Accurate Metal Shaper Work :-) Squaring Fireball tool squares.
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- Опубликовано: 21 дек 2024
- The metal shaper is earning its keep this week squaring up the fireball tool squares . I make lots of progress with the new to me surface grinder and I also have some random footage I always enjoy throwing in. BIG THANKS to all my viewers, patrons. I wouldn't be able to do it without you. If you would like to help me and my wife Elizabeth make our summer Bash trip { We are just over 1/2 way } please consider making a shop donation here PayPal Link
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I really enjoy your nature shots of the creek. I drove through Kentucky several years ago and your videos bring it all back.
Very interesting videos Steve. I;m 82 years old and watch you and A bomb and Keith nearly every day. My earliest days of machining go back to highschool. I graduated in 1955. I took all the machine shop classes that were offered plus related subjects, my senior year I worked as a coop student at a company called Modern Machine & Tool Co.that graded my report card that year . Three years active duty U.S Navy Long story short after working in another machine shop called Roemer Machine and Welding for seven years than a 7 year stint at The Rock Island Arsenal as a grade 12 machinist I purchased Modern Machine in 1978. I operated personally till about age 75. My son now runs it sort of like Adam Booth and his Dad. I'm so ingrained to machine shop that I feel compelled to watch it. I've done it all hundreds of times, turning milling ,grinding of all types. Also have 2 CNCs Haas vertical mill and Mazak Lathe. Getting back to grinding I recommend .0002 tenths down feed per pass, anything more than that will wear your wheel down more rapidly and lose your finish. If there is any thing that I could be of assistance feel free to Email me at arpsdel@gmail.com. Thanks for your indulgence.
The old grinder is coming along nicely. Seeing the coolant on it now, is making me want to go out and get mine mounted .
I didn't know that about files. I'll have to look at all of mine and see if they are. Thanks for the tip.
It's not a built in feature just something I've noticed. Some are actually flat some have a very noticeable dip in the center. At least that's how mine are. 👍
Shapers are super cool machines, and you have shown the world that!
Nice broad content Steve, great to see coolant on the surface grinder, well done on the precision balls for the carriage.
Looking forward to modifications, that ground finish looked A1.
Thanks for sharing and best regards from the UK.
Never had the opportunity to work on any metal machining tools, but really enjoy watching your videos Steve, one day I'll get the opportunity to start learning this myself but know I'll have a bit of a head start with all the info you've provided the last ~6 months I've been watching.
Lol....a square squaring squares.... thats pretty funny
there ol- steve...
I love the surface grinder coming along! Must be a great feeling to have a free grinder clean up and at least be usable!
Morning Steve great content things are coming together in the shop and for the Bash
Yes they are👍. Thanks and good morning to you sir.
Enjoyed this episode, Steve ! You're chipping away nicely & making good progress at getting your "new acquisition grinder" back in shape. The outdoor scenes with the covered bridge were a nice touch ! I believe Spring is finally trying to get here.
Thanks for your time, effort & for sharing your week's activities with us !
Thank you Steve for another interesting video. Aquarium and pond department tends to have cheap hose, sold by the foot. If you get a clear one you can even see what is going on inside of it.
Thanks Steve, look forward to your video every Saturday, always learn something.
Great work Steve, the clips of the creek in the video looks beautiful, I’m guessing this is right near your home, there is nothing better then laying in bed listening to the sound water, loving the channel excellent content, thank you for sharing mate, Cheers Matty 🇦🇺
So many levers, So little time. Love it.
Steve and a coffee. Great way to get my day going ! This is the first time in ages I have seen a sine bar in use. As always a nice easy visit with you my friend. Take care and have a great week to come......Dean......
Looking forwards to you getting the grinder set up right. I have just bought an old Jones and Shipman 540 grinder myself and will be watching with interest to see the accuracy and finishes you will be getting on your work.
Thanks Steve, watched the video Saturday night, but got interrupted half way threw. Nice job on the square, as well as the grinder.
I always enjoy your videos.
Great show. Thank you very much. Carl&Anita
Morning Steve! Great show. Really enjoy the shaper work.
that is one hell nice shaper
Thanks👍.
Hiya Steve, man you're good, you take on a new toy... sorry tool and in no time you can quote no end of the facts and tec spec off the cuff. Me on the other hand, I don't know what day it is... I went to a medical appointment a day early this week... duh. OK, OK I've always had a crap memory and age does not help, plus the number of times I knocked myself out... But Steve I love the way you just take on a new tool and learn it inside and out. Yes the info has never been as easy to find but you bother to do a complete job and absorb the information that makes you a consummate artisan. (Top engineer). So thank you and please keep up these outstanding films, we love them.
Great video, Steve. The surface grinder is coming along nicely and the shaper work is fantastic.
I think that grinder is going to turn out to be a dandy 👌
Time for me to find a sine bar👍🏻 thanks Steve, keep up the good work
Love your shaper footage. Those tools are looking fantastic. You hit it, frustrating. Steve Barton is an excellent teacher, attended his class at bar Z last year. The DRO for me was a life saver. Your time and effort is appreciated for sure. WoW.....Bar Z this year?? A bunch of great creators will be there. With my injury and added expenses it is looking like I won’t be able to go. Thank you
That's not good Ron, I was hoping to meet you.
Me too Steve, the not going isn’t written in stone yet but it’s not lookin good. We are leaving in the morning to go on the California Zephyr. It’s the snow train going from Sacramento to Reno Nevada. We’re going to stay a couple nights and then come back. This is out of the household fund. While we’re on the trip I’m going to see if my wife would like to take a trip down south about the same time as the bash and just maybe if she would like to go with me I can talk her into it. But as far as my personal budget goes oh my goodness it don’t look good.😬
Hi Steve nice as always to be here, thank you for the share, Lance & Patrick.
Just be aware that the 5/6 block test for surface grinders only tells you how well the chuck has been ground in (ie: how parallel it it to the ways). It will not tell you if the machine ways are bowed, since the chuck will have been ground in to follow that same bow. You'll only know how flat it is if you grind a large workpiece and check that on a surface plate.
Awsom place you and your family live. 😃
Enjoyed Steve!
ATB, Robin
Looks like that grinders a keeper. Just like any new skill a bit of a learning curve comming up but im sure you will pick it up quick enough. Nice looking finish you showed. I use a chinese magnetically coupled pump of similar operation for my homebrew beer setup and get good flow and tollerance to output blockage / intentional restriction. I should check its bolt pattern as it might be handy to rotate its head too.
Good job Steve
As usual your videos are truly inspirational. Please don't stop, you are a real treasure for those of us that are familiar with machine processes and you are one of the most patient people I've watched... Also, I love the nature footage, a real treat. I just want to say "Thank You"!
Looking good Steve
Steve , any new tool requires a new skill you will get their patients, patients, and then it happens, you will be the surface grinder go to guy
The block test won’t tell you if it grinds flat. As long as the chuck was ground properly everything should be parallel but not necessarily flat. There’s some other ways to check actual flatness. Looking like you turned it into a decent grinder again!
I see that things are shaping up.
great find on the surface grinder, but for the love of god, if you are to keep the little beauty please give her a lick of paint! keep it up Steevo!!!
Amazing tip about the file, concave/convex. thanks!
Good video
Why are covered bridges covered ?
And why do they have sides ?
Is it something to do with the old horse and cart days ?
Yes, they go back to the horse and buggy days. They were covered to keep snow and ice off the bridge. The sides kept the wind from blowing snow on the bridge as well.
Lots of covered bridges in the east still.
@@bobwitt305 Sorry all, not true. Many horses would not cross a bridge, the open frame scared them. So bridges were enclosed to look like barns, then the horse/team would enter. Rob
@@davidmcgee7300 what does that have to do with my comment?
Water promotes wood rot. Ice keeps the water on there longer, ergo, more rot. The cover is a roof, so rain and ice do not rot out the timbers of the of bridge.
Hi Steve I'm interested in seeing a shaper and dividing head used to do internal keyways and internal involute splines. This type of work Is challenging with the equipment I have which doesn't include a shaper. Thanks
Nice job 👍👍👍
Were you able to find, or do you need to find, any new tracks for the new bearings to ride in? I was also curious if the grit would imbed into those bearing holders and go to grinding on the new bearings when you put them in as well.
Hi it’s stacie! Great video Steve! I am impressed with your work! Keep it up!🙂
I like to use a open 46 with the chuck on and take small amounts at a time like about .0005 at a time . Good luck . Old Tool Maker . JT Hay Fort Worth Texas
Great content Steve. Cheers
Might as well replace those balls now, no need to have to grind that chuck in twice by doing them later. :-) I am surprised they used english dimensioned balls in a grinder from a metric country. I guess imperial sticks around pretty good! lol
This machine has a crazy mix of metric and imperial hardware. Just enough to keep you guessing. I was also surprised to fine 5/8" balls in it. The balls were about 100 bucks shipped. That's not that bad considering how accurate they are. Worth a shot at that price I think. Good to hear from you Brian. Thanks for watching
Thanks to you I've spent a couple hours now trying to find the concave side on all my round files..... I guess you did say "probably not every file".... grumble grumble.... ;-) keep up the good work
I like the bit where the dogs play around
Hi Steve,
Looks like Qualichem. If so it will probably suck that Vacuum Cleaner Hose dry chemically making it very brittle in the future. Not a huge deal, just something to watch for in the future.
I never knew that about files, gonna have to go and check mine now .... thanks :)
quite a score on that coolant pump. Very good flow, very quiet. Is there a bypass on the pump, so that the pump isn't deadheading when flow turned off?
That type of low pressure pump churns when it is not flowing. No "deadhead" is created.
Could you have used the sine set-up on the last leg of the square?
You Need a magnetic filter in your coolant system
redeye industries makes really effective ones.
very work..very art
The Black & Decker RTX rotary tool that tungsten grinder is based on is a decent one too.
Steve you need to drop a fishing line in the creek.
Whats the purpose of the T spacer in the shaper toolpost? Is it to add more clamping surface area to the HSS bit?
It's to spread the clamping load and to take up space in the toolpost. 👍
Hermoso lugar donde vivís!
Como me gusta la cincinnati !
tenes los planos de las escuadras me los pasarías gracias ? saludos Ariel deT.M.P
A bit cruel flaunting all that spring around, for the viewers still looking out on big piles of snow. :C
Beautiful tig weld! Question...What is the place you work at? Power plant or mine or refinery or ?What river or creek is that behind your shop?Just wondering.
Funny enough, I can't think of a sine bar without thinking Jo blocks, because that's what all Gage blocks we're back in my apprentice ship days, lolol
Sweet welds, boiler replacement? Why no purge on root though
The flange appears to be a socket weld and you don’t purge socket welds
@@mikec.9177 by code u need a 16th gap on a socket flange and any open air and stainless to not mix well from all my experience. I do more stick pipe than Tig but I think I would have purged my self.
chris jones the gap you are referring to is for expansion it isn’t considered a gap like you have in a open butt weld
@@mikec.9177 No the gap is so you can get it level. Try no gap it'll pull and u will never get it right again.
Your correct it does give you the ability to level the flange but you have to leave a space for expansion. I welded for 30 years and now I am a CWI. They make a piece called a gap o let to help maintain a space.
Hy my name is Georges Gareau , I love your videos ,
I intend to build a 7 or 8 " Metal shaper , I was wondering what
would be the best number of strokes per minute I found the fallowing
but they are all different
What is the best Strokes per minute for a 7, 8 , or 10 inch metal
shaper , 40 62 103 161 , 40 80 120 160 , 40 70 115 180 , or
42 75 120 195 ?
Why aree they so different
Georges
I just accidentally bought a surface grinder, so I'm depending on you to teach me how to work it!
A student trying to teach. I'm impressed at your confidence in me😄
I don't think I've ever watched one of your videos that I didn't learn something, even if it's only that I don't want to clean out the sump on an old mill. Btw the grinder will throw a 1.5" steel cube all the way across the barn and embed it in the wall like a ninja star, in case that's something you were going to try. It'll chip the grinding wheel at the same time. I recommend not trying this.
another great vid, Steve I wondered is it possible to mount a accurate ground stone to your shaper, an stone your work using the shaper,
I KNOW DONT LAUGH. Just a thought. Uk Stan.
HI Steve, The result you're getting on your shaper looks outstanding! Amazing work as always. Thanks for sharing the outdoor video. It gave me some hope that spring will get here someday too ... hopefully :)
We are starting to see some green popping up on the bushes. Will not be long. Thanks for watching. Almost done with the squares👍
@@SteveSummers Saweeeeet. Thanks for getting to those squares so quickly. They look really, really good from here. There are a couple of projects that are going to be considerably easier now that there will be a trusted reference to start with.
I know I'm a little late seeing this grinder, but why not practice with some stock material be trying to grind the chuck? Practice first on less critical material!
Do you have a particular trade at your workplace or are you just an all 'round handy guy? Welder? Millwright? Just curious. You seem to have a wide range of knowledge.
All around guy I guess. They allow me the time to study different trades. If nothing is going on I practice.
Please put a handle on that small file. I look forward to your video on grinding in your surface grinder chuck as I need to do that also. Thanks for making the video.
Geeze Man your dog barking made my dog bark which in turn made my roommates dog bark. I bet you never thought you would start a chain bark all the way out to California did you. :-)
LOL. That's all my collie does is bark. She's a great dog though.
One of the things that is incredibly frustrating about watching these machining channels is the amount of used machinery that is around for in many cases virtually nothing in the US. Here in Canada there is a fair amount in Ontario but when it comes to the western provinces there in little at all and then you are looking at premium prices. Last weekend I looked at a 14 x 40 lathe that was up for sale. The machine was in very good shape and the price was not that bad. The kicker was that there was none of the change gearing available for threading (no one had though to hang on to it) along with a few other parts and pieces and the maker was out of business and very, very obscure. When I did my research, there was only one mention of the brand on all of the internet world wide and that was from a fellow in Chile. As a result, I passed on the machine and will keep looking but I have to wonder why there isn't a data base that is Canadian for used machinery for more of the people like myself who are looking for the smaller machines at reasonable prices. What does come up on EBay and other sources such as Kijiji are snapped up within hours in many cases. Anyone out there know of such a source based in Canada?
We are lucky around here to ha e a surplus of old equipment. I imagine it would be frustrating.If I was in that situation Next time a decent piece comes up I would buy it complete or not. Use the parts missing as a learning project. I've heard several places are dry when it comes to used machines.
@@SteveSummers That is exactly why I am kicking my butt right now. I should have bought it but the price of the few gears that may have worked that I found and the other things that were missing brought the price up to the point where I could buy a brand new 12 x 36. Oh well, I am sure something else will eventually come up. A couple of weeks ago a really nice Bridgeport mill came up for the right price and it was gone sight unseen 20 minutes after the listing was up. Again, I will keep looking. I have to wonder if there might be a business in getting a load of older but good machines together in your neck of the woods and then freighting them up here.
Do Ever fish in the Creek or isn't there any fish in the Creek
I keep imagining running that shaper and absent mindedly bending down to look at the cut (which is something I would do) and getting that toolpost nut right in the forehead! Man that would give a guy a headache!!🤢
Great video. Really like watching your channel. Suggestion: save up some money and invest in a upgraded sound system. The sound during your introductions needs improvement. Content of your videos is great.
Just one small safety advice. It is dangerous to do machining wearing gloves. It is obviously cold where you live, but cold can be overcome by heating. Smashed hands, fingers missing, can't. I'm a Scientific Instrument Maker by trade, and have had an excellent apprenticeship. One thing that was drummed into me from the beginning was NEVER wear gloves, long sleeves, long hair, dangling necklaces, rings etc. Wear appropriate PPE, but gloves are not appropriate. Other that, no criticism of your engineering.
All these machines and still have to copy someone’s else design?,
These are the 1st weld it yourself fireball squares that were available. No one copied anything.