How to recycle your clay (easy)
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- Опубликовано: 17 июн 2020
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hey potters. in this episode we talk about how I, personally, recycle my clay. I don't have anything super fancy. I basically just stick it in a bucket. mix it, and let it dry on a surface.
here is a video I found with Tom Kemp making his own plaster wedging table if you need it.
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Mixing different cones is bad for another reason: their eutectic point.
As my chemical-engineer husband told me: when you mix any two things together, the melting point of that mix isn't just the halfway point between the melting points of the 2 separate things. The mixture's melting point depends on the proportions of the two things you've mixed together.
Which makes sense: if you've mixed in a smidgen of phebotnium into your slopite, the melting point of the mix is basically the melting point of slopite. And vice versa: phebotnium with a teeny bit of slopite mixed in has a melting point almost equal to the melting point of phebotnium.
Now you might think that the melting point of the mix of this hypothetical slopite with the hypothetical phebotnium is just a straight line between the melting points of slopite and phebotnium, but that's not usually the case. Instead of a straight line it could be a curve.
And that curve could actually dip down _below_ both melting points! Sometimes, quite a bit below. The point on that curve with the lowest melting temperature is the *eutectic point*.
So 3/4 slopite with 1/4 phebotnium could have a melting point _below_ the melting point of slopite. Let's say 95% of the melting temperature of slopite. And it keeps decreasing until you reach 5/9 slopite with 4/9 phebotnium - the eutectic point - with a melting point below half the melting point of either slopite or phebotnium!
What's more: two substances with the same melting temperature could have a eutectic point, i.e. a lower melting temperature when mixed.
Now my example is intentionally dramatic. But the overall point is: if you mix cone-10 stoneware with cone-6 stoneware, you don't get a cone-8 clay, but could end up with a _cone-4½ clay_.
Really helpful. So many mysteries revealed!
This is very helpfull. We just started pottery and are just on our first 25 pounds of clay. We havent even made a real pot yet. I figure we are gonna go thru a lot during the learning process. This helps so much. Thanks!!!
Thank you so much for your videos.. Learning a ton as I dive back into pottery. It's been over a decade.
Didn't realize how much I've been missing you and your videos. Thanks for sharing and making it fun.
Thank you, so informative. I didn't know about the plaster thing.
Awesome video, thank you so much! Your videos have really been helping me grow an learn :)
Thank you Dante. I learn so much from you :)
Ya'll really gonna make me act up, Dante. Do something I'm gonna regret. I might just start eating clay.
Great, will try the wisk!
When I old school recycle clay, I use a piece of fine weave cloth to pour the clay on when drying. It makes flipping easy. A hand injury prevents wedging clay properly so invested in a peter pugger 2 years ago and let it do the work. No longer buy bagged clay but mix my own. Recycled clay and water go directly into the pug mill. The pugmill has changed how I throw because I know I can make more clay and not defined by having to buy another bag of ready mix.
Thank you for your practical tip I use a sheet of concrete or Masonite when I recycle my clay.
Enjoy :)
I work out of a maker space in Nevada County. I do a similar process. I recently had surgery on my right hand because of advanced OA. I use plaster as well, but I skip the whisking step. All clay trimmings get tossed into buckets and submerged in water. It sits until it breaks down, usually a full 5 gallon bucket. The clay settles so excess water can be just poured out. Onto the plaster (just slop with stiff spots) cover with plastic and let it sit over night. Come back the next day and start by Slap Wedging it. I take about 8 pounds or so and start by cutting it in half and slapping both sides down on the plaster, one over the other, on my wedging table. Repeating this process to get a homogenous blend, then spiral wedge it and voila, over to the wheel I go with just about 20 pounds of after just a few minutes of wedging. 😊
I needed this video! I have about 10 or more bags of clay to do!
Thanks for the info on how you do this
Thank you for sharing less waist is always better Keep them videos coming
Thanks for a helpful video 👍🏽
For our high school studio, we had built a frame on an old wooden table and then made a table-sized plaster mold on it. Rather than using a bucket, we had garbage cans for each clay type and we got a large wooden pole with a nob at the end which is used for churning butter. Same process as yours just on a much larger scale. We also had the luxury of a pugmill to make it nicer to use. Students waste a lot of clay but we are yet to have a piece explode from the plaster.
Oh yeah, my school did that too. It's pretty much a larger version of what I do here.
I kind of wish I had a table as well but I just don't have the space
Love your videos - learning so much. Thank you!!! I’m planning to set up a studio in a garage at my new house and am wondering about the best way to set up a sink. Any potter tips? (Should I just buy a trap?)
I, for one, did go out and buy a bunch of clay before lockdown, lol. I still recycle my clay though, and I agree about the plaster explosion conspiracy... I have a pretty janky plaster wedging board I made and need to improve upon, so I know I have gotten bits of plaster in my clay... never had a problem with my stuff exploding though
I have plaster baby head molds. That’s how I recycle mine! Lol the kids sometimes open them and get worried about my mental health. One of the molds is a crying baby.....
Good idea, and a big mould would be even better. I have also successfully used the flat underside of a large bowl mould, just like a plaster batt and almost as fast.
Thank you!!
What's the youngest can be to do this boy is almost 6. Only child, love that this is physical and uses both hands. Takes a lot of focus to make the pottery well.
donte i wanted to quickly mention you could also just use the slip for slipcasting in a plaster mold or color it to make those cool slip techniques everyone sees on instagram with the different colored layers that you carve into, but great video donte!
I always love your videos because I can actually DO these things where usually I look at someone's video and go okay but how can *I* realistically implement this? Thanks :) you've taught me to fire a kiln, lots of throwing techniques, and now reclaiming :)
Thanks Dante! I made myself a nice big plaster bat for recycling clay last weekend - didn’t realise how heavy it would be 😂😂😂 it’s going to have to stay where it is as I can’t lift it! 😂😂😂😂
Love the new hairstyle
Great video! Do you completely cover your slip bucket with a lid when you aren't using it? If I don't work on pottery for a few days/weeks, I'm concerned it may get moldy.
The old video is great too!
I think, when you recicle your clay, you don't just save money, but also save natural resources, because some clay deposits actually can end... of course, usually it takes time, and the big industrieas are the main responsibles for that, but, you know, we can do our part not contributing for that.
Besides, I ask myself, what do people do with the clay, when they don't reclicle it, like, for real. I don't know if in the EUA is different, but here in Brasil, generally the only option is to throw it in the garden...
And about mixing clays, I get the impression that, when I do that, the clay that results is actually better, cause has the qualitys of multiple clays ... but then, I let it sit for a while in the bucket, before drying it, so the particles of them can integrate better (but maybe it's just a thing of my head)
Ah, thanks for the whisk tip! I used to do it with by hands and then sieve (lots of patient required) or ask for a friend's drill
You are so funny! I’m so new at this art. Please tell me how you store your new bags of clay. Will the clay dry out too much if it isn’t in a really tight container?
I really enjoy watching your videos..and that ending..lmao..
Would love to see a video on how to make a wet box :)
Tim See has an excellent video about damp boxes.
hey thanks for the video! is there a step where you use a sieve? my pail of slip has lots of lumps
Pleased to confirm I’m doing it right 👍👍 thank you. Just one question please... before throwing with the clay do you need to leave it for a time bagged up. Like say a week?
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completely unrelated but you just completely made my prom day! i admire you as a potter and hope my comment made you smile as your videos do for me.😊
I do it but big plaster
I only occasionally work with clay, but still recycle, so I put my scraps into a reused starbucks cup with top. Works great, but do NOT leave it out on the counter for roomies to find. Apperantly it looks a bit too much like chai with milk XD
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Catch the dragon.
Great video! Thanks for an update!
awesome video! I just recycled my first major batch of clay last weekend and hoping to test it out this weekend. btw, what clay are you using in this video? I'm trying to test more clays to throw with apart from white stoneware and terracotta. cheers!
This one is mostly redstone
thank you, dante for all your informative and easy to follow demos! i have a bunch of clay i’d love to recycle and you’ve given me the confidence and motivation to get going.
one question, though ... i have a couple extra kiln shelves just rolling around in my studio - they’re about 20” octagons. can i use them in place of a plaster slab? asking bc if so, that’ll save me time and money in making one . ALSO ... my studio floor is bare concrete. so what if i designated a space of the floor (eg a back corner) for drying my mushy clay? tia for your help!
Yes to both questions...
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Do you put the lid on the Slip when you’re done throwing for the day or do you just leave it open?
I always leave it open
Wait, there are potters that don’t do this?! Why??? Thanks for the reminder that I actually need to pick up a couple extra buckets and whisks next time I am in said stores to get them... it may be a while, but I have a list, lol. Great video! Thank you!
Yes, I wonder about this too. Why throw away clay just because it has more water in it than it used to?
@@____Ann____ exactly! Anyone in OKC area that does that is free to just give me thier scraps... ♡♡♡ Lol.
@@JennaDanelle I also keep all the throwing water. After a few days I can syphon it off.
It is maybe overkill but I do let all the little bits dry out first, before adding them to the throwing water. A bit easier to wedge.
More to the point: _What the heck_ do they do with all of their scraps, trimmings, and slip?!?
I know RIGHHT?!? It blows my mind people don’t do it
Don't ever let up on your sfx game
Hi! I am wanting to use the drill set up. Can you describe the drill attachment so I can find one that doesn't leave a lot of air bubbles?
Why does this make me want to go and melt some chocolate!
I was always taught that you need to add in raw materials to mix clay. I primarily use B-mix and I k ow there is a b-mix raw material that u can buy to mix it in. Would just pouring a cup or so I to the slip bucket work? I was just taught that you need those things or the clay would explode in the kiln.
Would it work to use a terracotta tray (the kind you put under potted plants) covered in a canvas to dry the clay?
do you mix multiple clays in one slip or have a slip bucket for each different clay body?
In ceramic class i was thought to always make every piece of clay dry entirely first before putting it in water and recycling it.. It sure makes the proces longer.. Any thoughts?
how long can the clay be in slip form in the bucket for?
That plaster slab looks pretty small. I'd think a larger one would be much more useful. A 50 lb bag of plaster would be more than enough for a 24"x24"x2" slab.
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I'm new to pottery. I started using a colander(For ventilating the underside) lined with an old bed sheet, putting the slip on top of the lining, and then putting another bed sheet on top of the slip. Seemed to work pretty well and didn't need to flip the clay. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Assassin Creed cup!!!
I just inherited some unlabeled pottery clay. How do I tell what type of clay I have? And what its cone #?
I've been negligent in getting the recycling done. I have a 5 gallon bucket right now that's full. I ran out of my favorite clay recently because my last two meetings in the city where the clay store is have been canceled (thanks coronavirus...) normally I just buy a couple of boxes when I make the four hour trip.
Another good mixer other than a whisk is a cheap toilet bowl scrubber. The clay doesn’t stick to it!
what if your old clay contains leaves, twigs and other stuff that need to be removed?
Can you link that extension for the power drill?
I think you can find those extensions at any home improvement store.
I was trying to do this - but the slip got a terrible moldy smell.... I added vinegar and let the water dry up. Will try again - bucket is just full of dry clay now...
D, correct me if I’m wrong here: besides savings and avoiding being wasteful slobs, one more reason to reuse your clay is added plasticity. Is that true? Some very stubborn clays (not the de-aired pristine kind) have a chance to rot further in the bucket and rot (aka microorganisms that swim gloriously in the muck) combined with consistent wedging foreplay and lovin’, lends your old friend a suppleness and a personality that you simply can’t get out of a uniform block of, say, Laguna clay in a box. I like to think it’s true. Is it?
I have never experience that but I wouldn't be surprised
can you do a video on slip casting?
Nooooo
@@EarthNationCeramics why thoooooo!? im just curious about it and youre one of the few who does videos actively. or can you do a q&a and discuss your opinions and what it even is? i throw, but i dont understand slip casting and i just want to understand..... lol
Do you need special plaster? I thought your friend said so in another video. Thanks!
ruclips.net/video/ZciM2V6dudQ/видео.html
Yes- it's called Pottery plaster, this video should answer most questions you have
If the clay is completely dried can you still break it up and add it to your slip bucket to be recycled?
Yes. It's infact a little better that way
Can we use bisque peices or terracotta bowls for drying the slip?
No. They have to be green wear.
If you use bisque pieces that have already been through the killing one time they will not break down in the bucket for slip
Earth Nation Ceramics no no... I meant.. if I wanted to dry my slip are terracotta bowls Porus enough to absorb the moisture?
@@niharikasingh555 They will work to an extent, but (a) even unglazed fired clay is not as absorbent as plaster, (b) a flat surface is much easier, and (c) more importantly, your bowls are likely to be less than 1cm thick, wheras a plaster batt can be up to 10cm thick and much more effective.
Wait so after having your clay in the water for a day or two you whisk it? Before putting it on the plaster?
Yup
@@EarthNationCeramics thanks ❤️
does anyone use a turkey baster
I'm very lazy, as I use clay and remove some, I just wet them and mash them and put them in a zip lock bag so it doesn't dry xd
But today I have a clay thing I had to do for art class that I didn't like and broke it. Then I was hit with the amount of clay I had just wasted and I need it for mini figures I'm making ahhhahaha
Can I use recycled clay for slip casting?? No need to add another agent?
You can but it's suggested that you filter and sieve it before hand.
@@EarthNationCeramics will do! Thank you. I’ve learned so much from your channel : )
I bought plaster of Paris at Lowe’s and made myself a pad for my clay. I’ve let it dry for several weeks. When I run my fingers over it I find plaster dust on my fingers! Will that be a problem when I go to wedge my clay?
Possible that you used too much water in your plaster?
Ann I used exactly what was stated on the package. Should I have reduced the water? Can it be fixed? I have it outside right now. Our humidity averages about 40 percent
@@cathymarvin206 if you used what was on the package I suppose the ratio is correct. I don't know what would cause the flaking off.
Hello, I have been trying to do pottery for years... but I have never made a single pot for one reason... I just cannot seem to get the clay prepared correctly. I take clay powder and add some water to be able to make a workable ball of clay, but the whole thing just turns to stodge/slop and then it takes days/weeks to dry out again, it is so demoralising because all I ever seem to do is fight with the clay consistency rather than actually do what a potter is meant to do... make pots. I am getting to the point where I feel I am just not meant to do pottery, can anyone recommend something... anything please?
I would heavily suggest not using powdered clay and just buying regular bags of clay
Sous-titres en français svp merci 🙏
Big fan of all your videos Donte , but , Home Depot owner is a huge tRuMf supporter. Just saying ✌
Yes, I realized that after I made the video as this video is kind of a back stock. I'm most likely going to start representing Lowe's now in my videos
I found that out recently and refuse to go to Home Depot. They give millions $$$ to the tRump campaign. 😫 ugh!
That's okay with the amount of clay I had. I had a family crisis instead of using my studio. All worked out.
Dont tell me you dont have a brother named vergil?
Pottery plaster, it’s a bunch harder. I just made regular plaster bricks and they dusted and chipped up. Ugh
Don’t believe it’s clay in the bucket. I think it is melted chocolate! 😂
Glad you're recycling there Harry Potter. But why are you purchasing clay and hand mixing?😊
I make about 500 lbs. of clay in 5, 10, 25 and 50 lb. blocks in just a couple of days.
There's about a 97% chance that you have good clay right in your back yard.
I find that a post hole digger comes in very, very handy to mix your clay very quickly.
You can also use an electric/hand cranked meat grinder that works as a pug mill.
Porcalinda😏😂
This person an o.g, they remember the old days
Hahaha yes!!!!
You're kinda delicately avoiding the problem of stinky clay water and stinky recycled clay. The clay is quite nice to work with, but, oh boy does it ever make the eyes water. It's a rotten egg, sulphur smell.
Ooooooh my god get to the POINT
Yes, so much repetition!