are many subgenres, and that none is better than the others. Take The Veilguard as it is and is trying to be, and not by what you think it should have been based on a game from 15 years ago or another one from a different brand and company from last year. Trying to discredit or hate the game without it even being out yet is just not fair. You can dislike it, but do keep in mind it is your individual opinion, not a fact for everyone.
i dont think RPG games are antithetical to strategy... turn based RPGs are full of strategy
@@ReforgeGaming I'm not saying that. I'm saying there are lots of kinds of RPG games, including Action and Strategic RPGs. Many people are saying The Veilguard is not an RPG anymore because of its action focused play style. And many people is saying a true RPG is only like BG3. I'm saying that the combat mechanic is not what makes an RPG a Roleplay game, it's the story and the character you create to roleplay.
That's such a weird comment. Are you seriously trying to tell me that you don't understand why people don't want to accept the game for what it's trying to be?
Probably because people DON'T LIKE what the game is trying to be? People expected something and this is NOT IT so people are mad, how can you not understand that?
How about you guys stop letting these companies switch genres to appeal to more people? Yall are killing genres.
how are you letting them do it? they make the choice in pre production, make the game, market the game, and launch the game. the market will decide if it succeeds or not.
@@ReforgeGaming I wouldnt expect someone who started playing this series with Inquisition to understand where I am coming from. But basically man, if you are a RPG fan, dont be supporting or hyping up "rpgs" that arent made for RPG fans.....like this one.
the setting, atmosphere and characters are severely lacking. It's reminding me of the Saints Row Reboot. Flashy gameplay and pretty graphics won't save it
i dont see that level of problem here
For a moment, I thought you were describing Dragon's Dogma 2. There are no such problems with The Veilguard from what we've seen so far.
Game is struggling without even being out😂😂😂. All due to game "journalists" like the ones in this channel. Oh it is not like the old DA games, it is too different, only 3 team members at a time, too woke,etc... I love the DA games, still play Inquisition. I am excited for Veilguard, but people are putting too many opinions based on a small sample of the beginning of the game, and from there trying to squeeze "content" to put videos. 😂 give it a rest, at least wait for a demo or wait for Bioware to send a tryout to "content creators".
as soon as you said you've only ever played Inquisition I completely ignored everything else you said. Inquisition is not the best example of Dragon Age. Origins is. You should play that before having any opinion.
okay i ignored what you said based on your bias as well, lol
No! Prime and detonate is not COMPLEX! Don't make me laugh! :(
Trust me... For some people that's to complicated
But he is correct. I played and loved Dragon Age Inquisition, but the combat wasn’t good, it was serviceable.
true combad was not good espesly when my character couldynt hit sometimes but also i hated class limits in DAO i could play dual wield warrior in inquistion only dual wield option is rogue daggers and i dont like play rogue coz they dont fit my playstyle so yeh i hate limits they puted on game
@@TomaszPiotrowski-ly6wd not only that, but combat was limited even if you wanted to role play as a particular class. The issue wasn’t that it wasn’t fleshed out because all three classes had three specializations, is mostly the boring mashing 1 button then RT to use the other 4 moves that were “special” over and over again. The “tactic version” was also not my favorite way of playing it because you have to constantly pause and redirect all the party once they finish an adversary, they start moving and positioning themselves in front of the enemy even when they’re bow carriers or mages. So it was fine… just not particularly fun. I stayed playing because of the lore.
This is another obvious flop and that'll likely be the end of bioware. so sad
Everyone negative about it for good reasons they have downgraded the game from Dragon Age and change it to Mass Effect. Now we do not have 8 slots to use to make builds. we have three slots throughout the entire game that need to be change and some ppl are looking at all the characters look ugly which I do not care about that..🥶 and the game has less Gore and darkness in it and all the characters like they're enjoying themselves.... instead of being afraid like they know they're not going to die or whatever😮
This game is going to be absolute dogshit
Haven’t changed my mind. I’ve played most of Origins and finished inquisition several times. It’s still a maybe buy it 5 years later if it goes to $20 and only if they get good reviews. 1. Graphics still bother me. 2. Writing seems horrible and for an RPG, yeah, that’s a no. 3. Combat looks similar to Andromeda combat and I hated andromeda combat even if others said it was an improvement over cover shooter mechanics from ME 1-3; I didn’t think so. Different but not better by any means imo. Using combo powers over and over and waiting for the powers to time in again was just tedious and boring to me. I loved ME1-3, but this feels like a game that took the worst parts of all DA and ME games and put them all together. 4. There isn’t a single character I would romance, and as Incel as that may sound, romance is supposed to be a huge part of BioWare games, but every one of those companions feel exceedingly annoying and aggressively aggravating. Even Harding lost her charm for me. She was a strait-laced no nonsense character in Inquisition, not a snark that beats enemies with beer mugs cause it’s so “fun.” 5. I’m not an extremist anti-woke or woke person and stay far from that cesspool convo, but, omg, are all the characters ugly as sin mostly because I hate the little character and personality traits they did show off. But fine, what is that Pat of a quanari??? It’s so far removed from what a quanari is supposed to be… they’re supposed to be the Klingons of Dragon age, not jewelry wearing gendermancers. They’re supposed to be Samurai, either kill or seppuku, not leaping rogues who spend five hours every morning adorning jewelry??? I don’t want to make a big deal of it, but it’s immersion breaking. 6. I’m not rooting against the game because a part of me does wish BioWare would get another go at ME but, I’m not about to waste money on a game I’m not going to enjoy either. And having said that, I don’t want to see them retcon and ruin commander Shep either, so, I feel neutral about whether I want the game to succeed or fail. 7. Bellara is also a copy paste character of phoebe(possibly one of the the most dislikable characters BioWare has ever made, up there with Jacob) from Andromeda which bothers the hell out of me, because I have a feeling other characters will be recycled also. Bellara will likely have a branch of fetch quests to go clear some veil breaches and she will probably act all annoyingly nonsensical and eccentric. 🤮. Naaah.
i appreciate the lengthy feedback
It seems you don't even know how the game will be and yet you already "knows" Bellara is Phoebe and that there will be fetch quests, when all info is explicitly saying otherwise. You can be frustrated and dislike the game. But understand that you disliking it don't make it a bad game per se. Just don't let the hate trend get ahead of the facts we're yet to see.
I think people are forgetting why this hurts so bad…this franchise was based on baulders gate…the og BioWare team made the old baulders gate games so origins was bg3 so with every new iteration it changed its identity similar to parasite Eve and seeing this so different from what it was is what’s bothersome I just hope it’s lands for the franchise sake
it seems like they always made big changes tho
Origins was good for it's story and companies everything else was trash the graphics the combat system trash it shouldn't be a surprise to y'all anymore because that game came out in like 2009 so the original creators probably ain't there no more I get why yall angry but at this point its just sad no matter how much y'all cry about it bioware is still gonna get paid regardless dont take this personal it's just my opinion
*this game is a self-insert from the director, it's more based in kink for young kids than it is dragon Age*
Why? That game looks ass.
why do you think that?
You can't control the whole party....
yes u can, u tell them what to do... i never said you can become the character
Can you guys please stop being so negative about this game cuz they gonna end up cancelling the game before I even get to play the dam game.
No they not look at anthem Gotham knights and suicide squad I'm not saying that vailguard is gonna be next but if those three dead games released vailguard gonna still release
It's their opinion, and they have all the right to voice it.
@@SeventhheavenDK but complain about a game that came out in 2009 like origins was only good for it's story and companions everything else about it is trash the graphics the combat the character creation trash
I want to play this game and NOBODY IS GONNA PUT ME OFF! ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
@@RandomWandrer same
The problem isn't that the gameplay is fun. It doesn't look fun. As a long-time gamer, this kind of gameplay is terrible.I played every dragon age. This game looks terrible, and i will not be buying this game until it's under 20. The devs can preach about how it feels, but they are not the ones buying and playing it. They need to understand why they're losing fan base
I don't know man.... This looks really dated. I feel like I've already played this many times last gen. Just my opinion. I'm really underwhwelmed.
I'm just disgusted at the massive downgrade. We went from having 8 skill slots in Inquisition, to having 3 here.
You have to actually play it or learn more to cry about things to not be concerned about.
that could feel reductive for sure
It seems we have many basic moves, and that those moves can be upgraded and customized. Maybe even comboed. So the way we get to play it might become much more like tailoring our gameplay to our liking with the specific skills that allow for that playstyle, than to play generically with a variety of skills that should've been basic moves. Like Twin Fangs, Shield Wall, Combat Roll and Evade (all from DA:I) for example. Or skills that should've been items, like Knockout Powder and many Tempest skills. I know mage gameplay is tricky, and that is worriying me the most for only 3 skills, but we should really wait and see before seeing it as a major downgrade or becoming disgusted.
@ReforgeGaming I think that's why people aren't interested Inquisition already felt like that from origins.
Plus, we don't even control our party members besides telling them which skills to use. Which is why this game is like mass effect, not DA. Also check how much damage your party members actually do, its lol😅😂, sad. GG
They destroyed Dragon Age IP.
Spoiler alert: the game is garbage
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This game cancelled the lore and turned it into a crash grab bait and switch. It lost its soul. Its trying to be everything but the orginal game. Rather butchering they should have been brave enough to make there own.