If momoshiki had time stopping ability then sauske and Naruto or anyone for that matter wouldn’t have lasted a minute. It is way too powerful and even more than isshiki’s dojututsu abilities.
@@xxxswift23 depends just because he has an ability doesn’t mean he can just readily use it whenever there may be conditions that have to be met or something that’s more so a last resort like an izanagi type move he also may not be able to do much while stopping time there’s a bunch of ways to dial it back so it’s not so crazily broken we also haven’t seen all of Isshiki’s abilities so Kawaki could potentially already have a way around it
@@xxxswift23 they can probably just move in Time stop, I mean we literally see sasuke could see through momoshiki's time stop and even move his head slightly in the anime, naruto using his six paths powers should be able to do the same. Even after Sasuke lost the rinnegan he could still sense time stop because of the left over chakra in his eye which proves six paths chakra can at least sense it if not grant movement in it.
I’m glad you explained this. It makes a lot more sense now how it could’ve happened, although it is very difficult to explain, but you provided multiple plausible answers that could make it make more sense in the future (if everything gets explained later). Also, I’ve been following your channel for a long time and it brings joy to my heart to see you’re already at 6K! Keep up the awesome work, man
Yeah it’s pretty hard to explain especially when 2 of the options are just that it’s inconsistent or a manga retcon 😂 but I tried lol, and thank you!!!! I’ve seen you commenting for a while and I appreciate the support 😁
I have a better one, momoshiki is one step closer to becoming like Shibai, while Isshiki was one step closer to becoming like momoshiki, but ripped off Shibai's darmawill and implanted it in his eye socket to make up for the power gap. For starters, momoshiki was calling himself a "god" while Isshiki is just Isshiki. Then we can see momoshiki using Shinjustu by cutting down the chakra tree with just a roar, while Isshiki's roar did nothing. I think the reason why is because Momoshiki consumed Kinshiki, and with it all the chakra fruit he has consumed. Isshiki was mostly using taijust against naruto and sasuke, and with the darmawill, it gave him an edge while momoshiki was basically playing with them, and was basically about to finish the kages with sasuke, the dude was OP, but if it wasn't for boruto with his jougan giving him an edge against momoshiki he would have finished everyone. And when you look at Urashiki, he refers to momo as momoshiki senpai (respect) and when momoshiki was referring to Isshiki, he just said Isshiki, just like with kinshiki. Now you may say but Austin the tableau in the Juubi dimension, this tableau was made by jigen and when you look to the right, people are speculating this is shibai's representation and all know about Shibai, but still Isshiki's symbol was above Shibai's
If you have ever read Cultivation novels/Manhua when a Cultivator reaches another realm of power they usually don't know or have control of it at the beginning. So those of the lower realm has an opportunity to kill them, that why cultivators go into hiding when training. I think that is what happened to Momoshiki.
@@d.p.6657 Nah I haven't, but seriously consider this bro, Isshiki himself didn't have a strong body to utilize his full power, like does that make sense to you, unless his power wasn't his to begin with? And don't get me wrong the darmawill is a pretty strong dojutsu, but according to the anime, it's weaker than the Jougan so let's wait and see🤷
@@I_am_MeriumTI think you make a really good point here when you ask if it makes sense, if the power was his to begin with. It was probably his idea, via Amado, to split Shibai up between himself and the cyborgs, for whatever reason. Also, Ishiki has been on the planet for a long as Kaguya so it's fair to say he's privy to science, but relies on people like Amado for application. They know all about Shinjutsu, but not so much tech. Then again, Momo spoke of programming language. It's possible Ishiki was like, trying to cheat? To catch up to Momo perhaps.
Momoshiki has stopped time multiple times to the point that it's a regular occurrence. He could definitely just stop time and give boruto a karma. A lot about Momoshiki is still unknown and he could be much stronger than we think
@@isamm_1336 no thats borutos ability momo is using because he knows all of shinjustu so he makes boruto use it without him knowing or else momo wouldve used this against naruto and them
Momoshiki stopping time is truly a spiritual phenomena, basically in that moment he astral projected and placed a karma on Boruto (grabbing his arm makes it obvious) and then got sent to the moon.
I’d really like them to talk about this whole time stopping thing already. Why hasn’t boruto mentioned it to amado, Naruto, and sasuke for an actual conversation about it 😂
@@kamuidimension look like the otsutsuki have the power to control time they have a turtle travel to time they must be have Superior technology that no orochimaru not even Amado can do that
He’s done a great job! I’ve been doing all the editing myself until the last couple videos where now he’s done most of it and I just change whatever I want to change or add and do my videos quality upgrades and music, etc, but he’s done such a good job helping me out lately!
Monos Hilo has a shin jitsu that he doesn’t talk about. It relates to the pure lands. He can almost stop time with it, talk there, and transfers his karma there. He does have knowledge of all shinjitsu.
I’d really like them to talk about this whole time stopping thing already. Why hasn’t boruto mentioned it to amado, Naruto, and sasuke for an actual conversation about it 😂
- It was stated that Kaguya is the 10 tails itself. So with 9 bijuu no longer able to formed cos 9 tails is gone, Sasuke and Naruto no longer being reincarnates of Indra and Ashura, where combining all these would just reawaken Kaguya, now its no longer possible cos some variables are missing. She doesn't need a soul to linger. Madara literally put all the pieces together and became her. - with Kinshiki, he gave his life up so he doesn't have a soul to linger since he willingly gave up life and became one with Momoshiki - with Urashiki, plot wouldn't allow him to give anyone karma since he went to the past where the people during his time of death didnt have Karma. Sasuke wasn't there at his time of death. - Isshikis soul lingered but in the faulty Karma he still had in Code, probably by default. Momoshiki didnt have that. So his soul could linger to his actual killer. Cos its said once a vessel dies, the other with the same karma automatically takes over. So Isshikis didn't have a say so. Momoshiki doesn't have the power to stop time. Time stops only to portray that Momoshiki is within Borutos mind
I think the biggest thing you missed when It came to Obito is that he already had a chakra link established with kakashi for decades shown by their vision overlapping during ren's death. Kakashi had been acting as his vessel and using Obito's chakra for a long time. "He would be his eyes..." He Simply travels through that pre-established channel.
I think that’s worth mentioning, but Kawaki was a vessel with isshikis chakra and dna/ his data for several years so I think the same thing would still apply to Kawaki and isshiki, bringing us back to square one
@@kamuidimension I thought it was weird that isshiki didn’t stick around inside of Boruto like momoshiki, I guess it’s weird how the karma could never manifest when Jigen tried on him but then he dies and Amado can do instantly
Makes sense dude, awesome video!! However, I don’t think Momoshiki had a ninshu moment with Boruto because when Boruto entered that plane Momoshiki was surprised that Boruto can see him, meaning Momoshik is supposed to be dead, Boruto could see him because of the jougan.
Thank you! And yeah that aspect was interesting he was surprised boruto could sense his presence, but boruto didn’t have the jougan out in the manga so we can’t really attribute it to that. Momoshiki was first surprised about boruto sensing him but then said “ahh I see, you have inherited the power of the otsutsuki/byakugan blood” (paraphrasing there), implying that those genetics let boruto sense momoshiki (which the jougan relates to but it might not have directly been the jougan if that makes sense)
@@kamuidimension Yeah we don’t know if we shouldbdepend on the anime or not, but I think we should. Also, can you make a video about why is Sarada immune to shinjitsu and Sasuke isn’t? It’s certainly werid that Sasuke isn’t immune. Do you realy belive the loving otusiki theory?
I dont remember if you've covered this but i think there is a solid possibility isshiki is still alive, in the manga before Isshiki died there was a small panel where before isshiki was crushed it zoomed in on his eye and it looks like he possibly used an ability of some kind from how they drew it. It might be a stretch but isshikis rods never disappeared from the 10 tails (when Ohtsutsuki die the chakra rods evaporate, it happened with momoshikis death) so since the chakra rods were still there in the manga its possible that he could have pulled an emperor Palpatine by using some jutsu which possibly could have merged him with the 10 tails since his chakra rods were still in it. Also i think its possible Amado made up the interaction between isshiki and code, it would definitely be a good plot twist and Amado himself is very sus. I could go on longer about other stuff that i think could happen but at this point we know Amado is not a good guy so anythings on the table in terms of theorizing.
You just made me think of something... You said Kinshiki didn't have a vessel... That WE know of. But it's technically possible that he had one. I doubt he'd come back but it'd be kinda crazy to see a revived Kinshiki interact with Momoshiki through Boruto.
I agree and I included that line for a reason, because it is incredibly easy and possible for them to just write in that kinshiki and Urashiki already had vessels prepared before their missions to revive into, whereas momoshiki and isshiki did not
@@kamuidimension Urashiki is harder because he died in the past so that could interact with vessels in the future in a really weird way that doesn’t quite register with me, Kinshiki is incredibly easy though. Plus Kinshiki had no problem dying to amp Momoshiki which just seems a little out of character for an immortal alien parasite, unless they really are just that dedicated to the higher ranking member and the clan as a whole. Urashiki on the other hand had no intentions on dying and was visibly pissed about the fact that he had been driven into a corner. He didn’t act like someone who had a vessel prepared, but Kinshiki lowkey kinda did. And the fact Urashiki died in the past means that technically when he died, the Urashiki of the present time was still technically alive? So would any Karmas he did place even know that Urashiki died, since Urashiki died before he placed the Karmas? And if he had a vessel prepared prior to part 1, Urashiki would’ve revived while he was still alive and that just doesn’t make any sense whatsoever. There’s a lot of time paradox shit wrong with that scenario.
The ability momshiki is using is what hagoromo did to give naruto and Sasuke the sun and moon seals come on people. It just needs a specific condition to be met same with hagoromo
It's super strange how time freezes during their interactions. The background rock is suspended in air and later on during boruto death scene shikimaru is frozen in place as well. This moments leave plenty of time for a karma seal to be implanted. Only question is it boruto's jogan or momoshiki freezing time.
Well the Jougan has the power to access Otsutsuki Dimensions and he was linked to the Limbo. Thats why they highlighted the eyes to indicate the connection. Jougan passively froze time and connected to that dimension which gave Momoshiki the opportunity. In the Novel they explained that Momoshiki and Boruto are the same. Both a Genius Prodigies, looks for shortcuts to avoid hard work, and both are the Son's of the Leader. Momoshiki's dad is the Otsutsuki King and his older Sister is Kaguya. Just like Hinata and Hanabi the siblings are Special Royalty. Momoshiki has Rinnegan that allows him to shoot jutsu and he knows all Shinjutsu.
Momoshiki actually stopped time the moment before Boruto's Rasengan killed him by using his forehead Rinnegan, then used the fact that their chakras were connected via their Rasengan clash to implant his Karma in Boruto. And yeah, Obito and Isshiki have a lot of similarities when you think of it, at least with regards to how they died. And if you look at Juubito and Isshiki's character designs, they share a lot of common visual language, don't they? Which is especially odd since Juubidara's design has more in common with Hagoromo and Kaguya, which would be expected.
momoshiki cannot stop time ; it was concious level even sasuke saw it ; what stopping time idk ; if he could stop time he would stop time then he would behead naruto and sasuke and the end of show ... what stopping time are you talking dude
@@g_phantom_1252 Even Sasuke said that what Momoshiki did goes beyond simple paralysis, and we saw Eida and Daemon frozen in time in both the anime and manga. The reason he didn't do it during the fight is simple: he didn't know he could until the moment before Boruto killed him.
Personally I want Urashiki to have left karma in the past with some random person before his finale fight after all Jigen was able to stay hidden for too long so I wouldn't have a problem with Urashiki being somewhere another idea I would love to see is that maybe Urashiki had a vessel but had to do the same thing as Momo in order to safe it making that person be in the same situation as Boruto but anyways I just want more red and blue rinnegan powers.
If you remember the monument of the Otsutsukis, there were two broken ones that we couldn't see, maybe these two were killed and devoured by Ishiki and Momoshiki, making them stronger than the others. that's why kaguya ran away and was creating an army, so as not to be killed by them and manage to kill them. It would also explain why Kinshiki sacrificed himself that way, showing that he supports one Otsutsuki devouring all others, perhaps to revert to the form of the original Otsutsuki God….Shibai. Perhaps it is the Otsutsuki instinct to seek divinity that always leads to a kind of reincarnation of Shibai. Otsutsukis use karma to reincarnate and Shibai uses Otsutsukis as karma, it would be interesting that way.
I think full otsutsukis can't linger around in this world after death as momoshiki said after converting rest of karma into boruto's data and making him a full otsutsuki that he is his sole priceless vessel and loss of my vessel will result in soul's instant extinguishment just like isshiki . In addition to being a container for his soul, a vessel also serves as its anchor to the world of living and he can't afford to lose him so they can't come back like obito . Momoshiki is very enigmatic with all his time stoping and future sight ability in soul form which is totally different from how he was in real when he fought Naruto and sauske . Boruto has not used a single momoshiki's abilities even after becoming a complete otsutsuki while kawaki can use all of isshiki's power and boruto's horn looks nothing like momoshiki or the fused momo which inclines me to believe that the entity inside boruto is not Momoshiki .
I think the reason obito was able to leave the purelands was because his chakara existed within kakashi for a very long time, in the same way the otsusuki can move their souls to anyone they have planted karma on after the karma has been bound to them long enough, without having a kiving thing with thier chakara bound to them it would be impossible for their souls to enter the living world, and the reason momoshiki was able to appear before boruto is because like in the anime the chakara for karma was transfered in the clash with the rasengan, aka the anime cannon
I think that’s worth mentioning, but Kawaki was a vessel with isshikis chakra and dna/ his data for several years so I think the same thing would still apply to Kawaki and isshiki, bringing us back to square one. I don’t see a whole lot of difference between the kakashi and obito scenario besides the characters being friends lol
Momo has time stop ability he used it twice once while planting the karma and the other time was when overtaking boruto in the code arc. If you are asking why only boruto can move while time is paused this might be because Momo allows him to ( part of the ability) or because of the jougan. The Reason urashiki didnt place the karma is becaue he absolutely despises humans. His hste for humans far exceeds any Otsutsuki. He couldn't see himself trapped insie a human. This makes perfect sense as urashiki i the most arrogant and cocky Otsutsuki. Thats why he didnt place karma befoe death. No Otsutsuki can place karma after death. Momo paused time before death. This explains why ishiki couldnt place karma after death. Same eith kaguya. If you want to know why momo didnt use time stop aility agaisnt sasuke and naruto is becaus he purposely lost to them. He let boruto kill him. He states that boruto strongly inherited the powers of the Otsutsuki ( the jougan )so he intentionally lost so he can resurrect into boruto.
From my point of view: 4:25 The manga version makes more sense than the anime, since after his death from the shock of the Rasengan, his soul remained in the same place in which he died before being pulled to the place of the Otsusuke souls, and he did not choose Boruto by chance, but because he interacted with him And Momo is in this state, since if he goes to Naruto or Sasuke, he will not be able to plant karma with them because there is no sensory and physical contact with Momo's spiritual state"Regardless of Sasuke because of the Rinnegan, but he couldn't move like Boruto", as the distinctive thing is in Boruto, as Code said, "You are in a strange state that Momoshiki's consciousness appears in the vessel." 7:25 Like you said, ishiki's soul is still there and visited Code since they have a connection, which is karma. His condition is similar to Hagoromo when he left Madara's body, where he embodied himself in the form of chakra, because if he came to him in the spiritual state, Code would not feel him. Minato and Kushina are different. , You can say that they put their awareness of the chakra and seal it inside Naruto, like what Orochimaru does when dividing his body with curse marks, 14:00 Obito did not have his life time expired, but he was killed unlike Ishiki whose life period expired. Also, human souls are flexible, because you can summon their souls with Edotensi, unlike the Otsusuke, who did not invent a technique that summoned their dead souls unless they could not because there might be something eating their souls! . 15:00 I think Kaguya's soul was stuck to the Juyubi
Kinshiki turning into a chakra fruit and Momoshiki eating him and gaining more power, resembles that brain eating guy ability, he eat brains get victims memories and abilities... Very similar...
Kinshiki became a chakra pill not a chakra fruit and I think the pills of stored chakra that momo could make using chakra aren’t chakra fruit because chakra fruit can only be made with a ten tails
I think what you said about chakra pills vs chakra fruits can work, but kinshiki definitely became a chakra fruit lol as that was clearly a big fruit not a pill lol
@@kamuidimension the Jougan May play a role in connecting Boruto and Momoshikis chakra. Boruto attacked Momoshiki with his Jougan. Ring activated, I’m not sure if this was the case in the manga
It would have cool if kinshiki or urashki put a karma seal on one of the next generation ninjas those two had cool abilities I feel like they came and went I wanted to see more of them
Yeah I feel you I hope at least Urashiki comes back. Kinshiki I’m okay with because the thing in that arc was contrasting the father son relationships (although kinshiki was just a father figure not momoshikis actual dad), but for Urashiki I can’t accept it 😂😭
Whatever they wanna do with it, I just want them to talk about black zetsu vs karma at some point just for us Naruto fans to get some closure on that lol. He was her will incarnate correct, and the question is how the two revival techniques compare and if they’re connected or just two completely different means of revival
For better and for worse, this show is the most recent content of "Naruto", so I'm gonna write this here: -The crossover that I've been waiting to see ever since I found "Youjo Senki" is finally being written, hallelujah ! I give you, "Pixie of the Hidden Leaf" ! Featuring Tanya Deguracheff in the universe of Naruto. Witness as the Devil of the Rhine takes over as Team 7's prodigous sensei as a means to add it to her curriculum in order to become Hokage, with Kakashi resuming his missions as a ninja without having to worry about testing for a team. Reasons to read it: -She manages to make Sakura useful right at the begining; -Understanding the true gravity of training kids as child soldiers, she tortures, I mean trains, equally her kids to the limit while taking into account their psychological and emotional struggles, even managing to put some humility, for the moment, into Naruto and Sasuke (do not think it's easy to keep it that way though); -It seems the other teams are gonna share a bit more the spotlight with team 7 (especially team 8, one of the reasons being that Hinata's family has unresolved issues with Tanya); -Her mysterious past in that world; -It seems the other nations might also become more proeminent in their participation; -Haku and Zabuza's better treatment.
that chakra fruit is going to be off the chain…anyone who existed on the planet counts towards it … lets count, that’s kaguya, hagoromo, hamura, kinshiki, momoshiki, isshiki, Jugo, hashirama, etc, oh and shibai’s cells are there too …Daemon, Eida the fruit is gonna be crazy!! oh and all those other androids that were disposed of that were way more powerful than jigen. and orochimaru
My theory on momshikis time stop agility is that it has different uses such as adas eyes, one it can stop time but the user has to go back in the same position they were in before use and it has some requirements to activate and some terrible drawbacksafter use, two it can stop time and the user can effect one person maybe physically or mentally why i said mentally is because it seems the karma can only be put on some who's on the same mental frequency as the user of the shinjutsu i doubt it can affect the physical tho Three it could be a Information gathering ability
I believe code has shibai karma that's why it's white...it's pure and Amado did a projection of isshiki since code worships him and whispering in his hand like he was talking to code not isshiki
Yeah I still think amado made an isshiki projection for the reasons you said plus 7 more lol, and I think codes karma might be a partial shibai karma in that it contains some of his power but it’s still not a normal karma to resurrect shibai, and I’ve made a video about both topics before!
i think boru-shiki could vastly improve sage-mode (shin-mode!!)..and he probably wouldn’t even need to encounter Jugo to do it. i figured out a way to improve sage mode to a vastly superior form (shin-mode!!) which actually makes me think Hashirama may have already been using a variation of it but applying it to a 100% otsutsuki Boru-shiki … he may be able to improve it. with the deep purified energy of shin mode he expands on the limitations of momoshiki’s future sight and has a much deeper insight than a rinnegan (or a level 3 sharingan) and enhances the byakugan in multiple ways also the physical enhancements haha i probably should be keeping this to myself to use on my own character
I think Karma can only be implanted by touch, I think it’s just a major inconsistency in the plot. Maybe Momo using chakra to infuse the karma doesn’t make sense when ishikki should’ve been able to do that with no problems.
It’s entirely possible it’s just inconsistent like I mentioned in the video. I gave the obito example as an extreme example, but there’s a lot of ways to look at that. The reality is they probably didn’t have everything planned in chapter 10 and may have changed their minds on some rules
@@kamuidimension i think it's because of jigen body isshiki soul was getting weak he Didn't hold All this great powers and because his soul was connected with code karma he decaid let his Role to code
….. this video just made me think about how awesome naruto is … no kekkai genkai, just sage mode and kurama .. been a while since i smiled on this dude
1.borutos horn is shibais, wether momoshiki knows it or not. 2. Maybe the soul loses access to the pure lands with Karmic placement, the very first time? And if thats so then the plane that they were on probably did belong to the jougan(as all dojutsu technically would), similar to kamui, limbo, etc.
That’s true however it still falls under all the same questions and issues imo. He still did all that AFTER being blown up by the rasengan in the manga when he was just a soul, but in the anime you could say maybe he stopped time to give karma real quick, but then you gotta ask why he didn’t use that ability any other time during the fight lol before he was about to actually die
Me personally, I simply think it's dojutsu related. Rinnegan users can perceive and interact with chakra which was convenient for Momoshiki at his last moments. It could also be possible that he can stop time _because_ of his Rinnegan so I'm all for it. All Rinnegan users have space-time feats and can use jutsu relating to the manipulation of chakra so perhaps this is why Isshiki couldn't do the same to Kawaki.
Obito was sent into the plane world of chakra the same where hagaromo was hagaromo made rin and obito stay in the chakra plane so he can help kakashi defeat kaguya and its stated
Remember rin helped obito and kakashi to save naruto and sasuke and she did that while waiting in the chakra plane i guess momo didnit because its all apart of someones master plan
I know I commented something like this before but how likely do you think Boruto will learn to use Momoshiki’s Rinnegan and absorb all the divine trees Momoshiki created wouldn’t that give him enough power to get rid of the gap between him and Kawaki possibly even daemon while also giving him plenty of new abilities that fused had and other ones he might even look for the Gedo statue and absorb it too with Momoshiki’s Rinnegan ability thus turning it into a fruit which could give him a new dojutsu like a third eye Rinnegan
Stop overthinking bro, momoshiki is a "god" and Isshiki is just Isshiki with Shibai's darmawill reaped and implanted in his left eye, there's no power gap and for use of the power of the otsusuki, look at Jigen, he's better off with the karma
@@ChangerofWays-Tzeentch Nah, you got it wrong. His karma is a weapon, meaning that Amado rebuilt it using Isshiki's cell, just like with Rida and daemon, where he used Shibai's cell, and they got brand new dojutsu and a drastic boost in power
Tbh borushikis could’ve fit that description potentially but momoshikis horns looked completely different after he ate kinshiki so I don’t think kinshikis influence really affected either of the horns lol, or if it did it didn’t make them look more like kinshikis horns
@Kamui Yep his horns were different, but considering Momo returns to his pure state in spirit, the chance remains. Or maybe they realized the first momo horns were kinda ugly xD
Kaguya can still be revived. If Haguromo can give Six Path Chakra and seals to Naruto and Sasuke, Kaguya can still be revived somehow, especially the fact that her chakra has been spread to all the tailed beasts and all living things with chakra currently on the planet.
Naruto’s parents Chakra have an explanation for being stuck in the living world as they sealed their chakra inside Naruto and obviously without that seal they wouldn’t have been able to be present in Naruto when he needed them. This does not explain how Momos chakra was still present even after death even though I know what you’re saying that logic doesn’t work.
I know minato and kushina specifically had their chakra weaved into Naruto’s seal, but I just used them as an example. The tailed beasts just gave Naruto chakra and it was never explained to have been weaven into kuramas broken seal, they just bumped fists and shared their chakra with Naruto and he kept it for a long time, so momoshiki could’ve just accomplished a similar feat. I just used minato and kushina as the examples because they died whereas the tailed beasts were still alive but anyway that’s where the possibility comes from, examples like that
My problem with your theory is your saying right before momoshiki was defeated he attached some of his chakra onto boruto without touching him, but why didn't he attach chakra onto Sasuke instead? He physically put hands on the real Sasuke before being defeated. I'm assuming momoshiki didn't know about borutos otsutsuki blood until he was defeated, so why wouldn't he put it on Sasuke? Also, why is momoshiki the only 1 who knows how to attach chakra to the real boruto.... before he was defeated but isshiki couldn't figure this out.... you telling me isshiki couldn't have done the exact same thing momoshiki did and place a karma on kawaki the same way you're describing that momoshiki did??? I find this hard to believe. My last bit of evidence... your gonna like this... when Isshiki teleported kawaki to his location by tracking Naruto's chakra signature, isshiki actually grabbed kawaki and did some talk no jutsu to kawaki before Sasuke switched places with him. So if your saying momoshiki could attach chakra and create a karma then why didn't Isshiki do it right then and there when he had a hold of kawaki???? Your argument makes no sense.
@David Os Sasuke being more powerful would have nothing to do with it. Boruto is pretty powerful, he is stronger than naruto was at his age. Also momoshiki doesn't know Sasuke.... he doesn't know his personality or what he believes in, they are all just worthless shinobi to momoshiki. I'm telling you youngin, this ain't a conversation you want to have with me lol.
I’ll start by saying that wasn’t necessarily my top choice just among the top 3, but as for not doing it to sasuke, the point is momoshiki didn’t feel the need to until the last second. He didn’t think he was going to lose the rasengan clash at first, so why try putting a karma on sasuke anyway? He’s too arrogant for that shit, he only did it in the end because he had to. So he wouldn’t have bothered trying this until the last moment when it was over for him and he was going to lose. As for isshiki, similarly, he didn’t think he needed to. He was just trying to implant karma on Kawaki, and he thought he was gonna succeed until the very end when he realized Kawaki tricked him and it was too late. That’s the problem, the otsutuski are all too cocky to consider the fact that they might lose early on leaving them too late to save themselves most of the time
@Kamui wait... your missing 1 point. You said Momoshiki thought he needed to implant the karma on boruto at the last minute without touching him. If this is true then isshiki would have thought the exact samething. For God sakes, isshiki saw the foot that stepped on him as he was killed, he could have done the same thing momoshiki did at this exact moment. You gotta agree that isshiki had more chances to put Karma on kawaki than momoshiki could put on boruto. But somehow momoshiki succeeded... that's my problem with the story.
What i don't understand is that amado said that karma seal can be putted even in a corp aka dead body of a person then why the hell did momoshiki saved boruto instead of leaving him to bie then reincarnate in his dead body
the fight style between momoshiki and borushiki sivastly difference boruishiki untilises flight alot more and is overall just better its pretty obvious that it was somehow shibai that gave boruto the karma
okay but if isshiki try to implant the karama onto a shadow clone and it went poof shouldn't the chakra have gone back to kawaki anyway foreign or not... all chakra is connected so when the clone went poof the chakra should have returned.
the real question is why jigen try many times to find the right vessel and momoshiki gave a karma to boruto in one shot. What makes someone compatible with the karma of the person? Boruto has the power of okisuki but kawaki has no power and the karma still work on him? why?
@@kamuidimension there too many question marks that surround the jougan. why i think so is because boruto used his jougan to have spiritual conversations with garaga
But why was isshiki’s soul destroyed? I know momoshiki said it was extinguished, but why would it even be destroyed entirely and disappeared into nothingness? I ask because isshiki was only dying because his body was breaking down since jigens body was too weak for isshiki’s power, so that doesn’t really make any sense for the soul to just disappear, and if it’s cause of baryon mode then that doesn’t excuse kurama’s soul lingering around for even longer even though baryon mode ran out first and even kurama implied he was going to an afterlife, so why wouldn’t isshiki’s? Again, I know what momoshiki said, but it doesn’t really make sense lol
Ishiki had no power left his body was crumbling so he couldnt compress himself in the form of a karma momoshiki managed to do it because he still had all his strength while he was hit with the rasengan
Why doesn’t Orochimaru revive all the great shinobi of the past who cannot be killed with the Jutsu that Kabuto used in the 4th great ninja war or with Karama to tear apart Kawaki and the rest
Let me be the first to give u some push back since it's fun to me what humans perceive death 💀 to be is different for these aliens 👽 the sage of six paths technically passed away and yet he came back to help Naruto seal his mother away so I wouldn't be surprised if kaguya is still around especially when her and the ten tails are one in the same I wouldn't even be surprised if isshiki comes back 😎
But why was isshiki’s soul destroyed? I know momoshiki said it was extinguished, but why would it even be destroyed entirely and disappeared into nothingness? I ask because isshiki was only dying because his body was breaking down since jigens body was too weak for isshiki’s power, so that doesn’t really make any sense for the soul to just disappear, and if it’s cause of baryon mode then that doesn’t excuse kurama’s soul lingering around for even longer even though baryon mode ran out first and even kurama implied he was going to an afterlife, so why wouldn’t isshiki’s? Again, I know what momoshiki said, but it doesn’t really make sense lol
@@kamuidimension Kurama died because he used up all his chakra for baryon mode, isshiki died because baryon mode drained his life force. Shinobi in naruto die from chakra loss all the time but there soul can still remain (example: Kakashi died from chakra loss yet his soul was talking with his father before he reached the afterlife)
I think momoshiki gave boruto karma when the rasengan clash with him means momoshiki give karma before his death that's why momoshiki soul can talk to boruto because boruto already got the karma before the death of momoshiki
Don’t worry I’m specifically shouting you out as the first person to comment the theory, although I have at least 1 more setup video just talking about momoshiki not using his abilities before getting into only the momoshiki is shibai theory. Turns out I have so much to say on so many parts 😂
@Kamui I feel like I should have asked you to make the video about momoshiki being shibai first but I doubt you would have considered it. When kashy Kage made that video he got almost 100k views on that video. Now he's got sponsors on his videos. That should have been you
@@dorianmouzone7313 I’d have eventually gotten around to it since I like the questions you asked to base your theory on (which is why they’ve turned into like 5 video topics in of themselves), it just wouldn’t have been nearly as quickly as how fast he did it lol 😂
I think momoshiki is shibai, let’s say shibai died while trying to ascend to the higher realm but his soul kept wandering around. When sasuke and boruto and the five kages went to the other realm shibais soul was there in a state of sleep but when boritk activated his joujan shibais soul awaken and he found a way to live. And the reason he was still alive was because he was to powerful and was coming to and end could be the reason we see him with uncompleted horns and does not have momoshikis power form cause I have still not seen borshiki using reinigan In all of his fights
I just noticed that tomoe marks like tomoes on Ofsutsuki bodies they probably show some kind of power level and Ishiki had one different on his chest...I bet that mean't something...
The thing on his chest resembled the wish granting mallet from isshiki’s folklore inspiration, which relates to his supposed power to grant wishes that he promised amado and the others
I thought Urashiki did go into a shared space with young Naruto when he was trying to extract his chakra. I think it’s Boruto’s Hyuga lineage that made him compatible with Karma.
He just went into the kurama mind space that Naruto used to go to in part 1, just like sasuke did in shippuden. That is a good point to mention as idk if it would mean that he’s got a good connection to Naruto but I kinda don’t see it 😂. And borutos genetics probably helped with that for sure
What i am also really curious about is where the fuck is Urashiki's partner? Cause so far, every otsutsuki come in twos just like how the Akatsuki members move in twos. Plus Momoshiki & Kinshiki came to Earth from a different planet, and i don't think they knew about Urashiki's other mission - Which was to punish Toneri, so where is Urashiki's partner or am i overthinking this thing? As a matter of fact, Only Urashiki doesn't have a symbol on the wall.
@@dripgod2132 Urashiki seemed to work solo tbh but also as a trio with momoshiki and kinshiki. Part of me thinks they just didn’t fully think it through with him lol. At first he was part of a trio, then removed for the movie and then added back in the anime, and then they introduced the pairs stuff lol. He could be on the wall on the right side where his partner wasn’t with him because he was dead or became a god potentially, but who knows for sure
@@kamuidimension Almost like they were unsure of what to do with his character, but the moment they mentioned that Otsutsuki's come in pairs, that right there becomes a plot gun that has to be fired at some point, maybe Naruto & Boruto carry some sort of mark/scent that'd make Urashiki's partner know who killed him or perhaps he's not even dead, his death was too weird, like some sort of filler...
@@dripgod2132 yeah they really couldn’t decide lol, but I really really hope they at least mention the guy at some point, no matter how big or small his role, just mention his existence please 😂
I showed the scans confirming kaguyas death like not even 1 minute into the video 😂😭 and momoshiki is resurrecting himself with karma because he died. I understand how you can interpret him as still being alive because his soul clings to the world of the living, but that means you’d have to consider that minato and kushina didn’t die during the nine tails attack and instead died several years later on because their souls were inside Naruto still
At this point 🎯 I'm going to call him yourashiki cause he's not mine they didn't even bother giving him a partner and he couldn't place karma on anyone
You don't know what you're talking about at all. Boruto was the only one that could get the Karma Seal because of his genes being very compatible with Ohtsutsuki. You know Naruto is his dad aka reincarnation of Asura and his mother Hinata the purest eye, direct descendant of Hyuga clan. That is the only reason why and Momoshiki even stated that while he was implanting the Karma. You are completely lost
I’m really not sure why you’re mentioning this. This has absolutely nothing to do with what the video is about. It’s not about why boruto is compatible with momoshikis karma seal, it’s about how momoshiki left it after seemingly dying, which someone isshiki didn’t seem to be able to do (or anyone else for that matter). I’m not lost I just don’t think you really watched the video and what it’s about lol
I think momoshiki stopped the time and then give a karma seal wait a min if he can stop the time then why didn't he use when he is fighting if he uses he will win for sure. (fu@k I give up,)
This may be a stupid question but... can Obito Kamui out of the Pure land again? And apparently souls can still use chakra based abilities. They said in Part one that Chakra is the combo of Physical and Spiritual energies. This was seemly retconed with Kaguya. Hagaromo didn't just create 9 friggin sentient chakra beasts, he created them with a whole Soul, that's impressive. So what I'm getting at is.. is the chakra from the Juubi the same energy as that of the Naruto verses Soul? Also Theory: Himawari is Kaguya's Reincarnation.
Nope I've learned that the Naruto slash boruto fandom can very negative in the comment section so nowadays I specifically direct my comments to the content creators themselves regardless of what subscribers decides to respond to it
@@robertsmiley2207 bro all BIG 3 Fandom are toxic so don't just pull naruto name first...and what is the plothole explain 🤔I think I can explain it to you if you said what it is 😗
Your proving my point 🎯 no matter what I say it is your going to try to turn it into a argument 🤬 I'm older than most of u and I refuse to engage in petty debates over anime and it being multiple toxic fandoms doesn't make it right your either apart of solution or your apart of the problem and from how you responded it's clear were u stand
I have a feeling that Momoshiki will possess code and Boruto will get the sage of six paths sage mode after getting a pure byakugan activating a Tenseigan chakra mode
@@kingslayer1237 😂 I’m assuming kishimoto is going to take out Momoshikis presence and put it in code. Then Boruto will get Hanabi or Hinatas eyes 👀 to get the six paths sage chakra mode that kishimoto drew in some concept art
@@kamuidimension I think I meant plot hole something that was starting for only this reason and they didn’t continue it or keep using it or bring it back
@@MiHaiAlFoNso uhhhh I never said kaguya would have put karma on boruto lol, the question is why she wouldn’t have tried putting karma on Naruto or sasuke or hagoromo and hamura (we know she did black zetsu instead), not why she wouldn’t put it on boruto lol. She was dead before he was born 😂
Is said that any person who kills a God, will inherents Karma. That's why Kara was looking out if Naruto was the vessel of Momoshiki, cause they thought Naruto was the one who killed Momoshiki. About Kinshiki, he died cause of age and "natural" disease. That's why he couldn't give Karma to anyone.
@Alexander Irizarry He said so when he reincarnated. I have only x time of life. Naruto just accelerated the process, and Kawaki, step on him when he was dust. And from where is both in manga and the anime. He ends up dying cause Jigen's body wasn't able to resist Isshiki (so that most likely cause a disease which killed him, he was coughing blood).
Don’t think you mentioned it but if Momo has the ability to stop time it fits as an explanation why his karma is the way it is
That’s what I was thinking cause if you payed attention closely he gives boruto the karma then dies
If momoshiki had time stopping ability then sauske and Naruto or anyone for that matter wouldn’t have lasted a minute. It is way too powerful and even more than isshiki’s dojututsu abilities.
@@xxxswift23 depends just because he has an ability doesn’t mean he can just readily use it whenever there may be conditions that have to be met or something that’s more so a last resort like an izanagi type move he also may not be able to do much while stopping time there’s a bunch of ways to dial it back so it’s not so crazily broken we also haven’t seen all of Isshiki’s abilities so Kawaki could potentially already have a way around it
@@xxxswift23 they can probably just move in Time stop, I mean we literally see sasuke could see through momoshiki's time stop and even move his head slightly in the anime, naruto using his six paths powers should be able to do the same. Even after Sasuke lost the rinnegan he could still sense time stop because of the left over chakra in his eye which proves six paths chakra can at least sense it if not grant movement in it.
@@MrLoops-dq9xtyou’re just saying head cannon
I’m glad you explained this. It makes a lot more sense now how it could’ve happened, although it is very difficult to explain, but you provided multiple plausible answers that could make it make more sense in the future (if everything gets explained later).
Also, I’ve been following your channel for a long time and it brings joy to my heart to see you’re already at 6K!
Keep up the awesome work, man
Yeah it’s pretty hard to explain especially when 2 of the options are just that it’s inconsistent or a manga retcon 😂 but I tried lol, and thank you!!!! I’ve seen you commenting for a while and I appreciate the support 😁
I have a better one, momoshiki is one step closer to becoming like Shibai, while Isshiki was one step closer to becoming like momoshiki, but ripped off Shibai's darmawill and implanted it in his eye socket to make up for the power gap. For starters, momoshiki was calling himself a "god" while Isshiki is just Isshiki. Then we can see momoshiki using Shinjustu by cutting down the chakra tree with just a roar, while Isshiki's roar did nothing. I think the reason why is because Momoshiki consumed Kinshiki, and with it all the chakra fruit he has consumed. Isshiki was mostly using taijust against naruto and sasuke, and with the darmawill, it gave him an edge while momoshiki was basically playing with them, and was basically about to finish the kages with sasuke, the dude was OP, but if it wasn't for boruto with his jougan giving him an edge against momoshiki he would have finished everyone. And when you look at Urashiki, he refers to momo as momoshiki senpai (respect) and when momoshiki was referring to Isshiki, he just said Isshiki, just like with kinshiki. Now you may say but Austin the tableau in the Juubi dimension, this tableau was made by jigen and when you look to the right, people are speculating this is shibai's representation and all know about Shibai, but still Isshiki's symbol was above Shibai's
If you have ever read Cultivation novels/Manhua when a Cultivator reaches another realm of power they usually don't know or have control of it at the beginning. So those of the lower realm has an opportunity to kill them, that why cultivators go into hiding when training. I think that is what happened to Momoshiki.
@@d.p.6657 Nah I haven't, but seriously consider this bro, Isshiki himself didn't have a strong body to utilize his full power, like does that make sense to you, unless his power wasn't his to begin with? And don't get me wrong the darmawill is a pretty strong dojutsu, but according to the anime, it's weaker than the Jougan so let's wait and see🤷
@@I_am_MeriumT I actually agree with you. I recommend "Martial Peak" just Google the name chapter 1. It's pretty good. It's Chinese manga.
@@d.p.6657 Alright bro, thanks. That's help digest my impatience while I wait for August
@@I_am_MeriumTI think you make a really good point here when you ask if it makes sense, if the power was his to begin with. It was probably his idea, via Amado, to split Shibai up between himself and the cyborgs, for whatever reason.
Also, Ishiki has been on the planet for a long as Kaguya so it's fair to say he's privy to science, but relies on people like Amado for application.
They know all about Shinjutsu, but not so much tech. Then again, Momo spoke of programming language. It's possible Ishiki was like, trying to cheat? To catch up to Momo perhaps.
Momoshiki has stopped time multiple times to the point that it's a regular occurrence. He could definitely just stop time and give boruto a karma. A lot about Momoshiki is still unknown and he could be much stronger than we think
Thats borutos ability
@@tonyguwop47 that ability is Momoshikis but boruto can use it since he has the karma. Just like kawaki can use ishikis abilities
LoL well da he's a prince why wouldn't he be 😅
@@javonbates I feel like it's going to get crazy. There's a lot unknown but he is definitely nobility at least I agree with you that he's a prince
@@isamm_1336 no thats borutos ability momo is using because he knows all of shinjustu so he makes boruto use it without him knowing or else momo wouldve used this against naruto and them
Momoshiki stopping time is truly a spiritual phenomena, basically in that moment he astral projected and placed a karma on Boruto (grabbing his arm makes it obvious) and then got sent to the moon.
I’d really like them to talk about this whole time stopping thing already. Why hasn’t boruto mentioned it to amado, Naruto, and sasuke for an actual conversation about it 😂
@@kamuidimension look like the otsutsuki have the power to control time they have a turtle travel to time they must be have
Superior technology that no orochimaru not even Amado can do that
Yo. You just changed my whole outlook of the plot. Also your editor is a monster. Highest praises
He’s done a great job! I’ve been doing all the editing myself until the last couple videos where now he’s done most of it and I just change whatever I want to change or add and do my videos quality upgrades and music, etc, but he’s done such a good job helping me out lately!
Monos Hilo has a shin jitsu that he doesn’t talk about. It relates to the pure lands. He can almost stop time with it, talk there, and transfers his karma there.
He does have knowledge of all shinjitsu.
I’d really like them to talk about this whole time stopping thing already. Why hasn’t boruto mentioned it to amado, Naruto, and sasuke for an actual conversation about it 😂
- It was stated that Kaguya is the 10 tails itself. So with 9 bijuu no longer able to formed cos 9 tails is gone, Sasuke and Naruto no longer being reincarnates of Indra and Ashura, where combining all these would just reawaken Kaguya, now its no longer possible cos some variables are missing. She doesn't need a soul to linger. Madara literally put all the pieces together and became her.
- with Kinshiki, he gave his life up so he doesn't have a soul to linger since he willingly gave up life and became one with Momoshiki
- with Urashiki, plot wouldn't allow him to give anyone karma since he went to the past where the people during his time of death didnt have Karma. Sasuke wasn't there at his time of death.
- Isshikis soul lingered but in the faulty Karma he still had in Code, probably by default. Momoshiki didnt have that. So his soul could linger to his actual killer. Cos its said once a vessel dies, the other with the same karma automatically takes over. So Isshikis didn't have a say so.
Momoshiki doesn't have the power to stop time. Time stops only to portray that Momoshiki is within Borutos mind
I think the biggest thing you missed when It came to Obito is that he already had a chakra link established with kakashi for decades shown by their vision overlapping during ren's death. Kakashi had been acting as his vessel and using Obito's chakra for a long time.
"He would be his eyes..."
He Simply travels through that pre-established channel.
I think that’s worth mentioning, but Kawaki was a vessel with isshikis chakra and dna/ his data for several years so I think the same thing would still apply to Kawaki and isshiki, bringing us back to square one
@@kamuidimension I thought it was weird that isshiki didn’t stick around inside of Boruto like momoshiki, I guess it’s weird how the karma could never manifest when Jigen tried on him but then he dies and Amado can do instantly
Makes sense dude, awesome video!! However, I don’t think Momoshiki had a ninshu moment with Boruto because when Boruto entered that plane Momoshiki was surprised that Boruto can see him, meaning Momoshik is supposed to be dead, Boruto could see him because of the jougan.
Thank you! And yeah that aspect was interesting he was surprised boruto could sense his presence, but boruto didn’t have the jougan out in the manga so we can’t really attribute it to that. Momoshiki was first surprised about boruto sensing him but then said “ahh I see, you have inherited the power of the otsutsuki/byakugan blood” (paraphrasing there), implying that those genetics let boruto sense momoshiki (which the jougan relates to but it might not have directly been the jougan if that makes sense)
@@kamuidimension Yeah we don’t know if we shouldbdepend on the anime or not, but I think we should. Also, can you make a video about why is Sarada immune to shinjitsu and Sasuke isn’t? It’s certainly werid that Sasuke isn’t immune. Do you realy belive the loving otusiki theory?
I dont remember if you've covered this but i think there is a solid possibility isshiki is still alive, in the manga before Isshiki died there was a small panel where before isshiki was crushed it zoomed in on his eye and it looks like he possibly used an ability of some kind from how they drew it. It might be a stretch but isshikis rods never disappeared from the 10 tails (when Ohtsutsuki die the chakra rods evaporate, it happened with momoshikis death) so since the chakra rods were still there in the manga its possible that he could have pulled an emperor Palpatine by using some jutsu which possibly could have merged him with the 10 tails since his chakra rods were still in it. Also i think its possible Amado made up the interaction between isshiki and code, it would definitely be a good plot twist and Amado himself is very sus. I could go on longer about other stuff that i think could happen but at this point we know Amado is not a good guy so anythings on the table in terms of theorizing.
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I appreciate you for always watching and commenting too!
@@kamuidimension 💪🏿
It’s funny how Kaguya is immortal after eating the chakra fruit that wasn’t even fully ripe and the rest aren’t. Sho
Lmao she really got lucky with that earth chakra fruit
@@kamuidimension very lucky!
You just made me think of something... You said Kinshiki didn't have a vessel... That WE know of. But it's technically possible that he had one. I doubt he'd come back but it'd be kinda crazy to see a revived Kinshiki interact with Momoshiki through Boruto.
I agree and I included that line for a reason, because it is incredibly easy and possible for them to just write in that kinshiki and Urashiki already had vessels prepared before their missions to revive into, whereas momoshiki and isshiki did not
@@kamuidimension Urashiki is harder because he died in the past so that could interact with vessels in the future in a really weird way that doesn’t quite register with me, Kinshiki is incredibly easy though. Plus Kinshiki had no problem dying to amp Momoshiki which just seems a little out of character for an immortal alien parasite, unless they really are just that dedicated to the higher ranking member and the clan as a whole. Urashiki on the other hand had no intentions on dying and was visibly pissed about the fact that he had been driven into a corner. He didn’t act like someone who had a vessel prepared, but Kinshiki lowkey kinda did. And the fact Urashiki died in the past means that technically when he died, the Urashiki of the present time was still technically alive? So would any Karmas he did place even know that Urashiki died, since Urashiki died before he placed the Karmas? And if he had a vessel prepared prior to part 1, Urashiki would’ve revived while he was still alive and that just doesn’t make any sense whatsoever. There’s a lot of time paradox shit wrong with that scenario.
The ability momshiki is using is what hagoromo did to give naruto and Sasuke the sun and moon seals come on people.
It just needs a specific condition to be met same with hagoromo
It's super strange how time freezes during their interactions. The background rock is suspended in air and later on during boruto death scene shikimaru is frozen in place as well. This moments leave plenty of time for a karma seal to be implanted. Only question is it boruto's jogan or momoshiki freezing time.
How does Boruto does not have momoshiki's powers that turn me off big time
Well the Jougan has the power to access Otsutsuki Dimensions and he was linked to the Limbo. Thats why they highlighted the eyes to indicate the connection. Jougan passively froze time and connected to that dimension which gave Momoshiki the opportunity. In the Novel they explained that Momoshiki and Boruto are the same. Both a Genius Prodigies, looks for shortcuts to avoid hard work, and both are the Son's of the Leader. Momoshiki's dad is the Otsutsuki King and his older Sister is Kaguya. Just like Hinata and Hanabi the siblings are Special Royalty. Momoshiki has Rinnegan that allows him to shoot jutsu and he knows all Shinjutsu.
Momoshiki actually stopped time the moment before Boruto's Rasengan killed him by using his forehead Rinnegan, then used the fact that their chakras were connected via their Rasengan clash to implant his Karma in Boruto.
And yeah, Obito and Isshiki have a lot of similarities when you think of it, at least with regards to how they died. And if you look at Juubito and Isshiki's character designs, they share a lot of common visual language, don't they? Which is especially odd since Juubidara's design has more in common with Hagoromo and Kaguya, which would be expected.
momoshiki cannot stop time ; it was concious level even sasuke saw it ; what stopping time idk ;
if he could stop time he would stop time then he would behead naruto and sasuke and the end of show ... what stopping time are you talking dude
@@g_phantom_1252 Even Sasuke said that what Momoshiki did goes beyond simple paralysis, and we saw Eida and Daemon frozen in time in both the anime and manga. The reason he didn't do it during the fight is simple: he didn't know he could until the moment before Boruto killed him.
Personally I want Urashiki to have left karma in the past with some random person before his finale fight after all Jigen was able to stay hidden for too long so I wouldn't have a problem with Urashiki being somewhere another idea I would love to see is that maybe Urashiki had a vessel but had to do the same thing as Momo in order to safe it making that person be in the same situation as Boruto but anyways I just want more red and blue rinnegan powers.
Yeah I do like the different color of the rinnisharngan it was cool to see momo have a yellow one
Yeah I’m with you I hope he returns somehow idec how I just want him back and to be redeemed 😂😭
@@demiretrent9685 even Urashiki got the golden one too lol he’s had 5 different dojutsu total 😂
If you remember the monument of the Otsutsukis, there were two broken ones that we couldn't see, maybe these two were killed and devoured by Ishiki and Momoshiki, making them stronger than the others. that's why kaguya ran away and was creating an army, so as not to be killed by them and manage to kill them. It would also explain why Kinshiki sacrificed himself that way, showing that he supports one Otsutsuki devouring all others, perhaps to revert to the form of the original Otsutsuki God….Shibai. Perhaps it is the Otsutsuki instinct to seek divinity that always leads to a kind of reincarnation of Shibai. Otsutsukis use karma to reincarnate and Shibai uses Otsutsukis as karma, it would be interesting that way.
I think full otsutsukis can't linger around in this world after death as momoshiki said after converting rest of karma into boruto's data and making him a full otsutsuki that he is his sole priceless vessel and loss of my vessel will result in soul's instant extinguishment just like isshiki . In addition to being a container for his soul, a vessel also serves as its anchor to the world of living and he can't afford to lose him so they can't come back like obito . Momoshiki is very enigmatic with all his time stoping and future sight ability in soul form which is totally different from how he was in real when he fought Naruto and sauske . Boruto has not used a single momoshiki's abilities even after becoming a complete otsutsuki while kawaki can use all of isshiki's power and boruto's horn looks nothing like momoshiki or the fused momo which inclines me to believe that the entity inside boruto is not Momoshiki .
I think the reason obito was able to leave the purelands was because his chakara existed within kakashi for a very long time, in the same way the otsusuki can move their souls to anyone they have planted karma on after the karma has been bound to them long enough, without having a kiving thing with thier chakara bound to them it would be impossible for their souls to enter the living world, and the reason momoshiki was able to appear before boruto is because like in the anime the chakara for karma was transfered in the clash with the rasengan, aka the anime cannon
I think that’s worth mentioning, but Kawaki was a vessel with isshikis chakra and dna/ his data for several years so I think the same thing would still apply to Kawaki and isshiki, bringing us back to square one. I don’t see a whole lot of difference between the kakashi and obito scenario besides the characters being friends lol
Momo has time stop ability he used it twice once while planting the karma and the other time was when overtaking boruto in the code arc. If you are asking why only boruto can move while time is paused this might be because Momo allows him to ( part of the ability) or because of the jougan. The Reason urashiki didnt place the karma is becaue he absolutely despises humans. His hste for humans far exceeds any Otsutsuki. He couldn't see himself trapped insie a human. This makes perfect sense as urashiki i the most arrogant and cocky Otsutsuki. Thats why he didnt place karma befoe death. No Otsutsuki can place karma after death. Momo paused time before death. This explains why ishiki couldnt place karma after death. Same eith kaguya. If you want to know why momo didnt use time stop aility agaisnt sasuke and naruto is becaus he purposely lost to them. He let boruto kill him. He states that boruto strongly inherited the powers of the Otsutsuki ( the jougan )so he intentionally lost so he can resurrect into boruto.
Glad you mentioned the time stop thing like several other people, it inspired my next video topic 🤣
From my point of view: 4:25 The manga version makes more sense than the anime, since after his death from the shock of the Rasengan, his soul remained in the same place in which he died before being pulled to the place of the Otsusuke souls, and he did not choose Boruto by chance, but because he interacted with him And Momo is in this state, since if he goes to Naruto or Sasuke, he will not be able to plant karma with them because there is no sensory and physical contact with Momo's spiritual state"Regardless of Sasuke because of the Rinnegan, but he couldn't move like Boruto", as the distinctive thing is in Boruto, as Code said, "You are in a strange state that Momoshiki's consciousness appears in the vessel." 7:25 Like you said, ishiki's soul is still there and visited Code since they have a connection, which is karma. His condition is similar to Hagoromo when he left Madara's body, where he embodied himself in the form of chakra, because if he came to him in the spiritual state, Code would not feel him. Minato and Kushina are different. , You can say that they put their awareness of the chakra and seal it inside Naruto, like what Orochimaru does when dividing his body with curse marks, 14:00 Obito did not have his life time expired, but he was killed unlike Ishiki whose life period expired. Also, human souls are flexible, because you can summon their souls with Edotensi, unlike the Otsusuke, who did not invent a technique that summoned their dead souls unless they could not because there might be something eating their souls! . 15:00 I think Kaguya's soul was stuck to the Juyubi
Kinshiki turning into a chakra fruit and Momoshiki eating him and gaining more power, resembles that brain eating guy ability, he eat brains get victims memories and abilities...
Very similar...
Kinshiki became a chakra pill not a chakra fruit and I think the pills of stored chakra that momo could make using chakra aren’t chakra fruit because chakra fruit can only be made with a ten tails
I think what you said about chakra pills vs chakra fruits can work, but kinshiki definitely became a chakra fruit lol as that was clearly a big fruit not a pill lol
I think 💭 Momoshiki simply passed on his Karma seal 🦭 in the spiritual realm since emphasis was placed on his hand 🖐️ grabbing Boruto
For sure; but the question is how he got himself into that situation to even do that, and why isshiki couldn’t replicate the same feat
@@kamuidimension the Jougan May play a role in connecting Boruto and Momoshikis chakra. Boruto attacked Momoshiki with his Jougan. Ring activated, I’m not sure if this was the case in the manga
It would have cool if kinshiki or urashki put a karma seal on one of the next generation ninjas those two had cool abilities I feel like they came and went I wanted to see more of them
Yeah I feel you I hope at least Urashiki comes back. Kinshiki I’m okay with because the thing in that arc was contrasting the father son relationships (although kinshiki was just a father figure not momoshikis actual dad), but for Urashiki I can’t accept it 😂😭
Children of the Prophecy he will mentor a child who will either save the world or destroy it said by Great Toad Sage's . Maybe brouto
I think black zetsu could have been a manifestion of a karma seal! Didn’t he call himself her will?
Whatever they wanna do with it, I just want them to talk about black zetsu vs karma at some point just for us Naruto fans to get some closure on that lol. He was her will incarnate correct, and the question is how the two revival techniques compare and if they’re connected or just two completely different means of revival
@@kamuidimension there are SO many things we need clarification on!!
Momoshiki is the only one to use a healing ability but it also seems like he has the ability to convert chakra and DNA
For better and for worse, this show is the most recent content of "Naruto", so I'm gonna write this here:
-The crossover that I've been waiting to see ever since I found "Youjo Senki" is finally being written, hallelujah ! I give you, "Pixie of the Hidden Leaf" ! Featuring Tanya Deguracheff in the universe of Naruto. Witness as the Devil of the Rhine takes over as Team 7's prodigous sensei as a means to add it to her curriculum in order to become Hokage, with Kakashi resuming his missions as a ninja without having to worry about testing for a team.
Reasons to read it:
-She manages to make Sakura useful right at the begining;
-Understanding the true gravity of training kids as child soldiers, she tortures, I mean trains, equally her kids to the limit while taking into account their psychological and emotional struggles, even managing to put some humility, for the moment, into Naruto and Sasuke (do not think it's easy to keep it that way though);
-It seems the other teams are gonna share a bit more the spotlight with team 7 (especially team 8, one of the reasons being that Hinata's family has unresolved issues with Tanya);
-Her mysterious past in that world;
-It seems the other nations might also become more proeminent in their participation;
-Haku and Zabuza's better treatment.
that chakra fruit is going to be off the chain…anyone who existed on the planet counts towards it … lets count, that’s kaguya, hagoromo, hamura, kinshiki, momoshiki, isshiki, Jugo, hashirama, etc, oh and shibai’s cells are there too …Daemon, Eida the fruit is gonna be crazy!! oh and all those other androids that were disposed of that were way more powerful than jigen. and orochimaru
I don’t really get why everyone counts like isshiki said but he said it so yeah it’ll be so busted 😂
My theory on momshikis time stop agility is that it has different uses such as adas eyes,
one it can stop time but the user has to go back in the same position they were in before use and it has some requirements to activate and some terrible drawbacksafter use,
two it can stop time and the user can effect one person maybe physically or mentally why i said mentally is because it seems the karma can only be put on some who's on the same mental frequency as the user of the shinjutsu i doubt it can affect the physical tho
Three it could be a Information gathering ability
Or it could have been what hagoromo did to give Sasuke and naruto sisx paths powers
I believe code has shibai karma that's why it's white...it's pure and Amado did a projection of isshiki since code worships him and whispering in his hand like he was talking to code not isshiki
Yeah I still think amado made an isshiki projection for the reasons you said plus 7 more lol, and I think codes karma might be a partial shibai karma in that it contains some of his power but it’s still not a normal karma to resurrect shibai, and I’ve made a video about both topics before!
i think boru-shiki could vastly improve sage-mode (shin-mode!!)..and he probably wouldn’t even need to encounter Jugo to do it. i figured out a way to improve sage mode to a vastly superior form (shin-mode!!) which actually makes me think Hashirama may have already been using a variation of it
but applying it to a 100% otsutsuki Boru-shiki … he may be able to improve it.
with the deep purified energy of shin mode he expands on the limitations of momoshiki’s future sight and has a much deeper insight than a rinnegan (or a level 3 sharingan) and enhances the byakugan in multiple ways
also the physical enhancements haha
i probably should be keeping this to myself to use on my own character
I think Karma can only be implanted by touch, I think it’s just a major inconsistency in the plot. Maybe Momo using chakra to infuse the karma doesn’t make sense when ishikki should’ve been able to do that with no problems.
It’s entirely possible it’s just inconsistent like I mentioned in the video. I gave the obito example as an extreme example, but there’s a lot of ways to look at that. The reality is they probably didn’t have everything planned in chapter 10 and may have changed their minds on some rules
@@kamuidimension i think it's because of jigen body isshiki soul was getting weak he
Didn't hold All this great powers and because his soul was connected with code karma he decaid let his Role to code
….. this video just made me think about how awesome naruto is … no kekkai genkai, just sage mode and kurama .. been a while since i smiled on this dude
1.borutos horn is shibais, wether momoshiki knows it or not.
2. Maybe the soul loses access to the pure lands with Karmic placement, the very first time? And if thats so then the plane that they were on probably did belong to the jougan(as all dojutsu technically would), similar to kamui, limbo, etc.
Momoshiki ability to stop time .... thats the explanation. must have done that before the final blow kicked in
That’s true however it still falls under all the same questions and issues imo. He still did all that AFTER being blown up by the rasengan in the manga when he was just a soul, but in the anime you could say maybe he stopped time to give karma real quick, but then you gotta ask why he didn’t use that ability any other time during the fight lol before he was about to actually die
Wait, what was madara doing 17:30
I’m guessing that’s him with the hashirama panties lol? 😂😭
@@kamuidimension 😂😂 hell yeah
yes 5th one is making sense because momoshiki says he know every sinjutsu in manga
Me personally, I simply think it's dojutsu related. Rinnegan users can perceive and interact with chakra which was convenient for Momoshiki at his last moments. It could also be possible that he can stop time _because_ of his Rinnegan so I'm all for it. All Rinnegan users have space-time feats and can use jutsu relating to the manipulation of chakra so perhaps this is why Isshiki couldn't do the same to Kawaki.
i’d hate to say “bad writing”, or they didn’t think about it back then
I mean they probably didn’t lmao 😂
Obito was sent into the plane world of chakra the same where hagaromo was hagaromo made rin and obito stay in the chakra plane so he can help kakashi defeat kaguya and its stated
Remember rin helped obito and kakashi to save naruto and sasuke and she did that while waiting in the chakra plane i guess momo didnit because its all apart of someones master plan
Theory - what if codes Karma is Jashin otutsuki's
The claw marks is jashin power?
I know I commented something like this before but how likely do you think Boruto will learn to use Momoshiki’s Rinnegan and absorb all the divine trees Momoshiki created wouldn’t that give him enough power to get rid of the gap between him and Kawaki possibly even daemon while also giving him plenty of new abilities that fused had and other ones he might even look for the Gedo statue and absorb it too with Momoshiki’s Rinnegan ability thus turning it into a fruit which could give him a new dojutsu like a third eye Rinnegan
I think boruto's right eye will be the Jougan and his left be Momoshiki's Rinnegan.
Stop overthinking bro, momoshiki is a "god" and Isshiki is just Isshiki with Shibai's darmawill reaped and implanted in his left eye, there's no power gap and for use of the power of the otsusuki, look at Jigen, he's better off with the karma
@@d.p.6657 I think he will get a third eye and take Kawaki’s darma wheel eye
@@I_am_MeriumT Kawaki has Isshiki’s darmagon and he still has it after reviving in Jigen it is something he earned through eating enough chakra fruits
@@ChangerofWays-Tzeentch Nah, you got it wrong. His karma is a weapon, meaning that Amado rebuilt it using Isshiki's cell, just like with Rida and daemon, where he used Shibai's cell, and they got brand new dojutsu and a drastic boost in power
Is interested in how the horns of Momoshiki spirit have a shape combining his owns with Kinshiki's.
Tbh borushikis could’ve fit that description potentially but momoshikis horns looked completely different after he ate kinshiki so I don’t think kinshikis influence really affected either of the horns lol, or if it did it didn’t make them look more like kinshikis horns
@Kamui Yep his horns were different, but considering Momo returns to his pure state in spirit, the chance remains.
Or maybe they realized the first momo horns were kinda ugly xD
since sarada eye is a confirmed sun since the redraw does that change any sharigan ability theory
She's getting a different design bro
Nah everything I said before involved the sun anyway lol so the same theories still apply
Kaguya can still be revived. If Haguromo can give Six Path Chakra and seals to Naruto and Sasuke, Kaguya can still be revived somehow, especially the fact that her chakra has been spread to all the tailed beasts and all living things with chakra currently on the planet.
Naruto’s parents Chakra have an explanation for being stuck in the living world as they sealed their chakra inside Naruto and obviously without that seal they wouldn’t have been able to be present in Naruto when he needed them. This does not explain how Momos chakra was still present even after death even though I know what you’re saying that logic doesn’t work.
I know minato and kushina specifically had their chakra weaved into Naruto’s seal, but I just used them as an example. The tailed beasts just gave Naruto chakra and it was never explained to have been weaven into kuramas broken seal, they just bumped fists and shared their chakra with Naruto and he kept it for a long time, so momoshiki could’ve just accomplished a similar feat. I just used minato and kushina as the examples because they died whereas the tailed beasts were still alive but anyway that’s where the possibility comes from, examples like that
My problem with your theory is your saying right before momoshiki was defeated he attached some of his chakra onto boruto without touching him, but why didn't he attach chakra onto Sasuke instead? He physically put hands on the real Sasuke before being defeated. I'm assuming momoshiki didn't know about borutos otsutsuki blood until he was defeated, so why wouldn't he put it on Sasuke? Also, why is momoshiki the only 1 who knows how to attach chakra to the real boruto.... before he was defeated but isshiki couldn't figure this out.... you telling me isshiki couldn't have done the exact same thing momoshiki did and place a karma on kawaki the same way you're describing that momoshiki did??? I find this hard to believe. My last bit of evidence... your gonna like this... when Isshiki teleported kawaki to his location by tracking Naruto's chakra signature, isshiki actually grabbed kawaki and did some talk no jutsu to kawaki before Sasuke switched places with him. So if your saying momoshiki could attach chakra and create a karma then why didn't Isshiki do it right then and there when he had a hold of kawaki???? Your argument makes no sense.
Sasuke is more powerful and would auto himself before ever being a threat to the village it wouldn’t work plus he saw Boruto’s and Naruto’s fate
@David Os Sasuke being more powerful would have nothing to do with it. Boruto is pretty powerful, he is stronger than naruto was at his age. Also momoshiki doesn't know Sasuke.... he doesn't know his personality or what he believes in, they are all just worthless shinobi to momoshiki. I'm telling you youngin, this ain't a conversation you want to have with me lol.
I’ll start by saying that wasn’t necessarily my top choice just among the top 3, but as for not doing it to sasuke, the point is momoshiki didn’t feel the need to until the last second. He didn’t think he was going to lose the rasengan clash at first, so why try putting a karma on sasuke anyway? He’s too arrogant for that shit, he only did it in the end because he had to. So he wouldn’t have bothered trying this until the last moment when it was over for him and he was going to lose. As for isshiki, similarly, he didn’t think he needed to. He was just trying to implant karma on Kawaki, and he thought he was gonna succeed until the very end when he realized Kawaki tricked him and it was too late. That’s the problem, the otsutuski are all too cocky to consider the fact that they might lose early on leaving them too late to save themselves most of the time
@Kamui wait... your missing 1 point. You said Momoshiki thought he needed to implant the karma on boruto at the last minute without touching him. If this is true then isshiki would have thought the exact samething. For God sakes, isshiki saw the foot that stepped on him as he was killed, he could have done the same thing momoshiki did at this exact moment. You gotta agree that isshiki had more chances to put Karma on kawaki than momoshiki could put on boruto. But somehow momoshiki succeeded... that's my problem with the story.
What i don't understand is that amado said that karma seal can be putted even in a corp aka dead body of a person then why the hell did momoshiki saved boruto instead of leaving him to bie then reincarnate in his dead body
btw i have a huge beef with baryon mode … why didn’t it permanently take isshiki’s power and add to naruto?
the fight style between momoshiki and borushiki sivastly difference boruishiki untilises flight alot more and is overall just better its pretty obvious that it was somehow shibai that gave boruto the karma
Momoshiki before death stops time and places Karma on Boruto
couldn’t B hunt down the other cyborgs that were too powerful and turn the into fruits while they are hibernating?
that sukara stray was nasty
Lmao
okay but if isshiki try to implant the karama onto a shadow clone and it went poof shouldn't the chakra have gone back to kawaki anyway foreign or not... all chakra is connected so when the clone went poof the chakra should have returned.
the real question is why jigen try many times to find the right vessel and momoshiki gave a karma to boruto in one shot. What makes someone compatible with the karma of the person? Boruto has the power of okisuki but kawaki has no power and the karma still work on him? why?
borutos jougan probably made momoshikis soul liinger
Maybe, but the question is why?
@@kamuidimension there too many question marks that surround the jougan. why i think so is because boruto used his jougan to have spiritual conversations with garaga
Bro Isshiki Soul is gone
But why was isshiki’s soul destroyed? I know momoshiki said it was extinguished, but why would it even be destroyed entirely and disappeared into nothingness? I ask because isshiki was only dying because his body was breaking down since jigens body was too weak for isshiki’s power, so that doesn’t really make any sense for the soul to just disappear, and if it’s cause of baryon mode then that doesn’t excuse kurama’s soul lingering around for even longer even though baryon mode ran out first and even kurama implied he was going to an afterlife, so why wouldn’t isshiki’s? Again, I know what momoshiki said, but it doesn’t really make sense lol
@@kamuidimension me personally i would never let no one talk to me like that
2:30 is do cool
Borutos hand 🖐️ has the same shape as Momoshikis horns… the plot thickens 🤔
Lmao what 😂😂😂
@@kamuidimension 😂 well I mean the Karma seal looks like Momoshiki, just like how Kawakis karma seal looks like Ishiki.
He told code that his soul will be destroyed so he should eat the chackra fruit
*JUST AS THE BORUTO COMMUNITY WAS GETTING DRY A PORTAL OPENED*.
More like a kamui portal back to earth from the pure land 😂
Ishiki had no power left his body was crumbling so he couldnt compress himself in the form of a karma momoshiki managed to do it because he still had all his strength while he was hit with the rasengan
Why doesn’t Orochimaru revive all the great shinobi of the past who cannot be killed with the Jutsu that Kabuto used in the 4th great ninja war or with Karama to tear apart Kawaki and the rest
Let me be the first to give u some push back since it's fun to me what humans perceive death 💀 to be is different for these aliens 👽 the sage of six paths technically passed away and yet he came back to help Naruto seal his mother away so I wouldn't be surprised if kaguya is still around especially when her and the ten tails are one in the same I wouldn't even be surprised if isshiki comes back 😎
Kaguya is too weak to do anything
hagoromo is sustained by when he learned sage mode and lives on the power of the otherworld. those other otsutsuki are gone
Stop the cap 🧢 so by that logic Naruto will never die and anyone else who becomes a perfect sage 😂🤣😂
@@robertsmiley2207 yeah!
We need a Momoshiki backstory !😭
Yesssssss that would be fire!
Isshiki's soul was destroyed so no he would not be able to leave the after life as he never went there in the first place
But why was isshiki’s soul destroyed? I know momoshiki said it was extinguished, but why would it even be destroyed entirely and disappeared into nothingness? I ask because isshiki was only dying because his body was breaking down since jigens body was too weak for isshiki’s power, so that doesn’t really make any sense for the soul to just disappear, and if it’s cause of baryon mode then that doesn’t excuse kurama’s soul lingering around for even longer even though baryon mode ran out first and even kurama implied he was going to an afterlife, so why wouldn’t isshiki’s? Again, I know what momoshiki said, but it doesn’t really make sense lol
@@kamuidimension Kurama died because he used up all his chakra for baryon mode, isshiki died because baryon mode drained his life force. Shinobi in naruto die from chakra loss all the time but there soul can still remain (example: Kakashi died from chakra loss yet his soul was talking with his father before he reached the afterlife)
@@kamuidimension his soul did linger around … don’t forget the conversation his soul had with code literally discussing it after his death
I think momoshiki gave boruto karma when the rasengan clash with him means momoshiki give karma before his death that's why momoshiki soul can talk to boruto because boruto already got the karma before the death of momoshiki
We still don't know where is Urashiki
I hope he’s alive somehow and ready to return 😂😭
You're a pretty cool dude, dude 😎
Is that the WORLD FAMOUS podcast where the guys Walky while they talky!?!?!?!?
@@kamuidimension Us Walky Talkers really get down to business over here B-)
Im with the last one that shibai gave him karma
And if u look u see that this momoshiki in karma is not the same as the alive one
Kamui 😢 i created a monster. Its gotten to big and now its all around the internet and people arent giving me my credit. Kamui, help me help you.
Don’t worry I’m specifically shouting you out as the first person to comment the theory, although I have at least 1 more setup video just talking about momoshiki not using his abilities before getting into only the momoshiki is shibai theory. Turns out I have so much to say on so many parts 😂
@Kamui I feel like I should have asked you to make the video about momoshiki being shibai first but I doubt you would have considered it. When kashy Kage made that video he got almost 100k views on that video. Now he's got sponsors on his videos. That should have been you
@@dorianmouzone7313 I’d have eventually gotten around to it since I like the questions you asked to base your theory on (which is why they’ve turned into like 5 video topics in of themselves), it just wouldn’t have been nearly as quickly as how fast he did it lol 😂
I think momoshiki is shibai, let’s say shibai died while trying to ascend to the higher realm but his soul kept wandering around. When sasuke and boruto and the five kages went to the other realm shibais soul was there in a state of sleep but when boritk activated his joujan shibais soul awaken and he found a way to live. And the reason he was still alive was because he was to powerful and was coming to and end could be the reason we see him with uncompleted horns and does not have momoshikis power form cause I have still not seen borshiki using reinigan In all of his fights
But we have seen Boruto using momo byakugan to get a glimpse of his future you know?
It's called polt my dude . This whole karma thing was never ever mentioned in Naruto it's something stupid Ikemoto made up.
That’s why I included the Inconsistency option lol, although it was kodachi not ikemoto, ikemoto just draws the story but doesn’t write any of it
I just noticed that tomoe marks like tomoes on Ofsutsuki bodies they probably show some kind of power level and Ishiki had one different on his chest...I bet that mean't something...
Isshiki had the wishing mallet on his chest it’s inspiration from the issun boshi folklore
And isshiki might have 8 paths power who knows 😂
The thing on his chest resembled the wish granting mallet from isshiki’s folklore inspiration, which relates to his supposed power to grant wishes that he promised amado and the others
Yup!
I think Momoshiki implanted a karma when he grabbed Boruto by the neck in the manga.
No that’s a shadow clone
I thought Urashiki did go into a shared space with young Naruto when he was trying to extract his chakra. I think it’s Boruto’s Hyuga lineage that made him compatible with Karma.
He just went into the kurama mind space that Naruto used to go to in part 1, just like sasuke did in shippuden. That is a good point to mention as idk if it would mean that he’s got a good connection to Naruto but I kinda don’t see it 😂. And borutos genetics probably helped with that for sure
What i am also really curious about is where the fuck is Urashiki's partner?
Cause so far, every otsutsuki come in twos just like how the Akatsuki members move in twos.
Plus Momoshiki & Kinshiki came to Earth from a different planet, and i don't think they knew about Urashiki's other mission - Which was to punish Toneri, so where is Urashiki's partner or am i overthinking this thing?
As a matter of fact, Only Urashiki doesn't have a symbol on the wall.
@@dripgod2132 Urashiki seemed to work solo tbh but also as a trio with momoshiki and kinshiki. Part of me thinks they just didn’t fully think it through with him lol. At first he was part of a trio, then removed for the movie and then added back in the anime, and then they introduced the pairs stuff lol. He could be on the wall on the right side where his partner wasn’t with him because he was dead or became a god potentially, but who knows for sure
@@kamuidimension Almost like they were unsure of what to do with his character, but the moment they mentioned that Otsutsuki's come in pairs, that right there becomes a plot gun that has to be fired at some point, maybe Naruto & Boruto carry some sort of mark/scent that'd make Urashiki's partner know who killed him or perhaps he's not even dead, his death was too weird, like some sort of filler...
@@dripgod2132 yeah they really couldn’t decide lol, but I really really hope they at least mention the guy at some point, no matter how big or small his role, just mention his existence please 😂
Wym the dead of 5 otsutsuki only 3 died momo is still alive and kaguya was sealed again
I showed the scans confirming kaguyas death like not even 1 minute into the video 😂😭 and momoshiki is resurrecting himself with karma because he died. I understand how you can interpret him as still being alive because his soul clings to the world of the living, but that means you’d have to consider that minato and kushina didn’t die during the nine tails attack and instead died several years later on because their souls were inside Naruto still
Maybe every outski can’t plant karmas
That’s totally possible but they should say this already lol
At this point 🎯 I'm going to call him yourashiki cause he's not mine they didn't even bother giving him a partner and he couldn't place karma on anyone
All I want is for Urashiki to come back and be redeemed in the manga 😂😭
Lmao I don't he was garbage 🗑️
I think jogan link momo and boruto together 💫
not gonna lie, momoshiki looks kinda like kaguya
I agree I think/hope they’re brother and sister!
@@kamuidimension or maybe stepbro and stepsis😏
@@Teakbumblbee ight bro
You don't know what you're talking about at all. Boruto was the only one that could get the Karma Seal because of his genes being very compatible with Ohtsutsuki. You know Naruto is his dad aka reincarnation of Asura and his mother Hinata the purest eye, direct descendant of Hyuga clan. That is the only reason why and Momoshiki even stated that while he was implanting the Karma. You are completely lost
I’m really not sure why you’re mentioning this. This has absolutely nothing to do with what the video is about. It’s not about why boruto is compatible with momoshikis karma seal, it’s about how momoshiki left it after seemingly dying, which someone isshiki didn’t seem to be able to do (or anyone else for that matter). I’m not lost I just don’t think you really watched the video and what it’s about lol
Kaguya is not Dead she is SEALED
She was confirmed dead VIA that seal in the boruto movie databook
I think momoshiki stopped the time and then give a karma seal
wait a min
if he can stop the time then why didn't he use when he is fighting if he uses he will win for sure. (fu@k I give up,)
Borishiki horns look like shibai
Agreed, my last video is on that exact subject lol
This may be a stupid question but... can Obito Kamui out of the Pure land again? And apparently souls can still use chakra based abilities. They said in Part one that Chakra is the combo of Physical and Spiritual energies. This was seemly retconed with Kaguya.
Hagaromo didn't just create 9 friggin sentient chakra beasts, he created them with a whole Soul, that's impressive.
So what I'm getting at is.. is the chakra from the Juubi the same energy as that of the Naruto verses Soul?
Also Theory: Himawari is Kaguya's Reincarnation.
Boruto absorbed momoshiki > momoshiki placed karma on boruto
Idc Naruto should have karma, wouldn’t be surprised if it happens eventually
Don't burn yourself out trying to fix the writers ✍️ plotholes my friend 😎
What plothole? The ones explained but people ignore em.
Plothole?what plothole can you explain
Nope I've learned that the Naruto slash boruto fandom can very negative in the comment section so nowadays I specifically direct my comments to the content creators themselves regardless of what subscribers decides to respond to it
@@robertsmiley2207 bro all BIG 3 Fandom are toxic so don't just pull naruto name first...and what is the plothole explain 🤔I think I can explain it to you if you said what it is 😗
Your proving my point 🎯 no matter what I say it is your going to try to turn it into a argument 🤬 I'm older than most of u and I refuse to engage in petty debates over anime and it being multiple toxic fandoms doesn't make it right your either apart of solution or your apart of the problem and from how you responded it's clear were u stand
I have a feeling that Momoshiki will possess code and Boruto will get the sage of six paths sage mode after getting a pure byakugan activating a Tenseigan chakra mode
Lol what
@@kingslayer1237 😂 I’m assuming kishimoto is going to take out Momoshikis presence and put it in code. Then Boruto will get Hanabi or Hinatas eyes 👀 to get the six paths sage chakra mode that kishimoto drew in some concept art
Maybe it’s a plot point
I mean I hope it becomes a plot point lol, or did you mean plot hole?
@@kamuidimension I think I meant plot hole something that was starting for only this reason and they didn’t continue it or keep using it or bring it back
Bcs boruto wasn't fucking born when kaguya was unseal ??? whaaaat edit " no really you want say toneri maybe not kaguya right ?? "
I don’t know what you mean this in reference to
@@kamuidimension boruto was born alike 12 years aftet kaguya get seal again , how is pointing problem why kaguya not " karma on boruto "
@@MiHaiAlFoNso uhhhh I never said kaguya would have put karma on boruto lol, the question is why she wouldn’t have tried putting karma on Naruto or sasuke or hagoromo and hamura (we know she did black zetsu instead), not why she wouldn’t put it on boruto lol. She was dead before he was born 😂
@@kamuidimension that i point 🤣🤣 srr me but i was think is fun to ask 🐺
Do susanoo
Do what about susano?
Is said that any person who kills a God, will inherents Karma. That's why Kara was looking out if Naruto was the vessel of Momoshiki, cause they thought Naruto was the one who killed Momoshiki.
About Kinshiki, he died cause of age and "natural" disease. That's why he couldn't give Karma to anyone.
Where are you getting this information about Kinshiki dying of age and natural disease?
@Alexander Irizarry He said so when he reincarnated. I have only x time of life. Naruto just accelerated the process, and Kawaki, step on him when he was dust.
And from where is both in manga and the anime.
He ends up dying cause Jigen's body wasn't able to resist Isshiki (so that most likely cause a disease which killed him, he was coughing blood).