ALCO In the Street! Mohawk, Adirondack & Northern, Carthage, NY

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  • Опубликовано: 6 сен 2024
  • Genesee Valley Transportation's Mohawk, Adirondack & Northern is well known for operating in the greater Utica, NY area, but the railroad's "Northern Division" still survives, serving Slack Chemical in Carthage, NY. Follow along as I film the MA&N's Carthage switcher from start to finish, including a little street running on Canal Street!
    Filmed on October 16, 2023 in Carthage, NY.
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Комментарии • 72

  • @NorthCountryTrains
    @NorthCountryTrains  7 месяцев назад +7

    Before you comment: I’m very well aware of proper operating procedures, especially pertaining to grade crossings. You don’t need to comment for the sake of educating me, and I certainly hope you won’t comment about it for any other reason. Hope y’all enjoyed this unique operation!

  • @darrencatenacci2737
    @darrencatenacci2737 7 месяцев назад +5

    Don’t know why so many are complaining about the crew and operating rules. That’s the crew’s worry. You are just filming a really nice looking ALCO that sounds like it’s well cared for. Do they think you’re gonna tell the crew to blow the horn? Then they won’t let you film. Well done video 👍👍

  • @lp9_videos
    @lp9_videos 7 месяцев назад +11

    Awesome video! It’s not often somebody covers the northern division. The second engine that is up in Carthage is MHWA 2403. 2403 was actually on the Adirondack Scenic Railroad as their 4243 until it was sold to the Delaware-Lackawanna (another GVT company) in 2012. In early 2020, GVT moved it up here to Carthage as a backup to 2454. 4243 was also the last engine to be turned on the Tupper Lake wye. Great video bud!

  • @mrsrmp
    @mrsrmp 7 месяцев назад +2

    Lovely, a classic Alco still doing the job

  • @jeffskene42
    @jeffskene42 7 месяцев назад +1

    nice to see her still in her BC Rail colours albeit weather betten

  • @spuds6423
    @spuds6423 7 месяцев назад +2

    Hey! Finally got some blue sky in the North Country!

  • @HavelockYard
    @HavelockYard 7 месяцев назад +3

    Nice work! Miss the CP MLW Century units up here.

  • @newenglandfantasypainthobbies
    @newenglandfantasypainthobbies 7 месяцев назад +2

    Gotta love those ALCO/MLWs!

  • @treesixtyeight
    @treesixtyeight 7 месяцев назад +1

    The initial action takes place on the old Utica & Black River, which once stretched from Utica to Clayton as well as Morristown. NYC removed the stretch between Lyons Falls and Lowville. Slack Chemical is on the old Carthage, Watertown & Sacketts Harbor, and the mileposts on that line are still numbered from Sackets.

  • @wayneantoniazzi2706
    @wayneantoniazzi2706 7 месяцев назад +1

    Thanks for bringing us along on that cold, rainy, snowy, FINALLY the sun came out day Harrison!
    It's nice to know there's still Alcos out there earning their keep!

  • @glenngrinter6818
    @glenngrinter6818 7 месяцев назад +2

    It’s frigid in the capital district, can only imagine what Plattsburgh must be like.🥶🚂🥶🚂🥶🚂🥶🚂🥶🚂🥶🚂

    • @NorthCountryTrains
      @NorthCountryTrains  7 месяцев назад +1

      It’s about three degrees right now, hard to stay warm when I work outdoors on Friday nights like tonight

    • @MillersRailfan
      @MillersRailfan 7 месяцев назад

      Harrison’s well equipped to handle sub zero temps as a ski instructor

  • @MillersRailfan
    @MillersRailfan 7 месяцев назад +1

    That M; A& N engine is the smoothest sounding Alco I’ve ever heard
    I’ve heard all 4 D&H PA’s and they couldn’t compare with this beauty

  • @PrinceStreet
    @PrinceStreet 7 месяцев назад +1

    Nicely composed film. In our collective rush to film video the way we capture stills we often loose sight of the train as a whole thing. I enjoyed the way you recorded whole train movements and the cadence of operations as a flow. Very enjoyable.

  • @northpennvalleysteamrailroad
    @northpennvalleysteamrailroad 7 месяцев назад +2

    Cool 😊

  • @geoffreyhampson3993
    @geoffreyhampson3993 7 месяцев назад +1

    Great video. Really appreciate you letting the whole train run past while switching. Reminds us of how slow switching can be, Thoughtful of the crew to clear the level crossing so the cars could pass too. It rained the only time I visited Carthage too, back in October 1985,

  • @buffaloarearailfan9928
    @buffaloarearailfan9928 7 месяцев назад +2

    Excellent Video as Always!

  • @Duececoupe
    @Duececoupe 7 месяцев назад +1

    You just popped up in my feed....can't beat those old Alcos, or EMD, or....😉😎
    Watched, liked and subscribed....👍🏻
    Greetings from a Swede in Glasgow, Scotland....

  • @dannyhonn973
    @dannyhonn973 3 месяца назад

    Love to see a book on MA&N. Cover predecessor lines, where it goes now. Locomotives. Crew.

    • @NorthCountryTrains
      @NorthCountryTrains  3 месяца назад +1

      This is a great idea! Certainly a book I’d like to author or co-author. Maybe it can happen someday….

    • @dannyhonn973
      @dannyhonn973 3 месяца назад

      @@NorthCountryTrains try Morning Sun publishing. They do a lot of books on railroads

  • @MillersRailfan
    @MillersRailfan 7 месяцев назад +1

    Totally fabulous video
    Only you and Ryan (@weathered rails) could produce a half hour masterpiece of one engine making switching moves

  • @RailroadJourneys
    @RailroadJourneys 7 месяцев назад +2

    They didn’t believe in using the horn I see lol

  • @kelvintorrence5994
    @kelvintorrence5994 7 месяцев назад +2

    i loves me some smoking alcos

  • @MillersRailfan
    @MillersRailfan 7 месяцев назад +2

    Roadbed in better shape than any jointed rail on pan am

  • @colinthepanamerican
    @colinthepanamerican 7 месяцев назад +2

    5:24 Thats weird, it didn't blow horn at the crossing

  • @darylhannon4723
    @darylhannon4723 7 месяцев назад

    I was an engineer for BCR.I probably drove that alco .

  • @johnrockstone
    @johnrockstone 7 месяцев назад +1

    Nice!🙂🙂

  • @andyknott8148
    @andyknott8148 7 месяцев назад +2

    Was it worth getting wet for, course it was. Alco fanning knows no bounds.

  • @scottpool4777
    @scottpool4777 7 месяцев назад

    Yes definitely very good excellent and I just thought they were an HO gauge wow beautiful.

  • @brendangranger3684
    @brendangranger3684 7 месяцев назад +4

    Is there some ordinance/regulation that doesn't require them to blow the horn or ring the bell (specifically for the first crossing)? I looked on FRA crossing reports and it does not mention any quiet zone. Not criticizing, just plain curious.

    • @NorthCountryTrains
      @NorthCountryTrains  7 месяцев назад +1

      I don’t think it’s a “QZ”, I just don’t think they felt the need to blow the horn. All the moves are done slowly and cautiously and there’s very little traffic at most of the crossings.

    • @brianjanes4393
      @brianjanes4393 7 месяцев назад

      That’s definitely a rules violation though lol. If that’s a public crossing, unless flagged, you need to blow for it. Sounds like the engineers just lazy.

  • @MikeG42
    @MikeG42 7 месяцев назад

    Excellent video ! The MA&N Alco C425 looks and sounds great. 👍

  • @moosejunky99
    @moosejunky99 7 месяцев назад

    Nice job on the catch.. very cool to see short line train

  •  7 месяцев назад

    Old PGE/BCRAIL ALCO 630 You can see where the British Columbia ditch lights were removed

  • @MillersRailfan
    @MillersRailfan 7 месяцев назад

    Bring an umbrella
    The harder it rains or snows; the fewer foamers there to clutter up things

  • @BuhdaPunk
    @BuhdaPunk 7 месяцев назад +1

    Is it just me or have the rail taggers have grown up a little I noticed on this cut, most of the cars that have graffiti its not over the crucial writing such as warnings, regulation and identifying markings. The las time I drove a truck to NY "Manhattan" it took les than an hour to tag the crap out of the box. little bassturds.

  • @adkspark
    @adkspark 7 месяцев назад +1

    What is going on with that crossing at 2:56? The gates were still coming down as 2454 was passing through!

  • @ethanmcdowell9677
    @ethanmcdowell9677 7 месяцев назад +1

    That looks more like BRC than BC Rail.
    The Belt Railway of Chicago had that paint scheme if I'm not mistaken.

    • @NorthCountryTrains
      @NorthCountryTrains  7 месяцев назад +1

      It’s BCOL… look up MHWA 2454

    • @Maine_Railfan
      @Maine_Railfan 7 месяцев назад +3

      Prior to the red white and blue scheme, BC Rail used the green and white paint scheme that predecessor, PGE used.

    • @MillersRailfan
      @MillersRailfan 7 месяцев назад

      @@NorthCountryTrains😆🤣😂😊

    • @user-mr3ct1dm9p
      @user-mr3ct1dm9p 7 месяцев назад +2

      Belt Rwy. paint scheme is black/gray, with yellow end stripes .

  • @ElectroshockTrains
    @ElectroshockTrains 6 месяцев назад

    Id love to figure out when this runs so i can see it one day

    • @NorthCountryTrains
      @NorthCountryTrains  6 месяцев назад +1

      As needed. Earlier in the week is the best chance

  • @canuckster24
    @canuckster24 2 месяца назад

    That's definitely an MLW built Alco

  • @danielcarlin7784
    @danielcarlin7784 7 месяцев назад +1

    Not sure why everyone is critiquing the crew. I never saw even a potential conflict with traffic. That being said, if they DID hit someone, then they might be in some trouble.

    • @NorthCountryTrains
      @NorthCountryTrains  7 месяцев назад

      Exactly. Is it a violation, technically, does anybody care, no

  • @robertgift
    @robertgift 7 месяцев назад

    2:50 Why did the mee-mool lights *(o)T(o)* activate too late? Rusty rail?

  • @danielfantino1714
    @danielfantino1714 7 месяцев назад

    What a joy you made me. Never been physically there but many days to search about that line & surrounding. Good to see improvment. The old signal box at the street of that chemical co. (Google Earth & street view) Have been replaced by the new one on other side of the street.
    Do you know if there is still some storage on Lowville track ? By the way if i´m not wrong the track have been cut betwen Castorland and
    Lowville. If so, fun / sad fact, with track removed after Lowville, there is a collection of cars at Lowville and turntable. Those cars can´t go south with removed track, nor north to Carthage, leaving Lowville Croghan with its train museum without rail connection. Not to mention former Beaver Falls pulp mill with trackage also to Lowville.
    Yep, nice tracks no exit.
    Back to Cafthage is there also some storage on Newton Falls line ? An other cute scenic line. The paper mill in Newton Falls have seen so much change in it´s history. Good ideas for a layout with tracks on 2 level, not to mention that mysterious wye on short bridge. Just wonder why a
    wood pile trestle for a simple wye ?
    NARCOA gang should ride that track that have zero potential before it´s too late....
    Thanks again to show us that awakening of that sleepy Alco. Now she works so hard that she´ll still run in 50 years...

    • @NorthCountryTrains
      @NorthCountryTrains  7 месяцев назад

      No storage on the Lowville line to my knowledge . There is storage on the Newton Falls Line, but not much these days.

    • @danielfantino1714
      @danielfantino1714 7 месяцев назад

      Hope we don´t go in recession but that could bring some easy traffic and démonstrate usefulness of those tracks.
      Thanks again

  • @ortingdude
    @ortingdude 7 месяцев назад

    Hmmm, no use of the bell over crossings and while street running and a lack of using the horn. Beating the gates at the one crossing that looks like it works and then all the others that do not work. They must have good insurance.

  • @barbararoberto1258
    @barbararoberto1258 7 месяцев назад

    Great video, it's too bad they cannot get more business

  • @josephveksenfeld5344
    @josephveksenfeld5344 7 месяцев назад

    That's a lot of Milk of Magnesia in those tanker cars.

  • @benjaminpettis5468
    @benjaminpettis5468 7 месяцев назад

    Great Video, large customer gets mainly these rail cars?
    Thanks for sharing.

  • @user-bq7fd7of1x
    @user-bq7fd7of1x 7 месяцев назад

    Come on Blow the Whistle!,5:11

  • @MillersRailfan
    @MillersRailfan 7 месяцев назад

    We gotta find you a chariot w/ no windshield pillars

  • @conraillock1299
    @conraillock1299 2 месяца назад

    What's wrong with the crossing at 26:05

  • @BuhdaPunk
    @BuhdaPunk 7 месяцев назад

    This has to like driving a 1959 Edsel, just don't see it , its big, smooth with plenty of leg room. Smash you head on the dash an d you can just hose it off.

  • @TylersNeighborhoodGarage
    @TylersNeighborhoodGarage 7 месяцев назад +1

    Not big on following operating rules are they? Forward headlight and ditch lights are off, then on, then off again, and I never heard the horn once. They don't get to decide whether to blow the horn. FRA rule 49 states that horn is to be sounded at ALL public crossings.

    • @wrjidema
      @wrjidema 4 месяца назад

      Nagging, nagging....

  • @carlnapp4412
    @carlnapp4412 7 месяцев назад

    I expected more smoke from an Alco.

  • @kishascape
    @kishascape 7 месяцев назад

    hehe another 7idea production narration imitator

  • @PEB2631
    @PEB2631 7 месяцев назад

    please mute your camera,,, clicking is annoying

    • @NorthCountryTrains
      @NorthCountryTrains  7 месяцев назад +3

      Ah yes let me just hit the mute button on my camera’s mechanical shutter