I know this is a ways off, but I think a future video comparing Labor’s promises to the reality of what they do, after their four year-tenure is up would be a great idea. Just a thought, I’m not even British
So, the word you're looking for is "tax". And honestly we want to be taxing shareholders more than companies. It's them that suck money out of the econony and encourage the worst buisness practices to sustain their cashflow.
@@CM-db5cg No, I meant “fine”. In addition to taxing companies and shareholders, when they’re punished for breaking the law (Meta, Google, etc.), they should be fined a certain percentage of their value, instead of a flat 1 000 000 000 £ or something like that.
@@Adam-326 Yeah, im sure fining the few remaining successful companies in the UK for absolutely no reason will absolutely result in an economic turnaround.
@@Yku30 I’m not sure that breaking the law counts as “absolutely no reason” and I’m not sure how you can make that assumption without knowing what percent of their value will comprise the fine. I’m also not sure that allowing entities to get away with crimes because they’re “successful” is a good idea in the long run, nor that there is absolutely no other way to make any sort of economic recovery. But, hey, what do I know?
Ensuring labour don't coast by simply for not being the Tories is why it's important that the Tories get utterly obliterated and replaced as main opposition party by the Lib Dems. The Lib Dem manifesto is actually promising impressive shit and is arguably more left wing than Labour's right now.
Keep in mind that labor is also going to be the likely winner, whereas lib dems are an unlikely winner. This means that labor can’t promise a bunch of stupid shit they actually can’t do or things that sounds good on paper but would have an adverse effect on the economy if implemented. This is why a lot of things they promise is so tame. You can’t just wave your hand and implement changes. You can’t just promise more doctors when there are barely any incentives for doctors to actually pursue a career in the UK, you can’t implement wealth tax when it’ll just lead to more tax evasion.
Honestly, I found the Lib Dems one to be the best. Labour and Tory are shady and are quite literally very similiar churches to each other. (Edit: OMG thanks so much!)
To be a little cynical, the Lib Dem’s don’t have to make a manifesto that works. They aren’t going to win the election so can promise bigger things easier. Even a manifesto that seems well costed can lean to be on the more generous side than since you won’t be accountable for delivering what you say. Labour should have been more ambitious though. By all data they look to be on track to win by a silly big majority and will basically be able to pass whatever they want.
The Lib Dems could realistically be the opposition, all it takes is tactical voting. The tories are ridiculously close to falling over the edge into 3rd or 4th place due to the razor thin margins of their projected seats won
I actually like the Labour manifesto. It's a good mix of interventionist policy but also allowing the private sector to do its thing such as reforming the planning system and reducing NIMBYism. There was a recent article about how a proposal for 'Europe's largest data centre' in Havering was opposed by residents.
The current planning system was put in place by Labour after WW2. It’s nice to see them go back on it because I’ve heard it’s actually the reason why so many of our infrastructure projects go over budget
I feel like labour is being aggressively pragmatic in literally every aspect of their campaign, right down to the manifesto entirely because they know how biased and negative the British press is, particularly the English press. I'm curious to see what they do once they're in power
If you already know the press is going to smear you, you might as well have a genuinely visionary progressive platform instead of trying to go as close to the tories as possible.
We already know how bad the fiscal situation is from publicly available data, that's exactly why Labour have been reserved with their policy plans. Until interest rates come down and the economy starts growing there's zero fiscal headroom. Any overly ambitious un-costed (or badly costed as is the case with the LibDem manifesto) would lead to another collapse in the bond market like we saw under Truss.
@@mikey-wl2jt I also agree deficit spending isn't bad, I'm by no means a fiscal hawk. However we got a very clear demonstration under Truss of what happens when policies are very poorly costed in an already high debt fiscal environment, and I don't want a repeat of that. Remember as far as the financial markets are concerned unfunded spending is the same as unfunded tax cuts.
I liked the Lib Dem and Green Manifestos the best. The Greens are ambitious as Hell (like a 2030 net zero target and investing in green energy in Africa) and I can respect that, but there are just too many obviously impossible things in there that make it obviously clear they are a party obviously unprepared for any amount of power, whereas the Lib Dems strike a good balance between ambitious and realistic. Labor targeting 2040 for net zero is too fucking far. The fact that the Tories are also targeting 2040 says everything that needs to be said.
@@bp-lx7lf Oh fuck that's even more shit. Like, the UK is a nation where like 10 percent of people own air conditioning. How the fuck is this country going to put up with kicking the environmental can down the road as they bake in their houses for three months a year?
Ambitious political schemes are easy to promise when you have essentially zero chance at power. Its the cornerstone of socialist parties the world over.
I would love to vote Lib Dem in my area, but because of our crappy FPTP system I need to vote Labour to punt the local Tory out. Would be so nice if *any* party reformed the voting system to Single Transferable Vote or even Proportional Representation.
It's up to you, of course, but why replace one Tory with another? You can be sure Labour won't take your reservations about voting for them into account, they'll just say their victory vindicates their policies whilst they beat you over the head with their massive majority. I'm not a fan of the LibDems, but at least a vote for them would indicate you're one more person that's dissatisfied with Tory economics, regardless of the colour of the rosette.
I'll try this comment again, as it got deleted. It's up to you, of course, but why replace one Tory with another? You can be sure Labour won't take your reservations about voting for them into account, they'll just say their victory vindicates their policies whilst they beat you over the head with their massive majority. I'm not a fan of the LibDems, but at least a vote for them would indicate you're one more person that's dissatisfied with Tory economics, regardless of the colour of the rosette.
I'm concerned about what the manifesto does _not_ say: not taking railway rolling stock back into public ownership; not scrapping voter ID law; not repealing the recent changes to public order law; not removing the 2 child benefit cap; no rent control; no council house building program; no reform of drugs law; no opposition to genocide being carried out by our allies; and no mention of the expanded "antisemitism" (aka anti-zionism) laws that I'm convinced Starmer wants to introduce.
@@pigeon5700 The state already owns the railways technically, which is a problem in itself. Although I didn't mention railways. The other dude wants rent control which is absolutely disgusting. Not to mention they want council houses, another repugnant idea. And to make it all worse they want more benefits, there should be no benefits for having children.
@@theXveritatSo no benefits for having children then, so I’m guessing you want mass immigration to top up the population then? Cause no one gonna have kids if that’s the case
As much as I am sympathetic to the Labour government, it never fully addressed the elephant in the room. Brexit. A European nation-state that once had unbridled access to a continent-wide common market with free movement of peoples that enriched our society. A noble and incredible idea. I have since temporarily moved to Spain because I see no future for me in the UK. I was living at home with my parents at 38 because I could not afford private rent; a mortgage was a pipe dream. I only have 90 days living in Spain because of the wonders of Brexit but dear lord, what a difference! A more livable and affordable country and my everyday anxiety has dissipated. After my three months are up, I will not return to the UK. I will live elsewhere. I am not sure how I am going to do it. Yet an overriding aspect that drives me is that I will not return to that dreadful place that caused me such anxiety in the first place. A nation that is so expensive, filled with decaying austerity-inspired potholed streets, drugs, homelessness, food banks and this awing for populist politics. The UK is where I was born and grew but I no longer see it as my home.
Voting for a parties opposition because they're doing a shit job shouldn't be crazy, it should be the expected result. What's crazy is that the tories have been fucking up the country for 14 years without this happening.
Thanks Some Geezer- just the right amount and kind of information I wanted. Really not excited enough to read the entire manifesto Tbh, so I appreciate you doing this so we don't have to and giving us the key points
Will you be covering the SNP manifesto, Geezer? Scottish subscriber here and was just curious. I know the SNP are not a UK-wide party but they're still important political players. Keep up the good work.
British and American politics is a bit different. The Tories are probably where the Democrats are and Reform is Republicans Green, Lib dem, and labour are probably more left wing/ socialist than any American politician who's likely to get in is.
Reform are only Republican in the sense they're also right populist (even though Farage sees his party as right centrist and calls the Tories socialists). Reform supporters/politicians by and large are pretty hard right (not far-right).
I’m hoping for the best, planning for the worst. It’s not like there is a real choice. Hopefully the LibDems can become the opposition and maybe shift the Overton window a bit.
The problem I see with the manifesto, is that spending is predicated on economic growth over 5 years...if I understood it correctly. Forecasting economic growth beyond. 12 months is next to impossible. Making plans is fine, it's events that throw you off. I hope they get in but equally, that they haven't bet the farm on growth. Where's the backup plan?
Yes. There is a common hold form of ownership that was specifically created during the 1997-2010 government to replace leasehold to solve the problems of freehold wrt flats and gives flat owners greater rights as to how the duties of block management and maintenance are dealt with compared to being subject to feudal duties to the freehold owner under a lease.
I am way too excited about being bored sh*bless by politics. Think we've had enough of the old Chinese curse "may you live in interesting times".... Thanks Geezer, top drawer stuff, as ever. Love you tooooooo
Well done. My guess on why Labour is so non specific is to avoid oneupmanship with any of the other parties but mainly the Conservatives. They are ahead and have nothing to gain by stating numbers which can then be bested by the others.
Also the latest 'trend' by Leftists is to lie about what they will do - which is to raise TAXES against the so called Rich. Vote REFORM which gives the people a chance to challenge both parties - Labor and Tories.
Labour have to climb out of this hole that they have been thrown into. The manifesto should be a no nonsense, straight to the point deal. But at the same time it dose not want to be a circus of elaborate ideas that cannot possibly come to any climax. What we really need to do is just be patient. Lots of work that needs to be done.
*TLDR:* We promise Labour will do little more than what the Tories did 10 or so years ago! We promise nothing will change, and to manage decline! We'll pander to corpos and ray sis ts, and ensure the neoliberal rightwing hold on the Labour party, doesn't weaken! Yay! Great news everyone!
Which is the only way "Labour"[sic] are permitted to enter government in the Neoliberal era. Left of centre? No no no, here come the smear campaigns, backroom blackmailing and massive "donations" to their opponents. The "managed decline" is kind of nice, now and again, to break up the catastrophic decline the Blue Tories unleash on us, which unfortunately means the punt up rage that's ready to overthrow the whole lot, eases up, permitting the decline to continue.
Wise up man. Nothing about their manifesto says any of that. You're definitely one of those who thing thing should automatically change over night despite not even knowing the state of the economy until the keys to number 11 are handed over. Literally anyone who is forward thinking and not stuck in their feelings knows that this parliament will be thin on the ground. But yea, keep on screeching while the rest of us carry on living in the real world ye neep And no... My vote likely isn't going to Labour before you come back with a predictable retort
Do you always hear what you imagine, louder than what people actually say? Or do you just like the support of other morons for your propagandist BS? If you’re not using current facts, you’re doing my country a disservice. Stop it.
And what would your plan be? We have a debt to GDP ratio of 100% with high interest rates meaning a huge chunk of the budget is going on debt repayments. Any high spending policies would require a huge increase in tax revenue, and speculative taxes like a wealth tax that have been proven time and time again to not work as intended in a global financial system will not be enough to pick up the slack. You would have to increase the big three taxes which overwhelmingly hit working people, and no one will vote for a party planning to do that. I would love it if we could introduce policies such as a negative income tax topping up the income of everyone earning less than £15k a year, £50 billion a year of additional funding to stabilise and modernise the NHS and a renationalisation of the utility and rail companies. But we live in the real world and not a fantasy land so those policies are completely unaffordable.
Remember, you’re not a British political party unless one of the first things you do while in power is to start passing authoritarian, freedom restricting laws.
Tories are total toast. Labour will win by a landslide.. So go nuts.. Vote for who you really want... Help the other lefter parties.. Do not give torie labour a massive majority, or nothing will change....
I agreed with most of labours policies other than the more police one, i think of police as more of a gang in this county rather than civilian protection.
This has been a great series. Honestly. Thank you. Not enough people do it and that’s we end up arguing about things we clearly have not researched. I actually went and read them my self and I feel more informed. For me it’s about the economy, health, and equality. On that basis I’ve made up my mind about who I will be voting Lib Dem. The proposal to close cushy tax holes that the super wealthy, big Tech and big banks benefit from is especially appealing. And reducing capital gains tax so that we actually make money when we sell our houses or other assets. I just wish people would give them a bit more time👏👏👏👏
@kingpig8732 from experience of fptp, it tends to soften most sides until you get a dramatic shift. Defo fed up of right wing. Reform are still standing by their pro nazi candidates Reform are still standing by their misogynistic candidates Reform are still standing by pro putin farage. Reform are still standing of the mocking of all those killed by the ira by "up the ra" Farage
Unfortunately that’s bad for them, as they benefit from being “the other party” whenever the Tories fuck up. And it’s the tories, so they do that at least once per generation 😂 Basically Labour benefits from fptp like the tories, so they’re not likely to remove it, especially as the tories are historically weak and they can speculate to get a 10/15+ mandate (by winning the elections for the next decade or so).
@@ilianceroniWell, if the Lib Dems get into opposition they could bring that to the table, after all they did force the 2011 AV referendum so they have the will, and they could definitely challenge Labour over it
I like the pledge to hire 6,500 new teachers, and it is great that it is costed, with the funding coming from the reintroduction of VAT on private school fees. But it seems light on detail. How will they recruit them? Upping wages for teachers? Subsidising or making teacher training free? Particularly in the case of the latter, how long will it take for the teachers to be hired and in place in schools?
This time around, I’m going LD. Their manifesto speaks to me the most and more importantly, they don’t back Brexit. Also, they seem to want to address the constant sprawl of new housing estates popping up (who wants a used new-build?) with a genuine alternative, so that’ll hopefully appeal to Millennials and Zoomers.
Really useful and digestible video! You did keep saying you found the lack of figures disheartening but I prefer it, id rather they broadly outline plans than throwing impossible figures in the air they then don’t achieve 😅 Its a refreshing change
That's fair! With everything that I've said in order to be remotely critical in this video, it's still a million miles ahead of a potential Conservative Party win 😂
Does the manifesto mention anything about ending zero hour contracts, stopping channel crossers, a vision on handling AI in workplace and education, making houses more affordable and preventing rich landlords from buying up homes and renting them out to multiple not-well-off young people?.... if not, then still not got my vote yet then as these are the biggest worries for the country at this time!!!
You haven't mentioned about spouse visa requirements, as you said other things about migration but then you said the rest might go back to normal so the requirements of spouse visa will go back to £18,600 ?
I hope not. That was still "trickle-down". We need not only something that's not about privileging the owner class, but also something fit for the modern age of automation, A.I, climate catastrophe, cloud services and globalisation.
@@AtheistEve Brighton and Bristol are the only seats where the Greens actually have a chance of winning. In any other seat, they are essentially irrelevant and a wasted vote.
From my read through my takeaway was that the plans were fairly "safe", some nice ideas but not outlandish. I suppose its harder to make sky high claims when you know you're going to win and might actually be held to those claims.
Like Starver during his leadership bid?!?! 😒 Oh, right, that was about capturing a majority leftie vote share, with the full intention of then purging them all. 😡
What We need to know is what's being held back for fear of compromising their campaigns. Such is the nature of what is being painted as honest and credible.
"Angela Rayner: Every part of Britain will take fair share of migrants" "Party deputy leader insists all authorities must house successful asylum seekers who will be eligible for places in new 1,500,000 social housing" The Telegraph 26/6/24
@@RagingCookie127 asylum seekers escape to the nearest safe country, with the hopes of returning home asap. They don't travel to the most western isles of Europe. Genuine asylum seekers, within a set maximum, and who wish to integrate are welcome.
I dont understand when people insult a politician or party by calling them 'boring'. In my opinion, Boring is the best possible thing a politician could be. Good leadership always looks boring.
I'm a Murrkin. Most of what I know about contemporary British politics (and some of what I know about contemporary Murrkin politics and other things), I know from your fine channel. I was wondering how the Conservatives had managed to stay in charge of the UK for 14 years. Then I saw this video and it became slightly clearer. Punishing corporate execs for literally dumping **** into your water is definitely better than deporting refugees to Rwanda. But having a better way is not much good if you put people to sleep trying to explain your better way to them. Maybe the Lib Dems will pressure Labour into sexy-ing up their presentation a bit? Clearly, for now, "We're not the Tories!" is a winning slogan, but once you've got power, you've got to keep it, and voters tend to very quickly forgot how horrible the last guys were.
Can't be mad at that. I'm pinning my hopes on the fact that they are basically just lying about their proposition at this point, but it feels gross that we are reduced to just outright hoping that a potential PM is just lying directly to us.
@@justsomegeezer69 To be fair, we already know that a potential PM is just lying directly to us, about pretty much anything and everything. We had one of those recently, and look how that turned out. I guess we've all got to either live in hope, or get used to living in the absence of it.
@@methanedirigible the British are known for their refusal to learn or use the correct pronunciations of foreign names/words...you know they use a hard J when saying José, right? 🤣 a deeply colonial attitude, for sure (tbf that's why English is the most spoken language worldwide!)
A few observations. 1. Most Non Doms are extremely mobile what assumptions have Labour made from the loss of income from the Non Doms that leave as against the extra tax they charge on the NonDoms that stay. Currently the UK is third in the world (above Russia) for High Net Worth people leaving the country in preparation for a Labour Government. 2. What assumptions have Labour made for the extra costs of privately educated pupils who cannot afford the VAT joining mainstream education against the revenue assumptions on VAT on private schools. 3. It is said that 90% of your spend on medical care is spent in the year of your death. The baby boomers who were born from 1946 onwards are now 78. Their demographic is 4 times larger than the one behind it. They will start dying enmasse over the next 5 years what assumptions have Labour made about this cost when costing for NHS requirements. 4. A recent article in the telegraph estimated that the upgrading required on the Electricity distribution system to cope with a conversion to electric cars would double the cost of electricity why do Labour think it will actually reduce the cost of electricity. 5. The Labour party states that the bond crisis was caused by the Truss budget was there anything else that happened the week of the Truss budget that would impact the relative demand for UK and US bonds, such as the failure of the Bank of England to copy the 75 basis point rise in interest rates the day before the budget, why does no one mention this and call them out. 6. The fail all of Labour is that even if all fails they will raise growth as when they ran government growth was higher. They fail to mention this was achieved with massive increases in the money supply, selling the country'd gold reserves for $250 an ounce (now $2330 and ounce), putting an extra million people on the public payroll, running up huge debt obligations in the NHS under PFI and leading to a bust of a 15% fiscal deficit that took years to sort out.
The manifesto itself is… fine, but it’s everything else around current Labour that gives me concern. Obviously not the point of this video, but if these vote projections are accurate & they gain a fucking massive majority holding them accountable is going to be massively important. Great video as always, thanks for the series 👏
I feel Labour has been secretive on Defense because they know they will have to spend more the an 2.5% gdp , I also feel that they will massively increase Defense spending when they realise the threat.
Whenever someone says "We help upstreams so that big migrations not happen" I always ask me: What will you do? A bit more foregin help? Or is it again a partnership with some dictator to let migrants disappear in camps?
After 14 tough years -especially for the poorest -and this is what Labour has to offer....a continuation of 'One Nation' Conservativism. There will no doubt be more cuts (under a new fancy name), protecting the wealthest whilst saying 'we are having to make tough decisions because of the mess we were left with' - just like Cameron and Osborne did. Actually, the tougher decisions would be to be bolder and braver and introduce a wealth tax instead of constantly cutting services.
Honestly, a pretty disappointing manifesto, certainly a step in the right direction but not nearly ambitious enough, I think it really speaks to how years of austerity have made the british in general think in minutia rather than be ambitious with what our country can acheive. Also, really good video, the humour was absolutely on point
@@hugepumpkin8094they know what a woman is, don't support bringing in third world criminals who r@pe women, don't allow people to live off of benefits if they don't need them, increase number of doctors and don't force you to pay tax unless you earn over 20k a year.
I know this is a ways off, but I think a future video comparing Labor’s promises to the reality of what they do, after their four year-tenure is up would be a great idea. Just a thought, I’m not even British
We have five-year Parliaments.
@@slayr399 Four years would be enough to judge though
@@kingflynxi9420 I doubt it, after 14 years of the Conservatives.
Can we start by doing one for the tories from 14 years ago til now?
@@slayr399 Four years is long enough to judge if the government is making incremental progress on their promises.
If Sir Keir’s father was a toolmaker, let’s hope that his son is not the biggest tool that he made 😮
sizeist 😝
He is
Keir is a fine man. The UK will be fine
Liz truss isn’t dead yet
Starmer's dad was a toolmaker?! Wow what a shock, how come no one ever mentioned this before??
Geezer keeping his word. Doing the hard work. Most importantly so I dont have to.
“Hello, I’m the Politics Critic…”
FINE COMPANIES BASED ON A PERCENTAGE OF THEIR NET WORTH / PROFITS. Thanks for coming to my TED Talk.
that percentage being 190%.
So, the word you're looking for is "tax".
And honestly we want to be taxing shareholders more than companies. It's them that suck money out of the econony and encourage the worst buisness practices to sustain their cashflow.
@@CM-db5cg No, I meant “fine”. In addition to taxing companies and shareholders, when they’re punished for breaking the law (Meta, Google, etc.), they should be fined a certain percentage of their value, instead of a flat 1 000 000 000 £ or something like that.
@@Adam-326 Yeah, im sure fining the few remaining successful companies in the UK for absolutely no reason will absolutely result in an economic turnaround.
@@Yku30 I’m not sure that breaking the law counts as “absolutely no reason” and I’m not sure how you can make that assumption without knowing what percent of their value will comprise the fine. I’m also not sure that allowing entities to get away with crimes because they’re “successful” is a good idea in the long run, nor that there is absolutely no other way to make any sort of economic recovery. But, hey, what do I know?
Ensuring labour don't coast by simply for not being the Tories is why it's important that the Tories get utterly obliterated and replaced as main opposition party by the Lib Dems. The Lib Dem manifesto is actually promising impressive shit and is arguably more left wing than Labour's right now.
_inarguably_ so
hell no the lib dems arent left wing
Reform will be the official opposition and if people vote tactically, reform could form a government with the conservatives.
Keep in mind that labor is also going to be the likely winner, whereas lib dems are an unlikely winner. This means that labor can’t promise a bunch of stupid shit they actually can’t do or things that sounds good on paper but would have an adverse effect on the economy if implemented.
This is why a lot of things they promise is so tame. You can’t just wave your hand and implement changes. You can’t just promise more doctors when there are barely any incentives for doctors to actually pursue a career in the UK, you can’t implement wealth tax when it’ll just lead to more tax evasion.
Liberal Democrats are less left wing but more Liberal than Labour.
Too bad they lost a generations trust.
Honestly, I found the Lib Dems one to be the best. Labour and Tory are shady and are quite literally very similiar churches to each other.
(Edit: OMG thanks so much!)
Ratchet affect in real time.
To be a little cynical, the Lib Dem’s don’t have to make a manifesto that works. They aren’t going to win the election so can promise bigger things easier. Even a manifesto that seems well costed can lean to be on the more generous side than since you won’t be accountable for delivering what you say.
Labour should have been more ambitious though. By all data they look to be on track to win by a silly big majority and will basically be able to pass whatever they want.
The Lib Dems could realistically be the opposition, all it takes is tactical voting. The tories are ridiculously close to falling over the edge into 3rd or 4th place due to the razor thin margins of their projected seats won
But at least Labour will deliver on their promises.
@@mildlydispleased3221 like theyve done in the past?
I actually like the Labour manifesto. It's a good mix of interventionist policy but also allowing the private sector to do its thing such as reforming the planning system and reducing NIMBYism. There was a recent article about how a proposal for 'Europe's largest data centre' in Havering was opposed by residents.
The current planning system was put in place by Labour after WW2. It’s nice to see them go back on it because I’ve heard it’s actually the reason why so many of our infrastructure projects go over budget
@@lordbaconn6591 Yep
It is a total fraud - sounds great but none of it will be implemented - and if some of it is - it will be at great cost to all of us. Vote REFORM
I feel like labour is being aggressively pragmatic in literally every aspect of their campaign, right down to the manifesto entirely because they know how biased and negative the British press is, particularly the English press. I'm curious to see what they do once they're in power
If you already know the press is going to smear you, you might as well have a genuinely visionary progressive platform instead of trying to go as close to the tories as possible.
@@PlatinumAltaria That's been tried. It didn't work.
@@Hartley_Hare It was tried one time...
@@PlatinumAltaria With a wildly unsuitable person at the helm.
"If you want to know everything that's in the manifesto, I recommend you go read it"
Outrageous!
Thing is, Starmer can't make too many shattering proposals until he gets into Number 10 and sees what crud Rishi Rich and his predecessors left.
otoh, he doesn't actually _want_ to make any big proposals, because he has no real interest in implementing any.
We already know how bad the fiscal situation is from publicly available data, that's exactly why Labour have been reserved with their policy plans. Until interest rates come down and the economy starts growing there's zero fiscal headroom. Any overly ambitious un-costed (or badly costed as is the case with the LibDem manifesto) would lead to another collapse in the bond market like we saw under Truss.
@@mikey-wl2jt He probably does there just isn't the money to do anything big right now so he can't promise anything.
@@ddandymann I disagree. Money is fake and deficit spending is not inherently bad. I truly feel it's not money that is lacking but will.
@@mikey-wl2jt I also agree deficit spending isn't bad, I'm by no means a fiscal hawk. However we got a very clear demonstration under Truss of what happens when policies are very poorly costed in an already high debt fiscal environment, and I don't want a repeat of that. Remember as far as the financial markets are concerned unfunded spending is the same as unfunded tax cuts.
I liked the Lib Dem and Green Manifestos the best. The Greens are ambitious as Hell (like a 2030 net zero target and investing in green energy in Africa) and I can respect that, but there are just too many obviously impossible things in there that make it obviously clear they are a party obviously unprepared for any amount of power, whereas the Lib Dems strike a good balance between ambitious and realistic. Labor targeting 2040 for net zero is too fucking far. The fact that the Tories are also targeting 2040 says everything that needs to be said.
The Tories and Labour are both targeting 2050, not 2040. The Lib Dem’s are a bit more ambitious, but only set their the date at 2045.
@@bp-lx7lf Oh fuck that's even more shit. Like, the UK is a nation where like 10 percent of people own air conditioning. How the fuck is this country going to put up with kicking the environmental can down the road as they bake in their houses for three months a year?
Ambitious political schemes are easy to promise when you have essentially zero chance at power. Its the cornerstone of socialist parties the world over.
The uk accounts for 2% of total global emissions, they make no difference whatsoever, forget net zero.
I was waiting for this video!
Your videos on the manifestos have been so helpful - thank you
No worries, cheers!
I would love to vote Lib Dem in my area, but because of our crappy FPTP system I need to vote Labour to punt the local Tory out.
Would be so nice if *any* party reformed the voting system to Single Transferable Vote or even Proportional Representation.
It's up to you, of course, but why replace one Tory with another?
You can be sure Labour won't take your reservations about voting for them into account, they'll just say their victory vindicates their policies whilst they beat you over the head with their massive majority.
I'm not a fan of the LibDems, but at least a vote for them would indicate you're one more person that's dissatisfied with Tory economics, regardless of the colour of the rosette.
I feel the exact same way, and am also stuck in a "tory stronghold" constituency. What's worse is that the MP is Liz Truss of all people. :(
I'll try this comment again, as it got deleted.
It's up to you, of course, but why replace one Tory with another?
You can be sure Labour won't take your reservations about voting for them into account, they'll just say their victory vindicates their policies whilst they beat you over the head with their massive majority.
I'm not a fan of the LibDems, but at least a vote for them would indicate you're one more person that's dissatisfied with Tory economics, regardless of the colour of the rosette.
Same for me. :(
(Libdem is trying to do this.)
I'm concerned about what the manifesto does _not_ say: not taking railway rolling stock back into public ownership; not scrapping voter ID law; not repealing the recent changes to public order law; not removing the 2 child benefit cap; no rent control; no council house building program; no reform of drugs law; no opposition to genocide being carried out by our allies; and no mention of the expanded "antisemitism" (aka anti-zionism) laws that I'm convinced Starmer wants to introduce.
Why do you hate business
@@theXveritat taking back the railways isn't anti business it keeps changing ownership and is a mess
@@pigeon5700 The state already owns the railways technically, which is a problem in itself. Although I didn't mention railways. The other dude wants rent control which is absolutely disgusting. Not to mention they want council houses, another repugnant idea. And to make it all worse they want more benefits, there should be no benefits for having children.
@@theXveritatSo no benefits for having children then, so I’m guessing you want mass immigration to top up the population then? Cause no one gonna have kids if that’s the case
Rent control has never worked in any cities that have implemented it. Housing won't be built by anyone but the government, who are shit
Good luck, Brits. That's all I got.
Edit: those Trump golf courses are great sites for E-windmills.
Or some new forests...
Here, here!
Heres to hopung that LibDems will put pressure on Labour to fix shit
As much as I am sympathetic to the Labour government, it never fully addressed the elephant in the room. Brexit. A European nation-state that once had unbridled access to a continent-wide common market with free movement of peoples that enriched our society. A noble and incredible idea. I have since temporarily moved to Spain because I see no future for me in the UK. I was living at home with my parents at 38 because I could not afford private rent; a mortgage was a pipe dream. I only have 90 days living in Spain because of the wonders of Brexit but dear lord, what a difference! A more livable and affordable country and my everyday anxiety has dissipated. After my three months are up, I will not return to the UK. I will live elsewhere. I am not sure how I am going to do it. Yet an overriding aspect that drives me is that I will not return to that dreadful place that caused me such anxiety in the first place. A nation that is so expensive, filled with decaying austerity-inspired potholed streets, drugs, homelessness, food banks and this awing for populist politics. The UK is where I was born and grew but I no longer see it as my home.
It’s crazy how most people will vote Labour because the Conservatives are doing so badly at running the country😂
Voting for a parties opposition because they're doing a shit job shouldn't be crazy, it should be the expected result.
What's crazy is that the tories have been fucking up the country for 14 years without this happening.
That's all that happens in (mostly) two-party systems
You'd rather let the Tories back in just because you don't like Labour?
It doesn't matter why they vote. only that they vote.
Tbf that’s just the nature of two party politics.
Baby, wake up; a new JSG video about the lukewarm Labour manifesto just dropped
Thanks Some Geezer- just the right amount and kind of information I wanted. Really not excited enough to read the entire manifesto Tbh, so I appreciate you doing this so we don't have to and giving us the key points
Will you be covering the SNP manifesto, Geezer? Scottish subscriber here and was just curious. I know the SNP are not a UK-wide party but they're still important political players. Keep up the good work.
Now PLEASE cover the green manifesto
It is a lot LOT shorter.
Although he'd probably be banned from all Google platforms for platforming left-of-centre.
I am excited for this one
@@ChrispyNut well i mean right wingers get deplatformed too so youtube really is just a little napoleon
@@KwasnyyKwasny Not nearly as much. They merely upset the advertisers, lefties threaten the status quo, which means their power.
The Greens are lunatics - Socialist Wets. Vote REFORM
I voted for Labour
How on earth have I gotten interested in 🇬🇧 Elections from the USA? It feels that I totally don’t belong here.
British and American politics is a bit different. The Tories are probably where the Democrats are and Reform is Republicans
Green, Lib dem, and labour are probably more left wing/ socialist than any American politician who's likely to get in is.
Actually it gives a different perspective. Maybe useful? Idk
Pull up a chair Tanner, grab a cuppa and chat about the weather. All welcome here. Wherever you're from.
Reform are only Republican in the sense they're also right populist (even though Farage sees his party as right centrist and calls the Tories socialists). Reform supporters/politicians by and large are pretty hard right (not far-right).
Hey John, a lot of people love you and we want you to do what's best for yourself
I’m hoping for the best, planning for the worst. It’s not like there is a real choice. Hopefully the LibDems can become the opposition and maybe shift the Overton window a bit.
I'd be quite interested to see your Reform and Green manifesto videos as well tbh, nice work fella
The problem I see with the manifesto, is that spending is predicated on economic growth over 5 years...if I understood it correctly. Forecasting economic growth beyond. 12 months is next to impossible. Making plans is fine, it's events that throw you off. I hope they get in but equally, that they haven't bet the farm on growth. Where's the backup plan?
We have cancelled every payment we used to donate to charities, we cannot afford the payments now.
“For people that are interested in politics but aren’t complete virgins”
That is a slim margin online.
Please can u do a video on reform uk party manifesto?
it's nigel. that's all we need to know.
@@mikey-wl2jtwhat a lovely comment that really helps educate people
@@TheMerchantGuild lmaoo yeah, because it's my job as a random RUclips commenter to "educate" anyone. troll better, numpty.
Is stopping new flats from being sold as leaseholds a good thing?
Yes. There is a common hold form of ownership that was specifically created during the 1997-2010 government to replace leasehold to solve the problems of freehold wrt flats and gives flat owners greater rights as to how the duties of block management and maintenance are dealt with compared to being subject to feudal duties to the freehold owner under a lease.
Yes. It may shock you but a high proportion of leaseholds are sold without the buyer understanding what that means....
I am way too excited about being bored sh*bless by politics. Think we've had enough of the old Chinese curse "may you live in interesting times".... Thanks Geezer, top drawer stuff, as ever. Love you tooooooo
Not too bad of a manifesto, makes me want to support them even more now
Well done. My guess on why Labour is so non specific is to avoid oneupmanship with any of the other parties but mainly the Conservatives. They are ahead and have nothing to gain by stating numbers which can then be bested by the others.
Soo non specific and nothing about how they are going to fund the NHS and specifically reducing waiting lists
Also the latest 'trend' by Leftists is to lie about what they will do - which is to raise TAXES against the so called Rich. Vote REFORM which gives the people a chance to challenge both parties - Labor and Tories.
Will you be doing reform?
That should be funny.
@@AtheistEve
Anything with net zero will be funny.
Labour have to climb out of this hole that they have been thrown into. The manifesto should be a no nonsense, straight to the point deal. But at the same time it dose not want to be a circus of elaborate ideas that cannot possibly come to any climax. What we really need to do is just be patient. Lots of work that needs to be done.
so glad to have found your channel, thanks for the great videos!
*TLDR:*
We promise Labour will do little more than what the Tories did 10 or so years ago! We promise nothing will change, and to manage decline! We'll pander to corpos and ray sis ts, and ensure the neoliberal rightwing hold on the Labour party, doesn't weaken! Yay! Great news everyone!
Which is the only way "Labour"[sic] are permitted to enter government in the Neoliberal era.
Left of centre? No no no, here come the smear campaigns, backroom blackmailing and massive "donations" to their opponents.
The "managed decline" is kind of nice, now and again, to break up the catastrophic decline the Blue Tories unleash on us, which unfortunately means the punt up rage that's ready to overthrow the whole lot, eases up, permitting the decline to continue.
Wise up man. Nothing about their manifesto says any of that.
You're definitely one of those who thing thing should automatically change over night despite not even knowing the state of the economy until the keys to number 11 are handed over.
Literally anyone who is forward thinking and not stuck in their feelings knows that this parliament will be thin on the ground.
But yea, keep on screeching while the rest of us carry on living in the real world ye neep
And no... My vote likely isn't going to Labour before you come back with a predictable retort
Do you always hear what you imagine, louder than what people actually say?
Or do you just like the support of other morons for your propagandist BS?
If you’re not using current facts, you’re doing my country a disservice.
Stop it.
And what would your plan be?
We have a debt to GDP ratio of 100% with high interest rates meaning a huge chunk of the budget is going on debt repayments. Any high spending policies would require a huge increase in tax revenue, and speculative taxes like a wealth tax that have been proven time and time again to not work as intended in a global financial system will not be enough to pick up the slack. You would have to increase the big three taxes which overwhelmingly hit working people, and no one will vote for a party planning to do that.
I would love it if we could introduce policies such as a negative income tax topping up the income of everyone earning less than £15k a year, £50 billion a year of additional funding to stabilise and modernise the NHS and a renationalisation of the utility and rail companies. But we live in the real world and not a fantasy land so those policies are completely unaffordable.
Well they wanna nationalise the railway atleast and make great British energy
Awesome journalism. Keep going guys. ❤️🙏
It may sound just like plain bread, but in reality it's at least better than just destroyed burnt toast if we use toast as a metaphor
…there’s brands on school uniforms in the UK?
like school logos, which means that clothes companies can charge higher prices for said clothes because they are the only people that make them
Remember, you’re not a British political party unless one of the first things you do while in power is to start passing authoritarian, freedom restricting laws.
Starmer’s Labour; the death of hope
Tories are total toast. Labour will win by a landslide.. So go nuts.. Vote for who you really want... Help the other lefter parties.. Do not give torie labour a massive majority, or nothing will change....
I agreed with most of labours policies other than the more police one, i think of police as more of a gang in this county rather than civilian protection.
Yup they did
I do actually want a new parliament for British people
The only thing that really lights my fire in this manifesto is re-nationalising the railways
This has been a great series. Honestly. Thank you. Not enough people do it and that’s we end up arguing about things we clearly have not researched. I actually went and read them my self and I feel more informed. For me it’s about the economy, health, and equality. On that basis I’ve made up my mind about who I will be voting Lib Dem. The proposal to close cushy tax holes that the super wealthy, big Tech and big banks benefit from is especially appealing. And reducing capital gains tax so that we actually make money when we sell our houses or other assets. I just wish people would give them a bit more time👏👏👏👏
Hope u go far I just subscribed finally someone who speaks proper English ❤😂
I'm glad you mentioned the overload of Starmer photos in their manifesto. I noticed that immediately and wondered if it was just me.
Electoral Reform: They should do away withthe FPTP and replace w proportional representation. This will completely do away w the Torries
Actually it probably wouldn't. It would likely lead to more centre tories
@@rivenessgood, had enough of the right wing
@kingpig8732 from experience of fptp, it tends to soften most sides until you get a dramatic shift.
Defo fed up of right wing.
Reform are still standing by their pro nazi candidates
Reform are still standing by their misogynistic candidates
Reform are still standing by pro putin farage.
Reform are still standing of the mocking of all those killed by the ira by "up the ra" Farage
And how well would Яeform do under PR? Quite well. Don’t tempt fate.
@@methanedirigible They wouldnt in proportional representation there are thresholds like min 5% vote share and such.
The best surprise thing they can and should do, is introducing PR.
Unfortunately that’s bad for them, as they benefit from being “the other party” whenever the Tories fuck up. And it’s the tories, so they do that at least once per generation 😂
Basically Labour benefits from fptp like the tories, so they’re not likely to remove it, especially as the tories are historically weak and they can speculate to get a 10/15+ mandate (by winning the elections for the next decade or so).
@@ilianceroniWell, if the Lib Dems get into opposition they could bring that to the table, after all they did force the 2011 AV referendum so they have the will, and they could definitely challenge Labour over it
@@kingpig8732 true, that’s the most likely path to get pr or any electoral reform, I guess🤔
@@kingpig8732 reform would benefit more from PR than the Lib Dems. They’re polling higher at the moment.
Thanks for the work mate, this is the most useful way my uneducated european mind is getting updated on british politics xxx
what is gb energy it doesnt seem to include building PowerStation's nor wind or solor its a great headline but i cant find out what exactly it means
I like the pledge to hire 6,500 new teachers, and it is great that it is costed, with the funding coming from the reintroduction of VAT on private school fees. But it seems light on detail. How will they recruit them? Upping wages for teachers? Subsidising or making teacher training free? Particularly in the case of the latter, how long will it take for the teachers to be hired and in place in schools?
This time around, I’m going LD. Their manifesto speaks to me the most and more importantly, they don’t back Brexit. Also, they seem to want to address the constant sprawl of new housing estates popping up (who wants a used new-build?) with a genuine alternative, so that’ll hopefully appeal to Millennials and Zoomers.
Really useful and digestible video! You did keep saying you found the lack of figures disheartening but I prefer it, id rather they broadly outline plans than throwing impossible figures in the air they then don’t achieve 😅 Its a refreshing change
That's fair! With everything that I've said in order to be remotely critical in this video, it's still a million miles ahead of a potential Conservative Party win 😂
Does the manifesto mention anything about ending zero hour contracts, stopping channel crossers, a vision on handling AI in workplace and education, making houses more affordable and preventing rich landlords from buying up homes and renting them out to multiple not-well-off young people?.... if not, then still not got my vote yet then as these are the biggest worries for the country at this time!!!
Stay at home and hide then
You haven't mentioned about spouse visa requirements, as you said other things about migration but then you said the rest might go back to normal so the requirements of spouse visa will go back to £18,600 ?
Love you work, thanks for the last three quality videos
Are you going to do one on snp, green and reform?
*Will the economy ever return to pre 2008 levels?*
No 🥰
And it never will under this Thatcherite economic system.
Nope. Neoliberalism will see to that, that and Brexit, and US corporate interests, and the inevitable wars.
No. That's over. We're about managed decline.
No, this country is finished. New Zealand here I come.
I hope not. That was still "trickle-down". We need not only something that's not about privileging the owner class, but also something fit for the modern age of automation, A.I, climate catastrophe, cloud services and globalisation.
We’ve already voted 💚
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A vote for the Greens is a vote for the Tories (unless you live in Bristol and Brighton, in which case, vote green!!! 💚💚💚
@@AverageLadd not just Brighton and Bristol.
@@AtheistEve Brighton and Bristol are the only seats where the Greens actually have a chance of winning. In any other seat, they are essentially irrelevant and a wasted vote.
And it happened...
From my read through my takeaway was that the plans were fairly "safe", some nice ideas but not outlandish. I suppose its harder to make sky high claims when you know you're going to win and might actually be held to those claims.
Like Starver during his leadership bid?!?! 😒
Oh, right, that was about capturing a majority leftie vote share, with the full intention of then purging them all. 😡
What We need to know is what's being held back for fear of compromising their campaigns. Such is the nature of what is being painted as honest and credible.
That will save me looking at the tory manifesto.
"Angela Rayner: Every part of Britain will take fair share of migrants"
"Party deputy leader insists all authorities must house successful asylum seekers who will be eligible for places in new 1,500,000 social housing"
The Telegraph 26/6/24
If they're SUCCESSFUL asylum seekers then that's totally fine. Granting asylum to people isn't inherently bad.
@@RagingCookie127 asylum seekers escape to the nearest safe country, with the hopes of returning home asap.
They don't travel to the most western isles of Europe.
Genuine asylum seekers, within a set maximum, and who wish to integrate are welcome.
I dont understand when people insult a politician or party by calling them 'boring'. In my opinion, Boring is the best possible thing a politician could be. Good leadership always looks boring.
I live in Fareham who should I vote for?
???
Tories won there in 2019
Lib Dems came 2nd apparently.
Strategic voting sites say Lib Dem.
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Tories look like there gonna win here and I want to ensure they don’t get in
I'm a Murrkin. Most of what I know about contemporary British politics (and some of what I know about contemporary Murrkin politics and other things), I know from your fine channel. I was wondering how the Conservatives had managed to stay in charge of the UK for 14 years. Then I saw this video and it became slightly clearer.
Punishing corporate execs for literally dumping **** into your water is definitely better than deporting refugees to Rwanda. But having a better way is not much good if you put people to sleep trying to explain your better way to them. Maybe the Lib Dems will pressure Labour into sexy-ing up their presentation a bit? Clearly, for now, "We're not the Tories!" is a winning slogan, but once you've got power, you've got to keep it, and voters tend to very quickly forgot how horrible the last guys were.
will you do green party?
Would be nice if you put these into a playlist.
They had a chance to win me back but they fucked it. I’m going all in on the Lib Debs
Can't be mad at that. I'm pinning my hopes on the fact that they are basically just lying about their proposition at this point, but it feels gross that we are reduced to just outright hoping that a potential PM is just lying directly to us.
@@justsomegeezer69 Thanks for putting yourself through all these for us 🙂
@@justsomegeezer69 To be fair, we already know that a potential PM is just lying directly to us, about pretty much anything and everything.
We had one of those recently, and look how that turned out. I guess we've all got to either live in hope, or get used to living in the absence of it.
@@justsomegeezer69 Why wouldn’t Starmer lie? He lied in order to become leader.
How about NHS,Social Care,Pensioners,and Higher Education,Cost of Living.
You are literally my top 5 favourite youtubers
Regarding LGBT rights, they are becoming as bad as the Tories. So bloody disappointing 😔
Agreed
US style culture war nonsense that is intentionally being brought over combined with Labour ratchet affect etc. yeh, its gonna be bad for minorities.
Don't look to red tories, look elsewhere I think. maybe help build somehting locally too?
@@Iymarra yes, agree local parties seem better 🙏
@@satyasyasatyasya5746it not gonna be bad for minorities at all.
Thank you for spelling "Pewtin" in a way that is phonetically accurate for most British people 😆
That always bugged me - why do so many people say ‘Pewtin’?! It’s just wrong
@@methanedirigible the British are known for their refusal to learn or use the correct pronunciations of foreign names/words...you know they use a hard J when saying José, right? 🤣 a deeply colonial attitude, for sure (tbf that's why English is the most spoken language worldwide!)
A few observations. 1. Most Non Doms are extremely mobile what assumptions have Labour made from the loss of income from the Non Doms that leave as against the extra tax they charge on the NonDoms that stay. Currently the UK is third in the world (above Russia) for High Net Worth people leaving the country in preparation for a Labour Government. 2. What assumptions have Labour made for the extra costs of privately educated pupils who cannot afford the VAT joining mainstream education against the revenue assumptions on VAT on private schools. 3. It is said that 90% of your spend on medical care is spent in the year of your death. The baby boomers who were born from 1946 onwards are now 78. Their demographic is 4 times larger than the one behind it. They will start dying enmasse over the next 5 years what assumptions have Labour made about this cost when costing for NHS requirements. 4. A recent article in the telegraph estimated that the upgrading required on the Electricity distribution system to cope with a conversion to electric cars would double the cost of electricity why do Labour think it will actually reduce the cost of electricity. 5. The Labour party states that the bond crisis was caused by the Truss budget was there anything else that happened the week of the Truss budget that would impact the relative demand for UK and US bonds, such as the failure of the Bank of England to copy the 75 basis point rise in interest rates the day before the budget, why does no one mention this and call them out. 6. The fail all of Labour is that even if all fails they will raise growth as when they ran government growth was higher. They fail to mention this was achieved with massive increases in the money supply, selling the country'd gold reserves for $250 an ounce (now $2330 and ounce), putting an extra million people on the public payroll, running up huge debt obligations in the NHS under PFI and leading to a bust of a 15% fiscal deficit that took years to sort out.
Thank you very much for this.
Are you planning on doing green or reform ?
Cheers again bro 🎉
"disgraced members"? There's a lot of those in the HoL
a lot of them are disgraces for sure
The public are being conned. Labour and Tory's serve the same donors. Reform is the only party that will make a difference.
How?
@@nicks4934 Both parties are globalists. there is no hope with either of them.
“I don’t need a hundred thousand pictures of Kier Starmer looking all stoic and sexy. That’s what my bedroom wall is for.” 😂
If they stick to this I will be happy I am not sure what more you would want?
“That’s what my bedroom wall is for!”
Pretty fantastic summation😁❤️
Enjoying these vids
The manifesto itself is… fine, but it’s everything else around current Labour that gives me concern. Obviously not the point of this video, but if these vote projections are accurate & they gain a fucking massive majority holding them accountable is going to be massively important. Great video as always, thanks for the series 👏
I feel Labour has been secretive on Defense because they know they will have to spend more the an 2.5% gdp , I also feel that they will massively increase Defense spending when they realise the threat.
They need to ban vapes right away
Whenever someone says "We help upstreams so that big migrations not happen" I always ask me: What will you do? A bit more foregin help? Or is it again a partnership with some dictator to let migrants disappear in camps?
I feel like they are going down the Miliband way of undercommitting and over-delivering.
*his father owned a tool-making workshop and was not working class. The people he employed were.
After 14 tough years -especially for the poorest -and this is what Labour has to offer....a continuation of 'One Nation' Conservativism. There will no doubt be more cuts (under a new fancy name), protecting the wealthest whilst saying 'we are having to make tough decisions because of the mess we were left with' - just like Cameron and Osborne did. Actually, the tougher decisions would be to be bolder and braver and introduce a wealth tax instead of constantly cutting services.
Honestly, a pretty disappointing manifesto, certainly a step in the right direction but not nearly ambitious enough, I think it really speaks to how years of austerity have made the british in general think in minutia rather than be ambitious with what our country can acheive.
Also, really good video, the humour was absolutely on point
Voting REFORM - never trust Labor.
@@sabejreid2072 What makes Reform more trustworthy than a misspelt "Labor"?
@@hugepumpkin8094they know what a woman is, don't support bringing in third world criminals who r@pe women, don't allow people to live off of benefits if they don't need them, increase number of doctors and don't force you to pay tax unless you earn over 20k a year.
its amazing how they can put out a mannifesto thats 136 pages thats also completely blank