🇺🇸🇬🇧🇪🇺: oh my God the tank is on fire 🇩🇪Oh mein Gott, der Panzer brennt 🇷🇺Боже мой, танк горит 🇯🇵ああ、神様、戦車は燃えています 🇨🇳哦，天哪，戰車著火了 🇨🇵oh mon dieu le char est en feu
Extra info about the chieftain: he was deployed to irak in 2000-2002 as a tanker then he fell in love in WOT and worked for WOT and also he served the irish calvary for three years.
@Michael Steinhoff In Sumerian, the word could mean "city, town, village, district". By the final phase of the Uruk period around 3100 BCE, the city may have had 40,000 residents, with 80,000-90,000 people living in its environs, making it the largest urban area in the world at the time.
Am I the only one that thinks that the azimuth indicator would be useful in this tank? Given that the gunner has a very narrow line of sight, the commander could call out the direction of a target and the gunner would know exactly what direction he needed to face the turret.
Nemesor Warpbiter He says that he thinks that the system was over-engineered and unnecessary. Trying to imagine myself as the gunner, being able to quickly glance at a dial to match my commanders orders would streamline the aiming process quite a bit, but having never been inside the panther I cant say.
It just seems un-necessary. It is very easy to tell which way the turret is facing by simply looking down at your feet. I never felt the need for one as a TC.
TheChieftainWoT Perhaps it has something to do with the thing you mentioned in part one of the Panther tour about morale. If the German crews see all these gadgets they might get the impression that the tank is more advanced that it was. I was actually quite impressed when you demonstrated it and I imagine the crews would feel similarly. It must have been unsettling to see how crude a t-34 was, though I don't know if Russian crews would have anything other than stories to compare it to. Though feel that if the Germans really wanted such a system they could have gotten a similar effect from just giving a compass to both the commander and gunner. (though I remain unsure as to the accuracy of a magnetic compass inside a thick ferrous steel box)
that might be true for modern tanks such as the m1 abrams because the gunner has a way better fov in his tank but given the the fact that the panther sight has a much more narrow fov it might be useful for him to be guided straight on the target (sorry for my bad english) a bit like the hunter killer sight on modern tanks (again sorry for my bad english) and yeah i might be wrong though ( i love tanks)
I know I‘m late but regarding the commanders right leg getting in the way...I‘ve read about the commander placing his feet on the gunners shoulders and applying pressure to direct him to a target that the gunner might not yet have spotted. So in this way he makes the most use of his great view and legs don’t get in the way. Specially as gunners view is lacking.
I still don't understand why they didn't just install a commander's turret override. (a turret rotation lever for the commander to use to get the turret on target for the gunner).
Probably my favourite moment of inside the hatch: “Oh my god the tank is on fire ... clunk donk bang! ........ something felt which should not have fallen”
1)The Azimuth system was part of the night fighting system that was intended to be used on Panther. It was intended to allow faster engagement of targets in a direction when you didnt have identifiable external reference points in the dark. It was discontinued on a small number of tanks (I want to say about 40) and then put back into production. The vehicles produced without the azimuth system had the system retrofitted later. This would seem to indicate the Germans considered it important. 2) You can check multiple film clips of Panthers in combat, Cologne duel being one example, the Commanders did indeed almost always fight with the cupola in open and protected.
Listening to Mr. Moran comment on the hatch operation and watching the closing procedure immediately reminded me of the video of a Panther brewing up in front of Köln cathedral in the last days of the war - even before hearing his comments on the difficulties of bailing out.
As a kid, I had the opportunity, to talk to a tanker named Sigfried from the Panzer Division Großdeutschland. I asked him, what tank was better, the Tiger or the Panther, he thought about it for a while and told me, the Panther. Because it had an extremely accurate gun with a flat trajectory. He also added, because the armor was better, being angled and more modern. I then asked him, what soviet tank was the most dangerous, and he replied, the IS-2, because it’s gun was basically a monster. He was a gunner in every German WW2 tank and rated tanks primarily according to their guns and secondly according to their armor.
That’s really cool. This tank along with an IS-2 are in a museum near my house. I was never a fan of the look of Soviet tanks but seeing that IS-2 in person totally changed my mind. IS-2 is now one of my favorites, both of them are really incredible in person
That was definitely the driver's vision port. That would be a helluva thing if the gunner can adjust his own sight and that of the driver's with the flip of a lever. 🤔
@@Schlachtbetrieb-Herbert-Bommel Until the entire luftwaffe gets annihilated and the brummbars don't even have enough fuel to move... also capturing towns is key to having a foothold, so I doubt the Germans would bomb some random Russian village that probably had food and supplies in it.
@@RainytheNB okay, time for calling 2 Divisons werewolfs of the SS, 1 regiment trained velociraptors and 2 companies elite battlebunnies. They need no fuel, only red army flesh.
I read that the idea for the azimuth ring was that the commander would sight a target and turn his cupola to face it at say 3 o'clock, then tell the gunner to rotate to three o'clock, and the gunner would turn the turret until his repeater read 3, and find himself on target. The same was on the Tiger.
although, +TheChieftainWoT's videos are way better (imo), than the challenger's ones. especially in the way the tanks are presented and duration of the videos.
Tanks are cool but the more I learn about them through the Chieftains Hatch the more i'm sure that i'd never want to be in one. Besides the discomfort of being cramped its his observations on escape routes and how difficult it would be for each crew member to get out of a burning tank or one thats disabled and still taking fire. Like to drive one around a field but thats probably it.
I also saw a drawing of an original Panther design, which looked too much like a T-34, even to the sloped rear deck. Great for vehicle recognition in the heat of battle :P
How German over engineering happens Factory production foreman:”Kommandant what should we put in the tank that might be useful?” Tank development leader:”Yes”
Excellent videos! Thank you very much for your contributions:) FYI I remember hearing in a documentary interview someone mentioning that the matching azimuth indicators for gunner and commander allowed the commander to give the gunner the precise direction of targets most rapidly.
I could have gone my entire life not knowing that the Panther's turret is slightly off center and now I won't be able to unsee it and I hate you for that.
Max Ace were u actually in it? I’ve heard the panther and the t-34 were the worst as far as getting the hell out. Surprisingly the Sherman could be done fairly quickly.
Chieftain you should do an Inside the tanks episode with the tanks you worked with/ along side with while you served. By the way thank you for your service.
This tank needed a unity sight for the gunner desperately. I can only imagine how hard it was to keep a moving tank in the gunsight at short distance. Any Allied TC worth his salt would have driven around for a side shot on this tank, so they would be moving. A major problem for an amazing machine. Such a small change would have made a big difference.
I just thought of something, wouldn't it be amazing if we had close to the camera technology of today during the time we had these types of tanks. It would be amazing to be able to see these vehicles in action in almost realistic quality
5.27 don't forget the gunner remains trapped, if the commander gets hit. It's very difficult to move a lifeless body, especially in such a narrow place, there is no light, smoke.
The azimuth on the cupola and next to the gunner was for targeting. the commander could give the gunner an azimuth for where the target is. It sort of compensates for the gunner's view restrictions.
About escaping when hit. Mark felton has a vid clip of a Panther being hit and three times by a perishing and all the crew escaping through the top hatch.
In some interviews of German Panzer crew they said sometimes if you put your head outside you will die! And if it is open the enemy would throw a hand grenade in so often they would keep it closed.
It also happened similarly during the Battle of the Bulge. A High-ranking Tank Commander of a Sturmgeschutz was killed by an American Sniper for buttoning up.
I’ve seen footage of Erzatz M10 Panthers, whose turret was absolutely torn to shreds by an anti tank shell. It’s a great tank, but that’s no guarantee of survival. I’d rather take my chances as an infantryman (to be honest, if I was in the German army at all, I’d desert to the western allies the first chance I got)
"Don't close the hatch." Well, that's how Sgt. Rock kept on taking out all those Kraut tanks; throwing grenades into those open hatches. In the comic book, it would usually show him opening the tank hatches and then tossing a grenade inside, but the tank crew not buttoning up would be such a convenience to the sarge.
People tend to think that German = good always in respect to tanks. However yes the Panther wasn't that good in turret ergonomics mostly because of the not so big turret ring and the great size of the KwK 42 gun.
have you ever seen the inside of for example a Hetzer or KV, yes the Panther turret was probably not the best, but there are tanks with far worse ergonomics ;-)
yes you are right, the KV turret had a decent size, but no cage for the Crewmen so they had to stand on the ground and move when the turret was rotating (not to mention all the instalations and shells on the ground which they had to step over and be aware of them)
Most tanks didn't have turret basket: M26, Centurions, ISs, Cromwell, Comet, Panzer III, etc. but you don't hear those tanks were bad because no turret basket though, this is only mentioned with T-34 and KV-1... However sometimes the loader had it's seat attached to the turret side so they could sit in there while the gun was moving and be a bit more confortable like in the T-34/85
Imagine how cramped it would be with the KwK 46 88mm inside the turret. Do you think it would even be possible to have a functional turret crew with the KwK 46 88mm gun in a combat situation without a muzzle brake?
I think the top hatch lock was ment for the case of soviet conscript troops overrunning your tank, climbing on the top and trying to get into it. If you believe the storys this was a pretty common tactic.
wasn't azimuth scale of commander a second-role tool for faster aiming on second target? he could always tell aimer, how many degrees to turn turret similar system has Leopard 2, where commander can look at different target and mark it, so gunner with one-click button turns turret to new location
Unfortunately, it doesn't work that way, as there is no applicable scale relative to the periscope. It still requires guesstimation. At which point, you may as well just yell "Go to 10 O' Clock" or some such.
Great video series so far...so much about the Panther I did not know. Was the side armor really as weak as I have read? I was under the impression that the frontal armor was the only real stopping power for incoming rounds and that the side armor was left relatively weak. Say, if you guys ever find a KV-2...do that one!
There's only one KV-2 left, in the Central Armed Forces museum in Moscow. I suspect it's not in great condition. Side armor is about 4cm, so pretty much anything should be able to punch through it.
great video! love the great explaining! But would it not be possible to wear a go pro cam so we can see what you see when you talk about it?? would give us a better idea what you were refering to. All The best. Retoft
That the Panther could punch through the front of a Churchill Mk III at 1700m and a T-34 at only 300m actually makes sense if you consider that Germans considered facing the tank angled at 30°. The front of a Churchill is flat and angled 30° won't make much difference while the front of a T-34 is already angled 60° so in theory the 75mm will have much more trouble against a T-34 front armor when angled 30° then against a Churchill Mk III. That is if you consider that T-34 used actually good tank steel but it's often said that T-34 used over hardened steel that made them a lot easier to to destroy by German 75mm cannons.
Kim Janek not all t34 had the same armor thickness. it varied to each factory zone where they came from. Remember Russian vehicles did not have complete uniform standards of manufacturing. talk to the old tank crews and factory workers about it. was a interesting conversions. Not only that but some parts would not fit to replace later models from different tank factories.
Kim Janek Churchill had a different amour design with better alloys and heated to higher quality standard than the t34. Churchill were know to survive shots from the panther and tiger 1 E . Remember the Churchill was also design to give the crew a better chance to survive than earlier British tanks that why British tank crews like that tank. It also was design to be upgunned and engine upgraded when it could.
7:51 Just trying to figure out what adjusting the power on gunners sight has to do with drivers viewing port opening/closing. Still overall very enjoyable.
I really liked your video on the inside of the German Panther. My question is in reference to the loader's position. Did the 75mm gun have elevation uncuopling setting or system to lowere the breach down for easy loading. Thanks
How bloody hard can it be to put a few guys with armoured combat experience in your fancy new tank's design team? Even I can imagine it's much better to be able to see your surroundings, than just sitting in your buttoned up mobile pillbox waiting to take a hit, while you'd have no idea where the shot came from. 20/20 hindsight I guess. I also find it so strange it took these brilliant designers so long to figure out the advantages of simply sloping your armour.
One of my favourite tanks I’ve always want to see inside what these bees look like it would be nice though if you could actually take one for a spin One day to show how they drive and shoot
Look at the outside view to determine the direction of hull is questionable. The azimuth ring may be very complicated in turns of structure but it is definitely more clear.
***** What do you mean its closed? They wielded the hatches? Cause i think that the chieftain can get permission to film inside it. Just look how many tanks have already filmed.
“okay you’re on the Russian front and a little bit of flame is good”.....lol
Sad to hear the owner passed away. Thanks to him for the restoration of that beautiful machine.
"Significant emotional event" and "oh my god, the tank is on fire" should be modded into voice packs.
KoeSeer that is hilarious
🇺🇸🇬🇧🇪🇺: oh my God the tank is on fire
🇩🇪Oh mein Gott, der Panzer brennt
🇷🇺Боже мой, танк горит
🇯🇵ああ、神様、戦車は燃えています
🇨🇳哦，天哪，戰車著火了
🇨🇵oh mon dieu le char est en feu
Sideways Vehicle wt sound mods
🇮🇹 "Oh Dio, il carro brucia!"
NA: AH SHI HERE WE GO AGAIN
Extra info about the chieftain: he was deployed to irak in 2000-2002 as a tanker then he fell in love in WOT and worked for WOT and also he served the irish calvary for three years.
Irak?
@Michael Steinhoff Iraq
@Michael Steinhoff In Sumerian, the word could mean "city, town, village, district".
By the final phase of the Uruk period around 3100 BCE, the city may have had 40,000 residents, with 80,000-90,000 people living in its environs, making it the largest urban area in the world at the time.
Am I the only one that thinks that the azimuth indicator would be useful in this tank? Given that the gunner has a very narrow line of sight, the commander could call out the direction of a target and the gunner would know exactly what direction he needed to face the turret.
As I understand that was the purpose of the system.
Nemesor Warpbiter He says that he thinks that the system was over-engineered and unnecessary. Trying to imagine myself as the gunner, being able to quickly glance at a dial to match my commanders orders would streamline the aiming process quite a bit, but having never been inside the panther I cant say.
It just seems un-necessary. It is very easy to tell which way the turret is facing by simply looking down at your feet. I never felt the need for one as a TC.
TheChieftainWoT Perhaps it has something to do with the thing you mentioned in part one of the Panther tour about morale. If the German crews see all these gadgets they might get the impression that the tank is more advanced that it was. I was actually quite impressed when you demonstrated it and I imagine the crews would feel similarly.
It must have been unsettling to see how crude a t-34 was, though I don't know if Russian crews would have anything other than stories to compare it to.
Though feel that if the Germans really wanted such a system they could have gotten a similar effect from just giving a compass to both the commander and gunner. (though I remain unsure as to the accuracy of a magnetic compass inside a thick ferrous steel box)
that might be true for modern tanks such as the m1 abrams because the gunner has a way better fov in his tank but given the the fact that the panther sight has a much more narrow fov it might be useful for him to be guided straight on the target (sorry for my bad english) a bit like the hunter killer sight on modern tanks (again sorry for my bad english) and yeah i might be wrong though ( i love tanks)
I know I‘m late but regarding the commanders right leg getting in the way...I‘ve read about the commander placing his feet on the gunners shoulders and applying pressure to direct him to a target that the gunner might not yet have spotted. So in this way he makes the most use of his great view and legs don’t get in the way.
Specially as gunners view is lacking.
I still don't understand why they didn't just install a commander's turret override. (a turret rotation lever for the commander to use to get the turret on target for the gunner).
Tank commanders in the field were probably more adept and quicker in opening the hatch, owing to adrenaline rushing and familiarity.
Probably my favourite moment of inside the hatch: “Oh my god the tank is on fire ... clunk donk bang! ........ something felt which should not have fallen”
OMG, destroying a Panther with his bare hands... :-D
1)The Azimuth system was part of the night fighting system that was intended to be used on Panther. It was intended to allow faster engagement of targets in a direction when you didnt have identifiable external reference points in the dark. It was discontinued on a small number of tanks (I want to say about 40) and then put back into production. The vehicles produced without the azimuth system had the system retrofitted later. This would seem to indicate the Germans considered it important.
2) You can check multiple film clips of Panthers in combat, Cologne duel being one example, the Commanders did indeed almost always fight with the cupola in open and protected.
I would just like to not have to wait so long for each episode. It is so hard to wait a while on such a great show.
Listening to Mr. Moran comment on the hatch operation and watching the closing procedure immediately reminded me of the video of a Panther brewing up in front of Köln cathedral in the last days of the war - even before hearing his comments on the difficulties of bailing out.
Seeing the inside of tanks like this gives you a whole new respect for tankers from ww2
Just sitting here, feasting on Pringles and watching The Chieftain's Hatch.
It's a good life.
lol, ill do the same now
saaaame
Pershing06 I wouldn't touch that sh*t if you paid me. Pringles, I mean.
@@joydiv0
Omg Hi neutral country since ww1
As a kid, I had the opportunity, to talk to a tanker named Sigfried from the Panzer Division Großdeutschland. I asked him, what tank was better, the Tiger or the Panther, he thought about it for a while and told me, the Panther. Because it had an extremely accurate gun with a flat trajectory. He also added, because the armor was better, being angled and more modern.
I then asked him, what soviet tank was the most dangerous, and he replied, the IS-2, because it’s gun was basically a monster. He was a gunner in every German WW2 tank and rated tanks primarily according to their guns and secondly according to their armor.
That’s really cool. This tank along with an IS-2 are in a museum near my house. I was never a fan of the look of Soviet tanks but seeing that IS-2 in person totally changed my mind. IS-2 is now one of my favorites, both of them are really incredible in person
7:50 That looks like the drivers direct vision port.
Maratus volans It is. I wonder if it was a joke or if someone had actually screwed up somewhere.
Yea I saw that. Just a bit confused about it
That was definitely the driver's vision port. That would be a helluva thing if the gunner can adjust his own sight and that of the driver's with the flip of a lever. 🤔
@@ewaeesmachines693 methinks the Chieftan was trying to test us.
German TC:"Never closes the hatch"
Russian Peasant: "Welcome to Molotov town!"
German TC: "We dont drive into Towns! Calling stukas, infantry and brummbaers"
@@Schlachtbetrieb-Herbert-Bommel Until the entire luftwaffe gets annihilated and the brummbars don't even have enough fuel to move... also capturing towns is key to having a foothold, so I doubt the Germans would bomb some random Russian village that probably had food and supplies in it.
@@RainytheNB okay, time for calling 2 Divisons werewolfs of the SS, 1 regiment trained velociraptors and 2 companies elite battlebunnies. They need no fuel, only red army flesh.
Jack Cordell r/wooosh. you must be fun at parties.
@@RainytheNB Solution ; Rudel with his Kanonenvogel . :-)
I read that the idea for the azimuth ring was that the commander would sight a target and turn his cupola to face it at say 3 o'clock, then tell the gunner to rotate to three o'clock, and the gunner would turn the turret until his repeater read 3, and find himself on target. The same was on the Tiger.
That's precisely how I would use the ring. I don't think this was a case of "overengineering."
1:03
i think it was for the Scherenfernrohr, a Periscope type binocular that could also be used as a rangefinder
Yes. The so called "scissorscope".
Great video! Will you also make an episode for Tiger II please?
So who's with me?
me meyby
Possibly. We'll see how we do.
+TheChieftainWoT you deserve it since tha Challenger took the Tiger 1 and the Jagdtiger
(Also the sturmtiger now that i think about it)
although, +TheChieftainWoT's videos are way better (imo), than the challenger's ones. especially in the way the tanks are presented and duration of the videos.
With the classic Henschel turret, not the ugly (to my mind)and inferior limited production Porsche one
Just a tip for future videos - music is too loud it's hard to understand the guy.
I don't agree..I think it's perfectly ajusted
This one wasn't bad, some are horrible
I'm watching with a HTPC and a 2.0 home stereo set, and it seems fine for me.
No
Aka make captions
Tanks are cool but the more I learn about them through the Chieftains Hatch the more i'm sure that i'd never want to be in one. Besides the discomfort of being cramped its his observations on escape routes and how difficult it would be for each crew member to get out of a burning tank or one thats disabled and still taking fire.
Like to drive one around a field but thats probably it.
The Chieftain has several times made the point that survival stats were much better for American tankers than infantrymen.
New found respect for the gravedigger crew that had to recover remains of crew members and clean up the blood.
You should put a go pro on your head, Would be really nice to see everything from the position of each crewman
The place where this was filmed looks amazing. All the tanks seem to be in superb condition.
They look they've been completely overhauled. Not particularly great from a historical standpoint.
I also saw a drawing of an original Panther design, which looked too much like a T-34, even to the sloped rear deck. Great for vehicle recognition in the heat of battle :P
VK.30.01D, or 02
How German over engineering happens
Factory production foreman:”Kommandant what should we put in the tank that might be useful?”
Tank development leader:”Yes”
No, he said: "Put in all the Stuff! :D"
@@heiniknallkopp9688 all ZEE stuf, all ZEE STUF
@@heiniknallkopp9688 I think that you should refrain from trying to "fix" good jokes.
@@bankerduck4925 And you should refrain from replying to one year old comments.
0:58 "A big long thin thing"
You and your technical mumbo-jumbo.
Excellent videos! Thank you very much for your contributions:) FYI I remember hearing in a documentary interview someone mentioning that the matching azimuth indicators for gunner and commander allowed the commander to give the gunner the precise direction of targets most rapidly.
I could have gone my entire life not knowing that the Panther's turret is slightly off center and now I won't be able to unsee it and I hate you for that.
Sorry.
That open protected hatch is so simple yet genius
Love the Chieftan but I swear he forgets he’s like 6’6 when evaluating things sometimes
MrTDB123 I’ve seen a panther and even I think it’s cramped, I’m 5’3
Max Ace were u actually in it? I’ve heard the panther and the t-34 were the worst as far as getting the hell out. Surprisingly the Sherman could be done fairly quickly.
MrTDB123 I’ve heard a lot of good about the Sherman’s crew friendliness, but the issue with the panther turret is side to side space
MrTDB123 I just get really annoyed by wheraboos
Max Ace no I totally understand. Thx for the comment.
Chieftain you should do an Inside the tanks episode with the tanks you worked with/ along side with while you served. By the way thank you for your service.
KÖNIGSTIGER is what we are waiting for now , I know this productions require a lot of time and effort but PLEASE !
One of my top 3 favorite tanks in the game overall, glad to see you go through it!
Yes, at least i get annoyed by offset guns when making panzer models
So that was the commanders and gunners positions. Still got loader and driver to go - there will be a part 3? Right? Please?
Yes, and shouldn't be as long a wait.
+TheChieftainWoT Will you guys do a king tiger episode?
^ This
+Schutzstafell what you mean?
TheChieftainWoT
Great, I can't wait :)
Woooo we finally get the next part! Love this series so much.
Crew Evac...always a fun group activity.
"This tanks a while"
WHAT TALL MAN?! PANTHER WAS THE BEST TANK OF WW2 REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
(Some wehraboo)
Good stuff! I've wanted to see a tour of the Panther for a very long time
This tank needed a unity sight for the gunner desperately. I can only imagine how hard it was to keep a moving tank in the gunsight at short distance. Any Allied TC worth his salt would have driven around for a side shot on this tank, so they would be moving. A major problem for an amazing machine. Such a small change would have made a big difference.
My god, we have to wait for, ANOTHER ONE?
I know I can't take it I have an obsession with this tank.
Yes! Muahahahahahaha!!!!
TheChieftainWoT Hurry up senpai please.
I just thought of something, wouldn't it be amazing if we had close to the camera technology of today during the time we had these types of tanks. It would be amazing to be able to see these vehicles in action in almost realistic quality
5.27 don't forget the gunner remains trapped, if the commander gets hit. It's very difficult to move a lifeless body, especially in such a narrow place, there is no light, smoke.
you should do more "oh bugger my tank is on fire test" like on future vehicles its pretty entertaining and informative at the same time
As long as my commander wasn't dead,and had got out,I was quick to exit the Chieftain gunner seat.Otherwise I,d have to burrow through him or be toast
"Oh my god, the tank is on fire!"
\*Breaks Hatch\*
Significant emotional events “ oh booger the tanks on fire”
3:15 wonderful sound:)
Excellent video & thank you for posting it!
Love these films
The azimuth on the cupola and next to the gunner was for targeting. the commander could give the gunner an azimuth for where the target is. It sort of compensates for the gunner's view restrictions.
About escaping when hit.
Mark felton has a vid clip of a Panther being hit and three times by a perishing and all the crew escaping through the top hatch.
Correct, I saw that vid also☺
It's three. Two hits probably the engine compartments, second hit against the ammo Racks.
Chieftain I knew you were in the army you have said that before but a tank commander I thank you for your service I am a American but allies anyway
He served in the US army. Emigrated from Ireland.
excellently done.
When a tank cooks off, most times your not getting out no matter how fast you can get out!
Man, it only takes hopping inside every WWII tank in the world to realize how good M4 Shermans' design actually were, right Chieftain?
Love these video's, only remark: the repeating music is killing. I can't watch more than 2-3 video's in a row :(
I always chuckle when I hear “service the target” hahaha
Closed captions understood the chieftain as saying "Turd" instead of turret XD
I have a question :why does the the armored cover at the drivers direct vision port move if you only change the magnification at the gunners sight?
Editing mistake (I k this comment is 3 y/o lol)
In some interviews of German Panzer crew they said sometimes if you put your head outside you will die! And if it is open the enemy would throw a hand grenade in so often they would keep it closed.
It also happened similarly during the Battle of the Bulge. A High-ranking Tank Commander of a Sturmgeschutz was killed by an American Sniper for buttoning up.
I’ve seen footage of Erzatz M10 Panthers, whose turret was absolutely torn to shreds by an anti tank shell. It’s a great tank, but that’s no guarantee of survival. I’d rather take my chances as an infantryman (to be honest, if I was in the German army at all, I’d desert to the western allies the first chance I got)
"Don't close the hatch." Well, that's how Sgt. Rock kept on taking out all those Kraut tanks; throwing grenades into those open hatches. In the comic book, it would usually show him opening the tank hatches and then tossing a grenade inside, but the tank crew not buttoning up would be such a convenience to the sarge.
Amazing work as usual. I had no idea Panthers were so bad on the ergonomics side!
People tend to think that German = good always in respect to tanks. However yes the Panther wasn't that good in turret ergonomics mostly because of the not so big turret ring and the great size of the KwK 42 gun.
have you ever seen the inside of for example a Hetzer or KV, yes the Panther turret was probably not the best, but there are tanks with far worse ergonomics ;-)
There are bad things, and then there are awful ones xD I wouldn't say KV-1 was bad though, bigger turret and same gun as T-34.
yes you are right, the KV turret had a decent size, but no cage for the Crewmen so they had to stand on the ground and move when the turret was rotating (not to mention all the instalations and shells on the ground which they had to step over and be aware of them)
Most tanks didn't have turret basket: M26, Centurions, ISs, Cromwell, Comet, Panzer III, etc. but you don't hear those tanks were bad because no turret basket though, this is only mentioned with T-34 and KV-1... However sometimes the loader had it's seat attached to the turret side so they could sit in there while the gun was moving and be a bit more confortable like in the T-34/85
Obviously, crew ergonomics was not considered by the designers, or maintenance....
Locking completely the commander's cupola sounded suicidal if the Panther tank was on fire!!
Imagine how cramped it would be with the KwK 46 88mm inside the turret. Do you think it would even be possible to have a functional turret crew with the KwK 46 88mm gun in a combat situation without a muzzle brake?
Good god, that hatch...I wonder if even battle hardened vets could make it open any quicker? Terrifying just watching it open slowly.
4:17 S I G N I F I C A N T E M O T I O N A L E V E N T
I'd love to have this guy's job
I think the top hatch lock was ment for the case of soviet conscript troops overrunning your tank, climbing on the top and trying to get into it. If you believe the storys this was a pretty common tactic.
Great videos and lots more please.
2:40 i am sure you would find it a hell lot harder to tell which side the turret and hull is facing in all the smoke and explosion during battle
wasn't azimuth scale of commander a second-role tool for faster aiming on second target? he could always tell aimer, how many degrees to turn turret
similar system has Leopard 2, where commander can look at different target and mark it, so gunner with one-click button turns turret to new location
Unfortunately, it doesn't work that way, as there is no applicable scale relative to the periscope. It still requires guesstimation. At which point, you may as well just yell "Go to 10 O' Clock" or some such.
Great video series so far...so much about the Panther I did not know. Was the side armor really as weak as I have read? I was under the impression that the frontal armor was the only real stopping power for incoming rounds and that the side armor was left relatively weak.
Say, if you guys ever find a KV-2...do that one!
There's only one KV-2 left, in the Central Armed Forces museum in Moscow. I suspect it's not in great condition. Side armor is about 4cm, so pretty much anything should be able to punch through it.
Is it just me, or does the Chieftain never sound more Irish than when he says 'Good Lord' in the outtake at the end?
great video! love the great explaining! But would it not be possible to wear a go pro cam so we can see what you see when you talk about it?? would give us a better idea what you were refering to.
All The best.
Retoft
"High magnification is purely for servicing the target..." Can the target refuse the service?
As far as I know the main gun is triggered also by a foot pedal next to the pedal which triggers the MG.
holy cral, the commander can only escape soo slow when the tank is on fire he woukd die if his hands r not fast enough
That the Panther could punch through the front of a Churchill Mk III at 1700m and a T-34 at only 300m actually makes sense if you consider that Germans considered facing the tank angled at 30°. The front of a Churchill is flat and angled 30° won't make much difference while the front of a T-34 is already angled 60° so in theory the 75mm will have much more trouble against a T-34 front armor when angled 30° then against a Churchill Mk III. That is if you consider that T-34 used actually good tank steel but it's often said that T-34 used over hardened steel that made them a lot easier to to destroy by German 75mm cannons.
Kim Janek not all t34 had the same armor thickness. it varied to each factory zone where they came from. Remember Russian vehicles did not have complete uniform standards of manufacturing. talk to the old tank crews and factory workers about it. was a interesting conversions.
Not only that but some parts would not fit to replace later models from different tank factories.
Kim Janek Churchill had a different amour design with better alloys and heated to higher quality standard than the t34. Churchill were know to survive shots from the panther and tiger 1 E . Remember the Churchill was also design to give the crew a better chance to survive than earlier British tanks that why British tank crews like that tank. It also was design to be upgunned and engine upgraded when it could.
7:51 Just trying to figure out what adjusting the power on gunners sight has to do with drivers viewing port opening/closing. Still overall very enjoyable.
Post filming editing failure I suspect. I noticed that too.
I really liked your video on the inside of the German Panther. My question is in reference to the loader's position. Did the 75mm gun have elevation uncuopling setting or system to lowere the breach down for easy loading. Thanks
Loader is well motivated to get the hatch open. 😂
the auto captions are so wrong it is hilarious 😂
How bloody hard can it be to put a few guys with armoured combat experience in your fancy new tank's design team? Even I can imagine it's much better to be able to see your surroundings, than just sitting in your buttoned up mobile pillbox waiting to take a hit, while you'd have no idea where the shot came from.
20/20 hindsight I guess. I also find it so strange it took these brilliant designers so long to figure out the advantages of simply sloping your armour.
One of my favourite tanks I’ve always want to see inside what these bees look like it would be nice though if you could actually take one for a spin One day to show how they drive and shoot
Closing the hatch is probably only done for traveling under water.
Can you provide more info about neutral steering on IS-4?
The closed captioning is hilarious
Now, After seeing the cupola hatch i understand why german is prior to quality than quantity
砲弾を入れる所の下側にぐるっと回っているパイプはなんなんでしょうね？
4:55 with automatic subtitles on... You're welcome :)
3:45 Everybody is Master Race until his closed-hatch Panther is on fire.
Everyone is a Communist in a Gulag .
Everyone is a Communist in a Gulag .
Look at the outside view to determine the direction of hull is questionable. The azimuth ring may be very complicated in turns of structure but it is definitely more clear.
Will you make a video inside the T29? I would like to see this beast.
can't...the thing is rusted shut and I personally wouldn't want to go inside of it because of the wildlife that may or may not call it home...
***** what about the T95 then?
+Ivan GR they did refurbish the interior somewhat but it's closed unfortunately...
***** What do you mean its closed? They wielded the hatches? Cause i think that the chieftain can get permission to film inside it. Just look how many tanks have already filmed.
+Ivan GR it's currently undergoing extreme restoration...so essentially it's "closed"...but a video series covering this would be nice...
Yeah, if you’re locked down in a Panther hit by a bazooka or 90mm shell, then that’s it, you’re toast. Literal human toast.
When is he going to do an episode on the Tiger 1 and Tiger?
8:46 i have the same boots :D
Do the periscopes in copula provide 360degree view for commander? any blind area?