2021 Volkl Kanjo 84 Ski Review with SkiEssentials com
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- Опубликовано: 2 дек 2020
- We're back on snow at Stowe Mountain Resort and thought we'd take the opportunity to do a more in-depth review of the redesigned Volkl Kanjo 84!
Written Review: www.skiessentials.com/Chairli...
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Just bought them, in the middle of a lockdown, first non 100% on-piste ski I ve owned so I can't wait to try them on next winter 😭😭😭😭
Thank you for another great review, Jeff! I love hearing about all-mountain skis that can ski both groomers and moguls well!
Skied on last year’s model last season. Really fun skis with all the attributes you want from an all mountain ski! I just bought the new model pre-season. Can’t wait to see the difference.
I think anyone who liked the previous version will really enjoy the new one too. Similar performance overall, but a little more responsiveness.
The filming on this is fire
Fantastic review, as always. I really enjoy your elaborations.
Thanks Michael!
Last year, I rented the 2020 version for a week with my parents, brother and sister (all advanced at least, father expert in traditionnal backcoutry, but a bit older for my parents, so slower rythm). Condition were decent powder for the alps but not that much, with a true allmountain program. Found the ski actually really fun in moderate powder for relatively fast shortish turns (kinda remininding me of a better version of a climb oriented backcountry ski) and for moderate speed on the groomer (sub 70 km/h) mix of small turns and carve. But they clearly lacked for higher speed deeper pow, semi transformed offpiste at speed and going fast on the groomer (above 80 km/h). They also lacked a tiny bit of responsivness at moderate speed (40-70 km/h) though nothing major. Still I think I can still consider them for a second "chiller family day" all-mountain ski once my quiver gets a bit fuller, especially since those are the kind of skis you can lend to an invited intermediate+ friend.
I was considering renting the kendo 88 this Xmas to test it for a buy, but the lifts are closed for Covid and most of the backcountry routes are actually forbidden by the French state in fear of untrained resort skiers going backcountry without experience of snow/ avalanches .., so I couldn't and "only" backountry skied in remote or authorized places.
Thanks for the feedback! Love hearing other experiences. I think that's a really fair assessment of it. It's definitely not as stable at speed or through choppy snow as something like the Kendo. If you can find a way, the Kendo would be a really fun comparison. You lose a little bit of the slow speed responsiveness with the Kendo, but also gain a ton of stability and vibration damping. If you like charging through off-piste snow, Kendo is probably a better choice, but it's not as appropriate to lend to the recreational intermediate!
Hi guys, great review as always. Completely off topic but i was wondering if you could ever get your hands on the cast touring binding/conversion kit for the pivots. Keep it up! Thx again
We certainly could! Are you looking for a review/comparison? I'd be happy to reach out to the CAST guys and see if we can make something happen.
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I have a pair and love the performance on piste, in tress and moguls! I would like to start doing parks especially jumps. Wonder if kanjo can do well in jumps? How about rails and boxes? Thanks!
It's fine. it's not a twin tip so that's limiting your switch abilities. On rails and boxes, again it's fine, but there are some twin tips that are built with beefier bases, sidewalls, and edges to hold up to the non-snow surfaces that park specific skis encounter.
I've really been on the fence between these and the kendo 88, so hearing and seeing an in-depth review really helps. Just wondering what you would recommend for size, I'm 5'10",195...so, 175 on these?
175 or 182 cm. I think 175 cm is perfectly reasonable, but if you're an aggressive skier and/or like to ski fast, it wouldn't be crazy to bump up to the 182 cm length either. More stability for your weight if you like to ski fast. If you stick to moderate speeds, the 175 is best.
Great review, thanks. Im looking for a new addition for longer, a bit more relaxed allmountain skies beside my current 161cm/73waist carvers and kinda narrowed it down for few options. Kanjo being one of them, others Deacon 84 and K2 mindbender 90.
I do mostly groomers but some off-piste as well, say 80/20. The close by playground has short slopes and my aim is versatile, playful but reasonably stiff skies what does not give up in occasional aggressive skiing and can handle speed w calm and precise matter. Quick edge to edge would be also highly looked after... Im 180/90kg advanced skier who is looking forward to become expert someday 😉 Whats your recommendation out of those options, or should I look some other ones also? Cheers.
Hello! The Kanjo 84 actually sounds like a perfect ski for you. I think the 80/20 split of groomers/off-piste is very appropriate for that ski. The Deacon leans a little more towards being a frontside-specific ski. The Kanjo is noticeably quicker edge to edge than the Mindbender 90 too. A little narrower, and lighter on your feet, so just a little snappier and more responsive. I do think the Mindbender is more stable at high speeds, but it doesn't sound like that's a huge concern, and the Kanjo won't be particularly unstable either. Kanjo feels like the way to go to me.
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how does this compare to the Head V10?
Another Fantastic review , could you please suggest a binding for Kanjo 84. Thanks .
Marker Griffon 13 Id, possibly in the new teal and green colour, Marker and Volkl are in the same family.
New Marker Griffon would be a good choice for sure. We also use a lot of Tyrolia Attack 13s on skis like this. Both bindings are wide with low stand heights, which work really well for all-mountain skis.
I've loved my Brahma 88 (180cm) for the past 6 years. I'm 175cm and 76kg and the Brahma I guess has always been too long? If I was to go for the Kanjo, would you recommend the 168 or the 175?
Thanks!
I'd go 175. Certainly lighter and more maneuverable than the Brahma--I think the drop to the 168 would be on the drastic side.
I have the 2018 version. This year tried to change up to the 2020 Armada ARV 96. IMO either the Kanjo is just a really a very forgiving/responsive ski that allows you to carve. Find that I have to really work to get the Armada ARV 96’s to carve without losing an edge.
Makes sense to me just based on their shape. Much more tail rocker in the ARV and a softer overall flex, so you have to stay more balanced without them losing edge grip.
@@SkiEssentials would it be worth having the bindings moved to the factory recommended setting? Currently mounted for freestyle.
@@chrisdembek That would help with carving for sure, but would of course take away some freestyle performance. Less balanced for spins and stuff like that.
In one of your comparison videos Bob was talking about wanting to see the construction and shape from the fatter freeride skis in a narrower ski. Would you say this qualifies?
Yes! Even though the materials are a little different, it's cool to see some of the construction technology and overall design elements trickle down from skis like the M5 Mantra and Katana 108 into these Kanjos.
I just bought a brand new pair of these skis and length (yes, 2021) and wanted to know the bindings you had on these skis.
Looks like a Griffon Demo binding, consisting of a TCX heel piece.
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Could you do a review on the J skis Hotshot?
If we get a chance! We'll certainly keep it in mind.
How would you compare this ski to the Elan Wingman range?
The Wingman is more of a frontside, groomer, carving ski, this is a more of a versatile all mountain ski
I agree that the Wingman is designed more for carving performance, and the Kanjo more for versatility. Realistically, they're fairly close in intended application, and I think both fall into the all-mountain "category," but the Wingman does feel stiffer, has more edge grip, etc, but that's at the cost of versatility and some forgiveness as well.
How does this ski compare to the navigator 85?
Quite similar! I always find the Kanjo 84 feels a little more playful, easier in moguls, stuff like that. The Navigator carves a little better, or at least the tail shape and construction finishes a carve a little better. Overall, they perform very similarly, but that's where I feel the biggest difference.
What kind of snow pants are you wearing?
That's the Orage Gibson 3L Bib.
Hi team how would the 176 atomic 86 c compare to this in 175 thanks
The Atomic feels lighter on the feet while the Kanjo has more of a stable feel to it at speed. If you're looking for quickness and agility, I'd lean to the Atomic, but for more energy and pop, the Kanjo is a fantastic ski.
How does it compare to K2 Mindbender 90ti?
Kanjo definitely feels lighter, quicker, and more responsive. The Mindbender is more stable at speed, however, and has more vibration damping. Similarly versatile for on and off-piste, but they definitely have a different feel.
How does it compare to Kore 87
Similar, although I think you get more responsiveness and more feedback out of the Kanjo 84, mostly because it has a longer effective edge. On the other hand, the Kore is arguably more maneuverable in off-piste terrain as it has more pronounced rocker.