Don’t compare it with Kapil Dev catch. That was the catch of the great Vivian Richard’s. India would have still won if sky would have dropped the catch and gone for six
@@thetoporderpodcasthe touched the rope, the rope was moved back... It wasn't a fair catch...didn't even look at every angle. When I zoomed in on my TV it was clear to see he touched the rope...
@@nishantnimish7825 no you nostalgia merchant (is it even nostalgia? or just elitism, cuz you probably weren't even born then), our chances of winning that would have been like 35% if that went for six. Miller on strike just needed 10 off 5 balls on a flat batting pitch. Not to mention SKY's catch was much harder to pull off than Kapil's.
What a game to end the tournament! So glad this match was played on one of the better pitches. Congrats to both teams for putting on an awesome spectacle for the neutrals.
I do not agree to anyone saying that SA choked in this final as they were in the match till SKY caught Miller’s strike. If the ball had gone for a 6, SA would have won it . Then of course another reason India won was the brilliant death overs bowling by the 3 seamers. So, SA lost due to cricket related reasons and not because they choked.
Yes totally agree - they played without fear the whole game and put up a brilliant showing. I’m sure a few of their batters (QDK & Stubbs especially) will look back at their dismissals and wish they’d made different choices but they’ve had a great tournament and their fans should be proud.
You are right. They negotiated 16th over of Bumrah very well. Klassen got out but was the right thing to do, hit Hardik out of the park. But I really think that Miller choked in the Arshadeep’s over. He left too much for the last over. Atleast one boundary was needed but Miller seemed too cautious. He also didn’t take much of the strike after Klassen’s wicket. It led to a lot of dots which costed them. I believe that even if that catch was not taken, India would have won with 10 of 5 required.
I think the indian score was less by 20 runs in the end although this score was the biggest for a T20 WC final as this pitch was ideal for batting and we saw no deterioration till the last over.
I don't think score was 20 runs short it's just seem so becoz of tactical blunder from rohit seeing Klassen hitting spinners so effectively he should have gone with hardik that axar over would have not lead to that equation & bumrah 2 overs were gold dust.. so no if ind lost it was ind bowling blame..
For a ball coming to you out of the sky which would decide the World Cup and legend status for heroes like Virat and Rohit or miserable failure and devastation for a country of 1.4B and innumerable millions of diaspora, Sky's work on that catch belongs on the Mt Everest of the pantheon of achievements.
This is how an unbiased analysis is done. Very very few people actually go a podcast without offending any country and at the same time finding mistakes that were made by the teams. Kudos to you guys. Love from India❤
Wat a roller coaster of emotions it was for all indian fans, from being depressed to being nervous and being joyful at the end. My heart rate was beating so hard for last 3 overs as watching and hoping that India would prevail. This was truly god’s gift to all Indians as compensation for wat happened on Nov 19th. This one match no indian will forget for a very long time.
Yes what a game! You’ve been so nervous throughout the tournament - I hope you’ve managed to soak up all the enjoyment of this win - congrats to you and all the Indian fans today🏆
@@thetoporderpodcast Yes , it was an emotional moment for all Indians who were watching the match as till the 15th over, all were dreading the thought of going through the loss in another final. That’s why you saw almost all the Indian players and fans crying after the match as it was to release all the emotions bottled up inside since the Nov 19th loss. I sure you saw videos of thousands of indians at home celebrating widely although it was late at night as it was outpouring of joy n relief. It was an emotional moment which is difficult to put in words. 🙏🙏🙏🙏
@@thetoporderpodcast The team now will be under intense pressure to go on from this win to go n win in the next 3 white ball tournaments coming up from 2025-2027. There will be no let up of pressure on the players till the time they retire from playing for India. The all new white ball team are in Zimbabwe to play 3 bilateral series and these young players will know the pressure of playing for India . Good training for them to play under intense pressure from young age. Kohli was criticised by millions for his slow scoring rate although he got his highest tournament score. This is type of pressure they have to cope with in every match they play for India.
Even Ravindra Jadeja took retirement...it was more of a sign of relief than joy when we won..and just to reiterate...South Africa did not choke...my definition of choke is when u do blunder..and opposition is just doing ordinary stuff..but this time...may be luck did not favor them..S Africa will certainly win it in future.. fingers crossed 🤞
The were 4-5 twists in the game 1. when India lost 3 quick wickets, their 3 absolute best batsmen It was momentum SA 2. When India hung by a thread and managed to post a total of 176 in the end, despite the early wicket losses 3. When SA lost 2 early wickets, and the 3rd before 10 as well 4. When Klassen turned the game with his innings 5. Last 3-4 overs, when Bumrah, Arshdeep & Hardik turned the game in their favor Rarely do you get to witness such drama in a single match, and in a world cup final.
Yes so many moments when the game swung back and forth. Am sure that was both stressful and exciting for fans of both teams - absolutely fantastic for the neutrals!
Incredible win! 💙 🏏 👑 Kohli stepped up in the final! Axar and Dube also batted well. And then Bumrah magic + Pandya, Arshdeep, Sky finished amazingly 👏 Unbeaten and now champions 🏆
India won by 5 runs against Pakistan in 2007, by 7 runs against South Africa, what an innings in final by Virat Kohli, Hardik Pandya and Bumrah turned the match, Sky caught the catch of the tournament. Roko legendary retired after winning T20WC glory for India, Indian team will never be same after Rohit, Kohli, Jadeja missing in dugout.
Bringing Axar was a good move. I was hoping he'd be sent when Pant's wicket fell. Axar was full of confidence from his earlier performances in the tournament. At that point India was really in danger and I was hoping Axar would stabilize the innings with his shot making backed by immense confidence. Won't let the scoreboard stay static.
He had a fantastic tournament, that’s for sure. For his sake it’s good that Klaasen over won’t be the thing everyone remembers, because he was such a key performer during the WC.
Jansen knew he had to defend bumrah also knew he had to do that jansen showed his bat like captain america's shield a perfect defense with a big body and bat but still still bumrah found a gap to go in between his bat and pads and dismantle the top of leg stump with a swing like in lord's This is heritage this is the greatest fast bowler of this generation standing tall in the biggest moments
If in the most important match of your life, when it's down to the last few overs, if a little thing like a brief break can so derail you from your lifelong obsession, you probably aren't ready for it nor deserve it.
A brilliant team that fought collectively throughout the world cup. Different players have contributed in every match, in all disciplines. Skill and unity... Just like youngsters in India today! 🇮🇳
Wife assumes a traditional, hetersexual marriage -- people are not necessarily married legally, they might just be living together, and additionally, they might not be straight and might have a husband. Partner is a more inclusive, generic way of saying "significant other".
@@nsn5564 Indian n western culture are miles apart n nowadays western people prefer to have a live in partner rather than get married and have a wife or husband. If the marriage fails, they just walk away n continue their life without hassle of getting divorce.
Good analysis! Loved the channel. Also just want to know what's happening generally in nz cricket. All news related to domestic and other stuff like that.. It would be nice to know since it is a nz RUclips channel
Thanks! Things are a bit quiet on the domestic scene here in NZ at the moment since it is our offseason but we try to get a lot of NZ content on the channel. We’re expecting the central international contracts to be announced this month, so we’ll discuss when that happens - next up for us will probably be England’s home tests, but we will talk generally about this World Cup one more time tomorrow night NZ time.
Yes sticking with players who were struggling a little at the start of the tournament paid off in the end - Kohli and Rohit being two of the best examples!
This retirement decision from T20I's by Rohit and Kohli may well revive the ODI format point being BCCI will here on milk the popularity of the duo for atleast another 2 years or so by ramping up the ODI schedule's.
At the same time, can't lose focus on 2027 ODIs, maybe Kohli and Sharma wants to try to win the championship trophy in 2025 to finish their ODI career. That would be good. Then there is time for 2 years to build it up.
I don't think it was the break. It was premeditated. After absorbing Bumarah over they wanted to resume hitting. And Hardik just tried negative bowling to get dots.
klassen undid all the work he had done before his wicket to hardik pandya, there was no need to hit that shot, he was not able to understand the tactics of india they delayed the play after axar over, he was not able to hold his nerves south africa and nz have to overcome from being these nearly teams, this will hurt him his whole life, both miller and klassen had to calm down each other they knew that the job was not finished such a naive mistake by both batters so close but so far at the end, they threw it away they let fear and pressure get the better of them during that game.
It feels harsh to say Klaasen threw it away, but agree that him and Miller will probably be hurting because they were so close and it was within the grasp of their ability to get SA home.
Great analysis guys. Really looked into the minute details of the game with precise understanding and analysed perfectly... I didn't have the track of time until you guys finised the podcast. Loved it great job... Kudos to you people🙌🙌
Hey team, One just can not realise the importance of this win for the nation pushed through all over in this multipolar world. India's diversity is culminated in common feeling of being a 'Nation' in true sense. Cricket unites people in India. That is cricket's importance in India.
Amazing analysis guys... Loved the way how you analyse the whole game without mentioning some unnecessary things which we are hearing after India's victory. As a Indian I would say thank you. ❤
@@thetoporderpodcast tbh really happy that we win but it's really sad to see some huge cricketing face talking about unnecessary things. Things like how BCCI fixed matches, Sky's catch, Ball tempering and all but you guys didn't mentioned any of these unnecessary and stupid things in your analysis.... I also feel sad for SA lose if it was another country that was playing final with SA I would have definitely supported them because we Indians know this pain very well. We were living in this pain from 2015 ODI WC..... Thanks for your reply... You've gained one subscriber... Love your content... Keeping making content like this and I will surely support you guys in anyway I can. ❤️
You said Smithy was on comm for the SKY catch. I thought he had parted ways with Sky Sports last year. Where is he working now? SENZ? I still remember him at the end of the 2019 OD WC, the twin tie. It was special...
@@thetoporderpodcast Thanks. I only heard the drummed down TMS version of streaming audio, by way of ABC Australia. And as yet another example of reverse whatever, I found a 20 min clip of the last 5 overs just now! Amazing how all these 'rights' issues end up being unnecessarily wrong. All the pirated posts to YT I saw were taken down PDQ by YT, all with Hindi comm. Nice podcast, first listen today. Smithy used to have a weekly half-hour (seasonal?) podcast with Mike Hesson a few years back that I tuned in to. I have found a good replacement, thanks!
Yeah I think you can get Mornings with Ian Smith (his radio show) as a podcast, but it’s not all cricket now. Glad we can step into his big boots for you!
@@thetoporderpodcast No man. I am big fan of cricket and also an indian. I never watched full podcast on cricket in our language but i watch yours your analysis is neutral
Kuldeep should've been either benched or Dube should've taken one or two early overs, that axar over almost cost them the match, Not to mention they didn't used hardik for total four overs
Yesterday itself the South African fans , UK n from our loving neighbour were in unison in calling the catch as illegal as they claimed the boundary rope was moved from it’s position. With around 30 cameras in the stadium, none could pick up the moment the boundary rope was moved by Jay Shah the BCCI secretary but thousands at home around the world saw it clearly.
@@thetoporderpodcast In a few YT channels from those places which talked about the match after it was over. As Jarod Kimber said, why bother wat they say, just ignore them.
Look at the pressure Indian players are in, Gautam Gambhir set a condition for the CAC, saying if - Virat Kohli, Rohit Sharma, Ravindra Jadeja, and Mohammed Shami don't perform well in the upcoming 2025 Champions Trophy, they should be dropped.
GG is right btw, Jadeja has been a burden in ODI national team, he plays well in IPL but not ODI, he should be limited to test and India should try to build newer candidates for all rounder position. The last time he actually put an effort in ODI is during 2019 semis.
SA have never choked since the 99 WC semi final. Their problem has almost always been their weak lower order. They will fix it and Markram will win a WC for SA before he is done.
Yes I think that lower order has been an under discussed part of the conversation around the final. Once the Klaasen/Miller partnership was broken that was the end of their recognised batters, even if Jansen, Maharaj and Rabada have played handy knocks in the past.
It's also worth noting that when India batted the spinners were difficult to play with some turn on offer but as the game progressed the pitch hit better to bat on and the Indian spinners paid the price.
Yes we didn’t discuss it much because of all the other storylines but those SA spinners made it very challenging. Thought it was an excellent pitch for a final.
Sky's catch was incredible. A legendary moment of Indian cricket, along with Kapil Dev's 1983 catch.
Absolutely brilliant in such a big moment
Don’t compare it with Kapil Dev catch. That was the catch of the great Vivian Richard’s. India would have still won if sky would have dropped the catch and gone for six
@@thetoporderpodcasthe touched the rope, the rope was moved back... It wasn't a fair catch...didn't even look at every angle. When I zoomed in on my TV it was clear to see he touched the rope...
@omkargurav9538 yes you are right I understand your point
@@nishantnimish7825 no you nostalgia merchant (is it even nostalgia? or just elitism, cuz you probably weren't even born then), our chances of winning that would have been like 35% if that went for six. Miller on strike just needed 10 off 5 balls on a flat batting pitch. Not to mention SKY's catch was much harder to pull off than Kapil's.
What a game to end the tournament! So glad this match was played on one of the better pitches. Congrats to both teams for putting on an awesome spectacle for the neutrals.
Feel for South Africa, but yes an awesome watch for us neutrals!
I do not agree to anyone saying that SA choked in this final as they were in the match till SKY caught Miller’s strike.
If the ball had gone for a 6, SA would have won it .
Then of course another reason India won was the brilliant death overs bowling by the 3 seamers.
So, SA lost due to cricket related reasons and not because they choked.
Yes totally agree - they played without fear the whole game and put up a brilliant showing. I’m sure a few of their batters (QDK & Stubbs especially) will look back at their dismissals and wish they’d made different choices but they’ve had a great tournament and their fans should be proud.
You are right. They negotiated 16th over of Bumrah very well. Klassen got out but was the right thing to do, hit Hardik out of the park. But I really think that Miller choked in the Arshadeep’s over. He left too much for the last over. Atleast one boundary was needed but Miller seemed too cautious. He also didn’t take much of the strike after Klassen’s wicket. It led to a lot of dots which costed them. I believe that even if that catch was not taken, India would have won with 10 of 5 required.
@@yogeshrajoriya3092 It is a competition between bat and ball. As Markam said the baller is allowed to ball well too.
Still 30 runs to win in 30 balls with 6 wickets intact, it is your game to lose.You win 9/10 in a T20 game from this situation.
I think the indian score was less by 20 runs in the end although this score was the biggest for a T20 WC final as this pitch was ideal for batting and we saw no deterioration till the last over.
^^WORD^^. This was a min 200 pitch
I don't think score was 20 runs short it's just seem so becoz of tactical blunder from rohit seeing Klassen hitting spinners so effectively he should have gone with hardik that axar over would have not lead to that equation & bumrah 2 overs were gold dust.. so no if ind lost it was ind bowling blame..
It wasn't a 200 pitch the moment India lost 3 early wickets.
For a ball coming to you out of the sky which would decide the World Cup and legend status for heroes like Virat and Rohit or miserable failure and devastation for a country of 1.4B and innumerable millions of diaspora, Sky's work on that catch belongs on the Mt Everest of the pantheon of achievements.
Very well said 🙏 .. it’s just surreal unbelievable and once in a lifetime moment.
Arguably one of the best Cricket analysts. Pure Gentlemen , never disrespectful towards any team. Wonderful 🤗
Thanks so much for tuning in and for these lovely words👍
This is how an unbiased analysis is done. Very very few people actually go a podcast without offending any country and at the same time finding mistakes that were made by the teams. Kudos to you guys. Love from India❤
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Wat a roller coaster of emotions it was for all indian fans, from being depressed to being nervous and being joyful at the end.
My heart rate was beating so hard for last 3 overs as watching and hoping that India would prevail.
This was truly god’s gift to all Indians as compensation for wat happened on Nov 19th.
This one match no indian will forget for a very long time.
Yes what a game! You’ve been so nervous throughout the tournament - I hope you’ve managed to soak up all the enjoyment of this win - congrats to you and all the Indian fans today🏆
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Yes , it was an emotional moment for all Indians who were watching the match as till the 15th over, all were dreading the thought of going through the loss in another final.
That’s why you saw almost all the Indian players and fans crying after the match as it was to release all the emotions bottled up inside since the Nov 19th loss.
I sure you saw videos of thousands of indians at home celebrating widely although it was late at night as it was outpouring of joy n relief.
It was an emotional moment which is difficult to put in words.
🙏🙏🙏🙏
A special day for all of you - they’ve been a great side for a long time.
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The team now will be under intense pressure to go on from this win to go n win in the next 3 white ball tournaments coming up from 2025-2027.
There will be no let up of pressure on the players till the time they retire from playing for India.
The all new white ball team are in Zimbabwe to play 3 bilateral series and these young players will know the pressure of playing for India .
Good training for them to play under intense pressure from young age.
Kohli was criticised by millions for his slow scoring rate although he got his highest tournament score.
This is type of pressure they have to cope with in every match they play for India.
Just to be clear, SA did not choke, not at all. The brilliance of Bumrah and an exceptional catch by Sky made the u-turn. Huge respect for SA team.
We agree - great performance from both sides to put on a brilliant final.
Even Ravindra Jadeja took retirement...it was more of a sign of relief than joy when we won..and just to reiterate...South Africa did not choke...my definition of choke is when u do blunder..and opposition is just doing ordinary stuff..but this time...may be luck did not favor them..S Africa will certainly win it in future.. fingers crossed 🤞
Agree - South Africa put together an excellent World Cup and unfortunately for them India did the same.
The were 4-5 twists in the game
1. when India lost 3 quick wickets, their 3 absolute best batsmen
It was momentum SA
2. When India hung by a thread and managed to post a total of 176 in the end, despite the early wicket losses
3. When SA lost 2 early wickets, and the 3rd before 10 as well
4. When Klassen turned the game with his innings
5. Last 3-4 overs, when Bumrah, Arshdeep & Hardik turned the game in their favor
Rarely do you get to witness such drama in a single match, and in a world cup final.
Yes so many moments when the game swung back and forth. Am sure that was both stressful and exciting for fans of both teams - absolutely fantastic for the neutrals!
Incredible win! 💙 🏏
👑 Kohli stepped up in the final!
Axar and Dube also batted well.
And then Bumrah magic + Pandya, Arshdeep, Sky finished amazingly 👏
Unbeaten and now champions 🏆
Yes many different players stepped up at different times. Fantastic effort.
Subbed . Great podcast my first video of your channel.
Welcome aboard - thanks so much for the comment🏏👍
India won by 5 runs against Pakistan in 2007, by 7 runs against South Africa, what an innings in final by Virat Kohli, Hardik Pandya and Bumrah turned the match, Sky caught the catch of the tournament. Roko legendary retired after winning T20WC glory for India, Indian team will never be same after Rohit, Kohli, Jadeja missing in dugout.
So many special performances - hope you enjoy soaking it in over the next few days
Bringing Axar was a good move. I was hoping he'd be sent when Pant's wicket fell. Axar was full of confidence from his earlier performances in the tournament. At that point India was really in danger and I was hoping Axar would stabilize the innings with his shot making backed by immense confidence. Won't let the scoreboard stay static.
He had a fantastic tournament, that’s for sure. For his sake it’s good that Klaasen over won’t be the thing everyone remembers, because he was such a key performer during the WC.
Jansen knew he had to defend bumrah also knew he had to do that jansen showed his bat like captain america's shield a perfect defense with a big body and bat but still still bumrah found a gap to go in between his bat and pads and dismantle the top of leg stump with a swing like in lord's
This is heritage this is the greatest fast bowler of this generation standing tall in the biggest moments
Bumrah is such a joy to watch, even for us as neutrals. Incredible skill and also his ability to out-think the opposition is so impressive.
Excellent and balanced post match analysis. Subscribed!
Thanks! Really appreciate the kind words👍🏏
What a match. Worthy of a final
Absolutely brilliant
Watched Talksport Cricket, Sky Cricket, Final Podcast, Grade Cricketer, Sports Tak. This is by far the best analysis. Brilliant.
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SA has won a ICC trophy in 1998..
Yes good point - slipped up on the wording there.
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Keep podcast about cricket 🏏 Good luck
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If in the most important match of your life, when it's down to the last few overs, if a little thing like a brief break can so derail you from your lifelong obsession, you probably aren't ready for it nor deserve it.
Maybe, but you also hear many players talk about being in the zone, so anytime that is broken presents an opportunity.
@@thetoporderpodcast So imagine how the rain delays affected the batting...
the guy on the left (sorry my first time here so don't know his name) resembles Dale Steyn!
Not the first time he’s been told that, actually - quite the compliment!
Great analysis 👍. Keep going ❤
Thank you! Shame the World Cup is over, but plenty more cricket (and cricket chat) where that came from!
great review guys😊
What a catch sky is no limit
Incredible!
Thanks for the coverage guys . Appreciate it . Looking forward to future content
Thanks for taking the time to say so - really appreciate the kind words.
A brilliant team that fought collectively throughout the world cup. Different players have contributed in every match, in all disciplines. Skill and unity... Just like youngsters in India today! 🇮🇳
Yes a real team effort - super impressive campaign from India.
Why do they say partner instead of wife? Do they think of it like a partnership in cricket?
Haha always thinking about cricket 😀
Wife assumes a traditional, hetersexual marriage -- people are not necessarily married legally, they might just be living together, and additionally, they might not be straight and might have a husband. Partner is a more inclusive, generic way of saying "significant other".
@@nsn5564 nonsense. just decide who's the wife/girlfriend/bitch
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Indian n western culture are miles apart n nowadays western people prefer to have a live in partner rather than get married and have a wife or husband.
If the marriage fails, they just walk away n continue their life without hassle of getting divorce.
Maybe his partner is a dude.
Good discussion guys
Thanks! Appreciate you taking the time to comment 👍
Does Baldy think Jansen looks like Jonathan Rhys Meyers? Probably not as similar as du Plessis' similarity to Ian Higgins from The Grade Cricketer
Haha I’d say he’d take that as a compliment! Lookalikes are all around us 😀
Good analysis! Loved the channel. Also just want to know what's happening generally in nz cricket. All news related to domestic and other stuff like that.. It would be nice to know since it is a nz RUclips channel
Thanks! Things are a bit quiet on the domestic scene here in NZ at the moment since it is our offseason but we try to get a lot of NZ content on the channel. We’re expecting the central international contracts to be announced this month, so we’ll discuss when that happens - next up for us will probably be England’s home tests, but we will talk generally about this World Cup one more time tomorrow night NZ time.
India persisted with the same 11 after the USA games inspite of inconsistent performance of some players.
Yes sticking with players who were struggling a little at the start of the tournament paid off in the end - Kohli and Rohit being two of the best examples!
Virat Runs Till The Semi - 75
Virat Runs In The Final - 76
Wow is that right? Great stat.
I clicked because of the thumbnail picture. Only.
And then stayed for the sharp analysis I’m sure 😀
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Jesus
South Africa played a brilliant game. At one point they had all the promises of a win. It was just unfortunate they lost.
Totally. Heartbreaking one for the South African fans but they definitely played their part in making that final a brilliant game.
My anxiety level for last 3 over was so high.
Yes very exciting for us neutrals but incredibly stressful for Indian and South African fans I’m sure!
This retirement decision from T20I's by Rohit and Kohli may well revive the ODI format point being BCCI will here on milk the popularity of the duo for atleast another 2 years or so by ramping up the ODI schedule's.
No bro atleast 6 months schedule is already scheduled
At the same time, can't lose focus on 2027 ODIs, maybe Kohli and Sharma wants to try to win the championship trophy in 2025 to finish their ODI career. That would be good. Then there is time for 2 years to build it up.
Yes really interesting to see how much longer they keep playing the other formats.
I don't think it was the break. It was premeditated. After absorbing Bumarah over they wanted to resume hitting. And Hardik just tried negative bowling to get dots.
Yes that Bumrah over put the brakes on and they found it hard to get going again.
klassen undid all the work he had done before his wicket to hardik pandya, there was no need to hit that shot, he was not able to understand the tactics of india they delayed the play after axar over, he was not able to hold his nerves south africa and nz have to overcome from being these nearly teams, this will hurt him his whole life, both miller and klassen had to calm down each other they knew that the job was not finished such a naive mistake by both batters so close but so far at the end, they threw it away they let fear and pressure get the better of them during that game.
It feels harsh to say Klaasen threw it away, but agree that him and Miller will probably be hurting because they were so close and it was within the grasp of their ability to get SA home.
That Bumrah effect was the difference.
Such an incredible bowler. What a tournament he had.
Guys the 2024 T20 World Cup is over and India has won it. We celebrated for one full day. Now let’s move on.
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Without kohli india was down him standing gave axar the freedom to go for it
Yes his innings allowed the others to hit out. Crucial!
Very good analysis 👍
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Great to have you onboard 👍
Great analysis guys. Really looked into the minute details of the game with precise understanding and analysed perfectly... I didn't have the track of time until you guys finised the podcast. Loved it great job... Kudos to you people🙌🙌
Lost in the moment - what awesome feedback. Thanks heaps for sharing 👍
Hey team,
One just can not realise the importance of this win for the nation pushed through all over in this multipolar world. India's diversity is culminated in common feeling of being a 'Nation' in true sense. Cricket unites people in India. That is cricket's importance in India.
Awesome - sport is so fantastic how it can have you hugging and high-fiving complete strangers. Special times!
The dudes nose whistle throughout the entire video was doing my head in. Fought through the pain good discussion lads.
😀 Glad we were interesting enough to keep you hanging in there.
Incredible podcast
Thanks!
"The tears even fell from the sky (raining) while they all celebrating" .........what a great heart melting line mate ❤😢
It did seem like a movie scene when that happened. Fairytale ending for so many people I guess the universe was listening!
30 ball 30 run Miller on strike 😊well done jaspreet, arsh Deep
Yes it was a very impressive performance from those seamers to turn things around from that position 👏
nice podcast and analysis. I just discovered it today as i am watching different takes on the match. Gluck!
Thanks! Great that you found us - what an amazing game to discuss🏏🏆
Amazing analysis guys... Loved the way how you analyse the whole game without mentioning some unnecessary things which we are hearing after India's victory. As a Indian I would say thank you. ❤
Glad you enjoyed the conversation and thanks for the kind words - a really fun game to talk about👍
@@thetoporderpodcast tbh really happy that we win but it's really sad to see some huge cricketing face talking about unnecessary things. Things like how BCCI fixed matches, Sky's catch, Ball tempering and all but you guys didn't mentioned any of these unnecessary and stupid things in your analysis.... I also feel sad for SA lose if it was another country that was playing final with SA I would have definitely supported them because we Indians know this pain very well. We were living in this pain from 2015 ODI WC..... Thanks for your reply... You've gained one subscriber... Love your content... Keeping making content like this and I will surely support you guys in anyway I can. ❤️
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You said Smithy was on comm for the SKY catch. I thought he had parted ways with Sky Sports last year. Where is he working now? SENZ? I still remember him at the end of the 2019 OD WC, the twin tie. It was special...
What a great commentary career he’s had. And yes he’s with SENZ now but seems to pick up tv gigs around the world for various tournaments or series.
It was covered on Sky in NZ but commentary I believe is an ICC production a minor nuance but he certainly had the microphone
@@thetoporderpodcast Thanks. I only heard the drummed down TMS version of streaming audio, by way of ABC Australia. And as yet another example of reverse whatever, I found a 20 min clip of the last 5 overs just now! Amazing how all these 'rights' issues end up being unnecessarily wrong. All the pirated posts to YT I saw were taken down PDQ by YT, all with Hindi comm.
Nice podcast, first listen today. Smithy used to have a weekly half-hour (seasonal?) podcast with Mike Hesson a few years back that I tuned in to. I have found a good replacement, thanks!
Yeah I think you can get Mornings with Ian Smith (his radio show) as a podcast, but it’s not all cricket now. Glad we can step into his big boots for you!
Best analysis on the final. Pure joy to watch you guys
You’re so kind!
@@thetoporderpodcast No man. I am big fan of cricket and also an indian. I never watched full podcast on cricket in our language but i watch yours your analysis is neutral
Should India have played with another fast bowler?
Maybe in hindsight Siraj over Jadeja was the play, but they would have been nervous at 34-3 without Jadeja in the batting lineup.
Kuldeep should've been either benched or Dube should've taken one or two early overs, that axar over almost cost them the match, Not to mention they didn't used hardik for total four overs
Yesterday itself the South African fans , UK n from our loving neighbour were in unison in calling the catch as illegal as they claimed the boundary rope was moved from it’s position.
With around 30 cameras in the stadium, none could pick up the moment the boundary rope was moved by Jay Shah the BCCI secretary but thousands at home around the world saw it clearly.
They can keep crying and we will drink to their salty tears🍻🍻🍻
Haven’t seen those comments - brilliant from SKY to stay calm in that moment.
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In a few YT channels from those places which talked about the match after it was over.
As Jarod Kimber said, why bother wat they say, just ignore them.
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Jarod Kimber said it perfectly, “ why bother wat they say, best to just ignore them “.
David miller was not out . Proteas shine . All you know is chokers grow up .
Excellent tournament from the Proteas - wonder if they’ll push on now that they’ve broken through the semifinal barrier at World Cups.
Lol he was out unfortunately
Look at the pressure Indian players are in,
Gautam Gambhir set a condition for the CAC, saying if - Virat Kohli, Rohit Sharma, Ravindra Jadeja, and Mohammed Shami don't perform well in the upcoming 2025 Champions Trophy, they should be dropped.
I think they will retire either way after champions trophy next year.
@@WaveRider1989seriously kohli will retire from odi format 😂😂 no one is replacing him in that..
Yes it’ll be fascinating to see Gambhir put his stamp on this side, especially after a World Cup win.
GG is right btw, Jadeja has been a burden in ODI national team, he plays well in IPL but not ODI, he should be limited to test and India should try to build newer candidates for all rounder position. The last time he actually put an effort in ODI is during 2019 semis.
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I agree with you on this. Time to find another long term prospect who can play till 2027 ODI WC
SA have never choked since the 99 WC semi final. Their problem has almost always been their weak lower order. They will fix it and Markram will win a WC for SA before he is done.
Yes I think that lower order has been an under discussed part of the conversation around the final. Once the Klaasen/Miller partnership was broken that was the end of their recognised batters, even if Jansen, Maharaj and Rabada have played handy knocks in the past.
SKY’s match was very good, so good the Pakistanis think it was not a catch at all!
Haven’t seen much of that chat - amazing he was able to stay so balanced and calm in that moment. Looked like a great catch to us.
It's also worth noting that when India batted the spinners were difficult to play with some turn on offer but as the game progressed the pitch hit better to bat on and the Indian spinners paid the price.
Yes we didn’t discuss it much because of all the other storylines but those SA spinners made it very challenging. Thought it was an excellent pitch for a final.
Great discussion
Thanks!