I wish you did basic research before doing a video. The plane in the video has a corvair engine. You can build a new one of these for 60K with a viking engine, and they build easy and fast. Used one sells for around 30-40k and if you buy an old 601xlb kit you can finish one of those for around 30K. They cruise between 110-130mph and if not trying to stay light sport can easily carry anything you can fit in them. The best part about them is how simple they are to maintain which keeps the cost down and the smiles per dollar up.
the existence of kit planes make me even more motivated to get my pilots license. honestly planes are awesome (hense why im studying aerospace engineering). your channel has introduced me to so many new aircrafts and types of aircrafts I've never ever heard of! awesome video
Maybe build a plane first then go into your local flight school. It can be very cheap on training and a lot of schools and instructors now teach in your plane if you ask.
Which was upgraded because the 601 started falling apart in the air. Zenith never really found out why but the design's reputation never really recovered, hence the redisgn and the 750 Cruzer.
Beautiful bird. Thank you, MojoGrip, for your videos. You are adding to the knowledge and awareness of the human race, something every sentient human should strive to do.
Zenith says on their website that these will do 139 knots true airspeed (so about 160 MPH) at 8,000 ft MSL @ 75% (and obviously slower at lower altitudes). That depends on your power plant, but the three options they list aren’t that different in performance specs.
Like a lot of manufacturers, Zenith likes to embellish the performance numbers. Most owners report speeds matching that of a C172, but not really exceeding it. There’s a video of one with a 130 hp Viking engine trueing 120 kts at 9,500 ft.
I built one with 3 others for $70,000 with Rotax 912 ULS (most expensive but most reliable in 2016) and a Dynon glass panel with autopilot. We do 110 to 115 kts cruise. Been flying for 7 years now and almost 800 hours. I've flown from WA to OSH twice, in 2017 and 2019. Kit isn't that much more now in 2024 but engines have gone up. And we put all options on the plane. Stock fuel tanks are 20 gal, 30 is optional. Wing lockers for extra storage are optional. We also have all the options for Dynon, but in most cases they are built in the basic screen and just need options like servos to use autopilot. The transponder and radio are built in also. I get inflight real time weather. Example to what a glass panel can do: a round gauge gives you airspeed. The Dynon gives you airspeed, true airspeed, gps over the ground speed, wind speed and direction, and crosswind component. And engine monitoring is part of the Dynon (we only have one screen), just need to add the sensors/sending units.
Where we can get more info about all the prices that involves building an airplane. I mean, the kit is 30k, let's say that the engine is 20k and avionics 10k. Why it says is 100k to have it finished????
It might not be available in USA, you may have to bring it over from Europe or maybe there is similar in USA but the german made FK14 polaris can be had well below 100k$, it's factory built composite LSA, I believe around 250km/h cruise (nearly same speed as cessna 172) because it's aerodynamic and it looks like a real sporty plane. uses mogas rotax 912 so very efficient.
Zenith is in both US and Canada. I bought my 650 kit from Zenith in Missouri. All built in USA. Dynon is USA with all US components. Rotax engine is Austria but Viking is Honda modified in US for aircraft use (I think some components made overseas). Plane above has Corvair - all US, discontinued but many old cores available cheap; they require extensive modification. Another popular engine is Continental O-200, now being made again - in US but might have some foreign components. If you want al all US aircraft, build a Zenith, put in a Dynon, and power with US engine. If you build it, you are the manufacturer.
Do you recommend someone who is still working on obtaining a sport pilot license to buy a kit and begin building one of these? ? Should you have some engineering experience to attempt a build like this ? I am mechanically inclined but wouldnt want to dump 40k into something that I cant complete or worse attempt to fly it and have something go terribly wrong.
First thing you have to have to build an airplane, you have to be dumb enough to think you can do it. Next if you have to ask if you can do it, you can't. Confidence required. Next you have to be obsessed. You should have done so much reading, when you do ask a question it should be something like, "if I messed up a piece, can I replace it with 3003 series aluminum or do I need the 2024". Last you have to be tough because if you're gonna be dumb well... Things are gonna happen that would break most men of means. You have to be able to get past these challenges with out it ending your journey. Next you're gonna need a lot of money especially if you haven't already spent a lifetime buying every tool you see. Does your garage have a heater? If not and you think you're gonna go out there all winter, game over. You'll have to become an expert in heating and cooling. Can you install a window unit ac and a wood stove? If not you shouldn't try and build a plane. What's the light situation like. Gonna need lots of light. Is 5700k gonna be good or 3200k? You know what I'm saying brother... Lastly no wife and no kids, if you do try and build one with a wife and kids, I'll be by in 3 years to buy your 15 percent project for about 4500 bucks.
That’s exactly what I did. I bought and built a kit before getting my sport license. I decided on this zenith model because of how easy it is to build. Without going to an ultralight the zenith kits are about as easy and fast to build as there is.
40K? Do some more research. You will spend over $100K by the time you get the FWF, Engine, Avionics, etc. The kit is only $40K and doesn't include any of that. I almost got sucked into buying one. By the time you purchase all of the parts they don't list, you might as well buy a Vans RV-12iS. The cost is pretty close.
@@destro513 Exactly. I'm starting a video series of my scratch build sonerai 2. First episode? Setting up the shop. I literally just built a full shop specifically to build an airplane in. Unfortunately work made me move so I'm stuck building in a regular garage again.
I ordered a tail kit for one of these and an RV12 to evaluate the quality of the kit, including manuals, instructions and drawings. The RV12 is far superior in my opinion and is the kit I am going finish.
Friend, it bothers me that you don't make the effort to know the data, option and even basic aircraft terms when you do one of these segments on a plane. I found you channel several years ago but stopped watching because you were imprecise when you could have been and sounded like you were guessing or generalizing to fill a segment. I came back hoping you had seasoned up a bit and would no longer adlib or make a segment with a good grip on what you were talking about before you recorded the segment. You tossed names of engine builders but within those four there has to be at least ten different engine sizes plus a number of prop choices and a price range of tens of thousands of dollars. You assumed the pedals were adjustable (and might be an option) but fumbled when that particular aircraft wasn't equipped that way. A builder choices of glass panel instraments versus old faithful steam guages could make thousands of dollars difference which prospective builders might want to know in this class of homebuilt along with the price difference on a quick-build versus a pure parts project and the projected time difference would be nice to know. I really think you could a better, more informative and honest assessment if you ditched the loose, generalized and word salad hype in favor of a fact-driven presentation you could get right off a sales brochure or their maker's website.
Wrong. I built one. Most have Rotax, next is either Corvair (like one above) or Viking, then ULS. The O-200. If any have a VW then probably less than 10 out of hundreds built. The VW is popular for many amateur built aircraft (mostly older ones), but not any of the Zenith models.
That's one way to tell it is a Corvair engine. Aircraft engines can turn either way and sometimes, as in the case of twin engine, the same engine might turn one way on one engine and the other way on the other engine. Called counterrotating and that way the P or torque factor is minimal.
I flew one of these once. It is a total piece of junk. Worst airplane I ever flew.. There are so many problems but just to name the worst, those semi relining seats are the worst, the canopy is not big enough and forces you to bend your head so after 20 minutes your neck is killing you, there is no directional stability because the tail is way way to small. And the wind material is so flimsy if you step on it too hard it bends.
Sorry you had a bad experience. Most of us 601-650 owners love our airplanes. I assume you are tall and you were in a 601. The 650 has a larger canopy but I fit fine in my 601XL.
Ive been waiting for this video, building one myself and cant wait to get it in the air. Mine is at 40k WITH engine
I wish you did basic research before doing a video. The plane in the video has a corvair engine. You can build a new one of these for 60K with a viking engine, and they build easy and fast. Used one sells for around 30-40k and if you buy an old 601xlb kit you can finish one of those for around 30K. They cruise between 110-130mph and if not trying to stay light sport can easily carry anything you can fit in them. The best part about them is how simple they are to maintain which keeps the cost down and the smiles per dollar up.
the existence of kit planes make me even more motivated to get my pilots license. honestly planes are awesome (hense why im studying aerospace engineering). your channel has introduced me to so many new aircrafts and types of aircrafts I've never ever heard of! awesome video
Maybe build a plane first then go into your local flight school. It can be very cheap on training and a lot of schools and instructors now teach in your plane if you ask.
Great Video, but it's not a "Low Wing Version of the 750" It's an upgraded version of the 601
Which was upgraded because the 601 started falling apart in the air.
Zenith never really found out why but the design's reputation never really recovered, hence the redisgn and the 750 Cruzer.
That one has a corvair engine. The Jabiru spins the same as lycoming/continental.
Beautiful bird. Thank you, MojoGrip, for your videos. You are adding to the knowledge and awareness of the human race, something every sentient human should strive to do.
Zenith says on their website that these will do 139 knots true airspeed (so about 160 MPH) at 8,000 ft MSL @ 75% (and obviously slower at lower altitudes). That depends on your power plant, but the three options they list aren’t that different in performance specs.
Like a lot of manufacturers, Zenith likes to embellish the performance numbers. Most owners report speeds matching that of a C172, but not really exceeding it. There’s a video of one with a 130 hp Viking engine trueing 120 kts at 9,500 ft.
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Beautiful aircraft.
Prop spins Clock wise so its fitted with Corvair or VW
It’s corvair. It’s a friends plane.
Jabiru engines are great . Power to weight excellent mine stock is actually putting out 135 hp. The 650 would be a rocket with a jabiru in it .
Made one. 0235. Love it.
OMG, that's a beautiful airplane
If you're pushing six figures on a 650 build then you're doing it wrong.
Correct. Change out of $80 000 is about right.
Glass cockpit & autopilot likely run the numbers up.
I built one with 3 others for $70,000 with Rotax 912 ULS (most expensive but most reliable in 2016) and a Dynon glass panel with autopilot. We do 110 to 115 kts cruise. Been flying for 7 years now and almost 800 hours. I've flown from WA to OSH twice, in 2017 and 2019. Kit isn't that much more now in 2024 but engines have gone up. And we put all options on the plane. Stock fuel tanks are 20 gal, 30 is optional. Wing lockers for extra storage are optional. We also have all the options for Dynon, but in most cases they are built in the basic screen and just need options like servos to use autopilot. The transponder and radio are built in also. I get inflight real time weather. Example to what a glass panel can do: a round gauge gives you airspeed. The Dynon gives you airspeed, true airspeed, gps over the ground speed, wind speed and direction, and crosswind component. And engine monitoring is part of the Dynon (we only have one screen), just need to add the sensors/sending units.
Where we can get more info about all the prices that involves building an airplane. I mean, the kit is 30k, let's say that the engine is 20k and avionics 10k. Why it says is 100k to have it finished????
BTW it looks like a Corvair engine in that beautiful polished airplane.
That specific plane had a FlyCorvair motor.
Very nice. Didn't kno they made aircrafts too. I will hav to do a review on this as well. See ya on tha nxt one. #salute my gud brotha!!!!
It might not be available in USA, you may have to bring it over from Europe or maybe there is similar in USA but the german made FK14 polaris can be had well below 100k$, it's factory built composite LSA, I believe around 250km/h cruise (nearly same speed as cessna 172) because it's aerodynamic and it looks like a real sporty plane. uses mogas rotax 912 so very efficient.
Zenith is in both US and Canada. I bought my 650 kit from Zenith in Missouri. All built in USA. Dynon is USA with all US components. Rotax engine is Austria but Viking is Honda modified in US for aircraft use (I think some components made overseas). Plane above has Corvair - all US, discontinued but many old cores available cheap; they require extensive modification. Another popular engine is Continental O-200, now being made again - in US but might have some foreign components. If you want al all US aircraft, build a Zenith, put in a Dynon, and power with US engine. If you build it, you are the manufacturer.
Nice looking plane. But ! how fast is it.
I pray you were able to review the new Tecnam P2010 TDI
Very Nice Bro! Get Good People/Pilots!
Good job.
Do you recommend someone who is still working on obtaining a sport pilot license to buy a kit and begin building one of these? ? Should you have some engineering experience to attempt a build like this ? I am mechanically inclined but wouldnt want to dump 40k into something that I cant complete or worse attempt to fly it and have something go terribly wrong.
First thing you have to have to build an airplane, you have to be dumb enough to think you can do it. Next if you have to ask if you can do it, you can't. Confidence required. Next you have to be obsessed. You should have done so much reading, when you do ask a question it should be something like, "if I messed up a piece, can I replace it with 3003 series aluminum or do I need the 2024". Last you have to be tough because if you're gonna be dumb well... Things are gonna happen that would break most men of means. You have to be able to get past these challenges with out it ending your journey. Next you're gonna need a lot of money especially if you haven't already spent a lifetime buying every tool you see. Does your garage have a heater? If not and you think you're gonna go out there all winter, game over. You'll have to become an expert in heating and cooling. Can you install a window unit ac and a wood stove? If not you shouldn't try and build a plane. What's the light situation like. Gonna need lots of light. Is 5700k gonna be good or 3200k? You know what I'm saying brother... Lastly no wife and no kids, if you do try and build one with a wife and kids, I'll be by in 3 years to buy your 15 percent project for about 4500 bucks.
That’s exactly what I did. I bought and built a kit before getting my sport license. I decided on this zenith model because of how easy it is to build. Without going to an ultralight the zenith kits are about as easy and fast to build as there is.
40K? Do some more research. You will spend over $100K by the time you get the FWF, Engine, Avionics, etc. The kit is only $40K and doesn't include any of that. I almost got sucked into buying one. By the time you purchase all of the parts they don't list, you might as well buy a Vans RV-12iS. The cost is pretty close.
@@destro513 Exactly. I'm starting a video series of my scratch build sonerai 2.
First episode? Setting up the shop.
I literally just built a full shop specifically to build an airplane in. Unfortunately work made me move so I'm stuck building in a regular garage again.
I ordered a tail kit for one of these and an RV12 to evaluate the quality of the kit, including manuals, instructions and drawings. The RV12 is far superior in my opinion and is the kit I am going finish.
4:25 what's the lever between the seats at shoulder height? also guessing it's a jabiru engine or something like it, the prop spins "backwards".
It's the canopy handle :)
@@waynevanhardeveld4707 aha! thanks :)
Think i found my plan
I would love to do the 650. Beaf it up for a 150 hp. Maybe more.
Some of the high-wing 701/750’s have them.
What is the useful load with the rotax vs. continental
About 50-60 pounds difference.
You look very different in person.
There are some email can i sent to you ? Thank you and thank you to share your passion for the airplanes
I just got the 601XLB
How do you like it? I'm looking at one now. What did you pay?
Hammer Kiste👌
It’s like a tiny version of a P-51
Friend, it bothers me that you don't make the effort to know the data, option and even basic aircraft terms when you do one of these segments on a plane. I found you channel several years ago but stopped watching because you were imprecise when you could have been and sounded like you were guessing or generalizing to fill a segment.
I came back hoping you had seasoned up a bit and would no longer adlib or make a segment with a good grip on what you were talking about before you recorded the segment. You tossed names of engine builders but within those four there has to be at least ten different engine sizes plus a number of prop choices and a price range of tens of thousands of dollars. You assumed the pedals were adjustable (and might be an option) but fumbled when that particular aircraft wasn't equipped that way. A builder choices of glass panel instraments versus old faithful steam guages could make thousands of dollars difference which prospective builders might want to know in this class of homebuilt along with the price difference on a quick-build versus a pure parts project and the projected time difference would be nice to know.
I really think you could a better, more informative and honest assessment if you ditched the loose, generalized and word salad hype in favor of a fact-driven presentation you could get right off a sales brochure or their maker's website.
Gotta agree, it's a very lazy and uninformative review. Kinda thing ya would expect from the snowflake generation.
The 650 predates the 750 by a lot.
Not continental. It has a Corvair engine in it.
Always carry a tape measure in your pocket for these reviews,
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Zenith's usually have the VW conversations...
Wrong. I built one. Most have Rotax, next is either Corvair (like one above) or Viking, then ULS. The O-200. If any have a VW then probably less than 10 out of hundreds built. The VW is popular for many amateur built aircraft (mostly older ones), but not any of the Zenith models.
Man, talk about a basic, no frills aircraft.
What were you expecting from an LSA?
The propeller turns the wrong way!
That's one way to tell it is a Corvair engine. Aircraft engines can turn either way and sometimes, as in the case of twin engine, the same engine might turn one way on one engine and the other way on the other engine. Called counterrotating and that way the P or torque factor is minimal.
Zeenith 😂
So many inaccuracies in this video.
ALHAMDULILLAH(SWT), ASTAGHFIRULLAH(SWT).
Please learn about the plane before making a video about it.
I flew one of these once. It is a total piece of junk. Worst airplane I ever flew.. There are so many problems but just to name the worst, those semi relining seats are the worst, the canopy is not big enough and forces you to bend your head so after 20 minutes your neck is killing you, there is no directional stability because the tail is way way to small. And the wind material is so flimsy if you step on it too hard it bends.
Sorry you had a bad experience. Most of us 601-650 owners love our airplanes. I assume you are tall and you were in a 601. The 650 has a larger canopy but I fit fine in my 601XL.
@@DougBinderCozy4 How tall are you? I just bought an incomplete 601xl kit and trying to decide if it is worth upgrading to the 650 canopy. I'm 6'2"
@@deutschlehrer51 I'm 5'10". If you don't have the canopy, I would upgrade to the 650, otherwise. I would try what you have.