If they interviewed him about his 1911 press check, he'd be like, "You know I've been shooting guns for the last 40 years, and many people, you know swat, navy seals, marines, and even police departments, just come up to me and be like, you know, I just learned so much from you can you teach me anything else?"
Quick Dubbs then again a Navy SEAL and inventor of the “Rowland Special” recently got drunk and shot his brother in law in the ass accidentally. So not sure who to pay attention too?
Quick Dubbs I do believe he is a marksman. There was that time as a part time sheriff’s deputy he got into a crash vehicle and push down a suspects door killing multiple chickens and a puppy. He was able to hit all of them in one motion. He and the department were later sued when the charges were dropped against the suspect.
It was the way to go back before the full length guide rod was the hot ticket. Cooper did not care for those because they had a reputation for breaking, probably on the same basis as wings used to fall off of airplanes before they got that sorted out.
this press check was taught old days nowdays that is dangerous (finger in trigger) so nobody taught it but i use this press check because why not? it looks cool!
@@hoppinggnomethe4154 False. That exact type of press check shown in this video was taught by (and likely developed at) Jeff Cooper’s Gunsite for decades. I don’t do it, I don’t agree with it, but it does have significant historical legitimacy backing it up.
@@rifleshooterchannel208 Can confirm. James Caan was taught how to clear rooms and handle a 1911 by Jeff Cooper at his Arizona Gunsite Academy for the film Thief. He performs a press check exactly like this on his custom Jim Hoag 1911 in the film.
I often don't do a press check, however when I do I do it like you do, thanks again for the video, Blessings to you and your family my Brother in Arms.
I have always done the one-handed, because in the dark, you can physically feel the case with a finger of the off hand, or if you can't take your eyes off whatever you are preparing to shoot. Recently though, i have found it far more useful to use moments when I have forgotten to chamber a round as an opportunity to practice "tap,rack, bang."
Always surprises me that the curator of the pinch check thought it was a good idea to put a finger in the trigger bay to "check" for a chambered round. 10/10 trigger safety
@@MrTangent No one knows for sure, but it's viewable in old training material. It's not a "Steven" specific press check. It just gets called his because people don't do research and his movies are just popular enough for them to form an opinion that it must have come from him since he's easier to look for than old training tapes.
@@macdaddymario Interesting. I’m an older* shooter (been shooting since the early 80’s), and I had never seen this method. And both my Dad and his father were hunters. Not saying it’s not a thing, but I’ve been reading Guns & Ammo and similar magazines for forever… crazy how I missed it. older* by youtube viewer standards.
@@MrTangent Then I mean no offense but you've not looked too hard. Col. Jeff Cooper was teaching this for decades before Steve came along. It was 100% the taught way to press check. Beyond that, Hollywood weapons trainers also taught the method, which is who I was talking about with no one knowing for sure. No one can point to a specific Hollywood trainer as the guy that started teaching it and made it a thing there. There are a number of films even before Steve's time that show this method, but Col. Jeff Cooper, the man who created the modern firearm teqnique, started teaching firearm courses in 76'. A man that had more firearms knowledge than... probably most of this comment section combined, did teach the method for decades before Segal came along.
@@macdaddymario I’m very familiar with Col. Jeff Cooper. Just don’t recall seeing him demonstrate this method. Of course time and memory might have erased it, and I’ve also had brain surgery after a traumatic injury (no joking). But yeah, don’t recall it. Even googling doesn’t seem to bring it up. Where’d you see it?
Wasn't just his press check. Was taught that way at the time. Phased out *because* of the thumb thing. But go back to old training videos, you'll see them teach it the way Steven is shown doing it.
He has some of the finest 1911s built. Chambers customs 1911. Big collector. And he can shoot in real life. In spite of the safety issue with his press checks.
To be honest, it is kind of hard not to have good aim with a 1911. I have a 1911 and it is the only pistol I can shoot quarter size groups with. Also, did you actually watch the video on the Lawman show? Every time they show him shooting, they zoom up on him and then after he's all done, then they show the target. They never show him shooting at the target in the same frame. However the guy he's with they show both him shooting and the target in one frame yet he's always doing worse than Seagal.
I've been shooting for over 50 years and have never heard of this Steven Seagal press check until right now. I can't believe anyone would ever consider doing it.
The earliest example of this kind of press check I can recall is in the 1981 film Thief. James Caan's character did this with his long-slide 1911. Al Pacino's character did the same thing with his 1911 and Robert De Niro did a (arguably more dangerous) variation with a SIG P226 in Heat. Both films were directed by Michael Mann and I assume all three characters received their firearms training in the late 70's when it was still acceptable to do something like this. Either way, don't do press checks like this, kids. We are men, we are not animals.
This press check method is only as dangerous as you make it! People need to understand that the gun isn't just gonna go off unless you pull the trigger. That Colt of yours is an absolute beauty, by the way!
You know the old adage , the loudest sound in the world is a click as your hammer drops on an empty chamber in a gunfight. I definitely see the necessity of verifying that you have a round chambered in a carry gun and in the absence of a loaded chamber indicator I personally usually use the pinch method to verify but to each his own I guess.
I saw Jeff Cooper doing this before. With regards to press checks....why not check how many rounds you have left in the magazine after you chambered a round?
Knowing the dangerous possibilities that can occur with the Seagal press check, I pretty much grew accustomed to the underhanded press check (aka grabbing the slide from under like how you would with a shotgun), the front slide gripping press check, and the John Wick style one handed press check. All 3 are the ones I mostly prefer, and thank you for this video. Although I never really got my hands on a real-steel firearm, and the closest being the Airsoft Glock 19c, you did show the safest ways of doing press checks with a handgun, be it a Glock, a CZ-75, a Beretta 92FS, a 1911, any types of handguns known here and there.
Who the heck would even have a "Seagal press check" even as a possible method to press check? I mean you shouldn't base your firearms safety on a movie. I recommend taking a safety class.
I remember the Steven Seagal press check. I’ve done it a couple times. Yeah, definitely not safe way to check for a round in the chamber. I also remember in the movie “Heat” the two main stars in that movie did the exact thing. If you don’t remember, go back and watch and you’ll see.
You see it in almost every Michael Mann flick. James Caan's character in Thief does that press check, and I think one of the characters in Manhunter does a press check that way, too.
I haven't seen anybody do the seagal check but if I do I would probably ask them if they enjoy having there fingers. I use my forward serrations to press check my duty 1911 and use the rear serrations on my off duty 1911.
Pacino did a similar brass check in "Heat", except he kept his thumbs outside of the trigger guard. That's how I do it for better or for worse. IIRC, Keanu does the one handed check in "Street Kings".
I have seen several old timers do it at my range. The shop employees say they have had one ND with it. Someone instead of doing pinch technique, did a "index finger pull technique" and didn't push the thumb so it went straight into the trigger. Boom.
The way i press check my Beretta M9 is hooking my index and middle fingers on the safety on both sides, place my thumb on the tail. I pull with my index and middle-finger and push my thumb against the tail. It works great for me.
Steven Seagal is actually a huge 1911 fanatic. He has a sizable collection of them and some of them are custom made. I do feel that Seagal has a tendency to portray himself as a "beat you up in real life" character in his movies. You should see that video of him in Lawman where he's taking this guy to the range to shoot and he has a 1911 and sweating profusely. They never show him shooting and what he's hitting on the target in the same frame. It's always him shooting, then they show this amazing group. Whereas his friend on the same range they would show him shooting, not too bad, but somehow not as good and they'd show him and him shooting in the same frame. I guess watching that and watching his movies, probably not a good idea to copy anything this guy does. I recall seeing the shot in the Under Siege movie and even while press checking it this way, he's pointing it directly to the actress head.
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If you just loaded a weapon and you keep up the maintenance on it then press checks are useless on a pistol. I can understand if you do a battlefield pick up but after just loading your weapon there is not point in doing so. The way you are doing it at the end of the video is the proper and safe method.
If you do not pull the slide all the way back, it glides over-top of the round in the magazine without catching it. My GF does this often. Press check is to make sure it actually grabbed a round and it's in the chamber.
I had no idea he had his name on that particular press check. back in the 1911s hay day that was how it was done, that was how some folks were instructed to press check the 1911. but the trick is to not be depressing the trigger safety lol.
My preferred method is to hook thumb of support hand underneath beaver tail, and pull back slide with index finger, forming an “ok” sign, using the rear sight for leverage. Anyone else do it that way?
The "pinch" can be done withOUT pressing the grip-safety ON, but more importantly, it can be done very close to the body--hunched over--and, therefore, muzzle DOWN... vs. when you do the tug-on-rear-of-slide check--because your arms are now extended AWAY from your torso--notice how HIGH above the horizon the muzzle rises to get an eyeball on that chamber... WITH the grip-safety fully depressed the whole time, i.e. OFF!... such that if you DO have an ND, it goes into someone's head (or out a window), vs into the floor/ground. =:O While the "pinch" is probably too advanced/risky for civilians, I assure you it was developed by veteran SWAT Instructors (Chuck Taylor, et al), who know what it means to be "stacked up" in a Dynamic Entry Team, literally nose-to-shoulder, also hidden in tight closets, stairwells, etc.
I honestly have never seen a Seagal film, and I’ve not seen that press-check method before. Ouch... fingers inside the trigger guard on a loaded weapon? Doesn’t appear safe at all. Perhaps I’m overly cautious? There are better options, which you demonstrated. Thanks!
You can easily push slide back with one finger and no fingers or thumb in trigger guard mine has heavy spring unless you're a little girl. Thumb in trigger guard is asking for trouble.
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Wow! I'd never heard of the Segal press check, but then again, I've seen only one of his movies, and I honestly don't know which was worse: the inane "plot", or his attempted "acting". Thanks for the warning.
They used to do this back in the day. This press check method was actually taught by some instructors. They stopped teaching it because of the ND's and how stupid it is to do in hindsight lol.
It is probably forgotten that before Big Bear and all that, in the 70s, people didn't often use pistol sights, or shoot with both hands, and revolvers were standard in the US. Seagal, say what you want about the guy, did at the least look like a guy who had at least whiffed the IPSC/Modern Pistol Technique, from downwind, compared to say Canon with his snubbies. But then William Conrad for all the jelly rolls was an actual WWII Fighter Pilot by training.
Good morning, I like this video. This was the tough in the military long before Steven Seagal. But your right, it is unsafe and most people don't do it any more. Also, the 1911 was designed with the ability to be chambered one handed by putting your index finger in the trigger guard and thumb on the recoil spring plug and pushing back on the plug to chamber a round. It's safe to do this because the grip safety wont let it fire. The problem comes in as you turn it in your hand you can disengage the grip safety and N.D. So it's a last resort method.
Never heard or seen it. Definitely looks like a bad idea 😂. I always press check and sometimes am supposed by what I see. I definitely think it’s worth it.
I love the presumed context difference between when most people, versus this person, says "I do most of my shooting at the club." So I take it you aren't big on dancing.
Flip safety up... get your solid pinch grip with finger and thumb... flip safety down... check chamber... flip safety back up... done. So, has anyone ever slipped a loaded mag in, dropped the slide, did a press check and there was no round in the chamber? I'm betting not.
I insert my mag rake the slide take the mag out and put another round in the mag and reinsert the magazine if another round goes in the magazine that way i know my gun is loaded guit press checks it makes no since too me at all ive never pulled my gun out and wondered if it was loaded and ive been carrying a gun for over 25 years I'm 52 now i could pull my pistol anytime and it would go bang
To be fair, many people did it that way. Now the fad is people press check with one hand which is even dumber. Steven did supposedly train at Gunsite in the eighties, where that was the way to do it. And yes, he has a thing for 1911's since that was what most people bought back when he was trained.
I think that’s a very unsafe way of doing things. There’s no reason to put yourself or anyone else in danger. No matter how good someone thinks they are...
I personally do the Jean Claude Van Damme press check. While doing the splits I grab the slide with my teeth and sucking really hard I manipulate the slide back with my tongue.
I've never even heard of a Steven seagal press check. Seems very stupid and unsafe. Anyway. I'd press check most from the front of the slide. Feels better to me.
Why do you call it "The Steven Seagal press check"...? It was actually a pretty common technique back in the day. A well known Hollywood stuntman made it popular in the movie world. That's why you see lots of actors doing it, including Al Pacino in the movie "Heat", not just Steven Seagal. And JFYI... Steven Seagal is a first class shooter. You can ask any of the people who worked with him in Arizona.
You can Do the Same Press Check Without Putting The Finger In The Trigger Guard by Pushing Forward With The Pistol itself 😬 But That’s In The Movies Were In Reality So I Wouldn’t Do It Either Way I Just Pull Back On The Cocking Serrations as Designed By John Browning 😀👍🏼
Larry Vickers addressed the “pinch check” or Seagal check as you call it a few years ago in a video. He clearly stated how unsafe this is and that back in the day SF or Delta guys would do it. He witness negligent discharges as well. The pinch check is by no means a acceptable way of doing a press check on a 1911 or any pistol for that matter. The acceptable methods are the ones you discussed. Press checks have their purposes, especially in law enforcement and the military. Many of us leave our pistols loaded 24/7. Prior to any operation I always do a press check to make sure a round is seated properly and ready to go. I think for normal carry the need for such a check is less likely, but to each their own, as long as they do it safely. Good video!
There are only 3 things to trust Steve Seagal with: Hair gel, wrist locks and fried tofu.
So true!
Or, How to care for your douchbag.
🤣
You can also trust that he will snatch every MFen birthday.
If they interviewed him about his 1911 press check, he'd be like, "You know I've been shooting guns for the last 40 years, and many people, you know swat, navy seals, marines, and even police departments, just come up to me and be like, you know, I just learned so much from you can you teach me anything else?"
It would be best! Not to pay full attention, to actor's holding or shooting gun's, in movies. Rather than professional's, in real life.
Quick Dubbs then again a Navy SEAL and inventor of the “Rowland Special” recently got drunk and shot his brother in law in the ass accidentally. So not sure who to pay attention too?
@@coyotebrown2294 Lmao, like I said, professional's!
Steven seagal is a marksman in real life. He is a professional haven't you seen videos
@@itslitty101 No I haven't! Didn't know he was a marksman! I know for a fact, u don't press check a loaded gun that way period!
Quick Dubbs I do believe he is a marksman. There was that time as a part time sheriff’s deputy he got into a crash vehicle and push down a suspects door killing multiple chickens and a puppy. He was able to hit all of them in one motion. He and the department were later sued when the charges were dropped against the suspect.
I believe that method of pinch check was taught at Gunsite back in the day.
@@Gamenofun "new age methods" jfc
@@Gamenofun ah yes the brian eno style of discreet gunfighting
If you look at old Jeff cooper videos which is before “the segal press check “they did that in there videos for Gunsite check it out
It's called a pinch test, and it predates Segal.
@@Daniel-qr1zf Indeed it does, predate segal. Larry vickers he is the real deal, Segal is a fake phony wife beater.
It was the way to go back before the full length guide rod was the hot ticket. Cooper did not care for those because they had a reputation for breaking, probably on the same basis as wings used to fall off of airplanes before they got that sorted out.
It's amazing how anyone thought this was a good way to do a check.
this press check was taught old days
nowdays that is dangerous (finger in trigger) so nobody taught it but i use this press check because why not? it looks cool!
@@hoppinggnomethe4154 False.
That exact type of press check shown in this video was taught by (and likely developed at) Jeff Cooper’s Gunsite for decades.
I don’t do it, I don’t agree with it, but it does have significant historical legitimacy backing it up.
@@rifleshooterchannel208 Can confirm. James Caan was taught how to clear rooms and handle a 1911 by Jeff Cooper at his Arizona Gunsite Academy for the film Thief. He performs a press check exactly like this on his custom Jim Hoag 1911 in the film.
I often don't do a press check, however when I do I do it like you do, thanks again for the video, Blessings to you and your family my Brother in Arms.
I never have but another reason not to learn firearms safety from a 80s or 90s movie.
I have always done the one-handed, because in the dark, you can physically feel the case with a finger of the off hand, or if you can't take your eyes off whatever you are preparing to shoot.
Recently though, i have found it far more useful to use moments when I have forgotten to chamber a round as an opportunity to practice "tap,rack, bang."
I always keep it loaded and ready to rock
Definitely agree on club versus range. I completely agree with everything you said on press checks.
“Maybe a rock island” idk why i though that was so funny
Always surprises me that the curator of the pinch check thought it was a good idea to put a finger in the trigger bay to "check" for a chambered round. 10/10 trigger safety
Who is the curator?
@@MrTangent No one knows for sure, but it's viewable in old training material. It's not a "Steven" specific press check. It just gets called his because people don't do research and his movies are just popular enough for them to form an opinion that it must have come from him since he's easier to look for than old training tapes.
@@macdaddymario Interesting. I’m an older* shooter (been shooting since the early 80’s), and I had never seen this method. And both my Dad and his father were hunters. Not saying it’s not a thing, but I’ve been reading Guns & Ammo and similar magazines for forever… crazy how I missed it.
older* by youtube viewer standards.
@@MrTangent Then I mean no offense but you've not looked too hard. Col. Jeff Cooper was teaching this for decades before Steve came along. It was 100% the taught way to press check.
Beyond that, Hollywood weapons trainers also taught the method, which is who I was talking about with no one knowing for sure. No one can point to a specific Hollywood trainer as the guy that started teaching it and made it a thing there. There are a number of films even before Steve's time that show this method, but Col. Jeff Cooper, the man who created the modern firearm teqnique, started teaching firearm courses in 76'. A man that had more firearms knowledge than... probably most of this comment section combined, did teach the method for decades before Segal came along.
@@macdaddymario I’m very familiar with Col. Jeff Cooper. Just don’t recall seeing him
demonstrate this method. Of course time and memory might have erased it, and I’ve also had brain surgery after a traumatic injury (no joking). But yeah, don’t recall it. Even googling doesn’t seem to bring it up. Where’d you see it?
Wasn't just his press check. Was taught that way at the time. Phased out *because* of the thumb thing. But go back to old training videos, you'll see them teach it the way Steven is shown doing it.
I just cannot imagine how putting your finger anywhere that close to the barrel with the trigger back seems safe to anyone. Thanks OL1911.
The one-handed check is there every time John Wick picks up a Kimber.
It's perfectly safe if you do it right and you're not an idiot.
He has some of the finest 1911s built. Chambers customs 1911. Big collector. And he can shoot in real life. In spite of the safety issue with his press checks.
To be honest, it is kind of hard not to have good aim with a 1911. I have a 1911 and it is the only pistol I can shoot quarter size groups with. Also, did you actually watch the video on the Lawman show? Every time they show him shooting, they zoom up on him and then after he's all done, then they show the target. They never show him shooting at the target in the same frame. However the guy he's with they show both him shooting and the target in one frame yet he's always doing worse than Seagal.
He also loves the F out of cookies and can also snatch every MFen birthday.
@@stealthimaster8583 you take that to the bank
I've been shooting for over 50 years and have never heard of this Steven Seagal press check until right now. I can't believe anyone would ever consider doing it.
If you can’t do it, or if you are afraid of it, you shouldn’t do it. I’ve used it without issue for 50 years.
Never heard of the Segal press check. I've always done it the way you do.
You know I believe Steven Seagal is the first person in a movie to do a press check 🤔 anyone else think so?
James Caan did one in Thief, I think that might be before Steven got big but Seagal def led the way
Have you seen that Zip .22? I think you have to do something similar to chamber a round.
The earliest example of this kind of press check I can recall is in the 1981 film Thief. James Caan's character did this with his long-slide 1911. Al Pacino's character did the same thing with his 1911 and Robert De Niro did a (arguably more dangerous) variation with a SIG P226 in Heat. Both films were directed by Michael Mann and I assume all three characters received their firearms training in the late 70's when it was still acceptable to do something like this.
Either way, don't do press checks like this, kids. We are men, we are not animals.
I've always just done press checks the way you do it.
Nope, never heard of this. Steven was never one of my instructors lol. Be safe and Check 360 often. Hope all is well my friend.
Wasn't his press check method. Go look at old official training footage from the 70's - 90's. You'll find this method being taught.
would be interesting to see an interview of steven segals gun tastes evolution from the 80s to now.
This press check method is only as dangerous as you make it! People need to understand that the gun isn't just gonna go off unless you pull the trigger. That Colt of yours is an absolute beauty, by the way!
You know the old adage , the loudest sound in the world is a click as your hammer drops on an empty chamber in a gunfight. I definitely see the necessity of verifying that you have a round chambered in a carry gun and in the absence of a loaded chamber indicator I personally usually use the pinch method to verify but to each his own I guess.
Great video. Didn't Al Pacino do the same thin in an elevator in Heat?
I saw Jeff Cooper doing this before.
With regards to press checks....why not check how many rounds you have left in the magazine after you chambered a round?
Jeff Cooper was famous for demonstrating this type of press check.
Knowing the dangerous possibilities that can occur with the Seagal press check, I pretty much grew accustomed to the underhanded press check (aka grabbing the slide from under like how you would with a shotgun), the front slide gripping press check, and the John Wick style one handed press check. All 3 are the ones I mostly prefer, and thank you for this video. Although I never really got my hands on a real-steel firearm, and the closest being the Airsoft Glock 19c, you did show the safest ways of doing press checks with a handgun, be it a Glock, a CZ-75, a Beretta 92FS, a 1911, any types of handguns known here and there.
Who the heck would even have a "Seagal press check" even as a possible method to press check? I mean you shouldn't base your firearms safety on a movie. I recommend taking a safety class.
I remember the Steven Seagal press check. I’ve done it a couple times. Yeah, definitely not safe way to check for a round in the chamber. I also remember in the movie “Heat” the two main stars in that movie did the exact thing. If you don’t remember, go back and watch and you’ll see.
You see it in almost every Michael Mann flick. James Caan's character in Thief does that press check, and I think one of the characters in Manhunter does a press check that way, too.
I haven't seen anybody do the seagal check but if I do I would probably ask them if they enjoy having there fingers. I use my forward serrations to press check my duty 1911 and use the rear serrations on my off duty 1911.
Pacino did a similar brass check in "Heat", except he kept his thumbs outside of the trigger guard. That's how I do it for better or for worse. IIRC, Keanu does the one handed check in "Street Kings".
Yeah, how did he check his wigs in 88 Minutes, thumbs in or out? Hoo haa!
I have seen several old timers do it at my range. The shop employees say they have had one ND with it. Someone instead of doing pinch technique, did a "index finger pull technique" and didn't push the thumb so it went straight into the trigger. Boom.
Makes me appreciate my Sig P938 and other P series SAO pistols. They can have safety activated yet still do slide manipulation. I like that
I've never heard of this method and I've never seen it before
The way i press check my Beretta M9 is hooking my index and middle fingers on the safety on both sides, place my thumb on the tail. I pull with my index and middle-finger and push my thumb against the tail. It works great for me.
It was thought in the military years ago. That’s why 1911 have the texture at the spot in the front where you put you finger.
Steven Seagal is actually a huge 1911 fanatic. He has a sizable collection of them and some of them are custom made. I do feel that Seagal has a tendency to portray himself as a "beat you up in real life" character in his movies. You should see that video of him in Lawman where he's taking this guy to the range to shoot and he has a 1911 and sweating profusely. They never show him shooting and what he's hitting on the target in the same frame. It's always him shooting, then they show this amazing group. Whereas his friend on the same range they would show him shooting, not too bad, but somehow not as good and they'd show him and him shooting in the same frame. I guess watching that and watching his movies, probably not a good idea to copy anything this guy does. I recall seeing the shot in the Under Siege movie and even while press checking it this way, he's pointing it directly to the actress head.
Never heard of the SS press check but rule #1 is keep your finger, any finger out of the trigger guard until you’re ready to fire.
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Four weapon Safety rules Aye Sir!!!
Treat: Treat every weapon as if it were loaded.
Never: Never point the Weapon at anything you do not intend to destroy.
Keep: Keep your finger straight and off the trigger, untill you intend to Fire.
Keep: Keep the weapon on safe until you intend to Fire.
Honestly, after cycling a round from a fresh mag, that works too. It’s in there, no mystery
I agree that it looks quite dangerous. But also agree that it looks cool lol.
Im here cuss i saw John wick do the press check
That press check belongs to Jeff Cooper of Gunsite Academy not Steve. Steve was a student.
"...and some wierdness...." Yes, I see a lot of it at those ranges.
If you just loaded a weapon and you keep up the maintenance on it then press checks are useless on a pistol. I can understand if you do a battlefield pick up but after just loading your weapon there is not point in doing so. The way you are doing it at the end of the video is the proper and safe method.
NerdCast fez eu chegar aqui!
I fully agree, that is dangerous. I don't need to press check my 1911, I'm old but I can still remember if I have one in the chamber or not
I'm trying to figure out why you have a snap-cap. You featured two ND stories centered around them, so why are you messing around with those things?
If you do not pull the slide all the way back, it glides over-top of the round in the magazine without catching it. My GF does this often. Press check is to make sure it actually grabbed a round and it's in the chamber.
pretty sure keanu reaves did one of the cool, secure, checks in john wick
I had no idea he had his name on that particular press check. back in the 1911s hay day that was how it was done, that was how some folks were instructed to press check the 1911. but the trick is to not be depressing the trigger safety lol.
My preferred method is to hook thumb of support hand underneath beaver tail, and pull back slide with index finger, forming an “ok” sign, using the rear sight for leverage. Anyone else do it that way?
Mines has a loaded chamber indicator if you pull the trigger.
No press checks..run the slide everytime
The "pinch" can be done withOUT pressing the grip-safety ON, but more importantly, it can be done very close to the body--hunched over--and, therefore, muzzle DOWN... vs. when you do the tug-on-rear-of-slide check--because your arms are now extended AWAY from your torso--notice how HIGH above the horizon the muzzle rises to get an eyeball on that chamber... WITH the grip-safety fully depressed the whole time, i.e. OFF!... such that if you DO have an ND, it goes into someone's head (or out a window), vs into the floor/ground. =:O
While the "pinch" is probably too advanced/risky for civilians, I assure you it was developed by veteran SWAT Instructors (Chuck Taylor, et al), who know what it means to be "stacked up" in a Dynamic Entry Team, literally nose-to-shoulder, also hidden in tight closets, stairwells, etc.
I honestly have never seen a Seagal film, and I’ve not seen that press-check method before.
Ouch... fingers inside the trigger guard on a loaded weapon? Doesn’t appear safe at all.
Perhaps I’m overly cautious? There are better options, which you demonstrated. Thanks!
You can easily push slide back with one finger and no fingers or thumb in trigger guard mine has heavy spring unless you're a little girl. Thumb in trigger guard is asking for trouble.
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Treat: Treat every weapon as if it were loaded.
Never: Never point the Weapon at anything you do not intend to destroy.
Keep: Keep your finger straight and off the trigger, untill you intend to Fire.
Keep: Keep the weapon on safe until you intend to Fire.
That technically doesn't include keeping it out of the trigger guard. So it's very debatable!
Wow! I'd never heard of the Segal press check, but then again, I've seen only one of his movies, and I honestly don't know which was worse: the inane "plot", or his attempted "acting".
Thanks for the warning.
Yeah, that was col jeff cooper, I think it's funny to watch a guy try doing that with a full length guide rod.
Some nice gun sounds in this 🤤
They used to do this back in the day. This press check method was actually taught by some instructors. They stopped teaching it because of the ND's and how stupid it is to do in hindsight lol.
That does look pretty cool
It is probably forgotten that before Big Bear and all that, in the 70s, people didn't often use pistol sights, or shoot with both hands, and revolvers were standard in the US. Seagal, say what you want about the guy, did at the least look like a guy who had at least whiffed the IPSC/Modern Pistol Technique, from downwind, compared to say Canon with his snubbies. But then William Conrad for all the jelly rolls was an actual WWII Fighter Pilot by training.
I've never heard of this before but it just seems very dumb doing this what's the point over a normal press check
Good morning, I like this video. This was the tough in the military long before Steven Seagal. But your right, it is unsafe and most people don't do it any more. Also, the 1911 was designed with the ability to be chambered one handed by putting your index finger in the trigger guard and thumb on the recoil spring plug and pushing back on the plug to chamber a round. It's safe to do this because the grip safety wont let it fire. The problem comes in as you turn it in your hand you can disengage the grip safety and N.D. So it's a last resort method.
Never heard or seen it. Definitely looks like a bad idea 😂. I always press check and sometimes am supposed by what I see. I definitely think it’s worth it.
The one handed looks the coolest...
Sadly it's probably safer than this method lol
I would say never have a finger near the trigger and the muzzle areas at the same time if at all possible. Asking for trouble.
I love the presumed context difference between when most people, versus this person, says
"I do most of my shooting at the club."
So I take it you aren't big on dancing.
Maybe it wasn’t “luck” he was pointing it into the ground. Could be training.
Flip safety up... get your solid pinch grip with finger and thumb... flip safety down... check chamber... flip safety back up... done.
So, has anyone ever slipped a loaded mag in, dropped the slide, did a press check and there was no round in the chamber? I'm betting not.
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I insert my mag rake the slide take the mag out and put another round in the mag and reinsert the magazine if another round goes in the magazine that way i know my gun is loaded guit press checks it makes no since too me at all ive never pulled my gun out and wondered if it was loaded and ive been carrying a gun for over 25 years I'm 52 now i could pull my pistol anytime and it would go bang
To be fair, many people did it that way. Now the fad is people press check with one hand which is even dumber.
Steven did supposedly train at Gunsite in the eighties, where that was the way to do it. And yes, he has a thing for 1911's since that was what most people bought back when he was trained.
I’ve heard it referred to as the “peak check”. It’s old school.
I’ve always called it a slide check
I think that’s a very unsafe way of doing things. There’s no reason to put yourself or anyone else in danger. No matter how good someone thinks they are...
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No need for press checks on my g17 it already has a "round in the chamber" indicator
JHON WICK do that in the movie, cool detail
I don't do press checks either you know or you don't know if a round is in the chamber
I personally do the Jean Claude Van Damme press check. While doing the splits I grab the slide with my teeth and sucking really hard I manipulate the slide back with my tongue.
I've never even heard of a Steven seagal press check. Seems very stupid and unsafe.
Anyway. I'd press check most from the front of the slide. Feels better to me.
Do the John wick press check. It’s safe, it’s faster, and looks way cooler.
James Caan, Thief (1981) "[Press check] You keep this running..." ruclips.net/video/1t4nkLkQBFY/видео.html
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I do the John wick press check😂
Why do you call it "The Steven Seagal press check"...? It was actually a pretty common technique back in the day. A well known Hollywood stuntman made it popular in the movie world. That's why you see lots of actors doing it, including Al Pacino in the movie "Heat", not just Steven Seagal. And JFYI... Steven Seagal is a first class shooter. You can ask any of the people who worked with him in Arizona.
Actually Jeff Cooper already taught it
If I had to do so I would use your one handed style, not Mr Hollywood’s method.
That's not how he does it. It's done without thumb in triggerguard
You can Do the Same Press Check Without Putting The Finger In The Trigger Guard by Pushing Forward With The Pistol itself 😬 But That’s In The Movies Were In Reality So I Wouldn’t Do It Either Way I Just Pull Back On The Cocking Serrations as Designed By John Browning 😀👍🏼
Notice it in Under Siege lol
Col. Jeff Cooper teaches that press check ! Fine unless you pull the trigger so maybe that person should be doing something else.
I still do them.......
Larry Vickers addressed the “pinch check” or Seagal check as you call it a few years ago in a video. He clearly stated how unsafe this is and that back in the day SF or Delta guys would do it. He witness negligent discharges as well. The pinch check is by no means a acceptable way of doing a press check on a 1911 or any pistol for that matter. The acceptable methods are the ones you discussed. Press checks have their purposes, especially in law enforcement and the military. Many of us leave our pistols loaded 24/7. Prior to any operation I always do a press check to make sure a round is seated properly and ready to go. I think for normal carry the need for such a check is less likely, but to each their own, as long as they do it safely. Good video!
Lol
I was totally ignorant to the Steven Segal PC method.
Look at John Wick PC a 1911 in the second movie !!!! ONE HANDED !!??