Well, I like Acc and AMS2, but I have to go with ACC because that is the sim that I actually own . My brother has a pretty good PC so I only get on AMS2 at this house .
IMO, beside the feeling of FFB in track, the detail of the crowd in ACC is worth all the hype, specially the night stint, so alive, so colorful, so immersive, it really challenges your racing mindset to focus the race line, iit's just amazing 🤩🤩🤩
That is not true, though. Search for "Iracing time lapse day night" here on RUclips and you can definatly see videos showing (dynamic) shadows - there are even dynamic cockpit shadows. Nils seems to be driving at 12:00 in the noon with the sun exactly on top. Unsure whether it would actually look like that on the real Nordschleife at 12:00 noon but there are pictures of other places on earth in the net where it is 12:00 noon and objects on the ground cast no shadow at all as the sunlight is coming directly from above - look it up on google: "Lahaina Noon" :) Iracing's shadows don't look as modern and/or pronounced as on other games, though - I agree on that.
AMS² for ME best Look/Performance Ratio till first of April. Now, just best Performance ,but still very good. ACC has the latest Scan and highest grade on Detail, but very, very Performance hunrgy. I wish a Frankennords : Performance from AMS² , Details from ACC and Rain from iR
I know I get blamed now but it would be intresting to have GT7 as well. I know it looses in any other catagory, But out of all NOS versions I've seen it looks by far the best.
I don't like GT7... the more I see it the funkier it gets. But man, their photorealistic visuals are out of this world. Well done to Polyphony. You take any screenshot and I swear it looks like an actual photograph. Amazing work on their behalf.
Just think, iracing would collapse in a week if any competitors could implement an online system better than what was available in the 80s. But here we are. Will AC2 be that? Probably not lol
@@mikecoates5574 it's much more than just the online system that keeps iRacing going. They have one of (if not the best) relationships between developers and users in the industry. The new rain model is just the latest example of that. But probably the biggest thing is car handling/vehicle dynamics. The cars feel and respond the way they ought, particularly on the brakes. There's a reason scores of professional racing drivers regularly race on iRacing and not on other titles.
True, i done a setup that kinda gets rid of them tbh. If i recall i put foliage and trees to high instead of epic and personally i think it looks even better as well. More frames, and slightly less pop in, sometimes its almost none at all. I also turned off that lod option but it doesn't change the shadow pop in. I think that is the jist of it if i recall.
So, picture this: I'm sitting here, torn between two virtual loves - ACC and Automobilista 2. They both look like they were born to rev my engine, but let's be real, my wallet's giving me side-eye. ACC is whispering sweet nothings, but I'm playing hard to get. I mean, sure, it looks sleeker than a freshly waxed Ferrari, but will I slap down the cash for it right now? Nah, not today, my friend. I'm adopting a wait-and-see approach, like a seasoned race driver scoping out the competition. I want to know what the new ACC is packing under the hood. Are we talking Monaco levels of excitement or just a stroll around the block?
Daytona Gear Ratio. Da haben die meisten GT3s eine extra Gearbox und das war wohl der Track, wo der M4 als erstes gefahren ist. Darum war das im Datensatz zu Beginn. Könnte man natürlich mal updaten... ;)
I've never driven AMS2 but it looks overall best. ACC looks great but is always a bit oversaturated like a post card. iracing has better lighting then ACC but (of course) far less details.
You know you can adjust the visuals/colors in-game right ? AMS2 looks good until you have it on a big screen and see how they got such good performance by rendering shadows as a way too low resolution.
Aaaaah yes, the usual "its oversaturated" comment. There is literally a saturation bar in the options. Couple this with contrast to get the right balance and you can get any shading and saturation you want. Be that as it may, real life has saturation. Im tired of everybody thinking less colour is more real. Its not. It only reminds you all of cameras and watching races on screens. Actual real life? Much more saturated than people think and perceive. Kinda tiring tbh after decades to still hear the same inaccurate comment. This was a trick we did back in ps1 days to get rid of colour burning and shades that looked like blotches of paint. We dropped contrast, saturation and sharpness, and job done. No need anymore. The colour shades and grading in todays visuals does not need this treatment anymore. The notion of too saturated is getting old by now, especially when again, its literally like 5 clicks away to adjust. Sooooo, why not drop the saturation? You know the answer to why... no need to say, it was a rhetorical question
@@kevinhadj82 Of course I know, that you can pull the saturation down. But it's a post processing feature. ACC renders oversaturated in the first place. If you pull saturation down you get tonal shifts and don't gain dynamic range. I don't say it looks bad. It looks like a post card and post cards always look nice, right. But post cards don't look real. At the end it's a question of taste. A lot of people like the look of the post card more. But there are also many who like realistic more. I'm just in the second group.
lol ... No one told me yet it's oversaturated. So how it could be old. After this video it was the first time I even think about. The saturation slider in ACC ist post processing. Shifting it in either direction das not improve anything. ACC is nice ... like a post card. But it's unrealistic like a post card too. If you have some expierience in color grading you know that. btw also the sound is all over the place. Sounds nice. But not realistic. IRacing on the other hand sounds way to weak.
@@MatzeOnTrack stop changing goal posts my friend and making up things as you go. Changing the saturation is not post processing, it is monitor adjustment. It is there for a reason. To be able to adjust a game to what the monitor setup is for each user first of all, and second to give control over the result they want. It has contrast and saturation there for selection for a reason.| It is better to have more colour saturated gradients that are defined and to turn them down rather than have less colour gradients and need to turn them up if the colours are washed out. Depending on the monitor and monitor setup colours can look either washed out or bleed out. You strike the balance between the two. As for realism, sorry my friend you are wrong. Again, real life is saturated, it has colour. Go outside and see. If unfortunately you live somewhere like Germany and your entire life is desaturated 90% of the time due to the lack of sun, its only your perception and region. Those of us on the other hand that live in the Mediterranean on the other hand and have ample light can see clearly how vibrant nature is when there is enough sunlight. So it all depends on weather conditions regional atmosphere as well etc. Clear day with sun? There are vibrant colours. End of story. The "realism" you people are talking about is non existent. Its washed out. For this reason ACC looks the most realistic in these conditions hands down. iRacing looks like washed out dick. And that other excuse of a game looks like it has too high gamma and not good ambient lighting. They all can do better with some ambient lighting colour, and there are aspects in AB2 that are nice visually as well but not realistic. Stop confusing yourself and making up stuff along the way. Drop the saturation and either increase or decrease the contrast of ACC to get something to your liking. I live in a country where the colours look vibrant 90% of the year, so I will adjust it more vibrant as that to me reflects more to actual real life. You on the other hand may live in a country that is dull 90% of the year. No biggy, adjust your monitor setup through the game to what feels more natural to you. But the fact of the matter is, real life is saturated. And no amount of arguing about it is going to change facts. "its too saturated, bluaaaaaa"... no, its not. Now if for you a dull desaturated less lighting higher contrast image in clouds and rain is your reference to how reality then, good for you, adjust the game to what suits you and move along. The rest of us that have travelled the world as well and have seen what nature looks like will enjoy the extra saturation just fine. ps, there are also colder, cold, neutral, warm and warmer options in the game. Why do you think this is? To further help better simulate even more to different peoples' reference. I personally change it depending on weather and country to better reflect what that immersion should be like, others leave it to one setting that suits them. Its not post processing, its called image adjustment. That is why it is there. Its not a fkng filter you throw on top. Its a basic output adjustment. Like your volume on your speakers. Increasing and decreasing it is not "audio mixing" ffs. Some people these days.
Sometimes i think ACC is too "easy" to drive. What i mean is that in most corners the throttle is an on/off Switch, and hey we have TC. Like smooth driving is not worth it or needed. Don't know if it is because of the GT Cars, and how realistic it realy is, but it feels like just mindlessly stomp the pedal.
Yes ACC wheels easy but i think real life that is the point. There can be lots of GT3 drivers.....pro and amateur drivers. But what make that hard is....when you must drive on your and your car limits....faster that others....thats make GT racing very hard.
Not sure on how realistic it actually is but its like that on most IRL onboards tbf. They don't really modulate the throttle much in any modern racing car it seems for the most part. Braking requires modulating more to be fast but throttle (with correct line etc) not so much it seems. LMU is the same in all cars really and that game feels amazing. Watch any on board of a modern racing car with TC and you will see its basically full throttle as soon as possible.
@@leonklose_hpr Yes, I have used it, friend, and the graphics match its physics and handling, horrendous. But since there are fans who have spent hundreds of dollars like you, they have to defend the game to the death, otherwise it would be admitting that they are being scammed.
I hear ya, unfortunately I have bought almost every track on road racing. So I'm pretty much stuck with it. I mean monthly subscription is not bad since it's the only sim I play anyway.
But if Ac Evo has something to offer and work with LFM maybe I'll take a break from iracing as lond as there is enough support for telemetry and different cars.
What do you like best? 😈
Well, I like Acc and AMS2, but I have to go with ACC because that is the sim that I actually own . My brother has a pretty good PC so I only get on AMS2 at this house .
rFactor 2 is missing
IMO, beside the feeling of FFB in track, the detail of the crowd in ACC is worth all the hype, specially the night stint, so alive, so colorful, so immersive, it really challenges your racing mindset to focus the race line, iit's just amazing 🤩🤩🤩
i just realized, there are no shadows in iracing
ACC -> AMS2 -> iRacing
I just realized, that what you realized is something I actually never realized while driving in iRacing.
That is not true, though. Search for "Iracing time lapse day night" here on RUclips and you can definatly see videos showing (dynamic) shadows - there are even dynamic cockpit shadows. Nils seems to be driving at 12:00 in the noon with the sun exactly on top. Unsure whether it would actually look like that on the real Nordschleife at 12:00 noon but there are pictures of other places on earth in the net where it is 12:00 noon and objects on the ground cast no shadow at all as the sunlight is coming directly from above - look it up on google: "Lahaina Noon" :)
Iracing's shadows don't look as modern and/or pronounced as on other games, though - I agree on that.
It’s because Nils turned them off. There are shadows in iracing.
@@lukaswarsitz3231 defensive much?
AMS² for ME best Look/Performance Ratio till first of April. Now, just best Performance ,but still very good. ACC has the latest Scan and highest grade on Detail, but very, very Performance hunrgy. I wish a Frankennords : Performance from AMS² , Details from ACC and Rain from iR
ams2 have by far the best looking ns
Vor kurzem die ersten Runden auf ACC gefahren. Erst sehr kritisch gesehen. Aber nun. Das kann süchtig machen. Und ja. Hat es auch.😅
Visuals: 1st ACC; 2nd AMS2 and last iRacing.
Audible: 1st AMS2; 2nd ACC and last iRacing
ACC > Automobilista 2 > Irental.
Couldn’t agree any better, but the “Irental” it’s a Cherry on the pie.😂😂
Top video. UE4 looks great for once with ACC
The last 2 maps kudos put out they have at last managed to use UE4 properly
Nordschleife: ACC > AMS2 > iRacing
Sound: AMS2 > ACC > iRacing
AMS2 is the only one that lets you run it across multiple seasons of the year. 😎
Lets not forget the most important part. AMS2 '71 Nordschelife allows for the Stehilstrecke cut through!
AMS2-ACC-iRacing. That's from a VR racing point of view. Extra points for AMS2 for the historic versions as well, which are brilliant.
I know I get blamed now but it would be intresting to have GT7 as well.
I know it looses in any other catagory, But out of all NOS versions I've seen it looks by far the best.
I don't have a PS5 unfortunately but maybe @EERIEREISSSS can have a look :)
I don't like GT7... the more I see it the funkier it gets. But man, their photorealistic visuals are out of this world. Well done to Polyphony. You take any screenshot and I swear it looks like an actual photograph. Amazing work on their behalf.
ACC=AMS2, iRacing 80´s...
90’s actually. It still reminds me of GPL.
Just think, iracing would collapse in a week if any competitors could implement an online system better than what was available in the 80s. But here we are. Will AC2 be that? Probably not lol
@@mikecoates5574 it's much more than just the online system that keeps iRacing going. They have one of (if not the best) relationships between developers and users in the industry. The new rain model is just the latest example of that. But probably the biggest thing is car handling/vehicle dynamics. The cars feel and respond the way they ought, particularly on the brakes. There's a reason scores of professional racing drivers regularly race on iRacing and not on other titles.
ACC hands down
AMS2-ACC-I-paying. The shadow pop-ins are bad on ACC or it would be first.
True, i done a setup that kinda gets rid of them tbh. If i recall i put foliage and trees to high instead of epic and personally i think it looks even better as well. More frames, and slightly less pop in, sometimes its almost none at all. I also turned off that lod option but it doesn't change the shadow pop in.
I think that is the jist of it if i recall.
So, picture this: I'm sitting here, torn between two virtual loves - ACC and Automobilista 2. They both look like they were born to rev my engine, but let's be real, my wallet's giving me side-eye.
ACC is whispering sweet nothings, but I'm playing hard to get. I mean, sure, it looks sleeker than a freshly waxed Ferrari, but will I slap down the cash for it right now? Nah, not today, my friend.
I'm adopting a wait-and-see approach, like a seasoned race driver scoping out the competition. I want to know what the new ACC is packing under the hood. Are we talking Monaco levels of excitement or just a stroll around the block?
wait for sale, get it all
Cheeky low 8 minute for the ACC video
ACC ist best NOS but i dont like to drive ACC :D AMS.......... I prefer Iracing its more fun to drive for me
Wie kann es sein dass das Getriebe bei iRacing so viel länger ist als bei den anderen zwei?
Daytona Gear Ratio. Da haben die meisten GT3s eine extra Gearbox und das war wohl der Track, wo der M4 als erstes gefahren ist. Darum war das im Datensatz zu Beginn. Könnte man natürlich mal updaten... ;)
I've never driven AMS2 but it looks overall best.
ACC looks great but is always a bit oversaturated like a post card.
iracing has better lighting then ACC but (of course) far less details.
You know you can adjust the visuals/colors in-game right ? AMS2 looks good until you have it on a big screen and see how they got such good performance by rendering shadows as a way too low resolution.
Aaaaah yes, the usual "its oversaturated" comment. There is literally a saturation bar in the options. Couple this with contrast to get the right balance and you can get any shading and saturation you want.
Be that as it may, real life has saturation.
Im tired of everybody thinking less colour is more real. Its not. It only reminds you all of cameras and watching races on screens. Actual real life? Much more saturated than people think and perceive.
Kinda tiring tbh after decades to still hear the same inaccurate comment. This was a trick we did back in ps1 days to get rid of colour burning and shades that looked like blotches of paint. We dropped contrast, saturation and sharpness, and job done.
No need anymore. The colour shades and grading in todays visuals does not need this treatment anymore.
The notion of too saturated is getting old by now, especially when again, its literally like 5 clicks away to adjust. Sooooo, why not drop the saturation?
You know the answer to why... no need to say, it was a rhetorical question
@@kevinhadj82 Of course I know, that you can pull the saturation down. But it's a post processing feature. ACC renders oversaturated in the first place. If you pull saturation down you get tonal shifts and don't gain dynamic range.
I don't say it looks bad. It looks like a post card and post cards always look nice, right. But post cards don't look real.
At the end it's a question of taste. A lot of people like the look of the post card more. But there are also many who like realistic more. I'm just in the second group.
lol ... No one told me yet it's oversaturated. So how it could be old. After this video it was the first time I even think about.
The saturation slider in ACC ist post processing. Shifting it in either direction das not improve anything.
ACC is nice ... like a post card. But it's unrealistic like a post card too. If you have some expierience in color grading you know that.
btw also the sound is all over the place. Sounds nice. But not realistic. IRacing on the other hand sounds way to weak.
@@MatzeOnTrack stop changing goal posts my friend and making up things as you go. Changing the saturation is not post processing, it is monitor adjustment. It is there for a reason. To be able to adjust a game to what the monitor setup is for each user first of all, and second to give control over the result they want.
It has contrast and saturation there for selection for a reason.|
It is better to have more colour saturated gradients that are defined and to turn them down rather than have less colour gradients and need to turn them up if the colours are washed out.
Depending on the monitor and monitor setup colours can look either washed out or bleed out. You strike the balance between the two.
As for realism, sorry my friend you are wrong. Again, real life is saturated, it has colour. Go outside and see. If unfortunately you live somewhere like Germany and your entire life is desaturated 90% of the time due to the lack of sun, its only your perception and region. Those of us on the other hand that live in the Mediterranean on the other hand and have ample light can see clearly how vibrant nature is when there is enough sunlight.
So it all depends on weather conditions regional atmosphere as well etc. Clear day with sun? There are vibrant colours. End of story. The "realism" you people are talking about is non existent. Its washed out. For this reason ACC looks the most realistic in these conditions hands down. iRacing looks like washed out dick. And that other excuse of a game looks like it has too high gamma and not good ambient lighting. They all can do better with some ambient lighting colour, and there are aspects in AB2 that are nice visually as well but not realistic. Stop confusing yourself and making up stuff along the way.
Drop the saturation and either increase or decrease the contrast of ACC to get something to your liking. I live in a country where the colours look vibrant 90% of the year, so I will adjust it more vibrant as that to me reflects more to actual real life. You on the other hand may live in a country that is dull 90% of the year. No biggy, adjust your monitor setup through the game to what feels more natural to you. But the fact of the matter is, real life is saturated. And no amount of arguing about it is going to change facts.
"its too saturated, bluaaaaaa"... no, its not. Now if for you a dull desaturated less lighting higher contrast image in clouds and rain is your reference to how reality then, good for you, adjust the game to what suits you and move along.
The rest of us that have travelled the world as well and have seen what nature looks like will enjoy the extra saturation just fine.
ps, there are also colder, cold, neutral, warm and warmer options in the game. Why do you think this is? To further help better simulate even more to different peoples' reference. I personally change it depending on weather and country to better reflect what that immersion should be like, others leave it to one setting that suits them. Its not post processing, its called image adjustment. That is why it is there. Its not a fkng filter you throw on top. Its a basic output adjustment. Like your volume on your speakers. Increasing and decreasing it is not "audio mixing" ffs.
Some people these days.
Did you set the same date and time of day?
i think both acc and ams2 were 1pm. iracing was 11am iirc
Sounds?? from what sim?
I just looked at the when they shifted gears and figured it out, but yeah an icon on screen would've been nice
I needed to give you guys a task and train your ears ;)
Iracing is 2008 game, can’t compare about the details
(So Iracing plz update yours Nur24 plz, We paid for that)
Its had updates bro.
By that standard AC1 is also old but with mods it looks even better at times than modern racers
I feel that I Racing doesn't look as good as AMS2 or ACC.
thats not just a feeling :D
Oh, just comment farming ;-)
Yes, AMS2 does it better
Sometimes i think ACC is too "easy" to drive. What i mean is that in most corners the throttle is an on/off Switch, and hey we have TC. Like smooth driving is not worth it or needed. Don't know if it is because of the GT Cars, and how realistic it realy is, but it feels like just mindlessly stomp the pedal.
the issue is turbo lag. even full throttle means theres a period of time to cover before full torque is available
Yes ACC wheels easy but i think real life that is the point. There can be lots of GT3 drivers.....pro and amateur drivers. But what make that hard is....when you must drive on your and your car limits....faster that others....thats make GT racing very hard.
Not sure on how realistic it actually is but its like that on most IRL onboards tbf. They don't really modulate the throttle much in any modern racing car it seems for the most part. Braking requires modulating more to be fast but throttle (with correct line etc) not so much it seems. LMU is the same in all cars really and that game feels amazing. Watch any on board of a modern racing car with TC and you will see its basically full throttle as soon as possible.
iracing graphics 2007 modernwarfare 1 hahahahah
Asking this question to a mostly ACC fanbase Community is weird🤣
what should I ask instead?
how horrible is iracing
probably never driven it yourself xD
@@leonklose_hpr Yes, I have used it, friend, and the graphics match its physics and handling, horrendous. But since there are fans who have spent hundreds of dollars like you, they have to defend the game to the death, otherwise it would be admitting that they are being scammed.
@@OmareMorepreach brother. IRacing fans are almost as bad as gt7 fanboys and Blizzard fanboys....... almost.
@@DCFHazardRebornChannel exacto.
If only it wasn't the only game in town for actual online racing... lol
Iracing=multiplayer participation
The other two are either pretty or sound pretty
Iracing=way too much cost to look at very old graphics and use crappy ffb/physics. But there are people there...lol
I hear ya, unfortunately I have bought almost every track on road racing. So I'm pretty much stuck with it. I mean monthly subscription is not bad since it's the only sim I play anyway.
Also I like to produce top lap times and not be mid pack, LFM Ac1 does not have enough support from alien creator.
Trophie AI is free and supports some of most popular fixed setup series. Then you got VRS blap ghost file. It's just what works for me.
But if Ac Evo has something to offer and work with LFM maybe I'll take a break from iracing as lond as there is enough support for telemetry and different cars.
AMS2 -> ACC -> why is iracing even in this list?