Ganyu vs Lyney Using The Same Team Gameplay Comparisons & Damage Showcases! Who’s The Superior DPS??

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  • Опубликовано: 8 июн 2024
  • #genshinimpact #lyney #lynette #ganyu
    4.0 Genshin Impact Fontaine
    A Gameplay and damage comparisons and showcases between C0R1 Ganyu versus C0R1 Lyney using the same team which includes Bennett Xiangling and Zhongli. And with that, who’s the superior or best DPS between these broken characters???
    0:00 Crowned C0R1 Ganyu
    0:25 Crowned C0R1 Lyney
    0:53 Side by Side
    1:13 Verdict???
    Build
    C0 Level 90 Lyney
    R1 Level 90 The First Great Magic
    Talents Level 10-8-8
    CR/CD: 80/260
    ATK 2760
    4pc Lavawalker
    C0 Level 90 Ganyu
    R1 Level 90 Amo’s Bow
    Talents Level 10-8-8
    CR/CD: 80/260
    ATK 2540
    EM 130
    4pc Wanderer’s Troupe
    Teammates
    C6 Bennett
    C0 Zhongli
    C6 Xiangling
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  • @sleepyheartss
    @sleepyheartss 9 месяцев назад +54

    Don’t have to pick a best. This might be a hot take in the Genshin community, but as a bow main I love them both 😎

  • @janniko6681
    @janniko6681 9 месяцев назад +22

    Lyney is like Ganyu and Hu Tao combined where he has both CA and front-loaded dmg via his skill that is fully buffed with his stacking passive. Because it is not optimal to use Ganyu’s burst in melt teams, she loses out on a 20% cryo dmg bonus while Lyney fully utilized his kit in his rotation. Their playstyle is totally different as well. 90% of ganyu’s dmg comes from CA dmg while Lyney gets most of his damage from his skill. Lyney is not a pyro Ganyu. They’re not the same, which will give you different results.

    • @beastunleashed657
      @beastunleashed657 8 месяцев назад +2

      One smol correction, you can use Ganyu burst in sunfire melt teams. It gives more DMG but harder to play

  • @jellythewomanconsumer1590
    @jellythewomanconsumer1590 9 месяцев назад +101

    Something people should keep in mind is that lyney's damage is NOT gonna be better with melt.
    The main reason lyney is doing this much damage is because of his second ascension passive which gives him 100% damage bonus(which is basically melt since it also gives you 100% dmg bonus to your attacks or a 2x multiplier. They are the same)
    Doing melt or other reactions with lyney would mean that second ascension passive is not gonna activate since it requires the enemy to have pyro aura on them. Melt requires the enemy to have cryo aura for you to trigger it. Two points I wanted to share was that
    1. Lyney's damage is not better with Melt. It is just gonna be more or less the same as hitting enemy with pyro aura.
    2. His second ascension passive gives him a damage bonus equivalent to a melt reaction.

    • @chronopolize_jp
      @chronopolize_jp 9 месяцев назад +7

      Vape is 1.5x, 100dmg% is additive with other dmg%. In practice you usually have 100% dmg bonus from goblet and set and buff, so his a4 increases your dmg by 100% / (100%+100%) or 50%.
      Reaction can do more dmg by switching to em sands and using em substats. But the reason why mono pyro is better is way easier vv shred and Xiangling does more dmg then other off field hydro options.

    • @jellythewomanconsumer1590
      @jellythewomanconsumer1590 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@chronopolize_jpoh my bad yeah I mean melt

    • @devanshverma6477
      @devanshverma6477 9 месяцев назад +9

      I can say you are ganyu main

    • @betatrix2545
      @betatrix2545 9 месяцев назад +1

      also his ascension passive affects his physical normal attacks too, which means they can do good damage if you ever want to run him physical for some odd reason

    • @darrendarren8935
      @darrendarren8935 9 месяцев назад +4

      Dont forget he's fighting the pyro vishap, which has high pyro res

  • @chronopolize_jp
    @chronopolize_jp 9 месяцев назад +47

    As someone who owns them both, Ganyu ST damage is a lot less than lyney but she has freeze and her kazuha burn melt is quite good.

    • @lqfr8813
      @lqfr8813 9 месяцев назад +4

      will lyney energy for 2nd rotation filled in spiral abyss? melt ganyu doesnt need her burst like lyney

    • @Candytime9
      @Candytime9 9 месяцев назад +8

      @@lqfr8813 Lyney's burst cost is 60, so while not the lowest it is not too bad even without directly funneling into him because of the mono pyro team plus his skill gives 5 energy particles so it pretty decent. If you have a fav user you can get it very often but even without a fav user it is not too bad.

    • @den1m0ut55
      @den1m0ut55 9 месяцев назад +6

      ​@@lqfr8813With mono pyro he's gonna be getting his burst back alot anyways

    • @DuyHungPham-gr3yn
      @DuyHungPham-gr3yn 9 месяцев назад

      @@lqfr8813 his burst alway ready so fast, really fast so i just spam it lol 😅 and burst dmg scale really amazing, give a try if u like bow, so now i got two charge bow dps🎉

    • @sgnomiya.odidi1362
      @sgnomiya.odidi1362 9 месяцев назад

      I agree

  • @betatrix2545
    @betatrix2545 9 месяцев назад +31

    I think you could of saved a second on lyney if u charged ur 2nd shot to full or just used e after the first charged. Also your fighting the pyro version of the vishap for ganyu which has pyro resistance

    • @justl.6527
      @justl.6527 8 месяцев назад +1

      Pyro Resistance and he's using Ganyu Against it, I don't think I see anything wrong, the same goes for Lyney

    • @bowkenpachi7759
      @bowkenpachi7759 8 месяцев назад +2

      @@justl.6527half of the supports being Pyro does though - XL puts in work

    • @zer343
      @zer343 7 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@justl.6527xl dmg is nerfed if the enemy was electro or hydro form the ganyu result would be faster

  • @lee_kun
    @lee_kun 9 месяцев назад +4

    I know they are both strong and needs shielder for better experience but the thing I like Ganyu more is her taunt, it can be used first before doing the charge attack (enemies being taunt to flower while Ganyu is preparing her charge attack) oppose to Lyney where his taunt came after doing his charge attack which is useful for his next charge attack. But both are strong and I enjoyed playing both.

  • @moashiyodi4424
    @moashiyodi4424 9 месяцев назад +9

    Tbh i wasnt expecting lyney to be so op
    Plan on getting him later though

  • @jobhaj4364
    @jobhaj4364 9 месяцев назад +19

    Ganyu still amazes me a character that 2 years old and till now she can compete with a broken character like lyney this why she is the real CocoGOAT

  • @Haizou
    @Haizou 9 месяцев назад +6

    Freeze is still pretty op however u don’t need to freeze the enemy if it’s already dead lol

  • @MikaKim-qr4fm
    @MikaKim-qr4fm 6 месяцев назад +2

    Yk, I would say that Ganyu is better than Lyney. People may say her playstyle is boring, but with a shield it's comfortable. I think that's good enough for me. I have enough fun with the lore, and my fav part abt genshin is the pulling newer characters. Ganyu I would say is much more comfortable (for me) in open world than Lyney personally is. Though, he isn't far behind. Terms of fun if you don't enjoy the same gameplay, and/or bold than me. I would recommend Lyney in terms of gameplay though.

  • @djet-djet2041
    @djet-djet2041 9 месяцев назад +1

    and with the same weapon and no pyro version of this boss ?

  • @ihabnoname104
    @ihabnoname104 9 месяцев назад +27

    Ganyu CA dmg is considerably higher than Lyney's since that's what her kit is based around but Lyneys entire kit put together is considerably stronger than ganyu's kit put together if that makes sense.

    • @Candytime9
      @Candytime9 9 месяцев назад

      Yeah, everything in Lyney's kit is about doing damage or increasing his own damage first and then add external buffs from Bennett and Kazuha/VV (or Petra Zhongli which is decent too). I know people hate it because it is niche or hate the charge shot playstyle but his kit is very well designed to be excellent within his niche. Not a necessity unit nor does he add anything new due to mono pyro Klee teams already existing (though he is an upgrade but not a needed one), but he is going to do very well for those who have him and they don't need to feel like his mono pyro team is a hinderance without reactions. I have all the flexible units that I can put anywhere so I don't mind having a niche unit occasionally.

    • @betatrix2545
      @betatrix2545 9 месяцев назад +16

      her frostflake bloom multiplier only has a 10% difference than lyneys pyrotechnic strike and the prop arrow has a 70% greater multiplier than her frostflake arrow. Her ca dmg isnt considerably higher

    • @warduxe
      @warduxe 9 месяцев назад +10

      @@betatrix2545lyney is mostly singletarget.

    • @lsnexus2080
      @lsnexus2080 9 месяцев назад

      @@betatrix2545 it will be a lot higher since you will have more than 1 target in abyss most of time. if Lyney can hit equal damage but ST, then ganyu is doing more since it may hit more than 1 enemy. let it be 5 or 10 enemies and it will deal same numbers to all of them.

    • @ToruFx
      @ToruFx 9 месяцев назад +3

      @@warduxe sure his charged attacks are single target, but are we just acting like he doesnt have an aoe burst nuke AND xianglings pyronado doing a very considerable amount of damage? lol i would say that this team has by far the most aoe in a "single target team"

  • @OlafXD
    @OlafXD 9 месяцев назад +2

    i am using both ganyu off field burst are sooo good

  • @yize4610
    @yize4610 9 месяцев назад

    Porque tarda dos días entre cargado y cargado de Ganyu?

  • @thebluedino6996
    @thebluedino6996 9 месяцев назад +288

    The ganyu mains are mad that lyney is good lol

    • @rizts9477
      @rizts9477 9 месяцев назад +43

      nah, im ganyu main and still, lyney is not my choice. Got Hutao yoimiya btw.

    • @lqfr8813
      @lqfr8813 9 месяцев назад +35

      no, just confused why comparing lyney with ganyu, both have completely different kit. lyney has more gimmick than ganyu for her AOE charge atk

    • @issacclarke4194
      @issacclarke4194 9 месяцев назад +54

      Cuz both kits are centred around charge attack and playstyle is kinda similar?

    • @lqfr8813
      @lqfr8813 9 месяцев назад +8

      @@issacclarke4194 lyney is mono pyro team, he gets buff from other pyro unit and ganyu is solo cryo with AOE charge atk, if lyney can do the same AOE charge atk like ganyu then i get it ppl comparing them.
      .
      obviously if lyney talent is being used to maximum potential he will deal more dmg but is it done in this test?

    • @lost590
      @lost590 9 месяцев назад +1

      Гань юй и против множества врагов хороша, так что она все еще актуальнее, плюс может выступать в роли сапп дд

  • @luiss428
    @luiss428 9 месяцев назад +2

    as a lyney main do note that we threw everything at the vishap while ganyu needed only charged shots to deal massive dmg
    but the thing is if playing melt ganyu (currently said to be her best team dmg wise), her skill and burst are basically non existent lol. no difference ofc but its just boring

    • @i_wont_touch_grass8917
      @i_wont_touch_grass8917 3 месяца назад

      Ganyu's main source of damage is her charged attack and they took a pretty long amount of field time with Lyney in his burst

  • @siapayaaa8269
    @siapayaaa8269 9 месяцев назад

    Do Every bow dps comparison

  • @Jett125
    @Jett125 6 месяцев назад

    Lyney had zhonglis pillar up there so probably had tenacity procs but regardless a charge shot before burst would have cleared quicker

  • @robertuskurniawan2166
    @robertuskurniawan2166 9 месяцев назад +1

    Linney win in first rotation. How about 2nd and 3rd rotation in spyral abyss? (is Linney's energy full again?)

    • @kazukimisaki2312
      @kazukimisaki2312 9 месяцев назад +8

      Since he will have 2-3 pyro team mates, and he generates a lot of particles himself, In most cases, yeah I think his energy will be full again in the next rotation

    • @Candytime9
      @Candytime9 9 месяцев назад +2

      his burst (which is a 60 energy cost) is very easy to fill even without funneling directly to him do to mono pyro teammates and you can add a fav user but that is not overly necessary. His skill also generates 5 particles so that is pretty decent too. I mostly funnel energy into Xiangling with Bennett (and Lyney's skill funnels into himself usually) and still never struggle to get Lyney's burst back up.

    • @betatrix2545
      @betatrix2545 9 месяцев назад

      I dont have energy problems when playing him since his e and bennett generate a lot of particles

    • @robertuskurniawan2166
      @robertuskurniawan2166 9 месяцев назад

      That's great. His Burst makes a lot of damage. He is a very good DPS.

  • @chimatatenkyuuenjoyer452
    @chimatatenkyuuenjoyer452 9 месяцев назад +3

    Why even bother comparing these two good dps characters? Its not like genshin is a competition on who does more dmg, is an open world game.

    • @za_crispy
      @za_crispy 9 месяцев назад

      For fun mostly lol people enjoy different things

    • @nero2440
      @nero2440 9 месяцев назад

      We are in Fontaine right now. We need drama and comparison who's the best 😅

    • @takik.2220
      @takik.2220 7 месяцев назад

      for shits and giggles

  • @asrar_b
    @asrar_b 9 месяцев назад +11

    I would say this comparesion was unfair.
    You used Ganyu against pyro primogeovishap when there is also Xiangling pyronado doing damage in the team then proceed to show her being slower by few seconds (this can be contributed to the pyro resistance and less damage from Xiangling)
    Also Lyne is a frontloaded damage dealer he will do all his damage upfront then you charge the team for the next rotation meanwhile Ganyu is a consistent DPS as long as you get the timing right. If you are comparing who is faster of course frontloaded damage will do better than consistent or backloaded damage.

    • @boss-li9ly
      @boss-li9ly 9 месяцев назад +16

      Cope

    • @lqfr8813
      @lqfr8813 9 месяцев назад +7

      @@boss-li9ly at least he is more knowledgeable than you who only can say "cope" lol

    • @boss-li9ly
      @boss-li9ly 9 месяцев назад +10

      @@lqfr8813 i know lyney and ganyu are about the same i just wanted to be annoying👍

    • @Dragos3
      @Dragos3 9 месяцев назад

      Who said he’s comparing frontlosded or backloaded or consistent lmao he never stated anything cuz it’s just entertainment purposes also xiangling does no damage here so the time difference is minimal, the fact that lyney can even pull faster than ganyu team despite ganyu legit playing “melt” is insane, lyney raw pyro damage output is the highest in this game and no one can compete with that lmfao, what you said is indeed cope, no need to say this comparison was unfair because the outcome is obvious: there is no god dam outcome bruh, that time difference is not everything. You can’t deny lyney is indeed doing more damage than ganyu despite only with no reactions which is absolutely nuts LMAO but anyways both op

    • @lqfr8813
      @lqfr8813 9 месяцев назад

      @@Dragos3 then try to play lyney without his burst and see if he can do same damage like ganyu and her charge atk

  • @NFYT
    @NFYT 9 месяцев назад +2

    now try to do a second rotation, lyney will battery xiangling, but ganyu won't lol. It makes harder the artifact farming and the ER requirements for xiangling lmao.

  • @sed1195
    @sed1195 9 месяцев назад +1

    Personally I think they're both great for their own best and I think they're great to have. For me, I do prefer Lyney's kit and design over Ganyu's. Overall, his team comp is more fun to play.

  • @starryskyhighway9628
    @starryskyhighway9628 9 месяцев назад +2

    well lyney's weapon also proven to slightly better for ganyu lol

  • @oyfum2638
    @oyfum2638 9 месяцев назад

    Lyney vs Hu Tao comparison?

  • @werner9643
    @werner9643 9 месяцев назад +5

    So dps is pretty similar, but ganyu has better aoe right?

    • @gabe7215
      @gabe7215 9 месяцев назад +2

      no, they're pretty much the same but in terms of raw damage output lyney outclasses ganyu

    • @werner9643
      @werner9643 9 месяцев назад +3

      @@gabe7215 i dont have neither of them but from the video looks like that their dps is very similar

    • @Candytime9
      @Candytime9 9 месяцев назад +2

      Ganyu has AOE with her charge shot (plus her burst as well) but Lyney's skill and burst are AOE and can deal pretty impressive numbers and his burst is very easy to fill up (and can be canceled to get his big final hit immediately) so you can spam it a lot so even in AOE he is not too bad. His whole kit is very damage forward.

    • @werner9643
      @werner9643 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@Candytime9 ok thanks for the info

    • @betatrix2545
      @betatrix2545 9 месяцев назад +2

      charged is single target but burst and skill have aoe and have really high scalings. Burst has ~1000% and skill has ~580-680% scaling if you have 3-4 stacks

  • @DstRx99
    @DstRx99 9 месяцев назад

    Btw, ive play both of them in abyss💀

  • @Dubstep_Gun
    @Dubstep_Gun 9 месяцев назад +1

    Two characters of fundamentally failed archetype fighting to death for the spot of most mid on-fielder nobody uses:

  • @alirezashambayati9587
    @alirezashambayati9587 9 месяцев назад +1

    When use ganyu in lyney team and not with shenhe y lyney do mor damage

  • @SK13736
    @SK13736 9 месяцев назад

    I was here to read discussions but rather seeing fights between Ganyu haters and Ganyu lovers😂

  • @alexegoleanu942
    @alexegoleanu942 9 месяцев назад +1

    Well imagine using Lyney with Dehya, Kazuha and Bennett, he might pull ahead

    • @makh4443
      @makh4443 9 месяцев назад +9

      In a team showcase xiangling is very valuable
      Literally the reason he was slightly faster in here bcz xiangling was doing slightly more dmg

    • @FirstNigerianprince
      @FirstNigerianprince 9 месяцев назад +10

      @@makh4443 he didn't get lyneys combo well. It's ca. Ult. Skill CA

    • @lanternarasu6061
      @lanternarasu6061 9 месяцев назад +2

      @@makh4443 with vv shread and with kazuha's DMG bonus we won't need xiangling anyway

    • @makh4443
      @makh4443 9 месяцев назад

      @@lanternarasu6061 yea kazuha is better

    • @makh4443
      @makh4443 9 месяцев назад

      @@FirstNigerianprince dont know dont have him

  • @alfredbarretto
    @alfredbarretto 9 месяцев назад

    Me just reading comments with 0 primogems...

  • @makh4443
    @makh4443 9 месяцев назад +1

    Nice
    Does lyney also deal dmg too?
    As ganyu does i wonder if his charges also deal aoe like ganyus if yes then they are just as good as eachother

    • @Candytime9
      @Candytime9 9 месяцев назад

      When Lyney does a charge shot he creates a malkin hat which can explode for secondary damage, not for every charge shot but it actually deals quite high damage for a secondary effect maybe like every second charge shot it will explode (mine is like 30K and he is not fully maxed yet) it is single target but if you have two enemies the secondary hit might target the second but no gaurantee. However his skill and burst are AOE damage (and quite good damage too) and his burst in mono pyro can be filled up quickly so you can spam it quite a lot. (His burst is long and can hit each enemy once while in hat form but the explosion at the end is also AOE and that is one big AOE hit and it can be canceled early by tapping skill so you can get that instant big hit). Lyney's whole kit is about damage.

    • @makh4443
      @makh4443 9 месяцев назад +2

      @@Candytime9 i see thanks then perhaps they both have same value
      As ganyus burst is also decent and has a good dmg her skill isnt useless either
      Thank you

    • @Candytime9
      @Candytime9 9 месяцев назад +6

      @@makh4443 Both great units in my opinion. But I do get huge entertainment out of the salty Ganyu (and Hutao) mains. So Lyney's release gives me more then just a new good character to play but also a good show.

    • @makh4443
      @makh4443 9 месяцев назад

      @@Candytime9 hehehe
      Now i thought about it q bit forther in subway and remembered that there is something named shenhe and ganyu cqn freeze and works as cryo applier too so she jas a bit more value for now
      Yea i get it😂

    • @Candytime9
      @Candytime9 9 месяцев назад

      @@makh4443 and Ganyu's burst does have some supportive capabilities. Lyney is a selfish and niche dps but comparing damage alone both are excellent but flexibility Ganyu is better (but she is not that flexible, just a little more then Lyney).

  • @natalienatz1903
    @natalienatz1903 9 месяцев назад

    Ganyu's weapon passive probably does not trigger at such distance and considering that she finished later by milliseconds with a non-crit weapon that didn't activate passive and against a pyro geovishap that has high pyro def. Which reduced Xiangling's dmg, she probably would've beaten Lyney
    Plus Ganyu has more flexibility and isn't tied to one type of element. Lyney works only in mono pyro which he can benefit Kazuha's VV and passive quite well but remains restricted to Pyro only units
    Ganyu has better C. ATK AoE even if Lyney has means to deal AoE with skill and burst
    Melt-Ganyu misses out on using the burst which gives her a cryo dmg bonus
    Ganyu came out like 2 years ago and she still can compete with new units. This is absolutely not the win Lyney mains think it is and I'm not even a Ganyu/Lyney main 🥶

  • @Ya_chmo_
    @Ya_chmo_ 9 месяцев назад

    He has charged attacks faster😑

  • @itsukytsuki
    @itsukytsuki 8 месяцев назад

    The Amos bow is really not very good for Ganyu (despite being his favorite bow )

    • @takik.2220
      @takik.2220 7 месяцев назад

      it's still a decent 5 star option given it was her signature and her original bis, I wouldn't go as far to say it's not really good, more so there are now better 5 star options such as aqua

  • @DstRx99
    @DstRx99 9 месяцев назад

    Hmm, btw where's ganyu burst?

    • @DossAttack-nm2df
      @DossAttack-nm2df 9 месяцев назад

      Burst is useless . Is just support

    • @redhaazzouz9261
      @redhaazzouz9261 9 месяцев назад

      ​@@DossAttack-nm2dfburst is useless 😂 try crowding enemys and u'll see what the burst does

    • @takik.2220
      @takik.2220 7 месяцев назад

      @@redhaazzouz9261 my guy, its a dps loss i you're not using freeze, and freeze is not ven close to her best team anymore

  • @konorfon3332
    @konorfon3332 8 месяцев назад

    Автор в твоих руках коза слишком медленная, ты тетиву опускал на 0.5 секунд позже чем надо было

  • @OGS-19
    @OGS-19 9 месяцев назад +9

    Who else agree with me that this compare is not even close to be fair?

    • @F2pvvvgod
      @F2pvvvgod 9 месяцев назад +15

      You liked your own comment

    • @chimchim1516
      @chimchim1516 9 месяцев назад +7

      why? melt ganyu is her highest damage team, if you were to use permafrost against a boss it would take her longer

    • @traninhminh-eric9117
      @traninhminh-eric9117 9 месяцев назад

      How come?

    • @OGS-19
      @OGS-19 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@chimchim1516 no I mean he was taking a lot of time charging her shots + xiangling with leney was dealing her damage as it expected to be while with ganyu she was dealing less damage bcuz of the pyro version of the boss
      Ik that this is a compare between leney's and ganyu's damage but if that's the case he should use dehya with leney instead of xiangling and burnmelt with dehya instead of a casual melt team with ganyu so it'll be fair enough.
      Don't tell me that xiangling will not change the results her damage is too high tho

    • @F2pvvvgod
      @F2pvvvgod 9 месяцев назад

      @@OGS-19 he is mono pyro which makes lyney even worse his dmg is higher than ganyu but for overall his teams are the problem

  • @reallyshaun7313
    @reallyshaun7313 9 месяцев назад

    Ain't gonna lie they both about the same. However, I look at some of these comments saying the test was unfair. (Literally milliseconds apart btw). Both are charged shot characters anyways, so it will be more a more boring playstyle. Most dps characters in genshin get the job done. So why complain that ganyu lost by milliseconds. It's not like she got powercrept. They performed Literally the same. A character released in liyue performed the same than one in fontaine.

  • @ahmedyehia5195
    @ahmedyehia5195 9 месяцев назад

    keep in mind ganyu is melt and lyney is mono pyro
    what about melt lyney

  • @scren8708
    @scren8708 9 месяцев назад +6

    at least use simulacra or hunters path with ganyu bruh

    • @NekooBlack
      @NekooBlack 9 месяцев назад +2

      amo's bow is better than these two for her ^^

    • @scren8708
      @scren8708 9 месяцев назад +6

      @@NekooBlack no it's not, hunters path is ganyu's bis melt weapon, and simulacra is ganyu's 2nd best melt weapon

    • @hutaocrystal
      @hutaocrystal 9 месяцев назад +5

      @@scren8708mmm maybe they don’t have it? At least they give signature weapons :)

    • @scren8708
      @scren8708 9 месяцев назад +2

      @@hutaocrystal they also had tfgm which is still better than amos for ganyu

    • @hops-
      @hops- 9 месяцев назад

      ​@@scren8708i have all of bows and Amos is best for her

  • @juanmanuelhincapiegarcia9074
    @juanmanuelhincapiegarcia9074 9 месяцев назад +1

    That's not the best Ganyu comp and weapon at all

  • @k-BlazeWuthringwaves30
    @k-BlazeWuthringwaves30 9 месяцев назад

    Lyney is superior on some situations
    Ganyu is the same. 😂
    So it depends
    You wanna know who is better try bullying dvalin with ganyu and lyney instead 😂

  • @lqfr8813
    @lqfr8813 9 месяцев назад +1

    i dont get why comparing 2 characters with different kit. its just irrelevant and useless lol

  • @thepunisherone573
    @thepunisherone573 9 месяцев назад

    Tighnari : why did you guys not invite me??

  • @EdgeOfDarknezz
    @EdgeOfDarknezz 9 месяцев назад

    Ganyu had worse time in this video, due to fact, that Geovishap was pyro and xiangling dealt less damage than on Lyney's part.
    But if both are built seriously, Lyney will win, dude can compete with Hu Tao

    • @takitako679
      @takitako679 7 месяцев назад

      Bishh Ganyu is better than hu tao, she’s the og dps

    • @zer343
      @zer343 7 месяцев назад

      Hutao is far bettee than him actually liney compete with klee

  • @meepoo3625
    @meepoo3625 9 месяцев назад

    Dont know, just dont like lyney team bcause its take my childe international team.

  • @norlyntumalin6427
    @norlyntumalin6427 9 месяцев назад

    the combo is bad for lyney he çan nuke that geovishap more faster

  • @muxchi
    @muxchi 9 месяцев назад

    Meh, I'd still choose ganyu even if lyney is better lol

  • @nagaito10
    @nagaito10 9 месяцев назад

    Ganyu’s best team already changed bro
    Ganyu Nahida Benett Kazuha

    • @DossAttack-nm2df
      @DossAttack-nm2df 9 месяцев назад

      No . This team is best

    • @ohhello6427
      @ohhello6427 9 месяцев назад

      ​@@DossAttack-nm2dfthis team is best if you dont want to get hit. i prefer kazu benny and shenhe. easy 210k

  • @balbal9770
    @balbal9770 9 месяцев назад +1

    "Voila"

  • @Sunnyismyusername
    @Sunnyismyusername 9 месяцев назад +9

    Keep in mind that ganyu is more AOE focused and Lyney is single target. Both are incredible units!

    • @NFYT
      @NFYT 9 месяцев назад +7

      false, lyney skill and bursts make enough AoE dmg for any enemy in this game tbh, and both teams are single target focused so there's not really an issue

    • @Sunnyismyusername
      @Sunnyismyusername 9 месяцев назад

      @@NFYT 🤓

    • @NFYT
      @NFYT 9 месяцев назад +6

      @@Sunnyismyusername i won't deny it 🤓☝
      however what i said i mean it, i just tried him on this abyss cycle, mf wouldn't stop nuking the enemies, And y'know this abyss is pretty aoe focused.

    • @DossAttack-nm2df
      @DossAttack-nm2df 9 месяцев назад +2

      ​​@@Sunnyismyusernamelmao mad main ganyu

    • @redhaazzouz9261
      @redhaazzouz9261 9 месяцев назад

      ​@@NFYTlyney's burst and skill doing one instance of pyro dmg wtf .his burst must be canceled to maximize dmg 😂 he's strong yes but he's inferior to ganyu against mobs and in Aoe situations

  • @CryzeHunter
    @CryzeHunter 9 месяцев назад +7

    so ganyu got power crept the 2nd now xD funny to see the "ganyu is the best char ever" being punished so hard, first by ayaka, then tigh and now lyney xD

    • @gachagamer536
      @gachagamer536 9 месяцев назад +15

      It's been 3 years bro, no shit that happens to all dps. You make it out like people had any other choices back then

    • @Mc_Utka
      @Mc_Utka 9 месяцев назад +9

      There is no "best character" in GI.
      She was one of the best DPS characters since she released, and she still is.

    • @CryzeHunter
      @CryzeHunter 9 месяцев назад

      @@gachagamer536 literally cant tell the same about xiao or hutao :D thy only got characters that are on par with them (wanderer, yoi, lyney) also cant see a character beating childe in his specific niche, or kazuha. same with zhongli or raiden. oh and there is still no better pyro dps than xiangling out there :D

    • @lqfr8813
      @lqfr8813 9 месяцев назад

      @@CryzeHunter i only know both hutao and xiao needs zhongli to be able to do dmg without worrying

    • @CryzeHunter
      @CryzeHunter 9 месяцев назад

      @@lqfr8813 wth? xD xD u dont even play hutao with a healer/shielder - hutaos best team: hutao, yelan, kazuha, amber - if u cant do it with amber cuz u need soem uspport throw in dehya - another comparable good team: hutao, yelan, xq, xl - again no zhongli
      same goes for xiao, thoma or dehya are WAY better than zhongli.
      + have u ever played ganyu without a shiled? only very very skilled ppl play ganyu without, ppl with that lvl of skill will also play xiao without shield - im not one of them but even i can play hutao without zhongli .. so yeah no you are completely wrong :D

  • @AyushKumar-in6hc
    @AyushKumar-in6hc 9 месяцев назад +3

    Okkk soo I saw some comments aaaand I saw some people saying this was unfair and that Ganyu should have used her ult and how Lyney should have only used charged attack!
    I think that the character should be evaluated within the at most dmg that they can deal. The reason towards why Ganyu didn’t use her burst or skill was probably due to the fact that the melt dmg that she can deal would disappear and her charged attacks would deal less dmg overall.
    Lyney on the other hand is able to utilize his ult to his advantage due to the mono-pyro team that’s established here.
    Personally, I think that you can use any of the two and you will get really good results!! Ganyu can give you that juicy AoE charged attack while Lyney can give huge nuke dmg to the max!
    (God this went for too long sorry 😭)

    • @AyushKumar-in6hc
      @AyushKumar-in6hc 9 месяцев назад +1

      Ohhh forgot to add but for me, I personally will use Lyney because I would have rather his play style (more so then I can be more mobile :) )

    • @wantu7816
      @wantu7816 9 месяцев назад +2

      Doing everything they can to defend Ganyu. I gotta be honest, she’s really not that good. Very inefficient and slow compared to most options.

    • @AyushKumar-in6hc
      @AyushKumar-in6hc 9 месяцев назад

      @@wantu7816 Yessss someone said itttt ❤️❤️. I just think that her play style just isn’t for me!

    • @wantu7816
      @wantu7816 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@AyushKumar-in6hc it’s crazy how long they’ve thought to themselves that she’s still one of the best dps when she clearly has a hard time clearing difficult content compared to a lot of other options.

  • @loqme3370
    @loqme3370 9 месяцев назад

    ganyu mains I know you love her frostflake, but please don’t be a snowflake 💀

    • @blaze8308
      @blaze8308 9 месяцев назад

      Nah. We love her thicc thighs and design more.

  • @redhaazzouz9261
    @redhaazzouz9261 9 месяцев назад +1

    The fact that ganyu destroys him against mobs .even in single target in this video the amos passive not working at all .he should of used aqua and he'll end the boss in like 6 sec

    • @takik.2220
      @takik.2220 7 месяцев назад

      Lyney's skill and burst have aoe and are easily spammable the hell you get that from

    • @takitako679
      @takitako679 7 месяцев назад

      @@takik.2220burst and cd dependent 😂

  • @justiceknight3068
    @justiceknight3068 9 месяцев назад

    No Ganyu Burst

    • @DossAttack-nm2df
      @DossAttack-nm2df 9 месяцев назад +1

      Burst ganyu is useless is just support for team

    • @takik.2220
      @takik.2220 7 месяцев назад

      it's less then useless, it can be a detriment@@DossAttack-nm2df

  • @abigailpf9835
    @abigailpf9835 9 месяцев назад +2

    I have ganyu and lyney, and I directly fell in love with lyney's gameplay. I've tried liking ganyu's playstyle more but bcs its rather very simple, her gameplay gets boring extremely quick. I love that lyney has more mechanics than her and the fact that hes better with more pyro teammates. His gameplay is just more interactive and not braindead, its soooo much fun. Tighnari is like in between ganyu and lyney, hes def more enganging than ganyu and i like him too

  • @chimchim1516
    @chimchim1516 9 месяцев назад +29

    fragile ganyu simps in the comments has me cracking up😭

    • @traninhminh-eric9117
      @traninhminh-eric9117 9 месяцев назад +6

      Ikr 😭

    • @cryogray4857
      @cryogray4857 9 месяцев назад +5

      real

    • @dutch2
      @dutch2 9 месяцев назад +1

      What did you say about ganyu you little bh

    • @Dragos3
      @Dragos3 9 месяцев назад +1

      LMAOAOOA FRRR

    • @Candytime9
      @Candytime9 9 месяцев назад +7

      You should see the Hutao mains in other videos too so funny. I saw a video comparing Lyney, Hutao and Yoimiya all at f2p builds (though Lyney was not geared as well as the other 2 due to his set being new) and Yoimiya was the fastest in every test run (except maybe for one) and Lyney was very close and Hutao was first in one situation, but Hutao mains called Yoimiya and Lyney trash lol. While Yoimiya mains except Lyney because they have been trashed by Hutao (and Ganyu) mains since the beginning.

  • @moongaming6018
    @moongaming6018 9 месяцев назад +3

    Nah im staying with ganyu cuz she's good

  • @Hagibis088
    @Hagibis088 9 месяцев назад

    me with my level 1 Ganyu 😎😎😎

  • @viniciusoliveiralira9249
    @viniciusoliveiralira9249 8 месяцев назад +1

    Ganyu's damage is even greater if you use her ultimate

    • @takik.2220
      @takik.2220 7 месяцев назад

      you don't use her ult because it steals melts from her ca

    • @zer343
      @zer343 7 месяцев назад

      ​@@takik.2220just use burn melt lol

  • @alfimarisryun3048
    @alfimarisryun3048 9 месяцев назад +2

    Some people need to accept that their main won't stay at the top forever

    • @wantu7816
      @wantu7816 9 месяцев назад

      Ganyu was not on top for a very long time already. Playing and investing on her a lot, she seems pretty unreliable in abyss 12.

    • @betatrix2545
      @betatrix2545 9 месяцев назад

      she was dethroned long ago

  • @itachi7976
    @itachi7976 9 месяцев назад +5

    L GANYU

  • @Mothtreeshia
    @Mothtreeshia 9 месяцев назад +1

    my c1 tighnari killed it faster

    • @lanternarasu6061
      @lanternarasu6061 9 месяцев назад +1

      That's the only thing he can do, he's only good against bosses and feels like shit against mobs and Elite enemies

    • @Mothtreeshia
      @Mothtreeshia 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@lanternarasu6061 because he is clearly designed to be single target and quick swap?

    • @kidatsu2296
      @kidatsu2296 9 месяцев назад

      Good for mobs too, mainly if you have nahida

  • @kyori75
    @kyori75 9 месяцев назад

    Now do 1 with only Lyney charged attack, since Gunyou only uses charged attack and not the other 2 talent. keke

    • @betatrix2545
      @betatrix2545 9 месяцев назад +6

      You dont use ganyus burst in melt since it steals her melts

    • @za_crispy
      @za_crispy 9 месяцев назад

      Now actually use ganyu skill and burst along with charged attack. She will amazingly gain 5 more seconds. They have different playstyles for a reason lil bro

  • @yuki.35xxxv
    @yuki.35xxxv 9 месяцев назад

    People: _Debating between Lyney and Ganyu_
    My based ass: So anyways I started blasting with Yoimiya~

  • @dendenmushi9714
    @dendenmushi9714 9 месяцев назад +1

    Give Ganyu more EM and Lyney Mare and this should be correct yes.
    Also removing Zhongli for Shenhe/Kazuha respectively should also be correct.
    Yeah overall looks like Ganyu level, easier setup and less hard than melt but less AoE and versatility than Ganyu.
    His best team compete with Ganyu best melt team but Ganyu can be slotted in more things (Mono, Freeze, support) while this is as far as he goes.
    He has a better floor but imo Ganyu is the better unit for now.
    Rivaling Ganyu in one team niche team is a bit meh to me.

  • @NeuaGenshin
    @NeuaGenshin 9 месяцев назад

    i can’t seem to find any sane people here all of the comments are meta slaves comparing characters

  • @ratixgaming36
    @ratixgaming36 9 месяцев назад +7

    ganyu skill & charge atk..
    vs
    lyney burst, charge atk & skill..
    interesting compare..

    • @felisjueves
      @felisjueves 9 месяцев назад +25

      why would someone use ganyu burst in MELT ganyu

    • @traninhminh-eric9117
      @traninhminh-eric9117 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@felisjuevesIKR LIKE THAT WOULD STEAL THE MELT COME ON NOW..

    • @cryogray4857
      @cryogray4857 9 месяцев назад +1

      WHYYYY would you use ganyu burst???? thats the worst idea ever, it will steal the melt from ganyu's charged attack,

    • @nero2440
      @nero2440 9 месяцев назад

      How about Melt isn't that unfair to Lyney too?

    • @cryogray4857
      @cryogray4857 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@nero2440 it is not unfair to lyney, he specializes in raw damage meaning the pyro mark should not be removed from the enemy

  • @kalkomsksikru
    @kalkomsksikru 9 месяцев назад +1

    I'm happy this proved my thought that he is better even tho it's not a big difference but that's not melt so mono pyro is strong AF. Now I wanna see if he can dethrone Hutao 🤣

    • @MikaKim-qr4fm
      @MikaKim-qr4fm 6 месяцев назад

      Wouldn't say hes better than Ganyu. Its a term of playstyle, and honestly Hu tao still on top- not until Natlan comes out anyways

  • @flower5175
    @flower5175 9 месяцев назад

    its funny that xiangling still do all the damage

    • @alpastor-hb6kh
      @alpastor-hb6kh 9 месяцев назад

      thats the weakest xiangling im ngl

  • @Tv-do2dm
    @Tv-do2dm 9 месяцев назад

    At least she has AOE 🤓

    • @Twocat5side
      @Twocat5side 9 месяцев назад

      Lyney is not single target like Yoyamiya

    • @Tv-do2dm
      @Tv-do2dm 9 месяцев назад

      @@Twocat5side just his skill,​ burst,​but that's​ not his main Source of dmg

  • @hops-
    @hops- 9 месяцев назад +3

    Ganyu is better cuz AoE exists

    • @Candytime9
      @Candytime9 9 месяцев назад +3

      Lyney's skill and burst are AOE and his burst can be easily spammed and animation canceled to get a big AOE hit. No saying either is better, but he does have AOE, plus his malkin hat that is created from his charge shot could potential hit a different enemy from the one his charge shot hits.

    • @lanternarasu6061
      @lanternarasu6061 9 месяцев назад +9

      She's gonna be a 3 year old dps and you still don't wanna accept she got powercrept?

    • @hops-
      @hops- 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@lanternarasu6061 if ganyu had that con that makes her normal attck lvl +3 she can be even stronger than him. She is still better than that twink lyney

    • @hops-
      @hops- 9 месяцев назад

      @@Candytime9 talking about charge attck

    • @lanternarasu6061
      @lanternarasu6061 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@hops- ehh whatever keeps you to go to bed I guess

  • @azralia4265
    @azralia4265 9 месяцев назад +9

    Cocogoat vs femboy clown 🤡

    • @chimchim1516
      @chimchim1516 9 месяцев назад +33

      fuming cuz your waifu got beaten by femboy😬 yikes

    • @cryogray4857
      @cryogray4857 9 месяцев назад +6

      @@chimchim1516 so true

    • @chimchim1516
      @chimchim1516 9 месяцев назад

      @@cryogray4857 these fragileass betamale simps…

    • @keionmember
      @keionmember 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@chimchim1516 shes the goattttttttttttt my queen ganyu cannot be disrespected

    • @ralphdavid3545
      @ralphdavid3545 9 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@keionmember its the ganyu fanbase with no sheer amount of respect for others opinion so why the fuck should i respect theirs